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Good evening. Welcome to North West Tonight with Rachael Hodges and

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Roger Johnson. Our top story: Can there be closure for Winnie? 48

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years after her son went missing, will Ian Brady finally reveal where

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Keith Bennett's body is? He has got a venomous contempt for the

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authorities. I think we will see a twist. In the last hour that twist

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- the letter for Winnie was given back to Brady by the woman asked to

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take it to the outside world. We'll talk live to Winne Johnson's

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solicitor. Or a hundred years since they were executed, Pendle prepares

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a weekend commemoration for the victims of the most the Tories

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which trials in British history. -- notorious witch trials. Mobbed

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wherever she goes - Olympic medallist Beth Tweddle talks about

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life after bronze. And preparing for the feast after the fast -

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Muslims across the region count 48 years after her son went missing,

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will Winnie Johnson finally find out where her schoolboy son Keith

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is buried? Police tonight are investigating whether Moors

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murderer Ian Brady passed a letter to his mental health advocate,

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Jackie Powell, saying where the body was. She claimed it was to be

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given to Winnie Johnson after his death - but tonight she says she

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handed the letter back to Brady. Tonight we will be coming live from

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Ashworth psychiatric hospital on Merseyside, where Brady's cell has

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been searched. But first we'll go to Saddleworth Moor, still

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inextricably linked with the crimes committed there half a century ago,

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and Dave Guest. Yes, and these windswept and

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forlorn looking soft toys have been left ear in memory of Keith Bennett.

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-- here. Winnie Johnson visited this place many times. Now she is

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too ill. She has clung to the hope that one day she would discover

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where out there her son alive. She wanted to lay him to rest properly.

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The story of the Moors murders is one filled with twists and turns

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over the years. Today, yet another twist with news of that the bulls

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that letter -- of that so Balls letter. Police are treating this

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with caution. This could just be another mind game by this callous

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killer. The images are in grainy black and

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white. The memories are still crystal clear. Five youngsters,

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tortured and murdered by an evil pair whose names will be forever

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etched in Bremen -- British criminal history. Keith Bennett is

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the only victim whose body has never been found. It still lies out

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there somewhere. 25 years ago, Pauline Reade's body was also still

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out there. Then a Myra Hindley returns to the moors to help police

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to find it. At the time she was extremely co-operative. She did try

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our best to assist us. Hindley did find -- help them to find Pauline's

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body. Ian Brady went to the moors that same year but he was less co-

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operative. It was a day out for him. He did not assist us. For Winnie

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Johnson, the torture has gone on for nearly 50 years. Now Brady has

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held out the possibility of hope. And mental health advocate working

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within told a TV interviewer that Brady had handed her a sealed

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envelope addressed to Winnie Johnson and market not to be open

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until after his death. Jackie Powell says she told her that

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within that was the means of her possibly being able to rest. The

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interviewer asked what he meant by that. She said there was something

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within the letter that may help to find her son. Detectives have

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seized documents from her home and she was arrested on suspicion of

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preventing the burial. Anybody who knows these more as Knowles they

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are living thing. The road has altered slightly. The lay-bys have

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changed. And Winnie Johnson's solicitor scares the -- scares --

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shares that kept us in. We're not convinced. One of -- one would not

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wish to raise expectations at this stage until the police have

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completed their investigation. now, the moors will hold on to

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their grim secret. Tonight the question remains, does

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the latter exist? Is it back in the possession of the and Brady?

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Attention switching back from the moors to Ashworth hospital.

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Well we can go live now to Ashworth Hospital on Merseyside, and Nina

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Warhurst. The hospital treats patients with mental health issues.

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What would Jackie Powell's role had been? Anybody with mental health

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problems as serious as Ian Brady's is entitled to a mental health

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advocate. It is their role to advise the patients on their rights

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under the Human Rights Act. They are not allowed to withhold

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information from police. It appears Jackie Powell appears to have been

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given this letter when exit -- carrying out Carol as executioner

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of the Ian Brady's will. -- her role. She claims the latter was

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given back to Ian Brady at Ashworth hospital. Tonight there is mystery

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surrounded the whereabouts and the existence of that letter. We are no

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closer to solving the mystery of where Keith Bennett's body was left.

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Where are the remains of Keith Bennett? The little boy with a

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Beatles haircut, known as a daydreamer who could never

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concentrate at school. He disappeared on his way to his

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grandmother's, and since then his mother has been tortured, wondering

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where her son was left. I want him found before anything happens to me.

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I have got cancer and I do not know when I am going to die. I want

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Brady to know that I have got cancer. Marie McCourt is one of few

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women who truly know Winnie's hell. She has become a close friend 25

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years after her daughter Helen was murdered - her killer still won't

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reveal where her body was left. Helene is never, ever out of my

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mind. What would it mean to you? would mean everything. What drives

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a man to block the wishes of a dying woman? And why write the

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information down, knowing it could be discovered? I think he is coming

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towards the end of his life when he is going to meet his maker. I think

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he wants to come clean. There may be a bizarre twist. He has got a

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venomous contempt for the authorities. I think we will see a

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twist we do not expect. It is game- playing. He has not got the

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attention he wanted from his sanity trial. He is manipulating the media

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to get his needs met. Winnie Johnson has had her hopes raised

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before, and is tonight too poorly to say whether she now believes

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Keith's body will be found before she dies. I think it is fair to say

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that Ian Brady is seen as a very cruel and at times very

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manipulative man. There is a sense denied that we have been here

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before. There is a great deal of scepticism surrounding his letter.

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-- this letter. Joining us now is John Ainley, solicitor for Keith

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Bennett's mother, Winnie Johnson. We heard earlier in the package

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that you had not told Winnie. Is that it still the case? It is. She

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is not well enough to receive that information at the present time. I

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still have concerns about the validity of this story. I do not

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think it would be right to worry her at this time. Do you believe

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that this is something Brady would do, to reveal the location he has

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kept secret for all these years in a letter? It is possible. He may

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feel that would relieve his conscience to some extent. It is a

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little too late. It may have some valuable information. He may want

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it passed on after his death. When he has been ill for some time. She

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has got cancer. She is in a hospice. Had that information being

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presented sooner, it could have been acted on and Keith could have

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been found. Brady is a man who has been portrayed as very devious and

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manipulative. This is his last bargaining chip, isn't it? It seems

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to be. It is reported he is manipulative. He is a very clever

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man. He has wanted to keep some power to themselves until the end.

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-- to himself. It is difficult to understand his motives. If it is to

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be given after his death, it will be too late. Do the family have any

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-- any hope the body will be found before Winnie's death? It will be

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very difficult to find Keith without the assistance of the Ian

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Brady. That may not be in Winnie's lifetime. The information could be

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followed up. Thank you very much indeed. A drug

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user has died in Blackpool after being infected with anthrax. The

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source is thought to be contaminated heroin. The Health

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Protection Agency says the drug user - who injected heroin - died

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at Blackpool Victoria Hospital. The agency says it's unclear whether

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his death - and another in Scotland last month - are linked. It's

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reassuring people that there's very little risk to the general

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population. Police investigating the death of

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David Short in Clayton, have announced they're offering a reward

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of �25,000 for information leading to an arrest. The 46-year-old died

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at home last Friday in a gun and grenade attack. Ten minutes later

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there was a similar attack in Droylsden - no-one was hurt.

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Greater Manchester Police want to question 29-year-old Dale Cregan

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and Anthony Wilkinson, 33, in connection with both incidents.

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A team of motorbike enthusiasts from the Isle of Man have set a new

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bike land speed record on the salt flats of Utah in the United States.

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The team averaged 188.73 mph over two runs on a machine made in the

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Isle of Man. The previous record had stood for more than 33 years.

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The former home of George Formby at St Anne's in Lancashire has

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received a commemorative blue plaque.

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The entertainer lived in St Anne's for nearly 10 years until his death

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in 1961. The George Formby Society performed at the unveiling of the

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Still ahead, as Roma than it draws to a close, it is time to prepare

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for Eid. -- Ramadan. Can Robin turn Manchester United into title

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favourites? This weekend, Muslims across the North West will be

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celebrating the end of the fasting month of Ramadan, with the festival

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of Eid. That means preparing the food and looking good for the big

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day. So, shops across the region have been busy today, We sent our

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reporter, Yunus Mulla, to Blackburn. This family run business in

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Blackburn has made bread and cakes for more than three decades. Staff

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are baking up to 10 times the amount of products compared to the

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average day in preparation for the Muslim festival of Eid. The whole

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family will be involved in running the business tonight. It is mayhem.

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For almost a month, Muslims everywhere have been fasting as

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part of the month of Ramadan. Inside this shop, customers are

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getting ready to celebrate. You can get anything you need from here. It

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is easier. Currently there are more than 130 shops catering for the

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needs of the Asian community. It has a growing reputation of being

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the place to shop. The rapid expansion of the area has

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contributed to Blackburn's economy. We are in a recession. Blackburn is

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taking its fair share of the hit. Clearly you will see a lot of

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people shopping. There is no doubt in my mind it is creating jobs and

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opportunities for people. It has been a very positive experience for

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the economy. After this weekend, many of these businesses will be

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able to take a break. Before then, they will be joining in the Eid

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celebrations. I'm sure everybody will have a

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fantastic festival. Time for a bit of sport. Richard's joined us in

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the studio. It's been a terrific summer of sport, with the

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Paralympics still to come, and now the football season is upon us

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already. Yes, that's right - nine months of agony, ecstasy, banner

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headlines and touchline spats are upon us as the big kick-off gets

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underway tomorrow. Could we see a repeat of last season when the last

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kick in the last seconds of the last game meant Manchester City won

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the title from rivals United by goal difference alone? Andy Johnson

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looks ahead to the battle at the No City fan will ever tire of

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seeing that amazing moment. They are champions and enjoying every

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minute. It takes a good team to win the title once. But a great one to

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keep winning it year after year. have got the players, strength in

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depth. There is nobody that can come close. Champions. City

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unveiled Jack Rodwell today, adding to their plethora of midfield

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talent. Meanwhile, his new boss threw the first verbal punch in

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round one of the mind games bout with Sir Alex. They are better now

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with Van Persie. He is a really top player. This is the man United fans

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hope will tip the title balance in their favour. This is a big chance.

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I am looking forward to it. I am proud to be here. I am looking

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forward to achieve big things with Manchester United. Come on you

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reds! It the can produce 80% of the form he produced last season, I

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think we will rip -- I think we will win. A new manager at Anfield

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and renewed determination to bring back the good times. We have to

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make sure we are competitive. Everton have lost Cahill and

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Rodwell - will it be more make do and mend at Goodison? While he

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performed miracles to keep them up last time around, Wigan Athletic

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will need more of the same from Martinez. In recent seasons the

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Championship has been extremely unpredictable and competitive. And

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with Blackburn Rovers and Bolton Wanderers joining Blackpool and

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Burnley, the competition in the North West is bound to be fierce.

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Rovers and Wanderers will be looking to bounce straight back to

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the Premier League. For Blackburn and Bolton, last season didn't

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follow the script. Two completely different stories, but the same

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headline - relegation. Both have kept the bulk of their squads and

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added several new players. Both are aiming for an immediate return.

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certainly hope so. With the squad they have got, they should go Bak

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up. I expect them to be challenging. Keeping the ball got the team for

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last year was a great move. We have got the experience. It will be a

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good squad. I think the new players give us that edge. These are the

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statistics. Of the 58 occasions when a team has been relegated from

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the Premier League, 22 teams have never made it back. Of the ones

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that have, 15 have made an immediate return. But on average it

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has taken just over three seasons. Like Burnley, Blackpool enjoyed one

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season in the Premier League. Pool missed out in the Play-Off final

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last season. Many fans believe they can go one better this time.

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think this season it will be automatic promotion. Very positive

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at the moment. We have kept most of the squad together. Burnley

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finished 13th last season. Clarets supporters are hoping for more this

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time round. A lot of the other clubs have signed big-name players.

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Hopefully we can keep the spirit. Good signings. Happy with that. We

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need a couple of more central midfielders. The derbies could be

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the key, starting with Bolton's visit to Turf Moor tomorrow.

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Remember if you don't want to miss a goal, your local BBC Radio

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station remains the best place for coverage of the region's teams. You

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can hear more from John McGinlay tomorrow - he'll be working

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alongside Jack Dearden for Radio Manchester's commentary of Bolton

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versus Burnley. Radio Lancashire have full coverage of Blackburn's

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match at Ipswich. And listeners in Merseyside can hear full commentary

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of Liverpool's Premier League opener at West Brom. All those

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games kick off at three o'clock. Rio Ferdinand has been found guilty

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of improper conduct and fined �45,000 by the Football Association

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for comments on Twitter. The Manchester United defender denied

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he was being racist after responding to a tweet describing

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Chelsea's Ashley Cole as a "choc ice". But an independent commission

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ruled Ferdinand had brought the game into disrepute. Cheshire

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gymnast Beth Tweddle says the reaction she's had to winning an

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Olympic medal has been incredible. Beth, who trains in Liverpool, took

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bronze in the uneven bars at London 2012. In a career where she's won

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almost everything in the sport, it was her first time on an Olympic

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podium. I met her today. It has been a massive whirlwind. The

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emotions as well. I have had time to see my family and friends and

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boyfriend. We were away for about eight weeks prior to the Games. It

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has been a whirlwind but one I have really enjoyed. What was that

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moment like when you realised that you had got an Olympic medal?

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Halfway through my routine I knew I had got the metal. My mum had tears

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in my eyes. It made me get emotional. I never get emotional.

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Suddenly I stood there thinking, finally I have done it. IDG feel

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afterwards and how do you feel now? You feel different? A massive sense

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of relief has been taken off me. That night I could not sleep. I

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kept checking that my Neville was there. It was not just a dream. I

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just drive around now thinking that was the one dream I've wanted that

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I had not got. Finally I have got it. A lot of people Abbas defy are

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not disappointed because I did not get cold. -- a lot of people have

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asked. I get recognised everywhere now. As soon as someone saw the

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Team GB kit, they would be handy new. All really nice. Just wanting

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autographs. We you do another Olympics? I definitely will not

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carry on until real. But for next year, maybe keep my foot in the

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door for the competition's early in the season. I can help my own club

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because they have supported me throughout my career. I do not want

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to make any rash decisions. That is why I am going to take my time.

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What now? A bit of time off. Going on holiday. Then I did not know. I

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have spoken with my coach and my Federation and they are happy to

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support me to carry on training. I have done nothing else for 20 years.

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To suddenly stop would be mentally and physically too much.

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I was just so worried she was going to finish 4th again. Did you get a

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close look at the medal? I did. It was very heavy. The amazing thing

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with Beth Tweddle, because I have got friends who have daughters into

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gymnastics, and they are into it because of Beth Tweddle. She has

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left de real legacy. Still the face of British gymnastics. She has been

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world champion a couple of times over. But winning and then pick

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Matt all, everybody wants to talk to her. She deserves it. -- but

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winning an Olympic medal. Hundreds will tomorrow gather on Pendle Hill,

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four centuries exactly since 10 people were executed as witches

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after the notorious trials of 1612. In the village of Barley there'll

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be a world record attempt to amass the largest collection of people

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dressed as witches ever seen. Peter Marshall has been to meet a man who

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spends much of his working life walking in the Pendle witches

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Centuries have passed, shrouded in cloud. But Pendle Hill is forever

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linked to the witch trials. We're looking at people whose only crime

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was to live away from society. They fell victim to a superstitious King.

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Simon Entwistle says the story began on 18th March, 1612 when a

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beggar confronted a paddler. begged from him. He refused to give

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or anything. Of a sudden a large black dog sat next to her and asked

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if it should blame the man. She said, Leyne him. It all happened

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during the reign of James the first, the made witchcraft a hanging

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offence. If Emmeline Pankhurst was with us today, she would be the

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first person to shake this woman's hand. She stood up for women's

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rights and has gone down as one of the most famous Lancastrian ladies.

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After a two-day trial, the alleged witches were hanged. I look on the

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executions as a barbaric act. It showcased at the area. If Spielberg

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was to get his teeth into this story, he would have a box opposite.

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Tomorrow's festival will raise money for charity and keep a

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controversial period of British history in the public conscience.

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Peter mentioned the potentially record-breaking witch walk tomorrow,

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but there's a huge programme of events on over the next few weeks -

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walking tours, dramas, concerts and exhibitions. If you are interested,

:25:52.:26:02.
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take a look at the Pendle Council Now the weather now with Dianne.

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Good evening. You may have heard of temperatures of more than 30

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Celsius this weekend. Not for us. We have a host of problems with wet

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weather. There is a Met Office warning for Cumbria. Everyone else

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is under an amber warning. We could see between 20 and perhaps 70 mm of

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rain falling. It is an awful picture through the night. The

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cloud base will lower across the top of the Pennines. Fog will cause

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problems as well. The only saving grace is the temperatures, which

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continue to be very mild. When you get up first thing tomorrow morning,

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the rain is still with you. A cloudy start to the day. There

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could be localised flooding. There could be flooding -- water on the

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roads. By lunchtime the picture will change. Some spells of

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sunshine. Perhaps the odd shower in the afternoon. Temperatures

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continuing to be good. 18 in parts of Cumbria. 22, 23 elsewhere.

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