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from the Atlantic. Thank you very much. That's it from us. On

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Good evening. Welcome to North West Tonight with Annabel Tiffin and

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Roger Johnson. Our top story: Jail for the carers who tormented

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dementia patients because they'd didn't think they'd remember. Having

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listened to the families, I know that they are struggling to come to

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terms with the terrible acts inflicted upon their loved ones

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Police say the abuse was utterly contemptible, aimed at people who

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couldn't defend themselves. Also tonight: Alder Hey's boss

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admits theatre staff are unhappy, but insists his hospital is safe. No

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parent need have any concern. It is one of the top hospitals for

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children. Why babies in buggies can now be pushed to the synagogue on

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the Sabbath. And the good Samaritan: a former homeless drug addict

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helping feed those in need. Residents with dementia at a nursing

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home in Lancashire were tormented by their carers because they wouldn't

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remember the abuse. A court heard weak and inadequate management led

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to the "gratuitous sport of mistreatment." Residents at

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Hillcroft nursing home in Slyne`with`Hest were stamped on and

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pelted with bean bags and balls "for entertainment." Today, three carers

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were jailed for between three and eight months for their ill treatment

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and neglect. Our chief reporter Dave Guest is outside the home where the

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abuse happened. Yes, Hillcroft Nursing Home behind

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me had a specialist unit which deals with the most vulnerable of

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residence, those with dementia. It was here that this quartet of carers

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basically, as you say, indulged in what the judge described as

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gratuitous sport, taunting and teething and abusing them. Darren

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Smith, last year, had admitted eight counts of ill`treatment. The others

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denied the charges against them but were found guilty by a jury in

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November. Today, they came to court to face their punishment. Three of

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them have gone to jail to enable Dobbie at Carole Moore, who got four

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months, Katie Cairns, who got five months, and Darren Smith, who got

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eight months. The fourth, Gemma Pearson, left court today because he

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was given a community order and told he had to carry out unpaid work

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People with her shouted at the breast as she left court this

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afternoon. The judge said today that a lax and inadequate management

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regime had allowed a culture to develop at the nursing home which

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allow this sort of behaviour to go on unchecked. It was only brought to

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the attention of the authorities when whistle`blowers finally managed

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to persuade someone to listen to them and the people were arrested.

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Police have described this as a terrible and despicable crime.

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Darren Smith, Katie Cairns, Carole Moore and Gemma Pearson showed

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complete disregard for the well`being of people they had been

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adjusted to cap. But it do that there ill`treatment was directed at

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some of the most vulnerable members of our community. So, the police

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clearly disgusted, but I would imagine the families are even more

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so. Yes, and one of them, Chris Haywood, his dad, can, has sadly

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died since, nothing to do with the abuses of it. He was stamped on by

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Katie Cairns, and Chris Haywood gave this reaction outside court when I

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asked him what the family but when they heard what had been going on

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here. The words cannot really describe it, to be blatantly honest.

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It is just harrowing. It is horrific. When you have placed your

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trust and faith in someone at a care home to look after your loved one,

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and then next thing you know, you have the police knocking on your

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door saying they had been abused by those people, it is the worst

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feeling in the world. You just feel so guilty that you have placed them

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there in the first place. What do you think of these bought? Words can

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describe, to be blatantly honest. I am just glad it's over. I am just

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glad we can put a line underneath it and that there is learning to take

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from this. Are you hopeful lessons will be learned? I am hoping lessons

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have to be learnt. Communication is key to keep these things happening

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again, and I am very confident that within the new care bill that will

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be introduced this year, things like that will be stamped out. Would you

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have trust to place another relative into a care home? I think it is

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unfair to judge or care homes because of this one incident. `` in

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care homes. There are good numbers of staff still held that I know And

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sadly they have been affected by these four characters. There was a

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delay between initial complaint and something being done about it. Yes,

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even when the Care Quality Commission past all this on to

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Lancashire County Council, there was a delay of several months before the

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police became involved. In a statement this afternoon, the County

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Council said: We are sorry there was a delay in staring the allegations

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with the police. Meanwhile, they'll crop themselves have made no further

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comment today. They have previously said that there is a new management

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in place, and that things have changed. Thank you very much.

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It's it's five years since a

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whistle`blower first raised concerns about the operating theatre that

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Alder Hey Hospital. But only yesterday, a report was made public

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which said urgent action was needed to avoid a serious incident. So is

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the safety of the sick children who get treatment there being

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compromised? We couldn't ask the hospital that question last night

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because no one was available for interview. But we'll do that in just

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a moment. First, here's Jayne McCubbin.

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Sometimes, days off were cancelled. If people phoned in sick, you just

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have to stay on. You can't just walk out of an operating theatre.

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This is the mother of a former manager from Alder Hey. She says she

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was shocked by the conditions her daughter worked under at what is

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considered one of the UK's leading hospitals. Sundays, we would see her

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and she said she would have gone ten or 12 hours without a drink. Last

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March, I was at Alder Hey as a damning report was made public about

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staff at breaking point in its operating theatres. Managers said

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changes had been made. But last night I was back, to hear this from

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another critical report. ''There is no doubt that changes made have had

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an adverse impact on staff.'' ' The level of risk is such that urgent

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change is needed to avoid a serious incident.'' "Things are bad

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the hospital treats over a quarter of a million of the children every

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year. Surgery saved Sam's life after a brain tumour just before Christmas

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2012. It is probably the best hospital in the world for children.

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Children and young people with any illness, I think that hospital is

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without a doubt Alder Hey, and it is the best hospital in the world.

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Indeed, today, a nursing union told me they believe concerns raised

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relate to staff conditions and morale, but not to patient safety. I

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would like to assure families that from our perspective and from the

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perspective of our members who work in Alder Hey, we have not had

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concerns presented to us about patient care and patient safety We

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have had presented to us over several months now, the consequences

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of a restructure. What would you like to say? This afternoon, one of

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those responsible for the restructure took calls on radio

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Merseyside. I actually laughed Alder Hey last year. It was because of

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bullying and harassment. He also insists the health of children has

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never been, mice, but it led down to the skill and dedication of staff

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working under massive pressure just as much as it is down to luck? You

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saw Sir David Henshaw there. He is the Chair of the Alder Hey NHS

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Foundation Trust. I asked him what he could say to reassure parents

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that his hospital is a safe place for their children to be operated

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on. Alder Hey is safe. That is the

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simple, single truth that we can say today. None of the reports have

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indicated otherwise. We have has no incidents. Safety is paramount for

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children in Alder Hey. What this report is is an open report on a

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late state of play in a big journey we're going on with better staff, as

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we change the way we are doing things in this old Victorian

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building which has been run wonderfully for many years, and we

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are moving into a new 21st`century environment in this new hospital we

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are building. So we have improving things all the time. But this report

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says things need to change before there is a serious incident, so much

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as you might be proud of the fact that there hasn't been won and that

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there is good service for many, many people, there is still a concern. It

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is your own internal report that says it. Yes, and it is a

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perception. If you read the report, you will see it as a report about

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perception among theatre staff. I have read the report, and view at

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talking about what is mentioned at the end. The capacity for change.

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Are you saying staff do not have that? No, I am saying that we have

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got to accept that we have been working in a Victorian building the

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staff are doing a fantastic job in a very poor environment. We are moving

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to a brand`new environment which will be very different, so we can't

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carry on behaving in some ways as we do now. We had to change the way we

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do things, the way we use instruments, the way we check

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things. It is about building that highly effective team for the

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future, using the best of technology and the best of what we can offer

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any new building. And how do you take them with you then? In

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November, they went behind your back to the CQC and raise their concerns.

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Some of them did, but the meeting this morning, for example, there

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were 100 people there, I was in that. The reports to me were that

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staff were very concerned about the misreporting of this report and the

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way their views are being misreported. They are concerned but

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they want a great job. They do a great job now and they want to do it

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in the future. The simple truth is, whether the simple truth is, where

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Italy and supply? They lie with your own staff who are doing the job now.

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We to make sure we give them what they need to do the job well and

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better, but let's be clear. It is safe, it continues to be saved, no

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parents need have any concern at all. It is one of the top hospitals

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for children. Thank you. A rapist who attacked a Chester

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woman just two days after being released from prison ` has been told

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by a judge he can expect "a lengthy custodial sentence". 38`year`old

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Peter Watton from Lache in Chester ambushed his victim while she was

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jogging with her dog. He then subjected her to a nine`hour ordeal.

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Today he was convicted of all 1 charges against him including rape

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and false imprisonment. His victim was praised for her presence of

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mind. She had the wherewithal to leave a trail of evidence behind

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her, to build a rap or with the defendant so that he might let her

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go, which he did eventually, although she ran away from him. And

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then when she gave her statement to the police, she had a very good

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clear recollection of events. The Metropolitan Police have told

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the BBC they're looking into claims that Special Branch officers spied

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on Hillsborough justice campaigners. An article in Private Eye magazine

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claimed the force refused to confirm or deny whether relatives were put

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under surveillance. Police in Manchester are trying to

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work out how a man ended up dead in the city centre canal this morning.

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The body was found near to Store Street and Great Ancoats Street just

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after six o'clock. He is believed to be in his 30s. Police say it is too

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early to say whether the death as suspicious. As you well know, the

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Northwest 17 vibrant, thriving cotton industry, but these days

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there are more empty mills than working ones. Now there are plans to

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boost the economy in Lancashire and Greater Manchester by investing in

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textiles once again. Naomi Cornwell reports.

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The textiles industry shaped the region we live in. 100 years ago,

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the Northwest cotton industry produced 7 billion yd.? of cloth a

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year. But gradually, the foreign markets set up their own factories.

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Gone are the days when Manchester was referred to as cotton Pulis

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Many of the big warehouses and factories are now being converted

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into offices and flats. But Greater Manchester still has the highest

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density of textile factories in the country. It is investment in these

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that makes people believe the textile industry could thrive again.

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The former MP for Rochdale is running a project to see of it is a

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realistic growth area. Over ?12 million from a regional growth fund

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has been earmarked for investment already. Greater Manchester,

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Lancashire and West Yorkshire cardiac centre of the textile

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manufacturing industry the United Kingdom. There is significant growth

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potential both in terms of exporter and also in terms of retailers

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needing local capacity to feed the turnaround that is now needed on the

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High Street. And in Middleton, this luxury company is working

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side`by`side with old college, who have set up a fashion academy on

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site. We're delivering the training alongside employers who are telling

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us what their needs are in skills over the coming months. The macro

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just brilliant to get people to experience. Everything that is here

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and available to us, it is just fantastic. You never get anything

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like this in college. And they'll be looking at how

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textiles can benefit the wider North West economy in the Sunday Politics,

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which is back this weekend at 1 o'clock on Sunday on BBC One.

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Lancashire's Police Commissioner says he is disappointed as taking

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over a year for him to be cleared of fiddling his expenses. The Crown

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Prosecution Service has ruled there is insufficient evidence to prove

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the claims were made dishonestly. It with the outcome I expected all the

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way through. If people feel I should apologise, absolutely, I would

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apologise for making those mistakes, but I feel that the outcome from the

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CPS does vindicate what I have said all the time.

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More than 400 jobs could go at Cheshire West and Cheshire Council.

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They say unavoidable staff reductions, which would save almost

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?15 million, are among budget options but out to public

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consultation. If agreed, management posts will be mainly affected.

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Meanwhile, the Isle of Man's Chief Constable says the forces to lose 6%

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of its staff due to budget cuts The department has to save almost ?

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million over the next two years 92% of the police budget is spent on

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wages. There is good news, however, at

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Porton, near Lancaster, where its brickworks could be up and running

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again by early next year. It was mothballed in 2010 because of a lack

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of demand, but site owners Hanson Building Products say there's been

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an upturn in the industry. 34 staff have already been recruited.

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The lives of thousands of Jewish people in Manchester are about to be

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transformed with the setting up of an eruv. It's a geographical area

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within which practising orthodox Jews will be able to do some of the

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things normally banned on the Sabbath. One of the biggest changes

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will be for families with young babies, because laws relating to

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pushing prams will be relaxed. Our reporter Judy Hobson has been

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finding out what difference an eruv will make.

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Getting ready for a sabbath. That means a day of rest for practising

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orthodox Jews. But things are about to change in this part of north

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Manchester. After ten years in the planning, and eruv has now been set

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up. It is a technical boundary incorporating parts of Salford,

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Prestwich and cramps all. This is Manchester's biggest orthodox Jewish

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immunity. It will change the situation in the street. Up till

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now, women with little children have basically been housebound, unable to

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take their children out of they can't walk, because it would be

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prohibited on the sabbath with a body. They will now be able to enjoy

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the sabbath. At the other end of the scale, old people who are

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housebound, who need wheeling, they have not been able to go out on the

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sabbath. They will be able to go to synagogue and family events. The

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eruv perimeter is 30 miles long and there must be a proper boundary

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like this fence, which has been specifically built. Here, the world

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has been made higher so that it stands out. So what happens when the

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boundary crosses a road? Before the sabbath began, this rabbi showed me.

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You can see on either side of the road, with a wire running across

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between these two posts, and that is an entrance into the eruv area. The

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sabbath started today just before five o'clock, and last until

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darkness tomorrow. Not all sabbath rules are relaxed within the eruv

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boundary, but Jews coming to the synagogue tonight could carry things

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like handkerchiefs and Keys, for the first time in the sabbath. I like to

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be able to get that with the children, and it will make life more

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sociable on the sabbath. Now, my wife can get out and about, and we

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can go out for the sabbath. It is liberating. The tarmac will be the

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biggest in the UK, and although not all Orthodox Jews like it, it will

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change the lives of thousands here celebrating the sabbath.

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Richard is here with the sport now, and could things really get any

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worse for David Moyes? Well, let's just say that things can

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surely only get better after the last couple of weeks. Three

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successive defeats on the field have now been followed up with trouble

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off it. The Manchester United manager has been charged with

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misconduct by the FA. It's all to do with comments he made about the

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referees after Tuesday's League One defeat at Sunderland. I think it's

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fair to say that opposition fans are revelling in United's woes. There's

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no doubt about that, and just to rub it in, their two biggest rivals have

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picked up awards today. Manchester City's Manuel Pellegrini has been

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named December's Manager of the Month, while Liverpool's Luis Suarez

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has been named Premier League Player of the Month. The striker is a

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worthy winner, having become the first Premier League player ever to

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reach double figures in a calendar month. Is there any light at the end

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of the tunnel for David Moyes and United? But of course. But to add to

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their problems, Wayne Rooney is out for tomorrow's match at home to

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Swansea. But United are doing everything they can to get the

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England striker fit for next week's big clash with Chelsea. He's been

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sent to the sunshine with a United fitness coach for warm weather work

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to speed up his recovery from a groin injury. Let's hope he makes a

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speedy return. In the championship tomorrow, Wigan host Bournemouth, on

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form under new manager Uwe Rosler. They have moved to within three

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points of the play`offs. Today, I sat down with the new boss to

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discuss personal battles and that good start at the stadium. We're

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turned the corner. We're still at work in progress. Every manager has

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his way to play football, and to run the football club and obviously I am

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here. I'm just here for four weeks, so it is a long way before I can say

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that is my team, but that is my aim, to bring this club back to the

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premiership. Your own individual story is interesting and quite

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different. You grew up in East Germany. Does that seem a lifetime

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away? Yes. I can't really remember that time. But I am fortunate that I

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had a chance to live in a different political system out of my life

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Yellow mattress another's experiences were extraordinary. I

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was reading that the East German secret police, the Stasi, tried to

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get you to spy on your team`mates? Yes. That was a common thing in the

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East. It must have been a scary moment. Definitely, because it got

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massive pressure on me. They more or less put the knife at my throat

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saying you work with us what you are against us. I followed my dad's

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advice to go right to the managers and sort them out. The biggest

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battle in your life has been with cancer. It is an obvious question,

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but how difficult a time was that? It is difficult to understand. When

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you are a sports person at the top of your profession, everything you

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did in your life before was just keeping fit and trying to perform,

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and then somebody tells you you probably have a week to live. That

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was difficult. Difficult to understand for me. You received

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support from all sorts of different people, including lots of Manchester

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City fans. Does that bond with Manchester City fans feel as strong

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as it always did with you? I always had a very good bond with the

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supporters. I have never lost contact through my time in Norway or

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Germany. But obviously, in that period, when I really needed help,

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psychologically, and support, the supporters of Manchester City most

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definitely helped, and for me, psychologically, they played a

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massive part for me to recover. Fascinating to sit down and talk

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with duvet today. `` Uwe Rosler There is an almost north`west derby

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to look forward to the BDO world darts championship, with Saint

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Helens's Stephen bunting, and Robbie Green meeting in the semifinals

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Number one seed Stephen beat Belgium's number one seed. You can

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see the match tomorrow at 2:45pm. You can tell he is continental, Uwe

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Rosler. Just sits there and listens to you all stop he didn't even see

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the cup. And his story is really interesting, as you heard. What we

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did not put in there was that it was a specific story about how he had a

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phone call from a friend, telling him when he was in the middle of

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chemotherapy that at a Manchester City game, more than 40,000 fans had

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been chanting his name. That really gave him the boost to go on. He was

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one of the really great strikers, wasn't he? An absolute icon. Thank

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you very much. Staying with a football theme in a

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way now. We are going to meet a man whose grandad was a successful

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manager for Everton Football Club and he came from a normal, loving

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family. But by the age of 17, Tony Smith was hooked on heroin, and he

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spent 15 years living on the streets. Tony overcame his

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addiction, and last night his church invited and paid for 100 homeless

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people to have a three course buffet at a restaurant in Manchester. Nazia

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Mogra reports. Lindon's getting an invite for the

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meal. He was once a builder. Now he's sleeping on a friend's sofa.

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Any money he earns is from playing music on the streets. Years ago you

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use to get spit on and kicked and everything, but these days, people

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don't seem to be as bad. Tony knows all too well what being homeless is

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like. He overcame drug addiction with the help of his church. Now he

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has a roof over his head and spends his time like today, helping others.

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Have you done all right today? No. Shame has a lot to do with it. You

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don't want to bother people. You think you can manage. Yeah, go on,

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Aldo it. Simon Kroon NICE one, fallow. A restaurant opening their

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doors for homeless people may for some be hard to believe, but for the

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manager of The Red Hot World Buffet, tonight is very special. We have

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lost a child in our family, and every time you walk down the street,

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you think that could be your son or daughter. Sometimes it is paying

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back, thinking they could be our family. It is nice. I had

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everything. I had a bag of food and now I'm going home. To see some of

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the lads' faces who've never been in a restaurant and some of the girls

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tonight, yes, definitely worth it Tony and his church but this will

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remind others that homeless people need help not just at Christmas but

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throughout the year. What a great story. I think they all

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enjoy themselves the shore. And now, the weather with Eno.

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Tomorrow is looking really good It is a date to be outdoors if you plan

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for that. For the weekend, the first half, I would say, is the best part

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of the weekend. Mostly dry and bright tomorrow, but some overnight

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frost from Saturday into Sunday Sunday starts off on a decent note,

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but a lot of the food will see some rain much later. For tonight, we

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will have a yellow weather warning for its valid from nine o'clock

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because we have had some rain through this afternoon and this

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evening. The rain continues to push through through this evening, gone

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by ten o'clock, hopefully, leaving behind a legacy of showers sneaking

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in through the Cheshire gap. But then we will see the skies clearing

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from the north, so clearing in Cumbria down, and maybe some fog

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patches there as well. We may see some fog in Cumbria and frost

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batches in the Isle of Man underneath clear skies, but here,

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also possibly the best places if you fancy trying to spot the Northern

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lights. Temperatures in Cumbria and the Isle of Man, you can see they

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drop very close to freezing. Where we keep the clouds, a mild night,

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temperatures maybe three or four Celsius. Then, tomorrow, these guys

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continue to clear. They clear from the north, clearing south. A decent

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day tomorrow. As can see, mostly dry, decent spells of sunshine.

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Breezy initially, but the breeze dies away through the afternoon

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It's not going to be particularly warm. Fog already starting to return

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by late afternoon. Six or seven Celsius tomorrow. Not warm at all.

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As we head into Sunday, another front begins to approach, but on

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Saturday night, the skies continue to clear. Lots of fog around,

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leading up to Sunday morning. Some frost as well. Then for Sunday, we

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start off with clear skies, a bright start, but you can see as we head

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into Sunday night, another band of rain begins moving in, so Sunday

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night could be wet. Not articulate warm again on Sunday, six or seven

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Celsius, but hopefully drier by Monday.

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Celsius, Thank you very much. Come and join

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the argument about Roger's Ty! I love it! Plus, negative? OK. It

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would go perfectly with Uwe Rosler's mullets from the 80s. I

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would have a dress in both colours. Opinion is divided. I will take it

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off then! Goodbye!

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