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Welcome to South East Today, I'm Rob Smith, and I'm Polly Evans.

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Tonight's top stories: Plans for a Thames Airport estuary

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WILL be seriously considered as the Government changes its thinking on

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"Boris Island". We will explore all the options for maintaining the

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UK's aviation hub status. Campaigners say they have fought

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off plans for a new South East airport before, and they're

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prepared to fight again. We are flabbergasted that this location

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has even been taken seriously. They cite surrounded by wild life has to

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be the least sensible area for any building. We will have reaction

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from the Isle of Grain, the Medway Towns and Westminster.

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Also in tonight's programme: A �400 million plan for a second ferry

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terminal at Dover gets the green light from the Government.

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The strike starts at midnight - thousands of the South East's

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public sector workers are expected to take industrial action in a

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battle over pensions. And the dress Amy Winehouse wore

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for her Back To Black album sells for over �43,000 at a charity

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Good evening. Proposals to build a huge new hub airport in the Thames

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Estuary will be seriously considered by the Government, the

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Chancellor revealed today. The announcement that all options will

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be explored by ministers, in order to maintain the South East's status

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as an international aviation hub, is a marked shift in thinking.

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George Osborne told the Commons this afternoon that nothing would

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be ruled out, except for a third runway at Heathrow. Previously,

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ministers had maintained they had no plans for a Thames Estuary

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airport. We will explore all the options for

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maintain the Duke the's aviation hub status. -- the UK's. It was the

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first public acknowledgement that the government would look at plans

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for a club airport in the South East. -- hub airport. There are two

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plans in the public domain: Boris Island, and Lord Foster's plans for

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a hub airport on the Isle of Grain. There is an awful lot of interest,

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largely because of the potential to attract investment, encourage

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growth, give us the opportunity to expand as the economy, and give us

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the tools we need as a nation. want our business community to be

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able to communicate with those growth economies in China and Latin

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America. We need to think more imaginatively. Imagination is not

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what the residents in Cliffe want. They have fought a battle to reject

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a similar plans. But now the County Council appeared to support the

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idea. You seem to be saying a hub airport is what we need? I still

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retained the views of a year or two when Boris announced the estuary

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airport. I think he is barking mad! The reason they need to expand in

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the South East of England,... A second runway in Gatwick but --

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would be an option, or you could look at the Isle of Grain

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proposition which I don't support because there is a better solution

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on the other side of the estuary. whether it is Essex, Kent or the

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River Thames, the politicians appear to have shifted their

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position, and are willing to consider a new airport in the South

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East. But that is a long way to becoming a reality.

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The arguments over plans for a new South East airport have been raging

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for many years. In 2003, the Government ruled out building a new

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airport at Cliffe in North Kent, choosing to concentrate instead on

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choosing to concentrate instead on growth at Stansted and Heathrow.

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Five years later, the Mayor of London re-invented the idea with

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his so-called "Boris Island" plan, his so-called "Boris Island" plan,

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which he was reported to have described as the "biggest and

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described as the "biggest and bravest project" that he could do.

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Opponents dubbed it "pie in the sky", and over the past few years,

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including when he spoke to me on this programme, David Cameron

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this programme, David Cameron repeatedly dismissed the idea.

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Boris is a great Mayor of London. But building airports is not his

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responsibility! That is not our policy or approach. We say no to a

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third runway. The Department of Transport has no plans for a new

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airport. airport.

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So what are the other options? The coalition government ruled out a

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third runway at Heathrow as soon as they came into power, a point

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reiterated by the Chancellor today. There are expansion plans at

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Gatwick to cater for an extra 7 million passengers a year, but

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legal restrictions currently prevent a second runway. And

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airline bosses have criticised proposals for a high-speed train

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link between Heathrow and Gatwick, the so-called "Heathwick" plan, as

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"inefficient" and "not the answer" to our aviation challenges. Mark

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Norman is live on the Isle of Grain for us now. Mark, how likely is it

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that where you're standing now will that where you're standing now will

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one day be part of a �40 billion airport? It remains to be seen, but

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the government believe that large infrastructure projects are the way

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forward to galvanise the economy. But where will the money come from?

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It wouldn't be the tax payer. Lord Foster, who wants to build his

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airport care, says the money is available here from private sources.

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Them airline boss said the money is not there, however. -- and airline

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boss. It remains to be seen what exactly what happened, but I'm not

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convinced whether it will happen here.

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The Government is inviting people to put forward their views on the

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future of aviation policy, and the next step is publication of draft

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proposals that will go out for consultation in spring next year.

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If they were to create a new airport, it would bring tens of

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thousands of new jobs. James fared a new airport would

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lead to their home been concreted over. -- freer. -- James fears.

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don't want to move, and we want to keep our house! That is the bottom

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line. An airport would change his area ever. Campaigners who fought

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off an airport at Cliffe say it would raise the same environmental

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concerns. We are flabbergasted that this location has even been taken

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seriously. This site surrounded by a wildlife has got to be the least

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sensible area for any major infrastructure. But in Chatham,

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people out of work say anything that offers hope must be considered.

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I had been looking for a job for, well, since 20th September 10, so

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any chance full employment must be good for the area. -- sense SEP-

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2010. -- since 20th September 10. - - since September, 2010. I came

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here because it is quiet. I think it is rubbish, personally. I doubt

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if they will ever put on a board table stop we have got up our game.

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-- I doubt if they will ever put an airport tipple stop we will have a

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study of our own. The solution is to make better use of existing

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airports, not build a new one. Simon Jones with that report, and

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he's live in Chatham. Simon, do Medway Council now accept that that

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they have got a real fight on their hands to stop a new airport there?

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Until now, man -- Medway council has described the idea as pie-in-

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the-sky. But I think they now accept they have to make a

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compelling case against it. One argument is going to be the effect

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on a wildlife and birds, but then a document released by the government,

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looking at infrastructure projects, is says considering this issue

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should not be allowed to add cost and delay to developments.

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Our political editor, Louise Stewart, is live in Westminster.

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Louise, this looks like a really significant change in position for

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the government from where they were when they came to power 18 months

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ago. It is not a change in policy, but seems to be a change in

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thinking and language. I am joined by the MP, Michael, and by a Labour

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MP. Michael, is there is a significant change for the

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government? No, it is not a decision. The government has got an

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overall review going on airport capacity. I think all that has

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happened is they will say any proposals put forward as a new

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airport in the Thames Estuary, they will have a look at them. But there

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is no decision yet. I would be surprised if this goes further.

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David Cameron said there are no plans for a hub airport in the

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South East, and the Chancellor seemed to change that. Is it

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gaining momentum? We have ruled out any expansion of Heathrow. You

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can't expand at Gatwick because of the terms of the least of that

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airport. But overall, you have got a look at the whole region, the

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horror of the South East, and be sure you have enough capacity as a

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these airports fill up. -- whole of the South East. So how do do that?

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You can look at existing airports, like Stansted, but we will look at

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new proposals examined. But I don't think this is in any advanced stage.

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What would you say, as a Labour MP? This is a big infrastructure

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project. It is unlikely to happen. Like a lot of this Budget, there is

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a lot of big talk, but it is not delivering. Last year, the

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government made a mistake to cut public spending. We found out today

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that unemployment has gone up, there is no group, but the

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Government is borrowing far more than it said it would a year ago.

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They are project announced today. What is clear to ours, we think the

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government should have had a better approach to deficit reduction. --

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clear to us. We want to see stop the war happen. We were going to

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rebuild schools. The building for schools programme has been scrapped.

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Thank you very much indeed. We want to know what you think. Is

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the Government right to give serious consideration to a Thames

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Estuary airport? Or are ministers wrong to ignore concerted

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opposition from people who live there, local councillors and

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environmentalists? Email your views, environmentalists? Email your views,

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or join the debate on our Facebook site, and we'll hear your comments

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site, and we'll hear your comments later in the programme.

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Away from the controversial issue of a new Thames Estuary airport,

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two major infrastructure projects for the South East have been

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announced today. George Osborne said that work will start on a new

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Thames crossing which could link Kent and Essex at Dartford, or

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Swanscombe or Gravesend. And the Government has also approved a �400

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million pscheme to build a second ferry terminal at Dover, which

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could double the port's capacity. Peter Whittlesea joins us live in

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Dover. Peter, what stage are the plans at now? The next stage is the

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designs of what they will build. Dover has spent �2 million to get

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to the stage. They say, by giving the go-ahead for a second terminal,

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it has saved guarded Dover's future That is why Dover's four-berth

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terminal was approved. What it means is that we have now got some

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certainty over how we might develop support in the long run. It is

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building infrastructure in the UK. It takes a long time. Having

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received a planning permission now it gives us that certainty. We know

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where we will be going forward and we can plan accordingly. Critics

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say these plans will be on hold for decades because a second term will

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is not needed. This has been a planning application that has been

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in the mill for years. Finally it has come out and we have a decision.

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I think it is a welcome thing up but there is still a long way to go.

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So the likelihood of it happening any time since it -- any time soon

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is nil. Most studies predict that the present Tamil one is likely to

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be adequate but least until the end of 2020.

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Others hope that the Government's plan will become a reality soon --

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as soon as possible to cut congestion. But many believe this

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project will not be straightforward. If the project goes into my

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constituency, goes into the World Heritage Sites, it goes straight

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past her in areas and will absolutely blight the property

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values of people who have worked hard all their lives. It also cuts

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straight through my running writ, so I am definitely against this one.

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-- looked. The big question is where is the money coming from.

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Insiders have told May that Dover Harbour us are in but her flimflam.

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That they have no hope of raising of the money because traffic across

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the Channel is down. Three men have been arrested in

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Rochester following the seizure of cocaine with an estimated street

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value of �50 million. 150 kilos of the placid at -- class A drug was

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found by the Met Police. The family of a man from Kent who

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has been missing for more than a week say they are deeply worried.

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He left home last Sunday without keys or money. He has not been seen

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since. A one of the biggest national

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strikes in national memory is due to get underway in a few hours'

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time. Ports and airports, schools and hospitals will be affected as

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thousands of people take industrial action. The marches and piccolos

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will be visible in our cities. -- picket lines.

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What is expected to happen tomorrow?

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It depends on your point of view. It could be seen as a massive

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celebration of people power, at 10,000 people expected here. Or you

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could see it as a massive case of disruption, at that is certainly

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the Government's position. They say this is a cynical strike, taking

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place whilst negotiations are ongoing. In a moment who will look

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at what this -- how this will affect you, but first we were hear

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from three people taking part. will mean paying any more, at the

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equivalent of a day's pay each month, I will have to work longer,

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so instead of retiring at 60 I will have to retire at 67 and it will

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also mean that at the end of it I get over �1,000 less a year. For me,

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as a young teacher, at the end of a school week I am exhausted. It is a

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tiring and demanding job. Imagine doing those things at the age of 68

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is very difficult to imagine. We also want to send the message that

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we are not just doing this for an own benefit, we are thinking about

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the education in the long term, the future of our children. It is going

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to work out another �500 a year for me to pay out. For me and my family,

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we are already living on not a lot of money. That extra 500 will mean

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a lot to me. It will mean less treats like taking the children

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away for a day. We have to stand up and be counted because at the end

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of the day it is your pension and to you have to make them see that

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they cannot do this to us. So three public sector workers there

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explaining why they believe in this strike. What will the destruction

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amount to? Schools, nearly all, all will be nearly closed or partially

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closed. Hospitals will be largely open, doctors will be working, most

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midwives and nurses will be working. Only those in unions striking. Out-

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patient clinics may be affected. Roads may be affected and Gatwick

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airport at say that they think it - - say that it may not be business

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as usual so check websites. The best way to keep up-to-date on

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the latest impact of the strikes is to log on it to the website below.

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It is approaching it 6:50pm. Our top story tonight is that plans for

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a Thames estuary Airport will now be seriously considered.

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Campaigners in Kent say they have fought off plans for at an airport

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before and they are prepared to fight again.

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Also in tonight's programme: Amy Winehouse and the �43,000 dress.

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How the star's legacy will help others.

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And it has been an increasingly wet and windy day today, but will the

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unsettled weather be lasting? Join me later to find out.

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She was the first British female artist to win five Grammy awards,

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but Amy Winehouse's career was tragically cut short when she died

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earlier this year after a long public battle with addiction.

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Her second album Back to Black is the UK's best set -- best-selling

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album of the 21st century. If to do the dress she wore on the cover

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sold for �43,000. Her father Mitch Winehouse says the charity -- says

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the money will go to the charity set up in his Dr's name.

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This is the �43,000 dress. # We always said goodbye in words.

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is the last album Amy Winehouse lived to see. She died tragically

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young, too young. But Amy Winehouse's voice resonates with an

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entire generation and money raised with the dress sale will go to her

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new foundation. It is an absolute tragedy that we are here but we are

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trying to make the best of it and for a new's dress to be sold along

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with that of Elizabeth Taylor and Princess Diana and Audrey Hepburn,

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it shows how much people loved Amy. # The tried to make me go to the

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have... Such was the controversy surrounding the Senate that in 2006

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hair stylist -- that when her stylist asked to lend it dresses

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for her album, designers backed off. But a young up and coming designer

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decided to go for it and this is the result. Back to Black went

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astronomical, another album up of previously unreleased material

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comes out on Monday. Amy's sound was so popular that she is credited

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with the injecting popularity into female musicians. -- reinject in.

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She had a unique voice and her own style. I do not think it was

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necessarily the excepted elegant look, but she was as noted for that

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as her music almost. The dress was bought by a museum. Now her style

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can be preserved just as her voice will be.

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Onto football, and Charlton increased their lead at the top of

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League One to seven points with a 2-0 win over rivals Huddersfield.

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The Addicks went in front midway through the first half thanks to

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Yann Kermogant and added a second before half time after good work

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from Bradley Wright Phillips set up Hogan Ephraim, up to the delight of

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Charlton's fans. We have travelled all the way from Broadstairs. And

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it is a win! It is fantastic. terrific goals. A great day.

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Absolutely brilliant. Brighton and Hove Albion could move

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back into the Championship promotion play off positions with

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victory at Derby tonight. The Albion will be hoping to build on

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Saturday's win over Coventry, although defender Marcus Painter

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has joined the long list of players currently missing through injury.

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You had to the trickier names It has been a blustery and wet day

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today. The wind will die down at but showers will linger. It will

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still feel breezy. It will be cooler in the afternoon. D-Day was

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mostly dry in the morning and then up cloud thickened. -- today. All

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of us of some rain at some point today. Al though it was mostly dry,

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though south-westerly -- south- westerly winds picked up to gale-

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force. There have -- it has been milder air so temperatures above

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average for the time of year. That rain slowly clears through this

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evening. We will see further showers spreading eastwards along

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the south coast. Inland, temperatures drop to around five

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degrees. We are still holding on to the south-westerly winds. That is

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how we start the day tomorrow. Showers lingered throughout the

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morning and a little bit brighter in the afternoon. We have more

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unsettled weather are waiting in the wins -- in the wings. Tomorrow

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afternoon will be slightly brighter. Temperatures will range between 11

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and 12 degrees. Try for a time but rain spreads East word. It will be

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windy as well. -- Easter Road. Thursday will be wet and windy.

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Temperatures not getting much above 11 or 12 degrees. Friday will be

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Let us get a recap of tonight's top story. Proposals to build a huge

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new airport will be seriously considered by the Government. The

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announcement that all options will be explored by ministers in order

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to ex -- in order to preserve the South East's status as an aviation

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hub. Our Business Correspondent is live

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in Kent. A new airport there is one plan but there are other options,

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are there not? Yes. A second runway at are at --

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at Gatwick or expansion at Stansted, but to the business community say

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that would not be enough. There are huge business communities abroad

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that are not served by direct flights to the UK but are served by

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direct flights to Europe, that is wide many say that a new airport is

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the only option. The debate will go on, and the story will not go away.

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We have been asking what you think about this. We have had lots of

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strong opinions. Thames says no to another airport, the beautiful

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reverse there are a delight. -- rivers. This one here says that

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she thinks the airport is a good idea. Where do the needs for the

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nation go, up birds or families? It costs a lot of money to keep people

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on welfare benefits and birds will migrate to other places.

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Dan from Dartford says he cannot believe the ridiculous notion of

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building a new airport, of why not use Manchester International?

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Increase the high-speed rail link to that location.

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