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This is BBC World News Today. The fightback begins. The recent | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
violence on England's Street will not be tolerated. That is the | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
message from the British Prime Minister, David Cameron. We will | :00:24. | :00:29. | |
track you down, we will find you, we will charge you. You will pay | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
for what you have done. We are sticking to our guns. It is still | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
plan away. The Chancellor warns that the recovery will be harder | :00:38. | :00:46. | |
and longer than expected. I am live in Naples, on the day that the | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
Italian Finance Minister promised tough financial measures to bring | :00:50. | :00:56. | |
down Italy's debt. The truth may be out there if you have the time and | :00:56. | :01:06. | |
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money to look. The defence ministry Criminality, pure and simple. That | :01:17. | :01:20. | |
is how David Cameron has been describing the riots and looting | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
across England in the last week. Speaking at an emergency recall of | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
violence, he said -- recall of Parliament, he said the violence | :01:30. | :01:40. | |
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would not be tolerated. He also A smash and grab raid in south | :01:46. | :01:53. | |
London. Today, it was the police doing it, with the cameras invited | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
along to witness a suspect being hauled in. They and their political | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
masters want the message to go alt that the streets of Britain are | :02:02. | :02:10. | |
back under control. To the Lord -- the law abiding people, we will | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
protect you. If you have had your livelihood damaged, we will | :02:15. | :02:22. | |
compensate you. We are on your side. To the lawless minority, I say this. | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
We will track down, we would find you, we will charge you, we will | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
punish you. You will pay for what you have done. A packed house spoke | :02:32. | :02:37. | |
as one during this emergency session. Almost as is the country | :02:37. | :02:46. | |
was at war. Whatever we agree on, week by week, month by month, today | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
as a house, we stand together against the violence that we have | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
seen. They can be no excuses and no justification. This behaviour has | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
disgusted us all. It cannot be allowed to stand and we will not | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
allow it to stand. The bravery of the individual police officers | :03:03. | :03:09. | |
caught up in the raids was praised. But there was a widespread | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
criticism for the bosses tactics. The what became increasingly clear | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
earlier this week was that they were far too few police employed on | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
our streets, and the tactics they were using were not working. Police | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
chiefs have been frank with me about the pride this happened. | :03:26. | :03:32. | |
Initially, they treated this as a public order issue rather than a | :03:32. | :03:39. | |
crime. In the future, combating gangs would be a national priority. | :03:39. | :03:49. | |
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Powers to reveal that -- to remove pace -- face marks would be used. | :03:52. | :03:58. | |
Today, the MP for Tottenham spoke out about the anger of his | :03:58. | :04:04. | |
constituents. 45 people have lost their homes in Tottenham. They were | :04:04. | :04:11. | |
carrying their children in their arms. Their cry is "where was the | :04:11. | :04:21. | |
police?". Thousands of police would be kept on the streets. One by one, | :04:21. | :04:28. | |
officers are identifying those who should be brought to bear stairs. | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
Politicians united to condemn the violence, but they were divided on | :04:31. | :04:39. | |
the future of the police. With me in the studio is Phil Jones, a | :04:39. | :04:46. | |
writer and youth worker, and Brian Paddick, a police commissioner | :04:46. | :04:53. | |
turned politician. It was interesting, not a great deal of | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
discussion in the Commons today about the causes of this, but they | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
were saying the looting was about theft, not politics. The you agree | :05:03. | :05:09. | |
with that? I think what happened was that potential looters saw that | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
in Tottenham, people were able to go into stores, still things, in | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
front of the bullet -- police, and the police were not doing anything | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
about it. They thought if they could organise themselves in | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
sufficient numbers, they could do the same things and get away with | :05:23. | :05:31. | |
it. It was criminality? It wasn't part as -- part of a wider malaise | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
in society, and they were making a point? If that was the case, why | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
have we not seen looting up until now? The answer is, people wanted | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
to get stuck for free, and they thought they could get away with it. | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
Do you agree with that? Yes. I would like to make a couple of | :05:50. | :05:56. | |
points. What we are looking at is the end product. That is the right | :05:56. | :06:02. | |
and the breaking in that in those - - breaking in windows. I would like | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
to make a point about the pack mentality. We saw it in the 1970s | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
with football hooliganism. The police came down much harder in | :06:12. | :06:18. | |
those days. Maybe it is a question that Prime could answer. Many | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
people said that they went along with other people. I am the same as | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
the next person. I saw the pictures and thought it was terrible. But I | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
must come back to a point about the causes of this. I have been working | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
for 15 years with these people in schools and so forth. Do we want to | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
look at the course of why this happened or not? We can just look | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
at the end product. I can give you some reasons. What are the causes | :06:45. | :06:55. | |
behind this? When you ask me what I am a role model for, I look at the | :06:55. | :07:01. | |
top down for a change. Let's look at the messages we just sent out. I | :07:01. | :07:11. | |
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am looking at the will of the Conservative MP who put a note into | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
-- a house for his ducks. That came from taxpayers' expenses. What | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
started -- startled me is that he said he was none of our business. | :07:25. | :07:34. | |
The young people you spoke to, what was their reaction? Can I be frank | :07:34. | :07:42. | |
with you? They said on a gangster's? They do not get sent to | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
prison. David Cameron made clear that they have been failures in the | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
police. Do you think if this had been addressed in a robust way, the | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
copycat rioting would have not happened? I don't think so. They | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
saw people getting away with it. We have had this before. When police | :08:02. | :08:09. | |
had shot someone, it deteriorates into a riot. They must have known | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
it was a likely outcome. They should have had police there in | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
numbers. If they had done that, I do not think we would have seen the | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
copycat riots. The water cannons used in Northern Ireland could be | :08:23. | :08:33. | |
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used here. But the powers outlined today. Is that enough? Turning of | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
social networks if there is a threat? There is a balance here | :08:37. | :08:46. | |
between civil liberties... A lot of the people cleaning up have used | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
the same social networks. A thin toast -- turn of social networks is | :08:50. | :08:56. | |
a bad thing. The police are not using their powers responsibly. | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
Just a final thing for you both. In terms of parental responsibility, a | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
breakdown in family, how much is that relevant as well? David | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
Cameron talked about the broken society, a sick society. How much | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
does that playing it? A very interesting comment but David | :09:15. | :09:22. | |
Cameron made about the sick society. When I work with the young people, | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
should I condemn the the single parent who does her level best day | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
in day out to keep these people under -- keep these people out of | :09:33. | :09:40. | |
trouble? Or should I can Ben -- condemned the parents? They need | :09:40. | :09:46. | |
support. The support is being taken away. Just a final point on that | :09:46. | :09:56. | |
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one. A point on social housing. already have things like acceptable | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
behaviour contracts, where people signed to say that the children | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
will obey the law, and if not, their tenancy will be in jeopardy. | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
I don't think we should do it after event -- after the event, but if we | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
make it clear that good behaviour is a condition of it, then that is | :10:14. | :10:21. | |
good. Thank you very much for talking to us. Plan A is the only | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
plan for the UK. That was the message from George Osborne today, | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
Op one admitted and that Britain's economic recovery would be harder | :10:29. | :10:38. | |
and take longer than before. Yesterday, the Bank of England cut | :10:39. | :10:47. | |
its growth forecast from 1.8 % to 1.5 %. The main risks to the UK | :10:47. | :10:54. | |
economy came from abroad, including the euro-zone. Recoveries from this | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
kind of debt driven balanced Street during the recession would always | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
be difficult, but the whole world now realises that the huge overhang | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
of debt means that the economy -- the recovery will take longer and | :11:11. | :11:17. | |
be harder than anticipated. It is a dangerous time for the economy. We | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
should be realistic about that, and we should set our expectations | :11:23. | :11:30. | |
accordingly. George Osborne also highlighted the confidence -- the | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
lack of confidence in eurozone countries to pay off their debts | :11:33. | :11:39. | |
has spread. Today, the Italian finance minister called for tough | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
austerity measures over the next two years to balance Italy's budget | :11:44. | :11:53. | |
by 2013. Gavin Hewitt is in Naples. All day, Italians have been | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
scanning the papers and the wires trying to find out what they will | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
be experiencing in the future in terms of austerity measures. One | :12:03. | :12:12. | |
idea is to raise the retirement age for women. The big question | :12:12. | :12:22. | |
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hovering over Italy is this. From in order for Italy to tackle its | :12:23. | :12:33. | |
gigantic debt. The market is the financial corruption that Italians | :12:33. | :12:41. | |
fear. On the streets of Naples, everything is marked down. The | :12:41. | :12:49. | |
problem could -- the problem for the government is that the debt has | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
reached 1.8 trillion Euros. Silvio Berlusconi is having to examine a | :12:54. | :13:01. | |
range of austerity cuts. Take this resort just outside Naples. For | :13:01. | :13:11. | |
many, the time spent scanning the financial pages. The manager sums | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
up his frustration. Whatever they decide to do, they will never be | :13:16. | :13:22. | |
fired. They can steal, they can go on sick leave for as long as they | :13:22. | :13:32. | |
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want, and it is very difficult to fire them. For 10 years, Italy's | :13:33. | :13:42. | |
growth has been anaemic, but the debt in comparison to Germany has | :13:42. | :13:50. | |
sharply increased. This ship -- this shipyard has gone are idle. | :13:50. | :13:56. | |
The work has gone to Croatia. TRANSLATION: I feel humiliated. I | :13:56. | :14:03. | |
am losing the will to live. This woman understands only too well the | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
lack of growth. She is part of the 60 % of young people without work. | :14:08. | :14:14. | |
TRANSLATION: I live with my mother, and she is helping me. But it is | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
difficult because I and 25. I want to have a family, but I cannot, | :14:18. | :14:24. | |
because I don't have a job. southern England -- in southern | :14:24. | :14:31. | |
Italy, many of relied on the black economy. As regards future growth, | :14:31. | :14:38. | |
it is unlikely to get above 1%. So, the big fear remains that Italy | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
will not grow fast enough to bring down its debt. The markets fear | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
that as well. The European Central Bank is intervening, helping to | :14:47. | :14:52. | |
drive down Italy's borrowing costs. But that can only be a short-term | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
measure. It is a holiday time, and the Neapolitans are at the beach. | :14:57. | :15:06. | |
But a cultural revolution is threatened. Even if that is done, | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
with all the likely social tension, it is still difficult to see this | :15:11. | :15:20. | |
There is a lot of grim economic news here but it is not the whole | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
story. I am joined by President of the high-tech district here in | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
Naples. Tell me what you are experiencing here in terms of what | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
Italian companies are up to at the moment. The hi-tech is certainly | :15:34. | :15:40. | |
one of the biggest areas through the Italian economy, also the local | :15:40. | :15:48. | |
economy. Five years ago I was there in the east of Naples, now 65 | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
industries are connecting them, working with big projects in the | :15:52. | :16:01. | |
space sector. Invest that 45 million euros. I used seemed grows | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
amongst these high-tech companies? Is this something, if you like, the | :16:06. | :16:12. | |
green shoots in Italy? Sure. Sincerely, the high-tech is the | :16:12. | :16:22. | |
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first step to the attack and to create a big world to the crisis. | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
But it is important that the industries, the company's, | :16:26. | :16:32. | |
interconnect with each other and work with big projects, and in this | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
context, the support of the institution is very important. The | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
municipality, the province, the Union of enterprises. I was going | :16:41. | :16:47. | |
to ask, what do you see as the key in order for Italy to grow again, | :16:47. | :16:54. | |
bring down its debt? The key is the system, the networking, the | :16:54. | :17:00. | |
corporation. To do big projects together. And to have new ideas. To | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
believe in these big projects. And now there are 65 industries that | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
are connecting with each other in the aerospace sector, and they have | :17:10. | :17:15. | |
projects. In the past, Italy has had some world-beating companies. | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
You have fantastic designers in the country. What is the mood in the | :17:19. | :17:25. | |
business sector with all this focus upon Italy's debt? The new idea. | :17:25. | :17:30. | |
And also the skills. The two strength are the excellent | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
technology and the skills. In our high-tech world, there are 4,000 | :17:35. | :17:45. | |
work units, 18% degree. Thank you. Whilst all this focus has been here | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
on Italy, there is another country which is hugely important to the | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
eurozone crisis, and that is France. But shares, particularly in French | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
banks, were down today. And there are lots of stories about what may | :17:59. | :18:06. | |
be happening to French growth. I am joined by our Paris correspondent. | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
What are we likely to here about what is happening to French | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
economic growth? We have figures for the second quarter coming out | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
tomorrow, which I think we'll make pessimistic reading. We no growth | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
is slowing and this might compound the product -- problems we have | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
seen in the markets in the last two days. The French banks have | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
suffered. There has been lots of short selling and rumours flying | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
around the markets about the bank's' ability to meet financial | :18:35. | :18:41. | |
concerns. Exposure to countries like Italy and Greece. One of the | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
fundamental problems, apart from the fact that the markets do not | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
believe that governments are getting to grips with the sovereign | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
debt crisis, he is that there is just not a lot of trust about. Some | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
traders today are saying they feel it is like the run-up to the layman | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
crisis, banks not trusting each other and not lending to each other. | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
Some Asian banks today cutting lines of credit to French banks, or | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
at least considering it. Things are problematic for the French market. | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
Whereas the beggars in the past was on countries like Italy, suddenly | :19:13. | :19:19. | |
it has returned to France. -- whereas the focus in the past. | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
these bad rumours or is there substance behind them, that France | :19:23. | :19:31. | |
may itself be in trouble in this debt crisis? Banks like BNP Paribas | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
or have huge exposure to the sovereign debt crisis in Italy. | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
They are the third biggest bank there. It is true they will be war | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
-- watching the cause of the Government very closely. But also | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
there'll wild rumours flying around as well and then maybe some | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
speculation -- speculators that are benefiting from that. They have | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
called for an inquiry by the regulator and dismissed as rubbish | :19:57. | :20:04. | |
concerns that one bank, for example, may need a Government bail-out. But | :20:04. | :20:12. | |
it shows it is just in the market. Thank you. -- it shows the distrust. | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
It underlines how this eurozone crisis is spreading from the | :20:16. | :20:22. | |
peripheral countries to the main countries in the eurozone. | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
Some other news. Reports from Syrian opposition groups such as | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
Government forces are back in the city of Hama just a day after towns | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
were seen leaving their. Tanks and troop carriers were seen at Carrog | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
-- at Saraqeeb and further south at Laksir. | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
The gunman who entered the Estonian Ministry of Defence and took | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
hostages has died. There are conflicting reports about whether | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
he committed suicide or was killed by security forces. It is not known | :20:54. | :21:01. | |
what his motives were. The people he were holding our up unharmed. | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
China has ordered a temporary halt to the start of new high-speed rail | :21:05. | :21:12. | |
projects following a fatal crash several weeks ago. Bullet trains | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
will travel at reduced speeds well checks are carried out. | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
The drugs company Pfizer has begun making payments to families in | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
Northern Nigeria whose children died or were left disabled by | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
medical trials 15 years ago. The first families have now received | :21:30. | :21:37. | |
$175,000 each from a $35 million compensation fund. Let's speak to | :21:38. | :21:44. | |
our Nigerian correspondent. Explain the background to this case. This | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
all dates back to a meningitis outbreak in the northern part of | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
Nigeria in 1996. An horrific outbreak, 12,000 people died. | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
During that outbreak, Pfizer, the pharmaceuticals giant, had sent a | :21:58. | :22:02. | |
team into the city of Kano with the aim of carrying out a trial of a | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
new medicine they were testing called drove round. Those tests | :22:06. | :22:13. | |
took place in a hospital, involving 200 children. -- a drug called | :22:13. | :22:21. | |
Trovan. The children were given the established medicine and driven. In | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
the months that followed, it emerged 11 children had died and | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
many more had been disabled or disfigured. It is not men and | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
bitches contested as to whether it was directly as a result of those | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
trials but what we saw was a protracted legal process which then | :22:36. | :22:42. | |
took place with the family's in the trials sieving of Fraser both in | :22:42. | :22:49. | |
Nigeria and in the United States. In -- several years ago there was | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
an out-of-court settlement involving Pfizer and the | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
governments. No liability was accepted on the part of Pfizer but | :22:56. | :23:01. | |
they agreed to pay $30 million to establish a hospital in Kano state | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
and to establish this fund of $35 million which would act as | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
compensation for those people who had been effective in the trials. | :23:09. | :23:14. | |
That is what we have seen today take place in Kano. The first | :23:14. | :23:20. | |
groups are being paid at $175,000 each. They are the first four of | :23:20. | :23:26. | |
what could be up to 200 people being compensated. | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
The latest batch of UFO files released by the National Archives | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
in Britain contain sightings of mysterious lights over the | :23:35. | :23:40. | |
Glastonbury rock festival, a flying saucer over a town hall and | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
evidence from an RAF fighter controller. The Government files | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
detail how much the authorities did or did not deal with the reports. | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
Very few of the reports were investigated because civil servants | :23:52. | :23:58. | |
decided it would be a waste of time and money. Let's speak to the man | :23:58. | :24:04. | |
who used to run the British Government's UFO programme. What a | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
title, UEFA programme and the Ministry of Defence! Is it all | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
Chinese lanterns and trick photography? A lot of it was and | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
that is why in 2009 the MoD axed the UFO projects because it was | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
difficult to justify spending public money on it. How much money | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
was being spent? Very little because most of the things you need | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
to investigate properly, like checking radar tapes, getting the | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
photos and videos analysed, you already have that capability. | :24:36. | :24:42. | |
officially, the MoD always pooh- poohed UFO reports. Was that | :24:42. | :24:45. | |
reflecting what was going on inside your department audit some people | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
think there might be something in it? Interestingly, while the policy | :24:50. | :24:55. | |
with the media and the public was to downplay this issue and say it | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
is of no defence significance, these documents show that certainly | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
when we had more interesting sightings, reports from pilots, | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
military personnel, we did investigate, but Joe Public and the | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
Chinese lanterns, probably not. you believe in UFOs? I think there | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
is life out there. Or whether it is visiting, I do not know. I would | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
like to think so. What were the most credible reports you saw? | :25:21. | :25:29. | |
had a case from 1980 when something actually landed in a forest. The | :25:29. | :25:31. | |
defence intelligence staff found radiation levels significantly | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
higher than the background readings at this landing site, so something | :25:35. | :25:42. | |
happened. So what was the plausible reason given? There is no | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
explanation. We simply said this was one of the 5% of cases that we | :25:47. | :25:52. | |
could not explain, and rather like an unsolved crime, until and unless | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
some new information came in, it just sits on the file unexplained. | :25:57. | :26:06. | |
So officially, briefly, there is life out there? Probably! Thank you. | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
A quick reminder of our main news. The British Prime Minister at David | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
Cameron has told parliament that riots and looting of the kind that | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
spread across England in the past week will not be tolerated. He said | :26:18. | :26:23. | |
there is no excuse for what he called opportunist thugs. He blamed | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
a culture in which children were not draw right from wrong, rather | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
than poverty. The Italian finance minister has | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
told parliament that Government costs will be cut, state companies | :26:34. | :26:41. |