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This is BBC World News Today with me, Philippa Thomas. | :00:00. | :00:09. | |
And exclusive investigation into the British link to Al-Shabab. The BBC | :00:10. | :00:15. | |
uncovers the identity of around 50 Britons with links to the Al | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
Qaeda-affiliated group. What threat do these people post here and | :00:20. | :00:23. | |
abroad? The hunt goes on for the real | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
parents of the Roma girl named Maria, as it's revealed another girl | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
in Ireland does belong to her parents. | :00:32. | :00:35. | |
Also coming up - the Pope takes the shine out of the man dubbed the | :00:36. | :00:39. | |
Bishop of Bling. The German Catholic is suspended over allegations of | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
excessive spending. And christening for a future King - of private | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
services held in London for the three-month-old Prince George. | :00:50. | :01:04. | |
Hello and welcome. The BBC has established the | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
identities of 47 people from Britain who have links to the militant | :01:07. | :01:13. | |
organisation Al-Shabab. The group, based in Somalia, has claimed | :01:14. | :01:16. | |
responsibility for the Westgate massacre in neighbouring Kenya last | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
month. Lawyers for the family of one British member are investigating | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
claims he was killed in a raid involving British military | :01:27. | :01:32. | |
personnel. Al-Shabab is a militant organisation | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
with links to Al-Qaeda. In a propaganda video released last | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
week, there was praise Roger had is said to have travelled from the UK | :01:40. | :01:43. | |
to Somalia to fight and die Al-Shabab. Jihadistss. Among them, | :01:44. | :01:53. | |
this man. He talks about his roots in Tower Hamlets. The people of | :01:54. | :02:01. | |
Tower Hamlets, I call on you to come for jihad. The BBC has established | :02:02. | :02:10. | |
this man's real name. In 2008, he left the UK to travel to Somalia. He | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
fought with Al-Shabab for four years. In 2012 he was killed. His | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
death has been confirmed by the foreign office. In Tower Hamlets we | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
have spoken to a former schoolmates of the man. He was aware of his | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
transition from teenage gang member to political extremist. He does not | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
want to be identified. In gang culture, street cred is what gives | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
you self-worth. So for someone who has got lots of releases -- | :02:42. | :02:48. | |
religious zeal and passion, to go and fight on a battlefield that | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
would be the ultimate street cared. -- street cred. There are Somalia by | :02:55. | :03:06. | |
witnesses who identified those involved as British personnel. For | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
those reasons we think that further enquiries need to be made, the | :03:12. | :03:17. | |
family has lived omitted -- legitimate questions that need to be | :03:18. | :03:24. | |
answered. His former schoolmates as reflecting on his death. Many think | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
he wasted his life. What did he achieve? What did he get out of it | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
at the end of the day? Some of us think he was used. Many Britons who | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
go abroad as to how deeply Mac are never heard of again. -- as | :03:42. | :03:50. | |
jihadistss. Richard Barrett is a former head of | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
counterterrorism at MI6 and the UK. He is now senior vice president of | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
the Soufan private security group and joins me from New York. Welcome | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
to World News Today. We are looking at perhaps around 50 Somalis here in | :04:05. | :04:12. | |
Britain or British Somalis. We should not assume this is a network | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
or an organisation of course. Yes, I think people will go to Somalia | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
because they are in contact with someone else. Just to turn up would | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
be difficult, although theoretically you could go to Kenya and across the | :04:26. | :04:32. | |
border. Other areas like Syria, it would be more likely that people go | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
as individuals. When the security services are trying to uncover these | :04:39. | :04:46. | |
identities, how extensive is that surveillance likely to be? I think | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
the concern is what I these people going to do if they come back. | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
People going to Somalia, if they get involved in something like the | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
Westgate shopping centre should elect last month, that is serious. | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
There have been few examples of foreign fighters going to Somalia | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
and engaging in terrorism. In Westgate, I do not know they were | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
foreigners. In Syria there is more of a risk that those who have gone | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
there are -- may come back and cause problems in the UK. You have | :05:21. | :05:32. | |
extensive experience as the former coordinator of the UN's Al-Qaeda and | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
Taliban monitoring group. Either lessons from that work that can be | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
drawn or can be useful now as you look at the young men going to fight | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
in Syria? I think certainly, yes. Syria and Somalia are not the only | :05:50. | :05:58. | |
two fronts. There are other areas that attracts people from Europe and | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
the UK. The things that we learned is that if you can keep sharing | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
information with your colleagues, you can make an assessment if they | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
will be a problem when they come back. It is quite time-consuming and | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
difficult, I have to say. I wanted to ask you how much further it goes | :06:19. | :06:24. | |
than online surveillance. Our families, educational institutions, | :06:25. | :06:33. | |
mosques, IV tractors wealth West remark -- are the tract as well | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
There is a lot lot of online surveillance that can be done. | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
Ultimately, I think any successful counterterrorism policy has engaged | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
the local community. It is the people in the local community in -- | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
that'll know if someone has gone off to fight somewhere. And if they will | :06:56. | :07:04. | |
pursue a political agenda in their home country. Goods relations and | :07:05. | :07:12. | |
good interaction with the schools and mosques, that is the way | :07:13. | :07:20. | |
forward. Thank you for joining us. We are going to bring you some | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
breaking news, the German authorities say the suspect that US | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
intelligence agencies may have been spying on Chancellor | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
Anglo-American's mobile phone calls. She has spoken to President Obama | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
asking for immediate clarification about what has happened or what | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
could still be happening. Let's get some more from our correspondent who | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
is in Washington. We are just getting this news through. What more | :07:48. | :07:52. | |
can you tell us? The news has come from Merlin, the German Chancellor | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
rang President Obama to complain about these reports, that her mobile | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
phone has been eavesdropped upon by the National Security Agency. It is | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
not sure where these allegations have come from, there is a strong | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
suspicion that it has come from a German magazine that has been | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
publishing a lot of these revelations. She told President | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
Obama that she wanted immediate clarification. That news broke as | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
the White House was holding its daily briefing. Mr Carney was asked | :08:29. | :08:37. | |
why -- what the response was. He -- she said that President Obama | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
assured them that they are not monitoring her mobile phone. When | :08:43. | :08:47. | |
asked if some of her communications had been intercepted as part of a | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
broader sweep, he did not answer that question. This comes on the | :08:52. | :08:59. | |
back of some French anger about diplomats communications being | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
intercepted. There is some European touchiness now about the NSA or | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
other US authorities playing fast and loose with their privacy? There | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
is. There is some Latin American touchiness as well. Germany adds to | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
this that started with France. President Obama had a conversation | :09:18. | :09:27. | |
with the French pack -- president. He spoke about this allegation that | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
was published on the front page of a local newspaper. It included not | :09:34. | :09:48. | |
only people involved in terrorist activities as. By the NSA, but those | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
in the political community. There have been angry complaints as well | :09:54. | :10:00. | |
from Mexico and Brazil, the former Mexican president was believed to | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
have been eavesdropped upon. So too was the Brazilian president. She | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
actually cancelled a trip to Washington as a result and lectured | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
America. There really is a very serious diplomatic backlash now | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
emerging because of these revelations. Thank you very much. | :10:20. | :10:27. | |
Italy is to push for an overhaul of Europe's asylum laws when a meeting | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
of the European Council gets underway tomorrow. Italy is a key | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
destination for migrants crossing the Mediterranean and all this week | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
we have been telling some of their stories. Reports of trace the path | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
through North Africa and the danger is generally across the | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
Mediterranean to ports such as Lampedusa and then further north | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
will stop but where do they end up? In 2012 most asylum applications | :10:54. | :10:55. | |
were received in Germany and France was reading just behind. The BBC's | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
Chris Morris has been to Stockholm to find out why. | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
At the end of a long journey, new arrivals in Sweden from Syria. This | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
is a migrant reception centre where fingerprints taken and asylum claims | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
are assessed. Numbers having creased dramatically since Sweden announced | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
last month Syrians seeking asylum would be given permanent rights of | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
residence. No other EU country offers that. We are just looking for | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
somewhere safe and the only safe place in Sweden. I decided to leave | :11:31. | :11:37. | |
Syria because it is becoming more dangerous. This man got here on | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
Sunday after a two-week journey from Syria via Turkey and Greece. It was | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
not cheap. He wants to remain anonymous as he waits for a news | :11:49. | :11:53. | |
about his family. After two months they will give me a presidential -- | :11:54. | :12:00. | |
residential permit. After that I can apply for my family full top after | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
two months they will be here. And then you start a whole new life in | :12:06. | :12:12. | |
Sweden? Yes, hopefully. We are looking for peace and this is a | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
peaceful country full. Anyone getting here and gaining permanent | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
residents can bring their dependents officially from Syria, making Sweden | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
Europe's most sought-after destination. For us when we take the | :12:25. | :12:31. | |
decision it is legal. It is easy if you want children to reunite with | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
their parents, it is a moral question, so I think there is a | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
great need for European solidarity as well. At the Swedish parliament | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
there is strong backing for this generous policy. But from a far | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
right party, there is criticism We think it is Riddick jewellers. No | :12:52. | :12:57. | |
conflict is permanent. -- ridiculous. This is totally crazy. | :12:58. | :13:06. | |
But Syrians are starting to put down Swedish roots. Here in learning the | :13:07. | :13:13. | |
language at a local community centre. There are still huge | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
concerns about family back home Understandably only few are willing | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
to be filmed. This man is worried about is the own sake, hoping soon | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
to bring her to safety. If we get married, I think she will come here. | :13:29. | :13:39. | |
That is your plan? Yes. Sweden has a long tradition of offering asylum | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
and it has already taken in more Syrian refugees than any other | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
country in the EU full up when you look at the total numbers that have | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
reached Europe, it is little more than a drop in the ocean. There will | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
be many more to come and Europe needs a policy to deal with them. | :13:56. | :14:05. | |
We can speak to EU home affairs spokesman Michele Cercone who joins | :14:06. | :14:08. | |
us now from Brussels. Thank you for being with us. It is the eve of an | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
important summit and do you think we will see the start of a change in | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
policy towards illegal migrants and asylum seekers? We hope that from | :14:17. | :14:27. | |
the council we will see a clear signal for EU solidarity and | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
support. Of course the European Council is the gathering of EU | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
leaders and they are usually there for giving political input. So I do | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
not think it will be expected, concrete or detailed measure | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
decisions. But we hope that the political input would be to words | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
direction that would be commissioned has already pointed out, especially | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
the more surveillance to save lives in the Mediterranean. And more | :14:58. | :15:06. | |
dialogue and cooperation with countries of origin and transit of | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
the migrants and silence seekers that would on one hand better fight | :15:10. | :15:15. | |
the smugglers behind these deadly journeys and to also open up more | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
channels for regular migrations -- asylum seekers. You talk about the | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
Borders agency, Frontex, it has seen its budget slashed in the last two | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
years. Is that technology is being our mistake? We have been very clear | :15:31. | :15:37. | |
in the fact that there were more and more requests for Frontex to help | :15:38. | :15:45. | |
and support member states. This means that if the EU is asking the | :15:46. | :15:55. | |
European commission to do more, we will reiterate our request to all | :15:56. | :16:03. | |
member states at the next council in the beginning of December to make | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
resources available for this big operation that could prevent deaths | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
and the Mediterranean and could save many lives. There has been a | :16:16. | :16:22. | |
powerful statement from the Italian prime ministers this week, saying | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
that the European Union's immigration policies are not | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
adequate. Do you think that among all the leaders, there is a | :16:33. | :16:35. | |
recognition that there should be more of a share of the burden, | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
taking the burden from countries like Italy, Greece and Malta to ? | :16:40. | :16:52. | |
Southern countries are under the pressure of immigration. They need | :16:53. | :17:00. | |
to take management of their borders. If they talk about EU policies, we | :17:01. | :17:06. | |
can say that as for asylum, we have the just defined and agreed a new | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
common European system that aims at giving refuge -- refugees and asylum | :17:12. | :17:23. | |
a uniform approach. At the same time, we certainly have to do more | :17:24. | :17:32. | |
to try and define a common migration Odyssey, which is the area where | :17:33. | :17:41. | |
more is to be done. Thank you. Almost inevitably, he has been named | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
the Bishop of Bling. The leading Catholic Church men who racked up a | :17:47. | :17:54. | |
bill in Germany. Franz-Peter Tebartz van Elst spent $20,000 on a bust of | :17:55. | :18:10. | |
and $34,000 on a conference table. In Germany, they call him the Bishop | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
of Bling or sometimes the Bishop of luxury. Franz-Peter Tebartz van Elst | :18:15. | :18:21. | |
is accused of spending more than 31 million euros on renovating his | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
official residence. Now Pope Francis has stepped in. The tone of the new | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
papacy is humility and reaching out to the poor and the German bishop | :18:34. | :18:41. | |
has fallen foul of that. The Vatican spokesman says in the dioceses at | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
the present time, a situation has been created web Bishop Franz-Peter | :18:48. | :18:53. | |
Tebartz van Elst is not able to carry out his Episcopal Ministry. | :18:54. | :18:59. | |
The length of the suspension has not been made public. In Germany, many | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
Catholics issue that the issue of Limburg will not return to his post | :19:04. | :19:10. | |
will stop outside the cathedral people expect some sad is action | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
that he had been suspended. -- some satisfaction. This man said that he | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
is glad there was a decision and some calm had returned. He said the | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
bishop cannot return, too much damage had been done. He said that | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
he has done too much damage here, everyone agreed. | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
The Catholic Church has been rocked by scandal before, due to | :19:41. | :19:50. | |
allegations of sexual abuse. Franz-Peter Tebartz van Elst has | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
denied any wrongdoing but his spending does not fit in under the | :19:58. | :20:03. | |
austerity of the new Pope and of the world as is a whole. | :20:04. | :20:14. | |
DNA results have confirmed that a girl taken from a Roma couple in | :20:15. | :20:24. | |
Dublin is their daughter, whereas the girl named Maria taken from | :20:25. | :20:31. | |
another couple in Greece is not This has raised issues of missing | :20:32. | :20:41. | |
children but also of anti-Roma prejudice. What is your view of what | :20:42. | :20:51. | |
is happening in Europe? At the European Roma Rights Centre, | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
we are concerned at the way this is being reported. We are concerned | :20:55. | :20:58. | |
that one individual case, we don't even know the facts yet is being | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
used to tarnish the entire Roma community. What assumptions are | :21:03. | :21:11. | |
being wrongly or prematurely made? These are age-old assumptions about | :21:12. | :21:13. | |
the way Roma families work, about the fact that... The idea that Roma | :21:14. | :21:22. | |
children trafficked their own Jordan -- their own children but there is | :21:23. | :21:29. | |
never a direct link between ethnicity and criminality. When you | :21:30. | :21:36. | |
look at the idea that a child is found with people who make made up | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
not be their own parents, is it contrary to the case that children | :21:43. | :21:47. | |
go and stay with friends and extended family? Are the | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
explanations that are more forthcoming to you? This is true in | :21:52. | :22:00. | |
any society. In all societies. But they Roma society can be more | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
mobile. That may be the case will stop but there is nothing specific | :22:06. | :22:10. | |
about how the Roma treat their Jordan. They are the same as | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
everyone else and they find solutions for looking after | :22:15. | :22:17. | |
children. It is true that in Roma society there is a very strong | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
importance placed on the family Family is key. Certainly, a lot of | :22:23. | :22:32. | |
Roma people in Europe are in dire conditions and family is what helped | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
keep them going. It is the same for any community. When a child needs to | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
be looked after, the community steps in. We have heard about Roma in | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
Greece and Ireland in recent days but you are in touch with | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
communities across Europe. Is there a sense of fear now? There is. What | :22:50. | :22:55. | |
we are hearing frightening stories. We have heard about one case in | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
Serbia where there were skinheads threatening a family, saying they | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
have a child that did not look like them. They would take them away We | :23:07. | :23:14. | |
have heard of a right-wing group in Germany, saying that the children | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
should be taken away. It is not necessary. This taking one case and | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
generalising seems to be something that is quite specific to the Roma | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
community. It is unfair and puts people in fear that they will not be | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
able to continue to lead their family lives. Thank you. | :23:31. | :23:37. | |
Let us take a look at another news story. Russian news agency have | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
reported that parity judges have been dropped against 30 Greenpeace | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
activists arrested after protesting against oil drilling in the Arctic. | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
The group will instead face the less serious charge of hooliganism. | :23:54. | :24:03. | |
He is set to spend a lot of his life attending official ceremonies and | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
today he attended his first. It was the christening of Prince George at | :24:07. | :24:15. | |
St James's Palace in London. He is three months and one-day-old. | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
It was his big day. He first so many. Not that will remember | :24:20. | :24:22. | |
anything. Around the third in line to the throne were the second in | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
line to the throne, his father Prince William. The first in line to | :24:27. | :24:36. | |
the throne, Prince Charles. And the Queen. A proud great-grandmother | :24:37. | :24:44. | |
dressed in blue. Catherine's family were also there, Michael and Karen | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
Middleton and Pippa Middleton and James Middleton. There were seven | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
godparents, only one from William's family, Zara Tindall. Two | :24:56. | :25:02. | |
significant choices, the man on the right here, a former SAS officer who | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
became William's private secondary in 2005 and two has been a source of | :25:08. | :25:15. | |
valuable advice. And the patron of a child breathe and charity and a | :25:16. | :25:23. | |
friend of Princess Diana, a key choice for William. | :25:24. | :25:34. | |
It was here that Diana's Coffin rested before her burial. The | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
service is taking place behind those windows and is now entirely private. | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
There will be no visual record of it at all. | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
After the service, the Queen led the principal guests to another room so | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
photographs could be taken. They will be released tomorrow night As | :25:53. | :25:55. | |
for George, he seems to be taking it all very calmly, dressed in a | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
replica of a christening gown using the reign of Queen Victoria, a young | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
prince who will take the monarchy on towards the 22nd century. | :26:05. | :26:13. | |
Just remind you of our breaking news. The White House says President | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
Obama has told the German Chancellor Angela Merkel that the Americans are | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
not monitoring her communications. The German government had earlier | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
said it suspected US intelligence agencies could have been spying on | :26:25. | :26:31. | |
her mobile phone calls. Mrs Merkel spoke to President Obama today and | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
amounted an explosion. That is all from us. Next, the weather. Goodbye. | :26:36. | :26:52. | |
Hello there. A lot calmer tonight, compared to last night. Clear spells | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
for most places, the winds continuing to die down. That means | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
there will be one or two mist and fog patches. The stormy conditions | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
from last night caused by an area of low pressure - that is now clearing | :27:06. | :27:08. | |
away. But there is another load looking to the south-west, which | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
will bring more wet and windy weather for Friday. But for | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
Thursday, most places are dry and bright. Still blustery through the | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
night and during the morning in the north of Scotland with the odd | :27:19. | :27:21. | |
scattered shower. More cloud in the South and the West and we could see | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
a few showers here and there. But for most places, it will be a dry | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
and bright day. A little bit of early mist and fog but that should | :27:30. | :27:32. | |
clear away. And then with lightish winds, temperatures by the afternoon | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
up to a pleasant 13 to 15 degrees. There | :27:37. | :27:37. |