0:00:28 > 0:00:33Welcome to another far-reaching pilgrimage by the Antiques Roadshow.
0:00:33 > 0:00:36In fact, for this series we may go further than we've ever gone before.
0:00:36 > 0:00:41For openers, we've come to Lichfield in Staffordshire,
0:00:41 > 0:00:46where 7th-century pilgrims used to come looking for miracles at the shrine of St Chad.
0:00:52 > 0:00:54The church of St Chad is long gone.
0:00:54 > 0:01:02In its place, a pretty miraculous building - the only English medieval cathedral with three spires.
0:01:02 > 0:01:04This is where we're doing our show.
0:01:07 > 0:01:12The Gothic nave is being transformed as we carefully install our state-of-the-art technology,
0:01:12 > 0:01:16but Lichfield Cathedral has been through worse ordeals than this.
0:01:18 > 0:01:24Its commanding position and massive stonework made it a perfect fortress, and in the Civil War,
0:01:24 > 0:01:28it held the record for sieges, three of them altogether.
0:01:36 > 0:01:40On 2nd March 1643, the Royalists were in charge
0:01:40 > 0:01:45and a young fellow called John Dyott, known as "Dumb Dyott",
0:01:45 > 0:01:52stood here, on the central spire, carrying a duck gun loaded with lead, taken from the cathedral roof.
0:01:52 > 0:01:55In his sights, in the street a quarter of a mile away,
0:01:55 > 0:01:57was a high-ranking Parliamentarian, Lord Brooke.
0:01:57 > 0:02:00- Dyott pulled the trigger. - GUNSHOT
0:02:00 > 0:02:04To everyone's amazement, his aim was deadly accurate.
0:02:04 > 0:02:07Lord Brooke was shot through the eye and killed.
0:02:07 > 0:02:09"Dumb Dyott" had had the last word.
0:02:09 > 0:02:12The cathedral was a real casualty of war
0:02:12 > 0:02:18and when the Parliamentarians took over in 1646, they showed little respect for the building,
0:02:18 > 0:02:21even stabling their horses in the nave.
0:02:24 > 0:02:29One of the clerics who worked here in the cathedral library anticipated the mayhem,
0:02:29 > 0:02:35and smuggled out the Lichfield Gospels, putting them in the care of the Duchess of Somerset.
0:02:35 > 0:02:41She returned them safely, with 1,000 books from her collection, to replace those that were destroyed.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44One of the stars of the library's collection
0:02:44 > 0:02:48is a first edition by Lichfield's famous son, Samuel Johnson.
0:02:48 > 0:02:51His momentous Dictionary Of The English Language
0:02:51 > 0:02:55has just celebrated its 250th birthday.
0:02:55 > 0:03:00Samuel Johnson was a man of many words and very definite opinions.
0:03:00 > 0:03:07He once wrote, "The pleasure of expecting enjoyment is often greater than that of obtaining it."
0:03:07 > 0:03:11Let's hope that doesn't apply to today's Roadshow!
0:03:12 > 0:03:19The stained glass windows here at Lichfield Cathedral are replicated in the fantastic colourful costumes
0:03:19 > 0:03:24of this Punch and Judy set that you've brought in. Tell me where they came from.
0:03:24 > 0:03:29- I presume that they must be a family inheritance.- No. No, they weren't.
0:03:29 > 0:03:34I started collecting toys when my house was open to the public,
0:03:34 > 0:03:37and we had a little house in Chelsea
0:03:37 > 0:03:42and I was looking round in the World's End.
0:03:42 > 0:03:48- I know.- And I found this antique shop there and saw these puppets
0:03:48 > 0:03:53and thought, "Oh, I must have those for the collection. I've got nothing like that."
0:03:53 > 0:03:55And so I went in and bought them.
0:03:55 > 0:03:59Well, they are the most exciting group, I have to say.
0:03:59 > 0:04:05The history of Punch and Judy, of course, goes back to the Teatro del Arte,
0:04:05 > 0:04:08the Italian tradition of theatrical entertainers,
0:04:08 > 0:04:13and these travelling puppeteers travelled all through France
0:04:13 > 0:04:18and into England, and brought with them the Punch, or the Punchinello character,
0:04:18 > 0:04:23and this set, I think, is from the middle of the 19th century,
0:04:23 > 0:04:25with these wonderful characters.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28On the far right, we have the policeman.
0:04:28 > 0:04:31We have Punch and his wife Judy
0:04:31 > 0:04:35with a rather... a rather strange-looking baby.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38Now who is this?
0:04:38 > 0:04:44- Let me just have a look at him, because he is, I think, one of the most exciting characters.- Yes.
0:04:44 > 0:04:51And all these little figures have a label on there, in very neat writing, and this says "Pantaloon".
0:04:51 > 0:04:56So this is the character Pantaloon, who, of course, we don't see in present-day Punch and Judy shows.
0:04:56 > 0:05:02- But his face is so extraordinary, isn't it?- Yes. Do you think they're carved wood?
0:05:02 > 0:05:09- They are carved wood, then covered with a very thin layer of whiting or gesso, which softens the edges.- Yes.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12It creates a good grounding then for the paint.
0:05:12 > 0:05:19- So here we have Mr Pantaloon. Now, who's he? He looks as if he's the sort of...- ..Is he the beadle?
0:05:19 > 0:05:23- The beadle, exactly! Almost Dickensian, isn't he? - Looking very official, yes.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26I've seen a lot of Punch and Judy sets,
0:05:26 > 0:05:31but these have what I can only describe as an X factor.
0:05:31 > 0:05:37It's something to do with the quality of the carving, and I think also the quality of the painting,
0:05:37 > 0:05:42the costume, and also, one has to say, their condition.
0:05:42 > 0:05:46It looks to me as if they've never, ever been used.
0:05:46 > 0:05:53Well, when I bought them, they were in a little travelling... a wooden suitcase with a handle,
0:05:53 > 0:05:58so obviously they were meant to be used, but I've had them for about 50 years
0:05:58 > 0:06:03- and so they've been in a glass case all that time. - And you've never been tempted...
0:06:03 > 0:06:08- No..- ..to put your hand up and give them a go?- I haven't tried.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12Think back 50 years. How much do you think you would have paid for them?
0:06:12 > 0:06:16I don't know. It wouldn't have been a great deal.
0:06:16 > 0:06:21- 50 years ago, they wouldn't have been valued at a great deal. - No.- Nobody appreciated them.
0:06:21 > 0:06:25So what are they worth now? I think that they would be worth...
0:06:25 > 0:06:28It must be £5,000.
0:06:28 > 0:06:33I mean, they are SO unusual. They are SO perfect.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37And, best of all, they're such fun.
0:06:37 > 0:06:41"Please treat this book with care when you look through it. Thank you."
0:06:41 > 0:06:46- So who put this in here?- That was me. I was a primary school teacher.
0:06:46 > 0:06:48This book was on display as a resource.
0:06:48 > 0:06:54Well, I have to say you shouldn't stick it in, a note in like this, with Blu-tac.
0:06:54 > 0:07:00It stains the book and it really isn't very good for it. I'd take that out after we've finished.
0:07:00 > 0:07:06But, anyway, having smacked you for that, this is the most fantastic album I think I've seen, of scraps,
0:07:06 > 0:07:09in a very long time. Where did you get it from?
0:07:09 > 0:07:16This album belonged, originally, to my wife's great aunts, who lived in the Black Country,
0:07:16 > 0:07:20born in the 1870s and died in the 1960s.
0:07:20 > 0:07:25- So they were maiden aunts?- Yes. - Awfully fashionable. - Yes.- And what did they do?
0:07:25 > 0:07:31- They were both in service at various houses throughout the country. - What, big houses?- Yes.
0:07:31 > 0:07:36- So you could imagine them climbing the stairs to their garrets at night...- Absolutely.
0:07:36 > 0:07:40..and sticking the scraps in. It's meticulous, isn't it?
0:07:40 > 0:07:43- I mean, this is Albert Victor. Albert Victor...- Yes.
0:07:43 > 0:07:45..who was supposed to...
0:07:45 > 0:07:47Some people believed that he was Jack the Ripper.
0:07:47 > 0:07:50- I see.- I don't think he was clever enough for that.
0:07:50 > 0:07:55And he was engaged to Princess Mary of Teck, as she was then,
0:07:55 > 0:07:56and he died,
0:07:56 > 0:08:02and so Queen Mary conveniently slipped off and married his brother...
0:08:02 > 0:08:04- Oh, right.- ..who became George V.
0:08:04 > 0:08:06That's a bit of history I wasn't aware of.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09You've got virtually the whole royalty of Europe here.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13- Yes.- The royalty of Europe were all related to Queen Victoria.- Yes.
0:08:13 > 0:08:20- Oh, and this one, I like this one. - That's one of our favourites. - Wonderful Victorian sentimentality!
0:08:20 > 0:08:24- Here's the death of the Prince Consort at Buckingham Palace.- Right.
0:08:24 > 0:08:28And there's Queen Victoria with her Prime Minister, Disraeli.
0:08:28 > 0:08:34- And it goes on and on and on. - On the old Empire, as it would have been then.- The old Empire.
0:08:34 > 0:08:41Absolutely fantastic! It's an exceptional album, and I suppose you want me to value it?
0:08:41 > 0:08:48- Um, it's been rebound at some stage with this sort of covering. - Yes.- Take the label out.- Yes!
0:08:48 > 0:08:54You've got an album that's worth the best part of, what, £800 to £1,000.
0:08:54 > 0:08:56It's fantastic.
0:08:56 > 0:09:01- Can I be very rude and ask you how old you are?- 82.
0:09:01 > 0:09:07- 82?- Next month.- Well, do you know, this is just a little bit older than you are. Not much.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10It was probably made around 1900, 1910.
0:09:10 > 0:09:13And can you tell me anything about the history?
0:09:13 > 0:09:18Well, I was a teenager, a very young teenager, when my mother came in with it.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20She was one that went round antique shops.
0:09:20 > 0:09:25- Ah!- She picked it up. That's all I can tell you. I didn't like it.
0:09:25 > 0:09:30I voiced my opinion when she brought it in, but she took no notice.
0:09:30 > 0:09:32And so you never liked it, but you've kept it?
0:09:32 > 0:09:36I like it now. When the china's in, it looks lovely.
0:09:36 > 0:09:41- What about your daughters? ..What do you think of it? - Well, I don't really like it.
0:09:41 > 0:09:45It stood in our front room when we were small children
0:09:45 > 0:09:50and we weren't allowed to play there for fear that we did some damage.
0:09:50 > 0:09:55So it's got a sense of foreboding, really, for me and, in fact, this is probably the closest I've ever stood.
0:09:55 > 0:09:59- I think I'm going to move slightly away from it.- And what about you?
0:09:59 > 0:10:04I think it's pretty, I've always liked it, actually. It's exquisite.
0:10:04 > 0:10:09So it's one for and one against, which is an interesting situation.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12It's from the beginning of the century, Art Nouveau.
0:10:12 > 0:10:16It's very English Art Nouveau. It's quite restrained.
0:10:16 > 0:10:21This has little details like this overhanging eave or cornice, which is quite flat.
0:10:21 > 0:10:26That's absolutely characteristic of the period in England, and so are these little inlays,
0:10:26 > 0:10:33copper and pewter, or copper and tin, and this delightful wood inlay, and brass and pewter at the base.
0:10:33 > 0:10:38Quite interesting. Usually you find this sort of cabinet in mahogany,
0:10:38 > 0:10:42whereas this one is satinwood, which gives it that lovely golden colour.
0:10:42 > 0:10:45At the top, at the back, there is a registration mark,
0:10:45 > 0:10:49which means that, although I can't see any maker's name,
0:10:49 > 0:10:55we could probably look up in the patent number, the register, and find out when it was registered
0:10:55 > 0:10:58and who registered the design, who made this piece.
0:10:58 > 0:11:02Often having a maker will increase the value.
0:11:02 > 0:11:03Value.
0:11:03 > 0:11:07Well, there are one or two little areas of damage,
0:11:07 > 0:11:12but I would think £1,200 to £1,500.
0:11:12 > 0:11:15So does that change your feelings about it at all?
0:11:15 > 0:11:17No, I still like it.
0:11:17 > 0:11:20I like it a bit more, but not a lot.
0:11:20 > 0:11:22Excellent.
0:11:22 > 0:11:26Well, this bear belonged to my husband's great aunt, Mollie.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30Her husband was called Selwyn, and she always called him "Jimmy".
0:11:30 > 0:11:35- She always said, "Please look after Jimmy's bear."- Look at him. Look at those yellow eyes.
0:11:35 > 0:11:41This is a very special bear. I see so many on the Roadshow, and they're usually the expensive Steiff ones,
0:11:41 > 0:11:48which are the German ones, so it's wonderful for me to find an English one that is really special.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51He's by JK Farnell, John Kirby Farnell.
0:11:51 > 0:11:57I think he's more likely to be about 1910, and his fur is very special
0:11:57 > 0:12:03because it's silvery, so it's not an ordinary bear colour, and it's very collectable.
0:12:03 > 0:12:08And he's stuffed with the usual... what they always call "sawdust" but it's not.
0:12:08 > 0:12:10It's thin strips of lime wood.
0:12:10 > 0:12:17- Anyway, I'm going to get to a very important point...- He used to growl, can I just say? He really growled!
0:12:17 > 0:12:21- And he no longer wants to...- No! - So have you any idea...?
0:12:21 > 0:12:28I haven't a clue. I'm not interested, other than to tell my children, "Look after him!" and get him insured.
0:12:28 > 0:12:32- Maybe we should say that, so that they will look after him.- Yes, yes.
0:12:32 > 0:12:35And for insurance, you should insure him for £5,000.
0:12:38 > 0:12:40You are...
0:12:40 > 0:12:45Good grief! Well, he will be insured, because he's not going anywhere.
0:12:45 > 0:12:50- Thank you so much.- I'm glad to hear it.- Gosh! He's such a dear bear.
0:12:50 > 0:12:53- Oh, you are...- I am, actually. - You're going to make me cry now.
0:12:56 > 0:13:03This has been in the family as long as I have, and it's said to come from Howard Carter's estate.
0:13:03 > 0:13:06We understand that it came out of Tutankhamun's tomb.
0:13:06 > 0:13:11My grandmother knew Howard Carter and when his estate was sold up,
0:13:11 > 0:13:15she went to the auction and bought this artefact.
0:13:15 > 0:13:16And that was when?
0:13:16 > 0:13:19Erm...
0:13:19 > 0:13:221939, I think, that sort of time.
0:13:22 > 0:13:25- Which squares perfectly with the base.- Yes.
0:13:25 > 0:13:29That is a typical base that you'd find on a 1930s bronze and ivory figure,
0:13:29 > 0:13:33- but here we have a statue of a much more ancient gentleman.- Right.
0:13:33 > 0:13:39- You think that it may have come out of the tomb of Tutankhamun? - Yes, that's the family history.
0:13:39 > 0:13:43- Stylistically, it's much later... - Right.- ..than Tutankhamun.
0:13:43 > 0:13:48- Yeah.- This is probably, maybe getting on for 1,000 years later.- Right.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51Getting on to 600 BC or thereabouts.
0:13:51 > 0:13:57But the interesting and nice link with it is that it is actually a statue of the god Amun...
0:13:57 > 0:14:02- Right.- ..after whom Tutankhamun is named.- Right, really?
0:14:02 > 0:14:06He was originally named Tutankhaten,
0:14:06 > 0:14:11- but the religion changed and Amun became top dog.- Right.- That's him.
0:14:11 > 0:14:16So maybe Carter had a penchant for the god
0:14:16 > 0:14:19after whom his most famous tomb was named, and there he is.
0:14:19 > 0:14:26He's rather spectacular. Bronze with beautiful details - look at that wonderful plaited beard of his.
0:14:26 > 0:14:32He would have been holding a flail, I think, and it is a very, very nice object.
0:14:32 > 0:14:38The problem with valuing this is not what it is, when it was made - we know that - but the provenance.
0:14:38 > 0:14:43It belonged to one of the most famous Egyptologists of the 20th century,
0:14:43 > 0:14:50the man who opened the tomb of King Tut. That gives it a kick extra. How big is that kick? I don't know.
0:14:50 > 0:14:52- Yeah.- Let us say,
0:14:52 > 0:14:56conservatively, it's probably worth somewhere in the region
0:14:56 > 0:15:02- of £2,000, £3,000.- Lovely. That's very nice. Thank you for telling me that.
0:15:03 > 0:15:06Now this is a heroic piece, isn't it?
0:15:06 > 0:15:11- I think that's the best way of describing it.- Yes. - What do you know about it?
0:15:11 > 0:15:15I believe the model was an airman in the Second World War, a pilot.
0:15:15 > 0:15:17And it's by Dora Gordine.
0:15:17 > 0:15:19Gordine, yes.
0:15:19 > 0:15:24When I started to look into the background and everything,
0:15:24 > 0:15:30I found later on, about the house that she'd given to, with a lot of these things,
0:15:30 > 0:15:35- to the University of Kingston, I think it is.- Yes.
0:15:35 > 0:15:42I took myself off to London and that's how I realised I'd got something I didn't know about.
0:15:42 > 0:15:46Yes. But you must have known it was a good thing. It's very powerful.
0:15:46 > 0:15:49Well, we liked it. My husband liked it very much.
0:15:49 > 0:15:55- And when was it produced? - About 1942. And there are...
0:15:55 > 0:15:59- There is an identical one in that house in Kingston. - That's interesting.
0:15:59 > 0:16:02You can see it's clearly signed by Dora Gordine.
0:16:02 > 0:16:06- Yes.- And then it's actually got number 4.- 4 of 6.
0:16:06 > 0:16:09Quite a small edition for bronzes, it was often nine.
0:16:09 > 0:16:10Dora Gordine, you'll probably know,
0:16:10 > 0:16:14- born in Petersburg of a Russian mother and a Scottish father.- Yes.
0:16:14 > 0:16:18She brings to English sculpture between the wars,
0:16:18 > 0:16:23a really quite an exotic feel, I think, a new influence.
0:16:23 > 0:16:29It's not just from Russia and it's not just from Singapore, where she later spent some time.
0:16:29 > 0:16:34I think his features are slightly Asiatic, actually, don't you think?
0:16:34 > 0:16:39- The way the eyebrows are done, there's a slightly Asiatic feel to the face.- Yes, I agree, yes.
0:16:39 > 0:16:43I wondered whether she picked that up in Singapore, where she went with her first husband.
0:16:43 > 0:16:48At any rate, the other thing she did was spend time in Paris,
0:16:48 > 0:16:52where she met the French sculptor, Aristide Maillol.
0:16:52 > 0:16:57Now, he is quite clearly a strong influence on this sculpture, I think, because he went in for
0:16:57 > 0:17:03this very heroic style, very far apart from what Rodin was doing at the same time,
0:17:03 > 0:17:05which is very flowing and very human.
0:17:05 > 0:17:10You'd expect that, actually, thinking about it, of an airman in the Second World War,
0:17:10 > 0:17:14- because they did save the country, the Battle of Britain.- Absolutely.
0:17:14 > 0:17:20- So there's an appropriateness to the stance, to the figure. This is the personification of the hero.- Yes.
0:17:20 > 0:17:23Have you had it valued?
0:17:23 > 0:17:27I was told, when I went, um, to Kingston,
0:17:27 > 0:17:30that it was not possible to value him
0:17:30 > 0:17:34because one had never come on the market before.
0:17:34 > 0:17:38- There hasn't been one on the market. - And I don't think still there has.
0:17:38 > 0:17:44But there is, on the other hand, a big resurgence of interest in the art of this period.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47Um...and particularly the sculpture of this style.
0:17:47 > 0:17:51It should command a price about £6,000 retail,
0:17:51 > 0:17:56- but it's not something you'll be selling, I imagine. - I would not sell it, no.
0:17:56 > 0:17:58We always rather liked him.
0:17:58 > 0:18:04- Where he is at home, it's a very, very austere background, you know.- Suits it quite well.
0:18:04 > 0:18:08He's not going to come out so well here!
0:18:10 > 0:18:13Time to be amazed by this week's dedicated collector.
0:18:13 > 0:18:19Without show business, there is no business for Fred Mead because he collects theatrical memorabilia.
0:18:19 > 0:18:23- In fact, not so much collect as amass.- We do, Michael.
0:18:23 > 0:18:27We have 6,000 items at home, covering most of the performing arts.
0:18:27 > 0:18:29And all your life you've been collecting?
0:18:29 > 0:18:35I've been collecting since I've been about 11 when I first saw a theatre programme that my parents took me to.
0:18:35 > 0:18:39- Has it been difficult to find these pieces?- Some are quite rare.
0:18:39 > 0:18:42Most come from dealers or specialist collectors.
0:18:42 > 0:18:46Some of the items, in fact, come from actors themselves,
0:18:46 > 0:18:50because if you write a nice letter, you may be lucky to get a souvenir sent back.
0:18:50 > 0:18:53So this is just a selection. What's the oldest piece you've got?
0:18:53 > 0:18:56The oldest items come from the Roman era.
0:18:56 > 0:18:59These are Roman theatre tickets, or theatre tokens.
0:18:59 > 0:19:05I think it's interesting to think as to what kind of performances these tokens may have seen.
0:19:05 > 0:19:09They could have been gladiatorial contests, or even mimes, of course.
0:19:09 > 0:19:14- So the performers might not have finished the show? - Indeed! That's probably quite true.
0:19:14 > 0:19:20- Fred, who was Chung Ling Soo? - Chung Ling Soo was as much a mystery off stage as he was on.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24He was a very famous Chinese conjuror who appeared around 1900,
0:19:24 > 0:19:29and whenever he appeared for interviews, he always had an interpreter with him.
0:19:29 > 0:19:32His most famous trick was the bullet-catch trick.
0:19:32 > 0:19:37In this trick, two guns would be loaded and aimed at Chung Ling Soo, and fired.
0:19:37 > 0:19:42He'd catch the bullets in his teeth and drop them into a plate at the end of the performance.
0:19:42 > 0:19:45One evening, he didn't check the apparatus.
0:19:45 > 0:19:50When the guns were fired, the bullets hit Chung Ling Soo, he fell to the stage and died the following day.
0:19:50 > 0:19:53But the mystery didn't end there.
0:19:53 > 0:19:58Only after he died did the general public realise that he wasn't Chinese at all,
0:19:58 > 0:20:02but an American conjuror by the name of William Ellsworth Robinson.
0:20:02 > 0:20:07This is an unusual autograph, because Chung Ling Soo had autographed the album page
0:20:07 > 0:20:11and had written, "Go slowly - you will live longer." Slightly ironic.
0:20:11 > 0:20:16- Do my eyes deceive me, or is that a letter from Houdini?- Yes. It is a letter from Houdini, the magician.
0:20:16 > 0:20:21Synonymous with magic, but more famous for escapology, of course.
0:20:21 > 0:20:25Houdini, as you probably know, died in 1926
0:20:25 > 0:20:28after somebody struck him in the stomach
0:20:28 > 0:20:32because he said he could withstand almost any blows, which he could,
0:20:32 > 0:20:36but Houdini wasn't prepared for this blow when this student hit him.
0:20:36 > 0:20:39Unfortunately, so the story goes, it ruptured his appendix.
0:20:39 > 0:20:43A letter from Houdini, addressed to somebody in Southend-on-Sea!
0:20:43 > 0:20:47David Garrick was from Lichfield. He would have been interested in this.
0:20:47 > 0:20:52- Are you a frustrated thespian? - Frustrated maybe, but I'm not quite sure about thespian.
0:20:52 > 0:20:55You do the occasional trick, do you?
0:20:55 > 0:20:58- You can use your props? That fan, for example?- We can use...
0:20:58 > 0:21:04I'm not actually a magician, but this is a rather unusual fan that I could actually say to you,
0:21:04 > 0:21:08- "Thank you, good night." - Follow that!
0:21:11 > 0:21:16Imagine yourself as a guest at an English country estate.
0:21:16 > 0:21:20You've just arrived and are waiting for the main meal of the day,
0:21:20 > 0:21:23which would have been taken at three o'clock in the afternoon.
0:21:23 > 0:21:28This is how you might have just spent the first two hours of your visit,
0:21:28 > 0:21:32being shown round this wonderful landscape.
0:21:32 > 0:21:37You're walking, you're talking. Here, you're flirting even.
0:21:37 > 0:21:40And this lovely figure has got a fishing-line,
0:21:40 > 0:21:46just flicked over into the water. I love the dog down here.
0:21:46 > 0:21:51It tells us so much about what was going on at the end of the 18th century.
0:21:51 > 0:21:58- How this has been done is in layers, rather like doing the backdrop of a stage set.- I see.
0:21:58 > 0:22:03Some of the figures in the front and some of the landscape
0:22:03 > 0:22:08will have been painted directly reversed onto the glass.
0:22:08 > 0:22:14And then, behind that, if you took it to bits, I think you would find a sheet of paper
0:22:14 > 0:22:18which has also been painted with a landscape.
0:22:18 > 0:22:22So you get this sort of 3D-effect.
0:22:22 > 0:22:25It really is an absolutely startling image. I love it.
0:22:25 > 0:22:28Tell me the story here.
0:22:28 > 0:22:33Well, it's been in the family as long as I know, possibly about 100 years.
0:22:33 > 0:22:37My mother-in-law used to have it in her house here in Lichfield and then,
0:22:37 > 0:22:42when the house was sold and items were divided up by the family,
0:22:42 > 0:22:46I particularly liked this painting and said, "Can I have it?" So...
0:22:46 > 0:22:50There's not a lot known about the artists who paint these reverse paintings.
0:22:50 > 0:22:56Classically, they're done in China, and they're taken from engravings and images,
0:22:56 > 0:22:58for export back into the English market.
0:22:58 > 0:23:02But I feel pretty certain that this in an English painter.
0:23:02 > 0:23:08- I think we're looking at a figure somewhere in the region of... £3,000 to £4,000.- Gosh!
0:23:08 > 0:23:10I'm amazed.
0:23:10 > 0:23:16It does, however, leave you with a slight problem, because in no way is this fitting securely in its frame.
0:23:16 > 0:23:18It's completely unstable.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22Because its value is that it is perfect,
0:23:22 > 0:23:28the most important thing is to get it properly framed and properly secured within its frame.
0:23:28 > 0:23:30Thank you very much.
0:23:30 > 0:23:35I'm always absolutely delighted when people bring long case clocks along to the Roadshow,
0:23:35 > 0:23:41particularly where we've got an automaton that we can get working. What do you think of that?
0:23:41 > 0:23:46Well, quite frankly, that's the first time I've seen that working in my lifetime.
0:23:46 > 0:23:51My father disconnected it before I was born because it didn't keep good time if the automaton was working.
0:23:51 > 0:23:55- Seriously?- Absolutely.- You've never seen that go before?- No.
0:23:55 > 0:24:01The clock should run absolutely perfectly with that going. When it goes home, I'm sure it will.
0:24:01 > 0:24:05- And you've really known it all your life?- Oh, yes. It was the only clock we had.
0:24:05 > 0:24:09We lived in the country, no radio, no electricity.
0:24:09 > 0:24:15Father used to go out at nine o'clock at night and listen to the town hall clock at Preston eight miles away,
0:24:15 > 0:24:22- rush in and set the clock and that set us up for two or three weeks. - So you're a Lancashire man?- Yes.
0:24:22 > 0:24:24And here we are,
0:24:24 > 0:24:26J Alker of Wigan.
0:24:26 > 0:24:31You probably know there were a large family of Alkers working
0:24:31 > 0:24:35for about 120 years in Wigan, and this fits in exactly.
0:24:35 > 0:24:41This is one of the Johns and it fits in exactly with the date of the clock as being around 1830.
0:24:41 > 0:24:46It's the most extraordinary thing because it's a highly visual clock,
0:24:46 > 0:24:51absolutely typical of a north country clock from the 1830s,
0:24:51 > 0:24:56and yet we've got this incredible mixture of a very military case
0:24:56 > 0:25:02with this very Biblical movement. And the four spandrels,
0:25:02 > 0:25:08- which are painted with Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Do you know who these are?- Faith, Hope and Charity.
0:25:08 > 0:25:11Faith, Hope and Charity makes very good sense to me.
0:25:11 > 0:25:18It's a very attractive dial, but not the sort of thing I'd expect to see with the rest of the case.
0:25:18 > 0:25:21Then we've got these two superb pictures.
0:25:21 > 0:25:27We have Nelson, we have Hardy there, we've got Royal Marines fighting on the quarterdeck.
0:25:27 > 0:25:29What do you know about that?
0:25:29 > 0:25:33Erm... Well, it's always intrigued me, all my life.
0:25:33 > 0:25:38My wife and I tried to find out where the original is,
0:25:38 > 0:25:42and it is in the museum opposite The Victory at Portsmouth.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44Right, what a concoction!
0:25:44 > 0:25:47What a wonderfully visual piece!
0:25:47 > 0:25:53An incredibly difficult thing to value, mainly because it's not really a clock man's clock.
0:25:54 > 0:25:59It's going to sell to somebody who just loves Nelson, not that you'd ever sell it.
0:25:59 > 0:26:05But, as a rough guide, I suppose, if it came up at auction with all this...
0:26:05 > 0:26:09- probably between £7,000 and £10,000. - Good.
0:26:12 > 0:26:17I just can't believe this is a box for a Schuco scent bottle.
0:26:17 > 0:26:21Look at that! Look at the colour of it!
0:26:21 > 0:26:26How did you find it in such good condition?
0:26:26 > 0:26:29- A car-boot sale. - Do you go to a lot of them? - I do, yes.
0:26:29 > 0:26:31What time do you get there?
0:26:31 > 0:26:36- Half past four. - They don't open at half past four. - They do.- Do they?- They do, they do.
0:26:36 > 0:26:41- And that's how you found him?- Yeah, yeah.- Just sitting there? - No, it was in a chest of drawers.
0:26:43 > 0:26:47That is fantastic! Look at that colour!
0:26:47 > 0:26:52Schuco was a very good German maker, as you probably know.
0:26:52 > 0:26:54These were patented in 1926.
0:26:54 > 0:26:59The fact that he's in the original box adds another...
0:26:59 > 0:27:03Well, double what he would otherwise be making at auction.
0:27:03 > 0:27:06Do you mind if I ask you how much you paid?
0:27:06 > 0:27:07It was £3.
0:27:07 > 0:27:13- Well, you've done extremely well. With the box, £500 to £700.- Really?
0:27:13 > 0:27:16- Fantastic, thank you. - Thanks very much.
0:27:16 > 0:27:23You've brought two catalogues, Volumes Two and Three, Catalogue Of Artistic Japanese Bronze Ware.
0:27:23 > 0:27:26Let's look at Volume Three,
0:27:26 > 0:27:32which is "K Kakuha, most reliable and reasonable establishment in the East.
0:27:32 > 0:27:38"Largest manufacturer of every description of artistic bronzes and brass ware."
0:27:38 > 0:27:40- I love this shop here.- Yes.
0:27:40 > 0:27:46- Now, is it possible that one of your family members went through that very door?- I do think it might be.
0:27:46 > 0:27:52We've been travelling into Japan and into India quite a lot at the beginning of the last century
0:27:52 > 0:27:57because we were cotton people in Manchester, so we were visiting that way.
0:27:57 > 0:28:03I do believe that probably some of the things that we've got were chosen by those catalogues,
0:28:03 > 0:28:07from them, and I think that could be why we haven't got Volume One.
0:28:07 > 0:28:13I feel that Volume One is probably the one that has got the ticks and the choices in.
0:28:13 > 0:28:17Do you know whether any of your family went to the great exhibitions out in Japan?
0:28:17 > 0:28:22Yes, we've got a panel at home which the family tradition says
0:28:22 > 0:28:27was bought at the Great Tokyo Exhibition of 1901.
0:28:27 > 0:28:31- Ah!- Whether anything else was bought at the time, I don't know.
0:28:31 > 0:28:36- The family doesn't have any record of anything like that. - That is a magical date.
0:28:36 > 0:28:41- Japan, of course, had been totally isolated from Europe for most of the late 18th and 19th centuries.- Yes.
0:28:41 > 0:28:44It starts opening up in the 1860s.
0:28:44 > 0:28:51- By the time we get to the Great Tokyo Exhibition of 1901, it has almost become European-ised.- Yes.
0:28:51 > 0:28:55- Hence this sort of catalogue, when Europeans like your family were out there visiting.- Yes.
0:28:55 > 0:29:02This is the thrilling thing for me. You may find it naughty of me to be ignoring these lovely pieces.
0:29:02 > 0:29:05This is a wonderful catalogue. A great document.
0:29:05 > 0:29:11I can't put a value on these because I have never seen such catalogues before,
0:29:11 > 0:29:17but it strikes me that the family, having gone to those exhibitions,
0:29:17 > 0:29:23- was intending to buy using these catalogues. They took them away as a privilege.- Yes.
0:29:23 > 0:29:28That leads me on to this piece behind us. What's its history?
0:29:28 > 0:29:30Well, this is Wallace.
0:29:30 > 0:29:35- Wallace.- He's been Wallace ever since I can remember.- It's not a very Japanese name, Wallace.
0:29:35 > 0:29:41No. Well, if you remember, Stanley Holloway did a monologue and he had a stick with a horse's head handle,
0:29:41 > 0:29:46and his little boy put his head in the mouth of a lion at the zoo.
0:29:46 > 0:29:49I think that's why we call him Wallace.
0:29:49 > 0:29:51It is a remarkably good piece.
0:29:51 > 0:29:57I mean, look at the way the stripes are alternately burnished, given this matt finish,
0:29:57 > 0:30:03so you've got this wonderful variation in the tone. It's an incredibly robust, muscular object.
0:30:03 > 0:30:06The one thing these catalogues don't tell us is...
0:30:06 > 0:30:09- Yes.- ..prices.- Right.
0:30:09 > 0:30:12Do we have any idea what Wallace might have cost?
0:30:12 > 0:30:15- No, we don't.- Right. OK.
0:30:15 > 0:30:21- Well, for me, it's a toss up whether these are more valuable than this, in real terms.- Oh, right, yes.
0:30:21 > 0:30:28But, in money terms, I can say that Wallace is the sort of guy
0:30:28 > 0:30:35who, if you were to buy him in a shop or at a very smart fair today,
0:30:35 > 0:30:37would cost you...
0:30:37 > 0:30:44- certainly in the region of £6,000 to £9,000.- Yes.
0:30:44 > 0:30:46Yes, well, he's very nice.
0:30:46 > 0:30:48THEY LAUGH
0:30:48 > 0:30:52This is such an interesting interior scene.
0:30:52 > 0:30:57If I'm not mistaken, I think this man is looking at fossils, it appears to be.
0:30:57 > 0:30:59Is this someone you know in the picture?
0:30:59 > 0:31:03Yes, this is my great-grandfather, Alfred Leeds.
0:31:03 > 0:31:09He was involved in digging up fossils at Eyebury, Peterborough.
0:31:09 > 0:31:11And did he form a collection?
0:31:11 > 0:31:16Yes, he did. He formed a collection, part of which is in the National History Museum
0:31:16 > 0:31:20and the other part is at the Hunterian Museum in Glasgow.
0:31:20 > 0:31:23What interests me is the monogram down here.
0:31:23 > 0:31:28When I first saw this, there's one artist that signs with an "N",
0:31:28 > 0:31:30who is called Sir William Nicholson.
0:31:30 > 0:31:33But this is not his usual monogram.
0:31:33 > 0:31:40- Do you know anything about Nicholson?- Only that he was my great-grandfather's cousin.
0:31:40 > 0:31:45Right. Well, looking at the date here, and it's dated 1889,
0:31:45 > 0:31:48and he was born in 1872 -
0:31:48 > 0:31:53an early work painted by Sir William Nicholson when he's 17 years old.
0:31:53 > 0:31:57Now, he became, in the 20th century, a great artist.
0:31:57 > 0:31:59He had a son,
0:31:59 > 0:32:03who became almost even more famous than him.
0:32:03 > 0:32:10He was called Ben Nicholson who, as you know, was the artist who went to St Ives with Christopher Wood
0:32:10 > 0:32:13and he became an abstract artist.
0:32:13 > 0:32:18I think it must have been a fascinating family dynamic there,
0:32:18 > 0:32:24because this man's brother was the curator of the Ashmolean Museum
0:32:24 > 0:32:29and also a friend of Lawrence of Arabia, so I think it must...
0:32:29 > 0:32:31- It's amazing, all the connections. - Fantastic, yes.
0:32:31 > 0:32:36There was an exhibition last year of Sir William Nicholson's work in the Royal Academy,
0:32:36 > 0:32:41and he is one of my favourite artists of the 20th century.
0:32:41 > 0:32:43This picture,
0:32:43 > 0:32:45painted when he was 17,
0:32:45 > 0:32:50just shows how technically proficient he was as a 17-year-old.
0:32:50 > 0:32:53His style in the 20th century goes on.
0:32:53 > 0:32:59He does these still lifes of silver and flowers, and he paints silver better than anybody else.
0:32:59 > 0:33:06His still lifes are really luxurious and painted loosely, and just what I call very sexy.
0:33:06 > 0:33:09They're marvellous, marvellous pictures.
0:33:09 > 0:33:12But to see a work like this is just so interesting, academically.
0:33:12 > 0:33:16So this puts this picture, to a collector,
0:33:16 > 0:33:21in a different light than just being another early picture by an artist.
0:33:21 > 0:33:24Value.
0:33:24 > 0:33:27I was looking at this, and I just feel that,
0:33:27 > 0:33:31if this came on the market today, and because he is so important,
0:33:31 > 0:33:36I think this would make probably £8,000 to £12,000 at auction.
0:33:36 > 0:33:41It sounds a lot of money but, believe me, I think, academically, it's really interesting.
0:33:41 > 0:33:44To a collector, I'd actually want this.
0:33:44 > 0:33:50It's more than a 17-year-old boy. I wish I had a 17-year-old son that could paint like that.
0:33:50 > 0:33:54- Well, it really is a weird cubist cat, isn't it?- It is, rather, yes.
0:33:54 > 0:33:59- It's quite ugly, to be honest.- You don't like it?- I don't like it, no.
0:33:59 > 0:34:05I inherited it about 21 years ago but really don't know much about it, except that it was...
0:34:05 > 0:34:09- I know Louis Wain is famous for cats. - Well, you're quite right.
0:34:09 > 0:34:14Louis Wain is very famous as an illustrator of cats, and cartoon cats in particular.
0:34:14 > 0:34:19Um, but what's interesting is these funny little models made in ceramic.
0:34:19 > 0:34:23Some of them are made on the Continent in hard-paste porcelain.
0:34:23 > 0:34:25This one was made in the UK, in England.
0:34:25 > 0:34:29It's in such lovely condition, but isn't he odd?
0:34:29 > 0:34:32Yes, he is very odd. It doesn't even look like a cat to me.
0:34:32 > 0:34:37- I thought it was just like a warrior lion or...- Do you know what he's for?
0:34:37 > 0:34:40- No, no.- He's a match-holder.- Right.
0:34:40 > 0:34:45He sits there by the fireside, take your match out, strike it on the wall.
0:34:45 > 0:34:49Shame he hasn't got a match strike, sometimes they do. I think he's marvellous.
0:34:49 > 0:34:57- Right. Were there quite a few characters?- I think there are between 10 and 15 different shapes.
0:34:57 > 0:35:02- He dates from round about 1910, 1915, that sort of period.- Yes.
0:35:02 > 0:35:05- He is really quite an unusual one. - Is he?- Yeah.- In what way?
0:35:05 > 0:35:09- But you haven't done any homework on this?- Not a lot.
0:35:09 > 0:35:15My son found a similar cat and he thought it was valued at about £200, but that was a few years ago.
0:35:15 > 0:35:17That's one of the common ones.
0:35:17 > 0:35:21- Right.- I'm not sure exactly how uncommon this one is.- Right.
0:35:21 > 0:35:26- But he's certainly somewhere around £1,000 mark.- Really? You do surprise me.- Could be more.
0:35:26 > 0:35:34- For an ugly character like that? - He's not! He is a marvellous cubist cat.- Right. Now I know(!)
0:35:34 > 0:35:39I see you like Mortimer. Of course, Mortimer is one of the premier gunsmiths
0:35:39 > 0:35:45- that ever operated in London. - Mortimer was one of the top makers, as you say.
0:35:45 > 0:35:50But the two pistols here by Mortimer are unique.
0:35:50 > 0:35:56They're Nelson's own. They came from the Davidson Collection, recently auctioned.
0:35:56 > 0:36:01Anyone in the world could buy them, which means they would have gone out of the United Kingdom.
0:36:01 > 0:36:08I thought it'd be nice to have them as the pinnacle of my collection and also to save them for the nation.
0:36:08 > 0:36:10Good job you were there!
0:36:10 > 0:36:16Now, you see before Nelson lost his arm at Santa Cruz, he was very much a fighting man himself.
0:36:16 > 0:36:20He was always first in the boat, and first out of the boat, onto the enemy ships.
0:36:20 > 0:36:24So there's every possibility he used these weapons at that time.
0:36:24 > 0:36:30Let us talk about one or two. Now, we have a double-barrelled sword pistol.
0:36:30 > 0:36:36Now, it's something to see a single-barrelled sword pistol, without a double barrel.
0:36:36 > 0:36:42Mind you, not playing the game! One chap draws his sword and then you draw this sword and shoot him.
0:36:42 > 0:36:49But, of course, one of the magical weapons. Of course this ISN'T Mortimer.
0:36:49 > 0:36:53- Not at all, no.- No, made by Nock, at the time.
0:36:53 > 0:36:55A seven-barrelled volley gun.
0:36:55 > 0:36:59You can imagine, you fire this and all seven barrels go off at once,
0:36:59 > 0:37:04so I don't think you remain standing afterwards, you know.
0:37:04 > 0:37:08- Not probably without a broken shoulder.- Have you ever fired it?
0:37:08 > 0:37:12- I have, actually.- Have you?!- At low charge.- Have to be low charge.
0:37:12 > 0:37:14But it's a hell of a kick.
0:37:14 > 0:37:17Mmm. Nelson wouldn't allow these to be used in the firing tops
0:37:17 > 0:37:22- because he was worried about the sails catching fire.- Yeah.
0:37:22 > 0:37:25But, of course, you've seen that series, Sharpe?
0:37:25 > 0:37:27- That's right. - That we've seen on television.
0:37:27 > 0:37:31- The sergeant carries one of these with him, doesn't he?- That's right.
0:37:31 > 0:37:35But I suspect they're naval use rather than infantry.
0:37:35 > 0:37:37Oh, yes, yes. More naval use.
0:37:37 > 0:37:41Now, shall we go to one or two values here?
0:37:41 > 0:37:46I think this would fetch something like £20,000.
0:37:46 > 0:37:52- The seven-barrelled volley gun, of course, I think because of Sharpe series, the popularity.- Yes.
0:37:52 > 0:37:54I've seen them offered at £35,000.
0:37:54 > 0:37:56Wonderful, wonderful things.
0:37:56 > 0:37:59It's a privilege to handle them and see them.
0:38:02 > 0:38:08This jewellery came from my late husband's family and, as far as I believe,
0:38:08 > 0:38:11my father-in-law's grandmother
0:38:11 > 0:38:17was nanny to Queen Alexandra and Edward VII's children,
0:38:17 > 0:38:20or Lord and Lady Knollys' children,
0:38:20 > 0:38:25and Lady Charlotte Knollys was lady-in-waiting to Queen Alexandra.
0:38:25 > 0:38:29Well, fantastic. There's plenty of evidence to back that up, isn't there?
0:38:29 > 0:38:35- Yes.- These magnificent little presentation brooches are a sort of little march through her career.
0:38:35 > 0:38:38This is the cipher of Queen Alexandra, the double A.
0:38:38 > 0:38:40- Yes, that's right. - Under the Royal crown.
0:38:40 > 0:38:43So perhaps this was a Christmas present.
0:38:43 > 0:38:47Maybe that's a birthday present, and yet another one.
0:38:47 > 0:38:50This nanny would wear them with enormous pride, I'm sure.
0:38:50 > 0:38:53These two, actually, made her swell with pride even more.
0:38:53 > 0:38:57Have you thought about the date? 1902, why that would be special?
0:38:57 > 0:39:02- Um...- It's the coronation of Edward VII.- That's right.
0:39:02 > 0:39:05Certainly, Mrs Martin, the nanny,
0:39:05 > 0:39:09would have shared in the great drama that surrounded the coronation
0:39:09 > 0:39:12and those at that coronation would have been given a medal.
0:39:12 > 0:39:16More intimate friends would have been given a brooch,
0:39:16 > 0:39:19where the date 1902 is laid out on the lid.
0:39:19 > 0:39:24But if we can get a measure of how intimate this relationship is,
0:39:24 > 0:39:28and it very clearly is, we need to look at these stunning telegrams.
0:39:28 > 0:39:32It says, "Handed in at Sandringham.
0:39:32 > 0:39:37"Mrs Martin at Sir John Knollys's stable yard, St James's Palace."
0:39:37 > 0:39:41And it says, and I think this is full of drama, I really do.
0:39:41 > 0:39:45"Poor dear Baba and tiny Mama miss Nana very much.
0:39:45 > 0:39:48"Hope she is well and not too sad, signed Princess of Wales."
0:39:48 > 0:39:53Would that be the sadness of Queen Alexandra's death?
0:39:53 > 0:39:57- What's the date of that?- Yes, I suppose that's absolutely right.
0:39:57 > 0:40:01- Of course, you're living with them. Absolutely marvellous.- Yes.
0:40:01 > 0:40:03- That an absolute bombshell to receive.- Yes.
0:40:03 > 0:40:08A bombshell to have taken down by the secretary at the postal office.
0:40:08 > 0:40:12A very exciting moment to get that. Similar excitement here.
0:40:12 > 0:40:15Fantastically exciting invitation.
0:40:15 > 0:40:19It says, "At Sandringham, the Queen wishes to let Nana know
0:40:19 > 0:40:24- "that she's expected here as usual for Christmas."- That's lovely. - Fantastic. Straight from the heart.
0:40:24 > 0:40:29- Quite a closeness. Very nice.- These were enormously important people
0:40:29 > 0:40:32that sent these telegrams, gave these jewels.
0:40:32 > 0:40:34What do you really feel about them?
0:40:34 > 0:40:36I just love them.
0:40:36 > 0:40:40I feel as though I'd like to go back in time and be a part of it.
0:40:40 > 0:40:45But, I suppose, in a way, I am a part of it, because they've ended up in my care.
0:40:45 > 0:40:46So, value... Goodness.
0:40:46 > 0:40:49This is almost vulgarity to value them, isn't it?
0:40:49 > 0:40:52I mean, I don't know where to start.
0:40:52 > 0:40:54A little medallion from the coronation of Edward VII.
0:40:54 > 0:40:56£500 or £600, perhaps, for that.
0:40:56 > 0:40:58Gosh.
0:40:58 > 0:41:03And a brooch commemorating the same occasion, maybe £1,250.
0:41:03 > 0:41:06- Gosh!- And then move on to this one, slightly smaller,
0:41:06 > 0:41:09but much more complex. It's a reverse intaglio.
0:41:09 > 0:41:13It's made of rock crystal that's been engraved from behind,
0:41:13 > 0:41:15with the cipher of the Queen,
0:41:15 > 0:41:19then painted from behind, so it seems to be in 3D,
0:41:19 > 0:41:22backed with mother of pearl and then sealed in gold.
0:41:22 > 0:41:24And original box, um, £1,500 maybe.
0:41:24 > 0:41:28- SHE GASPS - £1,750, I don't know.
0:41:28 > 0:41:29A watch, a gorgeous watch.
0:41:29 > 0:41:33Actually plain, but sophisticated.
0:41:33 > 0:41:36Well, maybe £2,000.
0:41:36 > 0:41:42And then back here with more colour, in translucent green enamel and white enamel and pearls.
0:41:42 > 0:41:45They're not only masterpieces of ciphers and monograms,
0:41:45 > 0:41:49but they're also thought out in colour, in texture and in 3D.
0:41:49 > 0:41:54- They are little sculptures in boxes, so £2,000 for that one.- Gosh!
0:41:54 > 0:41:58So, heavens above, I don't know, what does it all add up to?
0:41:58 > 0:42:03- I nearly didn't bother to come today. - Did you not? - Nearly stayed at home and decorated.
0:42:03 > 0:42:06I'm massively relieved that you put the paintbrush down!
0:42:06 > 0:42:11- Thank you!- You completely made my day. This is absolutely marvellous.
0:42:11 > 0:42:16- I know you'll take great care of them, because you care about them, don't you?- Oh, yes, I do, very much.
0:42:18 > 0:42:22In the past, when we've broadcast from great churches like this,
0:42:22 > 0:42:25people have told us they're uncomfortable about us
0:42:25 > 0:42:29discussing the values of material things in such places.
0:42:29 > 0:42:35- Canon Tony Barnard, do you feel there's a conflict?- We always think carefully where we draw the line.
0:42:35 > 0:42:39But, basically, the things that have been brought are beautiful treasures,
0:42:39 > 0:42:45beautiful artefacts, and the Church has a long tradition of sponsoring the arts. We still do it today.
0:42:45 > 0:42:50More importantly, it's bringing hundreds of people into the cathedral
0:42:50 > 0:42:53who probably wouldn't come here otherwise,
0:42:53 > 0:42:58and they can be touched by the beauty of the place that we're standing in, and hopefully by God.
0:42:58 > 0:43:01It's been a wonderful day all round, then.
0:43:01 > 0:43:06- Thank you for that seal of approval, and for your hospitality. - We've enjoyed it very much.
0:43:06 > 0:43:10And from Lichfield Cathedral, until the next time, goodbye.