0:00:41 > 0:00:43If it's escaped your notice that the Antiques Roadshow
0:00:43 > 0:00:47is celebrating its 30th anniversary, then you really haven't
0:00:47 > 0:00:49been watching. We've talked a lot
0:00:49 > 0:00:51about the years between now and then.
0:00:58 > 0:01:05We've turned the speedometer back to 1977, the year the show actually began.
0:01:08 > 0:01:14In those days, to eager young petrol heads, the TR6 was the coolest seven wheels on the block,
0:01:14 > 0:01:17and fashion was extremely groovy.
0:01:17 > 0:01:21# ..Yesterday's gone Yesterday's gone... #
0:01:24 > 0:01:27It was a time when women walked tall in stacked wedges.
0:01:28 > 0:01:33Cutting edge flares were a menace to small children and dogs.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37Shirt collars were capable of lift off.
0:01:37 > 0:01:42And the velvet jacket wasn't just worn in private, it was in vogue.
0:01:43 > 0:01:47Just suppose we kept all that groovy gear in mothballs
0:01:47 > 0:01:50and the flash motor in mint condition.
0:02:02 > 0:02:06Well, back in the days when the Roadshow was sucking on its dummy,
0:02:06 > 0:02:10my TR6 was worth just over £1,300.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13Now it's worth £13,000 - a good investment,
0:02:13 > 0:02:15and that's what today's Roadshow is all about,
0:02:15 > 0:02:19making a smart investment for the future of my son.
0:02:23 > 0:02:25And we've found the ideal backdrop,
0:02:25 > 0:02:30get an eyeful of the De La Warr Pavilion, Bexhill-on-Sea.
0:02:31 > 0:02:34In its day, it was seen by some as brash and ahead of its time,
0:02:34 > 0:02:36just too modern for its own good.
0:02:36 > 0:02:4070 years on, it's a design icon.
0:02:41 > 0:02:48Which leads us to ask, what objects from our recent past should we cherish for the future?
0:02:48 > 0:02:52Eric Knowles is already in the groove.
0:02:52 > 0:02:58Looking at a gramophone such as this, this is the ultimate desire.
0:02:58 > 0:03:04This and an MGB GT was all I ever wanted back in the 1960s.
0:03:04 > 0:03:09This particular radio gramophone, to give its proper title I think,
0:03:09 > 0:03:14obviously was, was first introduced in 1956.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16- Right.- Am I right?- Yes, you are.
0:03:16 > 0:03:24Good. It is without question a piece of classic design. I mean, people use this term "icons of design"
0:03:24 > 0:03:30and this is, as it's revolutionary for its age. Back in 1956,
0:03:30 > 0:03:37nobody had ever seen anything quite like it, and what made it special
0:03:37 > 0:03:40was the fact that it had got this Perspex cover.
0:03:40 > 0:03:44I mean, this is Space Age in every shape and form.
0:03:44 > 0:03:47But I want to know how long you've been playing with it.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50Well, I bought it in '65 from a shop in London called Imhoff's.
0:03:50 > 0:03:54It was opposite then the new Centre Point.
0:03:54 > 0:03:59- Oh, yes.- And we bought it from there cos we saw it and loved it, and the very same thing,
0:03:59 > 0:04:03we thought it was such a marvellous design and it was something you wanted to cuddle almost.
0:04:03 > 0:04:07It seems silly, but it's so lovely, and then, we've had it since then.
0:04:07 > 0:04:10- It's been in the loft for 30 years now.- Oh, what a shame.
0:04:10 > 0:04:14It is, yes, but if now, this was 100 watts a channel,
0:04:14 > 0:04:19and stereo, I'd take all my hi-fi out and put this back because I like it so much.
0:04:19 > 0:04:22- It's the bee's knees.- Yes.- What's always made it endearing to me
0:04:22 > 0:04:29is the fact that it's always been referred to as Snow White's Coffin,
0:04:29 > 0:04:34for obvious reasons. Doesn't it? But shall we just have a quick,
0:04:34 > 0:04:37- quick look inside. It's Spartan, isn't it?- It is.
0:04:37 > 0:04:40Um, there's no waste of space here.
0:04:40 > 0:04:44First of all, let's extol the virtues of the maker Braun.
0:04:44 > 0:04:48I mean, Braun lead the way here and everybody else followed.
0:04:48 > 0:04:51What I find interesting on your turntable,
0:04:51 > 0:04:57you've got 16 revolutions, 33 and 45. Well, 45 ruled the '60s.
0:04:57 > 0:05:00It ruled the '70s. 16, what do you use 16 for?
0:05:00 > 0:05:04- Mainly speech LPs and plays and things like that.- Right.
0:05:04 > 0:05:06Very few produced, but it was there.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09OK, now, the big question is, what did you pay for it?
0:05:09 > 0:05:12I think it was 79 Guineas with the speaker.
0:05:12 > 0:05:14A lot of money in 1965.
0:05:14 > 0:05:17We couldn't afford the stereo version.
0:05:17 > 0:05:19No, that was a month's wages and more.
0:05:19 > 0:05:22- Yes.- OK, well, today,
0:05:22 > 0:05:26its value is nearer £300.
0:05:26 > 0:05:32I've got to say that around about 10 years ago, they were making around about £400, £500.
0:05:32 > 0:05:38- It depends very much on the actual model. This is an SK...- 55.- 55.
0:05:38 > 0:05:43- And I think value does depend on the actual model itself. - Yes, exactly, yes.
0:05:43 > 0:05:47So if we were saying £300 today, what are we going to say in 30 years?
0:05:47 > 0:05:51This is the bit where I wish I was working alongside Mystic Meg,
0:05:51 > 0:05:58but I dare say that you'd be looking probably nearer £1,000 in 30 years.
0:05:58 > 0:06:02I'll tell you what, let's make an arrangement now.
0:06:02 > 0:06:05We will meet here at the De La Warr Pavilion
0:06:05 > 0:06:10in 30 years, and we'll see how wrong, or how right, I might be.
0:06:10 > 0:06:13I'd love to do that. I don't think we will, but I'd love to.
0:06:13 > 0:06:14I'm forever the optimist.
0:06:16 > 0:06:21When I see that Biba logo, it sort of brings back
0:06:21 > 0:06:25the whole of my teenage years. And opening up the catalogue,
0:06:25 > 0:06:29there we see one of those terribly evocative photographs,
0:06:29 > 0:06:34but also, what's even better, of course you've got the real thing.
0:06:34 > 0:06:38Now, who is the Biba nut? Sorry, this is a colloquial term, we're amongst friends.
0:06:38 > 0:06:43Well, probably both of us, but my sister was the one who introduced me to it,
0:06:43 > 0:06:45because she used to go up to London and...
0:06:45 > 0:06:49- So you were the older sister?- Yeah. - OK, so...- We shared a bedroom so...
0:06:49 > 0:06:50Oh, say no more.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52But for any girl of our age...
0:06:52 > 0:06:56- Absolutely.- ..it was THE destination, Saturday morning, off you'd go and...
0:06:56 > 0:07:02- It certainly was, yes.- Tell me your reminiscences actually of the shop itself, describe it to me.
0:07:02 > 0:07:07Well, my reminiscences were first of the Kensington Church Street branch where...
0:07:07 > 0:07:12it was so atmospheric. I mean, um, I was into Art Nouveau,
0:07:12 > 0:07:14and it's all very much in tune with that.
0:07:14 > 0:07:19Exactly. They ended up, of course, in Derry & Toms
0:07:19 > 0:07:24- in Kensington High Street, which was this shrine really... - It really was, yes.
0:07:24 > 0:07:29..to girlie consumerism. It was a real destination. I mean,
0:07:29 > 0:07:33they had cafe, they had homewares,
0:07:33 > 0:07:40- they had a whole floor devoted to the sort of kasbah scene...- That's right.
0:07:40 > 0:07:44..with Moroccan and Turkish artefacts and so on, and of course, make-up.
0:07:44 > 0:07:49- This is what...a cake tin?- Yes, I mean, I just loved it because it was
0:07:49 > 0:07:55that sort of 1930s style that I loved, um, and just the colours.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58I think the colours together, the gold and black
0:07:58 > 0:08:02- and the red, are just perfect.- And terribly brave at that stage.- Yes.
0:08:02 > 0:08:06We are looking at it with the benefit of hindsight, when we all know about Art Deco and about
0:08:06 > 0:08:12the colour schemes that were used, but actually in the '60s, this was really cutting edge, really new.
0:08:12 > 0:08:18It was, because, er, I think in the '60s, everything was very modern and it was going back to that sort of...
0:08:18 > 0:08:23- you know, era that you know, very much in the past.- Exactly. - And had been swept away really.
0:08:23 > 0:08:28Exactly, this was the era when everybody was burning their Victorian furniture on bonfires, you know,
0:08:28 > 0:08:34and Barbara Hulanicki, who started Biba in 1964, went right against the trends because she was,
0:08:34 > 0:08:38she was using these dusty pinks, these plums,
0:08:38 > 0:08:43dark browns, greys, and I think she described it as "aunty colours,"
0:08:43 > 0:08:46the sort of things perhaps your maiden aunt would be wearing.
0:08:46 > 0:08:49And I mean, the coat is fabulous,
0:08:49 > 0:08:54and that's what I call traditional Biba style, what they set out to do,
0:08:54 > 0:08:55and this is obviously much more...
0:08:55 > 0:09:00Yes, psychedelic, because I was kind of into that at the time
0:09:00 > 0:09:03- and this was the closest they did to the wilder patterns.- Exactly.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05- That's why I went for it really. - Exactly.
0:09:05 > 0:09:09Now, we've got lots of memorabilia here. I want to know...
0:09:09 > 0:09:10- how sad is it?- Yes.
0:09:10 > 0:09:14How sad is it that somebody here...
0:09:14 > 0:09:17keeps a bag, with the receipt...
0:09:17 > 0:09:20I didn't know the receipt was still on it until I fetched that out.
0:09:20 > 0:09:27- I don't believe you for a moment! Well, it's 26th June 1974.- I know.
0:09:27 > 0:09:31And I can look that up in my diary, because every time I went to London, I had to go to Biba's,
0:09:31 > 0:09:36- it was just...- It was a pilgrimage, wasn't it?- It was, and I had to buy something,
0:09:36 > 0:09:40- and I just kept them because they were too lovely to throw away. - Absolutely.
0:09:40 > 0:09:44I mean, as far as value's concerned, prices vary you know, from...
0:09:44 > 0:09:48perhaps £30 or so, £40 perhaps for a catalogue,
0:09:48 > 0:09:54up to £100, £150, maybe £200 for a simple piece of clothing...
0:09:54 > 0:09:59- Right.- ..to something perhaps a little bit more for, for the coat that you've got on.
0:09:59 > 0:10:02But how much was the biscuit tin originally?
0:10:02 > 0:10:06Well, there we go, originally 40p.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09Er, today, I would have thought...£15.
0:10:09 > 0:10:14- Really?- I think if you, if you ever decide that you want to add to the collection,
0:10:14 > 0:10:19you will find plenty of venues out there which will enable you to feed your habit.
0:10:19 > 0:10:23Thank you very much.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26Well, it's a sunny but windy day here in Bexhill,
0:10:26 > 0:10:29so I'm very glad you brought your heater.
0:10:29 > 0:10:30Perhaps we can turn it on.
0:10:30 > 0:10:34- And it works.- It works, even better. But why have you brought your heater?
0:10:34 > 0:10:39Because it was a wedding present to us when we were married in 1961.
0:10:39 > 0:10:43- Right.- Having met up there in the ballroom on the dance floor.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46- So you met in this building? - Yes. In 1959, yes.
0:10:46 > 0:10:50- Across a crowded room, our eyes met. - And it's been wonderful ever since.
0:10:50 > 0:10:54- Wonderful, hasn't it?- Yes.- So, this heater comes into your life
0:10:54 > 0:10:57- when you get married in, what was it, 1961?- Yes.
0:10:57 > 0:10:59And were you modernists?
0:10:59 > 0:11:05Well, we actually had no furniture at all really apart from bits like this, so I think we were modernists.
0:11:05 > 0:11:09- I was, I'm not sure that Richard was.- We had to be minimalists, we couldn't afford anything else.
0:11:09 > 0:11:14- So, minimalism is to do with having no money.- Yes.- When you're first married.- Yes.- A new definition.
0:11:14 > 0:11:18This is an iconic object of that period, this is very much the contemporary look,
0:11:18 > 0:11:20spiky legs and all that sort of thing.
0:11:20 > 0:11:26It has that sort of Space Age feel about it, and this is a very collectable object,
0:11:26 > 0:11:32they're not rare, they fetch anything from £50 to £150,
0:11:32 > 0:11:38depending on condition and colour. There were different colour ways, and it's just nice that you have it,
0:11:38 > 0:11:41you still use it, and it links so precisely to the building.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45It is the style that was outrageous in the 1930s,
0:11:45 > 0:11:51by the 1950s and '60s had become in a sense accepted, But the great thing is,
0:11:51 > 0:11:57- this is a record of coming together here.- Yes, yes, yes.- It does go very well with the building, doesn't it?
0:11:57 > 0:12:00- When you see it here.- It's the perfect setting.- Perfect setting.
0:12:02 > 0:12:07If you can, cast your mind back to 1977. If you can't, ask your dad.
0:12:07 > 0:12:10As I recall, it was the Queen's Silver Jubilee,
0:12:10 > 0:12:16Virginia Wade won Wimbledon, and Star Wars was on its way to becoming one of the top films of all time.
0:12:16 > 0:12:21But apart from the birth of the Antiques Roadshow, what was telly up to in 1977?
0:12:21 > 0:12:26And time to come alive with some hit music and jive on this week's Top of the Pops!
0:12:41 > 0:12:44Did you know you can do multiplication sums on your fingers?
0:12:45 > 0:12:49- This may look like an ordinary piece of corrugated iron.- ..France!
0:13:17 > 0:13:20Here is the news from the BBC.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23I loved him, loved his music.
0:13:23 > 0:13:28# Are you lonesome tonight?
0:13:28 > 0:13:31# Do you miss me... #
0:13:31 > 0:13:34Elvis Presley will still be the king of rock and roll to me,
0:13:34 > 0:13:40- he really and truly will. - # ..we drifted apart... #
0:13:40 > 0:13:42Hello and welcome to "Ask Aspel".
0:13:47 > 0:13:48Five thousand and fifty.
0:13:59 > 0:14:03OK, girls, let's get to the, to the bottom of this.
0:14:03 > 0:14:07Tell me how you got started, because we are surrounded by...
0:14:07 > 0:14:11- well, it's sort of Starsky & Hutch heaven really, isn't it? - It is for us.
0:14:11 > 0:14:13What was the first thing you bought?
0:14:13 > 0:14:18That would be the Starsky doll, and notice the cardigan.
0:14:18 > 0:14:22- I am noticing that cardigan.- It was knitted by my mother in 1975.
0:14:23 > 0:14:27- Sheer devotion, sheer devotion. - And did she knit you that one at the same time?
0:14:27 > 0:14:32- No, my friend here knitted this one. - And who made the jacket?
0:14:32 > 0:14:35I made the Hutch jacket, yes, matches the Hutch doll.
0:14:35 > 0:14:41- So... So, you became, this is not your life. You have more lives.- No.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44Yes, we do have lives, yes.
0:14:44 > 0:14:49But you, you share this extraordinary passion for Starsky and Hutch?
0:14:49 > 0:14:54- We do.- We do.- So there you were, glued to the TV sets every, what was it, Wednesdays it went out?
0:14:54 > 0:14:58- Saturday.- Saturday, yeah. Time flies.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01That was repeats on the Wednesdays.
0:15:01 > 0:15:06- And they were a complete phenomenon really from day one, weren't they? - Yes, they were, yes.
0:15:06 > 0:15:13To put it into context, there weren't any similar hard-hitting detective series at that time.
0:15:13 > 0:15:18- No.- And at one point, I think that the censors were getting really worried about Starsky and Hutch
0:15:18 > 0:15:21- because it was too violent.- It was. - We think of it as kind of...
0:15:21 > 0:15:25- things made for kids, but it wasn't, was it?- No.
0:15:25 > 0:15:30- Well ahead of its time.- Absolutely, serious issues.- Yes, prostitution, drug addiction.
0:15:30 > 0:15:36- Yes.- And yet the nub of the show, the friendship between the two men, is what made it so long lasting.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39And they were good looking.
0:15:39 > 0:15:42- I know it's a minor point, but... - Not for me it wasn't.
0:15:42 > 0:15:46- I know.- I have to say, he was my favourite.- Oh!- Yes.
0:15:48 > 0:15:53- Fifty-fifty...- So, tell me, you said that you bought this at the time,
0:15:53 > 0:15:56were you both buying at the time?
0:15:56 > 0:16:02I was, I was buying quite avidly, my poor mum, she had to spend so much money,
0:16:02 > 0:16:05but we bought them, the magazines which were monthly,
0:16:05 > 0:16:08- the bubble gum cards. - The bubble gum cards.- Yeah.
0:16:08 > 0:16:11So you were collecting from the start, and were you also?
0:16:11 > 0:16:15Well, I'm a bit older, so it wasn't quite right for a mature woman,
0:16:15 > 0:16:2022 I think, to collect at that time, but I did go and buy the magazines.
0:16:20 > 0:16:23- Right.- Because those are, those were so special
0:16:23 > 0:16:26and every month more pictures, more letters, more stories.
0:16:26 > 0:16:32- And I can see he touched this page. - Yes.- It's signed.
0:16:32 > 0:16:36I mean, there are some things here that one sees relatively regularly.
0:16:36 > 0:16:41The Corgi toys, something that you see, and some of these games turn up.
0:16:41 > 0:16:46- I must say, there are some things that are rarer, this for instance I, I don't remember seeing.- Yes.
0:16:46 > 0:16:50I mean, when one's talking about, um, valuing a collection like this,
0:16:50 > 0:16:54I guess value is kind of not what it's about.
0:16:54 > 0:16:56It's priceless to us. Priceless, yes.
0:16:56 > 0:17:00But I mean, the price for instance that Corgi...
0:17:00 > 0:17:07- This one.- The, the Torino there with the sort of spread-eagled guy, I mean that varies between about £100
0:17:07 > 0:17:12and £250 on the internet depending on which day you're looking and I mean the great thing is,
0:17:12 > 0:17:16because there is an international fan base, that a collection like this
0:17:16 > 0:17:20is going to go up in value, more and more people are going to become fans.
0:17:20 > 0:17:26This was a time of innocence, not having to worry about your mortgage or your children or anything else,
0:17:26 > 0:17:30just whether your mum was going to give you enough money to buy a Starsky and Hutch magazine.
0:17:30 > 0:17:34Who can ask more from a collection than to do that?
0:17:34 > 0:17:40Than to take you back to a time when you were happy and carefree and were just looking forward to the next...
0:17:40 > 0:17:45- to the next programme.- Yes. - I don't suppose either of you can remember the theme tune.
0:17:45 > 0:17:47- The theme tune, let me see. - Give it a go?
0:17:47 > 0:17:50THEY HUM THE STARSKY AND HUTCH THEME TUNE
0:18:04 > 0:18:06I feel very comfortable sitting here.
0:18:06 > 0:18:10I feel I could spend a long time chatting around this table.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12Is this something you use a lot?
0:18:12 > 0:18:18We have used it a lot in the past, particularly sort of family dinners, things like that.
0:18:18 > 0:18:23This I think is interesting because we've got a whole ensemble...
0:18:23 > 0:18:28here, sideboard, chairs, table, and it's becoming extremely fashionable,
0:18:28 > 0:18:32retro furniture, but you said you've had it for quite a long time. So, when did you get it?
0:18:32 > 0:18:38In the late 1950s, leading up to 1960, when we got married.
0:18:38 > 0:18:43We were working in London at the time and places like the Design Centre in the Haymarket
0:18:43 > 0:18:47and Libertys, they were all the sort of places we tended to visit
0:18:47 > 0:18:52and, um, the sort of teak and stainless steel look was, was coming in at that time.
0:18:52 > 0:18:57We decided we wanted it and ordered it at a local store in Maidstone, and they got it for us.
0:18:57 > 0:19:02- Fantastic. So you were very design conscious when you were, when you were young?- Yes.
0:19:02 > 0:19:08And did you know when you bought this set that it was designed in 1959?
0:19:08 > 0:19:13I don't think we knew that at the time but I'm a retired architect now and at the time,
0:19:13 > 0:19:17people like John and Sylvia Reid, who were the designers,
0:19:17 > 0:19:19we were aware that sort of thing was going on.
0:19:19 > 0:19:25But I think it's worth looking at what really makes it so interesting as a design.
0:19:25 > 0:19:32- You've got this lovely oval table, and it extends?- It does, yes.- So, how many leaves does it have?- One.
0:19:32 > 0:19:37- It's got a centre leaf, which is stored underneath. - But it makes a very elegant shape,
0:19:37 > 0:19:40it's very much of its period, isn't it? This sort of modern, simple,
0:19:40 > 0:19:46streamlined shape, and then the chairs are very simple...
0:19:46 > 0:19:52metal legs as the table, and this sort of slightly geometrical elliptical shape to the back.
0:19:52 > 0:19:58- Yes.- And it's interesting I think picking up the metal legs, that really is a pre-Second World War
0:19:58 > 0:20:02feature that came in through Bauhaus and so on, but also this kind of back
0:20:02 > 0:20:06- really is looking to Danish or Scandinavian design as well.- Yes.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10So that you're really combining the two elements
0:20:10 > 0:20:15of German modernism and Scandinavian humanism, if you like, in the shape.
0:20:15 > 0:20:19So, let's move over here and see what we've got behind it.
0:20:19 > 0:20:26Because also getting a whole ensemble in terms of design was something relatively new for...
0:20:26 > 0:20:30when I say ordinary people rather than the kind of aristocratic design...
0:20:30 > 0:20:34commissions of the 18th and 19th Century, and the little stool here.
0:20:34 > 0:20:37- The chairs have been reupholstered at some point?- Yes.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40- And this is the original fabric. - Right, yes.
0:20:40 > 0:20:44There is the manufacturer's label - Stag,
0:20:44 > 0:20:48and you mentioned John and Sylvia Reid, and they were the modern designers for Stag,
0:20:48 > 0:20:53but what's also interesting is to look at the kind of construction, because it's
0:20:53 > 0:20:58not the very highest engineering quality, it's quite simple, isn't it?
0:20:58 > 0:21:02- This was the accessible face of the new design.- Yes, yes.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06And the sideboard here too, er,
0:21:06 > 0:21:12stylish little pulls here, I like that, the cutlery drawer inside.
0:21:12 > 0:21:14Can you remember what you paid for it?
0:21:14 > 0:21:18No, we've been trying to think of that, it's almost impossible to think back to those times.
0:21:18 > 0:21:21It was probably...
0:21:21 > 0:21:24sort of £30 or £40 type of money,
0:21:24 > 0:21:28which was a lot then when we weren't earning that much.
0:21:28 > 0:21:34For a while this kind of thing, as I'm sure you know, was completely out of fashion, nobody wanted it at all,
0:21:34 > 0:21:40and now it's becoming much, much more fashionable, but it's still up and down, if you,
0:21:40 > 0:21:47if you look on internet sites, you can probably find a set of chairs for, I don't know, £100.
0:21:47 > 0:21:51Elsewhere, I've seen a set of dining sets just like this one,
0:21:51 > 0:21:54in nice condition, as this is, going for...
0:21:54 > 0:21:58at auction this is, er, about £850.
0:21:58 > 0:22:03And the sideboard, you might be lucky and buy one for around £200,
0:22:03 > 0:22:10or you might have to spend at auction £600. So, it's still one of those markets
0:22:10 > 0:22:15which is very, very fluid, but I think it's going to become much more fashionable in the future
0:22:15 > 0:22:19as people begin to see how comfortable it is to live with,
0:22:19 > 0:22:25- how simple the designs are, how elegant the designs are.- I don't know if the children will want it, but...
0:22:25 > 0:22:30Oh, well, you convince them that this is, this is the new Chippendale and you'll be away.
0:22:34 > 0:22:36So, we've got 30 years of the Antiques Roadshow
0:22:36 > 0:22:40and 30 years of the Star Wars saga of course, this being the 6th film.
0:22:40 > 0:22:42You were presumably a fan as a child?
0:22:42 > 0:22:46Yeah, just really never seen anything like it before really.
0:22:46 > 0:22:48So this being an actually quite important poster,
0:22:48 > 0:22:51do you know why this is such an interesting poster?
0:22:51 > 0:22:55Their name, they changed the name at the last minute from "revenge" to "return".
0:22:55 > 0:22:59That's it, I think they felt, that George Lucas felt that revenge
0:22:59 > 0:23:04wasn't something that a Jedi should really have. So a little bit un-Jedi like, so they changed it.
0:23:04 > 0:23:09- The other interesting thing about this poster is that it's probably one of the most faked movie posters.- Yes.
0:23:09 > 0:23:14And there are three pointers that I tend to look at. One of the very recent reproductions was actually
0:23:14 > 0:23:19effectively taken from one of the folded posters, so you have to look very closely at the fold marks
0:23:19 > 0:23:23to make sure that through the actual fold there aren't other marks
0:23:23 > 0:23:26within the poster. That will indicate it's a reproduction.
0:23:26 > 0:23:29The other side of it is the fact that the "Star Wars"
0:23:29 > 0:23:33running along here is quite often in orange and not this yellow.
0:23:33 > 0:23:36- And there's a little red line at the top.- Oh, right, OK.
0:23:36 > 0:23:41Yeah? And then the Fox logo is normally slightly blurry
0:23:41 > 0:23:44- on some of the reproduction posters. - The one in the corner?
0:23:44 > 0:23:46In the bottom corner, yes.
0:23:46 > 0:23:48And sometimes it's a much darker blue.
0:23:48 > 0:23:49So we haven't got fold lines,
0:23:49 > 0:23:51we've got a solid black, a nice light blue,
0:23:51 > 0:23:53and a yellow here across the "Star Wars".
0:23:53 > 0:23:56My feeling is that it's based on that,
0:23:56 > 0:24:00and that they're the normal hallmarks of it being a reproduction or a fake.
0:24:00 > 0:24:04- I think this is brilliant, I think it's absolutely correct.- Oh, good.
0:24:04 > 0:24:09But it's also very good news from the financial side of it as well, because I don't know what you paid for it.
0:24:09 > 0:24:13I paid around just short of 100.
0:24:13 > 0:24:17Well, if it was a fake, I think you'd have been looking around sort of £10,
0:24:17 > 0:24:19- it's purely decorative value. - As little as that?- Yeah.
0:24:19 > 0:24:21But an authentic one like this,
0:24:21 > 0:24:25I can see fetching anything from sort of £250, £300, maybe a little more.
0:24:25 > 0:24:29It's a sort of notorious poster, it's an iconic poster,
0:24:29 > 0:24:32Darth Vader of course, you know, featuring large is a good thing.
0:24:32 > 0:24:37- And I don't know if you've noticed this, have you ever looked at the light sabres?- The wrong way round.
0:24:37 > 0:24:41They are the wrong way round, exactly, it's another interesting feature.
0:24:41 > 0:24:42- Thank you very much.- Thank you.
0:24:42 > 0:24:48Now, I was around in the 1970s, and I think I was reasonably up to date, you know, fairly pacey,
0:24:48 > 0:24:52I never had an LED watch, I don't know why,
0:24:52 > 0:24:55just never sort of grabbed me, but obviously it's grabbed you.
0:24:55 > 0:25:01When I was a kid in the late '70s, me dad bought me a cheap LED watch that I used to, of a night,
0:25:01 > 0:25:05lie under the bed sheets, pressing the button till it wore out looking at the red LED glowing,
0:25:05 > 0:25:11but then I realised that with these watches, they are quite collectable, the early models, so...
0:25:11 > 0:25:13So, when did you start again?
0:25:13 > 0:25:15Well, it was about ten years ago, I bought a fashion magazine,
0:25:15 > 0:25:21I was flicking through the article and there was a picture of an Omega LED watch and I thought,
0:25:21 > 0:25:23"I remember when I was a kid owning one of them watches,"
0:25:23 > 0:25:28so I thought, seemed a good thing to collect, so I started to go back as a kid and collecting them.
0:25:28 > 0:25:31So you were going back to your childhood in a sense?
0:25:31 > 0:25:35- Yeah, just reminiscing.- Where did it start? Have you got it here? - It starts there with...
0:25:35 > 0:25:37- That one? The Pulsar?- Yeah,
0:25:37 > 0:25:41the Pulsar P1, that come out in, er, early '72.
0:25:41 > 0:25:47Everybody saw that and thought, "God, we'd better make those," so Omega do it, everybody else does it.
0:25:47 > 0:25:52Yeah, soon after the Omega was the first European LED watch,
0:25:52 > 0:25:56but Pulsar was the first, that was very expensive back in the early '70s to buy.
0:25:56 > 0:25:59So what would that cost then?
0:25:59 > 0:26:03- 2,100 in... - Gosh, so nearly £1,000.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05Yeah, in '72 you would have...
0:26:05 > 0:26:08- Which is a huge amount of money. - Yeah.- Now, when does it die out?
0:26:08 > 0:26:14Um, around about '77, Pulsar closed because the LCD market took over.
0:26:14 > 0:26:17But hang on, let's get this story, LED/LCD.
0:26:17 > 0:26:22Yeah, Light Emitting Diode, LED, LCD - Liquid Crystal Display.
0:26:22 > 0:26:26- Sure.- And the battery life was a lot longer, whereas the LED...
0:26:26 > 0:26:31- This is a short period in watch history?- Yes, six years and it was pretty much done with.
0:26:31 > 0:26:33- And then it's all over. - Then it was all over.
0:26:33 > 0:26:39- When I look at them now, I missed it at the time, like I missed quite a lot of the '70s I think...- Yes.
0:26:39 > 0:26:45..but I can see now what it is, you know, it has a very, very strong statement about its period,
0:26:45 > 0:26:48- about its time, and that's why they're collectable.- Yes.
0:26:48 > 0:26:51They have that wonderful resonance of when they were made.
0:26:51 > 0:26:54You wear them very much making a style statement.
0:26:54 > 0:26:56Well, it's not often I wear a watch because...
0:26:56 > 0:26:58- A watch...- Oh, this one's...
0:26:58 > 0:27:01This is a Girard Perregaux Sideview LED watch.
0:27:01 > 0:27:04That sounds expensive.
0:27:04 > 0:27:06Yeah, I mean, a lot of the watches,
0:27:06 > 0:27:09- you know, big watch companies, did make the...- Yes.
0:27:09 > 0:27:15- ..and GP was a company that made 'em.- What do you pay for them now?
0:27:15 > 0:27:19Well, I mean, the high end ones, I mean a lot of the, like the P1
0:27:19 > 0:27:24or the Tiffany & Co calculators, they're very difficult to come by so...
0:27:24 > 0:27:29- So this was 2,000 when it was new? - Yeah.- What is it now?
0:27:29 > 0:27:33Well, if you was to find one in the box with the magnet,
0:27:33 > 0:27:38it's got a gold magnet, it's gone as high as 17,500.
0:27:38 > 0:27:41- 17,000?- Dollars, yes. 17,500.
0:27:41 > 0:27:43So it really is the gold dust in...
0:27:43 > 0:27:46Oh, it is, the Pulsar P1 is...
0:27:46 > 0:27:49- But how many have you got? - Around about 85 watches.
0:27:49 > 0:27:52- And more to come?- Well, there's a few key pieces I want,
0:27:52 > 0:27:56but if they do come up for sale, there's a lot of collectors...
0:27:56 > 0:27:57Does it cause domestic stress?
0:27:57 > 0:28:02Well, she's got you know, many pairs of shoes, so she can't complain.
0:28:02 > 0:28:07- But this is a bit more expensive. - Now, this is a very important thing to tell the nation,
0:28:07 > 0:28:11- us men collectors have to fight back. - Yeah. Exactly.- The only other thing I'd like to say is,
0:28:11 > 0:28:14- I think those are great, and Andrew Grima...- Yes.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17..was a fantastic '70s jeweller,
0:28:17 > 0:28:21he had a wonderful shop in Jermyn Street I think with a very stylish front,
0:28:21 > 0:28:25it disappeared, the style went out, so I think in 30 years,
0:28:25 > 0:28:29I don't know that I'd be collecting these watches,
0:28:29 > 0:28:32but I'd certainly be picking the ones by great designers.
0:28:32 > 0:28:34- Exactly.- Thank you. - Thanks very much.
0:28:35 > 0:28:39The Sunday Times Magazine, September 11th 1977,
0:28:39 > 0:28:44and the headline is, or the baseline should I say, "The King is Dead,"
0:28:44 > 0:28:48and here's a fantastic picture of Elvis.
0:28:48 > 0:28:55The Sunday Times was renowned for its fantastic photographic covers, but something else happened in 1977
0:28:55 > 0:29:01of which we all here are all part of, which was the birth of the Antiques Roadshow.
0:29:01 > 0:29:03So, how many of these things have you got?
0:29:03 > 0:29:06We've got them all around us.
0:29:06 > 0:29:09Well, I started collecting them in 1970 at the very beginning.
0:29:09 > 0:29:12- Right.- So I've got over 1,800 copies.
0:29:12 > 0:29:14That's quite incredible.
0:29:14 > 0:29:18Why did you start? Do you just like hoarding paper?
0:29:18 > 0:29:22No, I don't think it was a decision that I just said, "I will keep them,"
0:29:22 > 0:29:26I just happened to start keeping them, then I had a reason to keep them,
0:29:26 > 0:29:31which was that we were due to have our first child at the end of 1970,
0:29:31 > 0:29:34so I thought, here's something that might reflect
0:29:34 > 0:29:37the period that she was born into, and thereafter.
0:29:37 > 0:29:42- A sort of cabinet of curiosities. - That's right.- I think it's absolutely fantastic.
0:29:42 > 0:29:47- This is particularly grim, they do quite a lot on Cambodia, don't they? - Yes, all the world's hot spots...
0:29:47 > 0:29:50And here's another lovely one with John Lennon,
0:29:50 > 0:29:53"Ticket to Ride, unseen pictures of The Beatles
0:29:53 > 0:29:55- "when they won the Wild West".- Yes.
0:29:55 > 0:29:59A very nostalgic picture there, and this of course I think is,
0:29:59 > 0:30:01is quite remarkable, um,
0:30:01 > 0:30:05photography in the womb, and this is how it appears
0:30:05 > 0:30:08on the front of the Sunday Times Magazine
0:30:08 > 0:30:10for September 16th 1990.
0:30:10 > 0:30:14So, how much do you think you've spent over the years?
0:30:14 > 0:30:19Well, it currently costs about £2 a copy, I suppose if you average it over 37 years,
0:30:19 > 0:30:22it might be £1, so we're talking about £1,800.
0:30:22 > 0:30:26£1,800. Does your wife resent it?
0:30:26 > 0:30:28No, of course not.
0:30:29 > 0:30:34And last, but by no means least, the, the chinful wonder
0:30:34 > 0:30:36who we've all come to know and love,
0:30:36 > 0:30:41who now presents the Antiques Roadshow, and this dates from 1970.
0:30:41 > 0:30:46- Yes.- This is Michael Aspel 37 years ago, not a grey hair in sight.- No.
0:30:46 > 0:30:50"Listen to what Michael Aspel has to say about
0:30:50 > 0:30:53"the world's greatest work of reference."
0:30:53 > 0:30:56And you get a free disc with it, it's quite incredible.
0:30:56 > 0:30:58I mean, all these ones here,
0:30:58 > 0:31:02- they're so exciting I could actually sit down and read them all over again.- It's a good read.
0:31:02 > 0:31:06- It's like a dentist's waiting room gone mad, isn't it? - That's where I collected them from!
0:31:07 > 0:31:09And to think that all these years,
0:31:09 > 0:31:12I've been putting them out for the recycling,
0:31:12 > 0:31:15but they are, and you're quite right, I can see it, they are a sort of,
0:31:15 > 0:31:19a chronicle of the time we live in.
0:31:19 > 0:31:21Well, I do know that over the internet,
0:31:21 > 0:31:25certain numbers, you know, things, an Elvis number,
0:31:25 > 0:31:27would certainly go for £10 or £15.
0:31:27 > 0:31:32- I would imagine that Charles and Di would do the same, wouldn't it?- Yes.
0:31:32 > 0:31:38- But I think that you've got £5,000 worth I reckon.- Very good.
0:31:57 > 0:32:02These two lovely watercolours by Mary Fedden, are you a fan of hers?
0:32:02 > 0:32:04Yes, I am, really on both occasions you know,
0:32:04 > 0:32:07they more or less jumped off the wall of the gallery
0:32:07 > 0:32:11and I decided in a matter of minutes that I would buy 'em.
0:32:11 > 0:32:14And did you buy these in the years that they were painted, 1999,
0:32:14 > 0:32:16- and 1998?- No. No.
0:32:16 > 0:32:21In each case I bought them about two years, I must be the second owner.
0:32:21 > 0:32:26- She's a wonderful artist and very much in vogue now because she was born in 1915.- Yes.
0:32:26 > 0:32:29- And she's still painting as we're talking now.- Yes, yes.
0:32:29 > 0:32:33And lives in London and she was married to Julian Trevelyan, another artist.
0:32:33 > 0:32:38Yes, I know she was married to Julian Trevelyan and she didn't paint very much during that time.
0:32:38 > 0:32:42What is so interesting at the moment, the way the market taste has changed,
0:32:42 > 0:32:47at the moment, people love these sort of modern images,
0:32:47 > 0:32:49it's very whimsical this one on the right.
0:32:49 > 0:32:52Yes, it's almost allegorical I think.
0:32:52 > 0:32:57- Wonderful, and the one on the left here looks a bit Cornish.- Yes.
0:32:57 > 0:33:01- Do you know where it was painted? - It was painted, it's called Lostwithiel.
0:33:01 > 0:33:06- Is it?- So, er, I assume it was painted there,
0:33:06 > 0:33:10it was in a period when she was ill and she'd gone to Cornwall
0:33:10 > 0:33:11to recuperate after this illness
0:33:11 > 0:33:15and I think she painted a little bit, but not very much.
0:33:15 > 0:33:20The one on the left here is a watercolour and actually it's got a bit of gouache on there,
0:33:20 > 0:33:25heightened with gouache, and the one on the right here is watercolour with gouache, mixed media really.
0:33:25 > 0:33:32She's actually an important artist now and as these artists get older, people are looking at their work,
0:33:32 > 0:33:38- and certainly Mary Fedden and Julian Trevelyan, and they're considered very important British artists.- Yes.
0:33:38 > 0:33:40She taught at the Royal College of Art.
0:33:40 > 0:33:43- Mm.- She did murals for the Festival of Britain in 1951.
0:33:43 > 0:33:45- Oh, right.- Yeah.- I didn't know that.
0:33:45 > 0:33:48- And you know, she is considered important today.- Mm.
0:33:48 > 0:33:50What did you pay for these?
0:33:50 > 0:33:54- Er, I think I paid about £1,500 for this one.- Yeah.
0:33:54 > 0:33:57And I paid about £3,000 for this one.
0:33:57 > 0:34:02Well, what is interesting about what you paid for them then, and what's happened now, because,
0:34:02 > 0:34:09- in the 21st Century, the taste has gone very much for the modern and also onto abstract artists.- Yes.
0:34:09 > 0:34:12- Right up to the contemporary with her...- Yes.
0:34:12 > 0:34:18And she has also gained huge popularity in the last few years.
0:34:18 > 0:34:22The one on the left here is certainly worth...
0:34:22 > 0:34:25in auction today £5,000 to £7,000.
0:34:25 > 0:34:27- Yes.- At least.- Mm.
0:34:27 > 0:34:31The one down here, on the right, I think is most unusual for her,
0:34:31 > 0:34:34I'm sure you've seen many of her still life paintings.
0:34:34 > 0:34:38Oh, yes, I have, a lot of you know, bowls of flowers in windows...
0:34:38 > 0:34:43- Absolutely, and these... - ..and cats and, er...- These are out of the ordinary for her, aren't they?
0:34:43 > 0:34:46- They're different subject matter. - Yes, they are.
0:34:46 > 0:34:51So the one on the right here, I think would make certainly £6,000 to £9,000.
0:34:51 > 0:34:53Yes.
0:34:53 > 0:34:57- Well, I'm not thinking of selling them.- Good, I think they're a very good investment,
0:34:57 > 0:35:02- but you didn't buy them because of that.- No, I bought them because I liked them.
0:35:02 > 0:35:06There are many times on the Roadshow where I'm confronted by a collection that...
0:35:06 > 0:35:09stops me in my tracks, this is one of them.
0:35:09 > 0:35:16This is the crown jewel in the camera world I think, for me, I have never seen a collection of Nikons like this
0:35:16 > 0:35:21in one place at one time and I suspect I'm very unlikely to ever see a collection like this again.
0:35:21 > 0:35:24Where have they all come from? What started you off?
0:35:24 > 0:35:27Owning a Praktica 35 years ago.
0:35:27 > 0:35:32- A Praktica?- Yes.- You see to me, that's a real workhorse, isn't it, that's the basic of basic cameras.
0:35:32 > 0:35:36They were great cameras, I mean you could knock nails in wood, but...
0:35:36 > 0:35:41having said that, they weren't very good, very reliable and the picture quality wasn't all it could be,
0:35:41 > 0:35:45so, er, and the next step was to buy something half way decent,
0:35:45 > 0:35:47- which was a Nikon F.- A Nikon F.
0:35:47 > 0:35:50Well, let's look at the history a little bit of Nikon because
0:35:50 > 0:35:56- the company started as a manufacturer of military lenses and things, didn't it?- Yes.
0:35:56 > 0:36:01There was something like 25 factories, with 23,000 people working for Nippon Kogaku,
0:36:01 > 0:36:05- which means the Japanese optical industry.- Right. And in that period,
0:36:05 > 0:36:11they were producing for mainly gun sites, all kind of optical instruments for military use,
0:36:11 > 0:36:15but the end of the war came, and the allies forbid them
0:36:15 > 0:36:17to produce anything for military purposes.
0:36:17 > 0:36:21They were virtually bankrupt at the end of the Second World War,
0:36:21 > 0:36:25and they were looking for a market, and the market was cameras, and they went with this product.
0:36:25 > 0:36:29To me, when I think of Nikon,
0:36:29 > 0:36:33I think of photo journalism, and we've got the F Series.
0:36:33 > 0:36:36Well, the F has become a legend. It came out in 1959,
0:36:36 > 0:36:41and has photographed every major incident around the world. It was there when Kennedy was shot,
0:36:41 > 0:36:45- it was there when man walked on the moon.- Let's pick out an F series.
0:36:45 > 0:36:47Um, there are various ones, this one for instance,
0:36:47 > 0:36:50a very early F, very basic.
0:36:50 > 0:36:53Photo journalists wanted to use these cameras,
0:36:53 > 0:36:57they were a good robust camera, the main people that we know, people like Tim Page,
0:36:57 > 0:37:02photographers in the Vietnam War used these kind of cameras and would often say they were bullet proof.
0:37:02 > 0:37:05- They were.- I don't know how many Nikon Fs saved people's lives.
0:37:05 > 0:37:09Quite a few, I've seen a few pictures of Nikon Fs where they've
0:37:09 > 0:37:10been hit with a bullet there
0:37:10 > 0:37:13- and the camera and the lens has stopped the bullet.- Really?
0:37:13 > 0:37:16- Yes.- So there is a bit of reality in that.- Of course, yes.
0:37:16 > 0:37:23- It's not just an urban myth.- And also they were wrapped up in plastic bags after being chased by Viet Cong and,
0:37:23 > 0:37:28they were dumped in water and left there for maybe a week sealed in a plastic bag, you know,
0:37:28 > 0:37:33with an elastic band around, and picked up later so the photographers would not lose the pictures.
0:37:33 > 0:37:36Quite incredible. I'm staggered by this collection,
0:37:36 > 0:37:40absolutely staggered. I could talk to you for days
0:37:40 > 0:37:43about what is just on this table. Is this the whole collection, or...?
0:37:43 > 0:37:48- No?- No, it's about 5% of what I've got at home.- 5%?
0:37:48 > 0:37:52But essentially, if I said there's £150,000 worth on this table,
0:37:52 > 0:37:55- I'd be being conservative, would I? - Very, yes.
0:37:55 > 0:38:00- You'd get the half of it probably. - That's it then! That's enough for me today.
0:38:03 > 0:38:07This has got an amazingly ancient look about it.
0:38:07 > 0:38:11Yeah, that's because it probably is older than the Dead Sea Scrolls...
0:38:11 > 0:38:13Older than the Dead Sea Scrolls.
0:38:13 > 0:38:18- Perhaps.- Well, they were around...nought, weren't they?
0:38:18 > 0:38:23- Um, this would be around the Han Dynasty.- That's right.
0:38:23 > 0:38:29Um, like the terracotta figures, a very unusual thing, where did you find it?
0:38:29 > 0:38:35Unfortunately, it wasn't in my family, I found it in a flea market
0:38:35 > 0:38:39in south east London a few years ago on a Sunday afternoon.
0:38:39 > 0:38:42- OK.- Yes. - Did they tell you what it was?
0:38:42 > 0:38:47Well, it was really unlikely, it was kind of amongst loads of just house clearance things,
0:38:47 > 0:38:51and the guy didn't really seem very interested in it and, um,
0:38:51 > 0:38:56I'd just finished a part-time archaeology course and my eye was just really intrigued by it.
0:38:56 > 0:39:04- Ah, right.- I knew because it had kind of sandy earth, I presumed it was some type of funeral offering.
0:39:04 > 0:39:06- Er, yes, indeed these were grave goods.- Right.
0:39:06 > 0:39:09Almost invariably they were buried and having been dug up,
0:39:09 > 0:39:15you get this incrustation and you get all this wonderful colour building up here.
0:39:15 > 0:39:17- Is it cast bronze?- This is, this is cast bronze,
0:39:17 > 0:39:20and the copper is coming through,
0:39:20 > 0:39:24and that's because of acid attack by the soil.
0:39:24 > 0:39:30The thing that worries me is that this would normally be what we call a Bi Disc,
0:39:30 > 0:39:35- B-I, which actually has a hole in the middle.- Yeah, I've seen those. - You've seen those?- Yes.
0:39:35 > 0:39:38And were they buried under the elbows and above the head?
0:39:38 > 0:39:43- They were all over the place. - Yes.- And nobody has any idea what they were meant for,
0:39:43 > 0:39:49- it's supposed to be for discerning the future and stuff.- Yeah, I read somewhere when I was researching it,
0:39:49 > 0:39:53- the really rich people had like shrouds of jade...- That's right,
0:39:53 > 0:39:56this would have been buried with somebody with, of serious..
0:39:56 > 0:39:59- What sort of level of...- Oh, serious, highly important official.
0:39:59 > 0:40:01- Like a priest? - Probably not a priest,
0:40:01 > 0:40:04but a highly important official would have this.
0:40:04 > 0:40:06Now, how much did you pay for it?
0:40:06 > 0:40:12Well, he wanted like £50, and I had no money and I bartered him down to 30 quid.
0:40:12 > 0:40:15OK, now I'm going to put you out of your misery.
0:40:15 > 0:40:18- How old is it?- Couple of years.
0:40:18 > 0:40:21Oh, no! You're joking, are you joking?
0:40:21 > 0:40:23- Are you joking?- I'm not.
0:40:23 > 0:40:28- Oh, no!- I'm sorry, I'm sorry.- Oh!
0:40:28 > 0:40:31- I'm really upset.- But hang on, I haven't finished yet.
0:40:31 > 0:40:34- I haven't finished yet. - Oh, God, my life's over.
0:40:34 > 0:40:38- No, it's not.- I thought it was important...- It's not.- OK.
0:40:38 > 0:40:42Listen, we are looking to the future.
0:40:42 > 0:40:48- This class of ware, this class of ware is coming from China.- Mmm.
0:40:48 > 0:40:50They are casting it, they are carving it...
0:40:50 > 0:40:55- Yes.- ..because they still can afford the skilled craftsmen to do it.
0:40:55 > 0:41:00- This is...- Is it cast from an original?- No, I don't think so. It's a fantastic bit of work.
0:41:00 > 0:41:07- This is my prediction for the future. - Yes.- Now, you will not normally hear an expert,
0:41:07 > 0:41:14- as so called, predicting that a forgery was something to buy. - It's like a stab to the heart!
0:41:14 > 0:41:20But if you can find that for 30 quid, go out and buy them.
0:41:20 > 0:41:24Your children are going to thank you.
0:41:25 > 0:41:28- Oh, God! - Thank you for being so brave.
0:41:28 > 0:41:32- Oh, I'm so upset about that. - I'm sorry.- I love it though.
0:41:32 > 0:41:35- I'll always keep it.- For 30 quid, I would have bought that...
0:41:35 > 0:41:39I'd always envisaged, I thought it was like 2,400 years old...
0:41:39 > 0:41:44Listen, if this was real, it would be worth close on a million pounds.
0:41:44 > 0:41:48Oh, God! Oh, I love it though, thank you for letting me know about it.
0:41:51 > 0:41:55It feels like a real party atmosphere today, here we are in the sunshine at the sea front.
0:41:55 > 0:41:59- What we really need's a bit of rock and roll, thank you for bringing it.- My pleasure.
0:41:59 > 0:42:04- So, Rock-Ola, Chicago Company, 1960s jukebox.- Yes.
0:42:04 > 0:42:06Are you a passionate jukebox man?
0:42:06 > 0:42:08Jukebox and rock and roll, yes.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11- I'd never have guessed!- No.
0:42:11 > 0:42:14So this is one of what, several jukeboxes you've got?
0:42:14 > 0:42:17I've got two and I've got a third one on its way.
0:42:17 > 0:42:19And a whole lot of records, it looks like.
0:42:19 > 0:42:21Hundreds and hundreds.
0:42:21 > 0:42:25- So there are what, 50 in here? - Yes, 50.- 50 in here.
0:42:25 > 0:42:29And I mean, the thing about this, which is a small Rock-Ola because you know,
0:42:29 > 0:42:31sometimes they're much wider, bigger,
0:42:31 > 0:42:37is I suppose this fits into a small, more domestic scene rather than a cafe or a club.
0:42:37 > 0:42:40Well, this particular model we used to have in the '60s
0:42:40 > 0:42:45in the coffee bars in Tunbridge Wells where I used to live. This model was in all the coffee bars.
0:42:45 > 0:42:50- So, that's why I got it, as nostalgia.- So it takes you right back.- Right back.
0:42:50 > 0:42:54OK, so it's a piece of nostalgia, but it's a valuable piece of nostalgia.
0:42:54 > 0:42:59I would have thought today we're talking about £2,000, £2,500.
0:42:59 > 0:43:05And I think we ought to just let it play out, when what else could it play us out on, except...
0:43:05 > 0:43:07- J9?- J9.
0:43:12 > 0:43:17MUSIC: "Summertime Blues" by Eddie Cochran
0:43:24 > 0:43:26Can you jive?
0:43:26 > 0:43:27I can.
0:43:51 > 0:43:54Well, I think that's what's known as a successful exercise.
0:43:54 > 0:43:58We have confirmed that modernism is alive and well and has a great future.
0:43:58 > 0:44:03I have to admit to a great affinity with this building, the De La Warr Pavilion,
0:44:03 > 0:44:06because we were both dreamed up in the same year.
0:44:06 > 0:44:09The difference is, the building still looks exciting.
0:44:09 > 0:44:15Many thanks to everyone who helped us with this special edition, and from Bexhill-on-Sea, goodbye.
0:44:37 > 0:44:41Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd