0:00:03 > 0:00:04Welcome to St Andrews,
0:00:04 > 0:00:08which sits at the edge of the North Sea on the east coast of Scotland.
0:00:08 > 0:00:11In medieval times, the shrine of St Andrews
0:00:11 > 0:00:14was one of the most important places in the world for pilgrims.
0:00:14 > 0:00:17These days, pilgrims come here for very different reasons -
0:00:17 > 0:00:22to play on famous golf courses, to attend Scotland's oldest university
0:00:22 > 0:00:26or just to soak up the history that can be found all around the town.
0:00:26 > 0:00:31Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from beautiful St Andrews.
0:01:18 > 0:01:20Until the 15th century,
0:01:20 > 0:01:23if you lived in Scotland and wanted a serious education,
0:01:23 > 0:01:27you had to travel, sometimes to England and mainly to France,
0:01:27 > 0:01:31but when political and religious tensions erupted across Europe,
0:01:31 > 0:01:34it became too dangerous for Scots to travel abroad
0:01:34 > 0:01:35to foreign universities.
0:01:37 > 0:01:41There was only one thing for it. The country needed its own university.
0:01:41 > 0:01:44And the ideal place was St Andrews which was, by then,
0:01:44 > 0:01:48a thriving cathedral city full of theologians and monks.
0:01:48 > 0:01:52Perfect to take on the task of educating Scottish students.
0:01:54 > 0:01:55With the Pope's blessing,
0:01:55 > 0:01:58the university first opened its doors in 1410
0:01:58 > 0:02:00but it wasn't until a few years later
0:02:00 > 0:02:03that Scotland's oldest university celebrated
0:02:03 > 0:02:06with a service in the cathedral and bonfires in the streets.
0:02:06 > 0:02:10# Jesu Christe
0:02:12 > 0:02:16# Jesu Christe... #
0:02:21 > 0:02:23Life for the students was monastic.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26Aged 13, they'd be up at five, mass at six,
0:02:26 > 0:02:30lessons at seven, all in Latin, all before breakfast,
0:02:30 > 0:02:33and then afterwards more lessons and more prayers,
0:02:33 > 0:02:36and they certainly weren't allowed to enjoy themselves.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39I mean, they weren't allowed out without permission.
0:02:39 > 0:02:41Very different from student life today.
0:02:45 > 0:02:49One tradition the students DO still enjoy here is Raisin Monday.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52For centuries, when freshers begin here at university,
0:02:52 > 0:02:55an older student took them under their wing to show them the ropes,
0:02:55 > 0:02:57and to show their gratitude,
0:02:57 > 0:02:59the freshers presented the senior student,
0:02:59 > 0:03:02here in the cloisters, with a pound of raisins,
0:03:02 > 0:03:04which was once a very expensive treat.
0:03:04 > 0:03:07These days, more likely to be a bottle of wine.
0:03:07 > 0:03:12600 years on, the university has recently launched its celebrations
0:03:12 > 0:03:17with a visit from a famous couple who met while studying here at St Andrews.
0:03:17 > 0:03:19Who could I possibly mean?
0:03:19 > 0:03:22Of course, I'm referring to Prince William and Kate Middleton,
0:03:22 > 0:03:25now the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.
0:03:25 > 0:03:28Following in those royal footsteps are our specialists,
0:03:28 > 0:03:32who are soaking up the surroundings of St Andrews' oldest college,
0:03:32 > 0:03:33St Salvator's.
0:03:33 > 0:03:38If I was going to have a wee dram on a cold morning in St Andrews,
0:03:38 > 0:03:42this is certainly a nice, big piece to take it out of.
0:03:42 > 0:03:43I think you're right!
0:03:43 > 0:03:46And where did you get this wonderful piece?
0:03:46 > 0:03:47Well, I retired in 1996
0:03:47 > 0:03:50and I was invited to take my office furniture with me.
0:03:50 > 0:03:53The centrepiece of my office
0:03:53 > 0:03:56was a three-piece leather Chesterfield suite.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59I didn't need it but there was no point in leaving it behind
0:03:59 > 0:04:01so I just took it away.
0:04:01 > 0:04:06Simultaneously, my stepdaughter had bought a little hotel in the country
0:04:06 > 0:04:10and rummaging around in the attic one day she came across this whisky jar.
0:04:10 > 0:04:12Now, she had no use for the whisky jar
0:04:12 > 0:04:15and I had no use for this suite, so we did a swap.
0:04:15 > 0:04:17There was a problem, however,
0:04:17 > 0:04:21because the cork seal, or gasket,
0:04:21 > 0:04:23had dried out over the years
0:04:23 > 0:04:26and you couldn't get the top off.
0:04:27 > 0:04:31So, I filled a bath with hot, soapy water,
0:04:31 > 0:04:34and my wife was kind enough to pass this in to me
0:04:34 > 0:04:38and I wrestled with it like... Rrr! And I got the top off it!
0:04:38 > 0:04:41We then got it all cleaned out and washed out
0:04:41 > 0:04:44and filled up with the finest Speyside malt.
0:04:44 > 0:04:47And are you a fan of the finest Speyside malt?
0:04:47 > 0:04:50Oh, I think so, yes! Everyone in St Andrews is a fan,
0:04:50 > 0:04:52or at least all my friends are.
0:04:52 > 0:04:55They certainly are! Well, it's a marvellous jar.
0:04:55 > 0:05:00Obviously originally for a retailer, maybe a pub, maybe a shop somewhere.
0:05:00 > 0:05:02Yep.
0:05:02 > 0:05:03Possibly made by...
0:05:03 > 0:05:06I've seen some of these made by a company in Glasgow
0:05:06 > 0:05:10- called John Baird & Son Glassmakers. - Right.- Not definitely but possibly.
0:05:10 > 0:05:15It's a wonderful shape and lovely little detailing here
0:05:15 > 0:05:18- with the "Old Scotch" on it.- Yeah.
0:05:18 > 0:05:21And made in the late 19th century, so...
0:05:21 > 0:05:25It would certainly take quite... Do you know how much it actually takes?
0:05:25 > 0:05:28No, I've never had enough money to fill it right up!
0:05:28 > 0:05:30- It could certainly take quite a lot. - More than a case.
0:05:30 > 0:05:34- It would take more than a case.- Yep. - What does it taste like, dare I ask?
0:05:34 > 0:05:36- Do you want a wee taste? - A wee dram?- A wee dram!
0:05:36 > 0:05:39- Yous just help yourself, lassie. - Oh, right!
0:05:39 > 0:05:41Well, this is a first.
0:05:41 > 0:05:45Not that I would ever have a wee nip of whisky at this time in the morning,
0:05:45 > 0:05:47- but there you go.- Quite right.
0:05:49 > 0:05:50Oh...!
0:05:50 > 0:05:51Wonderful!
0:05:53 > 0:05:56I'd be accused of advertising if I said what whisky it was, I suppose.
0:05:56 > 0:06:00I think you would... Oh, wow! That's...glorious.
0:06:01 > 0:06:05This is a lovely piece and I think if you came to sell this,
0:06:05 > 0:06:09it would go for £800 to £1,000.
0:06:09 > 0:06:12Well, I'll no' be selling it, so it doesn't matter!
0:06:12 > 0:06:14I'd be a social outcast in St Andrews
0:06:14 > 0:06:17if that were to disappear from my dining room!
0:06:17 > 0:06:20I understand this is a real Scottish heirloom?
0:06:20 > 0:06:22Apparently.
0:06:26 > 0:06:29This, here, is what it's all about. Could you read that for me?
0:06:29 > 0:06:33I'll have a go. "This China Dish was used by His Royal Highness, Prince Charles Edward,
0:06:33 > 0:06:37"as his Porridge Cup when halted in the house of the Reverend Alexander Keith
0:06:37 > 0:06:41"from Inverness. After the disaster of Culloden it was obtained by his daughter,
0:06:41 > 0:06:44"afterwards Lady Naismyth, and left by him as an heirloom to the family."
0:06:44 > 0:06:47Fantastic, so... Sorry, that was Charles Edward Stuart?
0:06:47 > 0:06:50- Bonnie Prince. - Bonnie Prince Charlie.- Yep.
0:06:50 > 0:06:51Bonnie Prince Charlie.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54- We have this on a paper label on this bowl.- Mm-hm.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57Can you tell a bit me more about how this came into your family?
0:06:57 > 0:07:00It was Reverend Alexander Keith, my six-times great-grandfather,
0:07:00 > 0:07:03so it's come through the family line from there,
0:07:03 > 0:07:05through Lady Naismyth and then to our line.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07Ah. That's very, very good.
0:07:07 > 0:07:11- Now, Bonnie Prince Charlie. Culloden was, what, 1746?- Yeah.
0:07:11 > 0:07:14That's right. So after 1746, we're talking about.
0:07:15 > 0:07:19Let's have a little think about this story, let's look at the bowl.
0:07:19 > 0:07:23Japanese porcelain around about 1680, 1700,
0:07:23 > 0:07:26- so actually that could possibly tie up.- Yes.
0:07:26 > 0:07:29This sort of porcelain was made in Arita. It's Imari-decorated.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32And it was made for the great houses of Europe.
0:07:32 > 0:07:34It was made for the royal palaces and stately homes.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37So this is the sort of place that Bonnie Prince Charlie
0:07:37 > 0:07:38might've gone to.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42I'm usually very suspicious of paper labels on objects.
0:07:42 > 0:07:47You see pieces of wood saying, "A piece of the true cross."
0:07:47 > 0:07:51How many pairs of Queen Victoria's stockings have we seen
0:07:51 > 0:07:52with labels saying that?
0:07:52 > 0:07:56This label, without you being able to verify that,
0:07:56 > 0:07:59- is more or less...- Take it with a pinch of salt.- Absolutely.
0:07:59 > 0:08:02But you can trace that back through the family
0:08:02 > 0:08:05- and that counts for a great deal. - Right.- Very, important.
0:08:05 > 0:08:07- So don't lose it.- Absolutely.
0:08:07 > 0:08:09Well...
0:08:09 > 0:08:14From a commercial point of view it's quite...an interesting...one.
0:08:16 > 0:08:20If you take away the label and the provenance attached to this bowl,
0:08:20 > 0:08:24on the market it's maybe £150, £200, even though it's 300 years old.
0:08:24 > 0:08:26Yep, yep.
0:08:27 > 0:08:29If this can be backed up, this label...
0:08:29 > 0:08:30Right.
0:08:30 > 0:08:32If you all, through the family,
0:08:32 > 0:08:36can confirm that that is absolutely right,
0:08:36 > 0:08:39- it's going to be...ten times that. - Oh, right.
0:08:39 > 0:08:42- Maybe, it could be 2,000, maybe £3,000...- Gee, whiz!
0:08:42 > 0:08:45- ..as a piece of Jacobite memorabilia.- Right.
0:08:47 > 0:08:52So, here we are looking at an old lady.
0:08:53 > 0:08:57- I don't know who she is. Who is she? - She's my four-times great-granny.
0:08:57 > 0:08:59- Four times?- Four times.
0:08:59 > 0:09:02And she's known in the family as Granny Melville
0:09:02 > 0:09:04but she was Margaret Iles when she was born,
0:09:04 > 0:09:08and the name's been handed down and I'm the fourth one.
0:09:08 > 0:09:10You're the fourth Margaret Iles?
0:09:10 > 0:09:12- Yes, it misses a generation each time.- Oh, I see.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15- How many children did she have? - 13 that we know of.
0:09:15 > 0:09:16She must have...
0:09:16 > 0:09:20She must be the progenitor of most of the families round here then.
0:09:20 > 0:09:23That's what it says, progenitor of many families in Kirkcaldy -
0:09:23 > 0:09:25the Beveridges, the Guthries
0:09:25 > 0:09:28and I can't...the Williamsons - and I can't remember all the others.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32I picked this out because I thought it was just such a good portrait
0:09:32 > 0:09:36of about 1860 I'd say. Would that be right for the date of the lady?
0:09:36 > 0:09:40She was born in 1778 and she died in 1874.
0:09:40 > 0:09:43She was 96 years and seven months when she died.
0:09:43 > 0:09:47- Crikey, she did terribly well.- She outlived her husband by 50-odd years.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50Obviously she wasn't worn out!
0:09:50 > 0:09:54I just thought it was such a good portrait, so psychological somehow,
0:09:54 > 0:09:57and it's caught a wonderful sense of humour, which she'd have needed
0:09:57 > 0:10:01with 13 children, that's for sure, and incredible strength of character
0:10:01 > 0:10:05and a twinkle in her eye. It's completely beguiling, isn't it?
0:10:05 > 0:10:06I love looking at it.
0:10:06 > 0:10:10I'm afraid I don't know who it's by, which...
0:10:10 > 0:10:14- That's what I really wanted to know. - Of course it is. But, you know,
0:10:14 > 0:10:16sometimes you can't know, it's just not possible.
0:10:16 > 0:10:19There are too many local people, you see,
0:10:19 > 0:10:24and they are all of them trained. At this time in the 1860s,
0:10:24 > 0:10:26there were plenty of people who could have done it.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29But a way of finding out - you need specialist local knowledge -
0:10:29 > 0:10:32- is to write to the Scottish National Portrait Gallery...- Right.
0:10:32 > 0:10:37..and show them a photograph of it. There may be some local suspects
0:10:37 > 0:10:40who could fit the bill and give you an idea at least.
0:10:40 > 0:10:46In market terms - worth about £1,000 to £2,000 at the very most.
0:10:46 > 0:10:50- In personal terms... - She's priceless.- ..incalculable.
0:10:50 > 0:10:53- Yes.- Thanks ever so.- Thank you.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04Every week at the Antiques Roadshow we see countless objects that,
0:11:04 > 0:11:07to the untrained eye, can look almost identical.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10I mean, I often wonder why a teapot, for example, can be worth
0:11:10 > 0:11:13a few pounds and then another teapot can be worth thousands of pounds.
0:11:13 > 0:11:16Well, to test my powers of observation and yours at home,
0:11:16 > 0:11:19our experts are setting us a challenge in this series,
0:11:19 > 0:11:22bringing along objects that perform an identical function,
0:11:22 > 0:11:24but have very different values.
0:11:24 > 0:11:27This week it's the turn of jewellery specialist Geoffrey Munn.
0:11:27 > 0:11:29He has brought along three cigarette cases.
0:11:29 > 0:11:35Now have a look - one is a basic model worth £150 to £200.
0:11:35 > 0:11:38One is a better model - well, considerably better
0:11:38 > 0:11:40because it's worth £7,000 to £8,000.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43And then the best one is worth,
0:11:43 > 0:11:47in my mind anyway, a staggering £100,000.
0:11:47 > 0:11:51Now he'll be telling us a little bit later on, which it is,
0:11:51 > 0:11:54but, first of all, I'll ask our visitors to see if they can guess.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57Come on, guys, have a look. One of them is a hundred grand.
0:11:57 > 0:11:59So, what do you think?
0:11:59 > 0:12:03You're all pointing at something different, that's no help at all!
0:12:04 > 0:12:08The decision to admit women to the university in 1877
0:12:08 > 0:12:13was very controversial. It was thought by the men
0:12:13 > 0:12:17that this was not a good...not a good move, to maintain standards.
0:12:17 > 0:12:21And indeed there was a protest by the students
0:12:21 > 0:12:24and the members of College at the time,
0:12:24 > 0:12:26where they walked down to the pier.
0:12:26 > 0:12:31At the end of the pier, they hurled their academic caps into the sea.
0:12:32 > 0:12:35That's the reason why there are no degrees for men
0:12:35 > 0:12:38at St Andrews that actually have an academic cap.
0:12:38 > 0:12:43It was also decided therefore, that women couldn't be...
0:12:43 > 0:12:45get the same degree as a man.
0:12:45 > 0:12:50- So they dreamed up this new scheme which was a lady's degree...- Yes.
0:12:50 > 0:12:58..LLA or Lady Literate in Arts. And it was given to them,
0:12:58 > 0:13:01- they wore it on a sash, and this is an original sash.- Like this, yes.
0:13:01 > 0:13:08- They wore that and it was in the place of a gown or cap.- Excellent.
0:13:08 > 0:13:11Where did you get them from?
0:13:11 > 0:13:16Well, this one came from...I bought it in '84 soon after I arrived here.
0:13:16 > 0:13:19And that came from what you might describe as a junk shop
0:13:19 > 0:13:21in Garbridge quite nearby, long since gone.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23- I think I paid £8 for it.- Right.
0:13:23 > 0:13:27- Well...- I thought it was desperately rare until about a week ago,
0:13:27 > 0:13:30when, on an internet site,
0:13:30 > 0:13:34- I found this.- Well I'm glad to say they are both silver, these,
0:13:34 > 0:13:39and for £8 I think your investment was rather good.
0:13:39 > 0:13:43From one side of the world, we go right across to
0:13:43 > 0:13:44the other side of the world
0:13:44 > 0:13:49because you've got a really lovely decorative silver goblet here,
0:13:49 > 0:13:53that, I think it's not too hard to see -
0:13:53 > 0:13:58- with all these figures on the side - that it comes from China.- Mm-hm.
0:13:58 > 0:14:02It's got typical sort of really profuse figures
0:14:02 > 0:14:05and foliage round the side, absolutely what you'd expect
0:14:05 > 0:14:09from a piece of silver made in the last quarter of the 19th century.
0:14:09 > 0:14:15Most importantly, if we turn it up and look at the bottom,
0:14:15 > 0:14:19it's got the mark LC - that's for Leeching of Shanghai,
0:14:19 > 0:14:24prolific maker in the 1870s-1880s.
0:14:24 > 0:14:29So you've actually got a very nice piece of silver by a good maker.
0:14:30 > 0:14:34And if we start with the two badges,
0:14:34 > 0:14:36their value is almost certainly going to be
0:14:36 > 0:14:43to someone in and around St Andrews. They could be worth hundreds,
0:14:43 > 0:14:47it just depends who would want them, and how much they would want them,
0:14:47 > 0:14:52but they're certainly lovely things, rare things.
0:14:52 > 0:14:56The Chinese goblet though is rather a different matter.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58Can you remember what you paid for it?
0:14:58 > 0:15:02- I think about £140.- 140?- It was a lot of money in those days, to me.
0:15:02 > 0:15:06- That was. It's a lot of money to everyone.- Mm-hm.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09But not as much as it's worth now, because I would comfortably
0:15:09 > 0:15:14say that's worth at least £2,000 now, probably more.
0:15:14 > 0:15:15- Good grief!- Yeah.
0:15:19 > 0:15:24They came into our family in 1939 through a great-aunt.
0:15:24 > 0:15:27Was she out in China? A missionary or something?
0:15:27 > 0:15:28No, as far as I know,
0:15:28 > 0:15:33she was a nursing attendant to Reginald Johnston.
0:15:33 > 0:15:37- Who he?- He was in fact the tutor to the last emperor in China.
0:15:37 > 0:15:39- Ah, to Pu Yi.- Pu Yi, yes.
0:15:39 > 0:15:44- Now prior to that, we would need to go back to Yuan Shih-kai.- Yes.
0:15:44 > 0:15:50Who tried to reinstate dynastic rule in 1916.
0:15:50 > 0:15:56Yeah, yeah, so the question is - are they made for the Emperor Pu Yi,
0:15:56 > 0:16:00or Yuan Shih-kai, or are they Republic?
0:16:00 > 0:16:04Yuan Shih-kai gifted them to the Emperor,
0:16:04 > 0:16:07who, in turn, gifted them to Reginald Johnston
0:16:07 > 0:16:09who took them back.
0:16:09 > 0:16:13That is the most fantastic pedigree, if we can prove it.
0:16:13 > 0:16:17- There is a slip of paper, yes. - A slip of paper?- Yes.- Perfect.
0:16:17 > 0:16:18That's just what we want,
0:16:18 > 0:16:23I mean - you know - that is as good as it could get, really.
0:16:24 > 0:16:30Yeah, poor Pu Yi - he was the last emperor and he ended his days,
0:16:30 > 0:16:34after the Republic was declared, as a gardener,
0:16:34 > 0:16:38which he was for 60 or 70 years, something like that.
0:16:38 > 0:16:40There was that wonderful film
0:16:40 > 0:16:43that was made of the sort of end of his time.
0:16:43 > 0:16:47My favourite bit was - actually, I'm not sure it came in the film,
0:16:47 > 0:16:51maybe it was in the book. Once he was banished,
0:16:51 > 0:16:57the Forbidden City was emptied and this retinue of the emperor -
0:16:57 > 0:16:58ex-emperor -
0:16:58 > 0:17:02and all the servants, the concubines,
0:17:02 > 0:17:05and wives - everybody came out in a file,
0:17:05 > 0:17:09and it took something like ten hours for them to all empty out
0:17:09 > 0:17:13and in the middle were the eunuchs.
0:17:13 > 0:17:17Now, eunuchs actually controlled everything in China -
0:17:17 > 0:17:19they were the administrators.
0:17:19 > 0:17:25And they came out weeping copiously because their livelihoods
0:17:25 > 0:17:30were now gone, and holding a little jar in which was their testicles.
0:17:30 > 0:17:32THEY CHUCKLE
0:17:32 > 0:17:35Maybe they were hoping they could be put back, I don't know.
0:17:37 > 0:17:41- And then he ended up in a garden. - That's right, yes.- As a gardener.
0:17:41 > 0:17:46- Yes. - And apparently was quite happy.- Yes.
0:17:46 > 0:17:51We're talking about a date in the early years of the 20th century,
0:17:51 > 0:17:59and this kind of painting that we've got on here is much more akin
0:17:59 > 0:18:03to classical scroll painting than it is to ceramic painting.
0:18:03 > 0:18:10And this way of treating a tree with a black trunk and branches,
0:18:10 > 0:18:13and little dots of colour for the leaves
0:18:13 > 0:18:17or flowers, very characteristic of the period,
0:18:17 > 0:18:21as is this wash of green with the black on it.
0:18:21 > 0:18:26So I have no doubt that they date from that period.
0:18:27 > 0:18:32What one would like to find on the bottom is a Yuan Shih-kai mark.
0:18:35 > 0:18:39And we don't got - as the film says.
0:18:39 > 0:18:42Yes, we've got - that's "hall", that's "made for" -
0:18:42 > 0:18:47so it's made for the hall of the "benevolent"...
0:18:47 > 0:18:48And benevolence, yes.
0:18:50 > 0:18:56They made various changes to this mark, for different halls,
0:18:56 > 0:19:01but what's nice about it is it's brilliantly painted -
0:19:01 > 0:19:04that is a really top-class mark.
0:19:06 > 0:19:08The handles are unusual, dragon handles.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11The emperor's symbol was a dragon.
0:19:11 > 0:19:15Sadly we've got a lot of damage to the handles -
0:19:15 > 0:19:19they've been off and stuck back again - but it's not a killer.
0:19:19 > 0:19:22The Chinese market, as you probably realise,
0:19:22 > 0:19:28has gone mad in the last two or three years.
0:19:28 > 0:19:34They like very much porcelain which up to this point
0:19:34 > 0:19:37we would not have rated.
0:19:37 > 0:19:41A few years ago, I would have put that in a sale...
0:19:41 > 0:19:44those pair in a sale with the damage,
0:19:44 > 0:19:48£200 to £300 and they wouldn't have fetched any more than that -
0:19:48 > 0:19:51that's all they would have made.
0:19:51 > 0:19:56And now, with fingers crossed,
0:19:56 > 0:19:59we could be looking at £20,000 to £30,000.
0:20:01 > 0:20:06But if they made more, I would not be in the least surprised.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13The bad hair, the maniacal grin, the knobbly knees,
0:20:13 > 0:20:17it could be me at the end of an Antiques Roadshow day,
0:20:17 > 0:20:21but in fact it is, of course, Dennis the Menace and his dog Gnasher.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24And I'm surrounded by Beano, Dandy,
0:20:24 > 0:20:27Warlord, they're sort of icons, certainly these two are,
0:20:27 > 0:20:28from my childhood.
0:20:28 > 0:20:32Wonderful pieces of artwork. How did you get them?
0:20:32 > 0:20:37We were surveying a warehouse that we'd purchased in Dundee,
0:20:37 > 0:20:40formerly a DC Thomson's warehouse.
0:20:40 > 0:20:46Now, we ought to say DC Thomson is perhaps THE best-known publisher,
0:20:46 > 0:20:49dealing with comics and still in business today,
0:20:49 > 0:20:50printing newspapers and so on.
0:20:50 > 0:20:54But Dundee is perhaps best known for DC Thomson and in fact I think
0:20:54 > 0:20:57- in Dundee there is a statue, isn't there, of Desperate Dan?- Yes.
0:20:57 > 0:20:59Striding down Dundee High Street.
0:20:59 > 0:21:03Yes, and in part of the warehouse there was an old boiler housing,
0:21:03 > 0:21:08obviously not used for decades. Black, no electricity, no lighting,
0:21:08 > 0:21:12so had the torches out, having a good root about to see what was in there.
0:21:12 > 0:21:14- As you do.- As you do.
0:21:14 > 0:21:18And there was some boarding over in the far corner,
0:21:18 > 0:21:22so these were facing the wall, so we couldn't actually see what they were,
0:21:22 > 0:21:24and then when we pulled them back, to reveal these,
0:21:24 > 0:21:26I thought, "They're fantastic."
0:21:27 > 0:21:31Now, I hope I'm right in saying that
0:21:31 > 0:21:34- DC Thomson are aware that you have these.- Yeah, yeah.
0:21:34 > 0:21:38A representative for them came along to the building. There was some other
0:21:38 > 0:21:41artwork there and they actually destroyed it on the spot.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43- What, tore it up?- Tore it up.
0:21:43 > 0:21:47And we said, "And these?" They said, "No, they're old display boards,
0:21:47 > 0:21:50"we're not interested in retrieving those, you can have them."
0:21:50 > 0:21:53- So you basically got sign-off. - Yeah.- Right, great.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56Well, I mean let's just talk a bit about these images.
0:21:56 > 0:22:01The Beano started in 1938, Dennis the Menace with his... What was it?
0:22:01 > 0:22:04Not as fine a dog as yours here,
0:22:04 > 0:22:10but I think wasn't Gnasher an Abyssinian wire-haired tripe hound?
0:22:10 > 0:22:13- OK.- Something like that, obviously not as purebred as your own.
0:22:13 > 0:22:16As far as dating the artwork is concerned,
0:22:16 > 0:22:21there are some clues, and that is that Dennis
0:22:21 > 0:22:26didn't actually make it onto the front cover of Beano until 1974.
0:22:26 > 0:22:31With Dandy, Desperate Dan didn't make it to the front cover
0:22:31 > 0:22:35of Dandy until about 1985.
0:22:35 > 0:22:38And as we know, Warlord didn't exist before 1974,
0:22:38 > 0:22:41it went out of business in 1986,
0:22:41 > 0:22:46so I would say that these are all dating from that '83-'84-'85 period.
0:22:46 > 0:22:48So that sort of nails the date.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51As far as value's concerned,
0:22:51 > 0:22:55I am sure that we're talking about
0:22:55 > 0:22:58a couple of thousand pounds each, if not more.
0:22:58 > 0:23:01Typical things to sell on the internet,
0:23:01 > 0:23:04if you ever decided to part with them.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07But no, I mean, to me, it's brought back
0:23:07 > 0:23:09a lot of memories, and thanks very much indeed
0:23:09 > 0:23:10- for bringing them in.- Thank you.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13# Dennis the Menace
0:23:13 > 0:23:15# He's a bundle of dynamite
0:23:15 > 0:23:18# Oh, the things he says and the things he does
0:23:18 > 0:23:21# Will make you shake with fright... #
0:23:21 > 0:23:25- What are you studying? - Maths.- Well, that's no use at all.
0:23:25 > 0:23:27# You'd better be on your toes... #
0:23:27 > 0:23:29I think this one's the best.
0:23:29 > 0:23:32# Bound to be a calamity no matter where he goes... #
0:23:32 > 0:23:37- If I get the 100,000 one right, do I get it?- Sadly, no.
0:23:37 > 0:23:38Nice try, though.
0:23:38 > 0:23:40# When he looks at you with those eyes of blue
0:23:40 > 0:23:43# He'll steal you heart away... #
0:23:47 > 0:23:48I think your bronze
0:23:48 > 0:23:52might be described as something of a conversation piece,
0:23:52 > 0:23:55so I'm intrigued to know for how many generations
0:23:55 > 0:23:59she's been causing a little bit of chat in your family.
0:24:01 > 0:24:07Well, my great-grandfather bought her, so I'm told,
0:24:07 > 0:24:10and she's just always been in the family.
0:24:10 > 0:24:14In fact quite a few of the family possessions were used
0:24:14 > 0:24:18- during the Great Depression to pay bills.- OK.
0:24:18 > 0:24:21So this is one of the few things that survived.
0:24:21 > 0:24:23So let's have a look at your lady
0:24:23 > 0:24:29and I have to say that I find her totally fascinating and beguiling
0:24:29 > 0:24:34because I've never seen a posture of... No, I didn't!
0:24:34 > 0:24:36- Would you please? - LAUGHTER
0:24:36 > 0:24:40I've never seen a posture of this type before.
0:24:40 > 0:24:43And so it comes under the heading of innovative,
0:24:43 > 0:24:48and then I look at the way that it's been worked. And I'm thinking
0:24:48 > 0:24:53this has been made to go in a certain position,
0:24:53 > 0:24:54either in a library -
0:24:54 > 0:24:57I mean it's got a more of a gentleman's feel to it.
0:24:57 > 0:25:00And I notice there's a signature round here -
0:25:00 > 0:25:01if I can show it - down here.
0:25:01 > 0:25:06And it says "Crenda". Now, I don't know who Crenda is -
0:25:06 > 0:25:09I've got to put my hand up - but what I do know
0:25:09 > 0:25:12is that he is a very credible sculptor,
0:25:12 > 0:25:16because I think that this just needs a sort of a waxing
0:25:16 > 0:25:19and it'll be brought back to, you know, total life.
0:25:19 > 0:25:26- Does she have a name in your family? - My mother just said she was Psyche.
0:25:26 > 0:25:28Psyche. So what price
0:25:28 > 0:25:31a bronze which, date-wise, I would suggest
0:25:31 > 0:25:37is probably around about 1895-1905?
0:25:37 > 0:25:40But you know, if I wanted to buy your Psyche,
0:25:40 > 0:25:45well, I would say round about £1,500 to £2,000.
0:25:45 > 0:25:49- Oh, really?- So I think this is a treasure.- Thank you.
0:25:49 > 0:25:52She is to us and she'll always stay in the family.
0:26:00 > 0:26:03Earlier on, our jewellery specialist, Geoffrey Munn,
0:26:03 > 0:26:04set us all a challenge.
0:26:04 > 0:26:07He brought along three cigarette cases, one a basic model
0:26:07 > 0:26:09worth about £150 to £200,
0:26:09 > 0:26:13a better case, worth in the region of £7,000 to £8,000
0:26:13 > 0:26:17and then the best one, worth a whopping £100,000.
0:26:17 > 0:26:19Our visitors have all had a go at guessing,
0:26:19 > 0:26:22I think I could fair say guessing, so have I.
0:26:22 > 0:26:27Now, Geoffrey, I have to say, this was, so far for me, the hardest,
0:26:27 > 0:26:30because I'd absolutely no idea. Why cigarette cases?
0:26:30 > 0:26:33Because that's not what I would have thought you would bring along.
0:26:33 > 0:26:36Well, they're sort of an extension of jewellery in a way.
0:26:36 > 0:26:37It's a high form of dress
0:26:37 > 0:26:39and there was a time when people
0:26:39 > 0:26:42said they "wore" a cigarette case, because they'd go out to dinner
0:26:42 > 0:26:45in white tie, fantastic studs, cuff links,
0:26:45 > 0:26:48so it was a status symbol at the highest possible level
0:26:48 > 0:26:51and of course the craftsmanship lavished on it
0:26:51 > 0:26:53was also marvellous, as you see here.
0:26:53 > 0:26:55- I mean, deeply unfashionable now... - Yes.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57..to have a cigarette case.
0:26:57 > 0:27:00When were they introduced? When did they become...?
0:27:00 > 0:27:03Well, when people stopped snuffing which was...
0:27:03 > 0:27:05Do you snuff? You stopped in time?
0:27:05 > 0:27:09I've never... No, I have snuffed on a Roadshow once, horrendous!
0:27:09 > 0:27:12Well, snuffing gave way to cigarettes and to smoking,
0:27:12 > 0:27:15and it's just another way of getting the nicotine.
0:27:15 > 0:27:17Well, I decided, just to be contrary,
0:27:17 > 0:27:19because this LOOKS the most expensive,
0:27:19 > 0:27:23- I put it as basic because I thought you might be playing a trick.- Me?!
0:27:23 > 0:27:26- Better - even though this is older. - Yes.
0:27:26 > 0:27:29Best because it's got an inscription that might add to its value.
0:27:29 > 0:27:34- But, to be honest, I've no idea. So, go on.- Help us?
0:27:34 > 0:27:35What should we be looking for?
0:27:35 > 0:27:36Well, in a funny way,
0:27:36 > 0:27:40it was a challenge for me to bring something to muddy the waters
0:27:40 > 0:27:43and you might have assumed that that was the best,
0:27:43 > 0:27:44because it's a massive show
0:27:44 > 0:27:49of gold and it's by Cartier which is one of the great firms.
0:27:49 > 0:27:52- I didn't spot that.- No, no, but anyway that doesn't matter.
0:27:52 > 0:27:55But it's evident and it's an extraordinarily chic object
0:27:55 > 0:27:59and so you could easily be forgiven for thinking that that's best
0:27:59 > 0:28:02and it's a great guess. And then better and why not?
0:28:02 > 0:28:04But the core of this one is silver
0:28:04 > 0:28:06and it's been overlaid with nine-carat gold.
0:28:06 > 0:28:10So its intrinsic value and its status value isn't quite the same.
0:28:10 > 0:28:13The fact that both are engraved detracts from their value.
0:28:13 > 0:28:17- Oh.- Yes, because unless it's a very, very serious provenance,
0:28:17 > 0:28:20perhaps you don't really want to have somebody else's cigarette case
0:28:20 > 0:28:24with a presentation inscription in it that doesn't refer to you.
0:28:24 > 0:28:29The most mysterious and the best one really is this one here.
0:28:29 > 0:28:33- So the one that I put as basic, is the best one?- Well, frankly, yes.
0:28:33 > 0:28:38- And everything else is wrong as well.- Oh, gosh! Right. OK.
0:28:38 > 0:28:41And so the trick has worked. I have beguiled you.
0:28:41 > 0:28:46- I've befuddled you in front of millions of people.- Great.- Great.
0:28:46 > 0:28:49- I'm not at all embarrassed.- Yes.- No.
0:28:49 > 0:28:53All right. So, the basic one is which one, then?
0:28:53 > 0:28:56The basic one is here, and the better one is there
0:28:56 > 0:28:58and the best one is there.
0:28:58 > 0:29:01- Excellent, so all wrong. - A three-card trick.- OK.
0:29:01 > 0:29:03But it's a very specialist area
0:29:03 > 0:29:06and these things are sought after for different reasons.
0:29:06 > 0:29:09So why is this the best one?
0:29:09 > 0:29:12I think, if angels were smoking, this would be their cigarette case.
0:29:12 > 0:29:16This is the most beautiful piece of goldsmith's work
0:29:16 > 0:29:17you could ever hope to see.
0:29:17 > 0:29:20It's so sophisticated.
0:29:20 > 0:29:23It's a complete swan song of goldsmiths' work.
0:29:23 > 0:29:25It comes from 1915 but what makes it so desirable
0:29:25 > 0:29:29and so collectable is that it's made by the most famous goldsmith
0:29:29 > 0:29:32ever to have lived, and it's by Carl Faberge.
0:29:32 > 0:29:34I should have known there'd be a Faberge.
0:29:34 > 0:29:37- You should have known.- Gosh. And where...? How can you tell?
0:29:37 > 0:29:40Well, tiny, tiny marks on the inside.
0:29:40 > 0:29:41The signatures are on the inside.
0:29:41 > 0:29:44- So that's the Faberge signature there.- Yes.
0:29:44 > 0:29:45And the purity of the gold.
0:29:45 > 0:29:48And these here are tiny diamonds, are they?
0:29:48 > 0:29:51Tiny rose diamonds set into platinum, just to help you find
0:29:51 > 0:29:56the clasp for your Faberge cigarette case, when you are at a ball
0:29:56 > 0:30:00- in St Petersburg, dancing. - As you do.- As you do.
0:30:00 > 0:30:03To walk out into the snow where your troika awaits you
0:30:03 > 0:30:07to take you back to your palace with your box, like snow on the ground.
0:30:07 > 0:30:11I mean, that's what that's all about, it's poetry in goldsmith's work.
0:30:11 > 0:30:14Well, given that I thought £100,000 of Faberge cigarette case
0:30:14 > 0:30:15was worth about 150 quid,
0:30:15 > 0:30:17I won't be applying for an apprentice job
0:30:17 > 0:30:20with Geoffrey any time soon.
0:30:20 > 0:30:23Oh, dear. Anyway, if you have a cigarette case at home
0:30:23 > 0:30:26and want to know about how you can tell what it might be worth,
0:30:26 > 0:30:27find out a little bit more about it,
0:30:27 > 0:30:30why don't you look at our website?
0:30:40 > 0:30:43Whenever I see paintings by this particular artist,
0:30:43 > 0:30:46I feel I need my sunglasses on.
0:30:46 > 0:30:49Tretchikoff has always been imprinted in my mind
0:30:49 > 0:30:51as the prints one sees in people's houses,
0:30:51 > 0:30:53certainly in the '50s and '60s -
0:30:53 > 0:30:55because he became well-known through his prints.
0:30:55 > 0:31:00- Yes.- And here we have two original Tretchikoffs. How did you get those?
0:31:00 > 0:31:04Um, I bought them off the internet.
0:31:04 > 0:31:07I've been collecting the prints for years,
0:31:07 > 0:31:11his most iconic print is The Green Lady.
0:31:11 > 0:31:12Absolutely.
0:31:12 > 0:31:19And I've got Miss Wong, and I've got about over 50 original prints,
0:31:19 > 0:31:23but I was really wanting an original.
0:31:23 > 0:31:26And just tell me, do you know the title of this one?
0:31:26 > 0:31:29- Yes, it's Beyond Reality. - And how do you know that?
0:31:29 > 0:31:34The gentleman I bought it off, I've got this catalogue.
0:31:34 > 0:31:38- You found the catalogue?- Yeah. - Could I have a look at it?- Yeah.
0:31:38 > 0:31:41And here we have, listed in this catalogue,
0:31:41 > 0:31:43number 13, Beyond Reality,
0:31:43 > 0:31:48and, interestingly enough, the exhibition was in Durban.
0:31:48 > 0:31:51As we know, he's a South African artist - actually a Russian artist.
0:31:51 > 0:31:54- That's right. - Tretchikoff, who, born in 1913,
0:31:54 > 0:31:59went to South Africa and became very well-known there.
0:31:59 > 0:32:01And the famous print of the lady that you saw,
0:32:01 > 0:32:04produced by Frost and Reed over here - and you often see it
0:32:04 > 0:32:08in all the houses - and that's how artists become well known.
0:32:08 > 0:32:10- They paint a picture, but through prints...- Yes.
0:32:10 > 0:32:13It's a classic thing, you know, about Tretchikoff
0:32:13 > 0:32:17- how he became so well known through his prints.- Yeah.
0:32:17 > 0:32:21And here we have two originals. So you bought them on the internet.
0:32:21 > 0:32:23- Yeah.- And what did you pay for them?
0:32:23 > 0:32:27I paid about 3,500 for two of them,
0:32:27 > 0:32:31but I had to pay a further 1,000 to get that one restored.
0:32:31 > 0:32:35OK. This one is absolutely beautiful
0:32:35 > 0:32:39and I think that that's worth £10,000 to £15,000.
0:32:40 > 0:32:43- That's fabulous. - Yeah. And it could make more.
0:32:43 > 0:32:46That one there, value on that
0:32:46 > 0:32:50would be somewhere in the region of £4,000 to £6,000,
0:32:50 > 0:32:52- maybe £5,000 to £7,000. - That's good too.
0:32:52 > 0:32:55And I think it's extraordinary you bought them
0:32:55 > 0:32:58off the internet for £3,500 for two,
0:32:58 > 0:33:01- because three years ago...- Yeah.
0:33:01 > 0:33:05..when you purchased these, these were making very good money,
0:33:05 > 0:33:07- so you did jolly well. - Yeah, that's smashing.
0:33:10 > 0:33:12Just popped out from work
0:33:12 > 0:33:14for a brief minute and I've got something in my bag
0:33:14 > 0:33:17that I wondered if it would be of any interest, not an antique?
0:33:17 > 0:33:20- What have you got?- It is a programme from a fashion show -
0:33:20 > 0:33:24the Don't Walk Fashion Show - that Kate Middleton appeared in
0:33:24 > 0:33:26when Prince William was in the audience.
0:33:26 > 0:33:29- The transparent thing with her underwear on display?- Yes.
0:33:29 > 0:33:32- Let's see. - Her name's quite clearly mentioned.
0:33:32 > 0:33:35"Kate Middleton" - how fantastic.
0:33:35 > 0:33:38Don't Walk Fashion Show.
0:33:38 > 0:33:40Because, of course, we have seen that image
0:33:40 > 0:33:43and now the dress has sold for a lot of money, hasn't it?
0:33:43 > 0:33:46- Mm.- It's been bought by a private collector.- It has.- So were you
0:33:46 > 0:33:49- at the fashion show?- I was at the fashion show with my sister
0:33:49 > 0:33:53- and we were near William when he was watching...- How exciting.
0:33:53 > 0:33:55..watching her coming down the catwalk.
0:33:55 > 0:34:00How extraordinary. And, of course, after the wedding and, you know,
0:34:00 > 0:34:03so much in the news now, William and Kate, aren't they?
0:34:03 > 0:34:06You've got two copies of it, why's that?
0:34:06 > 0:34:09The top copy is my own copy and the second copy,
0:34:09 > 0:34:12I believe, belongs to William himself.
0:34:12 > 0:34:15I collected it from the table he was sitting at,
0:34:15 > 0:34:17with his party, after they'd left.
0:34:17 > 0:34:20- So that was William's one? - This is William's copy.
0:34:20 > 0:34:23And it's got his thumbprint on it, just there.
0:34:23 > 0:34:26THEY CHUCKLE
0:34:26 > 0:34:30- I can't believe it. You just walked in here with this.- Mm.- Fantastic.
0:34:30 > 0:34:33I didn't think it was going be of any interest, really.
0:34:33 > 0:34:36Well, it is. It may be of value. I couldn't say but you need to see
0:34:36 > 0:34:39- one of our experts. Great.- Good, thank you very much. Thank you.
0:34:41 > 0:34:46- It was very kindly given to me by an elderly aunt.- Really? Recently?
0:34:46 > 0:34:49- Um, yes, a few months back. - And what's her back story with it?
0:34:49 > 0:34:53I mean, just to be given a piece of Moorcroft like this is one thing,
0:34:53 > 0:34:57- but what's the background?- If I'm honest, I don't know.- Really?- Yeah.
0:34:57 > 0:35:00Had you always admired it, or did it arrive in out of the blue?
0:35:00 > 0:35:02More or less, yes. I'd never seen it before.
0:35:02 > 0:35:04I was delighted when I opened it.
0:35:04 > 0:35:07Wow. And was there any sign of sentiment about why it was given?
0:35:07 > 0:35:10As a gift? Or was just time to move it on to a new owner?
0:35:10 > 0:35:12Just time to move on, yeah.
0:35:12 > 0:35:16So takes pride of place in your home, I assume?
0:35:16 > 0:35:21- No, in the spare bedroom out of the hands of small children.- Oh, really?
0:35:21 > 0:35:25- Yeah.- How small?- Very small. - Oh, that small? OK.- Yes.
0:35:25 > 0:35:28Well, it's probably not a bad idea.
0:35:28 > 0:35:32This is Moorcroft quite clearly, but for me this is...
0:35:32 > 0:35:35this is Moorcroft with just some added essence.
0:35:35 > 0:35:39I mean, Moorcroft laid his hands on every single piece that he made,
0:35:39 > 0:35:42every single piece that was decorated in the factory,
0:35:42 > 0:35:46because he was responsible for drawing the tracing paper designs
0:35:46 > 0:35:49that would then be handed to the outliners.
0:35:49 > 0:35:53They would trace over them, onto the body of the pot to tube line,
0:35:53 > 0:35:55but they were following his line,
0:35:55 > 0:35:57they were following his designs.
0:35:57 > 0:35:59So for me, unlike many other pottery designers
0:35:59 > 0:36:01who just handed their work away,
0:36:01 > 0:36:03there is an essence of William Moorcroft
0:36:03 > 0:36:05in every single piece that he produced.
0:36:05 > 0:36:09- And he never relinquished that, you know.- OK.- He stuck with that.
0:36:09 > 0:36:13And this is him on a particularly good day, if you ask my opinion.
0:36:13 > 0:36:17Date-wise, we're somewhere between 1900 and 1905.
0:36:17 > 0:36:21It's that early period where he's found his feet,
0:36:21 > 0:36:24he's working for James Macintyre,
0:36:24 > 0:36:28he's been given this artistic freedom to just go for it,
0:36:28 > 0:36:30and, boy, hasn't he done it here?
0:36:30 > 0:36:34A combination of wonderful shape, beautiful, sinuous handles
0:36:34 > 0:36:36and a pattern that we call "freesia".
0:36:36 > 0:36:38- Freesia, OK.- Absolutely.
0:36:38 > 0:36:41And not only that, it's freesia on a white ground.
0:36:41 > 0:36:44Now, Moorcroft - it is one of those names,
0:36:44 > 0:36:47it's known the length and breadth of the country -
0:36:47 > 0:36:48we all know it.
0:36:48 > 0:36:50But what a lot of people maybe don't realise
0:36:50 > 0:36:54is quite what's happening to Moorcroft at the moment.
0:36:54 > 0:37:00And I am continually stunned on a daily, weekly, monthly basis
0:37:00 > 0:37:03as I watch these pieces change hands from one person to another.
0:37:03 > 0:37:07There seems to be this never-ending admiration
0:37:07 > 0:37:11and respect for a designer of this calibre.
0:37:11 > 0:37:12So that comes down to the point of,
0:37:12 > 0:37:16what would somebody exchange to take this away from you?
0:37:16 > 0:37:19I sense it would have to be something serious, in fact
0:37:19 > 0:37:23- I sense that you love this. - I do, although it's in a spare room,
0:37:23 > 0:37:26I do, I love the colour and the fact it's got the three handles.
0:37:26 > 0:37:27But, yeah, it is quite special.
0:37:27 > 0:37:31Well, "special" is absolutely spot-on, perfect word.
0:37:31 > 0:37:36And special to me, means that if you had to go and replace this,
0:37:36 > 0:37:39and go to a specialist dealer, or somebody who really is
0:37:39 > 0:37:42at the top of the game, and the top of the market with this,
0:37:42 > 0:37:46you're going to have to part with about £8,000.
0:37:46 > 0:37:47Well...
0:37:51 > 0:37:54Now, there's a phrase that has emerged, I don't know why,
0:37:54 > 0:37:58over the last few years, which I am sure you've used, I've used,
0:37:58 > 0:38:02everybody here has used - you see it in every gift shop in Britain,
0:38:02 > 0:38:05- which is... - "Keep calm and carry on."
0:38:05 > 0:38:08And so when I unroll this,
0:38:08 > 0:38:10no-one's going to be surprised at what they see.
0:38:10 > 0:38:16- No.- Because I'm sure everyone's got one somewhere in their office.
0:38:16 > 0:38:19- You seem to have quite a few of them.- Yes, yes.- Why?
0:38:19 > 0:38:22Well, I believe I acquired them
0:38:22 > 0:38:26from my father who was in the Royal Observer Corps.
0:38:26 > 0:38:29I believe that's where my mum and dad actually met.
0:38:29 > 0:38:35The actual background to this famous message runs back to 1940.
0:38:35 > 0:38:39The Germans are about to invade Britain and there was a real fear
0:38:39 > 0:38:42that that was actually to happen, and everybody knows
0:38:42 > 0:38:45if we hadn't won the Battle of Britain, they might have.
0:38:45 > 0:38:50- Yes, yes.- And every post office, every public body in Britain,
0:38:50 > 0:38:54was issued with posters like this and the orders were,
0:38:54 > 0:39:00the moment the Germans set foot in Britain, the posters go up.
0:39:00 > 0:39:04So what the Government was telling the Great British nation
0:39:04 > 0:39:06was, "Keep calm and carry on."
0:39:06 > 0:39:07Yes.
0:39:07 > 0:39:13And, of course, September 1940, invasion off, posters useless -
0:39:13 > 0:39:15- in the bin.- Yes.
0:39:15 > 0:39:17And that was the end of the story
0:39:17 > 0:39:21and of course it was then forgotten about.
0:39:21 > 0:39:25Many, many years ago on a completely different Roadshow,
0:39:25 > 0:39:28a lady came who'd been a postmistress
0:39:28 > 0:39:33in a village in a remote part of Britain, and she brought in a couple
0:39:33 > 0:39:36which were the small size and she told me the story.
0:39:36 > 0:39:39She said that she had them ready, drawing pins in hand,
0:39:39 > 0:39:41and, of course, then nothing happened and in fact,
0:39:41 > 0:39:45at the end of that day, she gave me one of those. She said,
0:39:45 > 0:39:47- "I'm going to throw them away, so have one."- Crivvens.
0:39:47 > 0:39:51And so I did, and I took it home and thought nothing of it.
0:39:51 > 0:39:54This was years ago. Then I read an article in a paper which said that
0:39:54 > 0:39:58this has become so famous because there are no originals,
0:39:58 > 0:40:01all the originals have been thrown away,
0:40:01 > 0:40:06there's only one or two surviving and they're...terribly rare.
0:40:06 > 0:40:10And I thought, "Well, that's a bit odd, I've got one on my wall!"
0:40:10 > 0:40:14And, blow me, you've got one, two, three... How many have you got?
0:40:14 > 0:40:16There's five there - these are the five best ones -
0:40:16 > 0:40:21and approximately 15 in this pile, but I haven't counted them properly
0:40:21 > 0:40:25because I'm scared of damaging them even more than...
0:40:25 > 0:40:27I have to say, these are in very good condition.
0:40:27 > 0:40:30These ones, I can see they've had a harder life.
0:40:30 > 0:40:32So why did you come today?
0:40:32 > 0:40:37Some months ago, last year, I believe, I was watching The One Show
0:40:37 > 0:40:40when there was an article there about a bookshop
0:40:40 > 0:40:44somewhere in England, Barter's Books, who had found a poster in the loft.
0:40:44 > 0:40:47And, of course, after watching that, I thought,
0:40:47 > 0:40:48"Well, I've got about 20 of those.
0:40:48 > 0:40:53I have had another assessment done of the posters but I was told
0:40:53 > 0:40:55they're common as muck, they're worthless,
0:40:55 > 0:40:59and it made me almost think twice about coming today, but I thought,
0:40:59 > 0:41:02"No, I'll go for a second opinion from the respected..."
0:41:02 > 0:41:05OK, I'll give you a second opinion.
0:41:05 > 0:41:09Common as muck is, I have to say, completely untrue
0:41:09 > 0:41:12but I think I read an article in a national newspaper which said,
0:41:12 > 0:41:16"There is only one known survivor." That is also completely untrue.
0:41:16 > 0:41:20So somewhere between those two stories we have the truth.
0:41:20 > 0:41:23The point is, rarity is very important.
0:41:23 > 0:41:27Everyone has forgotten, from the reproductions,
0:41:27 > 0:41:28that there actually was an original.
0:41:28 > 0:41:33- Yes.- This is the original. This is as issued in 1940.
0:41:33 > 0:41:35Now, do you realise you're probably sitting on
0:41:35 > 0:41:40the world's stock of original "Keep Calm And Carry On" posters?
0:41:40 > 0:41:44I had never thought of it like that.
0:41:44 > 0:41:47I knew they were originals but I never,
0:41:47 > 0:41:50never thought of it in worldly terms.
0:41:50 > 0:41:53- You have the monopoly.- Wow. Oh, wow.
0:41:53 > 0:41:55Gosh.
0:41:55 > 0:42:03I think if one of these came up for sale, it would fetch £1,000.
0:42:03 > 0:42:07- For one?- For one. Because they're perceived to be so rare.
0:42:07 > 0:42:11How many have you got, 20 or so?
0:42:11 > 0:42:1320, not all in as good condition as this.
0:42:13 > 0:42:15No. There's an interesting debate here.
0:42:15 > 0:42:21If you've only got one and it's worth £1,000,
0:42:21 > 0:42:22it's worth £1,000.
0:42:22 > 0:42:24If you suddenly say, "Oh, but I've got 19 more,"
0:42:24 > 0:42:27is that another £19,000?
0:42:27 > 0:42:30- Or does the price suddenly collapse? - Yes, I had thought of that.
0:42:30 > 0:42:34- Because all the under-bidders in the world can now have one.- Yes.
0:42:34 > 0:42:38Well, the answer is, we don't really know until we try.
0:42:38 > 0:42:41I think you have got a very rare and unusual item.
0:42:41 > 0:42:44Potentially, I don't think you've got £20,000...
0:42:44 > 0:42:47- No.- ..because it doesn't work like that.- No.
0:42:47 > 0:42:51- But you've got several thousand pounds, possibly £10,000...- Gosh.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54..if there are enough in good condition.
0:42:54 > 0:42:56I've got another one at home. LAUGHTER
0:43:02 > 0:43:03Keep calm and carry on -
0:43:03 > 0:43:06that could be our motto at the Roadshow, because you never know
0:43:06 > 0:43:09what'll turn up, what the weather's going to throw at us.
0:43:09 > 0:43:12Oh, in case you're wondering about those programmes
0:43:12 > 0:43:15for the fashion show that Kate was at with her transparent dress,
0:43:15 > 0:43:19Paul Atterbury had a look at those and thought probably about £500.
0:43:19 > 0:43:22So not bad, given the lady who brought them had popped in
0:43:22 > 0:43:24for five minutes from the office.
0:43:24 > 0:43:26We've had a great day here at St Andrews.
0:43:26 > 0:43:29Until next time, from all the Roadshow team, bye-bye.