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0:00:02 > 0:00:06This week, the Roadshow comes from a town on the edge of Cardigan Bay.

0:00:06 > 0:00:10It was known in the 1920s as the "Biarritz of Wales".

0:00:10 > 0:00:13Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from Aberystwyth.

0:00:56 > 0:00:59Bringing the Antiques Roadshow team here to Aberystwyth has been

0:00:59 > 0:01:03a pretty long journey for all those involved and, in fact,

0:01:03 > 0:01:08Aberystwyth's remoteness was often a problem in the past, particularly

0:01:08 > 0:01:12for the Victorians who liked to come here and dip their toes in the sea.

0:01:12 > 0:01:16And, in fact, promenades like this were constructed so they could

0:01:16 > 0:01:18show off their fashionable clothes, and take the air.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23'But, if the town was to become a top holiday destination,

0:01:23 > 0:01:27'it needed one thing in particular - a good public transport system.'

0:01:31 > 0:01:33TRAIN WHISTLES

0:01:33 > 0:01:38In 1861, the Aberystwyth and Welsh Coast Railway Company was formed,

0:01:38 > 0:01:42and awarded the contract of forging a rail link to Aberystwyth.

0:01:51 > 0:01:54Well, it was quite an event,

0:01:54 > 0:01:58the day the town celebrated the official opening of its new railway line.

0:01:58 > 0:02:03On 22nd July 1864, there was a large procession through the town

0:02:03 > 0:02:07and then a train with 35 coaches, carrying nearly 2,000 passengers,

0:02:07 > 0:02:10pulled up to Aberystwyth station.

0:02:15 > 0:02:18Now, before I go, there's one thing I've got to do, which is...

0:02:18 > 0:02:20..kick the bar.

0:02:20 > 0:02:25Because I'm reliably informed that, for years, visitors have ended their walk along the promenade

0:02:25 > 0:02:27by coming here and kicking the bar.

0:02:27 > 0:02:30I don't know why. It seems a funny thing to do.

0:02:30 > 0:02:33But I've seen people do it and, apparently, it brings good luck.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36Let's hope that luck is with us today,

0:02:36 > 0:02:40as we join our experts at Aberystwyth Arts Centre at the university campus.

0:02:42 > 0:02:46When I was coming up on the train yesterday, with my colleague,

0:02:46 > 0:02:51I said to her, "The one thing I would really like to see tomorrow is a spoon rack."

0:02:51 > 0:02:59When you came into reception, she came running over and she said,

0:02:59 > 0:03:03- "I've got somebody you must meet." And here you are!- Yeah. Here I am.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06How far back can you remember them in your family?

0:03:06 > 0:03:12Well, I remember my father talking about his grandfather using them,

0:03:12 > 0:03:15so that would be my great-great-great grandfather.

0:03:15 > 0:03:19So that takes us almost back to the beginning of the 1800s.

0:03:19 > 0:03:24- Where was that?- That was in a little village called Llanfihangel ar Arth.

0:03:24 > 0:03:26I'm glad you said that and not me!

0:03:26 > 0:03:31In the north of Carmarthenshire, really, still in Carmarthenshire.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34- And were they in a farmhouse? - A smallholding.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36What they used to call a longhouse.

0:03:36 > 0:03:42One main room, one bedroom, with a bedroom door leading into the cowshed.

0:03:42 > 0:03:46- And these would have hung on the wall?- On the kitchen wall.

0:03:46 > 0:03:48And tell me how they were used?

0:03:48 > 0:03:53They were used for what, in the Welsh was called cawl, which is broth.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56Put a big pan on the fire, open fire.

0:03:56 > 0:04:03Potatoes, meat, onions, carrots, parsnips, swedes

0:04:03 > 0:04:07and last, before serving it, the leeks.

0:04:07 > 0:04:12I bet it was one of those dishes that, when you had it the second day, it tasted even better.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14Oh, much, much nicer, much nicer.

0:04:14 > 0:04:20But what I love about this is that it is a design, a shape, that has never changed.

0:04:20 > 0:04:23It could have been made in 1780,

0:04:23 > 0:04:26it would have been looking just the same in the 1880s.

0:04:26 > 0:04:30Very simply made from local wood,

0:04:30 > 0:04:34the actual rack is pine with a bit of staining, but it's got this

0:04:34 > 0:04:37sort of lovely blackness over it, which must have been from the smoke.

0:04:37 > 0:04:42- Smoke, most probably.- And all the spoons are, you know, wiggly waggly

0:04:42 > 0:04:45and they would have just been simply carved, wouldn't they?

0:04:45 > 0:04:48- Whittled away in the evening. - Front of the fire.

0:04:48 > 0:04:53Front of the fire. This piece speaks family - family life,

0:04:53 > 0:04:57children round a table, they just are a dream.

0:04:57 > 0:05:01- You can picture it, can't you? - So how long ago were they last used?

0:05:01 > 0:05:04I think they were last used in 1986.

0:05:04 > 0:05:09- I think Health and Safety might have something to say about it now.- Yes!

0:05:09 > 0:05:13I can't tell you how thrilled I am to see them, and so many spoons.

0:05:14 > 0:05:16So, now to value.

0:05:16 > 0:05:21I mean, to me, they are as rare as hen's teeth these days.

0:05:21 > 0:05:25- Families have kept them, they were passed down... - They will be passed down.

0:05:25 > 0:05:29..generation to generation. So how often do they come to market?

0:05:29 > 0:05:31Why would anybody want to sell them?

0:05:31 > 0:05:34But I have to put a price on because that's what we're about,

0:05:34 > 0:05:37and I would say somewhere in the region of

0:05:37 > 0:05:43- £400 or £500...- What!? - ..is a gentle price.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47Oh...

0:05:47 > 0:05:51Surprised, really surprised.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57- A group of tiny toys. - Very tiny.

0:05:57 > 0:05:59Now, whose are they?

0:05:59 > 0:06:01They belong to me now. They were my father's.

0:06:01 > 0:06:06He had them from a very early age.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09I presume they came from his father.

0:06:09 > 0:06:13I really don't know and they'd just been wrapped up in tissue paper

0:06:13 > 0:06:14in a little case for ages.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17Well, that's lovely that they're family things.

0:06:17 > 0:06:21I hope you can understand what I'm saying, I've got a terrible voice - I'm losing it.

0:06:21 > 0:06:25- Anyway, do you know what they're called?- Haven't got a clue.

0:06:25 > 0:06:28- They're called penny toys.- Right.

0:06:28 > 0:06:32They were called penny toys because they tended to be sold

0:06:32 > 0:06:38- by street vendors, with a tray out, for a penny a go.- Oh, right.

0:06:38 > 0:06:43And these street vendors were buying them for about eight shillings,

0:06:43 > 0:06:47that's 96 old pennies,

0:06:47 > 0:06:50for a gross, which is 144 items.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53- So, you know, it was a good little money earner.- Yes.

0:06:53 > 0:06:56And they had no overheads other than their tray.

0:06:56 > 0:07:00So penny toys are perhaps the toys that

0:07:00 > 0:07:03a lot of children would have seen

0:07:03 > 0:07:07as their first introduction to tin plate toys.

0:07:07 > 0:07:09They were made in Germany

0:07:09 > 0:07:13and there is nothing on these to indicate where they were made.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15No, you wouldn't know.

0:07:15 > 0:07:18A couple of them have got the clue, which is "Ges Gesch",

0:07:18 > 0:07:21which means that that particular design

0:07:21 > 0:07:24has been registered in Germany, so if you

0:07:24 > 0:07:28knew that, you'd be able to put two and two together and make it work.

0:07:28 > 0:07:31But the other thing is that they were very clever

0:07:31 > 0:07:36about making things for particular markets, and so the little bus

0:07:36 > 0:07:40here - for instance - is a London bus with London destinations on it.

0:07:40 > 0:07:43And the ambulance, similarly - you know -

0:07:43 > 0:07:47this is a London ambulance, and so the German manufacturing

0:07:47 > 0:07:52- companies were making things to appeal to particular markets.- Right.

0:07:52 > 0:07:54Well, there were three big makers.

0:07:54 > 0:07:56One was a company called Distler,

0:07:56 > 0:08:00one was a company called Fischer and the other one was Meier.

0:08:00 > 0:08:04All three companies are represented here, I'm sure.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06The absolute heyday for producing

0:08:06 > 0:08:12and selling these penny toys was between about 1895 and 1914,

0:08:12 > 0:08:18- so that fits in well with your father's father.- Yes.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21And I have to say, that even though they're tiny,

0:08:21 > 0:08:24an awful lot of work went into these.

0:08:24 > 0:08:27Some of them are clockwork - none of these are -

0:08:27 > 0:08:31- but they do have movement, don't they?- They do, yes, yes.

0:08:31 > 0:08:34This here, has got a little flywheel underneath it,

0:08:34 > 0:08:37there it is,

0:08:37 > 0:08:40and if you spin that axle,

0:08:40 > 0:08:45the wheels then rub against the turning axle and move it forward.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48I mean, it's so simple.

0:08:48 > 0:08:52I wonder if your father's father - your grandfather -

0:08:52 > 0:08:56- actually bought them from one of those street vendors for a penny a go.- Possible, very possible.

0:08:56 > 0:08:58When was he born?

0:08:58 > 0:09:01Oh, I really don't know. Late 1800s.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04- Well, then it could easily be, couldn't it?- Yes, yes, could be.

0:09:04 > 0:09:08What a great idea, that this has come straight from that street vendor.

0:09:08 > 0:09:12- Well, I have to say that these are sought after today.- Really?

0:09:12 > 0:09:15They jolly well are, and I think that what you've got here -

0:09:15 > 0:09:18I mean some are worth £100 or so...

0:09:18 > 0:09:22- No!- ..and some are worth considerably more.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25No! No, you're - no, really?

0:09:25 > 0:09:26No.

0:09:26 > 0:09:28No, see I knew you were telling me fibs!

0:09:28 > 0:09:32They're little things - they're not going to be worth much.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35- Oh, they're so fragile and... - And they're in rubbish condition.

0:09:35 > 0:09:39- Yes, they are!- I would say what you've got here is going to be worth

0:09:39 > 0:09:44- getting on for £2,000. - What! Oh, get me a seat.

0:09:44 > 0:09:46THEY LAUGH

0:09:46 > 0:09:49- No!- So do I say that they're "pennies from heaven"?

0:09:49 > 0:09:53They certainly are! I hope my dad's watching today.

0:09:57 > 0:10:00Do you know, when people bring these pictures into me,

0:10:00 > 0:10:02especially shipping portraits like this,

0:10:02 > 0:10:06I'm very tempted to ask you, "Is someone in your family

0:10:06 > 0:10:09"or has someone in your past, been captain of this boat?"

0:10:09 > 0:10:11Well, yes they have.

0:10:11 > 0:10:15My grandfather's brother was the captain of this ship.

0:10:15 > 0:10:18- And so was your grandfather's brother David Jones?- Yes, he was.

0:10:18 > 0:10:23Well, I think is a really interesting picture, and it's

0:10:23 > 0:10:26so nice to have the continuity that it was a relation of yours

0:10:26 > 0:10:29that was the captain of this boat, and it's still in the family.

0:10:29 > 0:10:31Now, when we look at this,

0:10:31 > 0:10:34we've got the name of the Brig - the Mary Ann Newett -

0:10:34 > 0:10:37and then David Jones, 1861, so that's when he was being captain.

0:10:37 > 0:10:42So you're captain of the boat and David Jones sails down

0:10:42 > 0:10:44to the Bay of Naples, and that's the ideal place

0:10:44 > 0:10:49to get your boat painted because there were a lot of artists there

0:10:49 > 0:10:52and we can see it's signed Raffaele Corsini who is a very well-known

0:10:52 > 0:10:56Italian painter of boats in the mid 19th century, doing it for captains.

0:10:56 > 0:10:58And he painted them in gouache,

0:10:58 > 0:11:01which is a form of watercolour, thick watercolour.

0:11:01 > 0:11:06And this picture is in quite good condition.

0:11:06 > 0:11:10Quite often I see these, they have brown marks down them, which I call

0:11:10 > 0:11:14water staining as captains had them in their cabins, and sometimes water's seeped in

0:11:14 > 0:11:16the back through the pine backing.

0:11:16 > 0:11:20But it's just fantastic because it's so original.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23I feel that, you know, the ship is so serene, and then you've got

0:11:23 > 0:11:28this angry sea under the ship. It's marvellous, actually.

0:11:28 > 0:11:31What is a picture like that worth with that provenance?

0:11:31 > 0:11:37Well, he is collected. And this - even in this condition -

0:11:37 > 0:11:41in a marine auction, it would make at least £2,000 to £3,000.

0:11:41 > 0:11:45Mmh, quite surprised. Very surprised, actually.

0:11:50 > 0:11:54This very elaborate carved wood cover with tiny, tiny lettering

0:11:54 > 0:11:58saying "my travels" must hide a photograph album, I'm guessing.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01Yes, it's the album of my great-grandfather,

0:12:01 > 0:12:05and when he retired from the Indian Army - he was a Major General in the Indian Army.

0:12:05 > 0:12:08When he retired, he went up into the hills with his big box camera

0:12:08 > 0:12:11and he went on a long, long trek up into the Himalayas

0:12:11 > 0:12:13and he never returned to Britain,

0:12:13 > 0:12:18- so he lived out there his whole life actually, and died out there. - Really? Let's have a look inside.

0:12:18 > 0:12:23Here we have an ownership inscription. "WE Marshall, Major General, September 1887".

0:12:23 > 0:12:26- Now we start with a route map.- Yes.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29So that explains all, and we've got some fillings in here,

0:12:29 > 0:12:31which I guess was done by your relative.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34Yes, he says he filled it in on the journey. I don't know quite how,

0:12:34 > 0:12:37but maybe he didn't know where he was going to go.

0:12:37 > 0:12:40He started off here and then to Simla - the hill station here,

0:12:40 > 0:12:44then he went all through Ledakh all the way up here to Lei which is just in Southern Tibet.

0:12:44 > 0:12:47This is him here, William Eliot Marshall

0:12:47 > 0:12:51and a photograph of him, taken by himself just after his return.

0:12:51 > 0:12:53Aged 48 years.

0:12:53 > 0:12:57Yeah, one year older than me, and he looks a lot worse!

0:12:57 > 0:12:59I think they must have been some travels.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02Well, that is a nice start. Let's have a little look further through.

0:13:02 > 0:13:06He's captioned all the photographs and most of them are by him.

0:13:06 > 0:13:09Isn't that a wonderful group shot?

0:13:09 > 0:13:12Very artistic in its composition, I do believe,

0:13:12 > 0:13:14but very historical as well.

0:13:14 > 0:13:15Now if we move on.

0:13:15 > 0:13:21In these days, photographs would have required a team to carry

0:13:21 > 0:13:25the equipment. I know that Vaughn and Sheppard developed their photographs

0:13:25 > 0:13:28on the spot, took photographs, developed on the spot and decided

0:13:28 > 0:13:32what they were going to do with them, so this is not just a one-man expedition.

0:13:32 > 0:13:35Did he publish at the end of all this?

0:13:35 > 0:13:38He did write a book later on about his life with a Southern Indian tribe.

0:13:38 > 0:13:43- Right, right, so this was sort of preliminary work. - Yes. What I like about this,

0:13:43 > 0:13:46and what I find interesting is, for somebody in the army,

0:13:46 > 0:13:49- he seemed to have a real respect for the local people.- I think that shows

0:13:49 > 0:13:53through the compositions. Lots of studies of local people

0:13:53 > 0:13:56and really nicely taken. Look at those children.

0:13:56 > 0:13:58The whole album is like this throughout,

0:13:58 > 0:14:00captioned from beginning to end,

0:14:00 > 0:14:02which is a really key factor in value.

0:14:02 > 0:14:06Without the captions, we wouldn't know half as much as we do know about it.

0:14:06 > 0:14:09So many albums like this have been split up and destroyed.

0:14:09 > 0:14:11The integrity of this album

0:14:11 > 0:14:15- I think stands for at least half of its value.- Oh right, right.

0:14:15 > 0:14:19So, what are you going to do with it? Will you keep it, sell it?

0:14:19 > 0:14:22I'm going to keep it - if you tell me it's worth a fortune, maybe not.

0:14:22 > 0:14:23But I'm hoping it isn't.

0:14:23 > 0:14:27Well, this is - this sort of thing is very desirable.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30It's in a fine binding, very intricate,

0:14:30 > 0:14:32and I just love the whole package.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35So I'm going to suggest an auction value of between £5,000 and £7,000.

0:14:35 > 0:14:39- Excellent, lovely. We'll still keep it!- Fair enough!

0:14:43 > 0:14:47If it wasn't for this, we'd probably all be speaking French now.

0:14:47 > 0:14:49This is the Brown Bess Musket,

0:14:49 > 0:14:52probably the most iconic weapon the British Army's ever had.

0:14:52 > 0:14:55Brown Bess - do you know why it's called the Brown Bess?

0:14:55 > 0:14:57I'm sorry, I don't.

0:14:57 > 0:15:01That's really disappointing because I was hoping you'd tell me,

0:15:01 > 0:15:03because nobody really knows.

0:15:03 > 0:15:10This one marked "Tower GR",

0:15:10 > 0:15:12which is the military stamp.

0:15:12 > 0:15:16We've got something interesting on the stock.

0:15:16 > 0:15:21Now, that's R Cracroft. Now, that's quite unusual

0:15:21 > 0:15:25on a military weapon, because if Private Cracroft

0:15:25 > 0:15:29had carved this into his stock,

0:15:29 > 0:15:34Private Cracroft would still be doing guard duty in 2011.

0:15:34 > 0:15:36So I think this is a militia one.

0:15:36 > 0:15:38Wow! That's amazing.

0:15:38 > 0:15:41Of course, the most iconic battle this was fought with was Waterloo.

0:15:41 > 0:15:45- Do you think it would be in Waterloo? - This one unfortunately wouldn't have been.

0:15:45 > 0:15:49This is a militia one, but exact similar weapons,

0:15:49 > 0:15:52that's what the army were issued with, and that was Waterloo.

0:15:52 > 0:15:56It throws about a three-quarter-inch lead ball,

0:15:56 > 0:16:00which you really don't want to collect on the other end of it.

0:16:00 > 0:16:04Flintlock, as we can see here, operates like that.

0:16:05 > 0:16:09Full cock - we don't fire it because we tend to break the cock -

0:16:09 > 0:16:13if we did, this comes forward, strikes a spark,

0:16:13 > 0:16:18ignites the powder in the pan, burns through into the touch hole.

0:16:18 > 0:16:21Everything loads from the muzzle end.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24A good man can get three shots off in a minute with one of these.

0:16:24 > 0:16:27The Brown Bess served for a long time,

0:16:27 > 0:16:29but this one is probably about 1800.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32Where did you obtain it from?

0:16:32 > 0:16:36It's always been on the mantel in my house - my mum's house.

0:16:36 > 0:16:40My mum thinks that she - her father got it in a flea market

0:16:40 > 0:16:43in Nottinghamshire in the 1950s somewhere.

0:16:43 > 0:16:47Excellent buy. I'm glad it's on display - they should be.

0:16:47 > 0:16:49Markings are all crisp.

0:16:49 > 0:16:53I would think if you had to go and buy it now,

0:16:53 > 0:16:55you wouldn't get it at your flea market.

0:16:55 > 0:16:58You'd have to get it at a reasonably good dealer

0:16:58 > 0:17:01- and that's going to cost you £1,000.- Gosh!

0:17:01 > 0:17:04It's very nice and I hope it goes back on the mantelpiece.

0:17:04 > 0:17:08It belongs to my one-year-old son, so it's his heirloom.

0:17:08 > 0:17:09What a very lucky little lad.

0:17:09 > 0:17:13I wish somebody had given me a Brown Bess when I was one.

0:17:13 > 0:17:16- Thanks for bringing it in, it's great.- Thank you very much.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23It doesn't look like your most prized possession.

0:17:23 > 0:17:27- Unfortunately not.- It hasn't had a lot of care and attention.

0:17:27 > 0:17:29No, it's been in the garage for the past 20 years.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32Do you know where it comes from? Any ideas at all?

0:17:32 > 0:17:35Not really. I knew it used to belong to my grandparents

0:17:35 > 0:17:38and that's all the history I know actually.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40Well, I'm pleased to tell you

0:17:40 > 0:17:43- that it's a Welsh chair.- Oh right. - No, I correct myself.

0:17:43 > 0:17:45- It's half a Welsh chair. - Half a Welsh chair?

0:17:45 > 0:17:49Because somebody - your grandfather, your great grandfather,

0:17:49 > 0:17:52yourself as a child - has cut one, two, three, four, five,

0:17:52 > 0:17:54six of the six splats off.

0:17:54 > 0:17:58It would have stood up like that with a nice combed back on the top.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01- Oh right.- So you could lean back and relax.- Oh.

0:18:01 > 0:18:05That's gone. So you might have devalued it a bit, I think.

0:18:05 > 0:18:09- It wasn't you?- Not me, no.- Promise? - Promise.- OK, right.

0:18:09 > 0:18:12I just want to point out one thing, You can see the way this is made,

0:18:12 > 0:18:14this wonderful "C" shape,

0:18:14 > 0:18:17- it is actually in three pieces, that's typical of Wales.- Oh right.

0:18:17 > 0:18:21There's something fascinating, and I have to get this over,

0:18:21 > 0:18:24- because it is only half a chair and it's filthy dirty.- Yes.

0:18:24 > 0:18:27You see how high the arms are? Yes.

0:18:27 > 0:18:29That is typical of the Celtic tradition.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33- Oh, right.- Scotland, Wales and even the West Country, Cornwall.

0:18:33 > 0:18:35- All the Celtic-speaking areas. - Right.

0:18:35 > 0:18:39Had these... Seemed to have these high arm chairs.

0:18:39 > 0:18:41Now, if you imagine you're sitting

0:18:41 > 0:18:44in an old, dusty little cottage by the fire,

0:18:44 > 0:18:47why do you need the arms high?

0:18:47 > 0:18:49Probably to keep them out of the soot.

0:18:49 > 0:18:54Well you're reading your Bible, or your book, or you're eating

0:18:54 > 0:18:56and you've got very little light at night,

0:18:56 > 0:18:59and that helps you see what you're doing or reading.

0:18:59 > 0:19:02- Oh, right, oh. - So I'm sure that's why.

0:19:02 > 0:19:05I could actually talk for a long time about this,

0:19:05 > 0:19:08but I won't because I think it's fascinating.

0:19:08 > 0:19:11- But what I'd like to do is have your permission to do something. - Go on.

0:19:11 > 0:19:14- It's not worth a lot like this, but can I polish? - Yes, yes, please do.

0:19:14 > 0:19:18- Because I just happen to have some with me.- Oh.

0:19:19 > 0:19:22Whoops. So here we go.

0:19:26 > 0:19:29You realise you're going to have to finish this now?

0:19:32 > 0:19:35In July 1981, like millions of others, I was watching

0:19:35 > 0:19:40the Royal Wedding of Charles and Diana on television.

0:19:40 > 0:19:42But you have a very different experience.

0:19:42 > 0:19:44Clearly you were part of it.

0:19:44 > 0:19:47I missed the wedding because we were in Gibraltar

0:19:47 > 0:19:50waiting for them to arrive on board the Royal Yacht

0:19:50 > 0:19:53and take them on their honeymoon. When they arrived on board,

0:19:53 > 0:19:56we didn't know where we were going to go on honeymoon.

0:19:56 > 0:19:59As soon as Prince Charles said left or right

0:19:59 > 0:20:02coming out of Gibraltar, that's when we knew where we were going.

0:20:02 > 0:20:05So you were serving on board the Royal Yacht Britannia?

0:20:05 > 0:20:06I was.

0:20:06 > 0:20:10And here you are with Charles and Diana,

0:20:10 > 0:20:12their honeymoon. It was actually

0:20:12 > 0:20:16a very private affair in many ways, where they could escape almost.

0:20:16 > 0:20:19Well, that's what the yacht was about.

0:20:19 > 0:20:21It gave the Royal Family some privacy.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24They could get away

0:20:24 > 0:20:27from the media and paparazzi

0:20:27 > 0:20:30and they could relax. It was nice to see them

0:20:30 > 0:20:33on board in normal clothing like ourselves, you know.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36Just a sloppy jumper and a pair of jeans.

0:20:36 > 0:20:39I mean, relaxed is clearly what comes across

0:20:39 > 0:20:42in this incredible collection of photographs.

0:20:42 > 0:20:44You were responsible for what on board?

0:20:44 > 0:20:48I was, as they used to call in the navy, the club swinger,

0:20:48 > 0:20:52I was a PTI, the physical training instructor.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55So I was basically keeping everybody fit.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58I arranged all the sports and activities,

0:20:58 > 0:21:01some of the entertainment and a little bit of security.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03I can see a head of Diana

0:21:03 > 0:21:07and a head of Charles watching a show over here.

0:21:07 > 0:21:11- Are you in that?- Yeah, I'm the Scotsman with the braces on

0:21:11 > 0:21:14It was a tug of war scene.

0:21:14 > 0:21:18There's a wonderful photograph here. I think you're serving drinks.

0:21:18 > 0:21:20Yes, I had the honour, yes.

0:21:20 > 0:21:22And Diana's clearly sort of...

0:21:22 > 0:21:26You're asking her what she wants to drink. What did she drink?

0:21:26 > 0:21:28Well, actually she had a shandy.

0:21:28 > 0:21:30A great '80s girl!

0:21:30 > 0:21:33Yes, she was, and Charles had his boring orange.

0:21:36 > 0:21:39- But he wasn't boring on board? - No, no. Far from it,

0:21:39 > 0:21:43He was always involved in activities. He was a bit of a sportsman.

0:21:43 > 0:21:45We used to call him "Crazy Horse"

0:21:45 > 0:21:48because he was like a bull in a china shop.

0:21:48 > 0:21:51If he was playing hockey, you got out the way.

0:21:51 > 0:21:53Oh. And they went swimming?

0:21:53 > 0:21:55Yes. We stopped in the Med.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58Ourselves and the Royal party all plunged in,

0:21:58 > 0:22:01enjoyed ourselves in the Mediterranean,

0:22:01 > 0:22:04and she was also one of those in the water.

0:22:04 > 0:22:06You didn't take these photographs,

0:22:06 > 0:22:09but they're obviously very personal, intimate photographs.

0:22:09 > 0:22:12How did you get them?

0:22:12 > 0:22:14The Royal Yacht has its own photographer

0:22:14 > 0:22:17and he takes all photographs

0:22:17 > 0:22:20of any events, you know, on board

0:22:20 > 0:22:24- and then you're allowed to purchase some of them. - Right.

0:22:24 > 0:22:27I think it's a very personal touching series of images

0:22:27 > 0:22:30which comes across here and the idea of seeing them

0:22:30 > 0:22:34in a very natural way, puts a different perspective

0:22:34 > 0:22:37on the way we look back at that marriage now.

0:22:37 > 0:22:39- Sure, yeah. - In terms of value,

0:22:39 > 0:22:42perhaps as a collection they would be worth

0:22:42 > 0:22:44£700 or £800 as an album.

0:22:44 > 0:22:48But I didn't get them to sell them anyway,

0:22:48 > 0:22:50so we'll be keeping them.

0:22:50 > 0:22:53You got them to have the best honeymoon ever.

0:22:53 > 0:22:54Well, we did indeed.

0:22:58 > 0:23:02See how well this is coming up. This lovely red paint underneath.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04I can't resist having a go at these little rings,

0:23:04 > 0:23:07which are simulated to bamboo. This helps me date it,

0:23:07 > 0:23:10but it's not bamboo. It's difficult to tell,

0:23:10 > 0:23:12- but almost certainly the seat will be elm.- Right.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15And underneath the arms I suspect it's oak,

0:23:15 > 0:23:17which would be more typical of a Welsh chair.

0:23:17 > 0:23:21But it's been made by quite a sophisticated person. He's a man who's access to a lathe

0:23:21 > 0:23:24to turn these spindles

0:23:24 > 0:23:26and these front ones with the bamboo and legs.

0:23:26 > 0:23:28He's a farmer, a cabinet maker,

0:23:28 > 0:23:31he might have been the local coffin maker,

0:23:31 > 0:23:34making for somebody within probably very near to Aberystwyth.

0:23:34 > 0:23:36We just don't know, we don't know who it was.

0:23:36 > 0:23:38When was he making this?

0:23:38 > 0:23:42- I would have thought the end of the 18th century?- Really? Wow!

0:23:42 > 0:23:46Slightly older than I thought.

0:23:46 > 0:23:50So your chair, your half chair from Aberystwyth, is 1780,

0:23:50 > 0:23:54something like that. 230 0r 240 years old.

0:23:54 > 0:23:56What's it worth?

0:23:56 > 0:23:59That is the question.

0:23:59 > 0:24:04Very little, I'm afraid. I'd probably pay you £200 for it anyway.

0:24:04 > 0:24:09Oh right, it's interesting knowing the age and the value.

0:24:09 > 0:24:11If you'd clean it up. Finish the job.

0:24:22 > 0:24:26One of the exciting things about a Roadshow is when an object is brought along

0:24:26 > 0:24:30and it looks pretty ordinary, similar to countless others we see every week,

0:24:30 > 0:24:34but there's something special about it that sets it apart

0:24:34 > 0:24:36and makes it significant and valuable.

0:24:36 > 0:24:38The thing is, how do you tell?

0:24:38 > 0:24:41As you know, in this series our experts are setting us

0:24:41 > 0:24:44a bit of a challenge - basic, better, best.

0:24:44 > 0:24:48This week is the turn of our arms and militaria expert, Graham Lay.

0:24:48 > 0:24:53So we have here a set of medals. One is a basic set worth about £80,

0:24:53 > 0:24:56the other is a rather better set worth £500 to £600

0:24:56 > 0:25:01and then there's the best, worth £4,000 to £5,000.

0:25:01 > 0:25:03I have to say, medals are not my speciality

0:25:03 > 0:25:06but Graham is going to reveal all later on.

0:25:06 > 0:25:10First it's time for our visitors and you to see if you can work out which is which.

0:25:12 > 0:25:15- Have you any idea what you're looking for?- No.

0:25:15 > 0:25:19This is a trick question. The smallest one will be most valuable.

0:25:19 > 0:25:22- Mm...- What about the age?

0:25:22 > 0:25:25What do you think? Basic, better, best.

0:25:25 > 0:25:29Here would be basic that one would be better, that would be the best.

0:25:29 > 0:25:34- Maybe, mm...- That one and that one look very similar, don't they?

0:25:34 > 0:25:36OK, I'm going say better and best.

0:25:36 > 0:25:40Crosses there, and crosses generally say more important.

0:25:40 > 0:25:42- Um...- Tricky.

0:25:42 > 0:25:45- That could be the best.- Why do you think that?- There's two crosses.

0:25:45 > 0:25:47Er...

0:25:47 > 0:25:49These ones are the most important ones.

0:25:49 > 0:25:51Basic, better, best.

0:25:51 > 0:25:53Hold on, switch those around.

0:25:53 > 0:25:55Basic, better, best.

0:25:55 > 0:25:58- Sure?- Sure as I can be.

0:26:06 > 0:26:09Now this is a striking bit of human anatomy.

0:26:09 > 0:26:11How did it come into your life?

0:26:11 > 0:26:14Well, it's quite a story.

0:26:14 > 0:26:16I visited an old friend of mine

0:26:16 > 0:26:19that does house clearances

0:26:19 > 0:26:22and from time to time he gets a painting,

0:26:22 > 0:26:26he gets in touch with me and he says, "Are you interested in buying?"

0:26:26 > 0:26:29And this is my hobby, so he brings it down to me

0:26:29 > 0:26:33and it was in a terrible state. I saw the ticket on the back,

0:26:33 > 0:26:37Francis Bacon and recognised the signature and we did a deal.

0:26:37 > 0:26:40I gave him a few hundred pounds

0:26:40 > 0:26:45and when I had a look at it, I thought, well you know, this isn't for me really,

0:26:45 > 0:26:46but the name is.

0:26:46 > 0:26:50Of course the central question is "Is this by Francis Bacon?"

0:26:50 > 0:26:53Francis Bacon, the major towering figure in British art

0:26:53 > 0:26:56in the last 20-30 years, died fairly recently.

0:26:56 > 0:27:00If it's by him, of course, it's a picture of extreme value,

0:27:00 > 0:27:03art historical importance, worth many millions of pounds,

0:27:03 > 0:27:06so it's really worth getting this one right.

0:27:06 > 0:27:08From the front,

0:27:08 > 0:27:11well it's the sort of composition we normally associate

0:27:11 > 0:27:16with Francis Bacon, in as much that you've got that rather sort of bruised and angry flesh,

0:27:16 > 0:27:20almost like a corpse, and you've got that bleary out-of-focus face,

0:27:20 > 0:27:23all the sort of stuff that you associate with Francis Bacon.

0:27:23 > 0:27:27But I think before we go any further on the front,

0:27:27 > 0:27:30as we're trying to establish if this is the real thing or not,

0:27:30 > 0:27:33- Let's have a look at the back, shall we?- Yes.

0:27:47 > 0:27:50OK, now it's always been my view,

0:27:50 > 0:27:53that whenever you're looking at a picture that could potentially

0:27:53 > 0:27:58be a great treasure or, indeed, a fake, that the back of it

0:27:58 > 0:28:00will tell you more than the front.

0:28:00 > 0:28:05The title of the picture it seems, Ophelia, with a sort of inscription

0:28:05 > 0:28:08we find from time to time on 20th century pictures and earlier,

0:28:08 > 0:28:10"A gift to my sister."

0:28:10 > 0:28:13Now this gets more interesting, we have a label

0:28:13 > 0:28:16at the top here that says "Francis Bacon B29".

0:28:16 > 0:28:19Now I have to say the writing looks quite modern,

0:28:19 > 0:28:22but what do you think the B29 refers to?

0:28:22 > 0:28:24Well, I was thinking

0:28:24 > 0:28:28perhaps it's the Hanover Gallery Exhibition number of 1952.

0:28:28 > 0:28:32Well, you've really done your homework,

0:28:32 > 0:28:34because the Hanover Gallery was the first gallery

0:28:34 > 0:28:36to discover Francis Bacon,

0:28:36 > 0:28:39and if it a label from that exhibition,

0:28:39 > 0:28:41that is immediately exciting.

0:28:41 > 0:28:43It proves that it was at a place

0:28:43 > 0:28:47and at a time which is extremely significant

0:28:47 > 0:28:50in the life of Francis Bacon. You could say we're warming up.

0:28:50 > 0:28:53But then, does that look really old?

0:28:53 > 0:28:57Or does it look like a photocopy of a label?

0:28:57 > 0:29:01And is this B29? Is the paper just a little bit fresh?

0:29:01 > 0:29:04I'm not sure. But let's just ask those questions.

0:29:04 > 0:29:06What do you feel?

0:29:06 > 0:29:10I think it's an old label and the reason I think that is because

0:29:10 > 0:29:14it's bowed slightly with the damp,

0:29:14 > 0:29:17within an attic for years and years

0:29:17 > 0:29:21and the ink is coming off in places

0:29:21 > 0:29:23where it would do, with damp.

0:29:23 > 0:29:29But the signature looks to me to be genuine because it's spontaneous.

0:29:29 > 0:29:31Well, someone...

0:29:31 > 0:29:33And I'm going to just go back to the front.

0:29:33 > 0:29:37Someone has gone to inordinate trouble to get it right.

0:29:37 > 0:29:42And they haven't just tried to paint a picture

0:29:42 > 0:29:45that Francis Bacon might have done.

0:29:45 > 0:29:49And it looks fairly plausible. I have to say

0:29:49 > 0:29:51I don't think I'd be taken in

0:29:51 > 0:29:54and I don't think a lot of 20th century scholars, or dealers,

0:29:54 > 0:29:57or auctioneers would be taken in.

0:29:57 > 0:30:00But the combination of that and the back

0:30:00 > 0:30:03has meant that someone out there...

0:30:03 > 0:30:05Someone around us, who knows?

0:30:05 > 0:30:09- Yes.- Has actually decided to create not just a fake,

0:30:09 > 0:30:10but a fake history,

0:30:10 > 0:30:14a fake exhibition history, a fake owner probably,

0:30:14 > 0:30:17- and has done it quite well. - Yes.

0:30:17 > 0:30:20And don't worry, you are not alone.

0:30:20 > 0:30:22I have to say,

0:30:22 > 0:30:25I've even been taken in myself.

0:30:25 > 0:30:29- Yes. - So join the crowd.

0:30:29 > 0:30:32Yes. It's all part of learning, isn't it?

0:30:35 > 0:30:39Forgive me for saying, but that's an extremely striking design, it really is.

0:30:39 > 0:30:43Beautiful, isn't it? I have a brooch in here for you to have a look at.

0:30:43 > 0:30:47- Let's have a look.- Wondering if you could tell me anything about it. - Oh, yes.

0:30:47 > 0:30:51I like the contrast between the studded skull

0:30:51 > 0:30:54and the rather sweet demure little chick here. Would you not agree?

0:30:54 > 0:30:55I would, yes.

0:30:55 > 0:30:59- A good contrast.- I thought they'd go well together.- They're seamless.

0:30:59 > 0:31:02- What's the story behind it? - Well, it was my great aunt's

0:31:02 > 0:31:05and she gave it to my mother

0:31:05 > 0:31:07and she said it was chipped diamond,

0:31:07 > 0:31:11- and that's about all we know about it.- Well, they are chipped diamonds.

0:31:11 > 0:31:14In fact, it's what we call rose diamonds.

0:31:14 > 0:31:17So rose-cut diamonds were typically used

0:31:17 > 0:31:19in little novelty brooches like this.

0:31:19 > 0:31:22Would you not agree it is novelty through and through?

0:31:22 > 0:31:23Definitely, yes.

0:31:23 > 0:31:26These were popular in around about 1900

0:31:26 > 0:31:28and you'd have little farmyard chicks

0:31:28 > 0:31:31and little cats and dogs and whatever it may be.

0:31:31 > 0:31:34But what makes this rather sweet is that the chick

0:31:34 > 0:31:38is very nicely modelled and there's the egg and the shell.

0:31:38 > 0:31:42It's broken, the top of it's off and there's the chick. Isn't it sweet?

0:31:42 > 0:31:45- I've always loved it.- Very sweet. - Very different.

0:31:45 > 0:31:49High carat gold, diamonds. Now the only thing,

0:31:49 > 0:31:52looking through my lens, that I suppose I ought to point out

0:31:52 > 0:31:55is that originally I think there might have been a little ruby

0:31:55 > 0:31:57- or a sapphire in the eye. - Right.

0:31:57 > 0:31:59- And that's dropped out. - Yes.

0:31:59 > 0:32:03But it wouldn't cost a fortune, in my opinion to get it replaced,

0:32:03 > 0:32:06so my advice would be to go to a competent jeweller,

0:32:06 > 0:32:09- put a little stone in, just give it that bit of colour contrast.- Yes.

0:32:09 > 0:32:11- Worth doing, it really is. - Definitely.

0:32:11 > 0:32:13Wear it?

0:32:13 > 0:32:17I don't. My mother used to and it will be handed down to me and then I will wear it.

0:32:17 > 0:32:21OK, OK. Value. Well, substantial?

0:32:21 > 0:32:22What do you think?

0:32:22 > 0:32:24About £100, I thought?

0:32:24 > 0:32:28No, don't think so. Very popular,

0:32:28 > 0:32:30Wearable novelty.

0:32:30 > 0:32:33- £750.- Oh, wow! - Yeah, I think so.

0:32:33 > 0:32:36Mum will be thrilled.

0:32:39 > 0:32:41The joy of working on the Roadshow is when someone

0:32:41 > 0:32:44brings an object that you've never seen before.

0:32:44 > 0:32:46This is one of those objects. When I looked at it,

0:32:46 > 0:32:49I thought, "What is it?" It soon becomes apparent.

0:32:49 > 0:32:52It's a coin sorting device. A sovereign weighing machine.

0:32:52 > 0:32:55We'll go into the intricacies of it in a just a moment,

0:32:55 > 0:32:59but I want you to tell me how you come to have such a unique-looking object.

0:32:59 > 0:33:03Well, my father used to work in the Bank of England in London

0:33:03 > 0:33:06and every now and again, he seemed to bring home things

0:33:06 > 0:33:10that they were presumably getting rid of and this was one of the things.

0:33:10 > 0:33:16And my brother and sisters had sort of nice copper brass scales, you know, and I got this.

0:33:16 > 0:33:19That's interesting in itself, because what you've told me

0:33:19 > 0:33:21is that this was an obsolete item.

0:33:21 > 0:33:25And when did it become obsolete, when did he bring it home?

0:33:25 > 0:33:28Late '60s, '70s sometime. Can't remember exactly.

0:33:28 > 0:33:30That kind of makes sense.

0:33:30 > 0:33:33Certainly what is very obvious about it is the maker's plaque

0:33:33 > 0:33:36on the front here. We can see it says, "D. Napier & Sons,

0:33:36 > 0:33:39"Engineers, Lambeth, London" and it was started,

0:33:39 > 0:33:43I think around about 1820, the company,

0:33:43 > 0:33:45and they specialised in making machines

0:33:45 > 0:33:49for manufacturing armaments, things like the Woolwich Arsenal.

0:33:49 > 0:33:53Very precision coin sorting,

0:33:53 > 0:33:56stamp minting

0:33:56 > 0:33:58and banknote production machines.

0:33:58 > 0:34:03This is the category that this falls into.

0:34:03 > 0:34:07Now, this has got an electro-magnet in it, which I think puts it

0:34:07 > 0:34:12into the mid-1870s. What it does is it allows you to weigh sovereigns

0:34:12 > 0:34:14and half sovereigns, and the reason for that

0:34:14 > 0:34:18is that some of them didn't quite come up to the right weight,

0:34:18 > 0:34:22because they may have been clipped perhaps, or shaved.

0:34:22 > 0:34:26This machine determines whether they weigh the right amount,

0:34:26 > 0:34:29and that electro-magnet, if they don't weight the right amount,

0:34:29 > 0:34:31then shoots them off into the reject tray.

0:34:31 > 0:34:34- Right. - So we've put 1ps in it

0:34:34 > 0:34:37because they're very close to the half sovereign size.

0:34:37 > 0:34:42So if we send it this way, it's going to pick up

0:34:42 > 0:34:45all of the one pences. Here it comes,

0:34:45 > 0:34:47it's being automatically weighed.

0:34:47 > 0:34:50At this point, it's being weighed,

0:34:50 > 0:34:55There it goes. It's picked up again, off the scale, at which point

0:34:55 > 0:34:59the scale and the electro-magnet determine if it's the right weight

0:34:59 > 0:35:01and it's going to go one way or the other.

0:35:01 > 0:35:02As it's a one pence,

0:35:02 > 0:35:06- let's say that it didn't weigh the right amount.- No.

0:35:06 > 0:35:08- It's come out of the reject. - Yes.

0:35:08 > 0:35:12It does a very simple job. But look at it,

0:35:12 > 0:35:14- it's a masterpiece, isn't it? - Yes.

0:35:14 > 0:35:17- I think this was made for the Royal Mint.- Well, that's possible.

0:35:17 > 0:35:20My father did do some work for the Royal Mint.

0:35:20 > 0:35:24He sort of got seconded to the Royal Mint or something.

0:35:24 > 0:35:27Let's think about trying to put a price on this. It's a difficult one.

0:35:27 > 0:35:31You brought in at the same time what I call a standard sovereign balance.

0:35:31 > 0:35:33This is the kind of thing that anyone

0:35:33 > 0:35:37would have taken around in their pocket to weigh sovereigns

0:35:37 > 0:35:41and half sovereigns, to see again whether they were clipped or not.

0:35:41 > 0:35:44- Here's the Rolls Royce of sovereign balances.- Yes.

0:35:44 > 0:35:47What have we got here? £29 or £30 worth.

0:35:47 > 0:35:51What have we got here? I think £700 to £1,000 worth.

0:35:51 > 0:35:54Mm, gosh!

0:35:54 > 0:35:57Didn't realise that at all. I just brought it along.

0:35:57 > 0:35:59I just find it interesting, you know.

0:35:59 > 0:36:03That's what it is. It's a fabulous and interesting piece of machinery

0:36:03 > 0:36:06and a scarce piece of machinery.

0:36:09 > 0:36:12- I saw your lions this morning. - Yes.

0:36:12 > 0:36:15Then I went for my lunch, and half way through my lunch I was interrupted

0:36:15 > 0:36:17because your lions arrived.

0:36:17 > 0:36:19Did they breed lions in Wales?

0:36:19 > 0:36:21Well, mine decided to go walkies today

0:36:21 > 0:36:25so they walked 15 miles down here and I don't think

0:36:25 > 0:36:29- they've been away from home for the last hundred years. - This is their first time out?

0:36:29 > 0:36:32- That's correct. - And what about your lions? - Oh about the same, yes.

0:36:32 > 0:36:36So bred in Wales, but were they born in Wales? That's the question.

0:36:36 > 0:36:38- I think mine are English. - What about yours?

0:36:38 > 0:36:43Well, I'd like to think they're Celtic lions.

0:36:43 > 0:36:46Well... Mm... well I think you are absolutely right about yours.

0:36:46 > 0:36:49They are English lions.

0:36:49 > 0:36:52Difficult to say where they were made. Could have been any

0:36:52 > 0:36:55of the country potteries, probably in Staffordshire.

0:36:55 > 0:36:57They'd have lovely, curly tails

0:36:57 > 0:36:59which have gone missing. Someone's tried to pull them

0:36:59 > 0:37:03or grab them by the tail. Dangerous thing to do with a lion!

0:37:03 > 0:37:06They've broken off, but they're still rather magnificent.

0:37:06 > 0:37:11Yours are interesting and magnificent in a different way,

0:37:11 > 0:37:14- and they are Welsh.- Good God.

0:37:14 > 0:37:17- But that's only happened very recently.- Yes?

0:37:17 > 0:37:21Had you asked me a year ago, I would have told you these were made

0:37:21 > 0:37:25by the Pill Pottery on the River Avon near Bristol,

0:37:25 > 0:37:30but somebody's researched them and it's not Pill on the Avon,

0:37:30 > 0:37:33- it's actually Pill, which is a suburb of Newport.- Yes.

0:37:33 > 0:37:37Now I've been trying to study the name of it,

0:37:37 > 0:37:39but I'm going to ask you to read it,

0:37:39 > 0:37:41because I can't pronounce Welsh at all.

0:37:41 > 0:37:44In English it would be Pillgwenelly,

0:37:44 > 0:37:46but how would you pronounce that in Welsh?

0:37:46 > 0:37:50- Well, Pillgwenlly.- Yeah. Pillgwenlly.

0:37:50 > 0:37:51THEY SPEAK WELSH

0:37:51 > 0:37:53So that's where the Pill comes from,

0:37:53 > 0:37:56so these are the Pill Pottery from Newport in Wales.

0:37:56 > 0:37:58So yours are Welsh, yours are English.

0:37:58 > 0:38:01They're both mid-19th century.

0:38:01 > 0:38:04These are probably 1830-1840.

0:38:04 > 0:38:06These perhaps slightly later.

0:38:06 > 0:38:09And they're both worth a similar amount of money

0:38:09 > 0:38:10for different reasons.

0:38:10 > 0:38:13Our more elegant English lions, they're decorative,

0:38:13 > 0:38:16somebody who collected oak or country furniture

0:38:16 > 0:38:18would have them prized on a table.

0:38:18 > 0:38:20- And these, really...- More peasant?

0:38:20 > 0:38:22Cottage, cottage lions shall we say?

0:38:22 > 0:38:24But you know, just as interesting.

0:38:24 > 0:38:26The value is because they're Welsh.

0:38:26 > 0:38:31Welsh people are very proud people, they want to collect Welsh things.

0:38:31 > 0:38:34They're both worth £1,200.

0:38:34 > 0:38:36Heavens! You serious?

0:38:36 > 0:38:40Absolutely serious. I bet you're glad you let them out today.

0:38:40 > 0:38:43So it's the Welshness that counts?

0:38:43 > 0:38:45It's the Welshness that counts.

0:38:51 > 0:38:54Graham, it was interesting talking about these -

0:38:54 > 0:38:55they excite a lot of interest

0:38:55 > 0:38:58and it seems invidious to talk about a value for these things,

0:38:58 > 0:39:00when just the fact that you've fought in a war

0:39:00 > 0:39:03and gained a medal should be enough.

0:39:03 > 0:39:06None of us really were quite sure what we were looking for.

0:39:06 > 0:39:10Well, you know, medals are a testament

0:39:10 > 0:39:12to the heroism of the recipients

0:39:12 > 0:39:14and I always feel uncomfortable

0:39:14 > 0:39:16about talking about values of medals,

0:39:16 > 0:39:18but people are interested in them.

0:39:18 > 0:39:20During the First and Second World Wars,

0:39:20 > 0:39:23millions and millions of people served their country

0:39:23 > 0:39:27and almost everybody was entitled to a medal.

0:39:27 > 0:39:31During the First World War, for example, the British War Medal,

0:39:31 > 0:39:32this silver medal -

0:39:32 > 0:39:356.5 million of these issued during the First World War,

0:39:35 > 0:39:37so they were issued in huge numbers.

0:39:37 > 0:39:40And the great thing about First World War medals

0:39:40 > 0:39:42is that they were always named.

0:39:42 > 0:39:46Gosh, so every single one of those millions were individually...?

0:39:46 > 0:39:49Yes. There are lots of websites out there

0:39:49 > 0:39:53that can point you in the right direction for doing the research.

0:39:53 > 0:39:57So campaign medals, therefore, I assume are not that valuable.

0:39:57 > 0:39:59Well, they are.

0:39:59 > 0:40:02They can be, depending on what the campaigns were

0:40:02 > 0:40:05and depending on what the recipient did.

0:40:05 > 0:40:09And that's when we come to the Basic, Better, Best point of view.

0:40:09 > 0:40:12Right. Well, I'll tell you what I suggested.

0:40:12 > 0:40:14I was thinking, "Campaign medals,

0:40:14 > 0:40:18"everyone will have got one, so presumably not that valuable,"

0:40:18 > 0:40:19so I put Basic here.

0:40:19 > 0:40:22I didn't know what to make of these.

0:40:22 > 0:40:26I looked at these and interestingly, cos I read out on the news,

0:40:26 > 0:40:29- time and again, about in Afghanistan or Iraq.- Yes.

0:40:29 > 0:40:32And maybe about someone who's winning a Victoria Cross

0:40:32 > 0:40:35or a medal for bravery, and so I looked at these and thought...

0:40:35 > 0:40:37I realised I'd never seen one,

0:40:37 > 0:40:41but I'm assuming one of these must be a cross for valour, for bravery,

0:40:41 > 0:40:43and therefore I've put these in the Best category.

0:40:43 > 0:40:46Well, you're absolutely right.

0:40:46 > 0:40:49Well, good, cos it doesn't happen very often!

0:40:49 > 0:40:52But looking at these - let's look at them first.

0:40:52 > 0:40:56This is the Basic group of three First World War medals.

0:40:56 > 0:40:59These are worth somewhere in the region of £60 to £80.

0:41:01 > 0:41:03Better is this group.

0:41:03 > 0:41:08Now, this is also a group that shows heroism of some sort

0:41:08 > 0:41:10because he's got the Military Medal

0:41:10 > 0:41:13and also this means "mentioned in dispatches".

0:41:13 > 0:41:15- This...?- This oak leaf,

0:41:15 > 0:41:17so he must have performed many acts of bravery.

0:41:17 > 0:41:20But also he served in the Second World War,

0:41:20 > 0:41:22because this is the Defence Medal,

0:41:22 > 0:41:24so he would have probably been too old

0:41:24 > 0:41:26to serve in the Second World War,

0:41:26 > 0:41:29so he took part in some way, perhaps he was a Special Constable.

0:41:29 > 0:41:34And that's going to be worth somewhere in the region of £800.

0:41:36 > 0:41:37Best...

0:41:37 > 0:41:40- you're right.- I had a vague idea, I thought, "They're crosses."- Yes.

0:41:40 > 0:41:44- But go on, cos I didn't really know. - Well, this is the important medal.

0:41:44 > 0:41:49This is the Military Cross, but it's even more important than that,

0:41:49 > 0:41:51because do you see this bar here?

0:41:51 > 0:41:53It means he was awarded it twice.

0:41:53 > 0:41:57so not only did he perform some act of gallantry

0:41:57 > 0:41:59to be awarded the Military Cross,

0:41:59 > 0:42:02but he performed ANOTHER act of heroism,

0:42:02 > 0:42:04- and so he was put up for it again. - Gosh.

0:42:04 > 0:42:06You can't be awarded the same medal twice, of course,

0:42:06 > 0:42:09so he was awarded the bar to go with it.

0:42:09 > 0:42:12I think we should name him, if he was that courageous.

0:42:12 > 0:42:15"Captain John Williams, 15th Battalion Welsh Regiment."

0:42:15 > 0:42:16A very brave man.

0:42:16 > 0:42:22And I happen to know that he was mainly responsible

0:42:22 > 0:42:24for the capture of Thiepval Ridge

0:42:24 > 0:42:29and Pozieres village in 1918, during the First World War,

0:42:29 > 0:42:34and the capture of many German guns and over 1,000 prisoners.

0:42:34 > 0:42:37And you found this out by researching his background?

0:42:37 > 0:42:40- He was a very, very brave and courageous man.- Goodness me.

0:42:40 > 0:42:44And this group is going to be worth somewhere in the region of...

0:42:44 > 0:42:47£4,000 or £5,000.

0:42:47 > 0:42:49Gosh. Well, as I say,

0:42:49 > 0:42:53it does seem slightly invidious, really, talking about the value,

0:42:53 > 0:42:55when clearly to have fought with medals like this,

0:42:55 > 0:42:58you have shown bravery by being on the field.

0:42:58 > 0:43:01I hope it's given you some insight, if you have medals at home,

0:43:01 > 0:43:05of relatives, now you have an idea of what to look for, and what value they may have,

0:43:05 > 0:43:08or if you want to bring them along to a Roadshow,

0:43:08 > 0:43:09have a look at our website...

0:43:11 > 0:43:13You can see the locations we're coming to

0:43:13 > 0:43:15and maybe you could pay us a visit.

0:43:19 > 0:43:22This is a first for me -

0:43:22 > 0:43:25an artist's lay figure.

0:43:25 > 0:43:29- Presumably?- And a horse.

0:43:29 > 0:43:34I have never ever seen an articulated horse before.

0:43:34 > 0:43:38- I must admit, nor have we, ever. - So tell me your story.

0:43:38 > 0:43:42I've known it all my life, it was at my aunt's house.

0:43:42 > 0:43:48She had it on a bench in the hallway,

0:43:48 > 0:43:50and she died intestate.

0:43:50 > 0:43:53I was asked by my other aunt to go in -

0:43:53 > 0:43:57"Take what you need, what you like,"

0:43:57 > 0:44:00and along with my husband, we took a few things

0:44:00 > 0:44:02and this was one of them,

0:44:02 > 0:44:04cos I love it, and I've been riding all my life.

0:44:04 > 0:44:06I really can't blame you.

0:44:06 > 0:44:09I think it is absolutely fantastic.

0:44:09 > 0:44:12It's got a plaque here that says,

0:44:12 > 0:44:16"J Mayer & A. Fessler, Wien".

0:44:16 > 0:44:20Vienna, so was anybody in your family an artist?

0:44:20 > 0:44:24My aunt, who owned the horse, her father was an artist.

0:44:24 > 0:44:27- Right, well, there you have it. - So... Yeah.

0:44:29 > 0:44:32I would think this dates from about the turn of the century,

0:44:32 > 0:44:38about 1900, solid walnut, a jointed lay figure,

0:44:38 > 0:44:40an articulated horse,

0:44:40 > 0:44:46to show a student of art perspective, how an arm moves.

0:44:48 > 0:44:49I just love it.

0:44:49 > 0:44:55And, I mean, even his ears move. I mean, it's just fantastic.

0:44:56 > 0:44:58It goes into two categories.

0:44:58 > 0:45:02Obviously, we've spoken about the artistic use of it,

0:45:02 > 0:45:07but these days, to me, it's a sculpture,

0:45:07 > 0:45:10and you know, it would be fantastically popular

0:45:10 > 0:45:12if it was ever to come up for sale.

0:45:13 > 0:45:18Well, I don't think, quite honestly, it will be up for sale.

0:45:18 > 0:45:20It's worth a lot of money.

0:45:20 > 0:45:24I'm going to be quite cautious in my valuation.

0:45:24 > 0:45:28For the moment, I'm going to put £2,000 on it.

0:45:31 > 0:45:32Mm!

0:45:32 > 0:45:34Oh, yes?

0:45:34 > 0:45:38Somewhat more than we thought, quite honestly.

0:45:38 > 0:45:44But I can see it, in a retail shop, with a much bigger price than that.

0:45:47 > 0:45:49Wonderful day like today, that, filled,

0:45:49 > 0:45:51would have been wonderful, wouldn't it?

0:45:51 > 0:45:55- Well, it would have been, but I didn't happen to think about it.- Ah.

0:45:55 > 0:45:56I would have done so.

0:45:56 > 0:45:58- Yeah, you do get thirsty doing this.- Yes.

0:45:58 > 0:46:01What you've brought in here is one of the finest tankards

0:46:01 > 0:46:05I've seen in a long while.

0:46:05 > 0:46:08- Is that so?- It is superb.- Yes.

0:46:08 > 0:46:10There are so many wonderful features to it.

0:46:10 > 0:46:14If you look for, example, at the thumb piece,

0:46:14 > 0:46:20just that simple scroll and the chunkiness of it -

0:46:20 > 0:46:22brilliant!

0:46:22 > 0:46:24It's not the standard thumb piece.

0:46:24 > 0:46:27The way the hinge is arranged is pretty standard

0:46:27 > 0:46:32but the way the handle is designed - wonderful.

0:46:32 > 0:46:34That extra little kick at the bottom,

0:46:34 > 0:46:37not just a straight forward "S", but the scroll there

0:46:37 > 0:46:40and then another scroll starting up

0:46:40 > 0:46:43and this lovely faceting on the handle.

0:46:44 > 0:46:47- It all shrieks quality.- Goodness me.

0:46:47 > 0:46:51Of course, when we look at the maker's mark,

0:46:51 > 0:46:56- we've got the mark of one of my favourite goldsmiths.- Really?

0:46:56 > 0:47:02So one of the greatest of all time, a certain Mr David Willaume.

0:47:02 > 0:47:07And interesting, tankards by Huguenot goldsmiths -

0:47:07 > 0:47:10of course, the recently-arrived French refugees -

0:47:10 > 0:47:14tankards are things that they rarely made.

0:47:14 > 0:47:19- Is that so?- But boy, when they made a tankard, did they make a tankard.

0:47:19 > 0:47:21Oh, I'm so pleased about that.

0:47:21 > 0:47:23Wonderful. And the engraving.

0:47:23 > 0:47:25The engraving is OK?

0:47:25 > 0:47:29Absolutely super, and that cipher is just right for the date.

0:47:30 > 0:47:33- But, of course, what is the date? - Yes.

0:47:33 > 0:47:381723 with that "H",

0:47:38 > 0:47:41and, again, a sign of the quality,

0:47:41 > 0:47:46that David Willaume has made this out of Britannia Standard Silver,

0:47:46 > 0:47:49the 958 standard rather than the 925 standard.

0:47:49 > 0:47:51So it's better than sterling silver?

0:47:51 > 0:47:54It is indeed, it's the higher standard,

0:47:54 > 0:47:57which, at the time this was made, he didn't have to use,

0:47:57 > 0:48:00but because he was so good, he did.

0:48:00 > 0:48:02My word, I'm pleased to hear that.

0:48:02 > 0:48:04Now, is it a family piece?

0:48:04 > 0:48:07No, no, no. I bought it about two years ago.

0:48:07 > 0:48:11So what did you pay for it?

0:48:11 > 0:48:14Well, so long as my wife isn't listening...

0:48:14 > 0:48:19- £2,000.- Well, I have to say, I think you did very well.

0:48:19 > 0:48:21Oh, I'm pleased to hear that!

0:48:21 > 0:48:26A tankard of this quality, by such an important maker,

0:48:26 > 0:48:29£3,000, £4,000, I think, quite easily.

0:48:29 > 0:48:33My word. Why, that's delightful to hear.

0:48:33 > 0:48:36- Thank you so much.- Thank you.

0:48:38 > 0:48:41How does a lady wearing a jacket as fantastic as that,

0:48:41 > 0:48:44come to own a piece like this?

0:48:44 > 0:48:48My father bought it for my mother about 40 years ago.

0:48:48 > 0:48:51My mother's died now, so my daughter's inherited it,

0:48:51 > 0:48:53so I brought it up for her tonight.

0:48:53 > 0:48:57So why did he buy it for her? Was she particularly attracted to birds?

0:48:57 > 0:49:00- It was the sort of thing she really liked, yes.- OK.

0:49:00 > 0:49:02I don't know where he bought it.

0:49:02 > 0:49:05It's been in the family about 30 or 40 years now, I should imagine.

0:49:05 > 0:49:08OK, you don't have any idea what he paid for it?

0:49:08 > 0:49:10- Or where he might have bought it? - No, no, I don't.

0:49:10 > 0:49:13OK. Well, actually, if you don't know that,

0:49:13 > 0:49:16you can add a little bit of revenue out of it, too.

0:49:16 > 0:49:18- And he starts moving his head and singing.- Yes, yes.

0:49:18 > 0:49:20He's a quiet one, he's quite silent.

0:49:20 > 0:49:22- It's gone quiet. - It's late in the day.

0:49:22 > 0:49:25My mum used to put the penny in and he used to make more noise.

0:49:25 > 0:49:27So he loved your mother?

0:49:27 > 0:49:29Yeah, he did love my mum, I think.

0:49:29 > 0:49:32- He was happy when she was around. - Yes, I think so. Yeah.

0:49:32 > 0:49:34He needs restoring again,

0:49:34 > 0:49:37- as I'm sure he'll love your daughter as well.- Yes.

0:49:37 > 0:49:40These are real feathers, but obviously the bird

0:49:40 > 0:49:43is covered inside, and I think he'll come up wonderfully bright.

0:49:43 > 0:49:46And quite snazzy, actually, when he's had a good bit of a clean.

0:49:46 > 0:49:48- Yeah.- And his bellows, too.

0:49:48 > 0:49:50You'll hear him, he'll sing sweetly again.

0:49:50 > 0:49:53What's interesting is that these were made

0:49:53 > 0:49:55for parlours in the 19th century

0:49:55 > 0:49:57- and they were effectively a rich person's toy.- Yes.

0:49:57 > 0:50:00They were for entertainment, you'd have them in a corner.

0:50:00 > 0:50:02- Like a cylinder music box.- Yes, yes.

0:50:02 > 0:50:06Wind it up, play a tune, and ha ha, everybody had a lovely time.

0:50:06 > 0:50:08They were made in France, often with Swiss movements.

0:50:08 > 0:50:11This was made probably in the late 19th century,

0:50:11 > 0:50:12- so probably the 1880s.- Yeah.

0:50:12 > 0:50:15- This wonderful decorative panel. - Gorgeous.

0:50:15 > 0:50:19- He's quite magnificent.- Yeah. - They're very sought-after pieces.

0:50:19 > 0:50:22- Ah! There we are, then. - He's quite large.- Yes.

0:50:22 > 0:50:24- In need of a bit of repair.- Yes.

0:50:24 > 0:50:27And I still think you're looking at around £2,000.

0:50:27 > 0:50:29Gosh, that's great.

0:50:29 > 0:50:31So make sure that when he's spick-and-span again,

0:50:31 > 0:50:34and ready to go, he takes pride of place in the living room

0:50:34 > 0:50:38- and he can sing once again with joy.- Great.

0:50:38 > 0:50:40BIRD WHISTLES FAINTLY

0:50:46 > 0:50:48Here's a picture that really does tell a story.

0:50:48 > 0:50:51I look at this, I see barrage balloons.

0:50:51 > 0:50:55The lovely old boy here with his fork and spade, holding a pipe,

0:50:55 > 0:50:58and people digging in the background.

0:50:58 > 0:51:01It's done in watercolour and it makes me think,

0:51:01 > 0:51:04Second World War and digging for victory.

0:51:04 > 0:51:05Does it have a title?

0:51:05 > 0:51:09- Yes, yes, it is called Dig For Victory, yes.- Is it?- Yes, yes.

0:51:09 > 0:51:14- And how did you get it? - My grandfather bought four paintings

0:51:14 > 0:51:17from the artist in Birmingham,

0:51:17 > 0:51:19two oil paintings, two watercolours.

0:51:19 > 0:51:26I have an oil painting as well and my brother has an oil and a watercolour.

0:51:26 > 0:51:28And it's signed down here, A C Shorthouse,

0:51:28 > 0:51:31which is Arthur Charles Shorthouse.

0:51:31 > 0:51:33I've hardly ever seen any work by him.

0:51:33 > 0:51:36- No, no, yes. - He was born in Birmingham in 1870

0:51:36 > 0:51:38and he lived up to the 1950s.

0:51:38 > 0:51:41- Ah, right.- And he exhibited a few times at the Royal Academy

0:51:41 > 0:51:43and also in Birmingham.

0:51:43 > 0:51:46- Yes.- So he was a member of the Society of Birmingham Artists,

0:51:46 > 0:51:50but I don't care that I don't really know this artist.

0:51:50 > 0:51:52- No. - Because it's such fantastic quality.

0:51:52 > 0:51:54I look at his face and I think -

0:51:54 > 0:51:57well here's a man who's probably gone through the First World War

0:51:57 > 0:51:59and is facing the Second World War,

0:51:59 > 0:52:04and you know, it's almost as though it was done for a poster.

0:52:04 > 0:52:06Because there have been posters for digging for victory.

0:52:06 > 0:52:09- Yes, of course. - Because in the Second World War

0:52:09 > 0:52:12people had to dig up their gardens and grow things because of shortage.

0:52:12 > 0:52:14- Yes, right. - But he's got such character,

0:52:14 > 0:52:18and I love the blueness in his eyes,

0:52:18 > 0:52:21with age, people go like that, and it's just - you know -

0:52:21 > 0:52:23it sort of tells a story.

0:52:23 > 0:52:26And the blues in the background are

0:52:26 > 0:52:30so well defined, but then we see flecks around here

0:52:30 > 0:52:33and are they - I wonder whether these are brushes off his...

0:52:33 > 0:52:36They look like, yes, hairs off his brushes.

0:52:36 > 0:52:39- Hairs off his paintbrushes, that's right.- Definitely, yes.

0:52:39 > 0:52:44Well, I think he's an artist that is not hugely valuable.

0:52:44 > 0:52:45No.

0:52:45 > 0:52:49- But I look at this and I think the subject matter makes it valuable. - Yes.

0:52:49 > 0:52:51And to me, if I was collecting -

0:52:51 > 0:52:57you know - Second World War pictures, I'd really want this in my collection

0:52:57 > 0:53:02and I think this would probably make - in auction - £1,000 to £1,500.

0:53:02 > 0:53:05Oh right, yes. Lovely, yes, thank you very much.

0:53:08 > 0:53:11I suppose what I expected least to see in West Wales is this

0:53:11 > 0:53:14wonderful array of Native North American beadwork.

0:53:14 > 0:53:18I am actually overcome by the sort of diversity, the richness of it.

0:53:18 > 0:53:21Tell me the background, why have you got it?

0:53:21 > 0:53:23I inherited it from my nana,

0:53:23 > 0:53:27it was my nana's Uncle Tommy who went over to British Columbia

0:53:27 > 0:53:30in the early 1900s and he went there to work - he was a missionary.

0:53:30 > 0:53:33- Right.- He went over to work in a school over there.

0:53:33 > 0:53:35- Yeah.- And she inherited it down then to her,

0:53:35 > 0:53:37and then obviously I inherited it then.

0:53:37 > 0:53:39So working as a missionary,

0:53:39 > 0:53:42- he was in contact obviously with various tribes.- Yes.

0:53:42 > 0:53:45- And so these are things he brought back.- Yes.

0:53:45 > 0:53:49- To show how it had been. - Yes, they gifted these items to him,

0:53:49 > 0:53:51and also you can see some of them have been worn as well, by him.

0:53:51 > 0:53:55Often we see things like this, but it's very rare

0:53:55 > 0:53:58- that you can actually precisely time the event.- Yeah.

0:53:58 > 0:54:00- What have you got there? - Well, what I've got here is...

0:54:00 > 0:54:03- Is that a picture?- Yeah, that's Uncle Tommy.

0:54:03 > 0:54:06So here we have this intrepid man in his fur coat.

0:54:06 > 0:54:10- Yes.- In the snow. - Over there, yes, at the time. - Do you know much about him?

0:54:10 > 0:54:14Not an awful lot, no. Unfortunately, my nana's passed away, so I don't... I obviously never met him.

0:54:14 > 0:54:19- No, no.- So I don't know an awful lot about him as a person, no. - And this is what?

0:54:19 > 0:54:22This is a letter then, the date there, August 20th.

0:54:22 > 0:54:24OK, well this is, yes, August 20th 1909,

0:54:24 > 0:54:26now this is crucial.

0:54:26 > 0:54:29- I mean obviously writing letters home.- Yeah.- I won't read it all

0:54:29 > 0:54:33- but I'm sure it's full of interesting facts.- Yes.- But the point to establish is,

0:54:33 > 0:54:38he was miles away from everywhere, and therefore leading a very, very remote life.

0:54:38 > 0:54:40Now the first thing I'm going to tell you

0:54:40 > 0:54:43is obviously, by and large, these are things of that period.

0:54:43 > 0:54:47And a lot of this material can go back to much earlier dates.

0:54:47 > 0:54:53- Right.- The only thing that may well be earlier here are the gauntlets. - OK.

0:54:53 > 0:54:56- Those could go back into the 19th century.- Oh gosh, right, OK.

0:54:56 > 0:55:00We've got typical beadwork styles.

0:55:00 > 0:55:05What we've also got to acknowledge is - by now, while these are tribal pieces,

0:55:05 > 0:55:08a lot of them were being made for people like him.

0:55:08 > 0:55:13- Right.- We've got - in a sense - the tourist element, the visitor element.- OK.

0:55:13 > 0:55:18So the famous pieces like the slippers, the gloves

0:55:18 > 0:55:20and so on, the purses, the bags,

0:55:20 > 0:55:24were very much tourist minded by the makers.

0:55:24 > 0:55:26- OK, yes.- And so on that basis,

0:55:26 > 0:55:29it's not that surprising that they did move out from Canada

0:55:29 > 0:55:31into places like Wales.

0:55:31 > 0:55:36We've got pipes - traditional cut from stone type pipes.

0:55:36 > 0:55:40But the things that excite me most of all are these.

0:55:40 > 0:55:43- OK.- Now why do you think those are different?

0:55:43 > 0:55:45- They're incredible pieces of... - I'm glad you say that.- Yes.

0:55:45 > 0:55:50They're made from a material called argillite which is a stone

0:55:50 > 0:55:53that only occurs in a certain region of Western Canada.

0:55:53 > 0:55:58- Oh, right. - And they are totally the product of one tribe, the Haida tribe.

0:55:58 > 0:56:03- Oh right, OK.- The Haidas actually sit on the world's resources of argillite.

0:56:03 > 0:56:07It's slightly related to slate and when it comes out of the ground,

0:56:07 > 0:56:10it's quite soft and it can be carved,

0:56:10 > 0:56:13and then it becomes harder and harder and harder,

0:56:13 > 0:56:16and it was used from the early 19th century

0:56:16 > 0:56:22for carving things like miniature totem poles and figures that relate

0:56:22 > 0:56:25to all the creatures and animals

0:56:25 > 0:56:28that are significant to the tribe.

0:56:28 > 0:56:31- Yes.- So a piece like this is a wonderful piece of story-telling.

0:56:31 > 0:56:37- All the figures are symbolic and it is this smooth stone-like material. - Yes.

0:56:37 > 0:56:39There's nothing like it in the world anywhere else.

0:56:39 > 0:56:42This is excellent, but fairly typical,

0:56:42 > 0:56:45this is just completely exceptional.

0:56:45 > 0:56:50- Oh right, OK.- So to see that is just sort of blowing my mind out.

0:56:50 > 0:56:53You're sitting on, here, a remarkable collection,

0:56:53 > 0:56:56- and I have to say, quite a valuable collection.- OK.

0:56:56 > 0:57:00A pair of gauntlets like that is probably £500, £600, £700.

0:57:00 > 0:57:01OK.

0:57:01 > 0:57:06The slippers are £200 to £400.

0:57:06 > 0:57:11All the smaller pieces are £100 to £200 and sometimes more,

0:57:11 > 0:57:18so you've got probably £2,000 or £3,000 worth in the beadwork.

0:57:18 > 0:57:21- OK. - Come on to the argillite.

0:57:21 > 0:57:27- That's going to be £1,500 - £2,000. - Oh, my gosh.

0:57:27 > 0:57:29This is going to be - it's such a fantastic piece -

0:57:29 > 0:57:31it's going to be...

0:57:31 > 0:57:36oh, between £2,000 and £3,000 - or even £4,000.

0:57:36 > 0:57:38Oh, my gosh, I never...

0:57:38 > 0:57:42So put it all together, you're getting towards £8,000 or £10,000.

0:57:42 > 0:57:44- Wow, how incredible. - So, he did you proud.

0:57:44 > 0:57:47Yes, he did. And my nana, yes, for keeping all the stuff.

0:57:47 > 0:57:48I've dreamed for years

0:57:48 > 0:57:51to have a really great piece of argillite on the Roadshow.

0:57:51 > 0:57:53- Oh, right.- You've done it for me.

0:57:53 > 0:57:56- OK, oh, thank you.- So thank you very much.- Oh, no problem.

0:57:57 > 0:58:01What a great end to the day for Paul. Our experts never know

0:58:01 > 0:58:05whether they're going to see collections from halfway around the globe or just around the corner.

0:58:07 > 0:58:10It's been wonderful here at Aberystwyth Arts Centre.

0:58:10 > 0:58:13From all of the Roadshow team, until next time, bye-bye.

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