0:00:02 > 0:00:06This week, the Roadshow comes from a town on the edge of Cardigan Bay.
0:00:06 > 0:00:10It was known in the 1920s as the "Biarritz of Wales".
0:00:10 > 0:00:13Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from Aberystwyth.
0:00:56 > 0:00:59Bringing the Antiques Roadshow team here to Aberystwyth has been
0:00:59 > 0:01:03a pretty long journey for all those involved and, in fact,
0:01:03 > 0:01:08Aberystwyth's remoteness was often a problem in the past, particularly
0:01:08 > 0:01:12for the Victorians who liked to come here and dip their toes in the sea.
0:01:12 > 0:01:16And, in fact, promenades like this were constructed so they could
0:01:16 > 0:01:18show off their fashionable clothes, and take the air.
0:01:20 > 0:01:23'But, if the town was to become a top holiday destination,
0:01:23 > 0:01:27'it needed one thing in particular - a good public transport system.'
0:01:31 > 0:01:33TRAIN WHISTLES
0:01:33 > 0:01:38In 1861, the Aberystwyth and Welsh Coast Railway Company was formed,
0:01:38 > 0:01:42and awarded the contract of forging a rail link to Aberystwyth.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54Well, it was quite an event,
0:01:54 > 0:01:58the day the town celebrated the official opening of its new railway line.
0:01:58 > 0:02:03On 22nd July 1864, there was a large procession through the town
0:02:03 > 0:02:07and then a train with 35 coaches, carrying nearly 2,000 passengers,
0:02:07 > 0:02:10pulled up to Aberystwyth station.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18Now, before I go, there's one thing I've got to do, which is...
0:02:18 > 0:02:20..kick the bar.
0:02:20 > 0:02:25Because I'm reliably informed that, for years, visitors have ended their walk along the promenade
0:02:25 > 0:02:27by coming here and kicking the bar.
0:02:27 > 0:02:30I don't know why. It seems a funny thing to do.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33But I've seen people do it and, apparently, it brings good luck.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36Let's hope that luck is with us today,
0:02:36 > 0:02:40as we join our experts at Aberystwyth Arts Centre at the university campus.
0:02:42 > 0:02:46When I was coming up on the train yesterday, with my colleague,
0:02:46 > 0:02:51I said to her, "The one thing I would really like to see tomorrow is a spoon rack."
0:02:51 > 0:02:59When you came into reception, she came running over and she said,
0:02:59 > 0:03:03- "I've got somebody you must meet." And here you are!- Yeah. Here I am.
0:03:03 > 0:03:06How far back can you remember them in your family?
0:03:06 > 0:03:12Well, I remember my father talking about his grandfather using them,
0:03:12 > 0:03:15so that would be my great-great-great grandfather.
0:03:15 > 0:03:19So that takes us almost back to the beginning of the 1800s.
0:03:19 > 0:03:24- Where was that?- That was in a little village called Llanfihangel ar Arth.
0:03:24 > 0:03:26I'm glad you said that and not me!
0:03:26 > 0:03:31In the north of Carmarthenshire, really, still in Carmarthenshire.
0:03:31 > 0:03:34- And were they in a farmhouse? - A smallholding.
0:03:34 > 0:03:36What they used to call a longhouse.
0:03:36 > 0:03:42One main room, one bedroom, with a bedroom door leading into the cowshed.
0:03:42 > 0:03:46- And these would have hung on the wall?- On the kitchen wall.
0:03:46 > 0:03:48And tell me how they were used?
0:03:48 > 0:03:53They were used for what, in the Welsh was called cawl, which is broth.
0:03:53 > 0:03:56Put a big pan on the fire, open fire.
0:03:56 > 0:04:03Potatoes, meat, onions, carrots, parsnips, swedes
0:04:03 > 0:04:07and last, before serving it, the leeks.
0:04:07 > 0:04:12I bet it was one of those dishes that, when you had it the second day, it tasted even better.
0:04:12 > 0:04:14Oh, much, much nicer, much nicer.
0:04:14 > 0:04:20But what I love about this is that it is a design, a shape, that has never changed.
0:04:20 > 0:04:23It could have been made in 1780,
0:04:23 > 0:04:26it would have been looking just the same in the 1880s.
0:04:26 > 0:04:30Very simply made from local wood,
0:04:30 > 0:04:34the actual rack is pine with a bit of staining, but it's got this
0:04:34 > 0:04:37sort of lovely blackness over it, which must have been from the smoke.
0:04:37 > 0:04:42- Smoke, most probably.- And all the spoons are, you know, wiggly waggly
0:04:42 > 0:04:45and they would have just been simply carved, wouldn't they?
0:04:45 > 0:04:48- Whittled away in the evening. - Front of the fire.
0:04:48 > 0:04:53Front of the fire. This piece speaks family - family life,
0:04:53 > 0:04:57children round a table, they just are a dream.
0:04:57 > 0:05:01- You can picture it, can't you? - So how long ago were they last used?
0:05:01 > 0:05:04I think they were last used in 1986.
0:05:04 > 0:05:09- I think Health and Safety might have something to say about it now.- Yes!
0:05:09 > 0:05:13I can't tell you how thrilled I am to see them, and so many spoons.
0:05:14 > 0:05:16So, now to value.
0:05:16 > 0:05:21I mean, to me, they are as rare as hen's teeth these days.
0:05:21 > 0:05:25- Families have kept them, they were passed down... - They will be passed down.
0:05:25 > 0:05:29..generation to generation. So how often do they come to market?
0:05:29 > 0:05:31Why would anybody want to sell them?
0:05:31 > 0:05:34But I have to put a price on because that's what we're about,
0:05:34 > 0:05:37and I would say somewhere in the region of
0:05:37 > 0:05:43- £400 or £500...- What!? - ..is a gentle price.
0:05:45 > 0:05:47Oh...
0:05:47 > 0:05:51Surprised, really surprised.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57- A group of tiny toys. - Very tiny.
0:05:57 > 0:05:59Now, whose are they?
0:05:59 > 0:06:01They belong to me now. They were my father's.
0:06:01 > 0:06:06He had them from a very early age.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09I presume they came from his father.
0:06:09 > 0:06:13I really don't know and they'd just been wrapped up in tissue paper
0:06:13 > 0:06:14in a little case for ages.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17Well, that's lovely that they're family things.
0:06:17 > 0:06:21I hope you can understand what I'm saying, I've got a terrible voice - I'm losing it.
0:06:21 > 0:06:25- Anyway, do you know what they're called?- Haven't got a clue.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28- They're called penny toys.- Right.
0:06:28 > 0:06:32They were called penny toys because they tended to be sold
0:06:32 > 0:06:38- by street vendors, with a tray out, for a penny a go.- Oh, right.
0:06:38 > 0:06:43And these street vendors were buying them for about eight shillings,
0:06:43 > 0:06:47that's 96 old pennies,
0:06:47 > 0:06:50for a gross, which is 144 items.
0:06:50 > 0:06:53- So, you know, it was a good little money earner.- Yes.
0:06:53 > 0:06:56And they had no overheads other than their tray.
0:06:56 > 0:07:00So penny toys are perhaps the toys that
0:07:00 > 0:07:03a lot of children would have seen
0:07:03 > 0:07:07as their first introduction to tin plate toys.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09They were made in Germany
0:07:09 > 0:07:13and there is nothing on these to indicate where they were made.
0:07:13 > 0:07:15No, you wouldn't know.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18A couple of them have got the clue, which is "Ges Gesch",
0:07:18 > 0:07:21which means that that particular design
0:07:21 > 0:07:24has been registered in Germany, so if you
0:07:24 > 0:07:28knew that, you'd be able to put two and two together and make it work.
0:07:28 > 0:07:31But the other thing is that they were very clever
0:07:31 > 0:07:36about making things for particular markets, and so the little bus
0:07:36 > 0:07:40here - for instance - is a London bus with London destinations on it.
0:07:40 > 0:07:43And the ambulance, similarly - you know -
0:07:43 > 0:07:47this is a London ambulance, and so the German manufacturing
0:07:47 > 0:07:52- companies were making things to appeal to particular markets.- Right.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54Well, there were three big makers.
0:07:54 > 0:07:56One was a company called Distler,
0:07:56 > 0:08:00one was a company called Fischer and the other one was Meier.
0:08:00 > 0:08:04All three companies are represented here, I'm sure.
0:08:04 > 0:08:06The absolute heyday for producing
0:08:06 > 0:08:12and selling these penny toys was between about 1895 and 1914,
0:08:12 > 0:08:18- so that fits in well with your father's father.- Yes.
0:08:18 > 0:08:21And I have to say, that even though they're tiny,
0:08:21 > 0:08:24an awful lot of work went into these.
0:08:24 > 0:08:27Some of them are clockwork - none of these are -
0:08:27 > 0:08:31- but they do have movement, don't they?- They do, yes, yes.
0:08:31 > 0:08:34This here, has got a little flywheel underneath it,
0:08:34 > 0:08:37there it is,
0:08:37 > 0:08:40and if you spin that axle,
0:08:40 > 0:08:45the wheels then rub against the turning axle and move it forward.
0:08:45 > 0:08:48I mean, it's so simple.
0:08:48 > 0:08:52I wonder if your father's father - your grandfather -
0:08:52 > 0:08:56- actually bought them from one of those street vendors for a penny a go.- Possible, very possible.
0:08:56 > 0:08:58When was he born?
0:08:58 > 0:09:01Oh, I really don't know. Late 1800s.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- Well, then it could easily be, couldn't it?- Yes, yes, could be.
0:09:04 > 0:09:08What a great idea, that this has come straight from that street vendor.
0:09:08 > 0:09:12- Well, I have to say that these are sought after today.- Really?
0:09:12 > 0:09:15They jolly well are, and I think that what you've got here -
0:09:15 > 0:09:18I mean some are worth £100 or so...
0:09:18 > 0:09:22- No!- ..and some are worth considerably more.
0:09:22 > 0:09:25No! No, you're - no, really?
0:09:25 > 0:09:26No.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28No, see I knew you were telling me fibs!
0:09:28 > 0:09:32They're little things - they're not going to be worth much.
0:09:32 > 0:09:35- Oh, they're so fragile and... - And they're in rubbish condition.
0:09:35 > 0:09:39- Yes, they are!- I would say what you've got here is going to be worth
0:09:39 > 0:09:44- getting on for £2,000. - What! Oh, get me a seat.
0:09:44 > 0:09:46THEY LAUGH
0:09:46 > 0:09:49- No!- So do I say that they're "pennies from heaven"?
0:09:49 > 0:09:53They certainly are! I hope my dad's watching today.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00Do you know, when people bring these pictures into me,
0:10:00 > 0:10:02especially shipping portraits like this,
0:10:02 > 0:10:06I'm very tempted to ask you, "Is someone in your family
0:10:06 > 0:10:09"or has someone in your past, been captain of this boat?"
0:10:09 > 0:10:11Well, yes they have.
0:10:11 > 0:10:15My grandfather's brother was the captain of this ship.
0:10:15 > 0:10:18- And so was your grandfather's brother David Jones?- Yes, he was.
0:10:18 > 0:10:23Well, I think is a really interesting picture, and it's
0:10:23 > 0:10:26so nice to have the continuity that it was a relation of yours
0:10:26 > 0:10:29that was the captain of this boat, and it's still in the family.
0:10:29 > 0:10:31Now, when we look at this,
0:10:31 > 0:10:34we've got the name of the Brig - the Mary Ann Newett -
0:10:34 > 0:10:37and then David Jones, 1861, so that's when he was being captain.
0:10:37 > 0:10:42So you're captain of the boat and David Jones sails down
0:10:42 > 0:10:44to the Bay of Naples, and that's the ideal place
0:10:44 > 0:10:49to get your boat painted because there were a lot of artists there
0:10:49 > 0:10:52and we can see it's signed Raffaele Corsini who is a very well-known
0:10:52 > 0:10:56Italian painter of boats in the mid 19th century, doing it for captains.
0:10:56 > 0:10:58And he painted them in gouache,
0:10:58 > 0:11:01which is a form of watercolour, thick watercolour.
0:11:01 > 0:11:06And this picture is in quite good condition.
0:11:06 > 0:11:10Quite often I see these, they have brown marks down them, which I call
0:11:10 > 0:11:14water staining as captains had them in their cabins, and sometimes water's seeped in
0:11:14 > 0:11:16the back through the pine backing.
0:11:16 > 0:11:20But it's just fantastic because it's so original.
0:11:20 > 0:11:23I feel that, you know, the ship is so serene, and then you've got
0:11:23 > 0:11:28this angry sea under the ship. It's marvellous, actually.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31What is a picture like that worth with that provenance?
0:11:31 > 0:11:37Well, he is collected. And this - even in this condition -
0:11:37 > 0:11:41in a marine auction, it would make at least £2,000 to £3,000.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45Mmh, quite surprised. Very surprised, actually.
0:11:50 > 0:11:54This very elaborate carved wood cover with tiny, tiny lettering
0:11:54 > 0:11:58saying "my travels" must hide a photograph album, I'm guessing.
0:11:58 > 0:12:01Yes, it's the album of my great-grandfather,
0:12:01 > 0:12:05and when he retired from the Indian Army - he was a Major General in the Indian Army.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08When he retired, he went up into the hills with his big box camera
0:12:08 > 0:12:11and he went on a long, long trek up into the Himalayas
0:12:11 > 0:12:13and he never returned to Britain,
0:12:13 > 0:12:18- so he lived out there his whole life actually, and died out there. - Really? Let's have a look inside.
0:12:18 > 0:12:23Here we have an ownership inscription. "WE Marshall, Major General, September 1887".
0:12:23 > 0:12:26- Now we start with a route map.- Yes.
0:12:26 > 0:12:29So that explains all, and we've got some fillings in here,
0:12:29 > 0:12:31which I guess was done by your relative.
0:12:31 > 0:12:34Yes, he says he filled it in on the journey. I don't know quite how,
0:12:34 > 0:12:37but maybe he didn't know where he was going to go.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40He started off here and then to Simla - the hill station here,
0:12:40 > 0:12:44then he went all through Ledakh all the way up here to Lei which is just in Southern Tibet.
0:12:44 > 0:12:47This is him here, William Eliot Marshall
0:12:47 > 0:12:51and a photograph of him, taken by himself just after his return.
0:12:51 > 0:12:53Aged 48 years.
0:12:53 > 0:12:57Yeah, one year older than me, and he looks a lot worse!
0:12:57 > 0:12:59I think they must have been some travels.
0:12:59 > 0:13:02Well, that is a nice start. Let's have a little look further through.
0:13:02 > 0:13:06He's captioned all the photographs and most of them are by him.
0:13:06 > 0:13:09Isn't that a wonderful group shot?
0:13:09 > 0:13:12Very artistic in its composition, I do believe,
0:13:12 > 0:13:14but very historical as well.
0:13:14 > 0:13:15Now if we move on.
0:13:15 > 0:13:21In these days, photographs would have required a team to carry
0:13:21 > 0:13:25the equipment. I know that Vaughn and Sheppard developed their photographs
0:13:25 > 0:13:28on the spot, took photographs, developed on the spot and decided
0:13:28 > 0:13:32what they were going to do with them, so this is not just a one-man expedition.
0:13:32 > 0:13:35Did he publish at the end of all this?
0:13:35 > 0:13:38He did write a book later on about his life with a Southern Indian tribe.
0:13:38 > 0:13:43- Right, right, so this was sort of preliminary work. - Yes. What I like about this,
0:13:43 > 0:13:46and what I find interesting is, for somebody in the army,
0:13:46 > 0:13:49- he seemed to have a real respect for the local people.- I think that shows
0:13:49 > 0:13:53through the compositions. Lots of studies of local people
0:13:53 > 0:13:56and really nicely taken. Look at those children.
0:13:56 > 0:13:58The whole album is like this throughout,
0:13:58 > 0:14:00captioned from beginning to end,
0:14:00 > 0:14:02which is a really key factor in value.
0:14:02 > 0:14:06Without the captions, we wouldn't know half as much as we do know about it.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09So many albums like this have been split up and destroyed.
0:14:09 > 0:14:11The integrity of this album
0:14:11 > 0:14:15- I think stands for at least half of its value.- Oh right, right.
0:14:15 > 0:14:19So, what are you going to do with it? Will you keep it, sell it?
0:14:19 > 0:14:22I'm going to keep it - if you tell me it's worth a fortune, maybe not.
0:14:22 > 0:14:23But I'm hoping it isn't.
0:14:23 > 0:14:27Well, this is - this sort of thing is very desirable.
0:14:27 > 0:14:30It's in a fine binding, very intricate,
0:14:30 > 0:14:32and I just love the whole package.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35So I'm going to suggest an auction value of between £5,000 and £7,000.
0:14:35 > 0:14:39- Excellent, lovely. We'll still keep it!- Fair enough!
0:14:43 > 0:14:47If it wasn't for this, we'd probably all be speaking French now.
0:14:47 > 0:14:49This is the Brown Bess Musket,
0:14:49 > 0:14:52probably the most iconic weapon the British Army's ever had.
0:14:52 > 0:14:55Brown Bess - do you know why it's called the Brown Bess?
0:14:55 > 0:14:57I'm sorry, I don't.
0:14:57 > 0:15:01That's really disappointing because I was hoping you'd tell me,
0:15:01 > 0:15:03because nobody really knows.
0:15:03 > 0:15:10This one marked "Tower GR",
0:15:10 > 0:15:12which is the military stamp.
0:15:12 > 0:15:16We've got something interesting on the stock.
0:15:16 > 0:15:21Now, that's R Cracroft. Now, that's quite unusual
0:15:21 > 0:15:25on a military weapon, because if Private Cracroft
0:15:25 > 0:15:29had carved this into his stock,
0:15:29 > 0:15:34Private Cracroft would still be doing guard duty in 2011.
0:15:34 > 0:15:36So I think this is a militia one.
0:15:36 > 0:15:38Wow! That's amazing.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41Of course, the most iconic battle this was fought with was Waterloo.
0:15:41 > 0:15:45- Do you think it would be in Waterloo? - This one unfortunately wouldn't have been.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49This is a militia one, but exact similar weapons,
0:15:49 > 0:15:52that's what the army were issued with, and that was Waterloo.
0:15:52 > 0:15:56It throws about a three-quarter-inch lead ball,
0:15:56 > 0:16:00which you really don't want to collect on the other end of it.
0:16:00 > 0:16:04Flintlock, as we can see here, operates like that.
0:16:05 > 0:16:09Full cock - we don't fire it because we tend to break the cock -
0:16:09 > 0:16:13if we did, this comes forward, strikes a spark,
0:16:13 > 0:16:18ignites the powder in the pan, burns through into the touch hole.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21Everything loads from the muzzle end.
0:16:21 > 0:16:24A good man can get three shots off in a minute with one of these.
0:16:24 > 0:16:27The Brown Bess served for a long time,
0:16:27 > 0:16:29but this one is probably about 1800.
0:16:29 > 0:16:32Where did you obtain it from?
0:16:32 > 0:16:36It's always been on the mantel in my house - my mum's house.
0:16:36 > 0:16:40My mum thinks that she - her father got it in a flea market
0:16:40 > 0:16:43in Nottinghamshire in the 1950s somewhere.
0:16:43 > 0:16:47Excellent buy. I'm glad it's on display - they should be.
0:16:47 > 0:16:49Markings are all crisp.
0:16:49 > 0:16:53I would think if you had to go and buy it now,
0:16:53 > 0:16:55you wouldn't get it at your flea market.
0:16:55 > 0:16:58You'd have to get it at a reasonably good dealer
0:16:58 > 0:17:01- and that's going to cost you £1,000.- Gosh!
0:17:01 > 0:17:04It's very nice and I hope it goes back on the mantelpiece.
0:17:04 > 0:17:08It belongs to my one-year-old son, so it's his heirloom.
0:17:08 > 0:17:09What a very lucky little lad.
0:17:09 > 0:17:13I wish somebody had given me a Brown Bess when I was one.
0:17:13 > 0:17:16- Thanks for bringing it in, it's great.- Thank you very much.
0:17:20 > 0:17:23It doesn't look like your most prized possession.
0:17:23 > 0:17:27- Unfortunately not.- It hasn't had a lot of care and attention.
0:17:27 > 0:17:29No, it's been in the garage for the past 20 years.
0:17:29 > 0:17:32Do you know where it comes from? Any ideas at all?
0:17:32 > 0:17:35Not really. I knew it used to belong to my grandparents
0:17:35 > 0:17:38and that's all the history I know actually.
0:17:38 > 0:17:40Well, I'm pleased to tell you
0:17:40 > 0:17:43- that it's a Welsh chair.- Oh right. - No, I correct myself.
0:17:43 > 0:17:45- It's half a Welsh chair. - Half a Welsh chair?
0:17:45 > 0:17:49Because somebody - your grandfather, your great grandfather,
0:17:49 > 0:17:52yourself as a child - has cut one, two, three, four, five,
0:17:52 > 0:17:54six of the six splats off.
0:17:54 > 0:17:58It would have stood up like that with a nice combed back on the top.
0:17:58 > 0:18:01- Oh right.- So you could lean back and relax.- Oh.
0:18:01 > 0:18:05That's gone. So you might have devalued it a bit, I think.
0:18:05 > 0:18:09- It wasn't you?- Not me, no.- Promise? - Promise.- OK, right.
0:18:09 > 0:18:12I just want to point out one thing, You can see the way this is made,
0:18:12 > 0:18:14this wonderful "C" shape,
0:18:14 > 0:18:17- it is actually in three pieces, that's typical of Wales.- Oh right.
0:18:17 > 0:18:21There's something fascinating, and I have to get this over,
0:18:21 > 0:18:24- because it is only half a chair and it's filthy dirty.- Yes.
0:18:24 > 0:18:27You see how high the arms are? Yes.
0:18:27 > 0:18:29That is typical of the Celtic tradition.
0:18:29 > 0:18:33- Oh, right.- Scotland, Wales and even the West Country, Cornwall.
0:18:33 > 0:18:35- All the Celtic-speaking areas. - Right.
0:18:35 > 0:18:39Had these... Seemed to have these high arm chairs.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41Now, if you imagine you're sitting
0:18:41 > 0:18:44in an old, dusty little cottage by the fire,
0:18:44 > 0:18:47why do you need the arms high?
0:18:47 > 0:18:49Probably to keep them out of the soot.
0:18:49 > 0:18:54Well you're reading your Bible, or your book, or you're eating
0:18:54 > 0:18:56and you've got very little light at night,
0:18:56 > 0:18:59and that helps you see what you're doing or reading.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02- Oh, right, oh. - So I'm sure that's why.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05I could actually talk for a long time about this,
0:19:05 > 0:19:08but I won't because I think it's fascinating.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11- But what I'd like to do is have your permission to do something. - Go on.
0:19:11 > 0:19:14- It's not worth a lot like this, but can I polish? - Yes, yes, please do.
0:19:14 > 0:19:18- Because I just happen to have some with me.- Oh.
0:19:19 > 0:19:22Whoops. So here we go.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29You realise you're going to have to finish this now?
0:19:32 > 0:19:35In July 1981, like millions of others, I was watching
0:19:35 > 0:19:40the Royal Wedding of Charles and Diana on television.
0:19:40 > 0:19:42But you have a very different experience.
0:19:42 > 0:19:44Clearly you were part of it.
0:19:44 > 0:19:47I missed the wedding because we were in Gibraltar
0:19:47 > 0:19:50waiting for them to arrive on board the Royal Yacht
0:19:50 > 0:19:53and take them on their honeymoon. When they arrived on board,
0:19:53 > 0:19:56we didn't know where we were going to go on honeymoon.
0:19:56 > 0:19:59As soon as Prince Charles said left or right
0:19:59 > 0:20:02coming out of Gibraltar, that's when we knew where we were going.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05So you were serving on board the Royal Yacht Britannia?
0:20:05 > 0:20:06I was.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10And here you are with Charles and Diana,
0:20:10 > 0:20:12their honeymoon. It was actually
0:20:12 > 0:20:16a very private affair in many ways, where they could escape almost.
0:20:16 > 0:20:19Well, that's what the yacht was about.
0:20:19 > 0:20:21It gave the Royal Family some privacy.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24They could get away
0:20:24 > 0:20:27from the media and paparazzi
0:20:27 > 0:20:30and they could relax. It was nice to see them
0:20:30 > 0:20:33on board in normal clothing like ourselves, you know.
0:20:33 > 0:20:36Just a sloppy jumper and a pair of jeans.
0:20:36 > 0:20:39I mean, relaxed is clearly what comes across
0:20:39 > 0:20:42in this incredible collection of photographs.
0:20:42 > 0:20:44You were responsible for what on board?
0:20:44 > 0:20:48I was, as they used to call in the navy, the club swinger,
0:20:48 > 0:20:52I was a PTI, the physical training instructor.
0:20:52 > 0:20:55So I was basically keeping everybody fit.
0:20:55 > 0:20:58I arranged all the sports and activities,
0:20:58 > 0:21:01some of the entertainment and a little bit of security.
0:21:01 > 0:21:03I can see a head of Diana
0:21:03 > 0:21:07and a head of Charles watching a show over here.
0:21:07 > 0:21:11- Are you in that?- Yeah, I'm the Scotsman with the braces on
0:21:11 > 0:21:14It was a tug of war scene.
0:21:14 > 0:21:18There's a wonderful photograph here. I think you're serving drinks.
0:21:18 > 0:21:20Yes, I had the honour, yes.
0:21:20 > 0:21:22And Diana's clearly sort of...
0:21:22 > 0:21:26You're asking her what she wants to drink. What did she drink?
0:21:26 > 0:21:28Well, actually she had a shandy.
0:21:28 > 0:21:30A great '80s girl!
0:21:30 > 0:21:33Yes, she was, and Charles had his boring orange.
0:21:36 > 0:21:39- But he wasn't boring on board? - No, no. Far from it,
0:21:39 > 0:21:43He was always involved in activities. He was a bit of a sportsman.
0:21:43 > 0:21:45We used to call him "Crazy Horse"
0:21:45 > 0:21:48because he was like a bull in a china shop.
0:21:48 > 0:21:51If he was playing hockey, you got out the way.
0:21:51 > 0:21:53Oh. And they went swimming?
0:21:53 > 0:21:55Yes. We stopped in the Med.
0:21:55 > 0:21:58Ourselves and the Royal party all plunged in,
0:21:58 > 0:22:01enjoyed ourselves in the Mediterranean,
0:22:01 > 0:22:04and she was also one of those in the water.
0:22:04 > 0:22:06You didn't take these photographs,
0:22:06 > 0:22:09but they're obviously very personal, intimate photographs.
0:22:09 > 0:22:12How did you get them?
0:22:12 > 0:22:14The Royal Yacht has its own photographer
0:22:14 > 0:22:17and he takes all photographs
0:22:17 > 0:22:20of any events, you know, on board
0:22:20 > 0:22:24- and then you're allowed to purchase some of them. - Right.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27I think it's a very personal touching series of images
0:22:27 > 0:22:30which comes across here and the idea of seeing them
0:22:30 > 0:22:34in a very natural way, puts a different perspective
0:22:34 > 0:22:37on the way we look back at that marriage now.
0:22:37 > 0:22:39- Sure, yeah. - In terms of value,
0:22:39 > 0:22:42perhaps as a collection they would be worth
0:22:42 > 0:22:44£700 or £800 as an album.
0:22:44 > 0:22:48But I didn't get them to sell them anyway,
0:22:48 > 0:22:50so we'll be keeping them.
0:22:50 > 0:22:53You got them to have the best honeymoon ever.
0:22:53 > 0:22:54Well, we did indeed.
0:22:58 > 0:23:02See how well this is coming up. This lovely red paint underneath.
0:23:02 > 0:23:04I can't resist having a go at these little rings,
0:23:04 > 0:23:07which are simulated to bamboo. This helps me date it,
0:23:07 > 0:23:10but it's not bamboo. It's difficult to tell,
0:23:10 > 0:23:12- but almost certainly the seat will be elm.- Right.
0:23:12 > 0:23:15And underneath the arms I suspect it's oak,
0:23:15 > 0:23:17which would be more typical of a Welsh chair.
0:23:17 > 0:23:21But it's been made by quite a sophisticated person. He's a man who's access to a lathe
0:23:21 > 0:23:24to turn these spindles
0:23:24 > 0:23:26and these front ones with the bamboo and legs.
0:23:26 > 0:23:28He's a farmer, a cabinet maker,
0:23:28 > 0:23:31he might have been the local coffin maker,
0:23:31 > 0:23:34making for somebody within probably very near to Aberystwyth.
0:23:34 > 0:23:36We just don't know, we don't know who it was.
0:23:36 > 0:23:38When was he making this?
0:23:38 > 0:23:42- I would have thought the end of the 18th century?- Really? Wow!
0:23:42 > 0:23:46Slightly older than I thought.
0:23:46 > 0:23:50So your chair, your half chair from Aberystwyth, is 1780,
0:23:50 > 0:23:54something like that. 230 0r 240 years old.
0:23:54 > 0:23:56What's it worth?
0:23:56 > 0:23:59That is the question.
0:23:59 > 0:24:04Very little, I'm afraid. I'd probably pay you £200 for it anyway.
0:24:04 > 0:24:09Oh right, it's interesting knowing the age and the value.
0:24:09 > 0:24:11If you'd clean it up. Finish the job.
0:24:22 > 0:24:26One of the exciting things about a Roadshow is when an object is brought along
0:24:26 > 0:24:30and it looks pretty ordinary, similar to countless others we see every week,
0:24:30 > 0:24:34but there's something special about it that sets it apart
0:24:34 > 0:24:36and makes it significant and valuable.
0:24:36 > 0:24:38The thing is, how do you tell?
0:24:38 > 0:24:41As you know, in this series our experts are setting us
0:24:41 > 0:24:44a bit of a challenge - basic, better, best.
0:24:44 > 0:24:48This week is the turn of our arms and militaria expert, Graham Lay.
0:24:48 > 0:24:53So we have here a set of medals. One is a basic set worth about £80,
0:24:53 > 0:24:56the other is a rather better set worth £500 to £600
0:24:56 > 0:25:01and then there's the best, worth £4,000 to £5,000.
0:25:01 > 0:25:03I have to say, medals are not my speciality
0:25:03 > 0:25:06but Graham is going to reveal all later on.
0:25:06 > 0:25:10First it's time for our visitors and you to see if you can work out which is which.
0:25:12 > 0:25:15- Have you any idea what you're looking for?- No.
0:25:15 > 0:25:19This is a trick question. The smallest one will be most valuable.
0:25:19 > 0:25:22- Mm...- What about the age?
0:25:22 > 0:25:25What do you think? Basic, better, best.
0:25:25 > 0:25:29Here would be basic that one would be better, that would be the best.
0:25:29 > 0:25:34- Maybe, mm...- That one and that one look very similar, don't they?
0:25:34 > 0:25:36OK, I'm going say better and best.
0:25:36 > 0:25:40Crosses there, and crosses generally say more important.
0:25:40 > 0:25:42- Um...- Tricky.
0:25:42 > 0:25:45- That could be the best.- Why do you think that?- There's two crosses.
0:25:45 > 0:25:47Er...
0:25:47 > 0:25:49These ones are the most important ones.
0:25:49 > 0:25:51Basic, better, best.
0:25:51 > 0:25:53Hold on, switch those around.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55Basic, better, best.
0:25:55 > 0:25:58- Sure?- Sure as I can be.
0:26:06 > 0:26:09Now this is a striking bit of human anatomy.
0:26:09 > 0:26:11How did it come into your life?
0:26:11 > 0:26:14Well, it's quite a story.
0:26:14 > 0:26:16I visited an old friend of mine
0:26:16 > 0:26:19that does house clearances
0:26:19 > 0:26:22and from time to time he gets a painting,
0:26:22 > 0:26:26he gets in touch with me and he says, "Are you interested in buying?"
0:26:26 > 0:26:29And this is my hobby, so he brings it down to me
0:26:29 > 0:26:33and it was in a terrible state. I saw the ticket on the back,
0:26:33 > 0:26:37Francis Bacon and recognised the signature and we did a deal.
0:26:37 > 0:26:40I gave him a few hundred pounds
0:26:40 > 0:26:45and when I had a look at it, I thought, well you know, this isn't for me really,
0:26:45 > 0:26:46but the name is.
0:26:46 > 0:26:50Of course the central question is "Is this by Francis Bacon?"
0:26:50 > 0:26:53Francis Bacon, the major towering figure in British art
0:26:53 > 0:26:56in the last 20-30 years, died fairly recently.
0:26:56 > 0:27:00If it's by him, of course, it's a picture of extreme value,
0:27:00 > 0:27:03art historical importance, worth many millions of pounds,
0:27:03 > 0:27:06so it's really worth getting this one right.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08From the front,
0:27:08 > 0:27:11well it's the sort of composition we normally associate
0:27:11 > 0:27:16with Francis Bacon, in as much that you've got that rather sort of bruised and angry flesh,
0:27:16 > 0:27:20almost like a corpse, and you've got that bleary out-of-focus face,
0:27:20 > 0:27:23all the sort of stuff that you associate with Francis Bacon.
0:27:23 > 0:27:27But I think before we go any further on the front,
0:27:27 > 0:27:30as we're trying to establish if this is the real thing or not,
0:27:30 > 0:27:33- Let's have a look at the back, shall we?- Yes.
0:27:47 > 0:27:50OK, now it's always been my view,
0:27:50 > 0:27:53that whenever you're looking at a picture that could potentially
0:27:53 > 0:27:58be a great treasure or, indeed, a fake, that the back of it
0:27:58 > 0:28:00will tell you more than the front.
0:28:00 > 0:28:05The title of the picture it seems, Ophelia, with a sort of inscription
0:28:05 > 0:28:08we find from time to time on 20th century pictures and earlier,
0:28:08 > 0:28:10"A gift to my sister."
0:28:10 > 0:28:13Now this gets more interesting, we have a label
0:28:13 > 0:28:16at the top here that says "Francis Bacon B29".
0:28:16 > 0:28:19Now I have to say the writing looks quite modern,
0:28:19 > 0:28:22but what do you think the B29 refers to?
0:28:22 > 0:28:24Well, I was thinking
0:28:24 > 0:28:28perhaps it's the Hanover Gallery Exhibition number of 1952.
0:28:28 > 0:28:32Well, you've really done your homework,
0:28:32 > 0:28:34because the Hanover Gallery was the first gallery
0:28:34 > 0:28:36to discover Francis Bacon,
0:28:36 > 0:28:39and if it a label from that exhibition,
0:28:39 > 0:28:41that is immediately exciting.
0:28:41 > 0:28:43It proves that it was at a place
0:28:43 > 0:28:47and at a time which is extremely significant
0:28:47 > 0:28:50in the life of Francis Bacon. You could say we're warming up.
0:28:50 > 0:28:53But then, does that look really old?
0:28:53 > 0:28:57Or does it look like a photocopy of a label?
0:28:57 > 0:29:01And is this B29? Is the paper just a little bit fresh?
0:29:01 > 0:29:04I'm not sure. But let's just ask those questions.
0:29:04 > 0:29:06What do you feel?
0:29:06 > 0:29:10I think it's an old label and the reason I think that is because
0:29:10 > 0:29:14it's bowed slightly with the damp,
0:29:14 > 0:29:17within an attic for years and years
0:29:17 > 0:29:21and the ink is coming off in places
0:29:21 > 0:29:23where it would do, with damp.
0:29:23 > 0:29:29But the signature looks to me to be genuine because it's spontaneous.
0:29:29 > 0:29:31Well, someone...
0:29:31 > 0:29:33And I'm going to just go back to the front.
0:29:33 > 0:29:37Someone has gone to inordinate trouble to get it right.
0:29:37 > 0:29:42And they haven't just tried to paint a picture
0:29:42 > 0:29:45that Francis Bacon might have done.
0:29:45 > 0:29:49And it looks fairly plausible. I have to say
0:29:49 > 0:29:51I don't think I'd be taken in
0:29:51 > 0:29:54and I don't think a lot of 20th century scholars, or dealers,
0:29:54 > 0:29:57or auctioneers would be taken in.
0:29:57 > 0:30:00But the combination of that and the back
0:30:00 > 0:30:03has meant that someone out there...
0:30:03 > 0:30:05Someone around us, who knows?
0:30:05 > 0:30:09- Yes.- Has actually decided to create not just a fake,
0:30:09 > 0:30:10but a fake history,
0:30:10 > 0:30:14a fake exhibition history, a fake owner probably,
0:30:14 > 0:30:17- and has done it quite well. - Yes.
0:30:17 > 0:30:20And don't worry, you are not alone.
0:30:20 > 0:30:22I have to say,
0:30:22 > 0:30:25I've even been taken in myself.
0:30:25 > 0:30:29- Yes. - So join the crowd.
0:30:29 > 0:30:32Yes. It's all part of learning, isn't it?
0:30:35 > 0:30:39Forgive me for saying, but that's an extremely striking design, it really is.
0:30:39 > 0:30:43Beautiful, isn't it? I have a brooch in here for you to have a look at.
0:30:43 > 0:30:47- Let's have a look.- Wondering if you could tell me anything about it. - Oh, yes.
0:30:47 > 0:30:51I like the contrast between the studded skull
0:30:51 > 0:30:54and the rather sweet demure little chick here. Would you not agree?
0:30:54 > 0:30:55I would, yes.
0:30:55 > 0:30:59- A good contrast.- I thought they'd go well together.- They're seamless.
0:30:59 > 0:31:02- What's the story behind it? - Well, it was my great aunt's
0:31:02 > 0:31:05and she gave it to my mother
0:31:05 > 0:31:07and she said it was chipped diamond,
0:31:07 > 0:31:11- and that's about all we know about it.- Well, they are chipped diamonds.
0:31:11 > 0:31:14In fact, it's what we call rose diamonds.
0:31:14 > 0:31:17So rose-cut diamonds were typically used
0:31:17 > 0:31:19in little novelty brooches like this.
0:31:19 > 0:31:22Would you not agree it is novelty through and through?
0:31:22 > 0:31:23Definitely, yes.
0:31:23 > 0:31:26These were popular in around about 1900
0:31:26 > 0:31:28and you'd have little farmyard chicks
0:31:28 > 0:31:31and little cats and dogs and whatever it may be.
0:31:31 > 0:31:34But what makes this rather sweet is that the chick
0:31:34 > 0:31:38is very nicely modelled and there's the egg and the shell.
0:31:38 > 0:31:42It's broken, the top of it's off and there's the chick. Isn't it sweet?
0:31:42 > 0:31:45- I've always loved it.- Very sweet. - Very different.
0:31:45 > 0:31:49High carat gold, diamonds. Now the only thing,
0:31:49 > 0:31:52looking through my lens, that I suppose I ought to point out
0:31:52 > 0:31:55is that originally I think there might have been a little ruby
0:31:55 > 0:31:57- or a sapphire in the eye. - Right.
0:31:57 > 0:31:59- And that's dropped out. - Yes.
0:31:59 > 0:32:03But it wouldn't cost a fortune, in my opinion to get it replaced,
0:32:03 > 0:32:06so my advice would be to go to a competent jeweller,
0:32:06 > 0:32:09- put a little stone in, just give it that bit of colour contrast.- Yes.
0:32:09 > 0:32:11- Worth doing, it really is. - Definitely.
0:32:11 > 0:32:13Wear it?
0:32:13 > 0:32:17I don't. My mother used to and it will be handed down to me and then I will wear it.
0:32:17 > 0:32:21OK, OK. Value. Well, substantial?
0:32:21 > 0:32:22What do you think?
0:32:22 > 0:32:24About £100, I thought?
0:32:24 > 0:32:28No, don't think so. Very popular,
0:32:28 > 0:32:30Wearable novelty.
0:32:30 > 0:32:33- £750.- Oh, wow! - Yeah, I think so.
0:32:33 > 0:32:36Mum will be thrilled.
0:32:39 > 0:32:41The joy of working on the Roadshow is when someone
0:32:41 > 0:32:44brings an object that you've never seen before.
0:32:44 > 0:32:46This is one of those objects. When I looked at it,
0:32:46 > 0:32:49I thought, "What is it?" It soon becomes apparent.
0:32:49 > 0:32:52It's a coin sorting device. A sovereign weighing machine.
0:32:52 > 0:32:55We'll go into the intricacies of it in a just a moment,
0:32:55 > 0:32:59but I want you to tell me how you come to have such a unique-looking object.
0:32:59 > 0:33:03Well, my father used to work in the Bank of England in London
0:33:03 > 0:33:06and every now and again, he seemed to bring home things
0:33:06 > 0:33:10that they were presumably getting rid of and this was one of the things.
0:33:10 > 0:33:16And my brother and sisters had sort of nice copper brass scales, you know, and I got this.
0:33:16 > 0:33:19That's interesting in itself, because what you've told me
0:33:19 > 0:33:21is that this was an obsolete item.
0:33:21 > 0:33:25And when did it become obsolete, when did he bring it home?
0:33:25 > 0:33:28Late '60s, '70s sometime. Can't remember exactly.
0:33:28 > 0:33:30That kind of makes sense.
0:33:30 > 0:33:33Certainly what is very obvious about it is the maker's plaque
0:33:33 > 0:33:36on the front here. We can see it says, "D. Napier & Sons,
0:33:36 > 0:33:39"Engineers, Lambeth, London" and it was started,
0:33:39 > 0:33:43I think around about 1820, the company,
0:33:43 > 0:33:45and they specialised in making machines
0:33:45 > 0:33:49for manufacturing armaments, things like the Woolwich Arsenal.
0:33:49 > 0:33:53Very precision coin sorting,
0:33:53 > 0:33:56stamp minting
0:33:56 > 0:33:58and banknote production machines.
0:33:58 > 0:34:03This is the category that this falls into.
0:34:03 > 0:34:07Now, this has got an electro-magnet in it, which I think puts it
0:34:07 > 0:34:12into the mid-1870s. What it does is it allows you to weigh sovereigns
0:34:12 > 0:34:14and half sovereigns, and the reason for that
0:34:14 > 0:34:18is that some of them didn't quite come up to the right weight,
0:34:18 > 0:34:22because they may have been clipped perhaps, or shaved.
0:34:22 > 0:34:26This machine determines whether they weigh the right amount,
0:34:26 > 0:34:29and that electro-magnet, if they don't weight the right amount,
0:34:29 > 0:34:31then shoots them off into the reject tray.
0:34:31 > 0:34:34- Right. - So we've put 1ps in it
0:34:34 > 0:34:37because they're very close to the half sovereign size.
0:34:37 > 0:34:42So if we send it this way, it's going to pick up
0:34:42 > 0:34:45all of the one pences. Here it comes,
0:34:45 > 0:34:47it's being automatically weighed.
0:34:47 > 0:34:50At this point, it's being weighed,
0:34:50 > 0:34:55There it goes. It's picked up again, off the scale, at which point
0:34:55 > 0:34:59the scale and the electro-magnet determine if it's the right weight
0:34:59 > 0:35:01and it's going to go one way or the other.
0:35:01 > 0:35:02As it's a one pence,
0:35:02 > 0:35:06- let's say that it didn't weigh the right amount.- No.
0:35:06 > 0:35:08- It's come out of the reject. - Yes.
0:35:08 > 0:35:12It does a very simple job. But look at it,
0:35:12 > 0:35:14- it's a masterpiece, isn't it? - Yes.
0:35:14 > 0:35:17- I think this was made for the Royal Mint.- Well, that's possible.
0:35:17 > 0:35:20My father did do some work for the Royal Mint.
0:35:20 > 0:35:24He sort of got seconded to the Royal Mint or something.
0:35:24 > 0:35:27Let's think about trying to put a price on this. It's a difficult one.
0:35:27 > 0:35:31You brought in at the same time what I call a standard sovereign balance.
0:35:31 > 0:35:33This is the kind of thing that anyone
0:35:33 > 0:35:37would have taken around in their pocket to weigh sovereigns
0:35:37 > 0:35:41and half sovereigns, to see again whether they were clipped or not.
0:35:41 > 0:35:44- Here's the Rolls Royce of sovereign balances.- Yes.
0:35:44 > 0:35:47What have we got here? £29 or £30 worth.
0:35:47 > 0:35:51What have we got here? I think £700 to £1,000 worth.
0:35:51 > 0:35:54Mm, gosh!
0:35:54 > 0:35:57Didn't realise that at all. I just brought it along.
0:35:57 > 0:35:59I just find it interesting, you know.
0:35:59 > 0:36:03That's what it is. It's a fabulous and interesting piece of machinery
0:36:03 > 0:36:06and a scarce piece of machinery.
0:36:09 > 0:36:12- I saw your lions this morning. - Yes.
0:36:12 > 0:36:15Then I went for my lunch, and half way through my lunch I was interrupted
0:36:15 > 0:36:17because your lions arrived.
0:36:17 > 0:36:19Did they breed lions in Wales?
0:36:19 > 0:36:21Well, mine decided to go walkies today
0:36:21 > 0:36:25so they walked 15 miles down here and I don't think
0:36:25 > 0:36:29- they've been away from home for the last hundred years. - This is their first time out?
0:36:29 > 0:36:32- That's correct. - And what about your lions? - Oh about the same, yes.
0:36:32 > 0:36:36So bred in Wales, but were they born in Wales? That's the question.
0:36:36 > 0:36:38- I think mine are English. - What about yours?
0:36:38 > 0:36:43Well, I'd like to think they're Celtic lions.
0:36:43 > 0:36:46Well... Mm... well I think you are absolutely right about yours.
0:36:46 > 0:36:49They are English lions.
0:36:49 > 0:36:52Difficult to say where they were made. Could have been any
0:36:52 > 0:36:55of the country potteries, probably in Staffordshire.
0:36:55 > 0:36:57They'd have lovely, curly tails
0:36:57 > 0:36:59which have gone missing. Someone's tried to pull them
0:36:59 > 0:37:03or grab them by the tail. Dangerous thing to do with a lion!
0:37:03 > 0:37:06They've broken off, but they're still rather magnificent.
0:37:06 > 0:37:11Yours are interesting and magnificent in a different way,
0:37:11 > 0:37:14- and they are Welsh.- Good God.
0:37:14 > 0:37:17- But that's only happened very recently.- Yes?
0:37:17 > 0:37:21Had you asked me a year ago, I would have told you these were made
0:37:21 > 0:37:25by the Pill Pottery on the River Avon near Bristol,
0:37:25 > 0:37:30but somebody's researched them and it's not Pill on the Avon,
0:37:30 > 0:37:33- it's actually Pill, which is a suburb of Newport.- Yes.
0:37:33 > 0:37:37Now I've been trying to study the name of it,
0:37:37 > 0:37:39but I'm going to ask you to read it,
0:37:39 > 0:37:41because I can't pronounce Welsh at all.
0:37:41 > 0:37:44In English it would be Pillgwenelly,
0:37:44 > 0:37:46but how would you pronounce that in Welsh?
0:37:46 > 0:37:50- Well, Pillgwenlly.- Yeah. Pillgwenlly.
0:37:50 > 0:37:51THEY SPEAK WELSH
0:37:51 > 0:37:53So that's where the Pill comes from,
0:37:53 > 0:37:56so these are the Pill Pottery from Newport in Wales.
0:37:56 > 0:37:58So yours are Welsh, yours are English.
0:37:58 > 0:38:01They're both mid-19th century.
0:38:01 > 0:38:04These are probably 1830-1840.
0:38:04 > 0:38:06These perhaps slightly later.
0:38:06 > 0:38:09And they're both worth a similar amount of money
0:38:09 > 0:38:10for different reasons.
0:38:10 > 0:38:13Our more elegant English lions, they're decorative,
0:38:13 > 0:38:16somebody who collected oak or country furniture
0:38:16 > 0:38:18would have them prized on a table.
0:38:18 > 0:38:20- And these, really...- More peasant?
0:38:20 > 0:38:22Cottage, cottage lions shall we say?
0:38:22 > 0:38:24But you know, just as interesting.
0:38:24 > 0:38:26The value is because they're Welsh.
0:38:26 > 0:38:31Welsh people are very proud people, they want to collect Welsh things.
0:38:31 > 0:38:34They're both worth £1,200.
0:38:34 > 0:38:36Heavens! You serious?
0:38:36 > 0:38:40Absolutely serious. I bet you're glad you let them out today.
0:38:40 > 0:38:43So it's the Welshness that counts?
0:38:43 > 0:38:45It's the Welshness that counts.
0:38:51 > 0:38:54Graham, it was interesting talking about these -
0:38:54 > 0:38:55they excite a lot of interest
0:38:55 > 0:38:58and it seems invidious to talk about a value for these things,
0:38:58 > 0:39:00when just the fact that you've fought in a war
0:39:00 > 0:39:03and gained a medal should be enough.
0:39:03 > 0:39:06None of us really were quite sure what we were looking for.
0:39:06 > 0:39:10Well, you know, medals are a testament
0:39:10 > 0:39:12to the heroism of the recipients
0:39:12 > 0:39:14and I always feel uncomfortable
0:39:14 > 0:39:16about talking about values of medals,
0:39:16 > 0:39:18but people are interested in them.
0:39:18 > 0:39:20During the First and Second World Wars,
0:39:20 > 0:39:23millions and millions of people served their country
0:39:23 > 0:39:27and almost everybody was entitled to a medal.
0:39:27 > 0:39:31During the First World War, for example, the British War Medal,
0:39:31 > 0:39:32this silver medal -
0:39:32 > 0:39:356.5 million of these issued during the First World War,
0:39:35 > 0:39:37so they were issued in huge numbers.
0:39:37 > 0:39:40And the great thing about First World War medals
0:39:40 > 0:39:42is that they were always named.
0:39:42 > 0:39:46Gosh, so every single one of those millions were individually...?
0:39:46 > 0:39:49Yes. There are lots of websites out there
0:39:49 > 0:39:53that can point you in the right direction for doing the research.
0:39:53 > 0:39:57So campaign medals, therefore, I assume are not that valuable.
0:39:57 > 0:39:59Well, they are.
0:39:59 > 0:40:02They can be, depending on what the campaigns were
0:40:02 > 0:40:05and depending on what the recipient did.
0:40:05 > 0:40:09And that's when we come to the Basic, Better, Best point of view.
0:40:09 > 0:40:12Right. Well, I'll tell you what I suggested.
0:40:12 > 0:40:14I was thinking, "Campaign medals,
0:40:14 > 0:40:18"everyone will have got one, so presumably not that valuable,"
0:40:18 > 0:40:19so I put Basic here.
0:40:19 > 0:40:22I didn't know what to make of these.
0:40:22 > 0:40:26I looked at these and interestingly, cos I read out on the news,
0:40:26 > 0:40:29- time and again, about in Afghanistan or Iraq.- Yes.
0:40:29 > 0:40:32And maybe about someone who's winning a Victoria Cross
0:40:32 > 0:40:35or a medal for bravery, and so I looked at these and thought...
0:40:35 > 0:40:37I realised I'd never seen one,
0:40:37 > 0:40:41but I'm assuming one of these must be a cross for valour, for bravery,
0:40:41 > 0:40:43and therefore I've put these in the Best category.
0:40:43 > 0:40:46Well, you're absolutely right.
0:40:46 > 0:40:49Well, good, cos it doesn't happen very often!
0:40:49 > 0:40:52But looking at these - let's look at them first.
0:40:52 > 0:40:56This is the Basic group of three First World War medals.
0:40:56 > 0:40:59These are worth somewhere in the region of £60 to £80.
0:41:01 > 0:41:03Better is this group.
0:41:03 > 0:41:08Now, this is also a group that shows heroism of some sort
0:41:08 > 0:41:10because he's got the Military Medal
0:41:10 > 0:41:13and also this means "mentioned in dispatches".
0:41:13 > 0:41:15- This...?- This oak leaf,
0:41:15 > 0:41:17so he must have performed many acts of bravery.
0:41:17 > 0:41:20But also he served in the Second World War,
0:41:20 > 0:41:22because this is the Defence Medal,
0:41:22 > 0:41:24so he would have probably been too old
0:41:24 > 0:41:26to serve in the Second World War,
0:41:26 > 0:41:29so he took part in some way, perhaps he was a Special Constable.
0:41:29 > 0:41:34And that's going to be worth somewhere in the region of £800.
0:41:36 > 0:41:37Best...
0:41:37 > 0:41:40- you're right.- I had a vague idea, I thought, "They're crosses."- Yes.
0:41:40 > 0:41:44- But go on, cos I didn't really know. - Well, this is the important medal.
0:41:44 > 0:41:49This is the Military Cross, but it's even more important than that,
0:41:49 > 0:41:51because do you see this bar here?
0:41:51 > 0:41:53It means he was awarded it twice.
0:41:53 > 0:41:57so not only did he perform some act of gallantry
0:41:57 > 0:41:59to be awarded the Military Cross,
0:41:59 > 0:42:02but he performed ANOTHER act of heroism,
0:42:02 > 0:42:04- and so he was put up for it again. - Gosh.
0:42:04 > 0:42:06You can't be awarded the same medal twice, of course,
0:42:06 > 0:42:09so he was awarded the bar to go with it.
0:42:09 > 0:42:12I think we should name him, if he was that courageous.
0:42:12 > 0:42:15"Captain John Williams, 15th Battalion Welsh Regiment."
0:42:15 > 0:42:16A very brave man.
0:42:16 > 0:42:22And I happen to know that he was mainly responsible
0:42:22 > 0:42:24for the capture of Thiepval Ridge
0:42:24 > 0:42:29and Pozieres village in 1918, during the First World War,
0:42:29 > 0:42:34and the capture of many German guns and over 1,000 prisoners.
0:42:34 > 0:42:37And you found this out by researching his background?
0:42:37 > 0:42:40- He was a very, very brave and courageous man.- Goodness me.
0:42:40 > 0:42:44And this group is going to be worth somewhere in the region of...
0:42:44 > 0:42:47£4,000 or £5,000.
0:42:47 > 0:42:49Gosh. Well, as I say,
0:42:49 > 0:42:53it does seem slightly invidious, really, talking about the value,
0:42:53 > 0:42:55when clearly to have fought with medals like this,
0:42:55 > 0:42:58you have shown bravery by being on the field.
0:42:58 > 0:43:01I hope it's given you some insight, if you have medals at home,
0:43:01 > 0:43:05of relatives, now you have an idea of what to look for, and what value they may have,
0:43:05 > 0:43:08or if you want to bring them along to a Roadshow,
0:43:08 > 0:43:09have a look at our website...
0:43:11 > 0:43:13You can see the locations we're coming to
0:43:13 > 0:43:15and maybe you could pay us a visit.
0:43:19 > 0:43:22This is a first for me -
0:43:22 > 0:43:25an artist's lay figure.
0:43:25 > 0:43:29- Presumably?- And a horse.
0:43:29 > 0:43:34I have never ever seen an articulated horse before.
0:43:34 > 0:43:38- I must admit, nor have we, ever. - So tell me your story.
0:43:38 > 0:43:42I've known it all my life, it was at my aunt's house.
0:43:42 > 0:43:48She had it on a bench in the hallway,
0:43:48 > 0:43:50and she died intestate.
0:43:50 > 0:43:53I was asked by my other aunt to go in -
0:43:53 > 0:43:57"Take what you need, what you like,"
0:43:57 > 0:44:00and along with my husband, we took a few things
0:44:00 > 0:44:02and this was one of them,
0:44:02 > 0:44:04cos I love it, and I've been riding all my life.
0:44:04 > 0:44:06I really can't blame you.
0:44:06 > 0:44:09I think it is absolutely fantastic.
0:44:09 > 0:44:12It's got a plaque here that says,
0:44:12 > 0:44:16"J Mayer & A. Fessler, Wien".
0:44:16 > 0:44:20Vienna, so was anybody in your family an artist?
0:44:20 > 0:44:24My aunt, who owned the horse, her father was an artist.
0:44:24 > 0:44:27- Right, well, there you have it. - So... Yeah.
0:44:29 > 0:44:32I would think this dates from about the turn of the century,
0:44:32 > 0:44:38about 1900, solid walnut, a jointed lay figure,
0:44:38 > 0:44:40an articulated horse,
0:44:40 > 0:44:46to show a student of art perspective, how an arm moves.
0:44:48 > 0:44:49I just love it.
0:44:49 > 0:44:55And, I mean, even his ears move. I mean, it's just fantastic.
0:44:56 > 0:44:58It goes into two categories.
0:44:58 > 0:45:02Obviously, we've spoken about the artistic use of it,
0:45:02 > 0:45:07but these days, to me, it's a sculpture,
0:45:07 > 0:45:10and you know, it would be fantastically popular
0:45:10 > 0:45:12if it was ever to come up for sale.
0:45:13 > 0:45:18Well, I don't think, quite honestly, it will be up for sale.
0:45:18 > 0:45:20It's worth a lot of money.
0:45:20 > 0:45:24I'm going to be quite cautious in my valuation.
0:45:24 > 0:45:28For the moment, I'm going to put £2,000 on it.
0:45:31 > 0:45:32Mm!
0:45:32 > 0:45:34Oh, yes?
0:45:34 > 0:45:38Somewhat more than we thought, quite honestly.
0:45:38 > 0:45:44But I can see it, in a retail shop, with a much bigger price than that.
0:45:47 > 0:45:49Wonderful day like today, that, filled,
0:45:49 > 0:45:51would have been wonderful, wouldn't it?
0:45:51 > 0:45:55- Well, it would have been, but I didn't happen to think about it.- Ah.
0:45:55 > 0:45:56I would have done so.
0:45:56 > 0:45:58- Yeah, you do get thirsty doing this.- Yes.
0:45:58 > 0:46:01What you've brought in here is one of the finest tankards
0:46:01 > 0:46:05I've seen in a long while.
0:46:05 > 0:46:08- Is that so?- It is superb.- Yes.
0:46:08 > 0:46:10There are so many wonderful features to it.
0:46:10 > 0:46:14If you look for, example, at the thumb piece,
0:46:14 > 0:46:20just that simple scroll and the chunkiness of it -
0:46:20 > 0:46:22brilliant!
0:46:22 > 0:46:24It's not the standard thumb piece.
0:46:24 > 0:46:27The way the hinge is arranged is pretty standard
0:46:27 > 0:46:32but the way the handle is designed - wonderful.
0:46:32 > 0:46:34That extra little kick at the bottom,
0:46:34 > 0:46:37not just a straight forward "S", but the scroll there
0:46:37 > 0:46:40and then another scroll starting up
0:46:40 > 0:46:43and this lovely faceting on the handle.
0:46:44 > 0:46:47- It all shrieks quality.- Goodness me.
0:46:47 > 0:46:51Of course, when we look at the maker's mark,
0:46:51 > 0:46:56- we've got the mark of one of my favourite goldsmiths.- Really?
0:46:56 > 0:47:02So one of the greatest of all time, a certain Mr David Willaume.
0:47:02 > 0:47:07And interesting, tankards by Huguenot goldsmiths -
0:47:07 > 0:47:10of course, the recently-arrived French refugees -
0:47:10 > 0:47:14tankards are things that they rarely made.
0:47:14 > 0:47:19- Is that so?- But boy, when they made a tankard, did they make a tankard.
0:47:19 > 0:47:21Oh, I'm so pleased about that.
0:47:21 > 0:47:23Wonderful. And the engraving.
0:47:23 > 0:47:25The engraving is OK?
0:47:25 > 0:47:29Absolutely super, and that cipher is just right for the date.
0:47:30 > 0:47:33- But, of course, what is the date? - Yes.
0:47:33 > 0:47:381723 with that "H",
0:47:38 > 0:47:41and, again, a sign of the quality,
0:47:41 > 0:47:46that David Willaume has made this out of Britannia Standard Silver,
0:47:46 > 0:47:49the 958 standard rather than the 925 standard.
0:47:49 > 0:47:51So it's better than sterling silver?
0:47:51 > 0:47:54It is indeed, it's the higher standard,
0:47:54 > 0:47:57which, at the time this was made, he didn't have to use,
0:47:57 > 0:48:00but because he was so good, he did.
0:48:00 > 0:48:02My word, I'm pleased to hear that.
0:48:02 > 0:48:04Now, is it a family piece?
0:48:04 > 0:48:07No, no, no. I bought it about two years ago.
0:48:07 > 0:48:11So what did you pay for it?
0:48:11 > 0:48:14Well, so long as my wife isn't listening...
0:48:14 > 0:48:19- £2,000.- Well, I have to say, I think you did very well.
0:48:19 > 0:48:21Oh, I'm pleased to hear that!
0:48:21 > 0:48:26A tankard of this quality, by such an important maker,
0:48:26 > 0:48:29£3,000, £4,000, I think, quite easily.
0:48:29 > 0:48:33My word. Why, that's delightful to hear.
0:48:33 > 0:48:36- Thank you so much.- Thank you.
0:48:38 > 0:48:41How does a lady wearing a jacket as fantastic as that,
0:48:41 > 0:48:44come to own a piece like this?
0:48:44 > 0:48:48My father bought it for my mother about 40 years ago.
0:48:48 > 0:48:51My mother's died now, so my daughter's inherited it,
0:48:51 > 0:48:53so I brought it up for her tonight.
0:48:53 > 0:48:57So why did he buy it for her? Was she particularly attracted to birds?
0:48:57 > 0:49:00- It was the sort of thing she really liked, yes.- OK.
0:49:00 > 0:49:02I don't know where he bought it.
0:49:02 > 0:49:05It's been in the family about 30 or 40 years now, I should imagine.
0:49:05 > 0:49:08OK, you don't have any idea what he paid for it?
0:49:08 > 0:49:10- Or where he might have bought it? - No, no, I don't.
0:49:10 > 0:49:13OK. Well, actually, if you don't know that,
0:49:13 > 0:49:16you can add a little bit of revenue out of it, too.
0:49:16 > 0:49:18- And he starts moving his head and singing.- Yes, yes.
0:49:18 > 0:49:20He's a quiet one, he's quite silent.
0:49:20 > 0:49:22- It's gone quiet. - It's late in the day.
0:49:22 > 0:49:25My mum used to put the penny in and he used to make more noise.
0:49:25 > 0:49:27So he loved your mother?
0:49:27 > 0:49:29Yeah, he did love my mum, I think.
0:49:29 > 0:49:32- He was happy when she was around. - Yes, I think so. Yeah.
0:49:32 > 0:49:34He needs restoring again,
0:49:34 > 0:49:37- as I'm sure he'll love your daughter as well.- Yes.
0:49:37 > 0:49:40These are real feathers, but obviously the bird
0:49:40 > 0:49:43is covered inside, and I think he'll come up wonderfully bright.
0:49:43 > 0:49:46And quite snazzy, actually, when he's had a good bit of a clean.
0:49:46 > 0:49:48- Yeah.- And his bellows, too.
0:49:48 > 0:49:50You'll hear him, he'll sing sweetly again.
0:49:50 > 0:49:53What's interesting is that these were made
0:49:53 > 0:49:55for parlours in the 19th century
0:49:55 > 0:49:57- and they were effectively a rich person's toy.- Yes.
0:49:57 > 0:50:00They were for entertainment, you'd have them in a corner.
0:50:00 > 0:50:02- Like a cylinder music box.- Yes, yes.
0:50:02 > 0:50:06Wind it up, play a tune, and ha ha, everybody had a lovely time.
0:50:06 > 0:50:08They were made in France, often with Swiss movements.
0:50:08 > 0:50:11This was made probably in the late 19th century,
0:50:11 > 0:50:12- so probably the 1880s.- Yeah.
0:50:12 > 0:50:15- This wonderful decorative panel. - Gorgeous.
0:50:15 > 0:50:19- He's quite magnificent.- Yeah. - They're very sought-after pieces.
0:50:19 > 0:50:22- Ah! There we are, then. - He's quite large.- Yes.
0:50:22 > 0:50:24- In need of a bit of repair.- Yes.
0:50:24 > 0:50:27And I still think you're looking at around £2,000.
0:50:27 > 0:50:29Gosh, that's great.
0:50:29 > 0:50:31So make sure that when he's spick-and-span again,
0:50:31 > 0:50:34and ready to go, he takes pride of place in the living room
0:50:34 > 0:50:38- and he can sing once again with joy.- Great.
0:50:38 > 0:50:40BIRD WHISTLES FAINTLY
0:50:46 > 0:50:48Here's a picture that really does tell a story.
0:50:48 > 0:50:51I look at this, I see barrage balloons.
0:50:51 > 0:50:55The lovely old boy here with his fork and spade, holding a pipe,
0:50:55 > 0:50:58and people digging in the background.
0:50:58 > 0:51:01It's done in watercolour and it makes me think,
0:51:01 > 0:51:04Second World War and digging for victory.
0:51:04 > 0:51:05Does it have a title?
0:51:05 > 0:51:09- Yes, yes, it is called Dig For Victory, yes.- Is it?- Yes, yes.
0:51:09 > 0:51:14- And how did you get it? - My grandfather bought four paintings
0:51:14 > 0:51:17from the artist in Birmingham,
0:51:17 > 0:51:19two oil paintings, two watercolours.
0:51:19 > 0:51:26I have an oil painting as well and my brother has an oil and a watercolour.
0:51:26 > 0:51:28And it's signed down here, A C Shorthouse,
0:51:28 > 0:51:31which is Arthur Charles Shorthouse.
0:51:31 > 0:51:33I've hardly ever seen any work by him.
0:51:33 > 0:51:36- No, no, yes. - He was born in Birmingham in 1870
0:51:36 > 0:51:38and he lived up to the 1950s.
0:51:38 > 0:51:41- Ah, right.- And he exhibited a few times at the Royal Academy
0:51:41 > 0:51:43and also in Birmingham.
0:51:43 > 0:51:46- Yes.- So he was a member of the Society of Birmingham Artists,
0:51:46 > 0:51:50but I don't care that I don't really know this artist.
0:51:50 > 0:51:52- No. - Because it's such fantastic quality.
0:51:52 > 0:51:54I look at his face and I think -
0:51:54 > 0:51:57well here's a man who's probably gone through the First World War
0:51:57 > 0:51:59and is facing the Second World War,
0:51:59 > 0:52:04and you know, it's almost as though it was done for a poster.
0:52:04 > 0:52:06Because there have been posters for digging for victory.
0:52:06 > 0:52:09- Yes, of course. - Because in the Second World War
0:52:09 > 0:52:12people had to dig up their gardens and grow things because of shortage.
0:52:12 > 0:52:14- Yes, right. - But he's got such character,
0:52:14 > 0:52:18and I love the blueness in his eyes,
0:52:18 > 0:52:21with age, people go like that, and it's just - you know -
0:52:21 > 0:52:23it sort of tells a story.
0:52:23 > 0:52:26And the blues in the background are
0:52:26 > 0:52:30so well defined, but then we see flecks around here
0:52:30 > 0:52:33and are they - I wonder whether these are brushes off his...
0:52:33 > 0:52:36They look like, yes, hairs off his brushes.
0:52:36 > 0:52:39- Hairs off his paintbrushes, that's right.- Definitely, yes.
0:52:39 > 0:52:44Well, I think he's an artist that is not hugely valuable.
0:52:44 > 0:52:45No.
0:52:45 > 0:52:49- But I look at this and I think the subject matter makes it valuable. - Yes.
0:52:49 > 0:52:51And to me, if I was collecting -
0:52:51 > 0:52:57you know - Second World War pictures, I'd really want this in my collection
0:52:57 > 0:53:02and I think this would probably make - in auction - £1,000 to £1,500.
0:53:02 > 0:53:05Oh right, yes. Lovely, yes, thank you very much.
0:53:08 > 0:53:11I suppose what I expected least to see in West Wales is this
0:53:11 > 0:53:14wonderful array of Native North American beadwork.
0:53:14 > 0:53:18I am actually overcome by the sort of diversity, the richness of it.
0:53:18 > 0:53:21Tell me the background, why have you got it?
0:53:21 > 0:53:23I inherited it from my nana,
0:53:23 > 0:53:27it was my nana's Uncle Tommy who went over to British Columbia
0:53:27 > 0:53:30in the early 1900s and he went there to work - he was a missionary.
0:53:30 > 0:53:33- Right.- He went over to work in a school over there.
0:53:33 > 0:53:35- Yeah.- And she inherited it down then to her,
0:53:35 > 0:53:37and then obviously I inherited it then.
0:53:37 > 0:53:39So working as a missionary,
0:53:39 > 0:53:42- he was in contact obviously with various tribes.- Yes.
0:53:42 > 0:53:45- And so these are things he brought back.- Yes.
0:53:45 > 0:53:49- To show how it had been. - Yes, they gifted these items to him,
0:53:49 > 0:53:51and also you can see some of them have been worn as well, by him.
0:53:51 > 0:53:55Often we see things like this, but it's very rare
0:53:55 > 0:53:58- that you can actually precisely time the event.- Yeah.
0:53:58 > 0:54:00- What have you got there? - Well, what I've got here is...
0:54:00 > 0:54:03- Is that a picture?- Yeah, that's Uncle Tommy.
0:54:03 > 0:54:06So here we have this intrepid man in his fur coat.
0:54:06 > 0:54:10- Yes.- In the snow. - Over there, yes, at the time. - Do you know much about him?
0:54:10 > 0:54:14Not an awful lot, no. Unfortunately, my nana's passed away, so I don't... I obviously never met him.
0:54:14 > 0:54:19- No, no.- So I don't know an awful lot about him as a person, no. - And this is what?
0:54:19 > 0:54:22This is a letter then, the date there, August 20th.
0:54:22 > 0:54:24OK, well this is, yes, August 20th 1909,
0:54:24 > 0:54:26now this is crucial.
0:54:26 > 0:54:29- I mean obviously writing letters home.- Yeah.- I won't read it all
0:54:29 > 0:54:33- but I'm sure it's full of interesting facts.- Yes.- But the point to establish is,
0:54:33 > 0:54:38he was miles away from everywhere, and therefore leading a very, very remote life.
0:54:38 > 0:54:40Now the first thing I'm going to tell you
0:54:40 > 0:54:43is obviously, by and large, these are things of that period.
0:54:43 > 0:54:47And a lot of this material can go back to much earlier dates.
0:54:47 > 0:54:53- Right.- The only thing that may well be earlier here are the gauntlets. - OK.
0:54:53 > 0:54:56- Those could go back into the 19th century.- Oh gosh, right, OK.
0:54:56 > 0:55:00We've got typical beadwork styles.
0:55:00 > 0:55:05What we've also got to acknowledge is - by now, while these are tribal pieces,
0:55:05 > 0:55:08a lot of them were being made for people like him.
0:55:08 > 0:55:13- Right.- We've got - in a sense - the tourist element, the visitor element.- OK.
0:55:13 > 0:55:18So the famous pieces like the slippers, the gloves
0:55:18 > 0:55:20and so on, the purses, the bags,
0:55:20 > 0:55:24were very much tourist minded by the makers.
0:55:24 > 0:55:26- OK, yes.- And so on that basis,
0:55:26 > 0:55:29it's not that surprising that they did move out from Canada
0:55:29 > 0:55:31into places like Wales.
0:55:31 > 0:55:36We've got pipes - traditional cut from stone type pipes.
0:55:36 > 0:55:40But the things that excite me most of all are these.
0:55:40 > 0:55:43- OK.- Now why do you think those are different?
0:55:43 > 0:55:45- They're incredible pieces of... - I'm glad you say that.- Yes.
0:55:45 > 0:55:50They're made from a material called argillite which is a stone
0:55:50 > 0:55:53that only occurs in a certain region of Western Canada.
0:55:53 > 0:55:58- Oh, right. - And they are totally the product of one tribe, the Haida tribe.
0:55:58 > 0:56:03- Oh right, OK.- The Haidas actually sit on the world's resources of argillite.
0:56:03 > 0:56:07It's slightly related to slate and when it comes out of the ground,
0:56:07 > 0:56:10it's quite soft and it can be carved,
0:56:10 > 0:56:13and then it becomes harder and harder and harder,
0:56:13 > 0:56:16and it was used from the early 19th century
0:56:16 > 0:56:22for carving things like miniature totem poles and figures that relate
0:56:22 > 0:56:25to all the creatures and animals
0:56:25 > 0:56:28that are significant to the tribe.
0:56:28 > 0:56:31- Yes.- So a piece like this is a wonderful piece of story-telling.
0:56:31 > 0:56:37- All the figures are symbolic and it is this smooth stone-like material. - Yes.
0:56:37 > 0:56:39There's nothing like it in the world anywhere else.
0:56:39 > 0:56:42This is excellent, but fairly typical,
0:56:42 > 0:56:45this is just completely exceptional.
0:56:45 > 0:56:50- Oh right, OK.- So to see that is just sort of blowing my mind out.
0:56:50 > 0:56:53You're sitting on, here, a remarkable collection,
0:56:53 > 0:56:56- and I have to say, quite a valuable collection.- OK.
0:56:56 > 0:57:00A pair of gauntlets like that is probably £500, £600, £700.
0:57:00 > 0:57:01OK.
0:57:01 > 0:57:06The slippers are £200 to £400.
0:57:06 > 0:57:11All the smaller pieces are £100 to £200 and sometimes more,
0:57:11 > 0:57:18so you've got probably £2,000 or £3,000 worth in the beadwork.
0:57:18 > 0:57:21- OK. - Come on to the argillite.
0:57:21 > 0:57:27- That's going to be £1,500 - £2,000. - Oh, my gosh.
0:57:27 > 0:57:29This is going to be - it's such a fantastic piece -
0:57:29 > 0:57:31it's going to be...
0:57:31 > 0:57:36oh, between £2,000 and £3,000 - or even £4,000.
0:57:36 > 0:57:38Oh, my gosh, I never...
0:57:38 > 0:57:42So put it all together, you're getting towards £8,000 or £10,000.
0:57:42 > 0:57:44- Wow, how incredible. - So, he did you proud.
0:57:44 > 0:57:47Yes, he did. And my nana, yes, for keeping all the stuff.
0:57:47 > 0:57:48I've dreamed for years
0:57:48 > 0:57:51to have a really great piece of argillite on the Roadshow.
0:57:51 > 0:57:53- Oh, right.- You've done it for me.
0:57:53 > 0:57:56- OK, oh, thank you.- So thank you very much.- Oh, no problem.
0:57:57 > 0:58:01What a great end to the day for Paul. Our experts never know
0:58:01 > 0:58:05whether they're going to see collections from halfway around the globe or just around the corner.
0:58:07 > 0:58:10It's been wonderful here at Aberystwyth Arts Centre.
0:58:10 > 0:58:13From all of the Roadshow team, until next time, bye-bye.
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