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0:00:02 > 0:00:06This week's Roadshow venue wouldn't win any beauty contests

0:00:06 > 0:00:09but it's what helped Britain conquer the skies.

0:00:16 > 0:00:17Whoa!

0:00:17 > 0:00:20Look at the size of that!

0:00:20 > 0:00:24In here, our best boffins tested the designs of, among other things,

0:00:24 > 0:00:27the Spitfire, the Hurricane, parachutes.

0:00:27 > 0:00:29It's quite a story.

0:00:29 > 0:00:31Welcome to The Antiques Roadshow

0:00:31 > 0:00:34from Farnborough Wind Tunnels, in Hampshire.

0:01:18 > 0:01:20Farnborough Wind Tunnels borders Farnborough Aerodrome.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23This is where the history of British aviation -

0:01:23 > 0:01:26from kite flying, ballooning, gliding

0:01:26 > 0:01:29and then powered flight - really took off

0:01:29 > 0:01:31in the early 20th century.

0:01:31 > 0:01:35What was known as the Royal Aircraft Establishment at Farnborough

0:01:35 > 0:01:38pioneered our jet engine industry.

0:01:38 > 0:01:41The development of the Hurricane, the Harrier Jump Jet,

0:01:41 > 0:01:44the perfect delta wing of the Concorde...

0:01:44 > 0:01:49and yet, this historic site could have been lost to us for ever.

0:01:49 > 0:01:51The whole area was being sold off

0:01:51 > 0:01:54by the Ministry of Defence in the early 1990s,

0:01:54 > 0:01:57when a former RAF fighter pilot, working nearby,

0:01:57 > 0:02:00wondered what was shaking the foundations of his office.

0:02:00 > 0:02:02He stumbled across one of the wind tunnels

0:02:02 > 0:02:06carrying out its final test before decommissioning.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09Findlay Gordon decided the site was worth saving

0:02:09 > 0:02:11and with friends, colleagues and councillors,

0:02:11 > 0:02:16launched a charity - The Farnborough Air Sciences Trust, or FAST.

0:02:18 > 0:02:22Together they set out to save the dusty remains of design models,

0:02:22 > 0:02:23prototype engines,

0:02:23 > 0:02:26buildings, from the scrap heap,

0:02:26 > 0:02:29to save a crucial part of Britain's aviation history.

0:02:34 > 0:02:35Facing down the MOD,

0:02:35 > 0:02:38they spear-headed a campaign to save this -

0:02:38 > 0:02:43the oldest wind tunnel building in the UK, built originally in 1916.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59Nothing sums up the achievement of that group better

0:02:59 > 0:03:05than this incredible piece of design and technology built in 1935.

0:03:05 > 0:03:09The laminated mahogany propellers are 24 foot long.

0:03:09 > 0:03:14The space is so huge that full-size aircraft were tested here.

0:03:17 > 0:03:20It took three years for the plucky band to win through

0:03:20 > 0:03:22and secure the future of these buildings

0:03:22 > 0:03:23by getting a heritage listing,

0:03:23 > 0:03:27and they also rescued hundreds of thousands of objects and images.

0:03:29 > 0:03:31The wind tunnels are decommissioned now,

0:03:31 > 0:03:33but I'm told they can be operational

0:03:33 > 0:03:35if they're plugged into the national grid.

0:03:35 > 0:03:38Today they can be admired on occasional open days,

0:03:38 > 0:03:40so we're delighted to bring a large crowd

0:03:40 > 0:03:43to today's show to admire them.

0:03:43 > 0:03:46And, by the way, today's volunteers helping our visitors,

0:03:46 > 0:03:49are members of FAST who saved this whole site.

0:03:49 > 0:03:51- You need to go to the shed. - Hiya.- Morning!

0:03:53 > 0:03:56A fabulous Victorian shell house.

0:03:56 > 0:03:58- Yes.- Where did you get it from?

0:03:58 > 0:04:02Well, there was a second-hand furniture dealer in Aldershot

0:04:02 > 0:04:06and there's an old guy there reminded me very much of Charlie Chaplin,

0:04:06 > 0:04:09used to wear - a little chap - a bowler hat,

0:04:09 > 0:04:12we brought it home, and we've had it ever since.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15And where has it been for all those years?

0:04:15 > 0:04:17On wardrobes, top of cupboards,

0:04:17 > 0:04:20it's always been on a shelf somewhere.

0:04:20 > 0:04:21And you love it?

0:04:21 > 0:04:23Oh, yes, yes.

0:04:23 > 0:04:28What I love about it is the amazing detail.

0:04:28 > 0:04:33You've got this fabulous peacock there and the gentleman,

0:04:33 > 0:04:37and all these different shells which would have been imported.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39- Yes, yes. - What did you think about it?

0:04:39 > 0:04:40Do you remember it growing up?

0:04:40 > 0:04:43I do, me and my brother used to spend hours just...

0:04:43 > 0:04:46I used to spend hours with my face pressed up against the glass,

0:04:46 > 0:04:48trying to see all the little detail of it,

0:04:48 > 0:04:51because if you look in the windows, it's all completely furnished

0:04:51 > 0:04:55and there's children playing in the front room and it's just amazing.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59My favourite is the little old woman just coming out of the door,

0:04:59 > 0:05:01with her shawl on.

0:05:01 > 0:05:03- And she's feeding the chickens. - Yes.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05- And the little pussycat chasing the mouse.- Yes.

0:05:05 > 0:05:09- Yes, yes. - I mean, that's just beautiful.

0:05:09 > 0:05:13And it would have been made about 1850 or 1860,

0:05:13 > 0:05:15- it's quite early Victorian. - Yes, yes.

0:05:15 > 0:05:19Of course, the Victorians were very keen on worthwhile pastimes

0:05:19 > 0:05:22and I could see possibly the man of the house

0:05:22 > 0:05:25actually making the house itself,

0:05:25 > 0:05:28and then a woman putting all these shells on,

0:05:28 > 0:05:31and it would have taken months to do.

0:05:31 > 0:05:33Have you ever seen any like this before, or...?

0:05:33 > 0:05:36This is one of the most detailed ones I've seen.

0:05:36 > 0:05:37I've seen shell houses before,

0:05:37 > 0:05:40they were that sort of early Victorian period.

0:05:40 > 0:05:41They started in the 18th century

0:05:41 > 0:05:44but the early Victorian period they were very popular.

0:05:44 > 0:05:48- I know you've got a glass dome for it too which keeps it...- Yes.

0:05:48 > 0:05:50- It's in beautiful condition.- Yes.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53I would say, if this came up for auction,

0:05:53 > 0:05:57you'd put an estimate of £800-£1,200.

0:05:57 > 0:06:00- Really?- But I could see it, I could see it selling for more than that

0:06:00 > 0:06:02because it really is sensational.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04Oh! Thank you very much.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07- There you go. Happy? - Oh, yes.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17I love this picture. I mean, it's so Impressionist

0:06:17 > 0:06:20and that's what, I think, makes it attractive.

0:06:20 > 0:06:22So do you think this is French?

0:06:22 > 0:06:26No, I think it's German because on the signature it says "Berlin '87".

0:06:26 > 0:06:28Quite right, 1887 that would be,

0:06:28 > 0:06:31and you can see the signature above.

0:06:32 > 0:06:35"JUL" - Jul for Julius,

0:06:35 > 0:06:38and then Jacob or "Ya-cob". J-A-C-O-B.

0:06:38 > 0:06:41And he's a minor artist, born in 1842,

0:06:41 > 0:06:42died in 1929.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45That's literally all the facts we have about the artist.

0:06:45 > 0:06:49But I assume, as it's inscribed "Berlin",

0:06:49 > 0:06:51that he lived and worked in that region.

0:06:51 > 0:06:54Doesn't always follow that, of course,

0:06:54 > 0:06:56because many artists studied abroad so, you know,

0:06:56 > 0:06:59you could have Norwegians, for instance,

0:06:59 > 0:07:02- where I believe you may originate from...- Yes, I do.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04..that studied in Dusseldorf,

0:07:04 > 0:07:07so you often see a picture by a Norwegian artist signed "Dusseldorf"

0:07:07 > 0:07:11- but that's just by-the-by.- OK.- Did you buy this picture or inherit it?

0:07:11 > 0:07:13No, I inherited it from my grandparents.

0:07:13 > 0:07:16- Right.- It was bought in Norway

0:07:16 > 0:07:18from a very posh arts shop,

0:07:18 > 0:07:21by my grandfather, but I don't know any more about it.

0:07:21 > 0:07:25There's a big connection between Norway and Germany.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27Right.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31And so there was a lot of artists from Germany painting in Norway

0:07:31 > 0:07:33- and vice versa.- Right.

0:07:33 > 0:07:35And I love this picture,

0:07:35 > 0:07:39but it is very much a sort of typical Impressionist style.

0:07:39 > 0:07:43This was just after the real sort of true Impressionist period in France,

0:07:43 > 0:07:48in the 1870s, so the influence of Impressionism

0:07:48 > 0:07:49is creeping across Europe,

0:07:49 > 0:07:52and you can see with these beautiful broad strokes of the clouds

0:07:52 > 0:07:55and this idyllic landscape here in front of us.

0:07:55 > 0:07:59I think it's just beautiful.

0:07:59 > 0:08:02Well, I mean there is always a good market for German art

0:08:02 > 0:08:04but if it had been French -

0:08:04 > 0:08:06been by a French Impressionist such as Monet -

0:08:06 > 0:08:09ooh, we'd be talking about a lot of money, wouldn't we?

0:08:09 > 0:08:12For this size, two or three million,

0:08:12 > 0:08:15but being German, I would say we're probably looking at

0:08:15 > 0:08:20- something in the region of £3,000-£5,000.- Right. OK.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22- Not too bad?- No, very good.

0:08:25 > 0:08:26Reading, writing and arithmetic

0:08:26 > 0:08:29are still obviously part of the national curriculum,

0:08:29 > 0:08:35- but here we've got an 18th-century book on penmanship.- Right.

0:08:35 > 0:08:38The art of lettering, calligraphy.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41- Right.- Can you tell me, where did you get it from?

0:08:41 > 0:08:44Well, there was... where I worked there was a gardener

0:08:44 > 0:08:47and he used to be given material

0:08:47 > 0:08:50and things that weren't wanted to burn on a bonfire

0:08:50 > 0:08:53and I used to chat to him,

0:08:53 > 0:08:55so he very kindly said,

0:08:55 > 0:08:58"Oh, if there's anything that interests you, I'll keep it."

0:08:58 > 0:09:02And he gave me that and of course I was delighted, couldn't believe it.

0:09:02 > 0:09:04- Yes.- So lovely. - It is, it's a charming book.

0:09:04 > 0:09:08I mean, it is a lovely book. It still gives me a bit of a thrill.

0:09:08 > 0:09:12- And it's typical sort of 18th-century binding as well.- Yes.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15And we've got the name of the calligrapher,

0:09:15 > 0:09:17the person who wrote it, here, it's "John Lewis..."

0:09:17 > 0:09:20and "..is the true owner of this book,

0:09:20 > 0:09:23- "written in the year of our Lord God 1734"- Yes.

0:09:23 > 0:09:25- What I hadn't realised when I opened it...- Yes?

0:09:25 > 0:09:27..it's actually an alphabet.

0:09:28 > 0:09:31Oh, yes, because it's quite difficult to decipher the initial letters.

0:09:31 > 0:09:33The initial letters, absolutely,

0:09:33 > 0:09:35the initial letter of each page is in alphabetical order.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38- Oh, wonderful, yes. - And so here, on the first page,

0:09:38 > 0:09:40is a capital A and it reads -

0:09:40 > 0:09:45I've just managed to decipher it - "A wise man will..."

0:09:45 > 0:09:47and then it gets rather tricky, actually!

0:09:47 > 0:09:50- But that's the A, the capital A. - Oh, right, yes.

0:09:50 > 0:09:52And then if we go a bit further on,

0:09:52 > 0:09:55- this one is a "C" for contentment. - Yes.

0:09:55 > 0:09:59"Makes a man happy without a fortune."

0:09:59 > 0:10:02And again he's signed it, "John Lewis 1734".

0:10:02 > 0:10:06This coincides with a book that was published

0:10:06 > 0:10:09- by a chap called George Bickham.- Oh.

0:10:09 > 0:10:11Who published a book called "The Universal Penman"

0:10:11 > 0:10:14which is the classic calligraphy book.

0:10:14 > 0:10:18- Yes.- And I have a suspicion that

0:10:18 > 0:10:23young John Lewis possibly had a copy of Bickham in front of him

0:10:23 > 0:10:25and was either copying it, or imitating it.

0:10:25 > 0:10:29- Yes, yes, yes. - If we go a bit further on...

0:10:29 > 0:10:32that I think is a "G", although it's terribly complicated.

0:10:32 > 0:10:35- Yes.- But it does work out as being a G.

0:10:35 > 0:10:37He was quite good at it, wasn't he?

0:10:37 > 0:10:39Oh, he was very good, very competent, absolutely.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42It's so...it's exciting to have it.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45I mean, I enjoy looking at the way he sort of developed it.

0:10:45 > 0:10:47Some of the styles are different, aren't they?

0:10:47 > 0:10:49Yes, indeed, we've got some sort of old...

0:10:49 > 0:10:51- what one might call more Gothic script.- Yes.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54- And then there's the sort of typically...- Little head.

0:10:54 > 0:10:56These lovely decorations as well.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00- Yes, yes.- Absolutely charming and it's worth money, actually.- Really?

0:11:00 > 0:11:03I think if you... if it came up for auction,

0:11:03 > 0:11:06- it would make somewhere between £300-£500.- Really?

0:11:06 > 0:11:08- I'm amazed at that!- It's charming.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11I thought, being a sort of one-off thing, it wouldn't.

0:11:11 > 0:11:14Well, that's what makes it so interesting, it is one-off.

0:11:14 > 0:11:19- It's lovely, thank you.- Oh, well, thank you. That's very, very helpful.

0:11:21 > 0:11:23This is called a cap tally.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27It goes around the cap of a naval man, a sailor.

0:11:27 > 0:11:29I thought it went round the arm.

0:11:29 > 0:11:32No, it's around the cap and it says "HMS Hood".

0:11:32 > 0:11:34That's a very famous ship.

0:11:34 > 0:11:36Now, why do you have this?

0:11:36 > 0:11:39Well, my great-grandad was on the Hood when it sank.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41He was a boatswain.

0:11:41 > 0:11:45- A very important job.- Yes. - And these are his medals?

0:11:45 > 0:11:48- Yes.- So of course he would never have got to wear them, would he?- No.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51You've brought this album, tell me what's in the album.

0:11:51 > 0:11:53Well, in the album are the pictures he took

0:11:53 > 0:11:57before he had to fight against the Bismarck.

0:11:57 > 0:12:02And if we go onto this page... there's a picture of him in here.

0:12:02 > 0:12:05That's him, that's your great-grandfather?

0:12:05 > 0:12:08- Yes.- In uniform.- Yes.- Now, the interesting thing about that

0:12:08 > 0:12:11is that he's wearing a cap tally that says "Submarine" on it,

0:12:11 > 0:12:13so there's a reason for that -

0:12:13 > 0:12:18whether he did serve in submarines at some point, I don't know.

0:12:18 > 0:12:20Now, the interesting point about this cap tally is,

0:12:20 > 0:12:24during the Second World War, because of the danger of spying,

0:12:24 > 0:12:27the ship's name was taken off the cap tally,

0:12:27 > 0:12:30so it only said "HMS" so you couldn't identify...

0:12:30 > 0:12:31If you saw a sailor in a port,

0:12:31 > 0:12:34you couldn't identify which ship he was from.

0:12:34 > 0:12:36- I see. - Had to keep secrets during the war.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39Now, do you know the history of the sinking of the Hood?

0:12:39 > 0:12:42- Yes. - Do you know how it was destroyed?

0:12:42 > 0:12:44- Yes.- What do you know about that?

0:12:44 > 0:12:49Well, I believe it was hit in the decking by the Bismarck.

0:12:49 > 0:12:52Well, there was a great battle that took place

0:12:52 > 0:12:56because the Bismarck was the pride of the German navy

0:12:56 > 0:13:00and it was thought to be the greatest battleship ever built

0:13:00 > 0:13:02and almost indestructible.

0:13:02 > 0:13:07And we, the British, desperately wanted to sink the Bismarck

0:13:07 > 0:13:11and we sent several ships to hunt for the Bismarck

0:13:11 > 0:13:15and the Hood was one of those ships.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18Now, HMS Hood was one of the greatest battleships

0:13:18 > 0:13:20we've ever built in this country.

0:13:20 > 0:13:23It was regarded as the pride of the British Navy

0:13:23 > 0:13:25and right at the beginning of the battle,

0:13:25 > 0:13:29the Bismarck sent several salvos - several shots -

0:13:29 > 0:13:33towards the Hood and one of them went into the Hood

0:13:33 > 0:13:37and probably exploded the magazine - all the ammunition.

0:13:37 > 0:13:41And the explosion was almost instantaneous

0:13:41 > 0:13:46and the ship just exploded into thousands of pieces.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48It was a terrible explosion

0:13:48 > 0:13:52and over 1,000 men died on that ship,

0:13:52 > 0:13:54including your great-grandfather.

0:13:55 > 0:13:57What do you think of him?

0:13:57 > 0:14:01I think of him as a very powerful man.

0:14:01 > 0:14:05He must have been very brave to fight for his country

0:14:05 > 0:14:09and important to be chosen for the Navy.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12But you've got other photographs here too.

0:14:12 > 0:14:14Well, that is him sitting on the Hood.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16This is actually on the Hood itself?

0:14:16 > 0:14:18Yes.

0:14:18 > 0:14:20That's a great photo.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23I know you're not interested in the value - I'm sure you're not -

0:14:23 > 0:14:27- but collectors do pay lots of money for this sort of thing.- Yes.

0:14:27 > 0:14:29And there's a very interesting story behind it,

0:14:29 > 0:14:33so I think the medals, the cap tally

0:14:33 > 0:14:36and all these photographs are probably going to be worth

0:14:36 > 0:14:38something in the region of £800-£1,200.

0:14:38 > 0:14:40Well, I'll tell my grandad that.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47Now, don't get confused, this isn't Gardeners' World,

0:14:47 > 0:14:49this is The Antiques Roadshow

0:14:49 > 0:14:52and it's really interesting to see some garden pieces

0:14:52 > 0:14:54on The Antiques Roadshow for a change.

0:14:54 > 0:14:56I love the way they've been beautifully weathered.

0:14:56 > 0:14:58Well, I think they're very old.

0:14:58 > 0:15:03- How old?- Well, they've been in my family for as long as I can remember.

0:15:03 > 0:15:06And what else can you tell me about them?

0:15:06 > 0:15:08Well, I don't know where they came from,

0:15:08 > 0:15:12but my parents thought they were worth quite a lot of money

0:15:12 > 0:15:15and I went to the Watts Gallery a few years ago

0:15:15 > 0:15:20and I spotted the pots there and I came home and said to my husband,

0:15:20 > 0:15:23- "I've seen my pots at the Watts Gallery."- Bingo!

0:15:23 > 0:15:26And I saw another one in Godalming Museum on another occasion

0:15:26 > 0:15:28and that's all I know about them,

0:15:28 > 0:15:31so I can only assume they're Watts pots.

0:15:31 > 0:15:35It was Mary Watts who actually started the business down in Compton

0:15:35 > 0:15:37and they're a Scottish family

0:15:37 > 0:15:40and her husband, George F Watts,

0:15:40 > 0:15:43he was a famous artist

0:15:43 > 0:15:44and she had time on her hands

0:15:44 > 0:15:48- and so she started this business of making pottery.- Yes.

0:15:48 > 0:15:52And they were digging the local clay - this red clay -

0:15:52 > 0:15:55and this is the latter part of the Victorian period

0:15:55 > 0:15:57and red clay was highly fashionable

0:15:57 > 0:16:01- and these were actually moulded, it's a moulded cast.- Yes.

0:16:01 > 0:16:05And she was selling to the top garden designers.

0:16:05 > 0:16:10She was selling to Gertrude Jekyll, Lutyens and Liberty in London.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13- They were selling these pots. - All the best names.

0:16:13 > 0:16:16- Exactly, the top names, especially Gertrude Jekyll.- Yes.

0:16:16 > 0:16:19And in the Jekyll gardens you will see them on a ledge.

0:16:19 > 0:16:22- Oh, right.- Because they normally put them on a ledge.

0:16:22 > 0:16:24Well, actually, they are...

0:16:24 > 0:16:27The part of the garden they're on is raised up,

0:16:27 > 0:16:29so from the house they are raised.

0:16:29 > 0:16:34- Well, that's aesthetically how they should be shown.- Oh, right.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36- Right, so we've got to get down to values.- Yes.

0:16:36 > 0:16:40Now, these are one of the few items where you can sell these singly

0:16:40 > 0:16:41and they're still quite valuable.

0:16:41 > 0:16:47I think you've got to look at between £1,500 and £2,000 a pot.

0:16:47 > 0:16:48They're marvellous!

0:16:48 > 0:16:51Oh, great. Thank you.

0:16:51 > 0:16:54So you were doing a house clearance?

0:16:54 > 0:16:58- Yes.- And...?- My parents' house.

0:16:58 > 0:17:00And somebody came along and offered you how much?

0:17:00 > 0:17:04- £2,500.- For this?- Yes.- OK. - It started off lower than that,

0:17:04 > 0:17:08then gradually crept up throughout the afternoon.

0:17:08 > 0:17:09So you were bargaining?

0:17:09 > 0:17:13- No, I told him it was not for sale. - It wasn't for sale.- Never.

0:17:13 > 0:17:17So you turned down £2,500. You've also brought this painting along.

0:17:17 > 0:17:21- Yes.- Before I tell you whether you made the right or wrong decision,

0:17:21 > 0:17:24I'm going to ask Mark to tell us more about your painting

0:17:24 > 0:17:26because that really looks lovely.

0:17:26 > 0:17:30Well, it is lovely and it's the most beautiful view of Hammersmith.

0:17:30 > 0:17:32- Yeah.- In London.

0:17:32 > 0:17:35And it's by EC Williams - Edward Charles Williams -

0:17:35 > 0:17:37one of the great painters of Victorian England,

0:17:37 > 0:17:40born in 1807 and died in 1881.

0:17:40 > 0:17:43He was part of a huge family of landscape and town painters,

0:17:43 > 0:17:46the Williams family, but I've always thought that EC

0:17:46 > 0:17:48was one of the better ones.

0:17:48 > 0:17:53And what I love about it is the sort of nice early depiction of London

0:17:53 > 0:17:56and you can see it's before The Embankment was built

0:17:56 > 0:17:58and you've got the old Hammersmith Bridge, so it's beautiful.

0:17:58 > 0:18:00Do you live near there or...?

0:18:00 > 0:18:03- Yes, we used to, we were in Earls Court.- Oh, not far away at all.

0:18:03 > 0:18:06- No. - And you journeyed over this bridge?

0:18:06 > 0:18:08I journeyed over the bridge, yes,

0:18:08 > 0:18:11and I journeyed along The Embankment.

0:18:11 > 0:18:15I used to work in the East End, so went back and forth frequently.

0:18:15 > 0:18:19So let's say you wanted to raise £2,500.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22Well, I think I could do better for this.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25I think this little picture's worth £3,000-£5,000 on today's market.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27Really? I would never sell it.

0:18:27 > 0:18:29- Oh!- Sorry!- After all that!

0:18:29 > 0:18:32After all that, I would never sell it, no, I love it.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35No, you must keep it, because it's really lovely and I'm very envious.

0:18:35 > 0:18:37- Thank you.- So, Lars, what about you?

0:18:37 > 0:18:39So you're going to sell the jar instead, is that right?

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- No, I'm not selling anything. - We're not doing very well.

0:18:42 > 0:18:44- Not doing very well, are we? - Let's have a look.

0:18:44 > 0:18:47I'll tell you a bit about the jar. Do you know anything about it?

0:18:47 > 0:18:50No, not a lot. I think it was in my grandparents' house.

0:18:50 > 0:18:53It's one of those things that's been part of the family

0:18:53 > 0:18:55- for as long as I can remember.- OK.

0:18:55 > 0:18:57This is a very, very bold, unusually bold mark,

0:18:57 > 0:19:00for a piece of Chinese porcelain. You've got six characters.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04Great Qing dynasty, Kangxi. Year made.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07Kangxi is the clue here.

0:19:07 > 0:19:11This is an emperor who reigned from 1662 to 1722

0:19:11 > 0:19:16and almost every Kangxi mark that one sees is wrong.

0:19:16 > 0:19:19And it's very, very bold as well.

0:19:19 > 0:19:20What is nice about this,

0:19:20 > 0:19:25is this wonderful imperial lemon yellow enamel glaze

0:19:25 > 0:19:28you've got on here, so that is supposed to be reserved for -

0:19:28 > 0:19:32that particular colour - is reserved for the Emperor and nobody else.

0:19:32 > 0:19:37- Oh, quite right!- So at £2,500, actually, I would say take it,

0:19:37 > 0:19:39if this were a copy of the Kangxi period,

0:19:39 > 0:19:43then £2,500 is an extremely generous offer.

0:19:43 > 0:19:44- Oh, really?- Yeah.

0:19:44 > 0:19:46However, it is actually of the period it says,

0:19:46 > 0:19:49so it's probably worth between £5,000 and £10,000.

0:19:49 > 0:19:51LAUGHTER

0:19:51 > 0:19:53How fantastic!

0:19:53 > 0:19:55Oh, I'm so pleased I didn't.

0:19:55 > 0:19:57It's very lucky he wasn't calling at your door!

0:19:59 > 0:20:02Oh, I'm delighted. I love this. I love this vase.

0:20:02 > 0:20:04Again, it's not for sale.

0:20:06 > 0:20:08I love this piece of furniture

0:20:08 > 0:20:11and I've watched Antiques Roadshow for many years,

0:20:11 > 0:20:12but I've lived in South Africa

0:20:12 > 0:20:15and haven't been able to get to The Antiques Roadshow.

0:20:15 > 0:20:18And we came to Surrey last year and I looked on the website

0:20:18 > 0:20:20and I saw you were in Farnborough.

0:20:20 > 0:20:23I thought, well, this piece of furniture I'd love to bring.

0:20:23 > 0:20:26This is one of my loves. It's campaign furniture,

0:20:26 > 0:20:28which is basically military furniture

0:20:28 > 0:20:31made for high-ranking officers

0:20:31 > 0:20:33at literally the top level.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36And its construction is what I love about it.

0:20:36 > 0:20:40It's made of best mahogany but all this comes apart -

0:20:40 > 0:20:43it's the early flat-pack furniture, basically.

0:20:43 > 0:20:46It would all be stored in little boxes

0:20:46 > 0:20:49and it's just unbelievable to find furniture like this.

0:20:49 > 0:20:51A few years ago, this would have been sold as a shelf

0:20:51 > 0:20:54and no-one would have realised. In the last few years,

0:20:54 > 0:20:57people have really taken military furniture seriously.

0:20:57 > 0:20:59But it needs to have a history.

0:20:59 > 0:21:01Have you got any history within the family?

0:21:01 > 0:21:02Well, yes, we do.

0:21:02 > 0:21:07My grandfather's great-grandfather was Sir John Hindmarsh

0:21:07 > 0:21:10and he was born in 1785,

0:21:10 > 0:21:13I think, and died in 1860

0:21:13 > 0:21:15and he fought in seven battles.

0:21:15 > 0:21:17He was a naval officer

0:21:17 > 0:21:19and he then became the first governor of South Australia.

0:21:19 > 0:21:22And have you worked out which battles he was in,

0:21:22 > 0:21:23before we get onto Australia, or...?

0:21:23 > 0:21:28Yeah, quite a number of them - the Nile, Trafalgar, um...

0:21:28 > 0:21:30OK, that's pretty impressive!

0:21:30 > 0:21:33Yeah, and there apparently is a letter, which I haven't seen,

0:21:33 > 0:21:34but a letter from Nelson

0:21:34 > 0:21:38which appointed him to the ship for Trafalgar

0:21:38 > 0:21:42and which is part of the family history.

0:21:42 > 0:21:46So this was in my grandparents' house

0:21:46 > 0:21:49and I have assumed that it belonged to him

0:21:49 > 0:21:51but because I didn't know how old it was...

0:21:51 > 0:21:54It's bang on that date.

0:21:54 > 0:21:57I mean 1830-1860, it wouldn't have changed much in style.

0:21:57 > 0:22:01I would say this is around 1830-1840.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03I mean, you can only imagine what this piece of furniture has seen,

0:22:03 > 0:22:06- which is why I love campaign furniture.- Yes.

0:22:06 > 0:22:08The battles this could have been in!

0:22:08 > 0:22:12Pieces like this, say in the Battle of Trafalgar or the Nile,

0:22:12 > 0:22:14they were all flat-packed

0:22:14 > 0:22:17and put into one of the boats and towed behind the ships.

0:22:17 > 0:22:20Because one of the biggest causes of death was splinters.

0:22:20 > 0:22:22So you didn't want pieces - cannonballs coming through,

0:22:22 > 0:22:25all this being shattered. So they used to pack it all away.

0:22:25 > 0:22:27That's another reason for the flat-packing.

0:22:27 > 0:22:29Such a brilliant system.

0:22:29 > 0:22:31And these aren't right.

0:22:31 > 0:22:34- Oh, they're not? - No, the finials, these are later.

0:22:34 > 0:22:37- You wouldn't have things like this. - I wondered because they do look odd.

0:22:37 > 0:22:39Exactly, and they would just have a manly finial,

0:22:39 > 0:22:42- a very small finial on top. - A manly one, yeah, I like that.

0:22:42 > 0:22:45- And all this would go.- It does, it does.- Pack down and it's brilliant.

0:22:45 > 0:22:48- Pack right down.- And the condition - it needs a little bit of work.

0:22:48 > 0:22:51- I would get this repaired, tidied up and polished.- Yeah.

0:22:51 > 0:22:53But find out that history.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56If you can tie anything to a letter or an order,

0:22:56 > 0:22:59go through any of the old paperwork, it makes a difference.

0:22:59 > 0:23:01As it stands, as a nice piece of campaign furniture,

0:23:01 > 0:23:03it would be £600 to £800.

0:23:03 > 0:23:06If you can tie it to the battles,

0:23:06 > 0:23:09then it goes up to sort of £2,000 to £3,000 -

0:23:09 > 0:23:11makes quite a big difference.

0:23:11 > 0:23:14Provenance is so important with this stuff. Thanks very much.

0:23:14 > 0:23:17- Thank you very much. Really interesting, thanks.- It's great fun.

0:23:20 > 0:23:23These are the notebooks of Sir George Cayley,

0:23:23 > 0:23:27who was born in Yorkshire in 1777

0:23:27 > 0:23:32and by 1800 he had formulated the theory of flight

0:23:32 > 0:23:34and he understood the forces

0:23:34 > 0:23:37that act on what we would call an aeroplane today.

0:23:37 > 0:23:40He designed the caterpillar track which was used on, you know,

0:23:40 > 0:23:43large earth-moving equipment and military vehicles.

0:23:43 > 0:23:45He designed the self-righting lifeboat.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48In this diagram here of the wheels,

0:23:48 > 0:23:51he was looking for a light wheel, so he designed a tensioned wheel

0:23:51 > 0:23:54which actually is what's used in bicycles today.

0:23:54 > 0:23:56So he designed the bicycle wheel.

0:23:56 > 0:23:59- So a real English polymath. - A real English polymath.

0:23:59 > 0:24:02Now, I really am a layman, but even I can see that this diagram here,

0:24:02 > 0:24:06which has helpfully been dated 1804,

0:24:06 > 0:24:08- that's 100 years...- 100 years before the Wright Brothers.

0:24:08 > 0:24:10..before the Wright Brothers.

0:24:10 > 0:24:12Even I can see that's a prototype aeroplane.

0:24:12 > 0:24:16We have wings at the front here and a tail plane at the back.

0:24:16 > 0:24:20The Wright Brothers actually got into aviation through flying models

0:24:20 > 0:24:23that were based on Cayley's designs

0:24:23 > 0:24:26and they have acknowledged this in their writing.

0:24:26 > 0:24:30So, Sir George Cayley - a little-known Yorkshireman -

0:24:30 > 0:24:34is the father of aerodynamics and aeronautical science.

0:24:34 > 0:24:37Tell me, what about powering these aeroplanes?

0:24:37 > 0:24:41I mean, he was gliding, which is clearly a major step forward.

0:24:41 > 0:24:43But, as I understand it, in order to take flying forward,

0:24:43 > 0:24:46you must have some way of powering yourself...

0:24:46 > 0:24:48- He understood...- ..through the air.

0:24:48 > 0:24:50He understood that you needed lift from the wings

0:24:50 > 0:24:52to counterbalance the weight

0:24:52 > 0:24:55and you needed thrust to counterbalance the drag.

0:24:55 > 0:24:57If you look at this diagram down here,

0:24:57 > 0:25:03here you see an aircraft with the wings to lift it.

0:25:03 > 0:25:06The propulsion, which are flapping wings, as he called them,

0:25:06 > 0:25:09and they are powered by this engine,

0:25:09 > 0:25:11which was an internal combustion engine

0:25:11 > 0:25:13that he designed to run on gunpowder.

0:25:13 > 0:25:17Now, clearly, he never built it but the concept is there.

0:25:17 > 0:25:20And an undercarriage, so that is an aircraft as we would recognise today.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22When would he have drawn this?

0:25:22 > 0:25:24This was in 1848, towards the end of his life.

0:25:24 > 0:25:27Can you tell me why they're here at Farnborough now?

0:25:27 > 0:25:31Well, yes, I'm a trustee of the Royal Aeronautical Society

0:25:31 > 0:25:32and about 100 yards from here

0:25:32 > 0:25:34in one of the other historic buildings,

0:25:34 > 0:25:37you've got the National Aerospace Library,

0:25:37 > 0:25:41and this is an example of some of the treasures we have in that library.

0:25:41 > 0:25:43This little remark caught my eyes.

0:25:44 > 0:25:49George Cayley writes, "You, to whom it may concern when I am gone,

0:25:49 > 0:25:53"may find the seeds of thought in these scrawls."

0:25:53 > 0:25:55- Never a truer word. - That's perfect, isn't it?

0:25:55 > 0:25:58And so these are going to have very considerable value.

0:25:58 > 0:26:04I can quite easily see these making £30,000 or £40,000 at auction,

0:26:04 > 0:26:08possibly very considerably more.

0:26:08 > 0:26:10Well, they're going to remain safe

0:26:10 > 0:26:13in the National Aerospace Library, Justin.

0:26:17 > 0:26:19Now, whilst flowers like lilies

0:26:19 > 0:26:23are sometimes associated with mourning,

0:26:23 > 0:26:26do you think that this originally was used as some mourning jewel?

0:26:26 > 0:26:28- Because I don't, do you?- No.

0:26:28 > 0:26:31I can only tell you it was a 21st birthday present.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34- Oh, right, OK.- In 1909.

0:26:34 > 0:26:36Which is about the right period for it.

0:26:36 > 0:26:38Where do you think it comes from?

0:26:38 > 0:26:40Well, I don't know.

0:26:40 > 0:26:43I know my grandparents used to go to France quite often.

0:26:43 > 0:26:45That would be right.

0:26:45 > 0:26:48I think it's turn of the century, so we're looking at 1900-1910.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51In other words, 1909 would be absolutely perfect.

0:26:51 > 0:26:55And I think it's a prime example of the Art Nouveau theme.

0:26:55 > 0:26:59It is that typical, naturalistic Nouveau look

0:26:59 > 0:27:04that was all the rage at the start of the 20th century in France.

0:27:04 > 0:27:08It is enamelled all over the surface,

0:27:08 > 0:27:12it's got these charming natural pearls

0:27:12 > 0:27:14and it's got the detailing -

0:27:14 > 0:27:16diamond chips going down the front.

0:27:16 > 0:27:22Most importantly, it's in absolutely terrific condition.

0:27:22 > 0:27:25Because when these get damaged, when they chip,

0:27:25 > 0:27:28they lose an enormous amount of value.

0:27:28 > 0:27:31When they have all the components in place

0:27:31 > 0:27:33and it's as prime as this, it adds to the value.

0:27:33 > 0:27:36I think if such a piece of jewellery

0:27:36 > 0:27:39in that condition came up at auction,

0:27:39 > 0:27:40£2,000-£2,500.

0:27:40 > 0:27:44That's very nice, but it has to go to my daughter.

0:27:44 > 0:27:48- It's a 21st birthday... - Well, that's a nice thing to hear,

0:27:48 > 0:27:49but bear in mind,

0:27:49 > 0:27:52the value will keep on rising. It's a great piece.

0:27:52 > 0:27:56- I'm delighted to hear it. Thank you. - Thank you very much.

0:27:57 > 0:28:00This is a letter from my uncle,

0:28:00 > 0:28:04who was a sergeant major in the Grenadier Guards, 1914, in France.

0:28:04 > 0:28:08He was actually a witness to the Christmas Day truce

0:28:08 > 0:28:11and the football match which we understand took place

0:28:11 > 0:28:14and we know it did because it's mentioned in his letter.

0:28:14 > 0:28:16- In this letter?- In this letter.

0:28:16 > 0:28:18It's a pencil-written letter.

0:28:18 > 0:28:21Most of these letters home were written in pencil.

0:28:21 > 0:28:25Oh, I see here, it says that he's buried 69 men,

0:28:25 > 0:28:27"And then the next thing happened -

0:28:27 > 0:28:30"a football kicked out of our trenches

0:28:30 > 0:28:33"and German and English played football.

0:28:33 > 0:28:37"Night came and still no shots.

0:28:37 > 0:28:41"Boxing Day the same, and has remained so up till now."

0:28:41 > 0:28:43- Isn't that astonishing?- Yes.

0:28:43 > 0:28:48This man was a witness to that now very famous event.

0:28:48 > 0:28:50- Exactly.- It's down in history,

0:28:50 > 0:28:52that event, you know, and he witnessed it.

0:28:52 > 0:28:54And was disputed that it ever took place for a long time,

0:28:54 > 0:28:56by the powers that be.

0:28:56 > 0:28:58I find that astonishing, actually.

0:28:58 > 0:29:02It's an incredibly historically important letter, this, I think.

0:29:02 > 0:29:04And, actually, letters like this

0:29:04 > 0:29:07often have very little value outside the family.

0:29:07 > 0:29:10- Sure.- But in this instance, actually, I think it does have a value.

0:29:10 > 0:29:14I think a collector of First World War memorabilia

0:29:14 > 0:29:15- could easily pay £150 for it. - Really?

0:29:15 > 0:29:18Maybe even more because it mentions that event.

0:29:18 > 0:29:20- Yes, yes.- Very rare.

0:29:20 > 0:29:24Yeah, yeah, well, it needs to be preserved for posterity.

0:29:26 > 0:29:28Do you know, there's hardly a day in my life

0:29:28 > 0:29:30when I don't use my pocket knife.

0:29:30 > 0:29:33It's a fabulously useful object

0:29:33 > 0:29:35but it's by no means a new invention.

0:29:35 > 0:29:40And just in case we were thinking how old pocket knives are,

0:29:40 > 0:29:44what about this one? Because this is a Roman pocket knife.

0:29:44 > 0:29:47It's 2,000 years old.

0:29:47 > 0:29:51How do you happen to have a 2,000-year-old pocket knife?

0:29:51 > 0:29:53My father was a metal detectorist

0:29:53 > 0:29:56and he used to go out quite often

0:29:56 > 0:30:01and bring in coins and all sorts and he found that.

0:30:01 > 0:30:04It was given to me when he died

0:30:04 > 0:30:07and we went to the British Museum and found one in the British Museum,

0:30:07 > 0:30:11so that's how I know more or less what it is and brought it in today.

0:30:11 > 0:30:13Well, it's a fabulous little item.

0:30:13 > 0:30:16For one thing it really takes you back to a point

0:30:16 > 0:30:19where some chap, maybe a legionnaire,

0:30:19 > 0:30:21was sitting there, unfolding this knife,

0:30:21 > 0:30:24even picking his finger nails with it.

0:30:24 > 0:30:29What it is, is a stylised dog chasing what appears to be a hare

0:30:29 > 0:30:32and this is a very common theme in Roman pocket knives,

0:30:32 > 0:30:36you'll often see these kind of chase scenes. It's made of bronze.

0:30:36 > 0:30:39The iron blade, which is now very badly corroded,

0:30:39 > 0:30:42is just nestling in the bottom there.

0:30:42 > 0:30:46Now, your father, obviously as a metal detectorist,

0:30:46 > 0:30:48probably was quite pleased to find this

0:30:48 > 0:30:50and I'm sure he reported it to his local finds officer,

0:30:50 > 0:30:52which is a very important thing you must do

0:30:52 > 0:30:55with objects you find with a metal detector.

0:30:55 > 0:30:57But, strangely enough,

0:30:57 > 0:31:00being old doesn't necessarily make you really valuable.

0:31:00 > 0:31:05For an object like this, what are we looking at? Probably £200-£300.

0:31:05 > 0:31:08- Oh, right.- Maybe a little bit more than you anticipated.

0:31:08 > 0:31:11More than, yeah, definitely, definitely.

0:31:11 > 0:31:13In sentimental terms it's worth a great deal more to you.

0:31:13 > 0:31:16Yes, definitely, it is.

0:31:16 > 0:31:21This extraordinary document is Florence Nightingale's passport

0:31:21 > 0:31:25but she's not mentioned on this document here. Why is that?

0:31:25 > 0:31:28No, she's not, because the passport is a collective passport

0:31:28 > 0:31:31for the first group of nurses,

0:31:31 > 0:31:33with Florence as the lady Superintendent,

0:31:33 > 0:31:36to take them out to the scene of the Crimean War.

0:31:36 > 0:31:39And she didn't have a passport, or they had a collective passport,

0:31:39 > 0:31:44- because they were women, so not thought worthy of a passport?- Yeah.

0:31:44 > 0:31:46Now, it's fascinating to see this,

0:31:46 > 0:31:48because when she went out to the Crimean War in the 1850s,

0:31:48 > 0:31:52she was not - she and her nurses - were not particularly welcomed

0:31:52 > 0:31:55by the Army medical establishment, were they?

0:31:55 > 0:31:59No, they weren't, they were looked on as interfering busybodies, really,

0:31:59 > 0:32:01and when they arrived on November 4th 1854,

0:32:01 > 0:32:06the Army really said, "Well, we haven't asked for you to come out."

0:32:06 > 0:32:08They'd been sent out from England

0:32:08 > 0:32:10and, as you say, they weren't welcomed at all.

0:32:10 > 0:32:13What Florence Nightingale proved was that so many men were dying,

0:32:13 > 0:32:15not from their injuries,

0:32:15 > 0:32:19but from infection and disease that followed the injuries

0:32:19 > 0:32:21that were incurred as a result of their stay in the hospital

0:32:21 > 0:32:24and that really put people's backs up, didn't it,

0:32:24 > 0:32:26- amongst the medical establishment? - Yes. It did.

0:32:26 > 0:32:3020,000 dead of the British Army, only 1,600 to enemy action.

0:32:30 > 0:32:34All the rest were disease and infection, mainly bowel diseases.

0:32:34 > 0:32:38- She made a remarkable difference, didn't she?- Yes, she did.

0:32:38 > 0:32:42It really...it took them away from the untrained medical orderly

0:32:42 > 0:32:47to the caring nurse, which of course still goes on today.

0:32:47 > 0:32:49Now what about this sash?

0:32:49 > 0:32:52This is Scutari Hospital which is where she and her nurses worked.

0:32:52 > 0:32:54Yes, Scutari Hospital, in Constantinople

0:32:54 > 0:32:57was where Lord Raglan said his hospital base was going to be.

0:32:57 > 0:33:00And of course they needed to identify these nurses

0:33:00 > 0:33:04from all the other ladies that were there in this old, barren hospital.

0:33:04 > 0:33:06Providing a different comfort?

0:33:06 > 0:33:08Providing a different sort of comfort, yes.

0:33:08 > 0:33:11And of course there were widows there, some of the wives still there.

0:33:11 > 0:33:14So it identified them as the nurses

0:33:14 > 0:33:16for when they wanted to get access to the wards.

0:33:16 > 0:33:19And so when people talk about Florence Nightingale -

0:33:19 > 0:33:20The Lady With The Lamp -

0:33:20 > 0:33:23she would be, I mean, is this a truthful image?

0:33:23 > 0:33:25They wouldn't allow any nurses on the wards at night -

0:33:25 > 0:33:27they said it wasn't a fit place -

0:33:27 > 0:33:31except her, to look at her sick and her wounded soldiers.

0:33:31 > 0:33:34Well, these are a testament to a remarkable woman,

0:33:34 > 0:33:36whose reforms we still feel the benefit of today.

0:33:36 > 0:33:38Yes, absolutely.

0:33:41 > 0:33:45It's so lovely to see such a wonderful collection

0:33:45 > 0:33:48of China-trade silver.

0:33:48 > 0:33:50Now, have you actually collected this yourself or...?

0:33:50 > 0:33:53No, it's all come to me through the family.

0:33:53 > 0:33:55Right.

0:33:55 > 0:33:58My mother's family lived in China for three generations.

0:33:58 > 0:33:59Wow!

0:33:59 > 0:34:03And it's silver that they collected while they lived there

0:34:03 > 0:34:06and this is what has come down to me.

0:34:06 > 0:34:10There were four sisters, my grandmother being one,

0:34:10 > 0:34:13so I've had the items that came from her.

0:34:13 > 0:34:16So this is a quarter of the collection?

0:34:16 > 0:34:18Presumably, yes.

0:34:18 > 0:34:19So whereabouts were they in China?

0:34:19 > 0:34:23- In Shanghai. - Ah, that's lovely to know

0:34:23 > 0:34:26because of course once the Chinese realised

0:34:26 > 0:34:28that Europeans loved silver,

0:34:28 > 0:34:33they started to make specifically for the European market

0:34:33 > 0:34:38and you can see this lovely sort of fusion of the two ideas.

0:34:38 > 0:34:40So, with this mug...

0:34:40 > 0:34:42I mean, nothing could be more English than a mug.

0:34:42 > 0:34:44Christening mug.

0:34:44 > 0:34:47It's got my grandmother's initials and the date of her birth,

0:34:47 > 0:34:50- the year of her birth. - Oh, that's super!

0:34:50 > 0:34:54Well, of course, entirely Chinese decoration on it,

0:34:54 > 0:34:59and they actually did develop a marking system

0:34:59 > 0:35:02which, of course, we can see just there.

0:35:02 > 0:35:08And, in this case, you've got both straightforward initials

0:35:08 > 0:35:13but you've also got the guy's name in Chinese characters.

0:35:13 > 0:35:18So I would tend to assume the pieces were from Shanghai.

0:35:18 > 0:35:21And you think of a tea service - tea being very Chinese -

0:35:21 > 0:35:26but the concept of a three-piece tea set isn't at all Chinese!

0:35:26 > 0:35:30The picture frame there. Those are very sought-after today.

0:35:30 > 0:35:33- Are they? - Yes, people really like those.

0:35:33 > 0:35:35The trade itself, of course,

0:35:35 > 0:35:40started to develop because of the people arriving to do business -

0:35:40 > 0:35:42the shippers, the diplomats -

0:35:42 > 0:35:45and there were the great China-trade ports -

0:35:45 > 0:35:49Hong Kong, Shanghai and Canton.

0:35:49 > 0:35:53And, of course, as your family were from Shanghai,

0:35:53 > 0:35:57well, there's no prizes for guessing where these pieces should be from.

0:35:57 > 0:36:01And the vast majority of these, we are looking at

0:36:01 > 0:36:03the latter part of the 19th century.

0:36:03 > 0:36:06So, I mean, a mug like this...

0:36:06 > 0:36:11- that on its own would easily be £500.- Really?

0:36:11 > 0:36:15And, similarly, the picture frame,

0:36:15 > 0:36:19- that's going to be £600-£700 quite easily.- Really?!

0:36:19 > 0:36:24And if you start totting this little lot up,

0:36:24 > 0:36:27I think you wouldn't get much change out of 10,000

0:36:27 > 0:36:29for what is actually on the table.

0:36:29 > 0:36:33Goodness! Wow, I'd better take care of it then!

0:36:33 > 0:36:36- Look after it. - Well, thank you very much.

0:36:39 > 0:36:41It's a great sign of the times

0:36:41 > 0:36:44when the BBC are creating memorabilia

0:36:44 > 0:36:46that appears on The Antiques Roadshow.

0:36:46 > 0:36:49Here we have a letter from the chief BBC announcer,

0:36:49 > 0:36:51the famous John Snagge,

0:36:51 > 0:36:53who was on the radio on a daily basis,

0:36:53 > 0:36:55pre, during and after the war.

0:36:55 > 0:36:57And it's written to a "Dear Frank".

0:36:57 > 0:37:00- Who's he? - Frank Phillips was my father.

0:37:00 > 0:37:03He was a BBC newsreader during the war

0:37:03 > 0:37:06and this letter is from John Snagge,

0:37:06 > 0:37:09enclosing quite an important script

0:37:09 > 0:37:13that he read on the morning of 6th June 1944.

0:37:13 > 0:37:16- That being D Day.- D Day.

0:37:16 > 0:37:18Well, that's an amazing archive find

0:37:18 > 0:37:22and so kind of him to give it back to your dad.

0:37:22 > 0:37:26So we've got four pages here, in script, not typed.

0:37:26 > 0:37:27That's quite strange, isn't it?

0:37:27 > 0:37:30I mean, I would have thought it would have been typed

0:37:30 > 0:37:32before being read out.

0:37:32 > 0:37:36Well, my understanding, from reading John Snagge's letter to my father,

0:37:36 > 0:37:39is that it was regarded as too confidential,

0:37:39 > 0:37:44because it was essentially announcing D Day, to entrust to any typist.

0:37:44 > 0:37:47And real men didn't type in those days

0:37:47 > 0:37:51and so it's a hand-written script.

0:37:51 > 0:37:54And it was such a secret, wasn't it? I mean,

0:37:54 > 0:37:56had the enemy had any inkling

0:37:56 > 0:37:59that we were heading towards Normandy rather than somewhere else,

0:37:59 > 0:38:02it could have been a completely different outcome.

0:38:02 > 0:38:04Absolutely, yes.

0:38:04 > 0:38:07So he must have been full of trepidation about the day,

0:38:07 > 0:38:10this important...

0:38:10 > 0:38:12And it says, "From the BBC in Great Britain,

0:38:12 > 0:38:14"we are sounding the alert

0:38:14 > 0:38:17"for the countries on the coastline

0:38:17 > 0:38:19"of Western Europe occupied by the enemy".

0:38:19 > 0:38:22Also, let alone the John Snagge,

0:38:22 > 0:38:26there's, I think, a copy of a really important document

0:38:26 > 0:38:30which is signed by Winston Churchill and Eisenhower.

0:38:30 > 0:38:33That's right. My understanding is that is the communique

0:38:33 > 0:38:36that my father was trailing, if you like,

0:38:36 > 0:38:39and that John Snagge read the communique itself,

0:38:39 > 0:38:43and I think it says here that it was signed by those two

0:38:43 > 0:38:48and given to John Snagge because he read that particular communique.

0:38:48 > 0:38:50So I'm not sure that his generosity

0:38:50 > 0:38:54extended to passing on the original signed communique.

0:38:54 > 0:38:56And I think what's also very evocative is...

0:38:56 > 0:38:58Obviously, during the war,

0:38:58 > 0:39:01the radio was such an important part of society,

0:39:01 > 0:39:04both here in the UK and presumably across Europe.

0:39:04 > 0:39:08As an example here, we've a letter addressed to your dad from Holland,

0:39:08 > 0:39:11and it goes on about how important it is for him.

0:39:11 > 0:39:14"Here is one out of the multitude of listeners

0:39:14 > 0:39:15"to your famous transmissions

0:39:15 > 0:39:18"during the five long years of enemy occupation."

0:39:18 > 0:39:21And it goes on to say how important it was in his life.

0:39:21 > 0:39:22It was indeed, yes.

0:39:22 > 0:39:25And, in fact, that particular individual

0:39:25 > 0:39:27named his son after my father,

0:39:27 > 0:39:31his first two Christian names are Frank Phillip.

0:39:31 > 0:39:35- Well, you can't get a better accolade than that, can you?- No.

0:39:35 > 0:39:37My goodness, what's it worth?

0:39:37 > 0:39:40That day was the turning point of the war, wasn't it?

0:39:40 > 0:39:42And an amazingly important transmission.

0:39:42 > 0:39:46It's unique, one's never been sold before.

0:39:46 > 0:39:48I'm sort of thinking about a figure of maybe...

0:39:48 > 0:39:50certainly a couple of thousand pounds.

0:39:50 > 0:39:55- Fine, well, I'm not selling it any time soon.- I'm glad to hear it.

0:39:55 > 0:39:58Thank you very much.

0:39:58 > 0:40:02Well, my first question is, what nationality do you suppose he is?

0:40:02 > 0:40:04That's a question I've wondered.

0:40:04 > 0:40:07- He's got a turban.- Yeah. - So he looks, could be Indian,

0:40:07 > 0:40:09but he's got a feather in it,

0:40:09 > 0:40:11so he might be sort of Arabian Nights type of thing?

0:40:11 > 0:40:16OK, well, I'm going to suggest he might be Turkish.

0:40:16 > 0:40:17Right.

0:40:17 > 0:40:20And do you know anything about him?

0:40:20 > 0:40:23Nothing apart from it used to belong to my grandmother

0:40:23 > 0:40:26and I don't know where and how and when she got it.

0:40:26 > 0:40:29I mean, he's got some age, and he's got some dents and scratches...

0:40:29 > 0:40:31- He has, yes.- ..and chips.

0:40:31 > 0:40:34And dents and scratches do rather affect this material.

0:40:34 > 0:40:37This material is known as Delftware,

0:40:37 > 0:40:42which is a earthenware covered in a skin of white glaze

0:40:42 > 0:40:45- which is then - in this case - decorated in blue.- Right.

0:40:45 > 0:40:48To the untrained eye, this looks like porcelain,

0:40:48 > 0:40:50because we associate blue and white with porcelain.

0:40:50 > 0:40:54And that's actually what these potters were trying to achieve,

0:40:54 > 0:40:57they were competing with China.

0:40:57 > 0:41:02But there's a reason for him being a Turk and the clue is here.

0:41:02 > 0:41:05Have you worked out what these are for - these holes?

0:41:05 > 0:41:07Well, they look as if they should have flowers in them

0:41:07 > 0:41:09but it's a rather peculiar flower vase

0:41:09 > 0:41:12that's got a head in the middle of it.

0:41:12 > 0:41:15OK, now, let's just put all of that together.

0:41:15 > 0:41:19So, he is a Turk, but he's made in Delftware

0:41:19 > 0:41:22and in fact Delftware is, of course, Dutch, generally speaking.

0:41:22 > 0:41:24Right.

0:41:24 > 0:41:28What flowers would you associate with Delft or Holland?

0:41:28 > 0:41:30Tulips.

0:41:30 > 0:41:35Tulips, and we've got there, because tulips were developed by Turks.

0:41:35 > 0:41:39- Oh!- So it's entirely appropriate that a vase intended for tulips

0:41:39 > 0:41:42should be modelled in the form of a Turk,

0:41:42 > 0:41:45and tulips were extremely popular in the 1620s-30s,

0:41:45 > 0:41:47there was a tulip mania.

0:41:47 > 0:41:52- Yeah, yeah.- But ever since then, vases like this have been made.

0:41:52 > 0:41:54You can go out and buy them in the shops in Holland today

0:41:54 > 0:41:58and you can buy them and they generally have a maker's mark -

0:41:58 > 0:42:01such as this one on the back -

0:42:01 > 0:42:05imitating the early Delftware pieces.

0:42:05 > 0:42:07Now, the question is,

0:42:07 > 0:42:09is this an early Delftware piece

0:42:09 > 0:42:14or is it one of the many, many, many copies. We see lots and lots.

0:42:14 > 0:42:18It's quite difficult sometimes to make up one's mind.

0:42:18 > 0:42:20I'm sure you would like it to be an original

0:42:20 > 0:42:24and I would love to be able to tell you that it was an original.

0:42:24 > 0:42:27- However...- 17th-century would be nice.- ..it looks too good to be true

0:42:27 > 0:42:30and looking in the bottom there, there's a sort of nice rough patch.

0:42:30 > 0:42:34There's not a great deal of wear. Is he a copy?

0:42:35 > 0:42:40As a copy, this is worth somewhere in the region of £500-£1,000.

0:42:40 > 0:42:42- Really?- Yeah.

0:42:42 > 0:42:45Ah, fabulous, well.

0:42:45 > 0:42:46Perhaps I like him a bit more now.

0:42:46 > 0:42:49- You do?- Yes.- Um...

0:42:49 > 0:42:52Actually, I don't think it is a copy.

0:42:52 > 0:42:53So we'll bump it up a bit.

0:42:53 > 0:42:56Shall we say somewhere between £20,000 and £30,000?

0:42:56 > 0:43:00No! I wasn't going to do the gasp, but I've gasped!

0:43:01 > 0:43:03Hmm.

0:43:03 > 0:43:07Well, I think it's fair to say, another satisfied customer.

0:43:07 > 0:43:11From The Antiques Roadshow team, until next time, bye-bye.

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