0:00:44 > 0:00:47This week the Antiques Roadshow returns to Wiltshire,
0:00:47 > 0:00:49but there's something big missing.
0:00:49 > 0:00:50Any ideas?
0:00:50 > 0:00:52It's the house itself.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55The original Bowood House near Chippenham was razed to the ground
0:00:55 > 0:00:57in the 1950s, and what you see now,
0:00:57 > 0:01:01gorgeous though it is, is simply a type of conservatory, an orangery.
0:01:03 > 0:01:05In its heyday, this Wiltshire estate,
0:01:05 > 0:01:07home to the Marquises of Lansdowne,
0:01:07 > 0:01:09would have employed dozens of servants.
0:01:09 > 0:01:14With 90 rooms, Bowood House was large enough to rival any in the country.
0:01:14 > 0:01:18The upstairs-downstairs lifestyle of much of the aristocracy
0:01:18 > 0:01:21became unsustainable during the early part of the 20th century.
0:01:21 > 0:01:24Death duties and the loss of many heirs
0:01:24 > 0:01:27and the men who worked on the estates during the two World Wars,
0:01:27 > 0:01:30meant that life had changed.
0:01:30 > 0:01:34The great houses became white elephants in danger of extinction.
0:01:34 > 0:01:38When the bulldozers pulled up at Bowood in 1955
0:01:38 > 0:01:41to demolish the main house, it was the end of an era.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43The family had already been living in
0:01:43 > 0:01:46what was known as the "little house" for many years,
0:01:46 > 0:01:48as the main house became dilapidated,
0:01:48 > 0:01:51and, wisely, they saved as many treasures as possible.
0:01:53 > 0:01:56These days, while the Marquis of Lansdowne still lives at Bowood,
0:01:56 > 0:02:00the majority of the house is dedicated to a museum and gallery.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03And the family's precious art collection has been shared with visitors
0:02:03 > 0:02:06since the house opened its doors to the public in the mid 1970s.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13For a small house, Bowood has a big reputation.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16In fact when our experts heard we were coming here,
0:02:16 > 0:02:17there was a real buzz of excitement.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20There's something to please everyone in the collection.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23Fine diamond jewellery, Indian antiques,
0:02:23 > 0:02:28museum-quality porcelain, even Queen Victoria's wedding chair.
0:02:28 > 0:02:31It sounds like the perfect fantasy Roadshow.
0:02:32 > 0:02:35With finds like those vying for our expert attention, let's hope
0:02:35 > 0:02:40today's visitors to the Antiques Roadshow come up with the goods.
0:02:40 > 0:02:44You brought in this tiny little box and...are many, many questions.
0:02:44 > 0:02:46Now, hopefully on the Antiques Roadshow
0:02:46 > 0:02:48we can answer most questions, but I think with this one,
0:02:48 > 0:02:50I'm going to be at a bit of a loss.
0:02:50 > 0:02:53But tell me its history to begin with.
0:02:53 > 0:02:56OK. Well, I brought this in on behalf of my father.
0:02:56 > 0:02:58He bought it with my late mother,
0:02:58 > 0:03:01it was one of the first things they bought when they were married
0:03:01 > 0:03:05and he bought it from Petticoat Lane in London for about £20 or £30,
0:03:05 > 0:03:07which was quite a lot of money for him then.
0:03:07 > 0:03:09And they just found it really enchanting
0:03:09 > 0:03:11because there's a code on one of the sides,
0:03:11 > 0:03:14a sort of numerical code that he's never been able to crack.
0:03:14 > 0:03:18And we just wondered really what the story was about it.
0:03:18 > 0:03:22Good. OK, well, let's get some clues.
0:03:22 > 0:03:29It's got a name on the top, which I read as J Jones.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32Now, that was the person who probably gave it.
0:03:32 > 0:03:35Because every time you took it out and used it
0:03:35 > 0:03:37you would remember that particular person.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41If you open the lid, and there's a little compartment in there.
0:03:41 > 0:03:44Could be for snuff it's quite airtight,
0:03:44 > 0:03:46could be for something else.
0:03:46 > 0:03:49But there's another clue if you open up the back,
0:03:49 > 0:03:51there's another similar compartment
0:03:51 > 0:03:55with a glass panel on it and just a trace of silvering.
0:03:55 > 0:03:57So I think that's a mirror.
0:03:57 > 0:03:59So what would you need a mirror for?
0:03:59 > 0:04:01Something cosmetic?
0:04:01 > 0:04:02Spot on!
0:04:02 > 0:04:05So it could be for rouge, or for patches.
0:04:05 > 0:04:11OK. In the 18th century, patches were used to cover up pock marks,
0:04:11 > 0:04:14if you had a blemish on your face,
0:04:14 > 0:04:18or they were used in order to signify if you were married or not.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21So if you had a patch on the left cheek or the right cheek
0:04:21 > 0:04:23meant you were either engaged or married.
0:04:23 > 0:04:27If it was beside your eye it's meant you were passionate.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30And if it was in your forehead, it means you were quite serious.
0:04:30 > 0:04:33So it was a code, you talk about codes,
0:04:33 > 0:04:37it was a code to actually signify socially where you stood
0:04:37 > 0:04:39without actually having to ask somebody or chat them up,
0:04:39 > 0:04:42you immediately knew if they were married or not.
0:04:42 > 0:04:44So, fascinating thing. What I really like, though,
0:04:44 > 0:04:48is the motto that goes round the outside.
0:04:48 > 0:04:52Yes, it says, something like, "The ring is round and hath no end,
0:04:52 > 0:04:54"so unto my love, now my friend,"
0:04:54 > 0:04:57or the other way round, but something along those lines.
0:04:57 > 0:04:59So I think that answers many of the questions.
0:04:59 > 0:05:04We also know the date, because it's here on the top - 1785.
0:05:04 > 0:05:06And then it's got a chain of numbers.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09Now that's the enigma. What is that?
0:05:09 > 0:05:11Maybe it's his mobile phone number.
0:05:11 > 0:05:12CHUCKLES
0:05:12 > 0:05:15So that's a question I cannot answer.
0:05:15 > 0:05:19What is it? A patch box, but also a love token.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21So how apt that it was a present
0:05:21 > 0:05:23- from your father to your late mother.- Yes.
0:05:23 > 0:05:27How enchanting. Lots of sentimental value.
0:05:27 > 0:05:31Commercially, probably £800 to £1,200 today.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33Gosh, that's a shock.
0:05:33 > 0:05:36I'm sure my dad will be pleased, but it really is
0:05:36 > 0:05:39the sort of, I think the sentimental value more than anything.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41Brilliant.
0:05:41 > 0:05:44We have the archetypal piece of local interest here.
0:05:44 > 0:05:47Devizes Comprehensive, Wiltshire.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49And this caption to this cartoon reads,
0:05:49 > 0:05:51"Miss Hoskins, you know we're not allowed
0:05:51 > 0:05:53"to use the cane in the school!"
0:05:53 > 0:05:57And here is Miss Hoskins, nearly naked with a cane
0:05:57 > 0:06:01and there's a poor... What is it, a lion?
0:06:01 > 0:06:07Yes. In 1980, April 1980, when I was a student at Devizes School,
0:06:07 > 0:06:10I am a current member of staff at Devizes School also...
0:06:10 > 0:06:11Right.
0:06:11 > 0:06:14..two lions escaped from the circus.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17From the circus, of course, in Devizes, there's that big green.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19- The green, next door to school.- Yes.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21And the obvious place for lions to wander
0:06:21 > 0:06:25when they've escaped is a school, and they came into school
0:06:25 > 0:06:29during a lunch break and obviously caused havoc.
0:06:30 > 0:06:34- To say the least!- Yes, and managed to find their way into two classrooms
0:06:34 > 0:06:36where students were eating their lunch
0:06:36 > 0:06:41and eventually were rounded up by members of staff,
0:06:41 > 0:06:46shut into classrooms, the circus staff came and rescued them.
0:06:46 > 0:06:47And who owned the circus?
0:06:47 > 0:06:49It was Sally Chipperfield's circus.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52I think there's a little piece on there, there's a little poster.
0:06:52 > 0:06:55Oh Sally Chipperfield's Circus, school visit.
0:06:55 > 0:06:57Yeah. And in those days... Yeah, school visit, yeah!
0:06:57 > 0:07:00- I love it, I love it.- It was, yeah!
0:07:00 > 0:07:03In those days they still had wild animals in the circus.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06- Well, it's by JAK, of course, the great cartoonist...- Yes.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08- ..of the Evening Standard.- Right.
0:07:08 > 0:07:12Raymond Jackson was his name and he... Oh, he was,
0:07:12 > 0:07:14he was doing these for about 30-odd years.
0:07:14 > 0:07:16And it's almost, it's rather like,
0:07:16 > 0:07:18- Giles-like, do you remember Giles...- Yes.
0:07:18 > 0:07:20- ..who did all those wonderful cartoons of schools?- Yep.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24- Are the teachers something like this today, do you think?- Well...
0:07:24 > 0:07:26- The sort of...- Similar!
0:07:26 > 0:07:30Terribly inelegant, isn't it? I think it's absolutely wonderful.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32And so, the lions, they didn't eat any of the children?
0:07:32 > 0:07:36No, the only casualty, apparently, was a cheese and pickle sandwich.
0:07:36 > 0:07:40- Oh, yeah. - Oh, I think it's a wonderful story
0:07:40 > 0:07:42and this sits in pride of place in the school.
0:07:42 > 0:07:43Yes, in the school reception area.
0:07:43 > 0:07:46- And you're going to ask me to value it, aren't you?- Yes.
0:07:46 > 0:07:49Well, JAK cartoons, he's one of the greats in the 20th century.
0:07:49 > 0:07:50He was an emotional man.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53One of his signatures, actually, is three fingers.
0:07:53 > 0:07:55- Right.- Known as three-fingered JAK.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- If you notice, everybody's got three fingers.- Oh, yes, yes.
0:07:58 > 0:08:00They've only got three fingers.
0:08:00 > 0:08:03- Anyway, all his cartoons, three fingers.- Yeah.
0:08:03 > 0:08:07So, I'm going to value this somewhere between £300 and £500.
0:08:07 > 0:08:09- Wow.- Lock it up.
0:08:09 > 0:08:11Yes. We'll nail it to the wall.
0:08:11 > 0:08:13- It's a great piece. - It's lovely, yeah.
0:08:13 > 0:08:15- Thank you. - Thank you ever so much. Thank you.
0:08:17 > 0:08:25Well, it's the original box of a Christmas present to my grandmother
0:08:25 > 0:08:30from her prospective husband, containing a Royal Worcester basket.
0:08:30 > 0:08:31Oh, how fantastic.
0:08:31 > 0:08:35For Christmas 1914.
0:08:35 > 0:08:38And look at this, "Porcelain, with great care,
0:08:38 > 0:08:42"from the Royal Worcester Porcelain Company Ltd, Worcester. Fragile."
0:08:42 > 0:08:45Obviously the address there. This is so lovely.
0:08:45 > 0:08:47December the 21st.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49- Oh, I love this. I mean...- '14.
0:08:49 > 0:08:52..don't get me wrong, I would love to know the contents of this box,
0:08:52 > 0:08:56but I would be depriving the Sandons of that moment.
0:08:56 > 0:09:00Well, I think that they are going to be very excited to see this later.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03- Oh, good.- A really nice thing and a really lovely survivor,
0:09:03 > 0:09:06- and later, we'll see what's in there as well.- Good.
0:09:06 > 0:09:07- Thank you ever so much.- Thank you.
0:09:10 > 0:09:14A pair of goats pulling a chariot. How long have you known them?
0:09:14 > 0:09:17I've known them most of my life.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19They were in my grandmother's house when I first went there
0:09:19 > 0:09:21when I was about aged ten.
0:09:21 > 0:09:24And they were on top of a desk in the drawing room.
0:09:24 > 0:09:26And my grandmother died and my mother put them
0:09:26 > 0:09:29on the top of the desk in her drawing room.
0:09:29 > 0:09:30And my mother died
0:09:30 > 0:09:33and I've got them on the top of a desk in my drawing room.
0:09:33 > 0:09:35So it's... But I know very little about them,
0:09:35 > 0:09:38apart from fact that they belonged to my grandmother.
0:09:38 > 0:09:40What kind of woman was your grandmother?
0:09:40 > 0:09:43She was very Victorian, very austere, very straight
0:09:43 > 0:09:47and, sadly, I never knew my grandfather,
0:09:47 > 0:09:50but she was not the person to be argued with.
0:09:50 > 0:09:54OK. And so do you feel these reflect her as a person?
0:09:54 > 0:09:55LAUGHTER
0:09:55 > 0:09:58Not really, because they're known in the family
0:09:58 > 0:10:03as the loony goats, and my grandmother wasn't a loony goat,
0:10:03 > 0:10:05I'm afraid, no way.
0:10:05 > 0:10:07Have you ever looked at how they're made?
0:10:07 > 0:10:09Well, they seem a bit, sort of, cheap to me,
0:10:09 > 0:10:12- they're sort of pressed, there's no...- That's right.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15..there's no substance to them, they're not solid.
0:10:15 > 0:10:18They're very, as you say, they're quite insubstantially made,
0:10:18 > 0:10:21- they're just stamped out of sheet metal.- Yep.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25And then part of it, the chariot, has been gilded
0:10:25 > 0:10:28and the goats themselves plated,
0:10:28 > 0:10:30which is why they've tarnished,
0:10:30 > 0:10:33but the good thing is, nobody's ever really tried to clean it.
0:10:33 > 0:10:35But, yes, it's very insubstantial
0:10:35 > 0:10:38and I'm sort of amazed that they've managed to, sort of,
0:10:38 > 0:10:41stay intact with all the little bits of wire around them.
0:10:41 > 0:10:43- There is a glass dome that goes over the top of it.- Yes.
0:10:43 > 0:10:47And somebody suggested the glass dome might be worth more than they are. I don't know.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50- And do you know what this is? - Well, it's a scent bottle.
0:10:50 > 0:10:51It's a scent bottle, yes.
0:10:51 > 0:10:56It's just a very decorative way of making a holder for a scent bottle.
0:10:56 > 0:11:01The bottle itself is green glass, with gilt paint
0:11:01 > 0:11:04and, really, it doesn't look as though it's ever been used, does it?
0:11:04 > 0:11:08- No.- And so they were made in France around 1890,
0:11:08 > 0:11:10a real little French frivolity.
0:11:10 > 0:11:14Either someone in your family might have gone out there
0:11:14 > 0:11:17and bought them or they might have been exported to England
0:11:17 > 0:11:21- and sold as a rather exotic sort of decorative little item.- Yes.
0:11:21 > 0:11:26- As a novelty they're worth about £300.- Oh, never, surely.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30I mean, to me they're just sort of two loony goats, they're...
0:11:30 > 0:11:32£300! Right.
0:11:32 > 0:11:33Thank you very much.
0:11:35 > 0:11:37I really love objects
0:11:37 > 0:11:41that encapsulate the time and place they were intended for
0:11:41 > 0:11:43and looking at this collection here,
0:11:43 > 0:11:47that could only really be America in the 1950s.
0:11:47 > 0:11:49I've always been a collector and I like...
0:11:49 > 0:11:51Particularly I'm interested in design history
0:11:51 > 0:11:54and I love the style of them,
0:11:54 > 0:11:56and also the fact that they're functional, they work, so...
0:11:56 > 0:11:59- So you actually listen to them, too? - I listen to nearly all of them,
0:11:59 > 0:12:02I have them in all different rooms of the house.
0:12:02 > 0:12:05Much to my wife's irritation, because although I have about 100,
0:12:05 > 0:12:07she can't listen to The Archers on any of them
0:12:07 > 0:12:12because that's broadcast on long wave and these are all medium wave.
0:12:12 > 0:12:13Of course, of course.
0:12:13 > 0:12:17It's a... From a design perspective, as you were saying,
0:12:17 > 0:12:19it's a very interesting collection
0:12:19 > 0:12:23because these are more than just objects of technology.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25They're also objects of fashion.
0:12:25 > 0:12:30The pocket transistor radio is completely contemporary with
0:12:30 > 0:12:33the arrival of the teenager in American society.
0:12:33 > 0:12:35The first transistor radios
0:12:35 > 0:12:39were manufactured in the States from 1954.
0:12:39 > 0:12:441956, the Japanese get in on the act and they really make it their own.
0:12:44 > 0:12:47I think I'm correct in saying that the majority that we have here
0:12:47 > 0:12:48are actually Japanese models.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50They are indeed, yes.
0:12:50 > 0:12:54And I think the Japanese, really, why they become so successful
0:12:54 > 0:12:58is because they've got this mastery of producing decorative things.
0:12:58 > 0:13:00And we've got this lovely example here,
0:13:00 > 0:13:05Bulova, with atomic age styling on the dial, lovely cream body
0:13:05 > 0:13:08and this chrome highlight there,
0:13:08 > 0:13:12which really recalls 1950s automobile design.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15They're also quite telling of the period
0:13:15 > 0:13:17in which they were made politically.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20Now, I gather some of these markings, these arrows on the dial
0:13:20 > 0:13:23of the Bulova have a particular meaning.
0:13:23 > 0:13:24Can you tell me more about those?
0:13:24 > 0:13:27Yes, it was the Cold War period in America
0:13:27 > 0:13:30and it was deemed by the government that these arrows indicated
0:13:30 > 0:13:32the frequency you had to tune into
0:13:32 > 0:13:37- for important announcements in the event of a nuclear war.- Wow.
0:13:37 > 0:13:40In case the Russians shut down all the other stations,
0:13:40 > 0:13:42that you would get your announcements
0:13:42 > 0:13:44on those points on the wavelength.
0:13:44 > 0:13:46They are really lovely things,
0:13:46 > 0:13:49and of course we move from these objects of real finesse, actually -
0:13:49 > 0:13:52the Bulova especially is really quite a stylish piece -
0:13:52 > 0:13:54to the more novelty.
0:13:54 > 0:13:58I mean, this is pure kitsch of 1950s America, it really is, the owl.
0:13:58 > 0:14:02- Wonderful piece, with these eyes that light up...- They do light up
0:14:02 > 0:14:04- when you're tuning it. - ..when it's used.
0:14:04 > 0:14:07It's not going to show up in the sunlight.
0:14:07 > 0:14:11But a really lovely fun thing. Moving on to value.
0:14:11 > 0:14:13I mean, these vary quite dramatically,
0:14:13 > 0:14:18probably the Bulova is the most valuable, about £200 to £300.
0:14:18 > 0:14:21The other examples, roughly £100 each.
0:14:21 > 0:14:24I think just the novelty value of this alone
0:14:24 > 0:14:26gives it that kind of value.
0:14:26 > 0:14:28But it is a lovely, lovely collection.
0:14:28 > 0:14:31In fact, this is quite a nice one here. How do you switch this on?
0:14:31 > 0:14:33RADIO CRACKLES
0:14:37 > 0:14:41Very seldom do I see something on the Roadshow that I actually own myself,
0:14:41 > 0:14:42but I've got one of these at home
0:14:42 > 0:14:45and it's a great piece of amusement, isn't it? Still.
0:14:45 > 0:14:46The grandchildren love it.
0:14:46 > 0:14:48What's this circuit board?
0:14:48 > 0:14:51OK, this is part of the RCA 110, this was the launch computer
0:14:51 > 0:14:54- that launched the Saturn Vs that went to the moon.- Oh, my God.
0:14:54 > 0:14:56It says in here, "Wheel of Life,"
0:14:56 > 0:14:58we probably know it better as a zoetrope.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01But what it is, actually, is an optical toy
0:15:01 > 0:15:04through which you get this magic of movement.
0:15:04 > 0:15:05So what about these, these parts here?
0:15:05 > 0:15:08- So these are parts of the Saturn V itself.- Right.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10The Saturn V was split into multiple stages
0:15:10 > 0:15:12and one of the stages had a computer circuit ring in it
0:15:12 > 0:15:15and these are parts of the computer that was on that.
0:15:15 > 0:15:17- So these are proper space-flown pieces.- Absolutely.
0:15:17 > 0:15:21William Horner, and he was the guy responsible...
0:15:21 > 0:15:23- Yeah.- ..in the 1830s. Local lad, wasn't he, Horner?
0:15:23 > 0:15:26He was born in Bath and he died in Bristol.
0:15:26 > 0:15:29I'm an astronomer and I used to work for the European Space Agency
0:15:29 > 0:15:32- and I've also done some writing work for NASA.- Right.
0:15:32 > 0:15:34And I've met a lot of the Apollo moon walkers.
0:15:34 > 0:15:38And value, with all these strips here,
0:15:38 > 0:15:41I put it at around £500 to £700.
0:15:41 > 0:15:43Nice, yeah, yeah, but it's not for sale.
0:15:43 > 0:15:47Well, fortunately I've got one, so I don't need another!
0:15:47 > 0:15:50Space memorabilia is just going up and up and up.
0:15:50 > 0:15:55And I reckon there's probably £2,000 or £3,000 worth of material here.
0:15:55 > 0:15:57- Oh, wow.- Without too much trouble.
0:15:57 > 0:15:58- Wow.- It's just brilliant.
0:15:58 > 0:16:01What have we got here? Oh, we've got
0:16:01 > 0:16:04the man who takes his head off and passes it along.
0:16:11 > 0:16:13This is a most extraordinary box,
0:16:13 > 0:16:15I haven't seen one of these for a long time.
0:16:15 > 0:16:19Made by the porcelain works at Worcester for sending things in.
0:16:19 > 0:16:21How did you come by it?
0:16:21 > 0:16:24Well, it's the box of a Christmas present
0:16:24 > 0:16:28to my grandmother for Christmas 1914.
0:16:28 > 0:16:32A Miss A Venton was your...
0:16:32 > 0:16:34- My grandmother. - Your grandmother.- Yes.
0:16:34 > 0:16:39I say. It's come all the way from Worcester, and what does it contain?
0:16:39 > 0:16:41It's a Royal Worcester porcelain basket.
0:16:44 > 0:16:47That's the box and here is the basket.
0:16:47 > 0:16:48That's the basket.
0:16:48 > 0:16:52My word, there we are, and with a flower basket
0:16:52 > 0:16:57for putting flowers in, you put roses or daffs or whatever you want
0:16:57 > 0:17:00into the basket and it's absolutely beautiful, isn't it?
0:17:00 > 0:17:03They made a number of these, these are quite a common shape,
0:17:03 > 0:17:07I see these quite often, but it's very nice.
0:17:07 > 0:17:11Do you think the present of this led to the wedding?
0:17:11 > 0:17:13I'm sure it helped, yes.
0:17:13 > 0:17:18Well, God bless the basket and, value, of course it's in...
0:17:18 > 0:17:22inestimable in the family, isn't it, because this led to you eventually.
0:17:22 > 0:17:23Eventually, yes.
0:17:23 > 0:17:27But in value, ah, about £300, £400.
0:17:27 > 0:17:32- Oh, right, yeah.- The box is probably more valuable than the pot.
0:17:32 > 0:17:36But it's wonderful, thank you so very much for bringing it in.
0:17:36 > 0:17:39Oh, good. I'm glad you're interested in it. Thank you.
0:17:39 > 0:17:42What's the significance of bees, Lady Lansdowne?
0:17:42 > 0:17:44Well, the bees I collect
0:17:44 > 0:17:48because Sir William Petty, his crest was a bee hive.
0:17:48 > 0:17:51So, the Petty Bees have always been part of our family crest.
0:17:51 > 0:17:53And Sir William Petty?
0:17:53 > 0:17:55Sir William Petty was Cromwell's Chancellor.
0:17:57 > 0:17:59So bees have always been a very potent symbol.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01A busy bee is a potent symbol.
0:18:01 > 0:18:03Busy bees, indeed. And you like wearing them?
0:18:03 > 0:18:06I love wearing them. I have lots of them and I scatter them
0:18:06 > 0:18:09all round sort of randomly in a rather bizarre way.
0:18:09 > 0:18:11Interesting word, scatter.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14Because these things were made at the end of the Victorian period,
0:18:14 > 0:18:17in fact, your two bees that you have here are late Victorian.
0:18:17 > 0:18:20Classic late Victorian designs. Gold and silver,
0:18:20 > 0:18:24studded with diamonds in the wings and in the body,
0:18:24 > 0:18:27except that what's interesting is that one of the bees is set
0:18:27 > 0:18:31with rubies and one of the bees is set with sapphires.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34They're nearly identical, but not quite.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37As far as the question of scatter,
0:18:37 > 0:18:40it's an interesting thing also to note that they're always going to
0:18:40 > 0:18:45be worn on your dress, but also they were worn on things like parasols.
0:18:45 > 0:18:46Oh, interesting.
0:18:46 > 0:18:50So, they were called scatterbugs and you would scatter them
0:18:50 > 0:18:52all over your clothes and on your accessories.
0:18:52 > 0:18:55So, if, can you imagine if you're walking down the road
0:18:55 > 0:18:57and you've got this bug on your parasol,
0:18:57 > 0:18:58"Oh, my goodness me, look at that."
0:18:58 > 0:19:01- and it becomes a little conversation piece.- A-ha.
0:19:01 > 0:19:04You get the idea. The other way these are worn
0:19:04 > 0:19:06is worth pointing out, this ruby and diamond one
0:19:06 > 0:19:09in its original fitted box, if we lift up the block,
0:19:09 > 0:19:11we notice it's got the original... Did you know that?
0:19:11 > 0:19:13No, I didn't know that was in there.
0:19:13 > 0:19:16- Well, that is a hair comb fitting. - Oh, really?
0:19:16 > 0:19:20In other words, you would screw the hair comb fitting to the back
0:19:20 > 0:19:24of the bee, and you would put it at the back of your bun.
0:19:24 > 0:19:25And you'd look fabulous.
0:19:25 > 0:19:28And there it would tremble, naturalistically.
0:19:28 > 0:19:31The Victorians were very practical people.
0:19:31 > 0:19:36Right, if they were being sold together, as two bees,
0:19:36 > 0:19:39you would be looking at £12,000 to £15,000 today.
0:19:39 > 0:19:41Well, they're not going anywhere...
0:19:41 > 0:19:43- I doubted that they would. - ..because I love them.
0:19:43 > 0:19:45I doubt that they would.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48- But I can tell you they're very nice bees.- Thank you.
0:19:48 > 0:19:52My grandparents travelled extensively, pre-war,
0:19:52 > 0:19:56and obviously ended up in Cairo at one point, and my grandfather,
0:19:56 > 0:19:59who loved to collect beautiful things, bought this canopic jar.
0:19:59 > 0:20:01Yeah, well, I collect scarabs
0:20:01 > 0:20:03but I never had the luck to find one of these.
0:20:03 > 0:20:06But as you know, as you've just said, it's a canopic jar
0:20:06 > 0:20:10and you probably know these jars were put in the tombs
0:20:10 > 0:20:15of embalmed bodies with the embalmed vital organs
0:20:15 > 0:20:16inside each one of them,
0:20:16 > 0:20:19- because there were four, this is one of four.- Oh.
0:20:19 > 0:20:23And each one of the four jars would have had a different head
0:20:23 > 0:20:26representing one of the four sons of Horus,
0:20:26 > 0:20:32and Horus was one of the most important gods in the Egyptian pantheon of deities.
0:20:32 > 0:20:34And he was like a sky god,
0:20:34 > 0:20:38and as you've probably heard of the eye of Horus, the Wedjat eye,
0:20:38 > 0:20:41well, this is one of his sons.
0:20:41 > 0:20:43And this son is called Imsety.
0:20:43 > 0:20:46- And this one would have contained the liver.- Oh.
0:20:46 > 0:20:52And they left the heart actually in the mummified body
0:20:52 > 0:20:55because they believed that the heart could be tested
0:20:55 > 0:20:57to see if the person had had a good life
0:20:57 > 0:21:00and they tested it by weighing it with a feather,
0:21:00 > 0:21:03and if the heart was lighter than the feather,
0:21:03 > 0:21:05then they'd had a good life
0:21:05 > 0:21:08and they could pass through into the next world.
0:21:08 > 0:21:11And they're usually either made of alabaster,
0:21:11 > 0:21:15calcite or limestone and this one's alabaster as...
0:21:15 > 0:21:17This is the receipt, isn't it, for it?
0:21:17 > 0:21:19- Yes, yes.- From what date was this?
0:21:19 > 0:21:23- 1935.- 1935, this is really good provenance.
0:21:23 > 0:21:26And it's from an antiquities merchant called
0:21:26 > 0:21:31Abd El-baki Aly El Gabry, excuse my pronunciation.
0:21:31 > 0:21:32Better than mine.
0:21:32 > 0:21:37It says here, "The undersigned Abd Baki Aly El Gabry hereby
0:21:37 > 0:21:42"declares solemnly that the under-mentioned antiquities
0:21:42 > 0:21:46"have been sold to EJ Saville of Cairo."
0:21:46 > 0:21:48- My grandfather. - That's your grandfather.
0:21:48 > 0:21:52And the top piece here is the alabaster canopic jar,
0:21:52 > 0:21:56sold for £5 sterling in 1935.
0:21:56 > 0:21:58That's remarkable, to have that.
0:21:58 > 0:22:03Um, this type is usually from the 19th dynasty,
0:22:03 > 0:22:07that's about 1290 BC to 1180 BC.
0:22:07 > 0:22:10- That's the time of Ramses and Set.- OK.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12So, if it's confirmed, and I'm sure it is,
0:22:12 > 0:22:16that it's from that date, it could make £4,500
0:22:16 > 0:22:20and it could possibly make more.
0:22:20 > 0:22:23Gosh, that's amazing. I hadn't expected that.
0:22:26 > 0:22:28This is a kind of a magic moment, really
0:22:28 > 0:22:30because I know the story here,
0:22:30 > 0:22:32and you've got all this sea of faces
0:22:32 > 0:22:35and we're about to start talking about your dad.
0:22:35 > 0:22:37- That's right, Andy, yes. - And it's magic.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40Come on, off you go, tell us about your dad.
0:22:40 > 0:22:42Well, this is my dad, Samuel Bachelor.
0:22:42 > 0:22:49He was born in 1898, and at age 15 he was apprenticed to
0:22:49 > 0:22:53Royal Brierley Crystal in Brierley Hill where I was also born.
0:22:53 > 0:22:56- Stourbridge.- Part of Stourbridge Glass, that's right.
0:22:56 > 0:23:01Unfortunately he was called up for World War I service,
0:23:01 > 0:23:05where he was unfortunately gassed and a POW.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08So when he came back to work, he was always short of breath.
0:23:08 > 0:23:13But he continued work, and in 1939, Steven and Williams
0:23:13 > 0:23:18or Royal Brierley Crystal, brought out a prototype,
0:23:18 > 0:23:21and there were only three made.
0:23:21 > 0:23:27One went to King George VI, the other went to Saudi Arabia
0:23:27 > 0:23:32and this one was on my father's bench when World War II broke out.
0:23:32 > 0:23:38The factory closed, it didn't reopen until 1947.
0:23:38 > 0:23:42And when he got back to his bench, there was this.
0:23:42 > 0:23:44So he took it home with him.
0:23:44 > 0:23:45And I have it.
0:23:47 > 0:23:48Isn't it magic?
0:23:48 > 0:23:52This is part of his work, it's called intaglio,
0:23:52 > 0:23:55which is not quite the same as a deep cut.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00He was presented, after 40 years' service,
0:24:00 > 0:24:02with this wonderful vase.
0:24:02 > 0:24:04VASE CHIMES
0:24:04 > 0:24:06And with a fat pension, of course.
0:24:06 > 0:24:12No pension at all, he retired, sadly he only lived four years
0:24:12 > 0:24:16after his retirement because his breath wasn't very good.
0:24:16 > 0:24:19Well, bearing in mind, I mean, many of those who were
0:24:19 > 0:24:22gassed in the First World War never made it back to anywhere.
0:24:22 > 0:24:25Fortunately he made it home, otherwise I wouldn't be here.
0:24:25 > 0:24:28Yeah. So you're telling the story about this.
0:24:28 > 0:24:32I'm telling the story about my dad, Samuel Bachelor,
0:24:32 > 0:24:34and I'm Brian Bachelor.
0:24:34 > 0:24:37Well, it's very nice to have you here, Brian, sweet.
0:24:37 > 0:24:40Well, look, what we're talking about is really this enormous...
0:24:40 > 0:24:44Your dad is a representative of this enormous number
0:24:44 > 0:24:46of highly skilled craftsmen...
0:24:46 > 0:24:47That's right.
0:24:47 > 0:24:52..who were employed in 100,000 industries across this country
0:24:52 > 0:24:55as engineers or body shop painters...
0:24:55 > 0:24:58- Correct.- ..or gilders or... - That's right.
0:24:58 > 0:25:00..intaglio glass engravers.
0:25:00 > 0:25:04And the method for intaglio is different, as you say, to cutting.
0:25:04 > 0:25:06- This is cut crystal. - Yes, yes, he had...
0:25:06 > 0:25:10- But this is intaglio cut crystal. - Intaglio crystal.
0:25:10 > 0:25:14And what you did is, on these they used rotating wheels.
0:25:14 > 0:25:18That's right, he sat at his workbench like that.
0:25:18 > 0:25:22And he could print your name on a vase or on a piece of...
0:25:22 > 0:25:24a water tumbler, just like that.
0:25:24 > 0:25:26And he had to do it in reverse,
0:25:26 > 0:25:29because the way that he worked is that the wheel,
0:25:29 > 0:25:32- the turning wheel...- Wheel. - ..was here.- That's right.
0:25:32 > 0:25:36- And he had to cut that mirror. - That is correct.
0:25:36 > 0:25:40So he had to learn the entire alphabet, plus dates,
0:25:40 > 0:25:42- and all the rest of it, in reverse. - That's right.
0:25:42 > 0:25:46And if that isn't a skill, I don't know what you think is,
0:25:46 > 0:25:47- you lot!- That's right.
0:25:47 > 0:25:50And so what you do, he would have padded doughnuts.
0:25:50 > 0:25:53He had... His elbows had to rest on two patches.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55I'm telling you, guys, if you put your elbows on the table...
0:25:55 > 0:25:57- He's like that all day.- ..all day...
0:25:57 > 0:25:59- From half past... - ..for his entire career.
0:25:59 > 0:26:02From half past seven until half past five every day, doing this.
0:26:02 > 0:26:06Breathing in lead crystal dust up his hooter.
0:26:06 > 0:26:08- Yes, that's right. - On top of the mustard gas
0:26:08 > 0:26:10that the Germans had stuck up his hooter.
0:26:10 > 0:26:13Given him, yeah, that's right, that's right. Yes.
0:26:13 > 0:26:15And the skills is fabulous.
0:26:15 > 0:26:18I mean, it doesn't take much to work out that
0:26:18 > 0:26:22- that is a beautiful thing, isn't it? I mean it really is.- Definitely.
0:26:22 > 0:26:24- The fact it's for putting fags in... - That's right.
0:26:24 > 0:26:27- ..you know there would be ten soldiers of...- Ten cigarettes!
0:26:27 > 0:26:29..fags, pointing out of this...
0:26:29 > 0:26:31- That's right, yes. - ..is what it is.- Yes.
0:26:31 > 0:26:33So, I tell you, the value of this stuff is...
0:26:33 > 0:26:38Oh, it's pitiful, I mean, it's just... I barely can bring myself
0:26:38 > 0:26:42to say that it's there, it's not worth 100 quid, it's not.
0:26:42 > 0:26:45- But... - But the fact is that you represent
0:26:45 > 0:26:48- tens of thousands of... - That's right.
0:26:48 > 0:26:51..people who've come down the generations from a job
0:26:51 > 0:26:55- to a job from Grandpa to a job to Pa, a job to myself.- That's right.
0:26:55 > 0:26:59And it's all gone, 5,000 in Stourbridge, to five today.
0:26:59 > 0:27:03Thomas Webb and Corbett has gone, so has Stuart Crystal,
0:27:03 > 0:27:08and they were all there, working away in the '20s, '30s.
0:27:08 > 0:27:11And what a pleasure it is to be here on the Antiques Roadshow,
0:27:11 > 0:27:14just to catch that snapshot of you and your dad.
0:27:14 > 0:27:16- That's right. - It's bloomin' great. Cheers, guv.
0:27:16 > 0:27:19Cheers. Thank you very much.
0:27:19 > 0:27:21APPLAUSE
0:27:24 > 0:27:27You brought in this beautiful Japanese album.
0:27:27 > 0:27:31But, actually, it relates to a different country rather than Japan.
0:27:31 > 0:27:33Yes, it was related to China.
0:27:33 > 0:27:37My great uncle went over there in 1897
0:27:37 > 0:27:40and he was over in China as a missionary,
0:27:40 > 0:27:44but he was in there during the time of the Boxer Uprising.
0:27:44 > 0:27:48- Fantastic, well, is he portrayed here?- Yes, this is him.
0:27:48 > 0:27:50- This gentleman at the back, pointing.- This gentleman.
0:27:50 > 0:27:55Yeah, pointing in the camera. And this is dated May 5th 1905.
0:27:55 > 0:27:59- Yes.- Was it given as a gift?- It was sent as a birthday present, yes.
0:27:59 > 0:28:00Now, it's absolutely full of images
0:28:00 > 0:28:03- that he actually took while out there.- He took them. Yes.
0:28:03 > 0:28:06And what's interesting about that is it was
0:28:06 > 0:28:09a very important part of history.
0:28:09 > 0:28:11- Oh, yes.- The Boxer Revolution. - Yes, yes.
0:28:11 > 0:28:13It was a time when the Chinese wanted
0:28:13 > 0:28:15to get out of all Western influence.
0:28:15 > 0:28:18That's right, they were against all the foreign nationals,
0:28:18 > 0:28:21especially trade and the missionaries as well.
0:28:21 > 0:28:24So they decided to kill them.
0:28:24 > 0:28:27So an international force was put together.
0:28:27 > 0:28:30I think it was the Americans and the British and...
0:28:30 > 0:28:32- There were quite a few, yes. - Quite a few.
0:28:32 > 0:28:35I think I saw something about German forces as well.
0:28:35 > 0:28:37- Yep.- Yes.- Because they all had interests in China,
0:28:37 > 0:28:39- so it was important that they... - Yes.
0:28:39 > 0:28:41..they supported their interests.
0:28:41 > 0:28:44So, we'll just open up another few images.
0:28:44 > 0:28:47Here is this distinguished looking gentleman here.
0:28:47 > 0:28:49- Yes.- Who's he?
0:28:49 > 0:28:53One of the Generals who negotiated the escape of my uncle
0:28:53 > 0:28:56and his family from the mission
0:28:56 > 0:28:59where he was serving during the Boxer Rebellion.
0:28:59 > 0:29:02They had to flee where they were
0:29:02 > 0:29:05and these people are the bodyguard before they left.
0:29:05 > 0:29:08So he was very lucky to escape with his life.
0:29:08 > 0:29:09He was very lucky to escape with his life.
0:29:09 > 0:29:12There were 100 and odd missionaries and families killed
0:29:12 > 0:29:15- as well as those. - And here's an image of the...
0:29:15 > 0:29:18Of the house that he went back to, a complete ruin.
0:29:18 > 0:29:21Was he a man of derring-do? I mean...
0:29:21 > 0:29:22Well, I don't know,
0:29:22 > 0:29:25he spent a couple of years later in outer Mongolia
0:29:25 > 0:29:28as a missionary, you know, seeing what it was like out there.
0:29:28 > 0:29:32And sort of arrived in Hawaii, America,
0:29:32 > 0:29:35but, yes, he was a very capable person.
0:29:35 > 0:29:37Well, I think this is a very important document.
0:29:37 > 0:29:40None of these photographs have ever been published before.
0:29:40 > 0:29:41- No.- They're all done by him.- Yes.
0:29:41 > 0:29:43It's a, you know,
0:29:43 > 0:29:46this went on to create the beginning of the Chinese Republic.
0:29:46 > 0:29:48Oh, yes, he saw the birth of the Chinese Republic
0:29:48 > 0:29:50when he was over there, yes.
0:29:50 > 0:29:52- So, the people who are interested today...- Yes.
0:29:52 > 0:29:54..are modern-day Chinese.
0:29:54 > 0:29:57- That's right, yes. - So an important document.- Hm.
0:29:57 > 0:29:59It's potentially worth, at auction, between...
0:29:59 > 0:30:01certainly £1,000 and £1,500.
0:30:01 > 0:30:04Oh, right. Didn't even think it would be worth that, but, as I said,
0:30:04 > 0:30:06it's the family value that...
0:30:06 > 0:30:08Of the person that he became, yes.
0:30:08 > 0:30:10I know, but lovely to see it
0:30:10 > 0:30:12and thank you so much for bringing it in.
0:30:12 > 0:30:13Thank you very much, then.
0:30:16 > 0:30:19You've got some medals here from a Private Emmett Carson,
0:30:19 > 0:30:21from the 101st Airborne.
0:30:21 > 0:30:23Who is he?
0:30:23 > 0:30:26This man is my biological father...
0:30:27 > 0:30:29..who I found
0:30:29 > 0:30:30after ten years of searching.
0:30:31 > 0:30:33How did you find out about him?
0:30:33 > 0:30:38I was clearing out my mother and father's loft.
0:30:38 > 0:30:42They'd passed away within six months of each other
0:30:42 > 0:30:44and I happened to be up there
0:30:44 > 0:30:47clearing out the loft and I found these airmail letters,
0:30:47 > 0:30:49letters from Emmett to my mother.
0:30:49 > 0:30:52When you read these letters,
0:30:52 > 0:30:53what did you find out?
0:30:53 > 0:30:58Well, I found out that the father I thought was my father wasn't,
0:30:58 > 0:31:00but he was a wonderful man that brought me up.
0:31:00 > 0:31:03- And no-one had ever told you this? - No, no.
0:31:03 > 0:31:05Gosh, that must have been a shock.
0:31:05 > 0:31:08I'm afraid that everybody in the family was told to secrecy.
0:31:08 > 0:31:10I wasn't to find out.
0:31:10 > 0:31:12- So... - So, you found out in your...
0:31:12 > 0:31:17I'm 50 years old and I find out that poor old Dad is not my dad...
0:31:18 > 0:31:22..but this GI, who lives in North Carolina,
0:31:22 > 0:31:24is my biological father.
0:31:24 > 0:31:27Gosh, that's like an earthquake...
0:31:27 > 0:31:29- Well...- ..in your life.
0:31:29 > 0:31:32..I was very distraught for a couple of years
0:31:32 > 0:31:33and I had to find him.
0:31:33 > 0:31:36There's something inside that said to me, "I've got to find him."
0:31:36 > 0:31:39And so did you find your biological father?
0:31:39 > 0:31:41I found the family.
0:31:41 > 0:31:43Sadly, he had died, in-between times.
0:31:43 > 0:31:46- And that's how you got these medals, is it?- Yeah.
0:31:46 > 0:31:49When I was there, my cousin said to me,
0:31:49 > 0:31:50"Look, when he died,
0:31:50 > 0:31:53"the military flag was put on his coffin
0:31:53 > 0:31:56"and there were coffin bearers and
0:31:56 > 0:31:59"it was given to him because he was military."
0:31:59 > 0:32:03And he said to me, "Look, you are his son, you should have them."
0:32:03 > 0:32:05Tell me about the photograph album that you found.
0:32:05 > 0:32:07The first time we went there,
0:32:07 > 0:32:10my lady cousin said to me
0:32:10 > 0:32:13"Do you want to look at the family Bible?"
0:32:13 > 0:32:16Happened to be the photograph album
0:32:16 > 0:32:18of the whole family from about 1870
0:32:18 > 0:32:20up to the modern day.
0:32:20 > 0:32:23And I'm looking through it and we're going through,
0:32:23 > 0:32:26"That's your great-grandpa, that's your grandma," and all this
0:32:26 > 0:32:29and then she said... We came to this photograph of this lady,
0:32:29 > 0:32:32and she said, "We don't know who this is," she said,
0:32:32 > 0:32:35"but it's in the album," and I said, "Well, I know, it's my mother."
0:32:35 > 0:32:40- Goodness.- So, obviously Emmett had put it in the album.
0:32:40 > 0:32:42So what does it mean to you to have these
0:32:42 > 0:32:45and to have the flag that was on his casket?
0:32:45 > 0:32:47Well...
0:32:47 > 0:32:49It's... I can't explain it really.
0:32:49 > 0:32:53It's unexplainable because it's all down here, you know.
0:32:53 > 0:32:57I get emotional about it still, now, as you can see.
0:32:59 > 0:33:00It just means I've had...
0:33:00 > 0:33:02I was lucky, I had two fathers.
0:33:02 > 0:33:06I had one that gave me life and one that brought me up,
0:33:06 > 0:33:07so I was very fortunate.
0:33:09 > 0:33:11During my 30 years of the Roadshow
0:33:11 > 0:33:15and I don't remember seeing early playing cards like these
0:33:15 > 0:33:17and you have collected them.
0:33:17 > 0:33:18I have indeed, yeah.
0:33:18 > 0:33:20Tell me what started it.
0:33:20 > 0:33:22Well, initially, it was an interest in history
0:33:22 > 0:33:24and a passing interest in playing cards.
0:33:24 > 0:33:26And about 20 years ago,
0:33:26 > 0:33:28I bought a replica pack,
0:33:28 > 0:33:31which you can buy for about £5... Actually, this one.
0:33:31 > 0:33:34Subsequently, I managed to go online
0:33:34 > 0:33:36and go to an auction
0:33:36 > 0:33:38and I picked up these first -
0:33:38 > 0:33:40which is just 20, obviously, of a set of 52.
0:33:40 > 0:33:42So, going to auctions,
0:33:42 > 0:33:45seeing what the dealer has to offer, I've managed to collect them.
0:33:45 > 0:33:47And did you collect the rest of the set?
0:33:47 > 0:33:50I haven't been able to find the rest of the set yet,
0:33:50 > 0:33:52so there's 32 I've still got to find.
0:33:52 > 0:33:53Gosh, so you've got a target?
0:33:53 > 0:33:55I have got a target.
0:33:55 > 0:33:58These ones, I think, are earlier, aren't they?
0:33:58 > 0:33:59They are.
0:33:59 > 0:34:01They're from an earlier period
0:34:01 > 0:34:03and it's called the Knavery of the Rump.
0:34:03 > 0:34:06So this, as you know, is the front of the pack
0:34:06 > 0:34:09- but it's a facsimile, it's not the real one...- Yes.
0:34:09 > 0:34:11..and it's showing the title of the pack,
0:34:11 > 0:34:13which is the Knavery of the Rump,
0:34:13 > 0:34:16which is basically cocking a snook at Cromwell and his parliament.
0:34:16 > 0:34:17That's right.
0:34:17 > 0:34:20There are a lot of vignettes here, which are showing...
0:34:20 > 0:34:22- Satirical.- ..things that happened.
0:34:22 > 0:34:25Exactly, satirical things that happened at the time and...
0:34:25 > 0:34:27- Very entertaining. - It is entertaining.
0:34:27 > 0:34:29You go back down the history and find out more about
0:34:29 > 0:34:32- just that three lines... - Yes.- ..and it can tell you
0:34:32 > 0:34:35- so much more about what was really happening at the time.- Absolutely.
0:34:35 > 0:34:37And, actually, I'm a bit ignorant,
0:34:37 > 0:34:39who was Lady Lambert...
0:34:39 > 0:34:41who was being very strong with Oliver?
0:34:41 > 0:34:45- I've absolutely no idea. - THEY LAUGH
0:34:45 > 0:34:48Oh, fantastic, and all these
0:34:48 > 0:34:50are part of this 50 pack
0:34:50 > 0:34:52and you've just got two to get.
0:34:52 > 0:34:54I have got two to find somewhere.
0:34:54 > 0:34:58Well, now, I recognise these wonderful illustrations -
0:34:58 > 0:35:00probably from etchings by Francis Barlow...
0:35:00 > 0:35:05- Right.- ..who was known as the first English illustrator of books...
0:35:05 > 0:35:07- Uh-huh.- ..but he was a painter,
0:35:07 > 0:35:10etcher and illustrator,
0:35:10 > 0:35:12and he was so brilliant
0:35:12 > 0:35:14with his political sketches -
0:35:14 > 0:35:16and you've got these wonderful ones.
0:35:16 > 0:35:19You don't really need to play a game,
0:35:19 > 0:35:21you can just pass them round in a gentleman's club,
0:35:21 > 0:35:24although I think they probably played rummy and whist.
0:35:24 > 0:35:25Yes.
0:35:25 > 0:35:29But they are so amusing you want to look at them and not pass them on.
0:35:29 > 0:35:31They can take up a bit of time looking at them...
0:35:31 > 0:35:33- Absolutely.- ..as it were.
0:35:33 > 0:35:36I do happen to know that a set of these,
0:35:36 > 0:35:38you say you've only got 50 out of the 52.
0:35:38 > 0:35:40I've got 50 out of 52 of those, yeah.
0:35:40 > 0:35:42- And these are 1685.- About that.
0:35:42 > 0:35:46- Well, I'm just going to stick my neck out on these...- Uh-huh.
0:35:46 > 0:35:50..because, let's assume you're going to get the last two,
0:35:50 > 0:35:53- these are going to be worth £12,000.- Wow!
0:35:53 > 0:35:54Right. OK.
0:35:57 > 0:35:58OK.
0:35:58 > 0:36:01The interesting part for me
0:36:01 > 0:36:03is that the later ones,
0:36:03 > 0:36:06which were the Marlborough ones -
0:36:06 > 0:36:08- these ones.- Yeah.
0:36:08 > 0:36:11I think those were also by Francis Barlow.
0:36:11 > 0:36:14They're much more intricate, but I think he got better and better...
0:36:14 > 0:36:15- Yeah.- ..as he got on in his life.
0:36:15 > 0:36:18In the same way, you have got...how many of these?
0:36:18 > 0:36:20I've got a full set of those.
0:36:22 > 0:36:25Again, maybe £6,000 to £8,000.
0:36:25 > 0:36:28- Right.- So you've got, say, £12,000 here.- Yep.
0:36:28 > 0:36:30Say £7,000 there,
0:36:30 > 0:36:32- so that's £19,000.- Right.
0:36:33 > 0:36:35What did you pay for these?
0:36:35 > 0:36:36About £1,200.
0:36:36 > 0:36:39- £1,200? Well they've gone up since you bought them.- Right.
0:36:39 > 0:36:41When did you buy them?
0:36:41 > 0:36:42They've... Oh, about five, six years ago.
0:36:42 > 0:36:45Yeah, I think we're going to go to £3,000 for these...
0:36:45 > 0:36:48- Right.- ..and counting.- Right.
0:36:48 > 0:36:51It's so exciting and wonderful for the Roadshow
0:36:51 > 0:36:54because we haven't had anything like this before.
0:36:54 > 0:36:56Yeah. I thought it was interesting to show people.
0:36:56 > 0:36:58- And wonderful for me, I never stop learning.- No, OK.
0:36:58 > 0:37:01- Thank you very much for bringing them.- Thank you, Bunny.
0:37:03 > 0:37:06Well, it feels like all the fun of the fair today, doesn't it,
0:37:06 > 0:37:10with the tents and the excitement building, and the sunshine?
0:37:10 > 0:37:14And there's nothing more linked to a fairground, I guess,
0:37:14 > 0:37:16than one of these - a fairground horse.
0:37:16 > 0:37:17What's the story for you?
0:37:17 > 0:37:20Well, I bought it at auction about eight years ago,
0:37:20 > 0:37:23and I go to auctions fairly regular.
0:37:23 > 0:37:25I've never seen one before and I just fell in love with it
0:37:25 > 0:37:28and I thought, "If I don't buy it, I'm never going to see another one."
0:37:28 > 0:37:33So, it was catalogued as a 19th-century carousel horse
0:37:33 > 0:37:36and I don't really know much more about it than that.
0:37:36 > 0:37:38Somebody did tell me that it...
0:37:38 > 0:37:40Because it faces to the right, it's American
0:37:40 > 0:37:42but that's all I know about it really,
0:37:42 > 0:37:44- so I was hoping you could tell me a bit more about it.- Sure.
0:37:44 > 0:37:47Well, that's an interesting point that you've made
0:37:47 > 0:37:49because it is facing this way -
0:37:49 > 0:37:53which is basically anticlockwise, round a carousel.
0:37:53 > 0:37:55Now, most horses that you see
0:37:55 > 0:37:57are designed to go the other way,
0:37:57 > 0:38:00clockwise, and that's a little indication
0:38:00 > 0:38:03that it could be American.
0:38:03 > 0:38:07The American horses had the romance side,
0:38:07 > 0:38:10that's the highly decorated side, on the outside -
0:38:10 > 0:38:13and also, being so highly decorated,
0:38:13 > 0:38:15I think this is probably from the outer layer.
0:38:15 > 0:38:18- You know, there were probably three layers...- Right.
0:38:18 > 0:38:19..of horses, certainly two -
0:38:19 > 0:38:22and he would have been on the outer layer.
0:38:22 > 0:38:28The carousel comes from a Middle Age system of training knights,
0:38:28 > 0:38:32where knights would gallop on horses and try and hit things
0:38:32 > 0:38:36- that were put in a circle around them...- Oh, I see.
0:38:36 > 0:38:39..and that was called a "carousela", a "little battle",
0:38:39 > 0:38:42and, from that, came this, really -
0:38:42 > 0:38:45a derivation of that particular word.
0:38:45 > 0:38:49Now, you bought it, what, as a piece of sculpture, almost?
0:38:49 > 0:38:51I just bought it because I love it, really,
0:38:51 > 0:38:54and I suppose it is a piece of sculpture and it was...
0:38:54 > 0:38:56I bought it at a time when I had
0:38:56 > 0:38:58more disposable income than I have now
0:38:58 > 0:39:01and I just fell in love with it and thought I wouldn't see another one,
0:39:01 > 0:39:03and I justified it by the fact
0:39:03 > 0:39:05that it's cheaper to keep than a real horse
0:39:05 > 0:39:06and it doesn't need mucking out.
0:39:06 > 0:39:10So, yeah, I went for it and it...
0:39:10 > 0:39:12I always hesitate to tell people how much I paid for it
0:39:12 > 0:39:14because it was a lot of money, but I love it.
0:39:14 > 0:39:17So, let's think about it.
0:39:17 > 0:39:21It's a late-19th century American carousel horse,
0:39:21 > 0:39:25from, I think, one of the collectable makers,
0:39:25 > 0:39:27Dentzel.
0:39:27 > 0:39:31So, I think that I'd put a figure of £3,000 to £5,000 on it
0:39:31 > 0:39:34as a sort of middling estimate -
0:39:34 > 0:39:37but knowing that the market is in the States for these
0:39:37 > 0:39:42and it may be that if the right person out there sees it...
0:39:42 > 0:39:45it could take off, but it's not something I can see
0:39:45 > 0:39:48is going to cross the Atlantic any time soon.
0:39:48 > 0:39:50No, I don't think I'll ever be able to get rid of it,
0:39:50 > 0:39:51but that's good to hear
0:39:51 > 0:39:54because I paid less than that, so that's a relief.
0:39:54 > 0:39:57Oh, very good. Well, we like a happy, smiling face
0:39:57 > 0:39:59when we give a valuation. Excellent.
0:39:59 > 0:40:02Well, thanks very much for bringing it in and...
0:40:02 > 0:40:04- I hope it continues to give you lots of pleasure...- Yes.
0:40:04 > 0:40:06..and for this one, too, as she grows into it.
0:40:06 > 0:40:10I think she'll probably claim it, at some stage, as her own.
0:40:12 > 0:40:15- So, obviously I can see you've got some programmes.- Yes.
0:40:15 > 0:40:18- They're in Italian. - They are. They're...
0:40:18 > 0:40:20At the end of the War,
0:40:20 > 0:40:22my grandfather was in Rome
0:40:22 > 0:40:25and they were all given three days off at the end of the war...
0:40:25 > 0:40:27- Oh, right.- ..and all his friends
0:40:27 > 0:40:31- decided to go and enjoy the company of the local ladies...- And...
0:40:31 > 0:40:32..but my grandfather decided -
0:40:32 > 0:40:35because he'd never been - he would go to the opera.
0:40:35 > 0:40:38So he went three nights running and these are the programmes.
0:40:38 > 0:40:39And he went three nights running.
0:40:39 > 0:40:42Oh, my God. He was obviously a very cultured gentleman.
0:40:42 > 0:40:44He was wonderful, he was absolutely wonderful.
0:40:44 > 0:40:46Oh, what a fantastic story.
0:40:46 > 0:40:48So, I'm sure they're probably not worth anything
0:40:48 > 0:40:51- but I just think it's... I love the story...- That's great, yeah.
0:40:51 > 0:40:53..and the fact that he kept them and brought them back.
0:40:53 > 0:40:56- It obviously had a very strong impact on him.- Yes, absolutely.
0:40:56 > 0:40:58Oh, brilliant. Oh, well, I hope you have a great day today...
0:40:58 > 0:41:00- Thank you very much. - ..and one of our experts
0:41:00 > 0:41:04- would be very happy to look at them for you, I'm sure.- Thank you.
0:41:22 > 0:41:26This huge leatherbound volume looks like a monster book, doesn't it?
0:41:26 > 0:41:29And, in fact, it says, "Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll."
0:41:29 > 0:41:31But further down it says, "A Motion Picture",
0:41:31 > 0:41:33which, of course, is quite strange.
0:41:33 > 0:41:35- So, let's open it up and have a look.- Mm-hmm.
0:41:35 > 0:41:38- If you don't mind supporting that. - Yeah, of course.
0:41:38 > 0:41:42This is signed, "To Anne Waddington from Alice in Wonderland" and...
0:41:42 > 0:41:46what this is, in fact, is an amazing presentation script
0:41:46 > 0:41:50for the 1933 Paramount film Alice In Wonderland.
0:41:50 > 0:41:51The title page, there, is amazing
0:41:51 > 0:41:53but before we talk about that,
0:41:53 > 0:41:56tell me a little bit about how you came to have this.
0:41:56 > 0:41:58This used to be my great-grandmother's,
0:41:58 > 0:42:00- who passed it on to my mother.- Right.
0:42:00 > 0:42:03The book is signed, "From Alice in Wonderland,"
0:42:03 > 0:42:04the actual actress herself.
0:42:04 > 0:42:08So we believe it was given to a friend of my great-grandmother
0:42:08 > 0:42:10and, when my mum saw it,
0:42:10 > 0:42:13- I think she said she was 17 years old and said...- Right.
0:42:13 > 0:42:15"..Oh, my gosh, this is absolutely amazing."
0:42:15 > 0:42:18And so my great-grandmother said, "Well, you can have it."
0:42:18 > 0:42:22So, gave it to her and she's just had it in the house all these years
0:42:22 > 0:42:24and never really knew what to do with it.
0:42:24 > 0:42:26So my husband and I thought we'd take it down
0:42:26 > 0:42:29and find out a bit more, if we can, about it.
0:42:29 > 0:42:32Well, I don't think I've ever seen a script quite like this -
0:42:32 > 0:42:34- a presentation script. - Beautiful, isn't it?
0:42:34 > 0:42:36Yeah, if we look at this frontispiece,
0:42:36 > 0:42:39we can see that we've got very early Cary Grant here,
0:42:39 > 0:42:42we've got WC Fields
0:42:42 > 0:42:44and, actually, let's turn a little bit further
0:42:44 > 0:42:47because I think this was probably made, perhaps,
0:42:47 > 0:42:50to present to some sponsors or something like that...
0:42:50 > 0:42:51Oh, right.
0:42:51 > 0:42:53..because what it is, it's a complete storyboard as well
0:42:53 > 0:42:55with characters, costumes,
0:42:55 > 0:42:58storyboarded out with all of the script.
0:42:58 > 0:43:01It really is a magnificent thing.
0:43:01 > 0:43:03Now, to be frank with you,
0:43:03 > 0:43:06having seen nothing like this before -
0:43:06 > 0:43:08and I've seen quite a few movie scripts -
0:43:08 > 0:43:11it's quite difficult to try and, kind of,
0:43:11 > 0:43:13think about what something like this is worth.
0:43:13 > 0:43:15But do you know? I'm going to put
0:43:15 > 0:43:17£5,000 to £8,000 on this.
0:43:17 > 0:43:19Oh, my!
0:43:21 > 0:43:23I won't give it back to my mum.
0:43:23 > 0:43:25I'm off.
0:43:28 > 0:43:31It really, really is a staggeringly good piece of movie history...
0:43:31 > 0:43:33- Yeah, my gosh.- ..I think.
0:43:33 > 0:43:36And actually, an absolute delight to see it.
0:43:36 > 0:43:38- So, thanks ever so much. - Oh, thank you very much.
0:43:38 > 0:43:40I'm off, I'm running.
0:43:40 > 0:43:42It's too heavy to run with.
0:43:44 > 0:43:46- Thank you.- Pleasure.
0:43:49 > 0:43:51Sorry, may I interrupt a second?
0:43:51 > 0:43:52A matching pair.
0:43:55 > 0:43:57I like this. I think it's quite sweet,
0:43:57 > 0:43:59what made you bring it here today?
0:43:59 > 0:44:01Well, I collect pigs and I also collect Vestas
0:44:01 > 0:44:03and I just wondered if it was worth anything.
0:44:03 > 0:44:05- 126.- Yes.
0:44:05 > 0:44:06- Simon and Halbig.- Yep.
0:44:06 > 0:44:08Circa 1930, the flirty eye
0:44:08 > 0:44:11is going to be worth £400 to £600,
0:44:11 > 0:44:14and the one without the flirty eyes, even though they're twins...
0:44:14 > 0:44:17- Three to five?- Three to five.
0:44:17 > 0:44:18Fantastic, that's great.
0:44:18 > 0:44:20Wonderful. Sorry to interrupt.
0:44:20 > 0:44:24It was plated all over. It's cast brass, but heavy casting.
0:44:24 > 0:44:27- Normally these are sheet metal. - Right.- This is really nice.
0:44:27 > 0:44:30They come from my grandfather.
0:44:30 > 0:44:32He used them to go and find,
0:44:32 > 0:44:34obviously, the girlfriend at the time.
0:44:34 > 0:44:37Did the girlfriend at the time become your grandmother?
0:44:37 > 0:44:38- She did.- Ah, that's lovely.
0:44:38 > 0:44:41And it's got a nice curly tail
0:44:41 > 0:44:42back there and little hooves.
0:44:42 > 0:44:44I... It's just nice.
0:44:44 > 0:44:47I'm always known for lifting up dolls' dresses,
0:44:47 > 0:44:48I get teased like mad.
0:44:48 > 0:44:51And what I like about it is,
0:44:51 > 0:44:52the striker is inside the head.
0:44:52 > 0:44:55Normally the striker's on the side or on the belly
0:44:55 > 0:44:57but it's inside there and this is solid cast, this bit...
0:44:57 > 0:44:59She's very grand, isn't she?
0:45:00 > 0:45:02Got wonderful hair.
0:45:02 > 0:45:04..and it's just really nice.
0:45:04 > 0:45:06I suppose it's Edwardian,
0:45:06 > 0:45:081920s maybe.
0:45:08 > 0:45:10Have you ever had her valued?
0:45:10 > 0:45:11Half-heartedly.
0:45:11 > 0:45:13Right, and...?
0:45:13 > 0:45:14They said £1,000.
0:45:14 > 0:45:17Well, I'm going to say £2,000 to £3,000.
0:45:17 > 0:45:19Worth about...
0:45:19 > 0:45:22£200 to £250 to a collector.
0:45:22 > 0:45:23That's good.
0:45:23 > 0:45:26He's called Harry. So, I've had him since I was eight
0:45:26 > 0:45:29and he's a member of our family.
0:45:29 > 0:45:30Ah, I'm not surprised.
0:45:30 > 0:45:32How do you do, Harry?
0:45:32 > 0:45:34You are very lucky.
0:45:34 > 0:45:36You are very lucky and so are you.
0:45:42 > 0:45:44Well, not only am I fascinated by jewellery
0:45:44 > 0:45:46but I love architecture as well
0:45:46 > 0:45:48and there's something about this necklace
0:45:48 > 0:45:50that really has an architectural feel,
0:45:50 > 0:45:52and almost a religious feel.
0:45:52 > 0:45:54So how did you come to have it?
0:45:54 > 0:45:57It's a family piece that my grandmother inherited
0:45:57 > 0:45:58from an aunt of hers
0:45:58 > 0:46:01and has come down, through my grandmother and my mother.
0:46:01 > 0:46:02to my sister and I.
0:46:02 > 0:46:05Part of this family was quite religious.
0:46:05 > 0:46:09Auntie Claire, whose necklace it was, was quite religious.
0:46:09 > 0:46:12Now, whether she actually had this piece made personally for her
0:46:12 > 0:46:15or she inherited it from her mother,
0:46:15 > 0:46:16we don't know that -
0:46:16 > 0:46:20but all the stones actually do represent different saints.
0:46:20 > 0:46:22That's right, because we've actually got a...
0:46:22 > 0:46:26Well, a description here from the jewellers, Lewis Abbot,
0:46:26 > 0:46:28which relates to also the box -
0:46:28 > 0:46:30so we know that the two are combined
0:46:30 > 0:46:31and it's not something that
0:46:31 > 0:46:33they've written after the purchase, which is great...
0:46:33 > 0:46:35- No, that's right.- ..isn't it?
0:46:35 > 0:46:38- And it does say how important those saints were and...- Yes.
0:46:38 > 0:46:41..with relation to how they should have gems associated to them
0:46:41 > 0:46:43- as well...- Yes. - ..and for many centuries,
0:46:43 > 0:46:47we've known that gems are associated with months for birthdays
0:46:47 > 0:46:49and various love symbols
0:46:49 > 0:46:52through the Victorian period they were picked up on -
0:46:52 > 0:46:55and to see them associated with saints is really lovely.
0:46:55 > 0:46:58I mean, we can pick out, also, from this list, here,
0:46:58 > 0:47:01which is in a different hand from the from the letter...
0:47:01 > 0:47:02- Yes.- ..or description up here.
0:47:02 > 0:47:05So, this must, maybe, have been done by her?
0:47:05 > 0:47:07It may be done by her
0:47:07 > 0:47:10- or even my great grandfather.- Yes.
0:47:10 > 0:47:12Well, he studied it very carefully and
0:47:12 > 0:47:14has listed all the saints
0:47:14 > 0:47:16and also then related them to the stone
0:47:16 > 0:47:18that they're associated with
0:47:18 > 0:47:21and also the month that the stones related to.
0:47:21 > 0:47:22So let's have a look here,
0:47:22 > 0:47:25we've got St Andrew associated with the sapphire -
0:47:25 > 0:47:28which, of course, is the stone associated with April,
0:47:28 > 0:47:29the month of April.
0:47:29 > 0:47:33And there's the gorgeous sapphire just sparkling there.
0:47:33 > 0:47:36And then further down... If we just go down to St John,
0:47:36 > 0:47:40we've got emerald associated, of course, with the month of June -
0:47:40 > 0:47:43which is just there. The lovely little stone there.
0:47:43 > 0:47:46And on it goes, with all the different stones that we've got.
0:47:46 > 0:47:48So, it's set in probably nine carat gold
0:47:48 > 0:47:50because it's quite a nice pale gold
0:47:50 > 0:47:53and all the detailing is very delicately done
0:47:53 > 0:47:55with the trefoil motifs that we see here.
0:47:55 > 0:47:58So, a fun piece of jewellery and, date-wise,
0:47:58 > 0:48:01it fits in around about the 1860s, 1870s.
0:48:01 > 0:48:04So, does it ever come out?
0:48:04 > 0:48:05I wore it at my wedding.
0:48:05 > 0:48:08- Did you?- And I also wore it at Christmas to a Christmas do.
0:48:08 > 0:48:10- Uh-huh.- Because, yeah...
0:48:10 > 0:48:12I haven't told my sister that...
0:48:12 > 0:48:13Oh, no.
0:48:13 > 0:48:16..but it was a high-end Christmas do.
0:48:16 > 0:48:19But, yes. I have worn it occasionally
0:48:19 > 0:48:20and I would wear it again
0:48:20 > 0:48:23because it's such a nice piece of jewellery to wear as well.
0:48:23 > 0:48:26It is, isn't it? It's absolutely wonderful and go with any outfit
0:48:26 > 0:48:29- because of all the colours...- Yeah. - ..in there as well so it's great.
0:48:29 > 0:48:30Now obviously it's a family piece.
0:48:30 > 0:48:32- You're not going to sell it, are you?- No.
0:48:32 > 0:48:34It's going to stay within the family but I think
0:48:34 > 0:48:36in an auction environment, should it go in for sale,
0:48:36 > 0:48:39because of all the stones and the story
0:48:39 > 0:48:42and the fun side to it as well, we'd be looking at an estimate
0:48:42 > 0:48:44of round about £1,500 to £2,000.
0:48:44 > 0:48:45Blimey.
0:48:45 > 0:48:48We didn't think it was going to be as much as that.
0:48:52 > 0:48:55It's not often on the Antiques Roadshow that we get to use,
0:48:55 > 0:48:59let alone wear the items that we see,
0:48:59 > 0:49:02and you two, me and this mannequin
0:49:02 > 0:49:05are wearing some fantastic 1930s and 1940s suits
0:49:05 > 0:49:08- by Montague Burton.- Indeed.- Yeah.
0:49:08 > 0:49:09But you look the whole part.
0:49:09 > 0:49:11- I mean...- Thank you. - ..tell me the whole story.
0:49:11 > 0:49:13How did you get into this?
0:49:13 > 0:49:16Well, we're both interested in the tailoring industry
0:49:16 > 0:49:19and we're both '30s and '40s re-enactors.
0:49:19 > 0:49:23We go all over the country doing re-enacting and World War II events.
0:49:23 > 0:49:24Yeah, and we just love the era.
0:49:24 > 0:49:27Yeah. We love the clothes and it's...
0:49:27 > 0:49:29- As you can see, we wear it most weekends.- Yeah.
0:49:29 > 0:49:33But it's not just the clothing. I mean, literally, from top to toe -
0:49:33 > 0:49:36the shoes, the trousers, the suit, the hair.
0:49:36 > 0:49:38I mean, it's magnificent.
0:49:38 > 0:49:40What do your friends think. I mean, how old are you?
0:49:40 > 0:49:42- 28.- Yeah, both of us are 28.
0:49:42 > 0:49:45- OK, what do they think of all of this?- Slightly odd.
0:49:45 > 0:49:48No, no, we've got a lot of friends who re-enact with us,
0:49:48 > 0:49:49who are used to it, and then our
0:49:49 > 0:49:52work colleagues and other friends just sort of go, "Fair enough."
0:49:52 > 0:49:55- Accept it, yeah.- Well, it was very much sort of a moment in history,
0:49:55 > 0:49:57- a moment in fashion history, really.- Definitely.
0:49:57 > 0:49:59Montague Burton came over...
0:49:59 > 0:50:02I think he came in 1900 and, shortly afterwards,
0:50:02 > 0:50:05founded his company selling clothes in 1903
0:50:05 > 0:50:07- and was enormously successful. - Yeah, yeah.
0:50:07 > 0:50:11By 1929, hundreds of shops, mills, factories.
0:50:11 > 0:50:14I mean, he really captured that moment of, sort of...
0:50:14 > 0:50:16In a way, would you say tailoring for the masses?
0:50:16 > 0:50:17Yeah, tailoring for...
0:50:17 > 0:50:20Yeah, definitely tailoring for the masses and sort of
0:50:20 > 0:50:25allowing the everyday man to buy a tailor-made suit,
0:50:25 > 0:50:28which a lot of people couldn't afford back then.
0:50:28 > 0:50:31I think his big thing was, most of his shops, if not all of them,
0:50:31 > 0:50:34had the billiards hall above the shop,
0:50:34 > 0:50:36so it drew the customers in.
0:50:36 > 0:50:40He was a sharp guy, this Lithuanian Jew who came over in 1900,
0:50:40 > 0:50:42but it wasn't just that,
0:50:42 > 0:50:44- it was also these seductive catalogues.- Yes.
0:50:44 > 0:50:47Look at how smart you can be, look how marvellous you can look.
0:50:47 > 0:50:50And certainly wearing this suit, I'm sure you're the same,
0:50:50 > 0:50:53- you do feel sort of proper, I think. - Yeah, you do. Yep, definitely.
0:50:53 > 0:50:55So how much of your life has it taken over?
0:50:55 > 0:50:57I mean, you do re-enactments, you say,
0:50:57 > 0:51:00but you seem to have so much more than just the suits.
0:51:00 > 0:51:03Yeah, I've sort of collected all the...
0:51:03 > 0:51:05collectibles that go with it, really,
0:51:05 > 0:51:08and anything that sort of interests me and it's got...
0:51:08 > 0:51:10Displays the suits and...
0:51:10 > 0:51:11It's just... Love it, fantastic.
0:51:11 > 0:51:14- You've got to have it? - Yeah, I have really.
0:51:14 > 0:51:17- Do we think we're perhaps a little obsessed?- Yeah, a little bit, maybe.
0:51:17 > 0:51:20- Yeah, definitely.- But there's a lot to get obsessed about.
0:51:20 > 0:51:23I mean, not only do you look, sort of, the sharpest cats in town,
0:51:23 > 0:51:25but just looking at the tailoring of these pieces...
0:51:25 > 0:51:28- I mean, I can't help noticing the back on this suit.- Yes, that's...
0:51:28 > 0:51:31- He really captured the style of the day.- Definitely.
0:51:31 > 0:51:33I mean, this suit here's a particularly rare suit,
0:51:33 > 0:51:35British tailored by Burton.
0:51:35 > 0:51:38It's more... The back belt and the knife pleats
0:51:38 > 0:51:40are more common in American tailoring.
0:51:40 > 0:51:42This one's extremely rare - maybe...
0:51:42 > 0:51:44Probably about £500, £600 - maybe more on a...
0:51:44 > 0:51:47If someone really wanted it, they would pay...
0:51:47 > 0:51:48maybe £1,000 plus.
0:51:48 > 0:51:51Maybe someone like you might pay £1,000 plus.
0:51:51 > 0:51:54There's a big difference. I mean, you really are dedicated collectors
0:51:54 > 0:51:56and I suppose for these pieces here,
0:51:56 > 0:51:59- these mean more to you as a collector...- Yeah, definitely.
0:51:59 > 0:52:01..than perhaps they might fetch on the market.
0:52:01 > 0:52:03I mean, anything, I suppose, from £5 to sort of £10,
0:52:03 > 0:52:05- maybe even up to £50 for a piece. - Yeah.
0:52:05 > 0:52:07So you've got a fantastic collection here
0:52:07 > 0:52:10that really is going to be, what? £1,200 to £1,800 worth, I suppose.
0:52:10 > 0:52:12- Yeah, yeah.- Plus the cup, maybe up to £2,000.
0:52:12 > 0:52:14Yeah, definitely, yeah.
0:52:14 > 0:52:16Hot property now, hot property of the future,
0:52:16 > 0:52:20but I can tell you one thing, I am boiling hot and you must be too,
0:52:20 > 0:52:22so I think I'm going to go and change back out of this
0:52:22 > 0:52:25- and hand it back. Thank you very, very much.- Thank you very much.
0:52:25 > 0:52:28- Fantastic collection.- Cheers, thank you.- Thank you.- Thank you.
0:52:28 > 0:52:31Now, for those of us who think, "What sort of thing is this?"
0:52:31 > 0:52:34- It's a cigarette box. - That's right.
0:52:34 > 0:52:37Made at a time when people still smoked...
0:52:37 > 0:52:40- Yeah, I know.- ..but this is made in around about 1900.
0:52:40 > 0:52:43Now, I know a little bit about it, but I'd like you to tell me
0:52:43 > 0:52:45a little more that I can add to.
0:52:45 > 0:52:49So, first of all, where's it come from?
0:52:49 > 0:52:51Comes through my family,
0:52:51 > 0:52:53my grandfather received it.
0:52:53 > 0:52:55We were told, in the family, from the Tsar -
0:52:55 > 0:52:57but, of course, not directly, I'm sure.
0:52:57 > 0:52:59My grandfather was a metallurgist
0:52:59 > 0:53:01and he was asked,
0:53:01 > 0:53:03by the White Russians, to go over
0:53:03 > 0:53:05and help sort out the guns
0:53:05 > 0:53:09that weren't firing...straight or I don't know quite what
0:53:09 > 0:53:11but they weren't behaving themselves very well.
0:53:11 > 0:53:12So when would that have been?
0:53:12 > 0:53:14About the time of Tsar Nicholas II, do you think?
0:53:14 > 0:53:17Yes, it must have been. The Revolution.
0:53:17 > 0:53:20- Well, the White Russians, of course, they were loyal to the Tsar.- Yes.
0:53:20 > 0:53:22They are fighting against the Bolsheviks, the Reds.
0:53:22 > 0:53:24That's right.
0:53:24 > 0:53:26And we all know what happened to the Tsar in 1917
0:53:26 > 0:53:28when the Revolution came.
0:53:28 > 0:53:29Well, let's have a look.
0:53:29 > 0:53:30It's made of silver,
0:53:30 > 0:53:32there's a little circular disc in the middle
0:53:32 > 0:53:35and it is blue enamelled decoration
0:53:35 > 0:53:38and what enamel that is!
0:53:38 > 0:53:42Because it's covered in this very smooth,
0:53:42 > 0:53:43almost wet,
0:53:43 > 0:53:46polished covering of Royal Blue.
0:53:46 > 0:53:48Yeah.
0:53:48 > 0:53:50And, of course, when you look carefully,
0:53:50 > 0:53:52you see that the background to the blue
0:53:52 > 0:53:55are all these little individual wavy lines.
0:53:55 > 0:53:57It's quite a simple piece, really,
0:53:57 > 0:53:59- as far as the construction's concerned.- Yes, it is.
0:53:59 > 0:54:01The middle - and you mentioned Russia -
0:54:01 > 0:54:03well, that's quite right, it's a Catherine the Great rouble.
0:54:03 > 0:54:06- That's right.- Gold rouble. - I was always told it was a rouble.
0:54:06 > 0:54:09- You were told that?- Yeah. - Let's look inside it, shall we?
0:54:09 > 0:54:12First of all, diamonds...
0:54:12 > 0:54:13- Yes.- ..in this little lip.
0:54:13 > 0:54:16- That's right.- When I lift up the little lip...
0:54:17 > 0:54:19..inside, we have,
0:54:19 > 0:54:21which I'm really delighted to see more than anything else,
0:54:21 > 0:54:24- is the original cigarette... - Yes.- ..that's been left there.
0:54:24 > 0:54:28- Yes. Might need it one day.- Right.
0:54:28 > 0:54:31Now, looking at the marks inside the box...
0:54:31 > 0:54:33just down here,
0:54:33 > 0:54:37we see that there is a little stamp of a woman's head in profile,
0:54:37 > 0:54:40- called a Kokoshnik - the Russian mark.- Oh, right.
0:54:40 > 0:54:44The mark on the right of that has got a little tiny monogram,
0:54:44 > 0:54:47which is the work of a man called Hollming...
0:54:47 > 0:54:48Right.
0:54:48 > 0:54:52- ..who was a craftsman working for Faberge.- Faberge, yes.
0:54:52 > 0:54:55And sure enough, on the right-hand side of that,
0:54:55 > 0:54:57the Faberge stamp there.
0:54:57 > 0:54:59- Very nice indeed.- Oh.
0:54:59 > 0:55:01What do we like to see on the Antiques Roadshow?
0:55:01 > 0:55:04- Nice things.- And we like to see Faberge.- Oh, do you?
0:55:04 > 0:55:08Well, of course, we love Faberge, of course we do.
0:55:09 > 0:55:11With one little teeny caveat.
0:55:11 > 0:55:12Yes, I know.
0:55:12 > 0:55:15What exactly happened there?
0:55:16 > 0:55:18Well...
0:55:18 > 0:55:20my family didn't keep boxes,
0:55:20 > 0:55:23so it was only wrapped in a, sort of,
0:55:23 > 0:55:25soft cloth covering
0:55:25 > 0:55:28and I shoved it into my little safe -
0:55:28 > 0:55:30which was rather small,
0:55:30 > 0:55:33bit hard - and it, sort of, got knocked.
0:55:33 > 0:55:37So, in other words, an absolutely pristine, perfect Faberge box...
0:55:37 > 0:55:38I know.
0:55:38 > 0:55:40..you SHOVE IN to your safe.
0:55:40 > 0:55:43So, there is a little bit of a defect in one corner...
0:55:43 > 0:55:45- Yes.- ..but not absolutely terrifying
0:55:45 > 0:55:46because I think, these days,
0:55:46 > 0:55:49with the sophistication of craftsmen and workshops,
0:55:49 > 0:55:51you could get that repaired...
0:55:51 > 0:55:55- Oh, great.- ..and it should be repaired as well.- Oh, right.
0:55:55 > 0:55:56Has it been valued?
0:55:56 > 0:56:01Years ago, when my father first gave it to me, 35 years ago,
0:56:01 > 0:56:04I took it to London and had it valued
0:56:04 > 0:56:06and I was told it was worth £900 -
0:56:06 > 0:56:08that was before its damage.
0:56:08 > 0:56:10So, in perfect condition, it was valued...
0:56:10 > 0:56:12- Absolutely perfect condition... - ..at £900.
0:56:12 > 0:56:14..with more cigarettes in it, I may say.
0:56:14 > 0:56:16With more cigarettes. So, what's it worth today?
0:56:16 > 0:56:17No idea.
0:56:19 > 0:56:21- £6,000 to £8,000. - AUDIENCE GASPS
0:56:21 > 0:56:22No?!
0:56:22 > 0:56:24I'm amazed.
0:56:25 > 0:56:27Lovely.
0:56:27 > 0:56:29Amazing.
0:56:31 > 0:56:32Do you remember the chap who told us
0:56:32 > 0:56:34earlier in the programme, so movingly,
0:56:34 > 0:56:37about his father who he discovered
0:56:37 > 0:56:38was actually an American GI
0:56:38 > 0:56:41and he only found out when he was in his 50s?
0:56:41 > 0:56:44Well, the other thing he showed me was this marvellous document.
0:56:44 > 0:56:45I want to show it to you.
0:56:45 > 0:56:50"Over there: Instructions for American servicemen in Britain 1942."
0:56:50 > 0:56:52Presumably something his father read.
0:56:52 > 0:56:53There's two marvellous bits in it.
0:56:53 > 0:56:54First of all,
0:56:54 > 0:56:56"The British are tough."
0:56:56 > 0:56:59"The English language didn't spread across the oceans
0:56:59 > 0:57:02"and over the mountains and jungles, and swamps of the world
0:57:02 > 0:57:04"because these people were panty-waists."
0:57:04 > 0:57:07And then, one other golden nugget of advice.
0:57:07 > 0:57:09"When you see a girl in khaki or air force blue
0:57:09 > 0:57:11"with a bit of ribbon on her tunic, remember,
0:57:11 > 0:57:15"she didn't get it for knitting more socks than anyone else in Ipswich."
0:57:15 > 0:57:18How brilliant. These are rules you could live by.
0:57:18 > 0:57:21From Bowood House, and the whole Antiques Roadshow team,
0:57:21 > 0:57:23till next time, bye-bye.