The Royal Hall Harrogate 1

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0:00:37 > 0:00:40Today the roadshow's arrived in a town that boasts a greater

0:00:40 > 0:00:43variety of mineral waters, bubbling away under the surface,

0:00:43 > 0:00:47than have been discovered anywhere else in the world.

0:00:47 > 0:00:5089 in total. Many of them around here.

0:00:50 > 0:00:54Welcome to The Antiques Roadshow from Harrogate in North Yorkshire.

0:01:01 > 0:01:05Taking the waters, as people have done here for over 400 years,

0:01:05 > 0:01:07is known as the Harrogate cure.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10And in 1871 at The Pump Room was built,

0:01:10 > 0:01:13and early risers would congregate here

0:01:13 > 0:01:17for a libation of foul-smelling, sulphurous mineral water

0:01:17 > 0:01:20to be taken with a gulp and a grimace.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22And it's pretty whiffy even now.

0:01:24 > 0:01:27It was thought the best time to drink the waters

0:01:27 > 0:01:30was in the morning between 7am and 9:30am.

0:01:30 > 0:01:33So seriously was this taken that the roads around The Pump Room

0:01:33 > 0:01:37were closed as the alfresco scene unfolded to allow safe

0:01:37 > 0:01:40and easy access to the wonder cure within.

0:01:43 > 0:01:46By 1897 The Royal Baths were built.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Harrogate, which was already the most popular spa town

0:01:48 > 0:01:51in the country, could now offer water-based treatment

0:01:51 > 0:01:56beyond compare and some, frankly, beyond comprehension.

0:01:56 > 0:01:59Take the Schnee 4-Cell bath.

0:01:59 > 0:02:02HUMMING SOUND It looks like an electric chair, because it is.

0:02:02 > 0:02:05It was thought that a mild electric current would aid

0:02:05 > 0:02:07the absorption of minerals.

0:02:08 > 0:02:11In search of cures and eternal youth,

0:02:11 > 0:02:14health tourists flocked to the Turkish baths, making Harrogate

0:02:14 > 0:02:19wealthier than all the other spa towns in the country put together.

0:02:19 > 0:02:24And amid this Moorish splendour, over 40 treatments were available.

0:02:25 > 0:02:30From extremely vigorous massages, plunge pools, peat baths,

0:02:30 > 0:02:33dry heat rooms and inhaling chambers.

0:02:35 > 0:02:39Many of these were available on the NHS up to 1969.

0:02:39 > 0:02:43The pilgrims in search of Harrogate's medicinal elixir of life

0:02:43 > 0:02:47needed entertaining during that time of healing and relaxation,

0:02:47 > 0:02:50so they'd come to The Royal Hall, or Kursaal,

0:02:50 > 0:02:52a German word meaning cure hall.

0:02:52 > 0:02:56And all life was here, there were tea dances, wrestling,

0:02:56 > 0:02:59performing seals, political rallies, you name it, and today,

0:02:59 > 0:03:02we're providing some entertainment of our own

0:03:02 > 0:03:05as our specialists welcome the good people of Harrogate.

0:03:07 > 0:03:10The first thing I noticed was this very dull cover here.

0:03:10 > 0:03:15You've got two volumes covered in this cloth here, but the minute one

0:03:15 > 0:03:21strips off the cover, you get this wonderful crushed red Rocco binding.

0:03:21 > 0:03:25Which reads, "Virtues and victories, volume one"

0:03:25 > 0:03:28and there are two volumes. Tell me where you got them.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30- I bought them at an auction. - All right.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32- I wasn't planning on doing.- Right.

0:03:32 > 0:03:34I was looking for something else

0:03:34 > 0:03:36and found these in a box with some pottery.

0:03:36 > 0:03:41- Right.- Assuming initially that they were just prints, not watercolours.

0:03:41 > 0:03:43And I just thought they were beautiful.

0:03:43 > 0:03:45I had a certain amount of money on me,

0:03:45 > 0:03:49and I thought, if I don't go for too much, I might just have a go.

0:03:49 > 0:03:53You thought these prints, and I'm opening the first volume here...

0:03:53 > 0:03:56- Yes, I thought they were prints. - ..we turn to the first frontispiece,

0:03:56 > 0:04:00the most fantastic illustration here. You thought this was a print?

0:04:00 > 0:04:04- At first glance, yes, I did. - Yes. This is extraordinary.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07- I mean, this is an original watercolour.- Yeah.

0:04:07 > 0:04:10And it dates, obviously, from about 1900.

0:04:10 > 0:04:12It's so typical of this period,

0:04:12 > 0:04:17but absolutely crammed full of these illustrations.

0:04:17 > 0:04:20Now, the lady who did it, if I go back to the introduction,

0:04:20 > 0:04:24- this is somebody called Clarice... what?- I think it's Creswell.

0:04:24 > 0:04:26- Creswell?- Creswell.- Creswell.

0:04:26 > 0:04:29And she says why she did it here,

0:04:29 > 0:04:34she gave all these pictures and she was doing this for a charity?

0:04:34 > 0:04:36I think so, for this reverend

0:04:36 > 0:04:40and for the children in the hope that the children would

0:04:40 > 0:04:42look at the books at a later date and probably learn something.

0:04:42 > 0:04:46Well, quite frankly I worry about giving the children these

0:04:46 > 0:04:49fantastic volumes, which are so beautiful.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52That's volume one, this is volume two. Look at the frontispiece.

0:04:52 > 0:04:56This is just, well, it's heavenly, isn't it?

0:04:56 > 0:04:58Absolutely heavenly.

0:04:58 > 0:05:01They've all got their own little thing, but they have a story

0:05:01 > 0:05:02- and then there's the picture.- Yes.

0:05:02 > 0:05:04And obviously it's sort of a teaching,

0:05:04 > 0:05:07a religious teaching, but again it's all handwritten by the looks of it.

0:05:07 > 0:05:12- The calligraphy is not as brilliant as the illustration.- No.

0:05:12 > 0:05:15But the illustrations themselves are just absolutely, I mean,

0:05:15 > 0:05:16world-class, really.

0:05:16 > 0:05:20They are so detailed, almost miniature paintings.

0:05:20 > 0:05:23I've got to ask you, how much did you pay for them?

0:05:23 > 0:05:24£35.

0:05:24 > 0:05:26£35.

0:05:26 > 0:05:30- And they were sold with the pottery and all the rest of it.- Yes.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32Look at this. All right, this is very romantic

0:05:32 > 0:05:36and it's very religious, but it's a beautifully posed piece.

0:05:36 > 0:05:42All these wonderful illustrations, they go on and on and on.

0:05:42 > 0:05:45They're sentimental, they're religious and some of them

0:05:45 > 0:05:48are just absolutely explosively beautiful.

0:05:48 > 0:05:49Um...

0:05:49 > 0:05:52- HE SIGHS - £35.

0:05:52 > 0:05:54And how long have you had them?

0:05:54 > 0:05:55About a year.

0:05:55 > 0:05:58Right. Well, I think they're worth

0:05:58 > 0:06:02somewhere in the region of £3,000 to £5,000.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04GASPING IN BACKGROUND

0:06:06 > 0:06:07Right...

0:06:09 > 0:06:10- OK! - LAUGHTER

0:06:12 > 0:06:13Not quite expecting that.

0:06:15 > 0:06:18Almost the ultimate toy for a boy.

0:06:18 > 0:06:22This magnificent locomotive Princess Elizabeth,

0:06:22 > 0:06:25made by Hornby, O-gauge...

0:06:25 > 0:06:27Was this a present for you?

0:06:27 > 0:06:32No, it was just one that my father, he just got it from somewhere,

0:06:32 > 0:06:35because I had two more brothers as well.

0:06:35 > 0:06:37And every time we played with it,

0:06:37 > 0:06:40he had to be there, we never got it out on our own.

0:06:40 > 0:06:42Maybe he bought it for himself rather than for you.

0:06:42 > 0:06:46Well, quite possibly. Quite possibly, yes, yes.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48Because it's in cracking condition.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51- And you weren't allowed to play with it by yourself?- No, no, no.

0:06:51 > 0:06:54I know you've come along with many, many bags

0:06:54 > 0:06:56and in the bags we've seen...

0:06:56 > 0:06:57goods wagons,

0:06:57 > 0:07:00passenger coaches, accessories.

0:07:00 > 0:07:03This particular model was made in a limited edition,

0:07:03 > 0:07:05it came in its original presentation box

0:07:05 > 0:07:08and although it hasn't got it now, along the lid on the inside

0:07:08 > 0:07:10would've been a bit of the history behind it,

0:07:10 > 0:07:13but certainly it's a rare piece,

0:07:13 > 0:07:16anything that's limited edition is more desirable.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18When we're talking about values and collectors,

0:07:18 > 0:07:21they want to find toys in this condition.

0:07:21 > 0:07:26Little tiny bits of scratches, but apart from that, wonderful.

0:07:26 > 0:07:29So we're talking about a value at auction for this alone,

0:07:29 > 0:07:32the loco, between 2,000 and £3,000.

0:07:32 > 0:07:35The overall collection is going to easily be worth

0:07:35 > 0:07:38- between 4,000 and £6,000.- Wow.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41- Get it out occasionally and have a quick play.- Yeah?

0:07:41 > 0:07:43- He can't stop you now.- No.

0:07:43 > 0:07:45- JON LAUGHS - Thank you very much indeed.

0:07:46 > 0:07:50Well, a beautiful gold tooled leather box with a very

0:07:50 > 0:07:53enigmatic stamp on the front.

0:07:53 > 0:07:57It's a Royal Crown, June 1,902.

0:07:57 > 0:07:59- What does it mean?- I have no idea.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01Well, I'm not sure that I do, really!

0:08:01 > 0:08:04What I'd absolutely hoped was that the content would refer to the

0:08:04 > 0:08:06coronation of King Edward VII,

0:08:06 > 0:08:09but unfortunately it was some months before he was crowned.

0:08:09 > 0:08:13We're going to look inside and see the most ravishing brooch

0:08:13 > 0:08:16in the form of a darting kingfisher,

0:08:16 > 0:08:17with its prey in its beak.

0:08:17 > 0:08:21- Do you enjoy it?- I love it. - Yes.- I love it very much.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24It's been in our family, obviously, well, since my grandmother

0:08:24 > 0:08:28got engaged to my grandfather and then it's been handed down

0:08:28 > 0:08:32through the family to me and it's just been very special to all of us.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35Kingfisher is the emblem of my family.

0:08:35 > 0:08:38- Ah-ha.- My father is a Fisher.

0:08:38 > 0:08:42- I see.- Quite a lot of our silver has got the Fisher emblem on it.

0:08:42 > 0:08:43How marvellous.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46So, actually, in a way I shouldn't even have it

0:08:46 > 0:08:48- because I'm not a Fisher any more. - You're not a Fisher!

0:08:48 > 0:08:50But it will go back to the Fishers.

0:08:50 > 0:08:55It comes out on special occasions, weddings and even family funerals.

0:08:55 > 0:08:59- Oh, family funerals? It's a talisman, isn't it?- That's right.

0:08:59 > 0:09:01- Brilliant.- Brings us all together.

0:09:01 > 0:09:03Yes, and it's an absolute triumph of jeweller's art

0:09:03 > 0:09:06and it's existing on two or three levels, first of all the model

0:09:06 > 0:09:08of the brooch has to be made by hand,

0:09:08 > 0:09:13every part of the anatomy of this meticulously-observed brooch,

0:09:13 > 0:09:15and then it was given to the enameller,

0:09:15 > 0:09:20who applied the different colours of enamel at different temperatures

0:09:20 > 0:09:23and hand-painted them and then when that process is done,

0:09:23 > 0:09:24then the diamonds are set,

0:09:24 > 0:09:27so there's three levels of achievement here.

0:09:27 > 0:09:30And it's done with such accuracy and such vivacity

0:09:30 > 0:09:33and I'm completely intoxicated by it, I must say.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36I feel in a sense this is a royal gift.

0:09:36 > 0:09:38I don't think anybody would dare to put the Royal Crown

0:09:38 > 0:09:40above the date and the initials

0:09:40 > 0:09:43without it coming from a very distinguished hand.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46And I have absolutely no idea who that is.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49It's very, very tempting and enigmatic

0:09:49 > 0:09:52and as it is, it's a highly decorative masterpiece

0:09:52 > 0:09:56of early 20th-century jewellery. It's very valuable.

0:09:56 > 0:09:59It's nothing to do with the diamonds, really.

0:09:59 > 0:10:01It's everything to do with this darting, flashing,

0:10:01 > 0:10:05miraculous bird that is part of our national identity, really.

0:10:05 > 0:10:10And so I don't flinch from saying this is worth, well, £3,000.

0:10:10 > 0:10:11Wow.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13- That's pretty good! - THEY LAUGH

0:10:15 > 0:10:17It looks a perfect place for the cat to sit on.

0:10:17 > 0:10:19No, they don't really like it.

0:10:19 > 0:10:22They prefer the sofas. I think it might be a bit too narrow for them.

0:10:22 > 0:10:25It doesn't look very comfortable. Have you sat in it? Do you use it?

0:10:25 > 0:10:26We do use it.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29I'm generally the one that gets to sit on it, cos I'm the youngest.

0:10:29 > 0:10:32Where does it come from? What do you know about it?

0:10:32 > 0:10:35My grandmother bought it from an antique shop

0:10:35 > 0:10:37on the Isle of Wight sometime between the wars.

0:10:37 > 0:10:41My mother claims that she's seen something like it once,

0:10:41 > 0:10:44but that was in Poland about 40 years ago.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47Other than that, we really don't know anything about it at all.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49It's interesting, it's the sort of chair you see quite

0:10:49 > 0:10:53often in Victorian photographs, especially continental ones.

0:10:53 > 0:10:56You know, where, people posing on them,

0:10:56 > 0:10:58very elaborate carved chairs.

0:10:58 > 0:11:01This is based on a Savannah roller chair,

0:11:01 > 0:11:0516th and 17th century Italian chair and a lot of them fold up,

0:11:05 > 0:11:09this one doesn't, it's made really as a set piece, just for fun.

0:11:09 > 0:11:12- It's not the prettiest thing, is it? - Well, we do call it the ugly chair.

0:11:12 > 0:11:15- The ugly chair. Why is it the ugly chair?- That is its family name.

0:11:15 > 0:11:20- Yeah.- I think my mother called it that when she was small.

0:11:20 > 0:11:25- My brother hates it and I love it. It think it's just mad.- So do I.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28I can just see that in a museum catalogue, the ugly chair.

0:11:28 > 0:11:30Yes, absolutely.

0:11:30 > 0:11:34These are based on a 17th-century Venetian design, somebody called

0:11:34 > 0:11:37Andrea Brustolon, who carved figures rather like this

0:11:37 > 0:11:39on the edge of chairs.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41It's all harking back to the 17th century.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44I notice, just before we go any further,

0:11:44 > 0:11:46there's a bit of damage here. What's happened here?

0:11:46 > 0:11:50- He lost his foot, unfortunately. - Yeah.- That one's quite recent. Um...

0:11:50 > 0:11:52Where's the piece?

0:11:52 > 0:11:55Well, I put it away safely because I didn't have any wood glue

0:11:55 > 0:11:57when I noticed it had happened.

0:11:57 > 0:12:00Unfortunately I forgot to tell anybody else I put it away safely

0:12:00 > 0:12:03- and it now isn't in the safe place. - Disappeared?

0:12:03 > 0:12:04- Yes.- Ah.

0:12:04 > 0:12:08I do advise people to do this job immediately, or get one of those

0:12:08 > 0:12:11cellophane bags and tie it to it and then you will do it,

0:12:11 > 0:12:14because it so often happens. That's quite a...

0:12:14 > 0:12:16quite an expensive repair,

0:12:16 > 0:12:19- to now re-carve that.- Yeah. - Well, mind you, he's lost...

0:12:19 > 0:12:22- It's a balance... - THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER

0:12:22 > 0:12:26The date of this, it's not 17th century, it's copying or emulating,

0:12:26 > 0:12:31in a very eclectic manner, the 17th century, made in around 1,900.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35- Oh, right. OK.- What's not quite so obvious is the nationality.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38I would actually go for, not Italian, but southern French.

0:12:38 > 0:12:42Sort of Nice, somewhere like that. And you know the wood, of course?

0:12:42 > 0:12:46- No, I don't.- Know your wood? Walnut. Really nice quality walnut.- Right.

0:12:46 > 0:12:50So, it's a good, fun chair. Um, comfortable?

0:12:50 > 0:12:51Yeah, actually.

0:12:51 > 0:12:54- More comfortable than you think. - Surprisingly comfortable, yes.

0:12:54 > 0:12:58Certainly doesn't look it to me. Um, it's not going to...

0:12:59 > 0:13:02be really worth the price of a new sofa, I don't think.

0:13:02 > 0:13:03I wouldn't have expected it to be.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06The cats are probably quite right, to go for the sofa.

0:13:06 > 0:13:08You know, it's £500-£800

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- at the most, something like that.- Excellent.

0:13:11 > 0:13:14- Well, thank you very much. At least I now know what it is.- Yeah.

0:13:17 > 0:13:18This came with another goblet

0:13:18 > 0:13:22- and I think I bartered it down to £180.- OK.

0:13:22 > 0:13:25That, over £100.

0:13:25 > 0:13:30- That one makes me wince. - Ouch. Tell me.- Mm, 850.

0:13:30 > 0:13:32Ow. Yeah, you paid the dollars there.

0:13:32 > 0:13:35- Is it something you've had in the family for years?- No, no.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38- We acquired it about six years ago. - Oh, really?

0:13:38 > 0:13:41- When my sister bought a property in Harrogate.- Oh, in Harrogate?

0:13:41 > 0:13:44- So it turned up in Harrogate. - Absolutely.- You know this is French?

0:13:44 > 0:13:47- Yes.- And it's made by Louis Vuitton, the famous Louis Vuitton?- Yes.

0:13:47 > 0:13:51- Here is Antonio Salviati.- Ah.

0:13:51 > 0:13:55Antonio Salviati almost single-handedly

0:13:55 > 0:13:58rescued and rejuvenated the Murano glass industry

0:13:58 > 0:14:02from about 1860s, '70s onwards.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04This is Clichy.

0:14:05 > 0:14:10Spangled glass, very high quality, 1860, French.

0:14:10 > 0:14:15He made his money, Louis Vuitton, from designing this flat trunk

0:14:15 > 0:14:18for long voyages on steamers and things,

0:14:18 > 0:14:20because previously to that, trunks had rounded tops

0:14:20 > 0:14:23so the water could slide off, but they couldn't be stacked.

0:14:23 > 0:14:27Your wild, money-splashing

0:14:27 > 0:14:30Galle, 1890, 1895.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33Very nice, the colour is so good on this

0:14:33 > 0:14:37and if you twizzle that around, that's beautiful.

0:14:37 > 0:14:39I think one like this would make between...

0:14:40 > 0:14:441,500 and maybe on a good day,

0:14:44 > 0:14:47- £2,500.- Wow.

0:14:48 > 0:14:49Gosh.

0:14:49 > 0:14:53So, on these ones, I mean, you know, 200.

0:14:53 > 0:14:59- Clichy, this is going to be 200 to 250, thereabout.- Thank you.

0:14:59 > 0:15:04And the Galle, I think your intuition is absolutely right.

0:15:04 > 0:15:08I think you've overpaid. This is just ahead of the money.

0:15:08 > 0:15:12My advice to you is maintain the quality by reducing the cash,

0:15:12 > 0:15:14you will seriously be in heaven.

0:15:14 > 0:15:16My husband will love you.

0:15:19 > 0:15:24Now, when I was growing up, my dad, every month or so,

0:15:24 > 0:15:26would get out a little steam engine,

0:15:26 > 0:15:30you'd put the little burning fire-starter underneath,

0:15:30 > 0:15:32wait for five minutes and you'd hear, almost

0:15:32 > 0:15:36the sort of pathetic pop, pop, pop, pop, as it started to warm up.

0:15:36 > 0:15:41And then you turn up and pretty much ruin all my childhood memories!

0:15:41 > 0:15:45HOW have you managed to get hold of this?

0:15:45 > 0:15:46This is, yes, a boyhood dream.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48Not only does it have a steam engine,

0:15:48 > 0:15:53it has lots of individual machines that all work, in great detail.

0:15:53 > 0:15:58I was very lucky enough to acquire this when the Health And Safety

0:15:58 > 0:16:02Museum in London, run by the Health And Safety Executive,

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- closed in 1980.- Mm.- So I was in the right place at the right time.

0:16:05 > 0:16:08Wow. And you bought it from them or they gave it to you...?

0:16:08 > 0:16:10- They gave it to me, basically.- Wow.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13So this model really shows...

0:16:13 > 0:16:16the factory floor of the mid 19th century.

0:16:16 > 0:16:20You've got lathes and pulleys going, two buffers, grinders...

0:16:20 > 0:16:24- What is it you like about it? - I love the intricacy of it.

0:16:24 > 0:16:28- It's perfect in every detail. I do like mechanical things.- Mm.

0:16:28 > 0:16:29And this is from the days

0:16:29 > 0:16:33when prime movers were, like a water wheel or a windmill.

0:16:33 > 0:16:38- Here we've got a steam engine. - And when was it made?- 1936.

0:16:38 > 0:16:43So he's really sort of looking back at what machinery was like then.

0:16:43 > 0:16:47If you were doing a talk on health and safety or what not to do,

0:16:47 > 0:16:51this if the model you would use, because nothing, there's no guards.

0:16:51 > 0:16:54You think of something as simple as a tie,

0:16:54 > 0:16:56you wear a tie at work, it goes in,

0:16:56 > 0:16:59get sucked into the belt, does a lot of damage.

0:16:59 > 0:17:01So it's staggering how much these things

0:17:01 > 0:17:03have sort of moved forward. Now,

0:17:03 > 0:17:07I haven't actually run it yet, but I wanted to wait. So...

0:17:09 > 0:17:12So here you see all the belts distributing the power

0:17:12 > 0:17:14to individual machines.

0:17:14 > 0:17:16To turn this one on, we move the belt across here.

0:17:20 > 0:17:22It's just, it's amazing.

0:17:22 > 0:17:26Hundreds of hours of work would've gone into it.

0:17:26 > 0:17:27Very much so.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30Look at this oil can, perfect in every detail.

0:17:30 > 0:17:34That, I was looking at that earlier, and that's actually

0:17:34 > 0:17:38one of my favourites because it's still, it actually works.

0:17:38 > 0:17:43- It does, yes.- OK. You see these turn up for sale,

0:17:43 > 0:17:44but not like this one.

0:17:44 > 0:17:46You're going to struggle to find anything better,

0:17:46 > 0:17:49if you're looking for this type of model.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52Auction estimate, I would say, easily,

0:17:52 > 0:17:55£8,000-£12,000.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58Wow. I didn't think it was that much.

0:17:58 > 0:17:59Mm.

0:17:59 > 0:18:02That's pretty staggering. Mm.

0:18:04 > 0:18:08This is a very, very elegant clock. Whereabouts do you have it at home?

0:18:08 > 0:18:10I have it in my sitting room.

0:18:10 > 0:18:13- OK, on a mantelpiece or on a table?- No, just on a table.

0:18:13 > 0:18:16It's very interesting you don't have it on a mantelpiece.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19Because it is tall and narrow.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22- Right.- If you had a mirror or a picture,

0:18:22 > 0:18:25this would impinge on, at the very least, the bottom of the frame...

0:18:25 > 0:18:26Exactly, exactly.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28But I love it.

0:18:29 > 0:18:31What sort of date do you reckon it is?

0:18:31 > 0:18:34I really have no idea. 1800s?

0:18:34 > 0:18:35That's a guess.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38That's a wide guess, 1800s, I love it but you're spot on,

0:18:38 > 0:18:42it is actually of course French and it's late Empire,

0:18:42 > 0:18:46- it's dating from about 1810 to 1815.- Right.

0:18:46 > 0:18:48In the family for long, or a recent acquisition?

0:18:48 > 0:18:50Not in the family for that long.

0:18:50 > 0:18:54My father bought it, actually after he divorced my mother.

0:18:54 > 0:18:58He started to buy clocks when he no longer had her to look after.

0:18:58 > 0:19:03Hey, that's a great one. I like that. I like that. Now,

0:19:03 > 0:19:07let's just very briefly look at it, lovely white enamel dial,

0:19:07 > 0:19:11hands are original and the movement, that gives me

0:19:11 > 0:19:14the excuse to show you what we call the silk suspension.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16You've obviously got a bit of cotton thread here.

0:19:16 > 0:19:19But the pendulum is suspended by a little loop of thread

0:19:19 > 0:19:21which you can make go slower or faster

0:19:21 > 0:19:23- with this knob here.- Yes.

0:19:23 > 0:19:26- OK? You can see that it's open to the elements.- Yes.

0:19:26 > 0:19:30Originally, this would've had a glass dome. Do you recall that?

0:19:30 > 0:19:33It had a glass dome over the top of it.

0:19:33 > 0:19:34- We...- What happened to that?

0:19:34 > 0:19:39When we were winding it up one day my husband stood on it and it broke.

0:19:39 > 0:19:42- He stood on it? Is that him there? - Yes, that is.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45This could be an excuse to get rid of HIM

0:19:45 > 0:19:47- and buy more clocks, couldn't it? - SHE LAUGHS

0:19:47 > 0:19:50- So we no longer have the dome part. - What a shame.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52It's actually a very difficult thing to replace,

0:19:52 > 0:19:54something slender and tall.

0:19:54 > 0:19:57So the only option you have would be to buy something...

0:19:57 > 0:20:02Victorian selection of dried flowers or a stuffed bird or something...

0:20:02 > 0:20:06That's originally what it was. It was a stuffed bird.

0:20:06 > 0:20:10- Not cage, Dome.- Dome. So it was never the original...?- No.

0:20:10 > 0:20:12But it would have had. And it would have been stunning.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14And you have got obviously the gilt bronze,

0:20:14 > 0:20:17and you've got the patinated bronze, particularly the swans

0:20:17 > 0:20:20with their lovely necks, drinking from the fountain.

0:20:20 > 0:20:24And the lyre shape is just lovely, it's totally at peace with itself,

0:20:24 > 0:20:28it's a very, very elegant clock and I could see, at a decent fair,

0:20:28 > 0:20:30or in a decent shop, you'd have to pay, retail,

0:20:30 > 0:20:33between £4,000 and £5,000.

0:20:33 > 0:20:38- Gosh.- So...- I'm sure he didn't pay that much.- Well hopefully not.

0:20:38 > 0:20:40No, hopefully not.

0:20:40 > 0:20:43And keep a hold on your husband there,

0:20:43 > 0:20:46because I think he is worth more than the glass dome.

0:20:46 > 0:20:47- Thank you.- Thanks.

0:20:49 > 0:20:54It may not be immediately apparent what this bust is made from.

0:20:54 > 0:20:57It's actually made from a kind of black stoneware

0:20:57 > 0:20:59which is called black basalt.

0:20:59 > 0:21:02So it is a kind of pottery.

0:21:02 > 0:21:04And it is a library bust.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07Imagine a beautiful grand country house,

0:21:07 > 0:21:10and in that house is a beautiful panelled library

0:21:10 > 0:21:12with glorious bookshelves.

0:21:12 > 0:21:14And on top of the shelves, the idea,

0:21:14 > 0:21:18you would have these busts of great figures from classical antiquity.

0:21:18 > 0:21:23This would show everybody that you knew all about classical mythology,

0:21:23 > 0:21:24that you were an educated man.

0:21:24 > 0:21:27- Yes.- What do you know about it?

0:21:27 > 0:21:30Well, my grandmother acquired it when she was about 18 or 20.

0:21:30 > 0:21:35Her music teacher had a copy of Mercury on her piano.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38Her husband worked for Wedgwood, the potter.

0:21:38 > 0:21:42And my grandmother admired it so much

0:21:42 > 0:21:45her husband said he could get here another one.

0:21:45 > 0:21:46And he did.

0:21:46 > 0:21:49Because at that time, Wedgwood were making these

0:21:49 > 0:21:53and she paid £5 for it, I believe, which was amazing.

0:21:53 > 0:21:56This was 100 years ago, by the way.

0:21:56 > 0:21:58- You can just see under the shoulder there.- Yes, absolutely.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01It says Wedgwood, and then Mercury,

0:22:01 > 0:22:04- because he represents the god Mercury.- Yes, that's right.

0:22:04 > 0:22:06We all call him Freddie, after Freddie of Queen.

0:22:06 > 0:22:09- Freddie Mercury, of course. - Absolutely.

0:22:09 > 0:22:13And when I was a child, my mum... my grandmother used to get very upset

0:22:13 > 0:22:16by my uncles putting their hats and ties round his neck.

0:22:16 > 0:22:19- Oh, I see, an old school tie for somebody.- Yes, yes.

0:22:19 > 0:22:24He wasn't treated very reverently. But I come from the Potteries area.

0:22:24 > 0:22:27And all the people in the Potteries when I was a child

0:22:27 > 0:22:30had bits of Wedgwood around their houses

0:22:30 > 0:22:34that were obviously, I think, what we would call "seconds" today.

0:22:34 > 0:22:36And I always wondered

0:22:36 > 0:22:38whether this beautiful young man was actually a second.

0:22:38 > 0:22:43Well, a couple of things. First of all, this was about 100 years ago...

0:22:43 > 0:22:45Yes, my grandmother would have been 18 of 20

0:22:45 > 0:22:46and she was born in 1900,

0:22:46 > 0:22:48so it would be just less than 100 years ago.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50Well, the bust is actually older than that.

0:22:50 > 0:22:52Because it would say, it would have an England mark on it,

0:22:52 > 0:22:56or a "Made in England" mark, if it was made in the 20th century.

0:22:56 > 0:22:58In my opinion he is mid-19th century.

0:22:58 > 0:23:01So he may have been 50 years old when he was acquired by your granny.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04- Oh, wow.- It may have been old stock, for all we know.- Yes, yes.

0:23:04 > 0:23:06But I did notice, he's got these little spots here.

0:23:06 > 0:23:08That's right. A little bit of chest acne.

0:23:08 > 0:23:11- Yes, chest acne, that's a good description, isn't it?- Yes, yes.

0:23:11 > 0:23:16That may be the reason, maybe, why he was sold slightly cheaply,

0:23:16 > 0:23:18- I don't know.- Right, right.

0:23:18 > 0:23:19He is not the earliest model,

0:23:19 > 0:23:22these were first produced in the 18th century.

0:23:22 > 0:23:27- Right.- But even so he is worth £800-£1200.- Right. Brilliant.

0:23:27 > 0:23:29But that doesn't...

0:23:29 > 0:23:33You know, I just love him, because he is such a beautiful young man.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38My first visit ever to York was in 1963.

0:23:38 > 0:23:41When I was there somebody said to me,

0:23:41 > 0:23:44"Whatever else you do you must go to Betty's Tearoom." So I did.

0:23:44 > 0:23:48So I then became aware of this great Yorkshire institution.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51Let's begin with what we've got here. Who is he?

0:23:51 > 0:23:55This is my Great Uncle Frederick, who founded the business.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58It all started in 1906,

0:23:58 > 0:24:02when my great uncle arrived on these shores from Switzerland.

0:24:02 > 0:24:05He didn't speak a word of English, he had no money,

0:24:05 > 0:24:08and no job, only the skills he had learnt, that he had in his hands,

0:24:08 > 0:24:10the craft of baking confectionery.

0:24:10 > 0:24:12So it is a classic immigration story.

0:24:12 > 0:24:15He started with nothing, he married a local girl,

0:24:15 > 0:24:18and in 1919 they started a business together.

0:24:18 > 0:24:2117 years later he is travelling first class

0:24:21 > 0:24:24with the glitterati and the aristocracy,

0:24:24 > 0:24:27first class on the maiden voyage of the Queen Mary to New York.

0:24:27 > 0:24:31- It is a great story. So there is money in cakes?- Well, obviously.

0:24:31 > 0:24:35- It took him a long time to get there, but he splashed out.- OK.

0:24:35 > 0:24:39- And this is him with his wife?- That is his wife, my Auntie Bunny.- OK.

0:24:39 > 0:24:43So there they are, on the Queen Mary, crossing the Atlantic.

0:24:43 > 0:24:47Now, this was obviously a great moment in British maritime history.

0:24:47 > 0:24:51When we fought back against the French and Germans and Italians,

0:24:51 > 0:24:56and we captured the Blue Riband with this wonderful Clyde-built ship.

0:24:56 > 0:25:00But here's somebody who was actually there on that great first voyage.

0:25:00 > 0:25:02Obviously this was an event

0:25:02 > 0:25:05covered with lots and lots of commemorative pizzazz.

0:25:05 > 0:25:08There was every sort of object you could imagine

0:25:08 > 0:25:11made to mark this great event.

0:25:11 > 0:25:13And of course things that were sold on the ship

0:25:13 > 0:25:17are quite different to those that were made for the mass-market.

0:25:17 > 0:25:20- So this was bought on the ship. - On the ship.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22Now this is a Nora Wellings doll.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25She was famous in the 1930s for making, basically,

0:25:25 > 0:25:28dolls in shipping uniform.

0:25:28 > 0:25:30All she had to do was change the hat band

0:25:30 > 0:25:33and of course they could then be applied to any ship.

0:25:33 > 0:25:35So they were made in large quantities

0:25:35 > 0:25:37and it was not just for the maiden voyage,

0:25:37 > 0:25:39these were stock for a long time.

0:25:39 > 0:25:42So you have got things here which we know were on the first voyage,

0:25:42 > 0:25:45because he bought them there.

0:25:45 > 0:25:48And he'd had such a wonderful time on the Queen Mary

0:25:48 > 0:25:50he wanted that to go on forever.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53So he called in the designers, the decorators,

0:25:53 > 0:25:56even the craftsmen from Glasgow who had worked on the Queen Mary

0:25:56 > 0:25:58and said, "I want that in the centre of York.

0:25:58 > 0:26:02"I want my own Queen Mary in the centre of York."

0:26:02 > 0:26:04And to this day, Betty's Tea Shop in York

0:26:04 > 0:26:07is a replica of some of the staterooms on the Queen Mary.

0:26:07 > 0:26:11OK, and that's it. So what is the value of what you got?

0:26:11 > 0:26:14Well, the value of these is they were on the first ship.

0:26:14 > 0:26:17The doll on its own is, in that condition, £100,

0:26:17 > 0:26:19you can double or treble that

0:26:19 > 0:26:23because it comes off the maiden voyage, the ship, likewise.

0:26:23 > 0:26:24Not great value,

0:26:24 > 0:26:28but wonderful things about bringing Art Deco to Yorkshire.

0:26:32 > 0:26:36Do you have a prized object from the golden age of travel?

0:26:36 > 0:26:41Glamorous luggage? Beautifully crafted car mascots?

0:26:41 > 0:26:45Perhaps a menu from the maiden voyage of a famous ship?

0:26:45 > 0:26:48Antiques Roadshow is planning a special edition

0:26:48 > 0:26:52and we are looking for outstanding stories that celebrate the era

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0:26:54 > 0:26:56The early days of air travel.

0:26:56 > 0:26:58Classic cars.

0:26:58 > 0:27:00And of course the steam age.

0:27:00 > 0:27:01We'll be recording an episode

0:27:01 > 0:27:05onboard the magnificent Flying Scotsman later this year.

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0:27:14 > 0:27:19Well, it's the most extraordinary Chinese bronze ure.

0:27:19 > 0:27:21Where on earth did you get it?

0:27:21 > 0:27:24Well, I first saw it 40 years ago when I married,

0:27:24 > 0:27:30- and my husband had bought the house from his father.- Yeah.

0:27:30 > 0:27:33So this had been sitting in there for years before that,

0:27:33 > 0:27:35so I've seen it for 40 years.

0:27:35 > 0:27:38You've seen it for 40 years and it's been hanging around before then?

0:27:38 > 0:27:43- Yes.- It is the most extraordinary animal forming the handle here.

0:27:43 > 0:27:47- The spout, in this case, is a phoenix head.- Right.

0:27:47 > 0:27:50And even the little feet, I don't know if you looked at them closely,

0:27:50 > 0:27:53the foot here, the top part of that is an eagle

0:27:53 > 0:27:56- and the bottom part is a bear.- Right.

0:27:56 > 0:27:58It sounds crazy but there is a meaning to that.

0:27:58 > 0:28:03The Chinese love wordplay and the word for an eagle is "Ying",

0:28:03 > 0:28:06and the bear is "Xoing", but... So you've got eagle, bear.

0:28:06 > 0:28:09If you put the two words together it has another meaning.

0:28:09 > 0:28:12So if you say Guanjun, It means "champion", or "winner".

0:28:12 > 0:28:15So they are raising this vessel and saying it is a champion,

0:28:15 > 0:28:17or a winning vessel, a great object.

0:28:17 > 0:28:22And the Chinese love doing that, they are very, very, very clever.

0:28:22 > 0:28:26- But what really interests me is this.- Yes. The inside bit, yes.

0:28:26 > 0:28:30- No, that label there. - Yes, the label, yes.

0:28:30 > 0:28:35- That says, from the collection of Lady MacDonald.- Yes.

0:28:35 > 0:28:36I don't know anything about that.

0:28:36 > 0:28:39- Have you ever watched the film, 55 Days In Peking?- No.

0:28:39 > 0:28:42- David Niven, Charlton Heston? - Oh, yes, I know of it.

0:28:42 > 0:28:47That was a film made about the siege of the British Legation

0:28:47 > 0:28:49in the Boxer Rebellion in 1900.

0:28:49 > 0:28:51- Right.- And guess what?

0:28:51 > 0:28:53This lady's husband, Claude MacDonald,

0:28:53 > 0:28:57- he was in charge of the British defences.- Really?- Yeah.

0:28:57 > 0:29:00- How fascinating. - This lady has a fabulous history.

0:29:00 > 0:29:04She actually addressed the Emperor Cixi, the Dowager Empress.

0:29:04 > 0:29:10- My gosh.- So assuming that this label is genuine...- Absolutely genuine.

0:29:10 > 0:29:14It gives it the most fabulously fascinating history

0:29:14 > 0:29:18- which really needs to be...- I only first saw it about 20 years ago.

0:29:18 > 0:29:19I hadn't lifted the lid off.

0:29:19 > 0:29:23Well I think that makes it such an interesting object.

0:29:23 > 0:29:25I mean, what is the object, is the other thing.

0:29:25 > 0:29:29I already said it is a Chinese bronze.

0:29:29 > 0:29:34- This shape goes back to the 3rd century BC.- Really?

0:29:34 > 0:29:38The Warring States Period. Just before the Han Dynasty.

0:29:38 > 0:29:41The Warring States Period in China.

0:29:41 > 0:29:45But I don't think this is a Warring States peace. The finish is wrong.

0:29:45 > 0:29:48There are various things about it.

0:29:48 > 0:29:49If you look closely,

0:29:49 > 0:29:52the silver and gold have been inlaid into the decoration.

0:29:52 > 0:29:55It is too stiff, it is too perfect, it is a very sophisticated thing.

0:29:55 > 0:29:56Right.

0:29:56 > 0:30:00So I think this is an 18th-century copy of a Warring States piece.

0:30:00 > 0:30:07- Still old then.- Oh, yeah, I reckon 250 years old.- Really?- Yeah.

0:30:07 > 0:30:09This wouldn't have been made to be used.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11This wasn't made as a teapot, or a wine ure.

0:30:11 > 0:30:15It was made as an object of art. I think it is a fabulous thing.

0:30:15 > 0:30:19There is so much you can say about this, I really like looking at it.

0:30:19 > 0:30:23- Thank you, I love it.- Without exploring the history any further

0:30:23 > 0:30:28- I'd put a value at auction in the region of £10,000.- You're joking!

0:30:28 > 0:30:30I thought it would be about £200!

0:30:30 > 0:30:34Looking into the provenance and whether we can establish

0:30:34 > 0:30:36that that is exactly is where it came from,

0:30:36 > 0:30:38it could be worth maybe double that.

0:30:38 > 0:30:41Oh, right, well, thank you very much. That's wonderful.

0:30:46 > 0:30:48This is such a bold composition.

0:30:48 > 0:30:51I think whenever you see an abstract picture

0:30:51 > 0:30:55which is predominantly white with just one little detail of red

0:30:55 > 0:30:59you know it has got to be by someone

0:30:59 > 0:31:02who had a real grasp of both colour and form.

0:31:02 > 0:31:05Can you tell us how you came across this amazing thing?

0:31:05 > 0:31:09I first came across this painting when it was first exhibited

0:31:09 > 0:31:11at the back of the university in Leeds.

0:31:11 > 0:31:15The artist, Frank Lyle, was a teacher at the local art college

0:31:15 > 0:31:19and I thought, "I really, really want that."

0:31:19 > 0:31:25It was out of my league, price-wise. £38.

0:31:25 > 0:31:30The title is "Robin in a Hawthorn Bush".

0:31:30 > 0:31:34And I love the title, because it is not a robin! It's just not!

0:31:34 > 0:31:38And it's not a hawthorn bush! It is angled, it's square!

0:31:38 > 0:31:41It is really hard to paint a good abstract picture

0:31:41 > 0:31:43and I think what Frank Lyle has done in this

0:31:43 > 0:31:45is just give us a little source material.

0:31:45 > 0:31:48He has told us it is a robin so we have that red spot.

0:31:48 > 0:31:50He has told us it is a hawthorn bush

0:31:50 > 0:31:53so you get all the detail, this geometric detail.

0:31:53 > 0:31:56It is a really competent picture.

0:31:56 > 0:31:58This is definitely somebody who knew what he was doing.

0:31:58 > 0:32:01What's really exciting though is that Frank Lyle,

0:32:01 > 0:32:04he taught at the Bradford College of Art.

0:32:04 > 0:32:08In fact, he was Head of Painting at the Bradford College of Art.

0:32:08 > 0:32:10And in the mid-1950s, aged 16,

0:32:10 > 0:32:14his most illustrious student was a very young David Hockney.

0:32:14 > 0:32:18Probably the most famous British living artist.

0:32:18 > 0:32:20Frank Lyle is relatively under the radar,

0:32:20 > 0:32:23probably because he spent most of his life teaching,

0:32:23 > 0:32:25but I think this illustrates is,

0:32:25 > 0:32:28from a young age, if you've got someone who is really confident,

0:32:28 > 0:32:31someone who is willing to push the boundaries with his own art,

0:32:31 > 0:32:35as a teacher that can really take the young artist on to great things.

0:32:35 > 0:32:40In terms of value, it was priced at £38 in 1972...

0:32:40 > 0:32:42I didn't pay that.

0:32:42 > 0:32:45- What did you pay?- £18.

0:32:45 > 0:32:47£18 in 1972?

0:32:47 > 0:32:50Well, after the exhibition, I couldn't afford it,

0:32:50 > 0:32:53I had a word and said, "Well, can I have it for 18?"

0:32:53 > 0:32:56Well you will be pleased to know today then,

0:32:56 > 0:32:58if we put that in auction we would probably put

0:32:58 > 0:33:00an estimate of £600-£800,

0:33:00 > 0:33:03and we would hope on a good day that that would make £1,000.

0:33:03 > 0:33:07- Excellent, thank you very much indeed.- Thank for bringing it in.

0:33:08 > 0:33:12MATCH OF THE DAY THEME TUNE PLAYS

0:33:12 > 0:33:14It was something of a surprise for our visitors at Harrogate

0:33:14 > 0:33:19when a rather special object arrived mid-morning on our roadshow day.

0:33:19 > 0:33:22With football's most prestigious cup competition in full swing

0:33:22 > 0:33:25here on the BBC, we were offered a rare opportunity

0:33:25 > 0:33:28to work with a very special piece of silver.

0:33:30 > 0:33:32None other than the FA Cup.

0:33:32 > 0:33:34Here it is, in all its splendour.

0:33:34 > 0:33:37Complete with Gabby Logan from BBC Sport, Eddie Gray,

0:33:37 > 0:33:40a very familiar face of course, manager of Leeds United

0:33:40 > 0:33:43and winner of the FA Cup as well, in 1972.

0:33:43 > 0:33:46Yeah, winner of the FA Cup, great day for everybody to play in it,

0:33:46 > 0:33:51and also win it, it was beyond your dreams.

0:33:51 > 0:33:54And Gabby, this particular one, because there are replicas,

0:33:54 > 0:33:56has a very special place

0:33:56 > 0:33:58in the heart of English football fans, doesn't it?

0:33:58 > 0:34:03This had a really long tenure because the FA Cup started 1872,

0:34:03 > 0:34:06this trophy started being used in 1911

0:34:06 > 0:34:08and then was put out of service in 1992.

0:34:08 > 0:34:11So that is a very long period of time...

0:34:11 > 0:34:13- But of course there's a very special day in the middle.- There is.

0:34:13 > 0:34:15The Sir Stanley Matthews FA Cup.

0:34:15 > 0:34:19So he has been one of the many greats to have held this aloft.

0:34:19 > 0:34:22But that is seen as one of the greatest examples, I think,

0:34:22 > 0:34:26of football, let alone the FA Cup, that match was so phenomenal.

0:34:26 > 0:34:28The FA Cup has always been like that.

0:34:28 > 0:34:32Some great names have held it up over the years...

0:34:32 > 0:34:33But what about you, Eddie?

0:34:33 > 0:34:37Obviously you were a player for Leeds, the 1972 final

0:34:37 > 0:34:38when you beat Arsenal,

0:34:38 > 0:34:41what is it like for a player to hold this cup aloft?

0:34:41 > 0:34:43It is terrific. Especially for the skipper.

0:34:43 > 0:34:47And I have got a little memento here, our captain, Billy Bremner,

0:34:47 > 0:34:50- and I'm stuck in there... - Look at that mop top!

0:34:50 > 0:34:51Yeah, with dark hair there!

0:34:51 > 0:34:54- Not sure that is going to be valued quite as highly as this!- No, no.

0:34:54 > 0:34:58I have also brought along the medal. The '72 medal.

0:34:58 > 0:35:01The FA Cup medal that we won that day.

0:35:01 > 0:35:03- And that is something that you treasure.- Absolutely beautiful.

0:35:03 > 0:35:07I get it out occasionally and have a look at it, you know? Days gone by.

0:35:07 > 0:35:11This cup was retired, as you say, Gabby, in 1992. Too fragile.

0:35:11 > 0:35:13I imagine, by lots of people holding it up aloft.

0:35:13 > 0:35:16And we've now got the fourth replica.

0:35:16 > 0:35:18And this one stays,

0:35:18 > 0:35:21most of the time, when it is not on the road here, it stays in Wembley.

0:35:21 > 0:35:23So people can go and see it.

0:35:23 > 0:35:25And, you know, when you look at it, it looks really robust, doesn't it?

0:35:25 > 0:35:28But as you say, it has been around a fair few hands,

0:35:28 > 0:35:30and players getting quite excited,

0:35:30 > 0:35:32I imagine, accidentally dropped occasionally, Eddie...

0:35:32 > 0:35:34It has been dropped on many occasions, yeah.

0:35:34 > 0:35:37Especially coming down the steps from Wembley,

0:35:37 > 0:35:40where they get presented, the top usually falls off, or...

0:35:40 > 0:35:43- But it is a wonderful trophy. - I noticed the top was a bit wonky!

0:35:43 > 0:35:45That will probably be why.

0:35:45 > 0:35:47And what is it we can help you with, Gabby,

0:35:47 > 0:35:49today, in terms of what you would like to know about the cup?

0:35:49 > 0:35:52It is absolutely stunning, and I just wonder how much it's worth.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54Can you put a value on something like this?

0:35:54 > 0:35:56Well, you are in the right place, naturally.

0:35:56 > 0:35:58One of our silver experts, Alistair Dickenson,

0:35:58 > 0:36:02not only knows everything there is to know about silver

0:36:02 > 0:36:05but is also a footballing aficionado, so he is your man.

0:36:06 > 0:36:08Now, unless you are a relative of Al Capone's

0:36:08 > 0:36:10I don't think there is any mistaking

0:36:10 > 0:36:12what we're going to find in this case.

0:36:12 > 0:36:15- It's going to be a violin, isn't it?- It is, yes.

0:36:15 > 0:36:18And here it is, a rather lovely looking violin.

0:36:18 > 0:36:22I'll be honest with you, though, I am so used to seeing violins

0:36:22 > 0:36:26on the show, on a day like today, that are worth very little.

0:36:26 > 0:36:30German trade violins with Stradivarius labels in them

0:36:30 > 0:36:32and everyone says, "Is it a Stradivarius?"

0:36:32 > 0:36:38- Of course, they never are.- No.- But this violin is slightly different.

0:36:38 > 0:36:41Because I see that we have a letter that comes with it here,

0:36:41 > 0:36:45and it says, "Genuine Paul Bailly violin."

0:36:45 > 0:36:47Dated 1933, and it cost £10.

0:36:47 > 0:36:52- Who paid that £10 for it? - My great-grandfather.

0:36:52 > 0:36:55he bought it for my father when my father was 12.

0:36:55 > 0:36:57He put the money up and then paid

0:36:57 > 0:36:59for lessons for my father to play it.

0:36:59 > 0:37:03- £10 was a lot of money, wasn't it? - Yes.- Let's have a look at it.

0:37:03 > 0:37:05We've got a letter of provenance.

0:37:05 > 0:37:07But I'll be honest with you, I still don't believe

0:37:07 > 0:37:11letters of provenance until I've, obviously, inspected things.

0:37:11 > 0:37:15Now, at first sight I know a little bit about Paul Bailly violins.

0:37:15 > 0:37:20- Right.- He was born in Mirecourt in France in about 1844, I think.

0:37:20 > 0:37:24He studied under a couple of the most famous violin makers,

0:37:24 > 0:37:26the Vuillaume Brothers.

0:37:26 > 0:37:31He then went to America, he spent a little bit of time in Britain,

0:37:31 > 0:37:33and I think he eventually settled in Brussels,

0:37:33 > 0:37:38and he had a shop in Paris, he was a prolific violin maker,

0:37:38 > 0:37:40he made over 3,000 instruments.

0:37:40 > 0:37:43- Cellos as well.- Right.

0:37:43 > 0:37:46- I'm going to have to do something. - Right.

0:37:46 > 0:37:49And I'm going to take my mobile phone, put the torch on,

0:37:49 > 0:37:50- and look inside.- Yes.

0:37:50 > 0:37:54Because the label inside is absolutely crucial.

0:37:54 > 0:37:58So if we shine the torch inside, I can see that there is a label.

0:37:58 > 0:38:00"Paul Bailly, luthier."

0:38:00 > 0:38:03And, crucially, which is very difficult to see,

0:38:03 > 0:38:06is that it is hand signed in ink.

0:38:08 > 0:38:12Now, £10 in 1933, it was a lot of money.

0:38:12 > 0:38:14- I wonder what that equates to now. - No idea.

0:38:14 > 0:38:21I think this went to auction it would make £5000-£8000.

0:38:21 > 0:38:23Oh, my word!

0:38:23 > 0:38:25- Really?- Absolutely.

0:38:27 > 0:38:29Hello, Gabby.

0:38:29 > 0:38:32It's a real pleasure to meet you, I'm really rather stunned

0:38:32 > 0:38:35and shocked at what you've brought along.

0:38:35 > 0:38:37- What can I tell you about it? - Well, I think one of the things

0:38:37 > 0:38:41I find really interesting about trophies, generally,

0:38:41 > 0:38:44is how different they can all be, from the tiny Ashes,

0:38:44 > 0:38:47the Jules Rimet, and some trophies are massive

0:38:47 > 0:38:49and seem to represent the magnitude of the competition.

0:38:49 > 0:38:52It's a big trophy but a very ornate trophy.

0:38:52 > 0:38:54Is that because it's a product of its time?

0:38:54 > 0:38:58Would that be to do with the designs of the late 19th century?

0:38:58 > 0:39:00Or is there another reason why it looks like this?

0:39:00 > 0:39:02Well, it's a very good question,

0:39:02 > 0:39:05because having looked at this fairly recently

0:39:05 > 0:39:09I noticed that it is embossed with fruiting vines.

0:39:09 > 0:39:12Now, why would you have fruiting vines embossed on a football trophy?

0:39:12 > 0:39:16- You would normally expect to see a football stuck on top.- Somewhere!

0:39:16 > 0:39:21Yes. And there's nothing on this to indicate that it was made specially

0:39:21 > 0:39:22as a football trophy.

0:39:22 > 0:39:26Now I might be banned from every football ground in the country

0:39:26 > 0:39:28for saying this, but I suspect

0:39:28 > 0:39:32this might have been an off-the-shelf piece.

0:39:32 > 0:39:34That it was not specifically made.

0:39:34 > 0:39:38I cannot see why it should have fruiting vines on it.

0:39:38 > 0:39:40Because that was a form of design

0:39:40 > 0:39:43that was used over many hundreds of years.

0:39:43 > 0:39:47And in fact this sort of shape goes back to ancient classical vases

0:39:47 > 0:39:50from the ancient Roman and Greek times.

0:39:50 > 0:39:54But here we have a cup of fairly standard, almost bell shape,

0:39:54 > 0:39:58campana shape they sometimes call it in auctioneers' catalogues,

0:39:58 > 0:39:59but with nothing about it

0:39:59 > 0:40:02that says it has got anything to do with football,

0:40:02 > 0:40:06except that it is inscribed, and it's the FA Cup.

0:40:06 > 0:40:08So literally, off the shelf in a shop,

0:40:08 > 0:40:11or would it have belonged to somebody who donated it?

0:40:11 > 0:40:14I think it was probably in a shop.

0:40:14 > 0:40:19The first FA Cup, which was played in 1872 on a cricket ground

0:40:19 > 0:40:21at the Oval, where Surrey play,

0:40:21 > 0:40:24that was known as the Little Tin Idol.

0:40:24 > 0:40:25Which is a wonderful nickname.

0:40:25 > 0:40:28It was made of silver, but that is what it was called.

0:40:28 > 0:40:33Then in 1895, when Aston Villa won the cup for the second time,

0:40:33 > 0:40:36they put it on display in a local shop

0:40:36 > 0:40:38and within hours the cup was stolen.

0:40:38 > 0:40:43So a replica was made and that lasted till 1910,

0:40:43 > 0:40:45then that one was withdrawn,

0:40:45 > 0:40:48because it was discovered that the rival football competition

0:40:48 > 0:40:51were using exactly the same cup.

0:40:51 > 0:40:55So, in comes this beauty in 1911.

0:40:55 > 0:40:57Right.

0:40:57 > 0:40:59Although the marks are completely worn,

0:40:59 > 0:41:02we know it was made by Fattorini and Sons.

0:41:02 > 0:41:04And they were Italian immigrants

0:41:04 > 0:41:07that came to England in the early 19th century

0:41:07 > 0:41:09and Antonio Fattorini Was the founder of the company,

0:41:09 > 0:41:14and in 1831 he opened up a shop here in Harrogate.

0:41:14 > 0:41:18And then they opened up another business in Bradford.

0:41:18 > 0:41:21And that's where this cup was made.

0:41:21 > 0:41:23- Made in Yorkshire.- Yes.

0:41:23 > 0:41:28So if this wasn't designed and made for the FA Cup,

0:41:28 > 0:41:29what would it have been used for?

0:41:29 > 0:41:33Well, I think the fact that it has got all these vines and grapes on it,

0:41:33 > 0:41:36it might have been used as a wine cooler,

0:41:36 > 0:41:38or a champagne cooler, something like that.

0:41:38 > 0:41:41I'm sure it has had plenty of champagne inside over the years.

0:41:41 > 0:41:45More than you and I could possibly think of, I think!

0:41:45 > 0:41:47Is it possible to put a value on something like this?

0:41:47 > 0:41:49With all the history that you've just described?

0:41:49 > 0:41:51I was just going to say,

0:41:51 > 0:41:54the hardest thing of all about this is trying to put a value on it.

0:41:54 > 0:41:59This is probably, along with maybe the Wimbledon trophy,

0:41:59 > 0:42:02the most famous cup in the country.

0:42:03 > 0:42:07I think quite comfortably this has got to be worth

0:42:07 > 0:42:10- well over £1 million.- Wow.

0:42:10 > 0:42:12The highest value piece of silver

0:42:12 > 0:42:15- I have ever valued on the Antiques Roadshow.- Wow.

0:42:20 > 0:42:22I've brought it on behalf of my boyfriend.

0:42:22 > 0:42:25He actually dug it up in the garden.

0:42:25 > 0:42:28So, just digging a hole one day, to plant some things,

0:42:28 > 0:42:30Mum was going to land some things, and found this.

0:42:33 > 0:42:36What a fantastic collection of film posters.

0:42:36 > 0:42:37Tell me, how did you get them?

0:42:37 > 0:42:40Basically my father had a carpet shop

0:42:40 > 0:42:42and next door was a video shop.

0:42:42 > 0:42:45So I used to spend a lot of time in the video shop basically.

0:42:45 > 0:42:48and fortunately, for me, they gave me these posters.

0:42:49 > 0:42:52- What do you reckon it is? - Possibly a cane topper.

0:42:52 > 0:42:56- Or something like that. - Spot on. Looks a bit distressed.

0:42:56 > 0:42:58It's silver and it's Norwegian.

0:42:58 > 0:43:01It is made by a chap called Muller of Trondheim.

0:43:01 > 0:43:06So look at this bearded figure. Like an early Nordic king.

0:43:06 > 0:43:09I was a massive fan of Hammer House of Horror films in the 1970s.

0:43:09 > 0:43:11And I love that.

0:43:11 > 0:43:13It is absolutely fantastic.

0:43:13 > 0:43:15I saw this film and I was young

0:43:15 > 0:43:18and it scared the living daylights out of me.

0:43:18 > 0:43:21Yes, that is when horror films were actually scary rather than gory.

0:43:21 > 0:43:23- Yes.- And then another one that caught my eye, The Italian Job.

0:43:23 > 0:43:25Yes, classic.

0:43:25 > 0:43:26The imagery on that, do you know,

0:43:26 > 0:43:31it so sums up the 1960s, doesn't it? It's fantastic.

0:43:31 > 0:43:36- Your boyfriend has dug you up around about £200.- Fantastic!

0:43:36 > 0:43:40Hold on to him, and hold on to that.

0:43:40 > 0:43:44Obviously there's a massive following for Hammer films now.

0:43:44 > 0:43:47Given the condition of it you are probably looking at

0:43:47 > 0:43:50- around £300-£400. - That's fantastic.

0:43:50 > 0:43:52And The Italian Job, slightly more tricky to value,

0:43:52 > 0:43:55because it is an Australian version rather than a UK one.

0:43:55 > 0:44:00- But I would have thought, £200-£400.- OK, lovely.

0:44:03 > 0:44:05This is such a wonderful, magnificent sofa.

0:44:05 > 0:44:08But it is really quite a large size, isn't it?

0:44:08 > 0:44:13Yes, my husband brought it home unannounced in the back of the car.

0:44:13 > 0:44:16So, hang on, you brought it back unannounced?

0:44:16 > 0:44:19I did, yes, I used to work for a large antique dealers.

0:44:19 > 0:44:22And I noticed some unusual pieces coming into the warehouse.

0:44:22 > 0:44:26And it turned out that they had been shopping abroad

0:44:26 > 0:44:29in some of the auction rooms in Europe.

0:44:29 > 0:44:32And when I saw it I really liked it so I thought I'd buy it.

0:44:32 > 0:44:35- And it fits in your lounge. - Just!- We love it.

0:44:35 > 0:44:37It doesn't quite fit in the house,

0:44:37 > 0:44:40it is quite a stately piece of furniture

0:44:40 > 0:44:43and we live in a fairly modest house, but we like it.

0:44:43 > 0:44:46But we have plenty of family gatherings

0:44:46 > 0:44:49and all the children sit on it and it is a great photo opportunity.

0:44:49 > 0:44:51So you've got a photograph in your hand, is that a family photograph?

0:44:51 > 0:44:54Yes, this is one of my sons' christenings.

0:44:54 > 0:44:58We have all the children sat on the sofa at the family gatherings

0:44:58 > 0:44:59and take photographs.

0:44:59 > 0:45:02That amazing, how many have you got on there?

0:45:02 > 0:45:05- It's extraordinary. What a wonderful centrepiece.- Quite a few.

0:45:05 > 0:45:07Thanks for showing me that, that is glorious.

0:45:07 > 0:45:10Well, I am sure people don't realise that it comes to pieces

0:45:10 > 0:45:12so that is how you got it into the car.

0:45:12 > 0:45:15The back comes off, the seat comes out, and do these arms come off?

0:45:15 > 0:45:17They do. They are just pegged underneath.

0:45:17 > 0:45:21- Take the pegs out and the arms just lift out.- So do it yourself, really?

0:45:21 > 0:45:23It is, yeah. Flatpack, almost.

0:45:23 > 0:45:28The important thing, when you say from a continental house

0:45:28 > 0:45:31or something like that, where do you think this comes from?

0:45:31 > 0:45:34Well, I am fairly sure that it came from a saleroom in Denmark.

0:45:34 > 0:45:40- You think it's Danish?- Well, on my receipt it's described as Regency.

0:45:40 > 0:45:43And by that I assume it means English.

0:45:43 > 0:45:47But another dealer did say it was more possibly Biedermeier.

0:45:47 > 0:45:51Which I think is like the European equivalent of our Regency.

0:45:51 > 0:45:52So I am not sure, really.

0:45:52 > 0:45:55Absolutely. Well, it is Biedermeier style.

0:45:55 > 0:45:57Biedermeier is German for "plain man".

0:45:57 > 0:46:00But this is not plain at all, is it? Quite elaborate.

0:46:00 > 0:46:03It is the sort of style that emanated in Berlin and Vienna

0:46:03 > 0:46:06and went all the way up into Denmark.

0:46:06 > 0:46:08And even further into Russia.

0:46:08 > 0:46:11- It was a very popular style at about the 1820s.- Right.

0:46:11 > 0:46:12Which is when I think this was made.

0:46:12 > 0:46:14So it is the equivalent of English Regency

0:46:14 > 0:46:17but is very definitely Danish.

0:46:17 > 0:46:20What I love about it is the veneers here, you have got these...

0:46:20 > 0:46:23Well, they are very pretty veneers, mahogany of course.

0:46:23 > 0:46:25They are not quite matched, are they?

0:46:25 > 0:46:27They are slightly out of kilter.

0:46:27 > 0:46:31It was very expensive for them to why this type of wood at the time.

0:46:31 > 0:46:33Because this mahogany comes from the Caribbean

0:46:33 > 0:46:36and of course there was a blockade of the Baltic fleet.

0:46:36 > 0:46:40The English fleet was blockading the whole of that area, Northern Europe.

0:46:40 > 0:46:43And luxuries like mahogany couldn't get through.

0:46:43 > 0:46:45What I love about this, I mean,

0:46:45 > 0:46:48you've got these lovely scrolls here, which were repeated down here.

0:46:48 > 0:46:51Sometimes, more northerly than this Danish one,

0:46:51 > 0:46:56these would open and you would have little sewing things

0:46:56 > 0:46:57or little trinkets inside.

0:46:57 > 0:47:01In terms of value, well, you bought that 18 years ago, you say?

0:47:01 > 0:47:03That's right. Yeah.

0:47:03 > 0:47:06It may not be worth a lot more than you paid for it.

0:47:06 > 0:47:08I mean, things haven't gone up a lot.

0:47:08 > 0:47:11But my valuation today would be between...

0:47:11 > 0:47:15I am nervous about this now. £2000-£3000, something like that.

0:47:15 > 0:47:19- Well, OK.- That's good.- I paid £800 for it, so that's not too bad.

0:47:19 > 0:47:21Well, that's pretty good.

0:47:21 > 0:47:23Well, keep on with the family photographs,

0:47:23 > 0:47:25come back to the Antiques Roadshow in 20 years' time

0:47:25 > 0:47:28and we will see that little boy for his wedding photograph,

0:47:28 > 0:47:31- 21st birthday or something. - That would be nice.- All right.

0:47:32 > 0:47:36This dates from the English Civil Wars, it is about 1645.

0:47:36 > 0:47:37How did you come by it?

0:47:37 > 0:47:41I remember as a child my grandparents' drawing room

0:47:41 > 0:47:45on the first floor, which was full of militaria,

0:47:45 > 0:47:48the walls were covered, you would have loved it,

0:47:48 > 0:47:51covered in swords, and guns, and helmets, and so on...

0:47:51 > 0:47:53I can imagine what it looks like.

0:47:53 > 0:47:55..and I've inherited a small portion of that.

0:47:55 > 0:47:57Well, having said it's from the English Civil Wars,

0:47:57 > 0:47:59it is not actually English.

0:47:59 > 0:48:02It came from the low countries, the Netherlands, somewhere around that.

0:48:02 > 0:48:05There was a big ironworking tradition there

0:48:05 > 0:48:09and as soon as the English Civil Wars started, both sides,

0:48:09 > 0:48:11both the King's forces, and Parliament's,

0:48:11 > 0:48:14they were desperately, desperately short of arms and armour.

0:48:14 > 0:48:18So the Dutch thought, well, we better supply these English people,

0:48:18 > 0:48:20if they want arms, we will supply them.

0:48:20 > 0:48:23It's very interesting, and it's got this big bar on the front.

0:48:23 > 0:48:25And that was to protect your nose.

0:48:25 > 0:48:28And you could adjust it so you got the right length.

0:48:28 > 0:48:31The rest of it is very simple, the skull as we call it,

0:48:31 > 0:48:33that covers your head,

0:48:33 > 0:48:35that's one piece that had just been stamped out,

0:48:35 > 0:48:38and they would have stamped the brow piece out, that little visor,

0:48:38 > 0:48:42riveted it on there, put the nose piece on it,

0:48:42 > 0:48:45and the other bit that tells you it is reasonably good quality

0:48:45 > 0:48:51is the neck piece is made from different plates, so that it moves.

0:48:51 > 0:48:54Almost like a lobster's tail.

0:48:54 > 0:48:57- Hence the name, lobster pot helmet. - Yes, exactly.

0:48:57 > 0:49:00And as you put your head back like that it moved with you,

0:49:00 > 0:49:04and that is a great feature of really well-designed armour,

0:49:04 > 0:49:06- that it moves with you.- Yes.

0:49:06 > 0:49:10I would think that if you bought this at auction

0:49:10 > 0:49:13you'd be paying probably... £2000-£3000.

0:49:13 > 0:49:16- Oh, as much as that? - Because it is so good.

0:49:16 > 0:49:20- Thank you, I'm really fascinated to learn so much about it.- Thank you.

0:49:20 > 0:49:21Well, British Bulldogs,

0:49:21 > 0:49:25that's all very well, but they actually are from Austria.

0:49:25 > 0:49:28- OK.- And almost certainly made by

0:49:28 > 0:49:32perhaps the greatest exponent of bronze figures,

0:49:32 > 0:49:35- from Vienna, Franz Bergman.- Right.

0:49:35 > 0:49:40And his workshops produced literally thousands of different models.

0:49:40 > 0:49:42Mainly animals.

0:49:42 > 0:49:46He did amphibians, snakes, butterflies,

0:49:46 > 0:49:48he did tiny little ants,

0:49:48 > 0:49:54but then he did a range of African animals, particularly game species.

0:49:54 > 0:49:58So, his designs saw no boundaries.

0:49:58 > 0:50:02And of course the realism is what people love.

0:50:02 > 0:50:04These are brilliantly observed,

0:50:04 > 0:50:08- and really they don't get better than this.- No, absolutely.

0:50:08 > 0:50:11Where on earth did you get this very rare set?

0:50:11 > 0:50:14Well, my mother was given them for her 21st birthday

0:50:14 > 0:50:18- and that would be 1936.- Right, what a strange thing to get for your...

0:50:18 > 0:50:20Well, it was given by her godfather,

0:50:20 > 0:50:23which again gets stranger, doesn't it? Yes.

0:50:23 > 0:50:26They've now been left to my son who hasn't actually claimed them

0:50:26 > 0:50:29- so, they still live with us, he has not got his inheritance yet.- OK.

0:50:29 > 0:50:31I mean, do you like them?

0:50:31 > 0:50:35Yes, we played with them as children, because they stack up,

0:50:35 > 0:50:37and we can turn them upside down and stack them up.

0:50:37 > 0:50:41So we have all played with them, because they are indestructible!

0:50:41 > 0:50:45Yeah, I mean, they are made of bronze. They are cold painted.

0:50:45 > 0:50:48And obviously if you were sort of stacking one on top of another

0:50:48 > 0:50:52and they fell, you'd obviously chip some of the paint off,

0:50:52 > 0:50:54- and I can see that they have played with...- OK, right.

0:50:54 > 0:50:58But, you know, why not? Of course, they are beautifully cast.

0:50:58 > 0:51:02I mean you've only got to look at the face of this large brute here

0:51:02 > 0:51:04to see all the detail.

0:51:04 > 0:51:11The jowls, the beautiful, pimpled sort of snout, the snub nose,

0:51:11 > 0:51:15and of course we go from the huge example here

0:51:15 > 0:51:17right down to the tiny one.

0:51:17 > 0:51:18I mean, was that it, or...?

0:51:18 > 0:51:21Well, I think there was talk of a smaller one that went in the hoover,

0:51:21 > 0:51:24my mum used to say, but I don't know. I don't know.

0:51:24 > 0:51:27- A little tiddly one.- OK. So these now belong to your son?

0:51:27 > 0:51:30- They do, they do.- So when do you think he is going to acquire them?

0:51:30 > 0:51:35- Well, probably after your show! - If I put enough value on them!

0:51:35 > 0:51:41Well, I must say, they are super examples, they date to around 1900.

0:51:41 > 0:51:42Right.

0:51:42 > 0:51:46So when they were given as a gift they were already 30, 35 years old.

0:51:46 > 0:51:51I think if I was putting these in an auction

0:51:51 > 0:51:53my auction estimate for the set,

0:51:53 > 0:51:56and you normally only find singles,

0:51:56 > 0:51:59and to find a big one is unusual...

0:51:59 > 0:52:01- Right, right.- £8000-£12,000.

0:52:01 > 0:52:04Really?! Oh, my goodness! I'm sure my son will...

0:52:04 > 0:52:08That is really good news, goodness!

0:52:11 > 0:52:15A formal portrait, a man dressed in respectable clothes,

0:52:15 > 0:52:18looking stalwartly out of the picture,

0:52:18 > 0:52:20and he is a factory worker.

0:52:22 > 0:52:24- And he's your ancestor?- Yes.

0:52:24 > 0:52:27He is my great, great, great, great grandfather.

0:52:27 > 0:52:30He was a friend of Richard Oastler...

0:52:30 > 0:52:31The campaigner and reformer.

0:52:31 > 0:52:35The campaigner and reformer who was trying to bring in the 10 hour bill,

0:52:35 > 0:52:38so that children and young people in the factories

0:52:38 > 0:52:40only had to work 10 hours.

0:52:40 > 0:52:45- Pitiful, but that in itself would have been a huge advance.- Yes.

0:52:45 > 0:52:49And so these books refer to the campaign by Oastler

0:52:49 > 0:52:52to improve the conditions in factories?

0:52:52 > 0:52:54And during the campaigning, Oastler was imprisoned

0:52:54 > 0:52:56in the Fleet Prison in London

0:52:56 > 0:52:59and Robert Pounder wrote to him, well, more than two letters

0:52:59 > 0:53:03but two were printed in the Fleet Papers

0:53:03 > 0:53:06and then were referenced in other books.

0:53:06 > 0:53:10And we only know about him because he wrote some notebooks.

0:53:10 > 0:53:14Which was quite an unusual thing to do at that time.

0:53:14 > 0:53:17He left school at eight. He went into the factories at eight.

0:53:17 > 0:53:21He became the family breadwinner at 13, his father died.

0:53:21 > 0:53:24So he was self taught.

0:53:24 > 0:53:27Every time he had a little bit of money he bought a book.

0:53:27 > 0:53:31A working-class man, self educated, turned into a campaigner,

0:53:31 > 0:53:35for this great man, Oastler, who is in prison.

0:53:35 > 0:53:38Finally, the act was passed so that children

0:53:38 > 0:53:41and young people only had to work for 10 hours.

0:53:41 > 0:53:44- Which of course was a huge achievement.- Yes.

0:53:44 > 0:53:46My children said they didn't like him

0:53:46 > 0:53:49because his eyes followed them as they came down the stairs!

0:53:49 > 0:53:52They do, a bit, don't they?

0:53:52 > 0:53:54But it is wonderful, it seems to right the balance.

0:53:54 > 0:53:57They are so many portraits of doctors, lawyers,

0:53:57 > 0:54:00and military figures of superiority,

0:54:00 > 0:54:02but great to get a man who, in a small way,

0:54:02 > 0:54:07and, through association with Oastler, in a big way,

0:54:07 > 0:54:14changed the culture of industry and factory practices in Britain.

0:54:14 > 0:54:17When it comes to a valuation I think it's worth £2,000,

0:54:17 > 0:54:19possibly even a £3,000.

0:54:19 > 0:54:25It is such a rarity of industrial social history.

0:54:25 > 0:54:28Yes. But it won't be going anywhere.

0:54:28 > 0:54:32- So his eyes will continue to follow you?- Yes, well, yes, they will!

0:54:33 > 0:54:37One tiny ring, one blue stone, tell me about it.

0:54:37 > 0:54:39It was left to me from my very dear friend,

0:54:39 > 0:54:42who I'd known for many years, and he passed quite recently.

0:54:42 > 0:54:45I'd not seen him for nearly two years though, and I just got

0:54:45 > 0:54:49a letter out of the blue saying I had been left a load of his things.

0:54:49 > 0:54:50How marvellous.

0:54:50 > 0:54:54He was a great man, he collected everything, artwork, jewellery.

0:54:54 > 0:54:55He loved jewellery.

0:54:55 > 0:54:57When I was very little I used to go into his shop,

0:54:57 > 0:55:01he had a shop at the time, and I would go among different objects

0:55:01 > 0:55:02knock things over,

0:55:02 > 0:55:06the odd time I think I was probably screamed out of the shop

0:55:06 > 0:55:07then welcomed back!

0:55:07 > 0:55:10And what a lovely thing to leave in memory of him.

0:55:10 > 0:55:13- What did you think the blue stone was?- I thought that was a sapphire.

0:55:13 > 0:55:15- And you are right.- Really?- Yes.

0:55:15 > 0:55:19But it is a much, much more, complicated story than that.

0:55:19 > 0:55:22- What else have you noticed about it? - I know it has got a carving.

0:55:22 > 0:55:24I think it is of Julius Caesar.

0:55:24 > 0:55:28Well I think it is too, and that is exciting enough, certainly,

0:55:28 > 0:55:31and points towards something from Italy, perhaps Rome.

0:55:31 > 0:55:33We should just say that sapphires

0:55:33 > 0:55:36are the second hardest material known to man

0:55:36 > 0:55:38so to carve it in what we call "intaglio",

0:55:38 > 0:55:42which means to cut in, is a tour de force, seldom seen.

0:55:42 > 0:55:45And what else have you noticed about the ring?

0:55:45 > 0:55:48I know it has a little signature on the bottom, it looks like a niggle.

0:55:48 > 0:55:50A niggle? Well, it is a niggle!

0:55:50 > 0:55:52No, actually it's more than a niggle,

0:55:52 > 0:55:54because it is back-to-back C's

0:55:54 > 0:55:57and back-to-back C's are the monogram

0:55:57 > 0:56:00of possibly the most famous jeweller

0:56:00 > 0:56:03working in the 19th century in Europe.

0:56:05 > 0:56:09It is the monogram of the Castellani Atelier in Rome.

0:56:09 > 0:56:12They were at the Piazza Fontana di Trevi in Rome,

0:56:12 > 0:56:16- next to the Trevi fountain, everybody went there...- I, yeah...

0:56:16 > 0:56:19- Have you been there? - No, God, please, go on.

0:56:19 > 0:56:24It operated between 1860 and even as late as 1930.

0:56:24 > 0:56:26But everybody went there.

0:56:26 > 0:56:29It was a sort of honey pot for the elite of Europe,

0:56:29 > 0:56:31without a shadow of doubt.

0:56:31 > 0:56:33You have a neoclassical head of Julius Caesar,

0:56:33 > 0:56:38carved by the Castellani Atelier, in a tiny signet ring.

0:56:38 > 0:56:40So tell me what it means to you.

0:56:40 > 0:56:43I wouldn't replace it if you told me it was worth £1,000.

0:56:43 > 0:56:46And you couldn't replace it because it is a token of your friendship.

0:56:46 > 0:56:47It was.

0:56:47 > 0:56:49And I have a funny feeling

0:56:49 > 0:56:52he might just have known some part of all this

0:56:52 > 0:56:54and perhaps he wanted you to discover it.

0:56:54 > 0:56:56His words were, "never let it go".

0:56:56 > 0:56:58Well that's pretty good, isn't it?

0:56:58 > 0:57:00And these things are very, very touching.

0:57:00 > 0:57:03But unfortunately you have to make a choice about something else,

0:57:03 > 0:57:07because it is not worth £1,000, it is worth £5,000.

0:57:07 > 0:57:10Oh, my God.

0:57:10 > 0:57:16- HE LAUGHS - Wow! That's amazing.- Hmm.

0:57:16 > 0:57:18I'm a very affected by it, and I think you are too, aren't you?

0:57:18 > 0:57:22I am, I am stunned, honestly. Wow!

0:57:24 > 0:57:26What an emotional story.

0:57:26 > 0:57:30And not the only high-value item to grace the roadshow today.

0:57:30 > 0:57:34Alistair Dickenson said that's the highest silver valuation

0:57:34 > 0:57:36he has ever done on the roadshow, but with this FA Cup

0:57:36 > 0:57:39it is the highest evaluation we have ever had on the roadshow.

0:57:39 > 0:57:42We have been up to £1 million before,

0:57:42 > 0:57:44now we are over £1 million.

0:57:44 > 0:57:47With all the FA Cup sporting action in the next few months

0:57:47 > 0:57:51I wonder whose hands will next be holding aloft the FA Cup?

0:57:51 > 0:57:54But with this one, for now, it is me,

0:57:54 > 0:57:56yipee, for the Antiques Roadshow, bye-bye!

0:57:56 > 0:57:59CHEERING AND APPLAUSE