Burton Constable 2

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0:00:46 > 0:00:50The Humber Bridge was opened by the Queen back in 1981,

0:00:50 > 0:00:52and it is Britain's longest suspension bridge.

0:00:52 > 0:00:55And look at the view, it dominates the landscape.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58You've got Lincolnshire over on this side.

0:00:58 > 0:01:01Over here, the East Riding of Yorkshire, and just there,

0:01:01 > 0:01:03this year's City of Culture.

0:01:03 > 0:01:08And at this spot we're over 500ft up in the air,

0:01:08 > 0:01:10and I'm feeling a bit nervous.

0:01:10 > 0:01:13Welcome to this week's Antiques Roadshow from Hull.

0:01:16 > 0:01:20Hull was awarded City of Culture 2017.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22It's a £100 million investment

0:01:22 > 0:01:24that will refurbish museums, galleries,

0:01:24 > 0:01:26and fund plenty of festivals.

0:01:26 > 0:01:28New venues have also been built.

0:01:30 > 0:01:33Like this one, called The Dock.

0:01:33 > 0:01:36It's a Grade II-listed former dry dock dating back to 1842.

0:01:36 > 0:01:38It hasn't been used in the last 20 years,

0:01:38 > 0:01:42but now it's been converted into a 350-seat amphitheatre

0:01:42 > 0:01:44for live events and shows.

0:01:47 > 0:01:50Another notable location for this cultural extravaganza

0:01:50 > 0:01:52is the Museum Quarter.

0:01:55 > 0:01:58To get there, you'll find the River Hull in the way,

0:01:58 > 0:02:00but this recently installed swing bridge,

0:02:00 > 0:02:04an ingenious piece of engineering like something off a Star Wars set,

0:02:04 > 0:02:06will transport you to the other side.

0:02:12 > 0:02:16Hull City of Culture 2017 will celebrate its former greats.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19The pilot Amy Johnson, the poet Philip Larkin,

0:02:19 > 0:02:23and the great slave-abolitionist William Wilberforce.

0:02:23 > 0:02:25And Wilberforce's home celebrates another era,

0:02:25 > 0:02:28when Hull's furniture-makers were at the fore.

0:02:29 > 0:02:32They were craftsmen born from the shipbuilding heyday.

0:02:34 > 0:02:38Their celebrated work also inhabits a fine country house nearby -

0:02:38 > 0:02:41our venue for the day, Burton Constable Hall.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44This 16th-century house is crammed with treasures,

0:02:44 > 0:02:46and we're hoping to find many more

0:02:46 > 0:02:50as our experts welcome visitors to today's Antiques Roadshow.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55This is a fantastic oil lamp that you've brought us in

0:02:55 > 0:02:56to take a look at today,

0:02:56 > 0:02:58and I must say, on this show,

0:02:58 > 0:03:00we don't often get a couple of young guys like yourself

0:03:00 > 0:03:03bringing something like this in, so what can you tell me about it?

0:03:03 > 0:03:07How did you come by it, do you collect this type of thing?

0:03:07 > 0:03:08Yeah, we have quite a few antiques

0:03:08 > 0:03:12and we're always on the lookout for bits and pieces.

0:03:12 > 0:03:16And we were visiting a car-boot sale in Doncaster,

0:03:16 > 0:03:18and I saw this from a distance,

0:03:18 > 0:03:22but originally, where the enamelling, sort of, colouring is,

0:03:22 > 0:03:23it was painted white.

0:03:23 > 0:03:28I considered repainting it but I were curious what were underneath,

0:03:28 > 0:03:33so I slowly sort of just washed it off with soap and water.

0:03:33 > 0:03:36That must have been quite a shock when you've gone from white to this?

0:03:36 > 0:03:39- Yeah.- And what did you think of the purchase?

0:03:39 > 0:03:42For many years, a lot of our homes, we used to...

0:03:42 > 0:03:45Everything come from car boots, you know what I mean?

0:03:45 > 0:03:50That's how we furnished our home, and then obviously when...

0:03:50 > 0:03:51- ..This was revealed...- Yeah.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54..you've been back to that car boot every week since, yeah?

0:03:54 > 0:03:58It's French, it's Limoges enamel,

0:03:58 > 0:04:01and Limoges enamel have been around for a very long time,

0:04:01 > 0:04:02way back in the 12th century,

0:04:02 > 0:04:05but this one was made much, much later than that

0:04:05 > 0:04:09and in the 19th century, probably around 1880.

0:04:09 > 0:04:13And it's of a type, I mean, it's high-style Victorian, really,

0:04:13 > 0:04:16you've got these wonderful gilt-metal mounts here,

0:04:16 > 0:04:18and then often we see these panels,

0:04:18 > 0:04:22which were sort of aristocrats or courtiers,

0:04:22 > 0:04:25probably 16th-17th century, something like that.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28And here we can see we've got Marie de Rohan.

0:04:28 > 0:04:32She was also known as the Duchess Chevreuse.

0:04:32 > 0:04:34And then, if I turn it all the way around,

0:04:34 > 0:04:36we can see on the other side,

0:04:36 > 0:04:40opposing side, we've got Louis Maugiron.

0:04:40 > 0:04:41Particularly in the 19th century

0:04:41 > 0:04:44they were looking back on earlier periods,

0:04:44 > 0:04:46you know, the 16th, 17th and indeed the 18th century,

0:04:46 > 0:04:48with a great deal of fondness,

0:04:48 > 0:04:51so decorating it with these type of aristocrats and courtiers

0:04:51 > 0:04:55would have been very much appetite and flavour of the day.

0:04:55 > 0:04:57Would that have been hand-painted?

0:04:57 > 0:05:00Absolutely. Yeah, no, it's absolutely all hand-painted

0:05:00 > 0:05:03on this wonderful sort of turquoise ground.

0:05:03 > 0:05:07Would it have been a one-off or one of a pair, or just...?

0:05:07 > 0:05:09You know, pairs of vases, we think about that,

0:05:09 > 0:05:13but as an oil lamp often they were just, you know, single, so...

0:05:13 > 0:05:17But you will find other examples like this oil lamp.

0:05:17 > 0:05:22We were always curious with the narrow shade, flute,

0:05:22 > 0:05:24because most of them I've seen are quite bulbous

0:05:24 > 0:05:27- and this is very narrow.- It is. Well, it would have had another...

0:05:27 > 0:05:29You see this lovely little lip that we've got there?

0:05:29 > 0:05:32That would have actually sat, so you've got your flute there,

0:05:32 > 0:05:33and then you would have had

0:05:33 > 0:05:35a nice little globular, or bulbous, lamp there.

0:05:35 > 0:05:38Because, of course, that would have been frosted,

0:05:38 > 0:05:40you know, so that the light wasn't so extreme.

0:05:40 > 0:05:43I mean, if you just got this clear one,

0:05:43 > 0:05:45the light would have been burst throughout the room.

0:05:45 > 0:05:48It's a great thing. I think there would be a good appetite for that

0:05:48 > 0:05:49if it came up for auction,

0:05:49 > 0:05:52and I think it would carry a presale estimate

0:05:52 > 0:05:56of between £1,500 and £2,500.

0:05:56 > 0:05:58- Really?- That's brilliant.

0:05:58 > 0:06:00Now you can tell me what you paid at the car boot.

0:06:00 > 0:06:01Well, it were less than £10.

0:06:01 > 0:06:04- Was it really? My God. - LAUGHTER

0:06:04 > 0:06:06So, yeah!

0:06:08 > 0:06:10Now, I gather this little bit of silver

0:06:10 > 0:06:13is the cause of some family controversy, shall we say,

0:06:13 > 0:06:15so perhaps I can help to settle the argument.

0:06:15 > 0:06:19So, without wanting to cause, you know, romantic disharmony,

0:06:19 > 0:06:22perhaps ladies first, perhaps you'd like to tell me

0:06:22 > 0:06:23what your view of it is?

0:06:23 > 0:06:26Well, it's been in my family forever,

0:06:26 > 0:06:28never been out of the family,

0:06:28 > 0:06:31and we think it's a communion cup

0:06:31 > 0:06:34- and it's probably from the 1500s.- Right.

0:06:34 > 0:06:38And so I gather your partner's also been investigating this little cup,

0:06:38 > 0:06:40and so what would be your view?

0:06:40 > 0:06:42I think it's from the 17...

0:06:42 > 0:06:45Around 1775, from Birmingham,

0:06:45 > 0:06:47and it's sterling silver.

0:06:47 > 0:06:49Do you agree with the sterling silver?

0:06:49 > 0:06:51OK, so it's sterling silver.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53I think I agree with the sterling silver,

0:06:53 > 0:06:55so we've got consensus here, sterling silver it is.

0:06:55 > 0:06:58You're both wrong on the date.

0:06:58 > 0:06:59And on the town, unfortunately.

0:06:59 > 0:07:01- Oh!- A beaker?

0:07:01 > 0:07:03- Yes.- For drinking out of?

0:07:03 > 0:07:05- Yeah.- Whatever you like, really,

0:07:05 > 0:07:06it's just a useful domestic object, really.

0:07:06 > 0:07:08I don't think it's got anything to do with church,

0:07:08 > 0:07:12in fact there's no reason to think it's to do with communion.

0:07:12 > 0:07:13There is a set of hallmarks on the bottom,

0:07:13 > 0:07:18which you presumably looked up to get the Birmingham one.

0:07:18 > 0:07:19They are complicated, hallmarks,

0:07:19 > 0:07:23and I can understand exactly why you drew that conclusion.

0:07:23 > 0:07:29This little beaker was made in London, in fact, in 1653.

0:07:29 > 0:07:30HE WHISTLES

0:07:30 > 0:07:33Not quite as old as the 1500s, but pretty old nonetheless.

0:07:33 > 0:07:36- Yeah.- 1500s is very, very rare for silver.

0:07:36 > 0:07:381653 is rare enough.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41So, if we turn it upside down,

0:07:41 > 0:07:43on the bottom here

0:07:43 > 0:07:46we've got a little set of London hallmarks,

0:07:46 > 0:07:49and there's a maker's mark with D and G

0:07:49 > 0:07:51on either side of an anchor.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54Well, as you know now, the Birmingham town mark is an anchor,

0:07:54 > 0:07:57so I can quite understand why you'd thought that.

0:07:57 > 0:08:01It's made by a maker who's name now has been lost to history,

0:08:01 > 0:08:03who made various silver objects,

0:08:03 > 0:08:07including communion cups and church-related silver.

0:08:07 > 0:08:09This he made and marked in 1653,

0:08:09 > 0:08:13which is some, what, 363 years ago?

0:08:13 > 0:08:14Wow.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16Incredible, I mean, and all the damage that it's suffered,

0:08:16 > 0:08:19there are a few dents on the side of it - is it used at home?

0:08:19 > 0:08:22Not really, no. It's just on display all the time, though.

0:08:22 > 0:08:23But it's out on constant display?

0:08:23 > 0:08:27- Yeah.- You never get tempted to take a little drink out of it, no?

0:08:27 > 0:08:28Sometimes, yeah!

0:08:28 > 0:08:29SHE LAUGHS

0:08:29 > 0:08:31You can do, it won't come to any harm. You can use it,

0:08:31 > 0:08:34as long as you don't sort of throw it round the room,

0:08:34 > 0:08:35you're not going to do it any damage.

0:08:35 > 0:08:37It was absolutely made for use.

0:08:37 > 0:08:40Silver from that period's pretty rare.

0:08:40 > 0:08:421500s is sort of virtually unheard of,

0:08:42 > 0:08:45but this is pretty rare stuff.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48It's been around forever, you don't know who bought it,

0:08:48 > 0:08:49- you don't know...?- No.

0:08:49 > 0:08:50It's quite a little cup,

0:08:50 > 0:08:52I mean it's, what, 3oz or 4oz only?

0:08:52 > 0:08:55I think you'd be very lucky to buy that for £3,000.

0:08:55 > 0:08:58Wow.

0:08:58 > 0:09:00She's shocked!

0:09:00 > 0:09:02THEY LAUGH

0:09:02 > 0:09:04- Really?- Yeah, really.

0:09:04 > 0:09:06Gosh. Oh, thank you, that's lovely.

0:09:06 > 0:09:07Not a bit.

0:09:11 > 0:09:15Well, we've got the classical beauty of Burton Constable Hall behind us.

0:09:15 > 0:09:19You've brought me a clock of a similar classical design.

0:09:19 > 0:09:20- Handsome.- Handsome.

0:09:20 > 0:09:25But let me tell you, it's a very, very ordinary, late Victorian clock.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28So, what was it about it that made you buy it?

0:09:28 > 0:09:30Well, the paintings on it.

0:09:30 > 0:09:33I love the whole school of marine painters,

0:09:33 > 0:09:36especially John Ward and Henry Redmore.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39- Yes.- It was in a... I hesitate to say antique shop -

0:09:39 > 0:09:42it was a junk shop or second-hand shop,

0:09:42 > 0:09:46and among all the tat I saw this behind the counter

0:09:46 > 0:09:50and I was immediately drawn to it because of the paintings on it.

0:09:50 > 0:09:53Yeah, and how far back does your interest in Hull and maritime...?

0:09:53 > 0:09:55All my life, all my life.

0:09:55 > 0:09:57I bought this 24 years ago now,

0:09:57 > 0:10:01and when I looked closely I was very excited and pleased

0:10:01 > 0:10:04to see the signature on it, EK Redmore.

0:10:04 > 0:10:06Yeah. Now, it is an artist I know,

0:10:06 > 0:10:08because my grandma lived in Hull for 40-50 years,

0:10:08 > 0:10:12and as a boy I went to the Ferens Art Gallery,

0:10:12 > 0:10:16where they have some super works by Edward King Redmore.

0:10:16 > 0:10:20- Yes.- And, of course, his father, Henry Redmore, was also an artist,

0:10:20 > 0:10:22so there's a tradition in that family

0:10:22 > 0:10:25- and they're very celebrated in these parts.- In Hull especially, yes.

0:10:25 > 0:10:28Shall we have a look a bit closer at the...?

0:10:28 > 0:10:30- Yes, certainly. - Because it's got a full seascape.

0:10:30 > 0:10:32I mean, there's a sailing vessel,

0:10:32 > 0:10:34there's a little steam vessel in the background.

0:10:34 > 0:10:35Precisely, yes, yes.

0:10:35 > 0:10:37And, of course, it's not just the dial that's painted -

0:10:37 > 0:10:41we have, beneath the classical sort of portico,

0:10:41 > 0:10:43two more little vignettes.

0:10:43 > 0:10:44Indeed, yes, yes.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47I'll be honest, I've never seen anything by either of the Redmores

0:10:47 > 0:10:49painted on anything except canvas.

0:10:49 > 0:10:52- Have you not?- So, it makes this, you know, a little bit spicy.

0:10:52 > 0:10:56Yes, well, it's unique, I think it's the only one in the world.

0:10:56 > 0:10:58His work deteriorated a lot in his older days.

0:10:58 > 0:11:01Well, yes, his later work did really deteriorate,

0:11:01 > 0:11:02and I thought he died

0:11:02 > 0:11:05somewhere in the early days of the Second World War.

0:11:05 > 0:11:08Just before, I believe, yes. 1939, I think.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11Yeah, yeah. But, look, what a lovely piece

0:11:11 > 0:11:13that represents one of Hull's great artists

0:11:13 > 0:11:15and, of course, one of Hull's great characters.

0:11:15 > 0:11:18We remember him by his attention to this, you know,

0:11:18 > 0:11:22very ordinary French clock with a very ordinary movement.

0:11:22 > 0:11:25Value - not huge, but I think to a local person,

0:11:25 > 0:11:29in a local auction that's well advertised,

0:11:29 > 0:11:32it's got to be £700, £1,000 worth.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34Yes, thank you very much, yes.

0:11:42 > 0:11:43It's a tradesman's sample.

0:11:43 > 0:11:45- Yes.- It's Victorian.

0:11:45 > 0:11:48- Yes.- And made of mahogany.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51To me, the charming thing about it is it's all original.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54It's got the original little turned feet,

0:11:54 > 0:11:56the original knob handles,

0:11:56 > 0:11:59it even opens up inside.

0:11:59 > 0:12:02Commercially, it's worth about £200-£300.

0:12:04 > 0:12:05Do you know anybody who wants it?

0:12:05 > 0:12:07THEY LAUGH

0:12:12 > 0:12:14Well, it's handmade.

0:12:15 > 0:12:18It's handmade - in part because it IS handmade...

0:12:18 > 0:12:20SHE LAUGHS

0:12:20 > 0:12:21..it also is handmade

0:12:21 > 0:12:24because there's a sticker here that says "handmade"!

0:12:24 > 0:12:28It's one of the advantages of being able to read.

0:12:28 > 0:12:33- And it also says The Great British Bake Off.- Yes.

0:12:33 > 0:12:34Crumbs!

0:12:34 > 0:12:36- Did you win this?- I did.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38- Is that right?- Series five, yes.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41And what did you cook?

0:12:41 > 0:12:43A red windmill, the Moulin Rouge.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46- OK, have you got a bit left of it? - SHE LAUGHS

0:12:46 > 0:12:47Not now, no!

0:12:47 > 0:12:51This is really fabulous, it's a very, very beautiful dress.

0:12:51 > 0:12:53- Thank you.- Is it something that you've worn?

0:12:53 > 0:12:55No, it's not mine, it belongs to my friend,

0:12:55 > 0:12:59but she lives in Greece so I said I'd bring it on her behalf.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01This is textbook 1920s.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- Beautiful.- It's probably about 1925, to be exact.

0:13:04 > 0:13:08We have bugle beads, metal thread, sequins,

0:13:08 > 0:13:11beautifully arranged and in an amazing condition.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13It has a value.

0:13:13 > 0:13:14How much?

0:13:14 > 0:13:18Well, because of its condition and its wear-ability,

0:13:18 > 0:13:22a dress like this would easily be £800.

0:13:22 > 0:13:27Oh! I told her, I told her it was a really nice dress.

0:13:27 > 0:13:29Oh, how lovely. She'll be so pleased.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38Who is this gentleman in a First World War uniform?

0:13:38 > 0:13:41This is my grandfather, Albert Ruffy.

0:13:41 > 0:13:44In the First World War he was shot a couple of times

0:13:44 > 0:13:46and we've still got the bullets from the First World War.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48- Really?- Yeah.

0:13:48 > 0:13:51Now, when he'd left being a soldier in the First World War,

0:13:51 > 0:13:53what did he do then?

0:13:53 > 0:13:55I'm not quite sure exactly what his trade was,

0:13:55 > 0:13:57but up until when he went into the...

0:13:57 > 0:13:59When we entered into the Second World War,

0:13:59 > 0:14:00he was part of the Customs.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02And as the war ended,

0:14:02 > 0:14:07we started to repatriate some of the German prisoners of war.

0:14:07 > 0:14:10- Yes.- Now, I understand he was involved with that.

0:14:10 > 0:14:12He was. As the Customs were dealing with the Germans

0:14:12 > 0:14:15going from the prisoner-of-war camps back to Germany,

0:14:15 > 0:14:17they had to go through a period

0:14:17 > 0:14:20where all of their belongings were taken from them,

0:14:20 > 0:14:23they weren't allowed to take anything back to Germany with them,

0:14:23 > 0:14:27and everything was destroyed before they left the country, hence...

0:14:27 > 0:14:29- These two.- Yes.

0:14:29 > 0:14:32Now, these are two diaries that he was given by a German as he was...?

0:14:32 > 0:14:35Yeah, he spoke a little bit of German himself,

0:14:35 > 0:14:39and the story goes that the German, who we think was called Erich,

0:14:39 > 0:14:41there's reference to him in the books,

0:14:41 > 0:14:45but gave them to him and asked him if he would keep them safe

0:14:45 > 0:14:48because, to him, they were valuable and he didn't want them destroyed.

0:14:48 > 0:14:51Those soldiers that we see from the newsreels,

0:14:51 > 0:14:57in certain...pieces of film, are Nazis.

0:14:57 > 0:14:59They really are,

0:14:59 > 0:15:03and they had been brought up from very small children

0:15:03 > 0:15:06to believe in this idealistic world

0:15:06 > 0:15:10that their Fuhrer, their leader, Adolf Hitler,

0:15:10 > 0:15:11had made for them.

0:15:12 > 0:15:18The owner of your diary was a member of the SS, the Schutzstaffel.

0:15:18 > 0:15:19- OK.- The lightning squad.

0:15:20 > 0:15:23Those...feared troops.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27And he was very proud of the fact

0:15:27 > 0:15:30that he was part of this unit,

0:15:30 > 0:15:31and that's not something

0:15:31 > 0:15:35that we necessarily feel very comfortable with today,

0:15:35 > 0:15:37- all those years afterwards.- Yeah.

0:15:37 > 0:15:42And there are some images in here that people may find offensive,

0:15:42 > 0:15:44but they are definitely part of history.

0:15:44 > 0:15:46- Yeah.- The little diary that we have open,

0:15:46 > 0:15:51they have used an eagle from their coat

0:15:51 > 0:15:53as a template.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55Ah, right.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58It's commemorating, first of all, Hitler's birthday,

0:15:58 > 0:16:02and then the fact that, in 1945, he had died.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- Yeah.- But they're saying is

0:16:05 > 0:16:10that their honour is commanding still their loyalty,

0:16:10 > 0:16:12which is the motto of the SS.

0:16:12 > 0:16:13Mm.

0:16:13 > 0:16:16And in this one, another...

0:16:18 > 0:16:20..eulogy, I suppose.

0:16:20 > 0:16:22It's crafted from a stamp, actually.

0:16:22 > 0:16:24That's how they've made this.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26We did wonder how that part had come about.

0:16:26 > 0:16:28They've cut it out of two stamps,

0:16:28 > 0:16:30and I think probably a piece of headed paper.

0:16:30 > 0:16:32The diaries are written in German.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34- They are, yes.- And some of it in Gothic German,

0:16:34 > 0:16:35which is very difficult to read.

0:16:35 > 0:16:37- Yes.- Have you had them translated?

0:16:37 > 0:16:41We've had the majority of this one translated,

0:16:41 > 0:16:43and part of it is quite moving

0:16:43 > 0:16:45because they touch on comradeship

0:16:45 > 0:16:49and the fact that they're, whatever they're in, it's together.

0:16:49 > 0:16:52And then a lot of it is more, as you've said,

0:16:52 > 0:16:57to do with the actual war itself and what's going on at the time.

0:16:58 > 0:17:00Not destroyed by your grandad,

0:17:00 > 0:17:02which I think was the order.

0:17:02 > 0:17:05Yeah. I think the reason that he kept them as well

0:17:05 > 0:17:07was because he was very interested in artistry.

0:17:07 > 0:17:11There are some fantastic drawings in here. I mean, really good drawings.

0:17:11 > 0:17:14I've had a think about what this would be on the open market,

0:17:14 > 0:17:17and it's a very difficult thing to put a price on.

0:17:17 > 0:17:19But I certainly think you'd have to be looking at

0:17:19 > 0:17:22somewhere between £400 and £600 for the pair of diaries,

0:17:22 > 0:17:25- I think that would be somewhere in that region.- Yeah.

0:17:25 > 0:17:28- Thank you for bringing them in and showing us.- No problem.

0:17:28 > 0:17:30And thank you for having the courage, I suppose.

0:17:30 > 0:17:32I'm pleased you found them interesting.

0:17:32 > 0:17:34- Thank you so much.- OK, thank you.

0:17:37 > 0:17:39Well, we couldn't come to Hull

0:17:39 > 0:17:42without finding a piece of whaling history, obviously,

0:17:42 > 0:17:45and you have brought me probably the best piece of scrimshaw

0:17:45 > 0:17:47that I've seen for a very, very long time.

0:17:47 > 0:17:49How did you come to have it?

0:17:49 > 0:17:52I came across it at an auction online.

0:17:52 > 0:17:55I'm interested in the history of Hull

0:17:55 > 0:17:59and any artefacts that can help to tell the history,

0:17:59 > 0:18:00and I managed to obtain it.

0:18:00 > 0:18:03Basically, what it is, it's a vesta case,

0:18:03 > 0:18:04so it's a little match case

0:18:04 > 0:18:06made out of a sperm-whale tooth.

0:18:06 > 0:18:09And the top, I'm pretty sure, is made of baleen,

0:18:09 > 0:18:12and then it's inset with a little piece of shagreen,

0:18:12 > 0:18:13which is sharkskin,

0:18:13 > 0:18:17which obviously, being very rough, you can strike the matches on.

0:18:17 > 0:18:20But what is really nice about this is it's actually inscribed

0:18:20 > 0:18:22with the name of the whaling ship.

0:18:22 > 0:18:26We have the date, 1852,

0:18:26 > 0:18:31and also the gentleman himself who inscribed it, J Penn.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33It's actually quite nicely engraved,

0:18:33 > 0:18:35and we've got a lighthouse on one side

0:18:35 > 0:18:39and then we have an almost scantily clad lady there,

0:18:39 > 0:18:41almost in Regency dress.

0:18:41 > 0:18:43Even though this was engraved in the 1850s,

0:18:43 > 0:18:47she's almost wearing a dress that could be from the 1820s, 1830s.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50And then on the other side we have a lovely little mermaid,

0:18:50 > 0:18:54and then a little vase of flowers on the other side.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57Obviously it's got the name of the whaling ship on the top of it,

0:18:57 > 0:19:00Truelove. Did you know anything about the ship at all?

0:19:00 > 0:19:03Yes, I was familiar with the ship the Truelove.

0:19:03 > 0:19:07The Hull Maritime Museum have the original flag from the ship

0:19:07 > 0:19:10and there's quite a lot of history known in the area

0:19:10 > 0:19:12about the Truelove being

0:19:12 > 0:19:15an ex-American ship of the Independence wars,

0:19:15 > 0:19:18and that the British liberated off the Americans,

0:19:18 > 0:19:23and then I understand it was converted to a whaler.

0:19:23 > 0:19:24It's a lovely piece.

0:19:24 > 0:19:26Of course, the thing is with scrimshaw

0:19:26 > 0:19:28is that we do see so many fakes of them,

0:19:28 > 0:19:31but this one is absolutely correct in every way.

0:19:31 > 0:19:33I think it's a lovely thing.

0:19:33 > 0:19:36It's doubly interesting that obviously it's local history,

0:19:36 > 0:19:38also the fact it's a match-holder.

0:19:38 > 0:19:40Can I ask how much you actually paid for it at auction?

0:19:40 > 0:19:43Yes, I paid around £400 for it at the auction,

0:19:43 > 0:19:46but it wasn't catalogued up very well.

0:19:46 > 0:19:49The auctioneers didn't do a very good job, I don't think,

0:19:49 > 0:19:51of cataloguing it up rightly, so...

0:19:51 > 0:19:53Well, I think that must have been your game,

0:19:53 > 0:19:56because at £400 you did extremely well.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58You know, it's a really nice example,

0:19:58 > 0:20:00it's quite a rare thing, being a vesta case.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03It's beautifully engraved, the mermaid on it,

0:20:03 > 0:20:06local history, you know, it's got everything going for it.

0:20:06 > 0:20:08If it were to come up for auction locally

0:20:08 > 0:20:11I would have no hesitation

0:20:11 > 0:20:14in seeing it selling for around £2,000-£2,500.

0:20:14 > 0:20:16That's very nice, very good.

0:20:17 > 0:20:21- It's a really nice piece. - Very nice. Thank you for that.

0:20:24 > 0:20:29So, we've got a lovely collection of letters by Florence Nightingale,

0:20:29 > 0:20:33the great Crimean heroine, pioneer of nursing,

0:20:33 > 0:20:35to Henry Power.

0:20:35 > 0:20:36Tell me about them.

0:20:36 > 0:20:40Yes, well Henry Power was my great-grandfather.

0:20:40 > 0:20:41He was an eye surgeon.

0:20:41 > 0:20:45He practised at St Thomas's Hospital in London.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47And he met Florence Nightingale there,

0:20:47 > 0:20:50because she set up her nursing school

0:20:50 > 0:20:52in 1860 in St Thomas's Hospital.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55- Yes.- And he became her eye surgeon?

0:20:55 > 0:20:57- Yes.- She had trouble with her eyes?

0:20:57 > 0:21:00Yes, they were fading towards her later life.

0:21:00 > 0:21:03So, we start off with a letter like this which is written in pencil,

0:21:03 > 0:21:07and it's Henry Power, here it is, it's dated 1897.

0:21:07 > 0:21:11She died quite early on in the new century.

0:21:11 > 0:21:13She says, "My dear Sir,

0:21:13 > 0:21:15"I do not know whether you are in town

0:21:15 > 0:21:17"or likely to be in town tomorrow, Monday.

0:21:17 > 0:21:20"But if you are in town,

0:21:20 > 0:21:23"could you kindly come and see me?

0:21:23 > 0:21:25"My eyes are very bad.

0:21:25 > 0:21:28"The best time for me would be 5:30pm but, of course,

0:21:28 > 0:21:30"your time must be my time.

0:21:30 > 0:21:33"Yours faithfully, Florence Nightingale."

0:21:33 > 0:21:36And so she writes this from, I suppose, her bed,

0:21:36 > 0:21:39or on a sofa at very best.

0:21:39 > 0:21:40- Yes.- Because this is 1897,

0:21:40 > 0:21:45and if we look at an earlier letter that she wrote here, which is 1887,

0:21:45 > 0:21:49to "My Dear Sir," again about her eyes,

0:21:49 > 0:21:53the handwriting, which is in pen, is absolutely copperplate

0:21:53 > 0:21:55- and very, very clear.- Yes.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58And so she had bad eyesight throughout her life,

0:21:58 > 0:22:01I suppose, and towards the end of her life

0:22:01 > 0:22:03she had to see a lot with him.

0:22:03 > 0:22:06So, these cover really, what, the last 20 years of her life?

0:22:06 > 0:22:07- I should think so.- Really?

0:22:07 > 0:22:11She was getting on and her eyes were becoming more and more troublesome.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13But it is a wonderful collection,

0:22:13 > 0:22:16- and very nice to see her character coming through.- Yes.

0:22:16 > 0:22:18Just before she set up at St Thomas',

0:22:18 > 0:22:22she wrote her famous book - Florence Nightingale wrote

0:22:22 > 0:22:24- Nursing: - What It Is and What It Is Not.- Yes.

0:22:24 > 0:22:26Which I think is absolutely tremendous.

0:22:26 > 0:22:30"What It Is Not", and I think that was what she was very worried about,

0:22:30 > 0:22:32that it was very much a casual affair

0:22:32 > 0:22:36and not the more formal affair and the more sterile affair

0:22:36 > 0:22:38that we have come to know her for.

0:22:38 > 0:22:40So, you've got eight letters here.

0:22:40 > 0:22:42- Yes.- We have to value them.

0:22:42 > 0:22:44Right.

0:22:44 > 0:22:49Florence Nightingale is very desirable, autographically.

0:22:49 > 0:22:52From a feminist point of view, she is very desirable.

0:22:52 > 0:22:56From a nursing point of view, again, terribly desirable.

0:22:56 > 0:23:01You would never get a Florence Nightingale letter for under £500.

0:23:01 > 0:23:02Right.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04Some of these are very good letters.

0:23:04 > 0:23:07They mention all sorts of things, but they're mostly about eyes.

0:23:07 > 0:23:10Unfortunately they're not about the Crimea,

0:23:10 > 0:23:12in which case we'd be talking about thousands.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15So, you have eight letters,

0:23:15 > 0:23:18so, conservatively, we could say £4,000.

0:23:20 > 0:23:22That's good for a lot of paper, isn't it?

0:23:22 > 0:23:24HE LAUGHS

0:23:26 > 0:23:31Well, you've brought along a small, rectangular, satin-lidded box,

0:23:31 > 0:23:33and it's a small box,

0:23:33 > 0:23:36but it doesn't half pack a mighty punch

0:23:36 > 0:23:38when you open up the lid, doesn't it?

0:23:38 > 0:23:43Because, inside, you have this extraordinary-looking brooch.

0:23:43 > 0:23:47Is it a butterfly or is it a moth?

0:23:47 > 0:23:50Well, in my opinion, that is a very fine moth.

0:23:50 > 0:23:53It is. Why? Because it's got those outstretched wings

0:23:53 > 0:23:55- and the fat, bulbous body.- For sure.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58Very slimline wings.

0:23:58 > 0:24:02It was made in around about the end of the 19th century,

0:24:02 > 0:24:04so sort of circa 1900,

0:24:04 > 0:24:06but what do you know about it?

0:24:06 > 0:24:09It was a gift from my mother-in-law

0:24:09 > 0:24:11when we got married in 1983.

0:24:12 > 0:24:16So she presented me with the very fine blue box and said,

0:24:16 > 0:24:18"This is for you."

0:24:18 > 0:24:21It was hers before, so I was a very grateful recipient.

0:24:21 > 0:24:24- I should think you were. - Do you wear it?

0:24:24 > 0:24:26- No.- It sits there...

0:24:26 > 0:24:28It sits in my dressing table in a drawer.

0:24:28 > 0:24:31This poor butterfly/moth in a drawer.

0:24:31 > 0:24:33It's being kept in the dark, yes.

0:24:33 > 0:24:36- So, you don't know what it's made of?- No. I don't.

0:24:36 > 0:24:41It could be glass, marcasite, because they usually were.

0:24:41 > 0:24:45- Right.- Well, it's not glass or marcasite, it's diamonds.

0:24:45 > 0:24:49- Wow!- So, it's pave-set with diamonds,

0:24:49 > 0:24:52old Victorian-cut diamonds,

0:24:52 > 0:24:55smothering the surface of the wings.

0:24:55 > 0:24:59- Wow.- So, if I may just take it out of the box,

0:24:59 > 0:25:01see what we've got.

0:25:01 > 0:25:03The outstretched wings, I think,

0:25:03 > 0:25:05show you the size of the thing.

0:25:05 > 0:25:08When you turn it over, you notice that at the back

0:25:08 > 0:25:11it's set in gold and silver,

0:25:11 > 0:25:14and you've noticed that the brooch pin itself

0:25:14 > 0:25:18has got this little what I call actually a butterfly fitting

0:25:18 > 0:25:20at the back.

0:25:20 > 0:25:25- It's a little fitting that you can unscrew the brooch pin.- Golly.

0:25:25 > 0:25:27And the reason that that would have been done,

0:25:27 > 0:25:29in around about 1900,

0:25:29 > 0:25:32was that there would usually have been

0:25:32 > 0:25:34a double-prong fitting at the back

0:25:34 > 0:25:38to convert it to be worn at the back of your bun.

0:25:38 > 0:25:41- Gosh!- Do you notice the little rubies?

0:25:41 > 0:25:44- Yes, the eyes. - The eyes set with ruby cabochons.

0:25:44 > 0:25:46- Right.- Nice touch.- Very good.

0:25:46 > 0:25:48- Nice touch.- Yes, absolutely.

0:25:48 > 0:25:53So, it's a very, very good example of late Victorian naturalism,

0:25:53 > 0:25:56but it's set with very good-quality diamonds.

0:25:56 > 0:25:57Right.

0:25:57 > 0:26:00Let's move on to its potential value.

0:26:00 > 0:26:03So, from your point of view, no idea?

0:26:03 > 0:26:04No idea at all.

0:26:04 > 0:26:08Now, the issue of what it is is important,

0:26:08 > 0:26:12because if it's perceived as a moth it's one value,

0:26:12 > 0:26:16and if it's perceived as a butterfly it's another value.

0:26:16 > 0:26:18You're pulling my leg?

0:26:18 > 0:26:20Why should that be? No, no, no!

0:26:20 > 0:26:25Because why? We all love butterflies but we don't like moths, do we?

0:26:25 > 0:26:27We get rid of moths in our bedroom at night-time,

0:26:27 > 0:26:30but butterflies we welcome during the daytime,

0:26:30 > 0:26:33and that impacts upon the value, too.

0:26:33 > 0:26:35- Right.- So, I'm going to give you two values.

0:26:35 > 0:26:38- OK.- Moth and butterfly.

0:26:39 > 0:26:42If it's a moth, £7,000.

0:26:44 > 0:26:46God! That's gobsmacking, isn't it?

0:26:46 > 0:26:51If someone thinks that's the most beautiful butterfly in the world...

0:26:51 > 0:26:53- Yes?- ..£9,000 to £10,000.

0:26:53 > 0:26:54Wow!

0:26:54 > 0:26:58Well, to me, it was just a very pretty, pretty piece of jewellery.

0:26:58 > 0:27:00I had no idea.

0:27:00 > 0:27:04I believe your mother-in-law knew exactly what she was doing

0:27:04 > 0:27:05when she gave it to you.

0:27:05 > 0:27:08- She wasn't stupid, I must say. - Then she was hoping that one day

0:27:08 > 0:27:11you'd bring it along to the Antiques Roadshow

0:27:11 > 0:27:13to show it to one of us

0:27:13 > 0:27:15so we could tell you exactly what it was.

0:27:15 > 0:27:20But I can tell you, as someone who loves butterflies or moths

0:27:20 > 0:27:21as much as I do,

0:27:21 > 0:27:25that's a serious piece of diamond jewellery.

0:27:25 > 0:27:26- Great!- So, well done.

0:27:26 > 0:27:28Thanks for saying that. That's terrific.

0:27:28 > 0:27:32I shall think of my mother-in-law a lot now with great affection.

0:27:32 > 0:27:34- Thank you very much.- Thank you, OK.

0:27:37 > 0:27:39Do you know, I can safely say this is the first time

0:27:39 > 0:27:41I've ever filmed a saddle on the Antiques Roadshow.

0:27:41 > 0:27:46What's more, it's interesting that it should be an American saddle.

0:27:46 > 0:27:47Now, this is a saddle that, of course,

0:27:47 > 0:27:51everyone who's watching will immediately associate with cowboys.

0:27:51 > 0:27:55- That's right.- You don't look like a Western re-enactor to me.

0:27:55 > 0:27:59So, firstly, explain how you come to own this.

0:27:59 > 0:28:03Well, it's always been in the family

0:28:03 > 0:28:06since probably the 1970s.

0:28:06 > 0:28:08My father was a jockey.

0:28:08 > 0:28:10- Right.- He was always into horses.

0:28:10 > 0:28:14We had a riding stable, and I think one day

0:28:14 > 0:28:17he just went out to the local tack shop

0:28:17 > 0:28:20and got one, or got it shipped in from America,

0:28:20 > 0:28:22and he just came home with it.

0:28:22 > 0:28:25It's always been in our family since then.

0:28:25 > 0:28:27It's never been used, apart from once.

0:28:27 > 0:28:30So, what was the one occasion, then, that you tried the saddle?

0:28:30 > 0:28:34Well, funnily enough, I took my pony back home

0:28:34 > 0:28:36and we tried it out on the pony,

0:28:36 > 0:28:40cos it's been there stuck in the hallway for years

0:28:40 > 0:28:42and we decided to put it on there.

0:28:42 > 0:28:43It's the only time it's been on my pony.

0:28:43 > 0:28:46That's really good. How old are you in that photograph?

0:28:46 > 0:28:48- I'm only 14.- 14 years old?

0:28:48 > 0:28:50- Yes.- That's wonderful. If you look at the size of the saddle,

0:28:50 > 0:28:52it's a big saddle for a small pony

0:28:52 > 0:28:55because, of course, this is really a range saddle,

0:28:55 > 0:28:57made for a much bigger horse.

0:28:57 > 0:28:59In fact, there's a great deal of tradition

0:28:59 > 0:29:01imbued in the history of this saddle,

0:29:01 > 0:29:03and it takes us back a long time,

0:29:03 > 0:29:06really as far as the Moors and Spain, basically,

0:29:06 > 0:29:11because this saddle is made for a very particular purpose.

0:29:11 > 0:29:14Now, there are very many different types of American saddle,

0:29:14 > 0:29:17apart from that kind of cowboy image that we have of them.

0:29:17 > 0:29:23This saddle, really, is made for one very specific purpose - comfort.

0:29:23 > 0:29:26This type of saddle is for sitting in for a long time,

0:29:26 > 0:29:30big stirrups, and primarily for dealing with cattle.

0:29:30 > 0:29:33Now, it's beautifully decorated, isn't it?

0:29:33 > 0:29:36- Yes, absolutely. - It's tooled all over,

0:29:36 > 0:29:39and often people call these saddles "show saddles"

0:29:39 > 0:29:42because they look so spectacular.

0:29:42 > 0:29:46In fact, actually, I suspect that many people in America

0:29:46 > 0:29:47that sit on saddles like this

0:29:47 > 0:29:50never really utilise all the historical aspects of them.

0:29:50 > 0:29:53I suspect most people never use a lasso...

0:29:53 > 0:29:54THEY LAUGH

0:29:54 > 0:29:57..and never use the pommel or the horn.

0:29:57 > 0:30:01So in fact what has happened is that this feature of an American saddle

0:30:01 > 0:30:04- has kind of just always stayed there, really.- Yes.

0:30:04 > 0:30:08Now, when your father purchased this in the '60s or '70s,

0:30:08 > 0:30:11I imagine it would have cost him quite a lot of money.

0:30:11 > 0:30:12Did he ever make reference to that?

0:30:12 > 0:30:15No, never. I don't think so.

0:30:15 > 0:30:18My mother never found out how much it did actually cost!

0:30:18 > 0:30:19THEY LAUGH

0:30:19 > 0:30:22I think he just turned up one day with it.

0:30:22 > 0:30:24She was probably quite surprised.

0:30:24 > 0:30:25- Yes.- I think in that period,

0:30:25 > 0:30:29there probably weren't so many American saddles in the UK.

0:30:29 > 0:30:33Now, if you were to go and buy a saddle like this from Big Horn,

0:30:33 > 0:30:35who are still in business,

0:30:35 > 0:30:37they still make saddles...

0:30:37 > 0:30:41This has kind of got a little bit of a vintage connection.

0:30:41 > 0:30:44It's also got an emotive connection to your father.

0:30:44 > 0:30:46Yes. He passed away, didn't he?

0:30:46 > 0:30:48Yes, he did, when I was ten years old.

0:30:48 > 0:30:50Ten years old? A long time ago.

0:30:50 > 0:30:53So this saddle is a connection to him, isn't it?

0:30:53 > 0:30:56Certainly, if you had to go and buy a saddle like this,

0:30:56 > 0:30:59I could see it costing you £700 to £1,000 to buy.

0:31:00 > 0:31:02It really is a very beautiful thing,

0:31:02 > 0:31:04but it's beautiful to you in many ways

0:31:04 > 0:31:06and you're obviously never going to sell it

0:31:06 > 0:31:08and it's going to carry on standing in your hallway...

0:31:08 > 0:31:11- Absolutely.- ..as a great reminder of your father.

0:31:11 > 0:31:14- Thanks ever so much for bringing it in.- Thank you.

0:31:18 > 0:31:20It's not often on the Antiques Roadshow

0:31:20 > 0:31:23we feature stories about a shark attack, and what's more,

0:31:23 > 0:31:25a man fighting off a shark attack.

0:31:25 > 0:31:28- But this is what happened to your uncle?- Yes.

0:31:28 > 0:31:31He was a ship's cook on trawlers.

0:31:31 > 0:31:33How long ago are we talking about?

0:31:33 > 0:31:35This is 1934.

0:31:35 > 0:31:37Your uncle, Noel Kinch, was he a local man?

0:31:37 > 0:31:40He was from Grimsby. He'd sailed from Grimsby port.

0:31:40 > 0:31:44I believe it was 1936 when he was awarded this medal.

0:31:44 > 0:31:46- This medal here?- Yeah.

0:31:46 > 0:31:49They were fishing and the boatswain got washed overboard.

0:31:49 > 0:31:52He injured his back when going over the railings,

0:31:52 > 0:31:56and my uncle kicked off his wellies and jumped over the side.

0:31:56 > 0:32:00Went into the water and, when he got to the boatswain,

0:32:00 > 0:32:03the boatswain had been attacked by a shark,

0:32:03 > 0:32:05and he'd been bitten on the arm,

0:32:05 > 0:32:08and the shark came back and attacked again

0:32:08 > 0:32:11and my uncle got bitten in the back but he fought the shark off.

0:32:11 > 0:32:14They were in the sea for 40 minutes.

0:32:14 > 0:32:15So he fought off a shark...

0:32:15 > 0:32:18- Yeah.- ..saved his crew mate and lived to tell the tale?

0:32:18 > 0:32:21- Yes.- And he was then awarded this medal for bravery?

0:32:21 > 0:32:23- Yes.- What an extraordinary man!

0:32:23 > 0:32:26Yes. He never told anyone.

0:32:26 > 0:32:28We never knew anything about it in the family.

0:32:28 > 0:32:31It came to light when my younger sister

0:32:31 > 0:32:33started doing the family tree.

0:32:33 > 0:32:34This is a press report?

0:32:34 > 0:32:35Yes.

0:32:36 > 0:32:38"Fisherman decorated."

0:32:39 > 0:32:42"Congratulations of the Duke of Gloucester.

0:32:42 > 0:32:44"Fought shark to save shipmate."

0:32:46 > 0:32:49This sounds like something out of a Boy's Own Annual.

0:32:49 > 0:32:51Yes, it's quite a story.

0:32:51 > 0:32:54"Bond begged him to leave him as he was finished

0:32:54 > 0:32:57"and try himself to get back to the ship."

0:32:57 > 0:32:59But your uncle "kept hold of him

0:32:59 > 0:33:01"and swam until the skipper manoeuvred the Northern Pride

0:33:01 > 0:33:03"towards them."

0:33:03 > 0:33:04So that took 40 minutes?

0:33:04 > 0:33:06- Yes.- Wow!

0:33:07 > 0:33:10How extraordinary!

0:33:10 > 0:33:12Being a ship's cook, I don't think he liked his own food,

0:33:12 > 0:33:14he was trying to get off!

0:33:14 > 0:33:16He just wanted to come up for some fresh air!

0:33:16 > 0:33:19- Yeah.- How remarkable!

0:33:19 > 0:33:21This medal has been passed down the family?

0:33:21 > 0:33:24No, it was sold by my uncle.

0:33:24 > 0:33:28My sister, when she was doing the research on this, she found it.

0:33:28 > 0:33:30It had been auctioned,

0:33:30 > 0:33:33and she contacted the dealer who'd bought it

0:33:33 > 0:33:35and she bought it back off him.

0:33:35 > 0:33:37Why did your uncle sell it?

0:33:37 > 0:33:39I've no idea. I don't know why.

0:33:39 > 0:33:43He probably needed money at the time, yeah.

0:33:43 > 0:33:46- Well, thank you for sharing the story.- It's all right, yeah.

0:33:46 > 0:33:50- That's one I will remember for a long time.- Yeah.

0:33:50 > 0:33:54As far as the medal goes, I think Jon Baddeley is your man,

0:33:54 > 0:33:59but clearly, in terms of his story, and his contribution,

0:33:59 > 0:34:03- you can't put a value on that, can you?- No, no, you can't.

0:34:06 > 0:34:08Here we have two guns,

0:34:08 > 0:34:13both serving a similar purpose, self-defence.

0:34:13 > 0:34:15That is the French idea

0:34:15 > 0:34:17of a self-defence pistol.

0:34:17 > 0:34:215mm pin-fire with all the stopping power of a wet tissue!

0:34:22 > 0:34:24This, on the other hand,

0:34:24 > 0:34:27is the English idea of a self-defence pistol.

0:34:29 > 0:34:30Double-action.

0:34:31 > 0:34:34Six-shot, and if you don't get him with the first six,

0:34:34 > 0:34:37you can deploy a spring bayonet on him.

0:34:38 > 0:34:44How come you've got such contrasting pistols?

0:34:44 > 0:34:49I've always had an interest in the history of firearms

0:34:49 > 0:34:51and I bought these two some years ago.

0:34:51 > 0:34:53I had some others.

0:34:53 > 0:34:54I bought them because

0:34:54 > 0:34:59they show the characteristics you're mentioning there.

0:34:59 > 0:35:04That is a really well-built English so-called transitional revolver.

0:35:04 > 0:35:10This one was the type of thing which a gentleman would slip in his pocket

0:35:10 > 0:35:13in La Place Pigalle, I suppose.

0:35:13 > 0:35:15It's a cigar case, basically,

0:35:15 > 0:35:19but when the gentleman opened it to get out a cigar,

0:35:19 > 0:35:21there we have a revolver.

0:35:21 > 0:35:25So, they're both of a similar period, 1850s, 1860s.

0:35:27 > 0:35:30No maker on that one, it's just a French pistol.

0:35:30 > 0:35:33That's a local maker, Balchin, I think it is?

0:35:33 > 0:35:34Edmund Balchin, yes.

0:35:34 > 0:35:36Edmund Balchin, from Hull.

0:35:38 > 0:35:39To give you an idea of the thing,

0:35:39 > 0:35:42he made those, but he also made harpoon guns as well.

0:35:42 > 0:35:43You can see the sort of thing.

0:35:43 > 0:35:46I'm going to make this a real stopper.

0:35:46 > 0:35:48What did you pay for the little French one?

0:35:48 > 0:35:50I think it was around about £300

0:35:50 > 0:35:52about 10 or 11 years ago.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54The contrast between the two...

0:35:54 > 0:35:57I mean, that is archetypally French.

0:35:57 > 0:35:59It's so elegant, and I think you'd also find

0:35:59 > 0:36:03some of the more interesting French ladies would be using that as well.

0:36:03 > 0:36:05- Indeed.- That, no.

0:36:05 > 0:36:09No other race in the world could make anything like that.

0:36:09 > 0:36:11It's just... Let's just have another look at it.

0:36:13 > 0:36:16The size of the ball, that's half-inch,

0:36:16 > 0:36:20that's going to ruin your day at 20 yards.

0:36:20 > 0:36:22- Yes.- It'll ruin your day six times.

0:36:23 > 0:36:27It's beautifully engraved, open-scroll,

0:36:27 > 0:36:29wonderful chequering.

0:36:29 > 0:36:32That is chequered by hand.

0:36:32 > 0:36:34It's perfect.

0:36:34 > 0:36:36It's absolutely superb.

0:36:37 > 0:36:42Steel furniture, none of your fancy nonsense on this!

0:36:42 > 0:36:44It's just a wonderful...

0:36:44 > 0:36:46And it's in glorious condition.

0:36:46 > 0:36:48Now, values.

0:36:48 > 0:36:51Do the French one first.

0:36:51 > 0:36:52People like little -

0:36:52 > 0:36:57and that's elegant and little and it's in a lovely case.

0:36:57 > 0:36:59At auction...

0:37:00 > 0:37:02£450?

0:37:02 > 0:37:04- Perhaps five.- That's fine.

0:37:05 > 0:37:10This - I could see that making £1,000.

0:37:11 > 0:37:13It's such a nice thing.

0:37:13 > 0:37:16If I had £1,000, I'd be trying to buy it.

0:37:16 > 0:37:18I think they're just wonderful.

0:37:18 > 0:37:20Well, I am going to sell it in a few weeks' time.

0:37:20 > 0:37:22Oh, don't tempt me, don't tempt me!

0:37:24 > 0:37:27I never would have expected to see

0:37:27 > 0:37:29a beautiful Maori fish-hook here in Hull.

0:37:29 > 0:37:33I mean, how did you happen to bring that here?

0:37:33 > 0:37:36Well, we see the Antiques Roadshow in New Zealand,

0:37:36 > 0:37:39and when we were coming to England

0:37:39 > 0:37:42we researched the various sites that you had,

0:37:42 > 0:37:45and as this one is in Burton Constable at Holderness -

0:37:45 > 0:37:48our surname is Holderness, we had to come.

0:37:48 > 0:37:51Well, there are fish-hooks and there are fish-hooks.

0:37:51 > 0:37:53You know this is a fish-hook, don't you?

0:37:53 > 0:37:55- Yes, I do.- And you know where it's from, don't you?

0:37:55 > 0:37:57It's from New Zealand.

0:37:57 > 0:38:03Yes, it's a Maori fish-hook, called a pa kahawai.

0:38:03 > 0:38:05- Is that right?- Yes, pa kahawai.

0:38:05 > 0:38:08That's right, yeah. And it's a type of matau,

0:38:08 > 0:38:13which is a general name for Maori fish-hooks.

0:38:13 > 0:38:15It's a nice one.

0:38:15 > 0:38:18Is it something that you've inherited, something you found?

0:38:18 > 0:38:22Well, our grandfather used to go fishing from Wellington Harbour.

0:38:22 > 0:38:24We're just over from Wellington,

0:38:24 > 0:38:27and he used to catch the ferry from Wellington to Days Bay

0:38:27 > 0:38:29and hike over the hill to a fishing batch,

0:38:29 > 0:38:31and when he was going one day he found this in the bush,

0:38:31 > 0:38:33just lying in the bush.

0:38:33 > 0:38:36- When would that have been? - Probably, we think, around 1910.

0:38:36 > 0:38:39Wow. Well, it's older than that.

0:38:39 > 0:38:43That's amazing, to actually be in the presence

0:38:43 > 0:38:46of something that was actually found.

0:38:46 > 0:38:50This is a trawling lure, and they hung these out of the canoes,

0:38:50 > 0:38:52at the back of the canoes,

0:38:52 > 0:38:54as they were going in and out of the estuaries

0:38:54 > 0:38:56and along the coastal waters,

0:38:56 > 0:39:00and it's for surface fishing, or for catching fish like barracuda

0:39:00 > 0:39:02that surface-feed.

0:39:02 > 0:39:06They're on a long line of flax, some of which is left here.

0:39:07 > 0:39:10They're made of wood

0:39:10 > 0:39:11and this is abalone.

0:39:11 > 0:39:13What do the Maori call it?

0:39:13 > 0:39:18We call it paua. The canoes they used were called waka ama,

0:39:18 > 0:39:20which is the fishing canoe.

0:39:20 > 0:39:22This would have hung out the back of that.

0:39:22 > 0:39:27The abalone would have sparkled in the water like a fish,

0:39:27 > 0:39:29and the barracuda, or a surface-feeding fish,

0:39:29 > 0:39:35would have thought this was a fish and got lured and caught

0:39:35 > 0:39:37on this bone hook.

0:39:38 > 0:39:42I have to give it a value for the Roadshow audience,

0:39:42 > 0:39:45even though it's a family heirloom and of sentimental value,

0:39:45 > 0:39:49but one comparable to this

0:39:49 > 0:39:50came up recently

0:39:50 > 0:39:54and was valued at £1,800 to £2,200.

0:39:54 > 0:39:56As much as that?

0:39:56 > 0:39:58We'd never have thought of that.

0:39:59 > 0:40:01That's quite surprising, but it won't be sold.

0:40:05 > 0:40:09So, this was a medal awarded to your uncle, Noel Kinch,

0:40:09 > 0:40:10in, I think, the 1930s,

0:40:10 > 0:40:13- for an act of outstanding bravery?- Yes.

0:40:13 > 0:40:16Fiona told me the story, and what an incredible story.

0:40:16 > 0:40:19This here is the Northern Pride, which he served on board?

0:40:19 > 0:40:24Yes, that's the trawler that my uncle was a ship's cook on.

0:40:24 > 0:40:25- He was the ship's cook?- Yeah.

0:40:25 > 0:40:28His home port was Grimsby?

0:40:28 > 0:40:30Yes, he sailed from Grimsby.

0:40:30 > 0:40:33Because one maybe forgets nowadays

0:40:33 > 0:40:36that both Grimsby and Hull were massive fishing ports

0:40:36 > 0:40:38in the 19th and 20th century

0:40:38 > 0:40:40and, sadly, not so much today.

0:40:40 > 0:40:45- Yes.- But he must have been a superhero locally?- Yes.

0:40:45 > 0:40:46Well, I don't know, actually,

0:40:46 > 0:40:48because nobody knew about this story.

0:40:48 > 0:40:51- He never bragged? - He never bragged, no.

0:40:51 > 0:40:53The medal, called the Stanhope Medal,

0:40:53 > 0:40:57was issued by the Royal Humane Society.

0:40:57 > 0:41:01That society was founded way back in 1774, I think,

0:41:01 > 0:41:07in order to research into methods of reviving people who had drowned,

0:41:07 > 0:41:14and they issued the first of these medals 100 years later,

0:41:14 > 0:41:18so, 1873-1874, something like that.

0:41:20 > 0:41:24The remarkable thing about it is they only issued one every year.

0:41:24 > 0:41:30So, what you have is something that is incredibly scarce,

0:41:30 > 0:41:34intrinsically valued because it's solid gold

0:41:34 > 0:41:35and, most importantly,

0:41:35 > 0:41:37is the history and the story.

0:41:37 > 0:41:38So, you have something...

0:41:38 > 0:41:41I mean, it's something you're never going to get rid of.

0:41:41 > 0:41:43- No.- It will remain in the family forever?

0:41:43 > 0:41:46- Yes.- Which is exactly where it should be.- Yes.

0:41:46 > 0:41:49But, thinking of value,

0:41:49 > 0:41:50it's got everything.

0:41:50 > 0:41:52With medals, it is always the story,

0:41:52 > 0:41:56and you cannot get a better story than that.

0:41:56 > 0:41:59I would certainly think at auction, should it ever go to auction,

0:41:59 > 0:42:03you'd be thinking about a figure of between £6,000 and £10,000.

0:42:03 > 0:42:05Wow! Yeah.

0:42:07 > 0:42:08But it could be more. Who knows?

0:42:08 > 0:42:10Yes.

0:42:15 > 0:42:20You've brought along to me what has to be, without question,

0:42:20 > 0:42:22the smallest toilet pedestal in the world.

0:42:22 > 0:42:24Are you a toilet collector?

0:42:24 > 0:42:28I've got a friend and he digs bottles up as a hobby and he said,

0:42:28 > 0:42:29- "Do you want to buy it off me?"- Yeah?

0:42:29 > 0:42:31So I gave him £100 for it.

0:42:38 > 0:42:42This was on a stall and I asked the lady if I could pick it up,

0:42:42 > 0:42:44and she explained to me what it did,

0:42:44 > 0:42:48and when I saw what it did I thought it's really clever.

0:42:51 > 0:42:55This was almost certainly made as a travelling salesman's model.

0:42:55 > 0:42:58- Yes.- And no surprise that it's actually made by Doulton.

0:42:58 > 0:43:00This is cutting-edge stuff, isn't it,

0:43:00 > 0:43:02when it comes to engineering.

0:43:04 > 0:43:05Were you horribly shocked?

0:43:05 > 0:43:09Yeah, but it's quite amusing.

0:43:09 > 0:43:11And people said the Victorians were straight-laced!

0:43:11 > 0:43:13It's a great bit of fun,

0:43:13 > 0:43:16people love these rather slightly risque pieces.

0:43:16 > 0:43:18You paid £10 for it.

0:43:18 > 0:43:21I think I could see a collector paying £100 for that.

0:43:21 > 0:43:23- Really?- Because where would you find another one?

0:43:27 > 0:43:31Well, I know exactly what it's worth, because you've just told me,

0:43:31 > 0:43:33because, to you, that is worth £100.

0:43:33 > 0:43:36But when you think about it, £100 is cheap,

0:43:36 > 0:43:39because there'll come a time in your life

0:43:39 > 0:43:42when you'll be desperate to spend a penny!

0:43:42 > 0:43:44LAUGHTER

0:43:47 > 0:43:48Jack, you live here in Burton Constable,

0:43:48 > 0:43:51this has been in your family for hundreds of years.

0:43:51 > 0:43:53You've brought this from the chapel

0:43:53 > 0:43:57and it has a particularly emotional significance for your family?

0:43:57 > 0:44:01Yes, this is my great-granduncle Cecil's crucifix,

0:44:01 > 0:44:03which he wore around his neck

0:44:03 > 0:44:04throughout his life.

0:44:04 > 0:44:07He was a soldier in the First World War and in the Second World War.

0:44:07 > 0:44:10Cecil had been a prisoner of war in the First World War

0:44:10 > 0:44:14for the entire war, apart from his first six days,

0:44:14 > 0:44:16from the age of 21.

0:44:16 > 0:44:17And he said there was no way

0:44:17 > 0:44:21he was going to be a prisoner of war in the Second World War as well,

0:44:21 > 0:44:25and so he last seen heading out to meet the SS, pistol in hand.

0:44:25 > 0:44:28He thought it was over for his troops, did he?

0:44:28 > 0:44:30He thought there was no way he could escape,

0:44:30 > 0:44:32and he was not going to be a prisoner of war again.

0:44:32 > 0:44:36- So he decided he would go down in a blaze of gunfire and glory?- Exactly.

0:44:36 > 0:44:38As he lay dying from his wounds,

0:44:38 > 0:44:41this young Lance-Corporal, Alfons Dahlhoff,

0:44:41 > 0:44:43who was a Grenadier for the SS,

0:44:43 > 0:44:45came across him and saw his crucifix hanging from his neck.

0:44:45 > 0:44:47So this was a German soldier?

0:44:47 > 0:44:49Yes, it was a German soldier, who was a fellow Catholic,

0:44:49 > 0:44:52and sat by him in his last moments,

0:44:52 > 0:44:54comforting him in his death throes.

0:44:54 > 0:44:57And Cecil was able to give him both the crucifix

0:44:57 > 0:44:59and his last letters home,

0:44:59 > 0:45:00which he had in his pocket,

0:45:00 > 0:45:03to send to Burton Constable,

0:45:03 > 0:45:04and many months later,

0:45:04 > 0:45:08the family received a package in the war from Alfons' mother,

0:45:08 > 0:45:10saying, "I know we're still at war,

0:45:10 > 0:45:11"but I thought you should know

0:45:11 > 0:45:13"that your son died in the arms of a fellow Catholic.

0:45:13 > 0:45:17"My son, too, sadly died a few weeks later,

0:45:17 > 0:45:19"and here is a picture of him,

0:45:19 > 0:45:22"and we'd like you to pray for him as well."

0:45:22 > 0:45:26And so it was a very touching moment of serenity and kindness

0:45:26 > 0:45:29in such a chaotic and cruel world.

0:45:29 > 0:45:31And what this is is a symbol of two men

0:45:31 > 0:45:33who put aside their differences

0:45:33 > 0:45:36and the fact their two countries were trying to kill each other...

0:45:36 > 0:45:39- Yes.- ..and saw the common humanity

0:45:39 > 0:45:41at the most desperate of times.

0:45:41 > 0:45:42Exactly.

0:45:46 > 0:45:47Well, here's a scrap of paper

0:45:47 > 0:45:50which is almost so ephemeral as not to even be there.

0:45:50 > 0:45:52Can I read it?

0:45:52 > 0:45:55- Yes, please do.- "June 12, 1919.

0:45:55 > 0:45:59"My Dear Elsie, just a hurried line before I start.

0:45:59 > 0:46:03"This letter will travel with me in the official mailbag,

0:46:03 > 0:46:06"the first mail to be carried over the Atlantic."

0:46:07 > 0:46:10"Love to all, your loving brother Jack."

0:46:11 > 0:46:14So, Jack - this must be Jack Alcock?

0:46:14 > 0:46:17That's right. He was born John.

0:46:17 > 0:46:20Everybody called him Jack, so he signed his letter Jack.

0:46:21 > 0:46:25Jack Alcock was my grandmother's cousin.

0:46:27 > 0:46:33He was a pilot and there was a competition in the Daily Mail,

0:46:33 > 0:46:39and the prize was £10,000 for the first to cross the Atlantic nonstop.

0:46:39 > 0:46:43He decided to try with Arthur Whitten Brown

0:46:43 > 0:46:46and they flew from Newfoundland

0:46:46 > 0:46:50and crash-landed in a bog in Ireland.

0:46:50 > 0:46:53But...survived.

0:46:53 > 0:46:55And went on to...

0:46:55 > 0:46:58They won the £10,000.

0:46:58 > 0:47:00So these two men, these two brave men,

0:47:00 > 0:47:03- were the first to fly nonstop across the Atlantic?- That's correct.

0:47:03 > 0:47:04St John's, at the top here.

0:47:04 > 0:47:06- Yes.- This is St John's of Newfoundland.

0:47:06 > 0:47:08Yes. Yes.

0:47:08 > 0:47:10And what were they flying in?

0:47:10 > 0:47:11This is in 1919.

0:47:11 > 0:47:15Yes, they were flying in a Vickers Vimy,

0:47:15 > 0:47:19which they'd adapted a little bit for the flight.

0:47:19 > 0:47:21A Vickers Vimy, it's a First World War bomber, essentially.

0:47:21 > 0:47:23A twin-engined bomber

0:47:23 > 0:47:26designed for the offensive against Germany,

0:47:26 > 0:47:30it was able to fly from Britain to Germany,

0:47:30 > 0:47:32hence its range, I suppose.

0:47:32 > 0:47:35But no-one had tested it over the kind of range

0:47:35 > 0:47:37of the North Atlantic,

0:47:37 > 0:47:40so it was an extraordinarily brave feat.

0:47:40 > 0:47:42And Elsie was his sister?

0:47:42 > 0:47:44Elsie was his sister, yes.

0:47:44 > 0:47:46And so what you have here

0:47:46 > 0:47:48is one of the first pieces of paper,

0:47:48 > 0:47:51the first piece of airmail that went across the Atlantic.

0:47:51 > 0:47:53I find that something to conjure with.

0:47:53 > 0:47:57- Yes.- And, of course, there's a tragic coda to it, isn't there?

0:47:57 > 0:48:00- Yes.- Because, despite their bravery,

0:48:00 > 0:48:02and their success flying across the Atlantic,

0:48:02 > 0:48:04really against the odds,

0:48:04 > 0:48:07- later that year... - Yes, in December...

0:48:08 > 0:48:11..he crash-landed in France.

0:48:12 > 0:48:14So before 1919 was out...

0:48:14 > 0:48:16- He was dead. - Jack was no longer with us.

0:48:16 > 0:48:20- That's right.- So this makes this even more moving, I think.

0:48:20 > 0:48:21- Yes.- So...

0:48:22 > 0:48:25I think it's a wonderful scrap of paper.

0:48:25 > 0:48:28I mean, it's almost nothing to look at, but it means so much, I think.

0:48:28 > 0:48:33Of course, there's no postmark on this, there's no envelope,

0:48:33 > 0:48:36and so, in this sense, it's not stamped, it's not official mail.

0:48:36 > 0:48:37It's a personal note.

0:48:38 > 0:48:43So in a sense, its value is more personal than to a postal historian.

0:48:45 > 0:48:49I think I'd be very happy to put a figure of £1,000-£1,200 on it.

0:48:49 > 0:48:51Oh. Wow!

0:48:51 > 0:48:52Wow!

0:48:57 > 0:49:02This is a very elegant bronze statue,

0:49:02 > 0:49:04which I could easily imagine

0:49:04 > 0:49:09in a chic Parisian or New York apartment of about 1960,

0:49:09 > 0:49:14really looking the bee's knees, and a real statement piece.

0:49:14 > 0:49:18So, does it live in your Paris or New York apartment?

0:49:18 > 0:49:20Well, not at the moment, no!

0:49:20 > 0:49:22It lives with us in Hull.

0:49:22 > 0:49:24- In Hull?- In Hull.

0:49:24 > 0:49:26So how did you come by her?

0:49:26 > 0:49:29We've only had her for about three, four months, something like that.

0:49:30 > 0:49:34- OK.- I bought her from a friend.

0:49:34 > 0:49:36She came to us via a third party.

0:49:36 > 0:49:40She'd been sold and we were offered the opportunity of buying her,

0:49:40 > 0:49:42and that's about three or four months ago.

0:49:42 > 0:49:44OK. So you like her.

0:49:44 > 0:49:46Do you have a taste for Art Deco things?

0:49:46 > 0:49:49Very much so. My wife particularly does,

0:49:49 > 0:49:51and she is just beautiful.

0:49:51 > 0:49:52- She is.- She really is.

0:49:52 > 0:49:54And dare I ask, how much did she cost you?

0:49:54 > 0:49:57I own a fish-and-chip shop in Bridlington...

0:49:57 > 0:50:00- Right.- ..where she cost me £200,

0:50:00 > 0:50:02plus ten fish and chips.

0:50:02 > 0:50:04So a few fish suppers as well, thrown in?

0:50:04 > 0:50:06- Yeah.- Right, OK.

0:50:06 > 0:50:08Well, it's not often we get, on the Antiques Roadshow,

0:50:08 > 0:50:11pieces which have been part-exchanged for a fish supper,

0:50:11 > 0:50:13so it'll be a first for me.

0:50:13 > 0:50:15But let's take a closer look at her.

0:50:15 > 0:50:19So, bronze on this limestone base,

0:50:19 > 0:50:21influenced by the work of Barbara Hepworth

0:50:21 > 0:50:24and the other sculptors working in this country

0:50:24 > 0:50:25in the Modernist school.

0:50:25 > 0:50:27And it's a very good piece.

0:50:27 > 0:50:29A dancer, I think we can safely say.

0:50:29 > 0:50:35Very like the Art Deco figures of Dimitri Chiparus.

0:50:35 > 0:50:38I'm thinking some of his figures from the 1930s.

0:50:38 > 0:50:41And it's a classic pose of the period,

0:50:41 > 0:50:44and with real style and real elegance.

0:50:44 > 0:50:46- Where do you have her at home? - We have a turn on the stairs,

0:50:46 > 0:50:48and she is on the window on the turn on the stairs.

0:50:48 > 0:50:51Right, right. I think she's great, fantastic, really elegant piece.

0:50:51 > 0:50:53We do have a signature.

0:50:54 > 0:50:57Let's have a look. Underwood.

0:50:57 > 0:50:59Do you know anything about Underwood?

0:50:59 > 0:51:04Very little. I only know what I've looked up having bought her.

0:51:04 > 0:51:05OK. I'll confess to something now.

0:51:05 > 0:51:08When I first saw this name, Underwood,

0:51:08 > 0:51:10I immediately thought Leon Underwood,

0:51:10 > 0:51:11who is one of the...

0:51:11 > 0:51:14Well, he's reckoned to be one of the founding fathers

0:51:14 > 0:51:16of 20th-century British sculpture.

0:51:16 > 0:51:19It isn't. It's Guy Underwood.

0:51:19 > 0:51:21- Right.- So, if it was Leon Underwood

0:51:21 > 0:51:24we'd be talking many, many, many fish suppers.

0:51:24 > 0:51:27As it is, Guy is still an interesting piece.

0:51:27 > 0:51:31I mean, I think it represents the kind of object that WILL go up,

0:51:31 > 0:51:34simply on its decorative appeal alone, and it has that in spades.

0:51:34 > 0:51:37It's a really, really stylish piece.

0:51:37 > 0:51:39It clearly gives you pleasure.

0:51:39 > 0:51:41- You paid, you say...- It's £200.

0:51:41 > 0:51:44£200, plus a few fish suppers as well.

0:51:44 > 0:51:46I think, actually, at auction,

0:51:46 > 0:51:48in a good decorative-arts sale,

0:51:48 > 0:51:52I think you could see a return on that, perhaps a little bit more,

0:51:52 > 0:51:54- in the current market, £300 to £400.- Yeah.

0:51:54 > 0:51:56I think it's a good solid piece.

0:51:56 > 0:51:59- Lovely.- And well done, you, for the fish and chips!

0:51:59 > 0:52:00Thank you.

0:52:05 > 0:52:10So, absolutely surrounded by Georgian shoe buckles.

0:52:10 > 0:52:11How did you get them?

0:52:11 > 0:52:15Well, my husband, it was his...

0:52:15 > 0:52:17My late husband, it was his collection,

0:52:17 > 0:52:21and he collected them for over 50 years.

0:52:21 > 0:52:23That's marvellous. Because, you know,

0:52:23 > 0:52:27they had shoe buckles in the medieval period,

0:52:27 > 0:52:28but then they went out of fashion,

0:52:28 > 0:52:31and then they came back in the mid-17th century,

0:52:31 > 0:52:35and people like Samuel Pepys wrote about putting buckles on his shoes.

0:52:35 > 0:52:37But, of course, a lot of these

0:52:37 > 0:52:39are from the golden period of shoe buckles,

0:52:39 > 0:52:42from 1762 to 1780.

0:52:42 > 0:52:45And what was your husband's fascination in them?

0:52:45 > 0:52:50I don't really know. I mean, his father had a couple of pairs

0:52:50 > 0:52:53which he gave to my husband.

0:52:53 > 0:52:57And from then on, he just... He just liked them.

0:52:57 > 0:52:58When we went to antique fairs,

0:52:58 > 0:53:00we were always looking for shoe buckles.

0:53:00 > 0:53:04We could go into a quite upmarket antique shop

0:53:04 > 0:53:06and we were probably paying two pounds,

0:53:06 > 0:53:09two pounds ten shillings, something like that,

0:53:09 > 0:53:12for a pair of Georgian shoe buckles.

0:53:12 > 0:53:15- And did it become a little bit of an obsession?- Yes.

0:53:15 > 0:53:17THEY LAUGH

0:53:17 > 0:53:18- Just a bit.- Just a little bit!

0:53:18 > 0:53:21- So, you're here with your family today?- Yes.

0:53:21 > 0:53:23What do you think about your father's collection?

0:53:23 > 0:53:27I think it's amazing that he collected it over so many years.

0:53:27 > 0:53:28He was so proud of it.

0:53:28 > 0:53:32He researched them, he cleaned them,

0:53:32 > 0:53:34he catalogued them.

0:53:34 > 0:53:36He loved showing them to people, loved talking about them.

0:53:36 > 0:53:39- And, yes, there is even more! - THEY LAUGH

0:53:39 > 0:53:42So, how many do we have in the full collection?

0:53:42 > 0:53:44An awful lot.

0:53:44 > 0:53:45Come on, you can tell me.

0:53:46 > 0:53:47I've got about 1,500.

0:53:47 > 0:53:50- 1,500.- 1,500.

0:53:50 > 0:53:54Well, I think we're going back to a little bit of an obsession.

0:53:54 > 0:53:56Yes, it was rather!

0:53:56 > 0:53:59It gives us such a feeling for the Georgian period,

0:53:59 > 0:54:03with these dandies, men with these fabulous shoe buckles on,

0:54:03 > 0:54:05going to houses like this,

0:54:05 > 0:54:10and wearing all these fantastic buckles, with the paste ones,

0:54:10 > 0:54:14and the silver ones, and really very romantic, too.

0:54:14 > 0:54:20Yeah, it's hard to think it was men that wore these, not the women.

0:54:20 > 0:54:23I mean, they had silver ones which they kept for best,

0:54:23 > 0:54:26and they had more of the paste-type ones

0:54:26 > 0:54:29which was more or less an everyday type of buckle.

0:54:29 > 0:54:31Which is quite funny,

0:54:31 > 0:54:33when you look at some of the paste ones and see them,

0:54:33 > 0:54:35- they're quite dramatic, aren't they?- Yeah.

0:54:35 > 0:54:37- They're not understated, are they?- No, no.

0:54:37 > 0:54:41I love these creamware ones.

0:54:41 > 0:54:47I mean, they are absolutely so beautiful, and so impractical.

0:54:47 > 0:54:51Well, this is partially why there aren't that many around,

0:54:51 > 0:54:53because obviously they got broken.

0:54:54 > 0:55:00We did go to Northampton Museum once and saw the curator,

0:55:00 > 0:55:04and at that time she only knew of about five pairs

0:55:04 > 0:55:06of those particular shoe buckles.

0:55:06 > 0:55:08I mean, obviously, as soon as you put them on,

0:55:08 > 0:55:09they would break.

0:55:09 > 0:55:13You can't imagine they would survive one single wearing.

0:55:13 > 0:55:17But, of course, the others are much more practical and beautiful.

0:55:18 > 0:55:22And, well, what do I say about value?

0:55:22 > 0:55:24- Don't know. - THEY LAUGH

0:55:24 > 0:55:27If you just look at them

0:55:27 > 0:55:32and say that, you know, some of the lesser ones,

0:55:32 > 0:55:35maybe £100 the pair.

0:55:35 > 0:55:40Some of the more beautiful ones in these cases,

0:55:40 > 0:55:42maybe £500 to £700 a pair.

0:55:42 > 0:55:45And if you take the creamware ones,

0:55:45 > 0:55:51I would certainly see them very easily fetching £1,000.

0:55:51 > 0:55:55So, if you look at the collection as a whole,

0:55:55 > 0:55:57and it's pretty staggering to me,

0:55:57 > 0:56:00I think we're looking here, with your collection,

0:56:00 > 0:56:02at £200,000.

0:56:02 > 0:56:04Oh, God.

0:56:07 > 0:56:09- Staggering.- Oh, my God.

0:56:09 > 0:56:12Well, we don't really sort of think of that, you know.

0:56:12 > 0:56:16I mean, they're a collection and we are keeping the collection.

0:56:16 > 0:56:21And it will get passed down to my three daughters

0:56:21 > 0:56:25and possibly even further down the line than that.

0:56:25 > 0:56:28But he just loved them. Just absolutely loved them.

0:56:28 > 0:56:32Well, isn't it lovely that you've got this lovely inheritance,

0:56:32 > 0:56:34you've got your daughters and granddaughter -

0:56:34 > 0:56:36you know, it's a lovely family story.

0:56:39 > 0:56:40Yes.

0:56:42 > 0:56:43I should think he would be so proud

0:56:43 > 0:56:46to see his remarkable shoe-buckle collection

0:56:46 > 0:56:48displayed on the Antiques Roadshow.

0:56:48 > 0:56:49Did you know that two of our specialists

0:56:49 > 0:56:51used to collect shoe buckles?

0:56:51 > 0:56:52Philip Mould, our art expert -

0:56:52 > 0:56:55that was his first collection when he was a boy.

0:56:55 > 0:56:57And Ronnie Archer-Morgan, our miscellaneous specialist,

0:56:57 > 0:56:59he still collects them, even today.

0:56:59 > 0:57:02From Burton Constable and the whole Roadshow team,

0:57:02 > 0:57:03and the shoe buckles, bye-bye.