0:00:46 > 0:00:50The Humber Bridge was opened by the Queen back in 1981,
0:00:50 > 0:00:52and it is Britain's longest suspension bridge.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55And look at the view, it dominates the landscape.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58You've got Lincolnshire over on this side.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01Over here, the East Riding of Yorkshire, and just there,
0:01:01 > 0:01:03this year's City of Culture.
0:01:03 > 0:01:08And at this spot we're over 500ft up in the air,
0:01:08 > 0:01:10and I'm feeling a bit nervous.
0:01:10 > 0:01:13Welcome to this week's Antiques Roadshow from Hull.
0:01:16 > 0:01:20Hull was awarded City of Culture 2017.
0:01:20 > 0:01:22It's a £100 million investment
0:01:22 > 0:01:24that will refurbish museums, galleries,
0:01:24 > 0:01:26and fund plenty of festivals.
0:01:26 > 0:01:28New venues have also been built.
0:01:30 > 0:01:33Like this one, called The Dock.
0:01:33 > 0:01:36It's a Grade II-listed former dry dock dating back to 1842.
0:01:36 > 0:01:38It hasn't been used in the last 20 years,
0:01:38 > 0:01:42but now it's been converted into a 350-seat amphitheatre
0:01:42 > 0:01:44for live events and shows.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50Another notable location for this cultural extravaganza
0:01:50 > 0:01:52is the Museum Quarter.
0:01:55 > 0:01:58To get there, you'll find the River Hull in the way,
0:01:58 > 0:02:00but this recently installed swing bridge,
0:02:00 > 0:02:04an ingenious piece of engineering like something off a Star Wars set,
0:02:04 > 0:02:06will transport you to the other side.
0:02:12 > 0:02:16Hull City of Culture 2017 will celebrate its former greats.
0:02:16 > 0:02:19The pilot Amy Johnson, the poet Philip Larkin,
0:02:19 > 0:02:23and the great slave-abolitionist William Wilberforce.
0:02:23 > 0:02:25And Wilberforce's home celebrates another era,
0:02:25 > 0:02:28when Hull's furniture-makers were at the fore.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32They were craftsmen born from the shipbuilding heyday.
0:02:34 > 0:02:38Their celebrated work also inhabits a fine country house nearby -
0:02:38 > 0:02:41our venue for the day, Burton Constable Hall.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44This 16th-century house is crammed with treasures,
0:02:44 > 0:02:46and we're hoping to find many more
0:02:46 > 0:02:50as our experts welcome visitors to today's Antiques Roadshow.
0:02:52 > 0:02:55This is a fantastic oil lamp that you've brought us in
0:02:55 > 0:02:56to take a look at today,
0:02:56 > 0:02:58and I must say, on this show,
0:02:58 > 0:03:00we don't often get a couple of young guys like yourself
0:03:00 > 0:03:03bringing something like this in, so what can you tell me about it?
0:03:03 > 0:03:07How did you come by it, do you collect this type of thing?
0:03:07 > 0:03:08Yeah, we have quite a few antiques
0:03:08 > 0:03:12and we're always on the lookout for bits and pieces.
0:03:12 > 0:03:16And we were visiting a car-boot sale in Doncaster,
0:03:16 > 0:03:18and I saw this from a distance,
0:03:18 > 0:03:22but originally, where the enamelling, sort of, colouring is,
0:03:22 > 0:03:23it was painted white.
0:03:23 > 0:03:28I considered repainting it but I were curious what were underneath,
0:03:28 > 0:03:33so I slowly sort of just washed it off with soap and water.
0:03:33 > 0:03:36That must have been quite a shock when you've gone from white to this?
0:03:36 > 0:03:39- Yeah.- And what did you think of the purchase?
0:03:39 > 0:03:42For many years, a lot of our homes, we used to...
0:03:42 > 0:03:45Everything come from car boots, you know what I mean?
0:03:45 > 0:03:50That's how we furnished our home, and then obviously when...
0:03:50 > 0:03:51- ..This was revealed...- Yeah.
0:03:51 > 0:03:54..you've been back to that car boot every week since, yeah?
0:03:54 > 0:03:58It's French, it's Limoges enamel,
0:03:58 > 0:04:01and Limoges enamel have been around for a very long time,
0:04:01 > 0:04:02way back in the 12th century,
0:04:02 > 0:04:05but this one was made much, much later than that
0:04:05 > 0:04:09and in the 19th century, probably around 1880.
0:04:09 > 0:04:13And it's of a type, I mean, it's high-style Victorian, really,
0:04:13 > 0:04:16you've got these wonderful gilt-metal mounts here,
0:04:16 > 0:04:18and then often we see these panels,
0:04:18 > 0:04:22which were sort of aristocrats or courtiers,
0:04:22 > 0:04:25probably 16th-17th century, something like that.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28And here we can see we've got Marie de Rohan.
0:04:28 > 0:04:32She was also known as the Duchess Chevreuse.
0:04:32 > 0:04:34And then, if I turn it all the way around,
0:04:34 > 0:04:36we can see on the other side,
0:04:36 > 0:04:40opposing side, we've got Louis Maugiron.
0:04:40 > 0:04:41Particularly in the 19th century
0:04:41 > 0:04:44they were looking back on earlier periods,
0:04:44 > 0:04:46you know, the 16th, 17th and indeed the 18th century,
0:04:46 > 0:04:48with a great deal of fondness,
0:04:48 > 0:04:51so decorating it with these type of aristocrats and courtiers
0:04:51 > 0:04:55would have been very much appetite and flavour of the day.
0:04:55 > 0:04:57Would that have been hand-painted?
0:04:57 > 0:05:00Absolutely. Yeah, no, it's absolutely all hand-painted
0:05:00 > 0:05:03on this wonderful sort of turquoise ground.
0:05:03 > 0:05:07Would it have been a one-off or one of a pair, or just...?
0:05:07 > 0:05:09You know, pairs of vases, we think about that,
0:05:09 > 0:05:13but as an oil lamp often they were just, you know, single, so...
0:05:13 > 0:05:17But you will find other examples like this oil lamp.
0:05:17 > 0:05:22We were always curious with the narrow shade, flute,
0:05:22 > 0:05:24because most of them I've seen are quite bulbous
0:05:24 > 0:05:27- and this is very narrow.- It is. Well, it would have had another...
0:05:27 > 0:05:29You see this lovely little lip that we've got there?
0:05:29 > 0:05:32That would have actually sat, so you've got your flute there,
0:05:32 > 0:05:33and then you would have had
0:05:33 > 0:05:35a nice little globular, or bulbous, lamp there.
0:05:35 > 0:05:38Because, of course, that would have been frosted,
0:05:38 > 0:05:40you know, so that the light wasn't so extreme.
0:05:40 > 0:05:43I mean, if you just got this clear one,
0:05:43 > 0:05:45the light would have been burst throughout the room.
0:05:45 > 0:05:48It's a great thing. I think there would be a good appetite for that
0:05:48 > 0:05:49if it came up for auction,
0:05:49 > 0:05:52and I think it would carry a presale estimate
0:05:52 > 0:05:56of between £1,500 and £2,500.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58- Really?- That's brilliant.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00Now you can tell me what you paid at the car boot.
0:06:00 > 0:06:01Well, it were less than £10.
0:06:01 > 0:06:04- Was it really? My God. - LAUGHTER
0:06:04 > 0:06:06So, yeah!
0:06:08 > 0:06:10Now, I gather this little bit of silver
0:06:10 > 0:06:13is the cause of some family controversy, shall we say,
0:06:13 > 0:06:15so perhaps I can help to settle the argument.
0:06:15 > 0:06:19So, without wanting to cause, you know, romantic disharmony,
0:06:19 > 0:06:22perhaps ladies first, perhaps you'd like to tell me
0:06:22 > 0:06:23what your view of it is?
0:06:23 > 0:06:26Well, it's been in my family forever,
0:06:26 > 0:06:28never been out of the family,
0:06:28 > 0:06:31and we think it's a communion cup
0:06:31 > 0:06:34- and it's probably from the 1500s.- Right.
0:06:34 > 0:06:38And so I gather your partner's also been investigating this little cup,
0:06:38 > 0:06:40and so what would be your view?
0:06:40 > 0:06:42I think it's from the 17...
0:06:42 > 0:06:45Around 1775, from Birmingham,
0:06:45 > 0:06:47and it's sterling silver.
0:06:47 > 0:06:49Do you agree with the sterling silver?
0:06:49 > 0:06:51OK, so it's sterling silver.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53I think I agree with the sterling silver,
0:06:53 > 0:06:55so we've got consensus here, sterling silver it is.
0:06:55 > 0:06:58You're both wrong on the date.
0:06:58 > 0:06:59And on the town, unfortunately.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01- Oh!- A beaker?
0:07:01 > 0:07:03- Yes.- For drinking out of?
0:07:03 > 0:07:05- Yeah.- Whatever you like, really,
0:07:05 > 0:07:06it's just a useful domestic object, really.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08I don't think it's got anything to do with church,
0:07:08 > 0:07:12in fact there's no reason to think it's to do with communion.
0:07:12 > 0:07:13There is a set of hallmarks on the bottom,
0:07:13 > 0:07:18which you presumably looked up to get the Birmingham one.
0:07:18 > 0:07:19They are complicated, hallmarks,
0:07:19 > 0:07:23and I can understand exactly why you drew that conclusion.
0:07:23 > 0:07:29This little beaker was made in London, in fact, in 1653.
0:07:29 > 0:07:30HE WHISTLES
0:07:30 > 0:07:33Not quite as old as the 1500s, but pretty old nonetheless.
0:07:33 > 0:07:36- Yeah.- 1500s is very, very rare for silver.
0:07:36 > 0:07:381653 is rare enough.
0:07:38 > 0:07:41So, if we turn it upside down,
0:07:41 > 0:07:43on the bottom here
0:07:43 > 0:07:46we've got a little set of London hallmarks,
0:07:46 > 0:07:49and there's a maker's mark with D and G
0:07:49 > 0:07:51on either side of an anchor.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54Well, as you know now, the Birmingham town mark is an anchor,
0:07:54 > 0:07:57so I can quite understand why you'd thought that.
0:07:57 > 0:08:01It's made by a maker who's name now has been lost to history,
0:08:01 > 0:08:03who made various silver objects,
0:08:03 > 0:08:07including communion cups and church-related silver.
0:08:07 > 0:08:09This he made and marked in 1653,
0:08:09 > 0:08:13which is some, what, 363 years ago?
0:08:13 > 0:08:14Wow.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16Incredible, I mean, and all the damage that it's suffered,
0:08:16 > 0:08:19there are a few dents on the side of it - is it used at home?
0:08:19 > 0:08:22Not really, no. It's just on display all the time, though.
0:08:22 > 0:08:23But it's out on constant display?
0:08:23 > 0:08:27- Yeah.- You never get tempted to take a little drink out of it, no?
0:08:27 > 0:08:28Sometimes, yeah!
0:08:28 > 0:08:29SHE LAUGHS
0:08:29 > 0:08:31You can do, it won't come to any harm. You can use it,
0:08:31 > 0:08:34as long as you don't sort of throw it round the room,
0:08:34 > 0:08:35you're not going to do it any damage.
0:08:35 > 0:08:37It was absolutely made for use.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40Silver from that period's pretty rare.
0:08:40 > 0:08:421500s is sort of virtually unheard of,
0:08:42 > 0:08:45but this is pretty rare stuff.
0:08:45 > 0:08:48It's been around forever, you don't know who bought it,
0:08:48 > 0:08:49- you don't know...?- No.
0:08:49 > 0:08:50It's quite a little cup,
0:08:50 > 0:08:52I mean it's, what, 3oz or 4oz only?
0:08:52 > 0:08:55I think you'd be very lucky to buy that for £3,000.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58Wow.
0:08:58 > 0:09:00She's shocked!
0:09:00 > 0:09:02THEY LAUGH
0:09:02 > 0:09:04- Really?- Yeah, really.
0:09:04 > 0:09:06Gosh. Oh, thank you, that's lovely.
0:09:06 > 0:09:07Not a bit.
0:09:11 > 0:09:15Well, we've got the classical beauty of Burton Constable Hall behind us.
0:09:15 > 0:09:19You've brought me a clock of a similar classical design.
0:09:19 > 0:09:20- Handsome.- Handsome.
0:09:20 > 0:09:25But let me tell you, it's a very, very ordinary, late Victorian clock.
0:09:25 > 0:09:28So, what was it about it that made you buy it?
0:09:28 > 0:09:30Well, the paintings on it.
0:09:30 > 0:09:33I love the whole school of marine painters,
0:09:33 > 0:09:36especially John Ward and Henry Redmore.
0:09:36 > 0:09:39- Yes.- It was in a... I hesitate to say antique shop -
0:09:39 > 0:09:42it was a junk shop or second-hand shop,
0:09:42 > 0:09:46and among all the tat I saw this behind the counter
0:09:46 > 0:09:50and I was immediately drawn to it because of the paintings on it.
0:09:50 > 0:09:53Yeah, and how far back does your interest in Hull and maritime...?
0:09:53 > 0:09:55All my life, all my life.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57I bought this 24 years ago now,
0:09:57 > 0:10:01and when I looked closely I was very excited and pleased
0:10:01 > 0:10:04to see the signature on it, EK Redmore.
0:10:04 > 0:10:06Yeah. Now, it is an artist I know,
0:10:06 > 0:10:08because my grandma lived in Hull for 40-50 years,
0:10:08 > 0:10:12and as a boy I went to the Ferens Art Gallery,
0:10:12 > 0:10:16where they have some super works by Edward King Redmore.
0:10:16 > 0:10:20- Yes.- And, of course, his father, Henry Redmore, was also an artist,
0:10:20 > 0:10:22so there's a tradition in that family
0:10:22 > 0:10:25- and they're very celebrated in these parts.- In Hull especially, yes.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28Shall we have a look a bit closer at the...?
0:10:28 > 0:10:30- Yes, certainly. - Because it's got a full seascape.
0:10:30 > 0:10:32I mean, there's a sailing vessel,
0:10:32 > 0:10:34there's a little steam vessel in the background.
0:10:34 > 0:10:35Precisely, yes, yes.
0:10:35 > 0:10:37And, of course, it's not just the dial that's painted -
0:10:37 > 0:10:41we have, beneath the classical sort of portico,
0:10:41 > 0:10:43two more little vignettes.
0:10:43 > 0:10:44Indeed, yes, yes.
0:10:44 > 0:10:47I'll be honest, I've never seen anything by either of the Redmores
0:10:47 > 0:10:49painted on anything except canvas.
0:10:49 > 0:10:52- Have you not?- So, it makes this, you know, a little bit spicy.
0:10:52 > 0:10:56Yes, well, it's unique, I think it's the only one in the world.
0:10:56 > 0:10:58His work deteriorated a lot in his older days.
0:10:58 > 0:11:01Well, yes, his later work did really deteriorate,
0:11:01 > 0:11:02and I thought he died
0:11:02 > 0:11:05somewhere in the early days of the Second World War.
0:11:05 > 0:11:08Just before, I believe, yes. 1939, I think.
0:11:08 > 0:11:11Yeah, yeah. But, look, what a lovely piece
0:11:11 > 0:11:13that represents one of Hull's great artists
0:11:13 > 0:11:15and, of course, one of Hull's great characters.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18We remember him by his attention to this, you know,
0:11:18 > 0:11:22very ordinary French clock with a very ordinary movement.
0:11:22 > 0:11:25Value - not huge, but I think to a local person,
0:11:25 > 0:11:29in a local auction that's well advertised,
0:11:29 > 0:11:32it's got to be £700, £1,000 worth.
0:11:32 > 0:11:34Yes, thank you very much, yes.
0:11:42 > 0:11:43It's a tradesman's sample.
0:11:43 > 0:11:45- Yes.- It's Victorian.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48- Yes.- And made of mahogany.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51To me, the charming thing about it is it's all original.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54It's got the original little turned feet,
0:11:54 > 0:11:56the original knob handles,
0:11:56 > 0:11:59it even opens up inside.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02Commercially, it's worth about £200-£300.
0:12:04 > 0:12:05Do you know anybody who wants it?
0:12:05 > 0:12:07THEY LAUGH
0:12:12 > 0:12:14Well, it's handmade.
0:12:15 > 0:12:18It's handmade - in part because it IS handmade...
0:12:18 > 0:12:20SHE LAUGHS
0:12:20 > 0:12:21..it also is handmade
0:12:21 > 0:12:24because there's a sticker here that says "handmade"!
0:12:24 > 0:12:28It's one of the advantages of being able to read.
0:12:28 > 0:12:33- And it also says The Great British Bake Off.- Yes.
0:12:33 > 0:12:34Crumbs!
0:12:34 > 0:12:36- Did you win this?- I did.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38- Is that right?- Series five, yes.
0:12:38 > 0:12:41And what did you cook?
0:12:41 > 0:12:43A red windmill, the Moulin Rouge.
0:12:43 > 0:12:46- OK, have you got a bit left of it? - SHE LAUGHS
0:12:46 > 0:12:47Not now, no!
0:12:47 > 0:12:51This is really fabulous, it's a very, very beautiful dress.
0:12:51 > 0:12:53- Thank you.- Is it something that you've worn?
0:12:53 > 0:12:55No, it's not mine, it belongs to my friend,
0:12:55 > 0:12:59but she lives in Greece so I said I'd bring it on her behalf.
0:12:59 > 0:13:01This is textbook 1920s.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04- Beautiful.- It's probably about 1925, to be exact.
0:13:04 > 0:13:08We have bugle beads, metal thread, sequins,
0:13:08 > 0:13:11beautifully arranged and in an amazing condition.
0:13:11 > 0:13:13It has a value.
0:13:13 > 0:13:14How much?
0:13:14 > 0:13:18Well, because of its condition and its wear-ability,
0:13:18 > 0:13:22a dress like this would easily be £800.
0:13:22 > 0:13:27Oh! I told her, I told her it was a really nice dress.
0:13:27 > 0:13:29Oh, how lovely. She'll be so pleased.
0:13:35 > 0:13:38Who is this gentleman in a First World War uniform?
0:13:38 > 0:13:41This is my grandfather, Albert Ruffy.
0:13:41 > 0:13:44In the First World War he was shot a couple of times
0:13:44 > 0:13:46and we've still got the bullets from the First World War.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48- Really?- Yeah.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51Now, when he'd left being a soldier in the First World War,
0:13:51 > 0:13:53what did he do then?
0:13:53 > 0:13:55I'm not quite sure exactly what his trade was,
0:13:55 > 0:13:57but up until when he went into the...
0:13:57 > 0:13:59When we entered into the Second World War,
0:13:59 > 0:14:00he was part of the Customs.
0:14:00 > 0:14:02And as the war ended,
0:14:02 > 0:14:07we started to repatriate some of the German prisoners of war.
0:14:07 > 0:14:10- Yes.- Now, I understand he was involved with that.
0:14:10 > 0:14:12He was. As the Customs were dealing with the Germans
0:14:12 > 0:14:15going from the prisoner-of-war camps back to Germany,
0:14:15 > 0:14:17they had to go through a period
0:14:17 > 0:14:20where all of their belongings were taken from them,
0:14:20 > 0:14:23they weren't allowed to take anything back to Germany with them,
0:14:23 > 0:14:27and everything was destroyed before they left the country, hence...
0:14:27 > 0:14:29- These two.- Yes.
0:14:29 > 0:14:32Now, these are two diaries that he was given by a German as he was...?
0:14:32 > 0:14:35Yeah, he spoke a little bit of German himself,
0:14:35 > 0:14:39and the story goes that the German, who we think was called Erich,
0:14:39 > 0:14:41there's reference to him in the books,
0:14:41 > 0:14:45but gave them to him and asked him if he would keep them safe
0:14:45 > 0:14:48because, to him, they were valuable and he didn't want them destroyed.
0:14:48 > 0:14:51Those soldiers that we see from the newsreels,
0:14:51 > 0:14:57in certain...pieces of film, are Nazis.
0:14:57 > 0:14:59They really are,
0:14:59 > 0:15:03and they had been brought up from very small children
0:15:03 > 0:15:06to believe in this idealistic world
0:15:06 > 0:15:10that their Fuhrer, their leader, Adolf Hitler,
0:15:10 > 0:15:11had made for them.
0:15:12 > 0:15:18The owner of your diary was a member of the SS, the Schutzstaffel.
0:15:18 > 0:15:19- OK.- The lightning squad.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23Those...feared troops.
0:15:25 > 0:15:27And he was very proud of the fact
0:15:27 > 0:15:30that he was part of this unit,
0:15:30 > 0:15:31and that's not something
0:15:31 > 0:15:35that we necessarily feel very comfortable with today,
0:15:35 > 0:15:37- all those years afterwards.- Yeah.
0:15:37 > 0:15:42And there are some images in here that people may find offensive,
0:15:42 > 0:15:44but they are definitely part of history.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46- Yeah.- The little diary that we have open,
0:15:46 > 0:15:51they have used an eagle from their coat
0:15:51 > 0:15:53as a template.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55Ah, right.
0:15:55 > 0:15:58It's commemorating, first of all, Hitler's birthday,
0:15:58 > 0:16:02and then the fact that, in 1945, he had died.
0:16:02 > 0:16:05- Yeah.- But they're saying is
0:16:05 > 0:16:10that their honour is commanding still their loyalty,
0:16:10 > 0:16:12which is the motto of the SS.
0:16:12 > 0:16:13Mm.
0:16:13 > 0:16:16And in this one, another...
0:16:18 > 0:16:20..eulogy, I suppose.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22It's crafted from a stamp, actually.
0:16:22 > 0:16:24That's how they've made this.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26We did wonder how that part had come about.
0:16:26 > 0:16:28They've cut it out of two stamps,
0:16:28 > 0:16:30and I think probably a piece of headed paper.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32The diaries are written in German.
0:16:32 > 0:16:34- They are, yes.- And some of it in Gothic German,
0:16:34 > 0:16:35which is very difficult to read.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37- Yes.- Have you had them translated?
0:16:37 > 0:16:41We've had the majority of this one translated,
0:16:41 > 0:16:43and part of it is quite moving
0:16:43 > 0:16:45because they touch on comradeship
0:16:45 > 0:16:49and the fact that they're, whatever they're in, it's together.
0:16:49 > 0:16:52And then a lot of it is more, as you've said,
0:16:52 > 0:16:57to do with the actual war itself and what's going on at the time.
0:16:58 > 0:17:00Not destroyed by your grandad,
0:17:00 > 0:17:02which I think was the order.
0:17:02 > 0:17:05Yeah. I think the reason that he kept them as well
0:17:05 > 0:17:07was because he was very interested in artistry.
0:17:07 > 0:17:11There are some fantastic drawings in here. I mean, really good drawings.
0:17:11 > 0:17:14I've had a think about what this would be on the open market,
0:17:14 > 0:17:17and it's a very difficult thing to put a price on.
0:17:17 > 0:17:19But I certainly think you'd have to be looking at
0:17:19 > 0:17:22somewhere between £400 and £600 for the pair of diaries,
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- I think that would be somewhere in that region.- Yeah.
0:17:25 > 0:17:28- Thank you for bringing them in and showing us.- No problem.
0:17:28 > 0:17:30And thank you for having the courage, I suppose.
0:17:30 > 0:17:32I'm pleased you found them interesting.
0:17:32 > 0:17:34- Thank you so much.- OK, thank you.
0:17:37 > 0:17:39Well, we couldn't come to Hull
0:17:39 > 0:17:42without finding a piece of whaling history, obviously,
0:17:42 > 0:17:45and you have brought me probably the best piece of scrimshaw
0:17:45 > 0:17:47that I've seen for a very, very long time.
0:17:47 > 0:17:49How did you come to have it?
0:17:49 > 0:17:52I came across it at an auction online.
0:17:52 > 0:17:55I'm interested in the history of Hull
0:17:55 > 0:17:59and any artefacts that can help to tell the history,
0:17:59 > 0:18:00and I managed to obtain it.
0:18:00 > 0:18:03Basically, what it is, it's a vesta case,
0:18:03 > 0:18:04so it's a little match case
0:18:04 > 0:18:06made out of a sperm-whale tooth.
0:18:06 > 0:18:09And the top, I'm pretty sure, is made of baleen,
0:18:09 > 0:18:12and then it's inset with a little piece of shagreen,
0:18:12 > 0:18:13which is sharkskin,
0:18:13 > 0:18:17which obviously, being very rough, you can strike the matches on.
0:18:17 > 0:18:20But what is really nice about this is it's actually inscribed
0:18:20 > 0:18:22with the name of the whaling ship.
0:18:22 > 0:18:26We have the date, 1852,
0:18:26 > 0:18:31and also the gentleman himself who inscribed it, J Penn.
0:18:31 > 0:18:33It's actually quite nicely engraved,
0:18:33 > 0:18:35and we've got a lighthouse on one side
0:18:35 > 0:18:39and then we have an almost scantily clad lady there,
0:18:39 > 0:18:41almost in Regency dress.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43Even though this was engraved in the 1850s,
0:18:43 > 0:18:47she's almost wearing a dress that could be from the 1820s, 1830s.
0:18:47 > 0:18:50And then on the other side we have a lovely little mermaid,
0:18:50 > 0:18:54and then a little vase of flowers on the other side.
0:18:54 > 0:18:57Obviously it's got the name of the whaling ship on the top of it,
0:18:57 > 0:19:00Truelove. Did you know anything about the ship at all?
0:19:00 > 0:19:03Yes, I was familiar with the ship the Truelove.
0:19:03 > 0:19:07The Hull Maritime Museum have the original flag from the ship
0:19:07 > 0:19:10and there's quite a lot of history known in the area
0:19:10 > 0:19:12about the Truelove being
0:19:12 > 0:19:15an ex-American ship of the Independence wars,
0:19:15 > 0:19:18and that the British liberated off the Americans,
0:19:18 > 0:19:23and then I understand it was converted to a whaler.
0:19:23 > 0:19:24It's a lovely piece.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26Of course, the thing is with scrimshaw
0:19:26 > 0:19:28is that we do see so many fakes of them,
0:19:28 > 0:19:31but this one is absolutely correct in every way.
0:19:31 > 0:19:33I think it's a lovely thing.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36It's doubly interesting that obviously it's local history,
0:19:36 > 0:19:38also the fact it's a match-holder.
0:19:38 > 0:19:40Can I ask how much you actually paid for it at auction?
0:19:40 > 0:19:43Yes, I paid around £400 for it at the auction,
0:19:43 > 0:19:46but it wasn't catalogued up very well.
0:19:46 > 0:19:49The auctioneers didn't do a very good job, I don't think,
0:19:49 > 0:19:51of cataloguing it up rightly, so...
0:19:51 > 0:19:53Well, I think that must have been your game,
0:19:53 > 0:19:56because at £400 you did extremely well.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58You know, it's a really nice example,
0:19:58 > 0:20:00it's quite a rare thing, being a vesta case.
0:20:00 > 0:20:03It's beautifully engraved, the mermaid on it,
0:20:03 > 0:20:06local history, you know, it's got everything going for it.
0:20:06 > 0:20:08If it were to come up for auction locally
0:20:08 > 0:20:11I would have no hesitation
0:20:11 > 0:20:14in seeing it selling for around £2,000-£2,500.
0:20:14 > 0:20:16That's very nice, very good.
0:20:17 > 0:20:21- It's a really nice piece. - Very nice. Thank you for that.
0:20:24 > 0:20:29So, we've got a lovely collection of letters by Florence Nightingale,
0:20:29 > 0:20:33the great Crimean heroine, pioneer of nursing,
0:20:33 > 0:20:35to Henry Power.
0:20:35 > 0:20:36Tell me about them.
0:20:36 > 0:20:40Yes, well Henry Power was my great-grandfather.
0:20:40 > 0:20:41He was an eye surgeon.
0:20:41 > 0:20:45He practised at St Thomas's Hospital in London.
0:20:45 > 0:20:47And he met Florence Nightingale there,
0:20:47 > 0:20:50because she set up her nursing school
0:20:50 > 0:20:52in 1860 in St Thomas's Hospital.
0:20:52 > 0:20:55- Yes.- And he became her eye surgeon?
0:20:55 > 0:20:57- Yes.- She had trouble with her eyes?
0:20:57 > 0:21:00Yes, they were fading towards her later life.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03So, we start off with a letter like this which is written in pencil,
0:21:03 > 0:21:07and it's Henry Power, here it is, it's dated 1897.
0:21:07 > 0:21:11She died quite early on in the new century.
0:21:11 > 0:21:13She says, "My dear Sir,
0:21:13 > 0:21:15"I do not know whether you are in town
0:21:15 > 0:21:17"or likely to be in town tomorrow, Monday.
0:21:17 > 0:21:20"But if you are in town,
0:21:20 > 0:21:23"could you kindly come and see me?
0:21:23 > 0:21:25"My eyes are very bad.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28"The best time for me would be 5:30pm but, of course,
0:21:28 > 0:21:30"your time must be my time.
0:21:30 > 0:21:33"Yours faithfully, Florence Nightingale."
0:21:33 > 0:21:36And so she writes this from, I suppose, her bed,
0:21:36 > 0:21:39or on a sofa at very best.
0:21:39 > 0:21:40- Yes.- Because this is 1897,
0:21:40 > 0:21:45and if we look at an earlier letter that she wrote here, which is 1887,
0:21:45 > 0:21:49to "My Dear Sir," again about her eyes,
0:21:49 > 0:21:53the handwriting, which is in pen, is absolutely copperplate
0:21:53 > 0:21:55- and very, very clear.- Yes.
0:21:55 > 0:21:58And so she had bad eyesight throughout her life,
0:21:58 > 0:22:01I suppose, and towards the end of her life
0:22:01 > 0:22:03she had to see a lot with him.
0:22:03 > 0:22:06So, these cover really, what, the last 20 years of her life?
0:22:06 > 0:22:07- I should think so.- Really?
0:22:07 > 0:22:11She was getting on and her eyes were becoming more and more troublesome.
0:22:11 > 0:22:13But it is a wonderful collection,
0:22:13 > 0:22:16- and very nice to see her character coming through.- Yes.
0:22:16 > 0:22:18Just before she set up at St Thomas',
0:22:18 > 0:22:22she wrote her famous book - Florence Nightingale wrote
0:22:22 > 0:22:24- Nursing: - What It Is and What It Is Not.- Yes.
0:22:24 > 0:22:26Which I think is absolutely tremendous.
0:22:26 > 0:22:30"What It Is Not", and I think that was what she was very worried about,
0:22:30 > 0:22:32that it was very much a casual affair
0:22:32 > 0:22:36and not the more formal affair and the more sterile affair
0:22:36 > 0:22:38that we have come to know her for.
0:22:38 > 0:22:40So, you've got eight letters here.
0:22:40 > 0:22:42- Yes.- We have to value them.
0:22:42 > 0:22:44Right.
0:22:44 > 0:22:49Florence Nightingale is very desirable, autographically.
0:22:49 > 0:22:52From a feminist point of view, she is very desirable.
0:22:52 > 0:22:56From a nursing point of view, again, terribly desirable.
0:22:56 > 0:23:01You would never get a Florence Nightingale letter for under £500.
0:23:01 > 0:23:02Right.
0:23:02 > 0:23:04Some of these are very good letters.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07They mention all sorts of things, but they're mostly about eyes.
0:23:07 > 0:23:10Unfortunately they're not about the Crimea,
0:23:10 > 0:23:12in which case we'd be talking about thousands.
0:23:12 > 0:23:15So, you have eight letters,
0:23:15 > 0:23:18so, conservatively, we could say £4,000.
0:23:20 > 0:23:22That's good for a lot of paper, isn't it?
0:23:22 > 0:23:24HE LAUGHS
0:23:26 > 0:23:31Well, you've brought along a small, rectangular, satin-lidded box,
0:23:31 > 0:23:33and it's a small box,
0:23:33 > 0:23:36but it doesn't half pack a mighty punch
0:23:36 > 0:23:38when you open up the lid, doesn't it?
0:23:38 > 0:23:43Because, inside, you have this extraordinary-looking brooch.
0:23:43 > 0:23:47Is it a butterfly or is it a moth?
0:23:47 > 0:23:50Well, in my opinion, that is a very fine moth.
0:23:50 > 0:23:53It is. Why? Because it's got those outstretched wings
0:23:53 > 0:23:55- and the fat, bulbous body.- For sure.
0:23:55 > 0:23:58Very slimline wings.
0:23:58 > 0:24:02It was made in around about the end of the 19th century,
0:24:02 > 0:24:04so sort of circa 1900,
0:24:04 > 0:24:06but what do you know about it?
0:24:06 > 0:24:09It was a gift from my mother-in-law
0:24:09 > 0:24:11when we got married in 1983.
0:24:12 > 0:24:16So she presented me with the very fine blue box and said,
0:24:16 > 0:24:18"This is for you."
0:24:18 > 0:24:21It was hers before, so I was a very grateful recipient.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24- I should think you were. - Do you wear it?
0:24:24 > 0:24:26- No.- It sits there...
0:24:26 > 0:24:28It sits in my dressing table in a drawer.
0:24:28 > 0:24:31This poor butterfly/moth in a drawer.
0:24:31 > 0:24:33It's being kept in the dark, yes.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36- So, you don't know what it's made of?- No. I don't.
0:24:36 > 0:24:41It could be glass, marcasite, because they usually were.
0:24:41 > 0:24:45- Right.- Well, it's not glass or marcasite, it's diamonds.
0:24:45 > 0:24:49- Wow!- So, it's pave-set with diamonds,
0:24:49 > 0:24:52old Victorian-cut diamonds,
0:24:52 > 0:24:55smothering the surface of the wings.
0:24:55 > 0:24:59- Wow.- So, if I may just take it out of the box,
0:24:59 > 0:25:01see what we've got.
0:25:01 > 0:25:03The outstretched wings, I think,
0:25:03 > 0:25:05show you the size of the thing.
0:25:05 > 0:25:08When you turn it over, you notice that at the back
0:25:08 > 0:25:11it's set in gold and silver,
0:25:11 > 0:25:14and you've noticed that the brooch pin itself
0:25:14 > 0:25:18has got this little what I call actually a butterfly fitting
0:25:18 > 0:25:20at the back.
0:25:20 > 0:25:25- It's a little fitting that you can unscrew the brooch pin.- Golly.
0:25:25 > 0:25:27And the reason that that would have been done,
0:25:27 > 0:25:29in around about 1900,
0:25:29 > 0:25:32was that there would usually have been
0:25:32 > 0:25:34a double-prong fitting at the back
0:25:34 > 0:25:38to convert it to be worn at the back of your bun.
0:25:38 > 0:25:41- Gosh!- Do you notice the little rubies?
0:25:41 > 0:25:44- Yes, the eyes. - The eyes set with ruby cabochons.
0:25:44 > 0:25:46- Right.- Nice touch.- Very good.
0:25:46 > 0:25:48- Nice touch.- Yes, absolutely.
0:25:48 > 0:25:53So, it's a very, very good example of late Victorian naturalism,
0:25:53 > 0:25:56but it's set with very good-quality diamonds.
0:25:56 > 0:25:57Right.
0:25:57 > 0:26:00Let's move on to its potential value.
0:26:00 > 0:26:03So, from your point of view, no idea?
0:26:03 > 0:26:04No idea at all.
0:26:04 > 0:26:08Now, the issue of what it is is important,
0:26:08 > 0:26:12because if it's perceived as a moth it's one value,
0:26:12 > 0:26:16and if it's perceived as a butterfly it's another value.
0:26:16 > 0:26:18You're pulling my leg?
0:26:18 > 0:26:20Why should that be? No, no, no!
0:26:20 > 0:26:25Because why? We all love butterflies but we don't like moths, do we?
0:26:25 > 0:26:27We get rid of moths in our bedroom at night-time,
0:26:27 > 0:26:30but butterflies we welcome during the daytime,
0:26:30 > 0:26:33and that impacts upon the value, too.
0:26:33 > 0:26:35- Right.- So, I'm going to give you two values.
0:26:35 > 0:26:38- OK.- Moth and butterfly.
0:26:39 > 0:26:42If it's a moth, £7,000.
0:26:44 > 0:26:46God! That's gobsmacking, isn't it?
0:26:46 > 0:26:51If someone thinks that's the most beautiful butterfly in the world...
0:26:51 > 0:26:53- Yes?- ..£9,000 to £10,000.
0:26:53 > 0:26:54Wow!
0:26:54 > 0:26:58Well, to me, it was just a very pretty, pretty piece of jewellery.
0:26:58 > 0:27:00I had no idea.
0:27:00 > 0:27:04I believe your mother-in-law knew exactly what she was doing
0:27:04 > 0:27:05when she gave it to you.
0:27:05 > 0:27:08- She wasn't stupid, I must say. - Then she was hoping that one day
0:27:08 > 0:27:11you'd bring it along to the Antiques Roadshow
0:27:11 > 0:27:13to show it to one of us
0:27:13 > 0:27:15so we could tell you exactly what it was.
0:27:15 > 0:27:20But I can tell you, as someone who loves butterflies or moths
0:27:20 > 0:27:21as much as I do,
0:27:21 > 0:27:25that's a serious piece of diamond jewellery.
0:27:25 > 0:27:26- Great!- So, well done.
0:27:26 > 0:27:28Thanks for saying that. That's terrific.
0:27:28 > 0:27:32I shall think of my mother-in-law a lot now with great affection.
0:27:32 > 0:27:34- Thank you very much.- Thank you, OK.
0:27:37 > 0:27:39Do you know, I can safely say this is the first time
0:27:39 > 0:27:41I've ever filmed a saddle on the Antiques Roadshow.
0:27:41 > 0:27:46What's more, it's interesting that it should be an American saddle.
0:27:46 > 0:27:47Now, this is a saddle that, of course,
0:27:47 > 0:27:51everyone who's watching will immediately associate with cowboys.
0:27:51 > 0:27:55- That's right.- You don't look like a Western re-enactor to me.
0:27:55 > 0:27:59So, firstly, explain how you come to own this.
0:27:59 > 0:28:03Well, it's always been in the family
0:28:03 > 0:28:06since probably the 1970s.
0:28:06 > 0:28:08My father was a jockey.
0:28:08 > 0:28:10- Right.- He was always into horses.
0:28:10 > 0:28:14We had a riding stable, and I think one day
0:28:14 > 0:28:17he just went out to the local tack shop
0:28:17 > 0:28:20and got one, or got it shipped in from America,
0:28:20 > 0:28:22and he just came home with it.
0:28:22 > 0:28:25It's always been in our family since then.
0:28:25 > 0:28:27It's never been used, apart from once.
0:28:27 > 0:28:30So, what was the one occasion, then, that you tried the saddle?
0:28:30 > 0:28:34Well, funnily enough, I took my pony back home
0:28:34 > 0:28:36and we tried it out on the pony,
0:28:36 > 0:28:40cos it's been there stuck in the hallway for years
0:28:40 > 0:28:42and we decided to put it on there.
0:28:42 > 0:28:43It's the only time it's been on my pony.
0:28:43 > 0:28:46That's really good. How old are you in that photograph?
0:28:46 > 0:28:48- I'm only 14.- 14 years old?
0:28:48 > 0:28:50- Yes.- That's wonderful. If you look at the size of the saddle,
0:28:50 > 0:28:52it's a big saddle for a small pony
0:28:52 > 0:28:55because, of course, this is really a range saddle,
0:28:55 > 0:28:57made for a much bigger horse.
0:28:57 > 0:28:59In fact, there's a great deal of tradition
0:28:59 > 0:29:01imbued in the history of this saddle,
0:29:01 > 0:29:03and it takes us back a long time,
0:29:03 > 0:29:06really as far as the Moors and Spain, basically,
0:29:06 > 0:29:11because this saddle is made for a very particular purpose.
0:29:11 > 0:29:14Now, there are very many different types of American saddle,
0:29:14 > 0:29:17apart from that kind of cowboy image that we have of them.
0:29:17 > 0:29:23This saddle, really, is made for one very specific purpose - comfort.
0:29:23 > 0:29:26This type of saddle is for sitting in for a long time,
0:29:26 > 0:29:30big stirrups, and primarily for dealing with cattle.
0:29:30 > 0:29:33Now, it's beautifully decorated, isn't it?
0:29:33 > 0:29:36- Yes, absolutely. - It's tooled all over,
0:29:36 > 0:29:39and often people call these saddles "show saddles"
0:29:39 > 0:29:42because they look so spectacular.
0:29:42 > 0:29:46In fact, actually, I suspect that many people in America
0:29:46 > 0:29:47that sit on saddles like this
0:29:47 > 0:29:50never really utilise all the historical aspects of them.
0:29:50 > 0:29:53I suspect most people never use a lasso...
0:29:53 > 0:29:54THEY LAUGH
0:29:54 > 0:29:57..and never use the pommel or the horn.
0:29:57 > 0:30:01So in fact what has happened is that this feature of an American saddle
0:30:01 > 0:30:04- has kind of just always stayed there, really.- Yes.
0:30:04 > 0:30:08Now, when your father purchased this in the '60s or '70s,
0:30:08 > 0:30:11I imagine it would have cost him quite a lot of money.
0:30:11 > 0:30:12Did he ever make reference to that?
0:30:12 > 0:30:15No, never. I don't think so.
0:30:15 > 0:30:18My mother never found out how much it did actually cost!
0:30:18 > 0:30:19THEY LAUGH
0:30:19 > 0:30:22I think he just turned up one day with it.
0:30:22 > 0:30:24She was probably quite surprised.
0:30:24 > 0:30:25- Yes.- I think in that period,
0:30:25 > 0:30:29there probably weren't so many American saddles in the UK.
0:30:29 > 0:30:33Now, if you were to go and buy a saddle like this from Big Horn,
0:30:33 > 0:30:35who are still in business,
0:30:35 > 0:30:37they still make saddles...
0:30:37 > 0:30:41This has kind of got a little bit of a vintage connection.
0:30:41 > 0:30:44It's also got an emotive connection to your father.
0:30:44 > 0:30:46Yes. He passed away, didn't he?
0:30:46 > 0:30:48Yes, he did, when I was ten years old.
0:30:48 > 0:30:50Ten years old? A long time ago.
0:30:50 > 0:30:53So this saddle is a connection to him, isn't it?
0:30:53 > 0:30:56Certainly, if you had to go and buy a saddle like this,
0:30:56 > 0:30:59I could see it costing you £700 to £1,000 to buy.
0:31:00 > 0:31:02It really is a very beautiful thing,
0:31:02 > 0:31:04but it's beautiful to you in many ways
0:31:04 > 0:31:06and you're obviously never going to sell it
0:31:06 > 0:31:08and it's going to carry on standing in your hallway...
0:31:08 > 0:31:11- Absolutely.- ..as a great reminder of your father.
0:31:11 > 0:31:14- Thanks ever so much for bringing it in.- Thank you.
0:31:18 > 0:31:20It's not often on the Antiques Roadshow
0:31:20 > 0:31:23we feature stories about a shark attack, and what's more,
0:31:23 > 0:31:25a man fighting off a shark attack.
0:31:25 > 0:31:28- But this is what happened to your uncle?- Yes.
0:31:28 > 0:31:31He was a ship's cook on trawlers.
0:31:31 > 0:31:33How long ago are we talking about?
0:31:33 > 0:31:35This is 1934.
0:31:35 > 0:31:37Your uncle, Noel Kinch, was he a local man?
0:31:37 > 0:31:40He was from Grimsby. He'd sailed from Grimsby port.
0:31:40 > 0:31:44I believe it was 1936 when he was awarded this medal.
0:31:44 > 0:31:46- This medal here?- Yeah.
0:31:46 > 0:31:49They were fishing and the boatswain got washed overboard.
0:31:49 > 0:31:52He injured his back when going over the railings,
0:31:52 > 0:31:56and my uncle kicked off his wellies and jumped over the side.
0:31:56 > 0:32:00Went into the water and, when he got to the boatswain,
0:32:00 > 0:32:03the boatswain had been attacked by a shark,
0:32:03 > 0:32:05and he'd been bitten on the arm,
0:32:05 > 0:32:08and the shark came back and attacked again
0:32:08 > 0:32:11and my uncle got bitten in the back but he fought the shark off.
0:32:11 > 0:32:14They were in the sea for 40 minutes.
0:32:14 > 0:32:15So he fought off a shark...
0:32:15 > 0:32:18- Yeah.- ..saved his crew mate and lived to tell the tale?
0:32:18 > 0:32:21- Yes.- And he was then awarded this medal for bravery?
0:32:21 > 0:32:23- Yes.- What an extraordinary man!
0:32:23 > 0:32:26Yes. He never told anyone.
0:32:26 > 0:32:28We never knew anything about it in the family.
0:32:28 > 0:32:31It came to light when my younger sister
0:32:31 > 0:32:33started doing the family tree.
0:32:33 > 0:32:34This is a press report?
0:32:34 > 0:32:35Yes.
0:32:36 > 0:32:38"Fisherman decorated."
0:32:39 > 0:32:42"Congratulations of the Duke of Gloucester.
0:32:42 > 0:32:44"Fought shark to save shipmate."
0:32:46 > 0:32:49This sounds like something out of a Boy's Own Annual.
0:32:49 > 0:32:51Yes, it's quite a story.
0:32:51 > 0:32:54"Bond begged him to leave him as he was finished
0:32:54 > 0:32:57"and try himself to get back to the ship."
0:32:57 > 0:32:59But your uncle "kept hold of him
0:32:59 > 0:33:01"and swam until the skipper manoeuvred the Northern Pride
0:33:01 > 0:33:03"towards them."
0:33:03 > 0:33:04So that took 40 minutes?
0:33:04 > 0:33:06- Yes.- Wow!
0:33:07 > 0:33:10How extraordinary!
0:33:10 > 0:33:12Being a ship's cook, I don't think he liked his own food,
0:33:12 > 0:33:14he was trying to get off!
0:33:14 > 0:33:16He just wanted to come up for some fresh air!
0:33:16 > 0:33:19- Yeah.- How remarkable!
0:33:19 > 0:33:21This medal has been passed down the family?
0:33:21 > 0:33:24No, it was sold by my uncle.
0:33:24 > 0:33:28My sister, when she was doing the research on this, she found it.
0:33:28 > 0:33:30It had been auctioned,
0:33:30 > 0:33:33and she contacted the dealer who'd bought it
0:33:33 > 0:33:35and she bought it back off him.
0:33:35 > 0:33:37Why did your uncle sell it?
0:33:37 > 0:33:39I've no idea. I don't know why.
0:33:39 > 0:33:43He probably needed money at the time, yeah.
0:33:43 > 0:33:46- Well, thank you for sharing the story.- It's all right, yeah.
0:33:46 > 0:33:50- That's one I will remember for a long time.- Yeah.
0:33:50 > 0:33:54As far as the medal goes, I think Jon Baddeley is your man,
0:33:54 > 0:33:59but clearly, in terms of his story, and his contribution,
0:33:59 > 0:34:03- you can't put a value on that, can you?- No, no, you can't.
0:34:06 > 0:34:08Here we have two guns,
0:34:08 > 0:34:13both serving a similar purpose, self-defence.
0:34:13 > 0:34:15That is the French idea
0:34:15 > 0:34:17of a self-defence pistol.
0:34:17 > 0:34:215mm pin-fire with all the stopping power of a wet tissue!
0:34:22 > 0:34:24This, on the other hand,
0:34:24 > 0:34:27is the English idea of a self-defence pistol.
0:34:29 > 0:34:30Double-action.
0:34:31 > 0:34:34Six-shot, and if you don't get him with the first six,
0:34:34 > 0:34:37you can deploy a spring bayonet on him.
0:34:38 > 0:34:44How come you've got such contrasting pistols?
0:34:44 > 0:34:49I've always had an interest in the history of firearms
0:34:49 > 0:34:51and I bought these two some years ago.
0:34:51 > 0:34:53I had some others.
0:34:53 > 0:34:54I bought them because
0:34:54 > 0:34:59they show the characteristics you're mentioning there.
0:34:59 > 0:35:04That is a really well-built English so-called transitional revolver.
0:35:04 > 0:35:10This one was the type of thing which a gentleman would slip in his pocket
0:35:10 > 0:35:13in La Place Pigalle, I suppose.
0:35:13 > 0:35:15It's a cigar case, basically,
0:35:15 > 0:35:19but when the gentleman opened it to get out a cigar,
0:35:19 > 0:35:21there we have a revolver.
0:35:21 > 0:35:25So, they're both of a similar period, 1850s, 1860s.
0:35:27 > 0:35:30No maker on that one, it's just a French pistol.
0:35:30 > 0:35:33That's a local maker, Balchin, I think it is?
0:35:33 > 0:35:34Edmund Balchin, yes.
0:35:34 > 0:35:36Edmund Balchin, from Hull.
0:35:38 > 0:35:39To give you an idea of the thing,
0:35:39 > 0:35:42he made those, but he also made harpoon guns as well.
0:35:42 > 0:35:43You can see the sort of thing.
0:35:43 > 0:35:46I'm going to make this a real stopper.
0:35:46 > 0:35:48What did you pay for the little French one?
0:35:48 > 0:35:50I think it was around about £300
0:35:50 > 0:35:52about 10 or 11 years ago.
0:35:52 > 0:35:54The contrast between the two...
0:35:54 > 0:35:57I mean, that is archetypally French.
0:35:57 > 0:35:59It's so elegant, and I think you'd also find
0:35:59 > 0:36:03some of the more interesting French ladies would be using that as well.
0:36:03 > 0:36:05- Indeed.- That, no.
0:36:05 > 0:36:09No other race in the world could make anything like that.
0:36:09 > 0:36:11It's just... Let's just have another look at it.
0:36:13 > 0:36:16The size of the ball, that's half-inch,
0:36:16 > 0:36:20that's going to ruin your day at 20 yards.
0:36:20 > 0:36:22- Yes.- It'll ruin your day six times.
0:36:23 > 0:36:27It's beautifully engraved, open-scroll,
0:36:27 > 0:36:29wonderful chequering.
0:36:29 > 0:36:32That is chequered by hand.
0:36:32 > 0:36:34It's perfect.
0:36:34 > 0:36:36It's absolutely superb.
0:36:37 > 0:36:42Steel furniture, none of your fancy nonsense on this!
0:36:42 > 0:36:44It's just a wonderful...
0:36:44 > 0:36:46And it's in glorious condition.
0:36:46 > 0:36:48Now, values.
0:36:48 > 0:36:51Do the French one first.
0:36:51 > 0:36:52People like little -
0:36:52 > 0:36:57and that's elegant and little and it's in a lovely case.
0:36:57 > 0:36:59At auction...
0:37:00 > 0:37:02£450?
0:37:02 > 0:37:04- Perhaps five.- That's fine.
0:37:05 > 0:37:10This - I could see that making £1,000.
0:37:11 > 0:37:13It's such a nice thing.
0:37:13 > 0:37:16If I had £1,000, I'd be trying to buy it.
0:37:16 > 0:37:18I think they're just wonderful.
0:37:18 > 0:37:20Well, I am going to sell it in a few weeks' time.
0:37:20 > 0:37:22Oh, don't tempt me, don't tempt me!
0:37:24 > 0:37:27I never would have expected to see
0:37:27 > 0:37:29a beautiful Maori fish-hook here in Hull.
0:37:29 > 0:37:33I mean, how did you happen to bring that here?
0:37:33 > 0:37:36Well, we see the Antiques Roadshow in New Zealand,
0:37:36 > 0:37:39and when we were coming to England
0:37:39 > 0:37:42we researched the various sites that you had,
0:37:42 > 0:37:45and as this one is in Burton Constable at Holderness -
0:37:45 > 0:37:48our surname is Holderness, we had to come.
0:37:48 > 0:37:51Well, there are fish-hooks and there are fish-hooks.
0:37:51 > 0:37:53You know this is a fish-hook, don't you?
0:37:53 > 0:37:55- Yes, I do.- And you know where it's from, don't you?
0:37:55 > 0:37:57It's from New Zealand.
0:37:57 > 0:38:03Yes, it's a Maori fish-hook, called a pa kahawai.
0:38:03 > 0:38:05- Is that right?- Yes, pa kahawai.
0:38:05 > 0:38:08That's right, yeah. And it's a type of matau,
0:38:08 > 0:38:13which is a general name for Maori fish-hooks.
0:38:13 > 0:38:15It's a nice one.
0:38:15 > 0:38:18Is it something that you've inherited, something you found?
0:38:18 > 0:38:22Well, our grandfather used to go fishing from Wellington Harbour.
0:38:22 > 0:38:24We're just over from Wellington,
0:38:24 > 0:38:27and he used to catch the ferry from Wellington to Days Bay
0:38:27 > 0:38:29and hike over the hill to a fishing batch,
0:38:29 > 0:38:31and when he was going one day he found this in the bush,
0:38:31 > 0:38:33just lying in the bush.
0:38:33 > 0:38:36- When would that have been? - Probably, we think, around 1910.
0:38:36 > 0:38:39Wow. Well, it's older than that.
0:38:39 > 0:38:43That's amazing, to actually be in the presence
0:38:43 > 0:38:46of something that was actually found.
0:38:46 > 0:38:50This is a trawling lure, and they hung these out of the canoes,
0:38:50 > 0:38:52at the back of the canoes,
0:38:52 > 0:38:54as they were going in and out of the estuaries
0:38:54 > 0:38:56and along the coastal waters,
0:38:56 > 0:39:00and it's for surface fishing, or for catching fish like barracuda
0:39:00 > 0:39:02that surface-feed.
0:39:02 > 0:39:06They're on a long line of flax, some of which is left here.
0:39:07 > 0:39:10They're made of wood
0:39:10 > 0:39:11and this is abalone.
0:39:11 > 0:39:13What do the Maori call it?
0:39:13 > 0:39:18We call it paua. The canoes they used were called waka ama,
0:39:18 > 0:39:20which is the fishing canoe.
0:39:20 > 0:39:22This would have hung out the back of that.
0:39:22 > 0:39:27The abalone would have sparkled in the water like a fish,
0:39:27 > 0:39:29and the barracuda, or a surface-feeding fish,
0:39:29 > 0:39:35would have thought this was a fish and got lured and caught
0:39:35 > 0:39:37on this bone hook.
0:39:38 > 0:39:42I have to give it a value for the Roadshow audience,
0:39:42 > 0:39:45even though it's a family heirloom and of sentimental value,
0:39:45 > 0:39:49but one comparable to this
0:39:49 > 0:39:50came up recently
0:39:50 > 0:39:54and was valued at £1,800 to £2,200.
0:39:54 > 0:39:56As much as that?
0:39:56 > 0:39:58We'd never have thought of that.
0:39:59 > 0:40:01That's quite surprising, but it won't be sold.
0:40:05 > 0:40:09So, this was a medal awarded to your uncle, Noel Kinch,
0:40:09 > 0:40:10in, I think, the 1930s,
0:40:10 > 0:40:13- for an act of outstanding bravery?- Yes.
0:40:13 > 0:40:16Fiona told me the story, and what an incredible story.
0:40:16 > 0:40:19This here is the Northern Pride, which he served on board?
0:40:19 > 0:40:24Yes, that's the trawler that my uncle was a ship's cook on.
0:40:24 > 0:40:25- He was the ship's cook?- Yeah.
0:40:25 > 0:40:28His home port was Grimsby?
0:40:28 > 0:40:30Yes, he sailed from Grimsby.
0:40:30 > 0:40:33Because one maybe forgets nowadays
0:40:33 > 0:40:36that both Grimsby and Hull were massive fishing ports
0:40:36 > 0:40:38in the 19th and 20th century
0:40:38 > 0:40:40and, sadly, not so much today.
0:40:40 > 0:40:45- Yes.- But he must have been a superhero locally?- Yes.
0:40:45 > 0:40:46Well, I don't know, actually,
0:40:46 > 0:40:48because nobody knew about this story.
0:40:48 > 0:40:51- He never bragged? - He never bragged, no.
0:40:51 > 0:40:53The medal, called the Stanhope Medal,
0:40:53 > 0:40:57was issued by the Royal Humane Society.
0:40:57 > 0:41:01That society was founded way back in 1774, I think,
0:41:01 > 0:41:07in order to research into methods of reviving people who had drowned,
0:41:07 > 0:41:14and they issued the first of these medals 100 years later,
0:41:14 > 0:41:18so, 1873-1874, something like that.
0:41:20 > 0:41:24The remarkable thing about it is they only issued one every year.
0:41:24 > 0:41:30So, what you have is something that is incredibly scarce,
0:41:30 > 0:41:34intrinsically valued because it's solid gold
0:41:34 > 0:41:35and, most importantly,
0:41:35 > 0:41:37is the history and the story.
0:41:37 > 0:41:38So, you have something...
0:41:38 > 0:41:41I mean, it's something you're never going to get rid of.
0:41:41 > 0:41:43- No.- It will remain in the family forever?
0:41:43 > 0:41:46- Yes.- Which is exactly where it should be.- Yes.
0:41:46 > 0:41:49But, thinking of value,
0:41:49 > 0:41:50it's got everything.
0:41:50 > 0:41:52With medals, it is always the story,
0:41:52 > 0:41:56and you cannot get a better story than that.
0:41:56 > 0:41:59I would certainly think at auction, should it ever go to auction,
0:41:59 > 0:42:03you'd be thinking about a figure of between £6,000 and £10,000.
0:42:03 > 0:42:05Wow! Yeah.
0:42:07 > 0:42:08But it could be more. Who knows?
0:42:08 > 0:42:10Yes.
0:42:15 > 0:42:20You've brought along to me what has to be, without question,
0:42:20 > 0:42:22the smallest toilet pedestal in the world.
0:42:22 > 0:42:24Are you a toilet collector?
0:42:24 > 0:42:28I've got a friend and he digs bottles up as a hobby and he said,
0:42:28 > 0:42:29- "Do you want to buy it off me?"- Yeah?
0:42:29 > 0:42:31So I gave him £100 for it.
0:42:38 > 0:42:42This was on a stall and I asked the lady if I could pick it up,
0:42:42 > 0:42:44and she explained to me what it did,
0:42:44 > 0:42:48and when I saw what it did I thought it's really clever.
0:42:51 > 0:42:55This was almost certainly made as a travelling salesman's model.
0:42:55 > 0:42:58- Yes.- And no surprise that it's actually made by Doulton.
0:42:58 > 0:43:00This is cutting-edge stuff, isn't it,
0:43:00 > 0:43:02when it comes to engineering.
0:43:04 > 0:43:05Were you horribly shocked?
0:43:05 > 0:43:09Yeah, but it's quite amusing.
0:43:09 > 0:43:11And people said the Victorians were straight-laced!
0:43:11 > 0:43:13It's a great bit of fun,
0:43:13 > 0:43:16people love these rather slightly risque pieces.
0:43:16 > 0:43:18You paid £10 for it.
0:43:18 > 0:43:21I think I could see a collector paying £100 for that.
0:43:21 > 0:43:23- Really?- Because where would you find another one?
0:43:27 > 0:43:31Well, I know exactly what it's worth, because you've just told me,
0:43:31 > 0:43:33because, to you, that is worth £100.
0:43:33 > 0:43:36But when you think about it, £100 is cheap,
0:43:36 > 0:43:39because there'll come a time in your life
0:43:39 > 0:43:42when you'll be desperate to spend a penny!
0:43:42 > 0:43:44LAUGHTER
0:43:47 > 0:43:48Jack, you live here in Burton Constable,
0:43:48 > 0:43:51this has been in your family for hundreds of years.
0:43:51 > 0:43:53You've brought this from the chapel
0:43:53 > 0:43:57and it has a particularly emotional significance for your family?
0:43:57 > 0:44:01Yes, this is my great-granduncle Cecil's crucifix,
0:44:01 > 0:44:03which he wore around his neck
0:44:03 > 0:44:04throughout his life.
0:44:04 > 0:44:07He was a soldier in the First World War and in the Second World War.
0:44:07 > 0:44:10Cecil had been a prisoner of war in the First World War
0:44:10 > 0:44:14for the entire war, apart from his first six days,
0:44:14 > 0:44:16from the age of 21.
0:44:16 > 0:44:17And he said there was no way
0:44:17 > 0:44:21he was going to be a prisoner of war in the Second World War as well,
0:44:21 > 0:44:25and so he last seen heading out to meet the SS, pistol in hand.
0:44:25 > 0:44:28He thought it was over for his troops, did he?
0:44:28 > 0:44:30He thought there was no way he could escape,
0:44:30 > 0:44:32and he was not going to be a prisoner of war again.
0:44:32 > 0:44:36- So he decided he would go down in a blaze of gunfire and glory?- Exactly.
0:44:36 > 0:44:38As he lay dying from his wounds,
0:44:38 > 0:44:41this young Lance-Corporal, Alfons Dahlhoff,
0:44:41 > 0:44:43who was a Grenadier for the SS,
0:44:43 > 0:44:45came across him and saw his crucifix hanging from his neck.
0:44:45 > 0:44:47So this was a German soldier?
0:44:47 > 0:44:49Yes, it was a German soldier, who was a fellow Catholic,
0:44:49 > 0:44:52and sat by him in his last moments,
0:44:52 > 0:44:54comforting him in his death throes.
0:44:54 > 0:44:57And Cecil was able to give him both the crucifix
0:44:57 > 0:44:59and his last letters home,
0:44:59 > 0:45:00which he had in his pocket,
0:45:00 > 0:45:03to send to Burton Constable,
0:45:03 > 0:45:04and many months later,
0:45:04 > 0:45:08the family received a package in the war from Alfons' mother,
0:45:08 > 0:45:10saying, "I know we're still at war,
0:45:10 > 0:45:11"but I thought you should know
0:45:11 > 0:45:13"that your son died in the arms of a fellow Catholic.
0:45:13 > 0:45:17"My son, too, sadly died a few weeks later,
0:45:17 > 0:45:19"and here is a picture of him,
0:45:19 > 0:45:22"and we'd like you to pray for him as well."
0:45:22 > 0:45:26And so it was a very touching moment of serenity and kindness
0:45:26 > 0:45:29in such a chaotic and cruel world.
0:45:29 > 0:45:31And what this is is a symbol of two men
0:45:31 > 0:45:33who put aside their differences
0:45:33 > 0:45:36and the fact their two countries were trying to kill each other...
0:45:36 > 0:45:39- Yes.- ..and saw the common humanity
0:45:39 > 0:45:41at the most desperate of times.
0:45:41 > 0:45:42Exactly.
0:45:46 > 0:45:47Well, here's a scrap of paper
0:45:47 > 0:45:50which is almost so ephemeral as not to even be there.
0:45:50 > 0:45:52Can I read it?
0:45:52 > 0:45:55- Yes, please do.- "June 12, 1919.
0:45:55 > 0:45:59"My Dear Elsie, just a hurried line before I start.
0:45:59 > 0:46:03"This letter will travel with me in the official mailbag,
0:46:03 > 0:46:06"the first mail to be carried over the Atlantic."
0:46:07 > 0:46:10"Love to all, your loving brother Jack."
0:46:11 > 0:46:14So, Jack - this must be Jack Alcock?
0:46:14 > 0:46:17That's right. He was born John.
0:46:17 > 0:46:20Everybody called him Jack, so he signed his letter Jack.
0:46:21 > 0:46:25Jack Alcock was my grandmother's cousin.
0:46:27 > 0:46:33He was a pilot and there was a competition in the Daily Mail,
0:46:33 > 0:46:39and the prize was £10,000 for the first to cross the Atlantic nonstop.
0:46:39 > 0:46:43He decided to try with Arthur Whitten Brown
0:46:43 > 0:46:46and they flew from Newfoundland
0:46:46 > 0:46:50and crash-landed in a bog in Ireland.
0:46:50 > 0:46:53But...survived.
0:46:53 > 0:46:55And went on to...
0:46:55 > 0:46:58They won the £10,000.
0:46:58 > 0:47:00So these two men, these two brave men,
0:47:00 > 0:47:03- were the first to fly nonstop across the Atlantic?- That's correct.
0:47:03 > 0:47:04St John's, at the top here.
0:47:04 > 0:47:06- Yes.- This is St John's of Newfoundland.
0:47:06 > 0:47:08Yes. Yes.
0:47:08 > 0:47:10And what were they flying in?
0:47:10 > 0:47:11This is in 1919.
0:47:11 > 0:47:15Yes, they were flying in a Vickers Vimy,
0:47:15 > 0:47:19which they'd adapted a little bit for the flight.
0:47:19 > 0:47:21A Vickers Vimy, it's a First World War bomber, essentially.
0:47:21 > 0:47:23A twin-engined bomber
0:47:23 > 0:47:26designed for the offensive against Germany,
0:47:26 > 0:47:30it was able to fly from Britain to Germany,
0:47:30 > 0:47:32hence its range, I suppose.
0:47:32 > 0:47:35But no-one had tested it over the kind of range
0:47:35 > 0:47:37of the North Atlantic,
0:47:37 > 0:47:40so it was an extraordinarily brave feat.
0:47:40 > 0:47:42And Elsie was his sister?
0:47:42 > 0:47:44Elsie was his sister, yes.
0:47:44 > 0:47:46And so what you have here
0:47:46 > 0:47:48is one of the first pieces of paper,
0:47:48 > 0:47:51the first piece of airmail that went across the Atlantic.
0:47:51 > 0:47:53I find that something to conjure with.
0:47:53 > 0:47:57- Yes.- And, of course, there's a tragic coda to it, isn't there?
0:47:57 > 0:48:00- Yes.- Because, despite their bravery,
0:48:00 > 0:48:02and their success flying across the Atlantic,
0:48:02 > 0:48:04really against the odds,
0:48:04 > 0:48:07- later that year... - Yes, in December...
0:48:08 > 0:48:11..he crash-landed in France.
0:48:12 > 0:48:14So before 1919 was out...
0:48:14 > 0:48:16- He was dead. - Jack was no longer with us.
0:48:16 > 0:48:20- That's right.- So this makes this even more moving, I think.
0:48:20 > 0:48:21- Yes.- So...
0:48:22 > 0:48:25I think it's a wonderful scrap of paper.
0:48:25 > 0:48:28I mean, it's almost nothing to look at, but it means so much, I think.
0:48:28 > 0:48:33Of course, there's no postmark on this, there's no envelope,
0:48:33 > 0:48:36and so, in this sense, it's not stamped, it's not official mail.
0:48:36 > 0:48:37It's a personal note.
0:48:38 > 0:48:43So in a sense, its value is more personal than to a postal historian.
0:48:45 > 0:48:49I think I'd be very happy to put a figure of £1,000-£1,200 on it.
0:48:49 > 0:48:51Oh. Wow!
0:48:51 > 0:48:52Wow!
0:48:57 > 0:49:02This is a very elegant bronze statue,
0:49:02 > 0:49:04which I could easily imagine
0:49:04 > 0:49:09in a chic Parisian or New York apartment of about 1960,
0:49:09 > 0:49:14really looking the bee's knees, and a real statement piece.
0:49:14 > 0:49:18So, does it live in your Paris or New York apartment?
0:49:18 > 0:49:20Well, not at the moment, no!
0:49:20 > 0:49:22It lives with us in Hull.
0:49:22 > 0:49:24- In Hull?- In Hull.
0:49:24 > 0:49:26So how did you come by her?
0:49:26 > 0:49:29We've only had her for about three, four months, something like that.
0:49:30 > 0:49:34- OK.- I bought her from a friend.
0:49:34 > 0:49:36She came to us via a third party.
0:49:36 > 0:49:40She'd been sold and we were offered the opportunity of buying her,
0:49:40 > 0:49:42and that's about three or four months ago.
0:49:42 > 0:49:44OK. So you like her.
0:49:44 > 0:49:46Do you have a taste for Art Deco things?
0:49:46 > 0:49:49Very much so. My wife particularly does,
0:49:49 > 0:49:51and she is just beautiful.
0:49:51 > 0:49:52- She is.- She really is.
0:49:52 > 0:49:54And dare I ask, how much did she cost you?
0:49:54 > 0:49:57I own a fish-and-chip shop in Bridlington...
0:49:57 > 0:50:00- Right.- ..where she cost me £200,
0:50:00 > 0:50:02plus ten fish and chips.
0:50:02 > 0:50:04So a few fish suppers as well, thrown in?
0:50:04 > 0:50:06- Yeah.- Right, OK.
0:50:06 > 0:50:08Well, it's not often we get, on the Antiques Roadshow,
0:50:08 > 0:50:11pieces which have been part-exchanged for a fish supper,
0:50:11 > 0:50:13so it'll be a first for me.
0:50:13 > 0:50:15But let's take a closer look at her.
0:50:15 > 0:50:19So, bronze on this limestone base,
0:50:19 > 0:50:21influenced by the work of Barbara Hepworth
0:50:21 > 0:50:24and the other sculptors working in this country
0:50:24 > 0:50:25in the Modernist school.
0:50:25 > 0:50:27And it's a very good piece.
0:50:27 > 0:50:29A dancer, I think we can safely say.
0:50:29 > 0:50:35Very like the Art Deco figures of Dimitri Chiparus.
0:50:35 > 0:50:38I'm thinking some of his figures from the 1930s.
0:50:38 > 0:50:41And it's a classic pose of the period,
0:50:41 > 0:50:44and with real style and real elegance.
0:50:44 > 0:50:46- Where do you have her at home? - We have a turn on the stairs,
0:50:46 > 0:50:48and she is on the window on the turn on the stairs.
0:50:48 > 0:50:51Right, right. I think she's great, fantastic, really elegant piece.
0:50:51 > 0:50:53We do have a signature.
0:50:54 > 0:50:57Let's have a look. Underwood.
0:50:57 > 0:50:59Do you know anything about Underwood?
0:50:59 > 0:51:04Very little. I only know what I've looked up having bought her.
0:51:04 > 0:51:05OK. I'll confess to something now.
0:51:05 > 0:51:08When I first saw this name, Underwood,
0:51:08 > 0:51:10I immediately thought Leon Underwood,
0:51:10 > 0:51:11who is one of the...
0:51:11 > 0:51:14Well, he's reckoned to be one of the founding fathers
0:51:14 > 0:51:16of 20th-century British sculpture.
0:51:16 > 0:51:19It isn't. It's Guy Underwood.
0:51:19 > 0:51:21- Right.- So, if it was Leon Underwood
0:51:21 > 0:51:24we'd be talking many, many, many fish suppers.
0:51:24 > 0:51:27As it is, Guy is still an interesting piece.
0:51:27 > 0:51:31I mean, I think it represents the kind of object that WILL go up,
0:51:31 > 0:51:34simply on its decorative appeal alone, and it has that in spades.
0:51:34 > 0:51:37It's a really, really stylish piece.
0:51:37 > 0:51:39It clearly gives you pleasure.
0:51:39 > 0:51:41- You paid, you say...- It's £200.
0:51:41 > 0:51:44£200, plus a few fish suppers as well.
0:51:44 > 0:51:46I think, actually, at auction,
0:51:46 > 0:51:48in a good decorative-arts sale,
0:51:48 > 0:51:52I think you could see a return on that, perhaps a little bit more,
0:51:52 > 0:51:54- in the current market, £300 to £400.- Yeah.
0:51:54 > 0:51:56I think it's a good solid piece.
0:51:56 > 0:51:59- Lovely.- And well done, you, for the fish and chips!
0:51:59 > 0:52:00Thank you.
0:52:05 > 0:52:10So, absolutely surrounded by Georgian shoe buckles.
0:52:10 > 0:52:11How did you get them?
0:52:11 > 0:52:15Well, my husband, it was his...
0:52:15 > 0:52:17My late husband, it was his collection,
0:52:17 > 0:52:21and he collected them for over 50 years.
0:52:21 > 0:52:23That's marvellous. Because, you know,
0:52:23 > 0:52:27they had shoe buckles in the medieval period,
0:52:27 > 0:52:28but then they went out of fashion,
0:52:28 > 0:52:31and then they came back in the mid-17th century,
0:52:31 > 0:52:35and people like Samuel Pepys wrote about putting buckles on his shoes.
0:52:35 > 0:52:37But, of course, a lot of these
0:52:37 > 0:52:39are from the golden period of shoe buckles,
0:52:39 > 0:52:42from 1762 to 1780.
0:52:42 > 0:52:45And what was your husband's fascination in them?
0:52:45 > 0:52:50I don't really know. I mean, his father had a couple of pairs
0:52:50 > 0:52:53which he gave to my husband.
0:52:53 > 0:52:57And from then on, he just... He just liked them.
0:52:57 > 0:52:58When we went to antique fairs,
0:52:58 > 0:53:00we were always looking for shoe buckles.
0:53:00 > 0:53:04We could go into a quite upmarket antique shop
0:53:04 > 0:53:06and we were probably paying two pounds,
0:53:06 > 0:53:09two pounds ten shillings, something like that,
0:53:09 > 0:53:12for a pair of Georgian shoe buckles.
0:53:12 > 0:53:15- And did it become a little bit of an obsession?- Yes.
0:53:15 > 0:53:17THEY LAUGH
0:53:17 > 0:53:18- Just a bit.- Just a little bit!
0:53:18 > 0:53:21- So, you're here with your family today?- Yes.
0:53:21 > 0:53:23What do you think about your father's collection?
0:53:23 > 0:53:27I think it's amazing that he collected it over so many years.
0:53:27 > 0:53:28He was so proud of it.
0:53:28 > 0:53:32He researched them, he cleaned them,
0:53:32 > 0:53:34he catalogued them.
0:53:34 > 0:53:36He loved showing them to people, loved talking about them.
0:53:36 > 0:53:39- And, yes, there is even more! - THEY LAUGH
0:53:39 > 0:53:42So, how many do we have in the full collection?
0:53:42 > 0:53:44An awful lot.
0:53:44 > 0:53:45Come on, you can tell me.
0:53:46 > 0:53:47I've got about 1,500.
0:53:47 > 0:53:50- 1,500.- 1,500.
0:53:50 > 0:53:54Well, I think we're going back to a little bit of an obsession.
0:53:54 > 0:53:56Yes, it was rather!
0:53:56 > 0:53:59It gives us such a feeling for the Georgian period,
0:53:59 > 0:54:03with these dandies, men with these fabulous shoe buckles on,
0:54:03 > 0:54:05going to houses like this,
0:54:05 > 0:54:10and wearing all these fantastic buckles, with the paste ones,
0:54:10 > 0:54:14and the silver ones, and really very romantic, too.
0:54:14 > 0:54:20Yeah, it's hard to think it was men that wore these, not the women.
0:54:20 > 0:54:23I mean, they had silver ones which they kept for best,
0:54:23 > 0:54:26and they had more of the paste-type ones
0:54:26 > 0:54:29which was more or less an everyday type of buckle.
0:54:29 > 0:54:31Which is quite funny,
0:54:31 > 0:54:33when you look at some of the paste ones and see them,
0:54:33 > 0:54:35- they're quite dramatic, aren't they?- Yeah.
0:54:35 > 0:54:37- They're not understated, are they?- No, no.
0:54:37 > 0:54:41I love these creamware ones.
0:54:41 > 0:54:47I mean, they are absolutely so beautiful, and so impractical.
0:54:47 > 0:54:51Well, this is partially why there aren't that many around,
0:54:51 > 0:54:53because obviously they got broken.
0:54:54 > 0:55:00We did go to Northampton Museum once and saw the curator,
0:55:00 > 0:55:04and at that time she only knew of about five pairs
0:55:04 > 0:55:06of those particular shoe buckles.
0:55:06 > 0:55:08I mean, obviously, as soon as you put them on,
0:55:08 > 0:55:09they would break.
0:55:09 > 0:55:13You can't imagine they would survive one single wearing.
0:55:13 > 0:55:17But, of course, the others are much more practical and beautiful.
0:55:18 > 0:55:22And, well, what do I say about value?
0:55:22 > 0:55:24- Don't know. - THEY LAUGH
0:55:24 > 0:55:27If you just look at them
0:55:27 > 0:55:32and say that, you know, some of the lesser ones,
0:55:32 > 0:55:35maybe £100 the pair.
0:55:35 > 0:55:40Some of the more beautiful ones in these cases,
0:55:40 > 0:55:42maybe £500 to £700 a pair.
0:55:42 > 0:55:45And if you take the creamware ones,
0:55:45 > 0:55:51I would certainly see them very easily fetching £1,000.
0:55:51 > 0:55:55So, if you look at the collection as a whole,
0:55:55 > 0:55:57and it's pretty staggering to me,
0:55:57 > 0:56:00I think we're looking here, with your collection,
0:56:00 > 0:56:02at £200,000.
0:56:02 > 0:56:04Oh, God.
0:56:07 > 0:56:09- Staggering.- Oh, my God.
0:56:09 > 0:56:12Well, we don't really sort of think of that, you know.
0:56:12 > 0:56:16I mean, they're a collection and we are keeping the collection.
0:56:16 > 0:56:21And it will get passed down to my three daughters
0:56:21 > 0:56:25and possibly even further down the line than that.
0:56:25 > 0:56:28But he just loved them. Just absolutely loved them.
0:56:28 > 0:56:32Well, isn't it lovely that you've got this lovely inheritance,
0:56:32 > 0:56:34you've got your daughters and granddaughter -
0:56:34 > 0:56:36you know, it's a lovely family story.
0:56:39 > 0:56:40Yes.
0:56:42 > 0:56:43I should think he would be so proud
0:56:43 > 0:56:46to see his remarkable shoe-buckle collection
0:56:46 > 0:56:48displayed on the Antiques Roadshow.
0:56:48 > 0:56:49Did you know that two of our specialists
0:56:49 > 0:56:51used to collect shoe buckles?
0:56:51 > 0:56:52Philip Mould, our art expert -
0:56:52 > 0:56:55that was his first collection when he was a boy.
0:56:55 > 0:56:57And Ronnie Archer-Morgan, our miscellaneous specialist,
0:56:57 > 0:56:59he still collects them, even today.
0:56:59 > 0:57:02From Burton Constable and the whole Roadshow team,
0:57:02 > 0:57:03and the shoe buckles, bye-bye.