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0:00:32 > 0:00:38Welcome to "Flog It!", where you make brass from antiques from your past.

0:00:38 > 0:00:44It can be a thrill, especially when it's yours everyone's bidding for!

0:00:44 > 0:00:50Our experts give them a valuation and then you flog them at auction.

0:00:50 > 0:00:57But will they be off the mark or bang on the nose? Later, we'll find out exactly how well our owners do.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00That is very cheap, for sure!

0:01:00 > 0:01:03Twenty-one thirty?

0:01:03 > 0:01:08Back in the stable! Back in the stable, Doris! 95!

0:01:08 > 0:01:12I'm happy! That's what we like to see!

0:01:12 > 0:01:14Mahogany... At ?55!

0:01:14 > 0:01:16Come on! Fantastic!

0:01:16 > 0:01:19That's the top of your valuation.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23Yes! Very pleased. It's good!

0:01:23 > 0:01:26?160 is grand! Wow, I'm so glad!

0:01:30 > 0:01:38Today, we're in Hungerford in Berkshire - a thriving market town on the Kennet and Avon Canal,

0:01:38 > 0:01:44and bursting with antiques! You can browse and buy just about any antique you want.

0:01:46 > 0:01:52The locals are queueing with boxes for our experts to rummage through.

0:01:52 > 0:01:57Everyone hopes to make money, but it depends on our expert valuations.

0:01:57 > 0:02:05Philip Serrell started by playing rugby and cricket, but soon ran his own auction house in Worcestershire.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09Thomas, yeah! What's yours? Old things!

0:02:09 > 0:02:14Thomas Plant started work for an auctioneer's in Bath six years ago.

0:02:14 > 0:02:20What's traditional to Hungerford? I'm not sure! I just hope we see nice things!

0:02:20 > 0:02:23What's your area? Ceramics, modern...

0:02:23 > 0:02:26A young lad like you? You?

0:02:26 > 0:02:30Old things! Old things! I like furniture...

0:02:30 > 0:02:35and wacky, quirky decorative things, bits of wood, Worcester porcelain...

0:02:35 > 0:02:40Who'll do best? The young man. Oh, experience counts!

0:02:40 > 0:02:45Let's hope some will part with their treasured possessions

0:02:45 > 0:02:48after they hear what the experts say!

0:02:58 > 0:03:05First out of the bag is a beautiful brooch that has fired Thomas's imagination! When did you buy it,

0:03:05 > 0:03:11and how much for? About two years ago, in a jumble sale. It was in a box of spoons.

0:03:11 > 0:03:18I was looking to find anything silver in a spoon collection, and I bought a lot of stuff. It was 5p. 5p.

0:03:18 > 0:03:25Yeah. It's been in my car ashtray for a few years. It just sat there. You've done nothing with it?

0:03:25 > 0:03:32I haven't. My girlfriend calls it "the treasure". As the programme was on, she said, "Take the treasure!",

0:03:32 > 0:03:35hence why you've got it! It's pretty.

0:03:35 > 0:03:40It dates from about late 19th century, 1900s.

0:03:40 > 0:03:47It's got this wonderful blue enamel, set with this cut stone, which I believe is possibly a small ruby.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51It's quite nicely cut.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54At 5p, it's a very good buy!

0:03:54 > 0:03:59I would've thought it's gonna be worth between ?25 and ?30.

0:03:59 > 0:04:01I think that's a very good mark-up.

0:04:01 > 0:04:08I can't argue! So, if you're thinking about selling, we'd love to give it a go. Happily! Brilliant.

0:04:08 > 0:04:11Thirty pounds is thirty pounds!

0:04:16 > 0:04:21I'm Philip. Your names? Ian and Joan. Where are you from? Reading.

0:04:21 > 0:04:26How far's that away? 20, 30 miles. Not far!

0:04:26 > 0:04:34And you've brought these. Indeed. This part is made out of stag horn, and the base is hallmarked silver.

0:04:34 > 0:04:39So if we get the hallmark book out, do you know what a hallmark is?

0:04:39 > 0:04:43Yes. Or how it works? JOAN: A little history of the...

0:04:43 > 0:04:47It's a series of marks, and there's a line on there,

0:04:47 > 0:04:50and that tells you that it's silver.

0:04:50 > 0:04:57And there's the Assay Office, and in this instance, the Assay Office looks...

0:04:57 > 0:05:04It's a leopard's head, which tells you it's London. If it were an anchor, it would be Birmingham.

0:05:04 > 0:05:10And then we've got various letters of the alphabet. Here, we have a "D" in a shield,

0:05:10 > 0:05:16So they're London, about 1879. They might've been carved earlier,

0:05:16 > 0:05:21but... That checks out with what we believe the problems to be.

0:05:21 > 0:05:26How did you get them? They belong to my mother and were given to her

0:05:26 > 0:05:32by the daughter of one of the ladies-in-waiting to Queen Alexander

0:05:32 > 0:05:35at the start of the last century.

0:05:35 > 0:05:40Lady...Lady Baggot, wasn't it? Yeah. And who do they represent?

0:05:40 > 0:05:45We believe they're caricatures of Disraeli and Gladstone.

0:05:45 > 0:05:49That one on its own might be, say,

0:05:49 > 0:05:54a candlestick holder or a spill vase. I was wondering -

0:05:54 > 0:05:56having just got this pen in my hand,

0:05:56 > 0:06:04I wonder if they sat on someone's desk and held a pen, like that. Have you thought of selling them?

0:06:04 > 0:06:08Yes, they belong to my mother and she'd be happy to sell them.

0:06:08 > 0:06:15They're really interesting. In auction, they could make ?100 to ?200. Very nice!

0:06:15 > 0:06:20If we reserve them at ?80, and estimate them at ?100 to ?200...

0:06:20 > 0:06:23Don't be surprised if they make more!

0:06:23 > 0:06:27Sorry about the dust! It's all right.

0:06:28 > 0:06:30I can't see a mark,

0:06:30 > 0:06:33but it's really quite nice.

0:06:33 > 0:06:39That definitely is coal-painted bronze... Yeah. ..and certainly from Vienna,

0:06:39 > 0:06:42In terms of value, ?80 to ?100.

0:06:42 > 0:06:48That's a sensible estimate. Were you thinking of selling? No. No? OK.

0:06:48 > 0:06:52That's fine. This might be quite difficult to get this back on.

0:06:52 > 0:06:57You should've been careful when you took it off, then you'd know!

0:06:58 > 0:07:01An unlucky break there for Thomas.

0:07:01 > 0:07:07Philip has found something even more bizarre. What on earth is this?

0:07:07 > 0:07:11It's a Chinese puzzle. Show me how it works. Easier said than done.

0:07:11 > 0:07:19You have to remove all these rings, somehow, so that the bar is just left separately from the rest of it.

0:07:19 > 0:07:22I've never got past the second ring,

0:07:22 > 0:07:27but my uncle did it halfway. How long did that take? Weeks!

0:07:27 > 0:07:33Dear me! He got it about 40 years ago. Where from? He was a totter!

0:07:33 > 0:07:37Really? Yes. And it came in his rag-and-bone trade.

0:07:37 > 0:07:45Fascinating. I don't know what it's worth. I haven't seen anything like it. I'd guess it's from about 1900,

0:07:45 > 0:07:52and I'd guess its value is between ?20 and ?40, but it's a bit of quirky fun, isn't it? It is!

0:07:52 > 0:07:55Yeah! It's different. Thank you for bringing it.

0:07:55 > 0:08:03Everyone is hanging on to what they brought, but Thomas has found something right up his street.

0:08:03 > 0:08:08It's Clarice Cliff, from the 1920s art deco period. Tell me about this.

0:08:08 > 0:08:13I was left this earlier this year from my sister in law...

0:08:13 > 0:08:18..and, I'm afraid, I don't appreciate Clarice Cliff.

0:08:18 > 0:08:22You're right. It's Clarice Cliff, and it's the Crocus pattern.

0:08:22 > 0:08:27We can define it a bit more - it's spring crocus,

0:08:27 > 0:08:32the reason being that the band below the crocuses is green.

0:08:32 > 0:08:37You do get a crocus colour that is brown, and that's the autumn crocus.

0:08:37 > 0:08:43What you have here is a biscuit barrel in a traditional shape,

0:08:43 > 0:08:48not in her usual bizarre, jazzy Clarice Cliff art-deco shapes,

0:08:48 > 0:08:52so this is probably a later one.

0:08:52 > 0:08:57If we look at the mark on the base...here,

0:08:57 > 0:09:03there's the signature - Clarice Cliff, Newport Pottery, England,

0:09:03 > 0:09:08and the factory is in Staffordshire. It seems to be in good condition.

0:09:08 > 0:09:13There's not much damage. There's some chipping to the paintwork.

0:09:13 > 0:09:19Have you any ideas of value? No. None? No. You don't like it, and you've no idea of value.

0:09:19 > 0:09:22Well...

0:09:22 > 0:09:28When you look at the whole thing, and the Clarice Cliff market, people like the rarer bits,

0:09:28 > 0:09:34with rarer patterns such as Gibraltar, or Honolulu.

0:09:34 > 0:09:38Rare patterns, and maybe more jazzy. Yes.

0:09:38 > 0:09:43However, this is sellable. It's still collected by a lot of people.

0:09:43 > 0:09:51People like collecting Crocus, the reason being, there's a lot of it around, so it can satisfy demand.

0:09:51 > 0:09:57I would suggest, at auction, this is gonna be worth between ?100 and ?150.

0:09:57 > 0:10:02It certainly might make more, but ?100 to ?150 is a saleable estimate.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05How do you feel about that? Well...

0:10:05 > 0:10:10As you say, yes, I thought the pattern was a common one...

0:10:10 > 0:10:13Am I allowed to think about it?

0:10:13 > 0:10:20You can think about it, for sure. No problem. Thank you. Thank you very much.

0:10:20 > 0:10:25While Mrs Taylor goes to ponder, Philip is caught in another puzzle!

0:10:27 > 0:10:32So this is a watercolour by William Egerton-Hine. How did you get it?

0:10:32 > 0:10:39I saw it in a junk shop. We used to go here on holiday, and saw it was near where we went, so I bought it.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42It was ?20, I think.

0:10:42 > 0:10:50It's near La Tuque. I like the way it's inscribed, just here - "To my dear young friend, C Collin-Smith."

0:10:50 > 0:10:56I wish I knew who it was! It'd be nice! You can never see why people sell them. I rang Eton College,

0:10:56 > 0:11:04because he was the art master there. How did you find that out? I can't remember! I must've looked in a book.

0:11:04 > 0:11:11I phoned them, and they said yes, he was the art master, and would I give them the painting? I said no.

0:11:12 > 0:11:19I can understand that. I'll get one of my reference books and we'll see what we can find out.

0:11:19 > 0:11:25Thomas is also trying to track down an artist, but this owner HAS done his research.

0:11:25 > 0:11:30Tell me, what do you know about it, and how did you come by it, etc?

0:11:30 > 0:11:37It's a bit of a hobby of mine to occasionally go to the auctions. I saw it there... I liked it.

0:11:37 > 0:11:41I didn't know anything about the artist, so...

0:11:41 > 0:11:45I went to the library and saw the name John Varley,

0:11:45 > 0:11:49and there is a very good John Varley,

0:11:49 > 0:11:54and this turned out to be his son. Yes! I was pleased when I bought it.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57How much did you pay?

0:11:57 > 0:12:02I paid ?30. You've done the work, so we don't have to do too much.

0:12:02 > 0:12:06Are you willing to sell it? Certainly.

0:12:06 > 0:12:11There's some staining and foxing, which will take away some value,

0:12:11 > 0:12:14although those can be cleaned up.

0:12:14 > 0:12:20If it was John Varley's son it would be very valuable. I'd be a very happy man! You'd be very happy!

0:12:20 > 0:12:28As we know, you've done the work, and we know it's the junior, and ?150 to ?200 is a sensible estimate.

0:12:28 > 0:12:32Lovely! That's brilliant. Thank you for bringing it in.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39Here we are, look.

0:12:39 > 0:12:43William Egerton-Hine. He's in there! Yep.

0:12:43 > 0:12:48"East View Of The South Downs", 14" by 20", and that made ?360.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51How much did you pay for it? ?20.

0:12:52 > 0:12:54There you are! That all right?!

0:12:54 > 0:12:57I'd rather keep it! Damn and blast!

0:12:57 > 0:13:00I think it's worth more than that.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03That was 14" by 20",

0:13:03 > 0:13:08and my guess is, that is probably more like 8" by 14",

0:13:08 > 0:13:11so it's almost half the size...

0:13:12 > 0:13:19I'm not suggesting that you sell pictures by the yard, or the square yard,

0:13:19 > 0:13:25but it'll be worth less than the sum we quoted. All valuation is based on comparable,

0:13:25 > 0:13:31so this just gives you a comparable to work from. If this one's at ?360,

0:13:31 > 0:13:34we estimate this at ?150 to ?250.

0:13:34 > 0:13:39Would you put that in the sale? Yes, I don't mind.

0:13:39 > 0:13:46If we put a reserve on it, it wants to be just below the bottom estimate, so I suggest ?120... OK!

0:13:46 > 0:13:50..which is a good return on ?20!

0:13:56 > 0:14:02Philip and Thomas have been working hard to find some winners to take to the auction.

0:14:02 > 0:14:06Let's find out what they've chosen so far.

0:14:08 > 0:14:14Tim Pearson bought his brooch for 5p, so he can't lose, can he?

0:14:17 > 0:14:22Really quite pretty... Only in at ?30, so a great mark-up for him.

0:14:22 > 0:14:27He was very happy, and I think the buyer will be extremely happy too.

0:14:27 > 0:14:33Ian and Joan get the award for the quirkiest characters - their political pen holders.

0:14:33 > 0:14:40But will they be difficult to sell? How do you value something like that? I've never seen any before.

0:14:40 > 0:14:44I put ?100 to ?200. Fingers crossed!

0:14:44 > 0:14:51After a good ponder, Mrs Taylor has decided to sell her biscuit barrel. Which way will the cookies crumble?

0:14:51 > 0:14:58The finial, which you lift off the lid with, is lovely and bulbous. I quite like that.

0:14:58 > 0:15:05Despite all Philip's endeavours, Maureen has decided not to sell her Egerton-Hine picture after all.

0:15:07 > 0:15:13Finally, Michael knows about his painting, but not what it's worth. Will it do well?

0:15:13 > 0:15:18That's quite a mark-up. You must be very happy. I am!

0:15:18 > 0:15:23I must admit, I'm not that clued up on items

0:15:23 > 0:15:27by this painter, but it's John Varley Jr,

0:15:27 > 0:15:30and it was a watercolour scene

0:15:30 > 0:15:34estimated at ?150 to ?200, and that's got a good chance.

0:15:34 > 0:15:39Auctions are exciting. You never know what'll happen.

0:15:39 > 0:15:46They've changed so much over the last 10 years with the internet, digital cameras, and motorway links.

0:15:46 > 0:15:51You get more people, and it builds up a bit of auction fever,

0:15:51 > 0:15:57and if it's well attended, prices will go well, so fingers crossed!

0:16:02 > 0:16:08Not far away is Marlborough, where the auction is taking place.

0:16:08 > 0:16:12In Wiltshire, it has one of the most famous schools in the country.

0:16:12 > 0:16:20Amongst the locals who've turned up to bag a bargain are our owners, looking to profit on their pieces,

0:16:20 > 0:16:26but at auction, anything can happen! It depends on who's in the room.

0:16:30 > 0:16:37Our experts have given the antiques much thought, but one opinion is crucial - that of the auctioneer,

0:16:37 > 0:16:44Sheldon Cameron. As our lots come up, it won't help our owners' chances if he doesn't rate them!

0:16:44 > 0:16:47What does he think of Tim's brooch?

0:16:50 > 0:16:55I congratulate the man buying that and wish he'd come shopping with me!

0:16:55 > 0:17:02It's Victorian, with the enamelware. It would've cost, when made, two to three weeks' wages for someone.

0:17:02 > 0:17:08Inset is a ruby, which is hard to see through the side. It has a little glass panel,

0:17:08 > 0:17:14with a lock of hair or a photograph as a sweetheart or memorial brooch.

0:17:14 > 0:17:20Estimate? If it started in around ?40, I'd think we would be fairly close to that.

0:17:20 > 0:17:27Good news for Tim, but Mrs Taylor has decided to hang on to her biscuit barrel for another day.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30Clarice Cliff is very collectable,

0:17:30 > 0:17:37and is becoming more sought after. Whenever a piece is in auction, there's lots of interest in it.

0:17:37 > 0:17:45People want condition reports. It's in good condition. Could've sold well. We'll never find out now.

0:17:45 > 0:17:52We THINK - we're not too sure - they're political characters carved out of antler...deer antler,

0:17:52 > 0:17:57and were possibly pen holders. The estimate was ?100 to ?150.

0:17:57 > 0:18:03I hope Philip's got his chequebook on him tomorrow. I think a bit less.

0:18:03 > 0:18:07John Varley - a sought-after artist,

0:18:07 > 0:18:13but known for having figures in the picture. In this, there are none, so it could appear naked.

0:18:13 > 0:18:21Its condition is quite good - not brilliant. There is some foxing in the top, which detracts somewhat,

0:18:21 > 0:18:26but there has been interest in it, with a fair few reports given on it.

0:18:26 > 0:18:30I think somewhere tomorrow between ?50 and ?100.

0:18:32 > 0:18:37The auction is underway, but before our items come under the hammer,

0:18:37 > 0:18:42there's just time to see if Thomas has any doubts about his estimates.

0:18:43 > 0:18:49The mourning brooch... You're spot on. It might do better. There's a stamp on the back...

0:18:49 > 0:18:56Yes. ..and it's Child and Child, so hopefully it could be good. Bump it up a little? Yes.

0:18:56 > 0:19:02And the rest of the valuations...? They were quite good. John Varley, as I said,

0:19:02 > 0:19:08I'm not a great painter specialist. Sheldon put them at a bit less than me, um...

0:19:08 > 0:19:14but he bought it for ?30... Can't be hard to make a profit. Exactly.

0:19:14 > 0:19:21There's been frantic bidding so far! Our owners are steadying their nerve before their turn arrives.

0:19:21 > 0:19:24?2,130... ?2,150...

0:19:24 > 0:19:28?160, I'm at... ?170... ?180...

0:19:28 > 0:19:34Tim's up first with his 5p brooch, and we think this one's in the bag! All finished at...

0:19:34 > 0:19:38Lot 280 is a 19th-century circular brooch.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45Lot 280, the enamel brooch, here.

0:19:46 > 0:19:48Lot 280, the enamel brooch.

0:19:48 > 0:19:52Thomas? I'm hoping!

0:19:52 > 0:19:56Praying... It should be good! Here it is. It's gonna be shown.

0:19:56 > 0:20:02It's the first lot of jewellery today, so let's hope it's the best.

0:20:02 > 0:20:04Lot 280. ?10 for it?

0:20:04 > 0:20:08?10, surely! Thank you! At ?10. You bidding, sir?

0:20:08 > 0:20:11?15. At ?15 to you, sir...

0:20:11 > 0:20:16?15, we're stuck at. At ?15, who's got ?20 for it?

0:20:16 > 0:20:20Who's got ?18? A rather nice brooch, here. A nice Christmas present,

0:20:20 > 0:20:24who's for ?18? If you're all finished...

0:20:24 > 0:20:29Victorian silver, with the ruby, only ?15. ?15? Better than 5p!

0:20:29 > 0:20:32It's profit! Thomas?

0:20:32 > 0:20:34That is very cheap, for sure!

0:20:34 > 0:20:41That'll teach us to be so confident. Ian and Joan's prime ministers, Disraeli and Gladstone,

0:20:41 > 0:20:46are right up Philip's street, but will anyone vote for them today?

0:20:46 > 0:20:51Next we've got these political characters made from stag's horn,

0:20:51 > 0:20:53with a silver base. Real nice ones.

0:20:53 > 0:20:58They've been in your family for some time? They were given to my mother

0:20:58 > 0:21:03by the daughter of one of the ladies-in-waiting to Queen Alexandra,

0:21:03 > 0:21:08who was the stepdaughter of Queen Victoria, hence the date on them.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11A royalty connection should help.

0:21:11 > 0:21:18Philip, do you reckon ?100 to ?200? I've never seen anything like them, so how do you value them?

0:21:18 > 0:21:23Just from the quirky factor, I'll be disappointed if they don't sell.

0:21:23 > 0:21:28I think Philip's very ambitious in his valuation, but fingers crossed!

0:21:28 > 0:21:33He's doubting you! He wouldn't be on his own! We'll find out now.

0:21:33 > 0:21:38Lot 300 is the rather nice pair of Victorian antler pen holders,

0:21:38 > 0:21:42dated London 1879,

0:21:42 > 0:21:47with silver rims to them, or bases. Lot 300, starting at ?70.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50?75... ?80... ?85, ?90... ?100.

0:21:50 > 0:21:55?110. I'm out. ?120 with you, sir. ?120.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58We're at ?120! Fantastic!

0:21:58 > 0:22:01At ?120, if you've all finished that...

0:22:01 > 0:22:06Well done! Pleased? Thrilled! Really happy. Congratulations.

0:22:15 > 0:22:18Next is the Varley Jr landscape.

0:22:18 > 0:22:24Thomas valued it at ?150, but has he painted Michael into a corner?

0:22:24 > 0:22:30We've got Michael Burrell here. His nice 19th-century watercolour is about to come up.

0:22:30 > 0:22:35A few lots to go! How are you feeling? Nervous! Fingers crossed.

0:22:35 > 0:22:42I hope someone takes it to say they have a John Varley. That'd be nice. If it does ?150, what'll you do?

0:22:42 > 0:22:48I'll be pleased. The children will earmark some money for presents!

0:22:48 > 0:22:50Great! We'll see how it goes.

0:22:50 > 0:22:55Lot 165 is the late 19th century watercolour, signed "John Varley".

0:22:55 > 0:23:01The one in the cabinet - Lot 165, watercolour by John Varley.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04A lot of interest in this.

0:23:04 > 0:23:09A lot of interest in this one - Lot 165. Start with me at ?32.

0:23:09 > 0:23:12At ?32. ?32 only as a start!

0:23:12 > 0:23:15Who's going on now? ?30. ?35, ?38.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18?42, ?45. ?48.

0:23:18 > 0:23:21?48, sir. ?48.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24Well short on the valuation! We are.

0:23:24 > 0:23:28It does seem awfully cheap. At ?48, do I hear ?50?

0:23:28 > 0:23:31At ?48, if you're all finished...

0:23:31 > 0:23:34?48 it is. Michael, ?48.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37Still, a small profit. Not too bad.

0:23:37 > 0:23:42Still very pleased. Good. I'm pleased. Profit is profit after all.

0:23:42 > 0:23:49We can use that money to make MORE profit! ..A bit out, there! Yes, but I'll know better for next time,

0:23:49 > 0:23:56when I see a John Varley like that. The lack of frame had quite an effect, but profit is profit!

0:24:04 > 0:24:10Back in the valuation room, Philip has found something he likes, but it's not exactly an antique!

0:24:13 > 0:24:15These are lovely. Where'd you get these from?

0:24:15 > 0:24:19They were mum's. I don't know where she got them from.

0:24:19 > 0:24:23I remember working this at home! Yeah?

0:24:23 > 0:24:26This is the beauty of this game.

0:24:26 > 0:24:32I love kitchenalia and this tells you what it is. It's a Spong's bean slicer, number 633.

0:24:32 > 0:24:36Obviously, it clamps onto the side of your table,

0:24:36 > 0:24:39which I won't... On there like that.

0:24:39 > 0:24:43You feed your bean into there and then you turn this handle...

0:24:45 > 0:24:49..and out they come, ready sliced. I like that!

0:24:49 > 0:24:51They're worth something, are they?

0:24:51 > 0:24:54Yeah! I mean...

0:24:54 > 0:24:5710 or 15 years ago, no! Right.

0:24:57 > 0:25:01All this kitchenalia is now becoming more and more collectable.

0:25:01 > 0:25:07That's interesting because it's got Spong's, "Made In England" on it...

0:25:07 > 0:25:15That's just an ordinary mincer with no identification, and my advice would be to put these in as one lot,

0:25:15 > 0:25:19at ?20 to ?30. Right. Put a reserve on them at ?15...

0:25:19 > 0:25:26Um... But, you know, they could do quite well. The only problem is that the market is quite tough,

0:25:26 > 0:25:31and they'll never be worth fortunes cos they're not works of art. No.

0:25:31 > 0:25:38They're just collectors' items. They would do well. Are you happy to put them in? Yeah! We'll put those down.

0:25:38 > 0:25:45We have a Kenwood mixer. Would it go? Well... Electrical. OK. Careful about selling electrical things.

0:25:45 > 0:25:51This is a claret jug, and you've got a silver hallmark there, which is nice.

0:25:51 > 0:25:59So all of this is silver, and then it's applied on this glass mount, with a monogram on the top there,

0:25:59 > 0:26:04and if we lift the thumb piece back, and I put me eyes on, we can see,

0:26:04 > 0:26:10it says "P Hazeldine, 101 New Bond Street", which is obviously London,

0:26:10 > 0:26:15and, obviously, it's come from a good shop. So that's good!

0:26:15 > 0:26:21It be better still if we hadn't got this chunk out of the bottom. Yes!

0:26:21 > 0:26:28There is the possibility that you could re-grind that. It might at some time have sat in a silver base.

0:26:28 > 0:26:33The value is about ?80 to ?120. Put a reserve on it around ?50 or ?60.

0:26:33 > 0:26:36I think it will sell all right.

0:26:36 > 0:26:43Is it a specialist thing? No, no, no. There's lots of collectors at these, and it's a claret jug.

0:26:43 > 0:26:48Fill that with claret, polish it up... I could live with the chips.

0:26:48 > 0:26:54We need to get the reserve right. So you're happy to put it in too? Yes.

0:26:54 > 0:26:57Consign these to the auction, as they say. OK!

0:26:57 > 0:27:04Big collection! You must be avid collectors. How did you come by all of this?

0:27:04 > 0:27:09I bought them 12 years ago, and ever since, they've been in boxes.

0:27:09 > 0:27:15They haven't seen daylight for 12 years? The same paper they've been wrapped in? 1990.

0:27:15 > 0:27:22You've got everything from hot water jugs to tea caddies. If you were thinking of selling them,

0:27:22 > 0:27:25which you are, is that right? Yes!

0:27:25 > 0:27:32I would suggest you put them in one lot, together, because some of them are damaged,

0:27:32 > 0:27:38some have dents in... There's nothing here which has any sort of, you know, large value,

0:27:38 > 0:27:44to be sold on its own, so I recommend they're sold as a lot - a lot of pewter.

0:27:44 > 0:27:49I think you'd get people interested. One item that is good fun is this.

0:27:49 > 0:27:55This is a great flask. It's a bit big to carry around with you,

0:27:55 > 0:28:01in one's pocket. It's something to travel with - maybe for water when walking.

0:28:01 > 0:28:07They wouldn't put alcohol in here. After a day of that, that'd be it!

0:28:07 > 0:28:11Importantly, the glass seems in good condition.

0:28:11 > 0:28:18It doesn't matter about the leather too much, although most is there. That's a good lead for the lot.

0:28:19 > 0:28:25The rest of the items I'd value at between ?150 and ?200 as one lot

0:28:25 > 0:28:30in the sale at Marlborough. Are you happy with that? That's fine. OK.

0:28:32 > 0:28:35There we are. Well!

0:28:35 > 0:28:39That's a lovely Victorian nursing chair, isn't it? It is!

0:28:39 > 0:28:44It's distressed, isn't it? Very! If we were like that, we would be too!

0:28:44 > 0:28:50It's a real crying shame, isn't it, cos you've got all this wonderful material here,

0:28:50 > 0:28:55and it's just had it, hasn't it? It has. And all this deep buttoning...

0:28:55 > 0:29:02How long have you had it? When my gran knew I was expecting 39 years ago... It was your nursing chair!

0:29:02 > 0:29:09..it was given to me as a nursing chair, which I did use. We'd just like to tip him over,

0:29:09 > 0:29:14and look and see if we can see anything on the casters.

0:29:17 > 0:29:19No.

0:29:19 > 0:29:21That one has been slightly altered.

0:29:21 > 0:29:26Can you see how it's missing a collar on there, look. Mm!

0:29:26 > 0:29:31It's a totally different caster. It'd be nice to get another caster,

0:29:31 > 0:29:37but we can just see here... If you sat on it without these slats you'd end up on the floor!

0:29:37 > 0:29:41Can you see the springs coming through? Yeah. But...

0:29:41 > 0:29:46What I like about it is that it's just absolutely as it was

0:29:46 > 0:29:53and whoever buys it has certainly got a pattern to reupholster it in. The problem you've got

0:29:53 > 0:29:57is that it's really expensive to reupholster these.

0:29:57 > 0:30:03Really expensive. But you could have an estimate at auction of ?50 to ?80,

0:30:03 > 0:30:08put a reserve at about the ?40 mark, and I think it'll do very nicely!

0:30:08 > 0:30:13The type of person who'll buy it is a lady doing an upholstery class...

0:30:13 > 0:30:18I went to one and they wouldn't touch it! They wouldn't touch it?!

0:30:18 > 0:30:26They couldn't get the buttoning as it was. The only thing I would consider is taking out that panel...

0:30:27 > 0:30:33OK? Trying to buy some old Victorian tapestries or woolwork,

0:30:33 > 0:30:36and I would put them in there,

0:30:36 > 0:30:41cos I don't find this offensive! The velvet stuff has come off...

0:30:41 > 0:30:48Yeah, but it is what it is! If you were 100 years old, yours would come off! More than likely!

0:30:49 > 0:30:52Tell me, sir, about your plates.

0:30:52 > 0:30:56Well, these plates came from my parents.

0:30:56 > 0:31:03We discovered them when they had died, and we collected the bits and pieces, and there were these plates,

0:31:03 > 0:31:09and so we decided these were nice, and we understand they may go back in my family

0:31:09 > 0:31:15back to my grandfather's time. Well, I've had a look at them and they're by Doulton.

0:31:15 > 0:31:20You have this transfer-printed border - the Provence pattern.

0:31:20 > 0:31:25And centred is this wonderful transfer-printed Royal crest,

0:31:25 > 0:31:28which is really special. It is!

0:31:28 > 0:31:35I've never seen a set of six with this Royal Crest. Really? Yeah. So I think it's quite rare.

0:31:35 > 0:31:43Whether they were just for the Royal household is another matter. I doubt it. A very nice colour on the edges.

0:31:43 > 0:31:48It's a beautiful colour, and how the glaze has dripped and smudged

0:31:48 > 0:31:51makes it quite attractive.

0:31:51 > 0:31:56Two things to think about - a) They're Doulton, so collectable.

0:31:56 > 0:32:02b) They've got an armorial on them. People like to collect armorials as well.

0:32:02 > 0:32:05But there are some chips and damage.

0:32:05 > 0:32:10So, if you were thinking about selling, which I believe you are...?

0:32:10 > 0:32:17Yes! Yes? Yes. I would've thought an estimate at auction would be between ?250 and ?300.

0:32:17 > 0:32:22That's excellent. Very good. We'll see if we can flog them. Thank you!

0:32:22 > 0:32:29Doris has something else Philip can horse around with. Good, isn't he? He's lovely!

0:32:29 > 0:32:33A Mobo - a walking horse! How long have you owned him?

0:32:33 > 0:32:39Um... In my family... Yeah. ..just on 40 years. Really? Yes.

0:32:39 > 0:32:46And before that? My cousin had it from a young child. So probably late 40s, early 50s? Possibly, yes.

0:32:46 > 0:32:49This is the original paint. It is.

0:32:49 > 0:32:55There's new paint here. It's made in England, which is a good stamp to see on the side!

0:32:55 > 0:33:01The expression is "quiet to shoe, box and clip"? Something like that!

0:33:01 > 0:33:06"Steady in traffic" or something! He's a real good toy, isn't he?

0:33:06 > 0:33:13In terms of value, at auction he will make probably in the order of...?60 to ?90.

0:33:13 > 0:33:18And I'd put a reserve around the ?50 mark, with a bit of discretion.

0:33:18 > 0:33:23So if you give the auctioneers 10% discretion on that ?50 figure...

0:33:23 > 0:33:28But I think he's sweet, and he'll... He's still serviceable, isn't he?

0:33:28 > 0:33:31He is. Yeah? Yeah.

0:33:31 > 0:33:38It'd be nice to go to a new home. It'd be nice if he made a lot of money, but the market's hard,

0:33:38 > 0:33:43so I'd be cautious. Happy to do that? Yes. We'll put him in. Thanks.

0:33:51 > 0:33:57Philip and Thomas have been working hard to get some winners to take to the auction.

0:33:58 > 0:34:04We've had a good crowd. It was nice to see a good turnout. People queuing out in the street,

0:34:04 > 0:34:06which is how it should be!

0:34:11 > 0:34:14It's certainly been quite busy,

0:34:14 > 0:34:16and draining on one's vocal cords!

0:34:19 > 0:34:24We saw some good quality things, regrettably not all of it for sale!

0:34:24 > 0:34:28But I think we saw some good things, completely across the range.

0:34:28 > 0:34:35I saw furniture, silver, glass, handsome wood too, but they weren't for sale, regrettably.

0:34:39 > 0:34:43I call it "pressing the flesh" - meeting different people,

0:34:43 > 0:34:50going through their treasures, to disappoint or to excite, or to tell them what they already know!

0:34:50 > 0:34:53Let's see what the rest are selling.

0:34:53 > 0:34:59Doris brought her two childhood treasures to auction - the Victorian nursing chair...

0:34:59 > 0:35:03It had seen better days, but we put ?50 to ?80 on it,

0:35:03 > 0:35:10or something like that. It's the ideal thing for a lady in an upholstery class,

0:35:10 > 0:35:17and they can convert it back into a loved thing, and it'll be useful in a bedroom or drawing room.

0:35:17 > 0:35:21..and her horse, which she played on as a child!

0:35:21 > 0:35:26We put ?60 to ?90 on that and it'll do OK at the sale room.

0:35:26 > 0:35:32James Brazier has decided to part with his pewter collection, but will anyone want it?

0:35:33 > 0:35:38Put it in as one job lot. 20 pieces - coffee pots, inkwells,

0:35:38 > 0:35:40flasks, etc. It's quite good.

0:35:40 > 0:35:47At ?150 to ?200, it should sell in between those estimates, if not exceed those.

0:35:47 > 0:35:52Brian was surprised his items were worth as much as Philip's valuation.

0:35:52 > 0:35:59They're no great shakes, but are more and more collectable. They should make ?15 to ?30.

0:35:59 > 0:36:04He's delighted with the jug's price, although the chip may keep bids low.

0:36:04 > 0:36:11I think ?80 to ?100, and that should do well. People like claret jugs. They're quite collectable.

0:36:11 > 0:36:13And finally, Carolyn is hoping

0:36:13 > 0:36:18her Doulton will make a profit. She's got her eye on something else.

0:36:18 > 0:36:21They're in at ?250 to ?300.

0:36:21 > 0:36:24They might just fall at the bottom estimate.

0:36:24 > 0:36:27I'm a bit nervous there.

0:36:32 > 0:36:37In Marlborough, Sheldon Cameron, our auctioneer, is back in action.

0:36:37 > 0:36:42He's been known to drive a hard bargain and says what he thinks.

0:36:42 > 0:36:47At ?28, the bid is against you. Blow the housekeeping, it's only money.

0:36:47 > 0:36:53He's gonna give us the lowdown on our owners' items and the estimates.

0:36:53 > 0:36:55First up is Doris's chair.

0:36:55 > 0:37:02Victorian nursing chair, around 1890 in date, 1895. It's an ideal weekend project for someone.

0:37:02 > 0:37:09In the condition it's in, I would have thought we'd get close to the estimate on it.

0:37:09 > 0:37:17The estimate's ?50 to ?80. It's not a bad chair. With some restoration work, it'll come up quite well.

0:37:17 > 0:37:22With pewter, the earlier stuff always had a touchmark on the bottom -

0:37:22 > 0:37:26a small, incised mark based on silver hallmarks.

0:37:26 > 0:37:29This, unfortunately, is not that old.

0:37:29 > 0:37:35We've got a good selection of coffee pots, teapots, the capstan inkwell, the tankard.

0:37:35 > 0:37:39Probably my favourite is this little tea canister.

0:37:39 > 0:37:44Initially, it would have been bound in something, possibly mahogany.

0:37:44 > 0:37:47Overall, a very nice and sizeable collection.

0:37:47 > 0:37:51I would have thought we'd get close to the bottom estimate.

0:37:51 > 0:37:54It's a very nice article. People do like them.

0:37:54 > 0:38:02But, unfortunately, again, it's an antique and fine art auction and it's not in that bracket.

0:38:02 > 0:38:09It's not old enough, it's not fine art. Decorative, yes. I think we could be a little stuck with it.

0:38:09 > 0:38:16Decorative pieces. They're pottery and transfer decorated with the royal coat of arms.

0:38:16 > 0:38:24Very nice indeed. Initially, I think would have been part of a larger dinner service and we only have six.

0:38:24 > 0:38:26With regard to collectability,

0:38:26 > 0:38:31anything that has a royal connection goes very, very well.

0:38:31 > 0:38:35There is some slight damage to them. Two or three have slight chips.

0:38:35 > 0:38:42But I would have thought they'd do quite well. Price-wise - around ?150 to ?200.

0:38:42 > 0:38:49Claret jugs are very, very popular. The glass one with the silver top has had someone's initials put on.

0:38:49 > 0:38:56That won't detract from it at all. It's a very nice ornament. That should make its money, if not more.

0:38:56 > 0:39:01And, finally, Brian's cast-iron bean slicer and mincer.

0:39:01 > 0:39:08They are not suitable for an antique and fine arts sale. I think the BBC's hospitality was too good for Philip.

0:39:08 > 0:39:14It's really not something we'd be prepared to sell. Nice as they are, functional as they are.

0:39:25 > 0:39:31I wonder how Brian's going to react to that. Does he think Sheldon's being fair?

0:39:31 > 0:39:36The kitchenalia has been given the heave-ho. Yeah. Disappointed?

0:39:36 > 0:39:43Yeah, I thought it might have gone. Yeah, Philip thought it'd sell well. However, Sheldon thinks not.

0:39:43 > 0:39:48He's put it through the mincer. You've been working on that.

0:39:48 > 0:39:55As the auction gets into full swing, what does Philip think about Sheldon's decision?

0:39:56 > 0:40:00So, the kitchenalia has been given the heave.

0:40:00 > 0:40:05I'm disappointed. I think it would have sold and sold quite well.

0:40:05 > 0:40:10It strikes me that, in an area like this, it would have fitted in well.

0:40:10 > 0:40:17Certainly, we put things like that through sales and they make quite good money. However, it's gone.

0:40:17 > 0:40:20The rest of it, overall, he seemed quite confident.

0:40:20 > 0:40:27The only thing I've got doubts about is the old horse. It's one of those quirky lots

0:40:27 > 0:40:35that if we ARE getting towards a recession, I don't think anybody NEEDS a toy horse. So we'll see.

0:40:35 > 0:40:39It's a packed house again and there's a real buzz about the place.

0:40:39 > 0:40:42Our owners are all hoping to get a good price.

0:40:42 > 0:40:47The first item to come under Sheldon's hammer is Doris's chair.

0:40:47 > 0:40:49Feeling confident? Fairly.

0:40:49 > 0:40:54?50-?80, you said, Philip? If a lady wants a project for reupholstery,

0:40:54 > 0:40:57we shouldn't have a problem.

0:40:57 > 0:41:02The Edwardian mahogany framed nursing chair, lot 35.

0:41:02 > 0:41:05How's the nerves? My heart's going! Terrible.

0:41:05 > 0:41:10Rather nice one. Needs restoration, but it is a fine specimen.

0:41:10 > 0:41:15Going to start with me at ?40. At ?40.

0:41:15 > 0:41:18Do I hear ?45? ?45.

0:41:18 > 0:41:20?48. Against you, madam.

0:41:20 > 0:41:23At ?50.

0:41:23 > 0:41:25Do I hear ?55 anywhere?

0:41:25 > 0:41:29At ?50 we'll finish that.

0:41:29 > 0:41:34?50 is the reserve price. Just about on your estimate.

0:41:34 > 0:41:39In a way, I'm a bit disappointed. I thought it had some potential.

0:41:39 > 0:41:46If people had seen that potential... It's a project. A chair like that, reupholstered, would look lovely.

0:41:46 > 0:41:54It's sold, so that's good. We got the reserve. ?50 is on the low side for that one. Someone got a bargain.

0:41:54 > 0:42:00At least it made its asking price and Doris does have another chance. Let's hope her horse comes in.

0:42:00 > 0:42:05James's pewter lot is next. But will anyone here take it off his hands?

0:42:05 > 0:42:10Feeling confident? Let's hope so. I think this will be a good one.

0:42:10 > 0:42:17..Thomas, ?200 to ?300? I'm quite confident. There's so much for people to choose from.

0:42:17 > 0:42:21It's the only way to sell a big collection like that - as one lot.

0:42:21 > 0:42:29Start with me at ?100. The bid is with me. ..Do I hear ?110? ?140...

0:42:29 > 0:42:33On to lot 202, the large collection of pewter.

0:42:33 > 0:42:38Large collection of pewter, including teapots, claret jug, flasks,

0:42:38 > 0:42:42inkwells, egg cups. A large selection.

0:42:43 > 0:42:48Lot 202. Start at ?80. ?80 at the start.

0:42:48 > 0:42:53Do I hear ?85 anywhere? With me, ladies and gentlemen.

0:42:53 > 0:42:56Surely worth ?85. ?85. ?90.

0:42:56 > 0:43:00Here we go. We're on our way. ?120.

0:43:00 > 0:43:02Do I hear ?130 now?

0:43:02 > 0:43:05At ?120.

0:43:05 > 0:43:09I thought it would have done more. Above the reserve...

0:43:09 > 0:43:13We sold it, ?120. Slightly below your valuation.

0:43:13 > 0:43:18Slightly below. But maybe there should have been a few more people.

0:43:18 > 0:43:24Quite pleased with that, though. I don't think we should be disappointed. Happy with ?120? Yeah.

0:43:27 > 0:43:31Maybe James is just glad he's not taking it home with him.

0:43:31 > 0:43:38However, he will have to pay the auctioneer's premium, which is usually 10%-15% of the sale price.

0:43:38 > 0:43:45Doris's horse has come a long way since she played with it as a child, but will it fall short today?

0:43:45 > 0:43:53You reckon ?60 to ?90 for this one. It'll make a nice present for some child, so keep everything crossed.

0:43:53 > 0:43:59There does seem to be some good buyers for the smaller stuff today, so let's hope we do well.

0:43:59 > 0:44:04Lot 186 is the Mobo 1950's horse.

0:44:04 > 0:44:06Lot 186.

0:44:06 > 0:44:13The Mobo horse. ?60 to ?90. Don't laugh now.

0:44:13 > 0:44:17At ?32, the bid is with me. Who's going on now? ?35. ?38.

0:44:17 > 0:44:20At ?42, with me.

0:44:20 > 0:44:23Strong bidding so far. ?48.

0:44:23 > 0:44:28At ?48, who's going on here? At ?48, we'll finish that...

0:44:28 > 0:44:30Very close to the reserve,

0:44:30 > 0:44:35but we haven't made it. We reserved it at ?50. Back in the stables.

0:44:35 > 0:44:41I suppose it's a case of horses for courses and the equine fraternity just didn't turn up today.

0:44:41 > 0:44:46Can we get on a winning streak with the Royal Doulton?

0:44:46 > 0:44:50We've got Carolyn here, owner of the nice set of Royal Doulton plates

0:44:50 > 0:44:54with the royal crest on the front of them.

0:44:54 > 0:44:58You reckoned ?200 to 300. ..Carolyn, you going to spend the money here,

0:44:58 > 0:45:04or is it spent already? It's spent here already. You've been buying? Yes.

0:45:08 > 0:45:13Lot 252, six Royal Doulton plates. Lot 252, the set of plates.

0:45:13 > 0:45:17They are rather nice ones.

0:45:17 > 0:45:21?160. ?160 then, the bid is with me.

0:45:21 > 0:45:24An opening bid now. 160. Do we have 170?

0:45:24 > 0:45:28At ?160. Do I hear ?170 at all?

0:45:28 > 0:45:33?160. At ?160, ladies and gentlemen, we'll finish that.

0:45:33 > 0:45:39?160. We've done it. Yes. Very pleased. ?160. Fantastic.

0:45:39 > 0:45:43Very relieved. Very. That's great. Lovely. Thank you.

0:45:43 > 0:45:50His kitchenalia is out, but Brian's claret jug is still in the running and it's last up today.

0:45:52 > 0:45:56We've got Brian. Remember we lost his mincer and the bean slicer.

0:45:56 > 0:46:01We've got your claret jug, silver topped. Should be good. I hope so.

0:46:01 > 0:46:04Sheldon's dead confident. Is he?

0:46:05 > 0:46:07Lot 35 is the...

0:46:07 > 0:46:13Victorian silver claret jug. Dated London, 1893.

0:46:13 > 0:46:18The lid's bearing the retailer stamp - 101 New Bond Street,

0:46:18 > 0:46:20which is now a firm of auctioneers.

0:46:20 > 0:46:25Surprise, surprise. Start with me at ?42.

0:46:25 > 0:46:29At ?42. ?45. ?48. ?50. ..?60.

0:46:29 > 0:46:33?60 with you. ?70. ?75. ?80. ?85. ?90.

0:46:33 > 0:46:37We're at ?90 already. Come on! Fantastic.

0:46:38 > 0:46:41At ?100. ..?120.

0:46:43 > 0:46:46At ?120 with you, sir. Anyone else?

0:46:46 > 0:46:48At ?120.

0:46:48 > 0:46:52Yes! Well done. Spot on there.

0:46:52 > 0:46:57Fabulous. Just shows you our experts DO know quite a lot.

0:46:57 > 0:47:04Another varied day. Some people were pleased with what they sold and some didn't sell anything.

0:47:04 > 0:47:08At least they now know how much their antiques are worth.

0:47:08 > 0:47:16A mixed day when her nursing chair went for the reserve price and her horse didn't sell at all.

0:47:19 > 0:47:23Michael is pleased with his profit on the John Varley watercolour

0:47:23 > 0:47:28even though it went for less than Thomas's valuation.

0:47:28 > 0:47:34James is happy to finally off-load his pewter collection, and for a good sum, too!

0:47:37 > 0:47:43Both Thomas and Carolyn are chuffed with the price she got for her plates.

0:47:43 > 0:47:49Someone got away lightly when they pocketed Tim's brooch for ?15.

0:47:50 > 0:47:57Ian thought Philip's estimate was a little high for his Disraeli and Gladstone penholders,

0:47:57 > 0:48:02but was proved wrong when he left the saleroom ?120 better off.

0:48:02 > 0:48:08Brian may be having words with Sheldon over his kitchenalia,

0:48:08 > 0:48:16but he'll also be taking ?120 home with him for his claret jug - minus the auctioneer's charges of course.

0:48:16 > 0:48:23Well, it's been a great day here in Marlborough. Our experts have done pretty well.

0:48:23 > 0:48:30Philip, you had two lots sold well over your estimates, one exactly on the button and only one lot unsold.

0:48:30 > 0:48:37We should have swapped it for these. Brian's here with his cast-iron kitchen implements.

0:48:37 > 0:48:42I'll sell them outside. Good luck. But your claret jug did very well.

0:48:42 > 0:48:45Dad will be pleased. It's his birthday today.

0:48:45 > 0:48:50He's been dead 11 years, but he'll be pleased. ..Won't you, Dad?

0:48:50 > 0:48:56And, Thomas, you got four lots sold, but all underneath your valuation.

0:48:56 > 0:49:01What happened? 100% record. I think that's quite good. All four sold.

0:49:01 > 0:49:05They sold on reserve or on discretion.

0:49:05 > 0:49:09It's a sign of the times, I feel. Going through a difficult patch.

0:49:09 > 0:49:16Also, mainly small items and the sale wasn't full of smalls buyers. Lots of furniture.

0:49:16 > 0:49:21Absolutely right. Furniture did very well, but smalls not quite so well.

0:49:21 > 0:49:25Tim, your 5p brooch - 15 quid. Happy with that? Yeah.

0:49:25 > 0:49:31I'm more upset I haven't bought anything. Not enough money? Probably not.

0:49:31 > 0:49:35Auctions are always full of surprises.

0:49:35 > 0:49:40Experts can't be right all the time and sometimes they get it wrong.

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0:49:46 > 0:49:49He's doubting you. He's not on his own.

0:49:49 > 0:49:52Well done. Spot on there.

0:49:52 > 0:49:57Just shows you - our experts DO know quite a lot.

0:50:12 > 0:50:18Subtitles by Dermot Fitzsimons and Mary Easton BBC Broadcast - 2002