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0:00:05 > 0:00:08Walking on the decks of this historic ship, HMS Warrior,

0:00:08 > 0:00:11you are literally transported back in time to the world

0:00:11 > 0:00:14of the Victorian sailor where you can see hundreds of men

0:00:14 > 0:00:16handling the yarn, rigging and the sails,

0:00:16 > 0:00:19ready to fire a shot at the enemy on the fighting deck here.

0:00:20 > 0:00:23Well, there's a totally different crew on board today,

0:00:23 > 0:00:25but they do have their work cut out.

0:00:25 > 0:00:27Welcome to Flog It!

0:00:47 > 0:00:50When Queen Victoria came to the throne

0:00:50 > 0:00:51Britannia commanded the seas,

0:00:51 > 0:00:54its mighty fleet had defeated the French

0:00:54 > 0:00:56and the Royal Navy acted as world policeman.

0:00:56 > 0:00:59But her fleet of wooden ships were becoming outdated.

0:00:59 > 0:01:02Design needed to progress to keep up with the French.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10A ship clad in iron was commissioned, HMS Warrior was born.

0:01:11 > 0:01:13The fastest, the largest and strongest ship

0:01:13 > 0:01:15in the world at the time.

0:01:18 > 0:01:21Today she rests in the Portsmouth Historic Dockyard

0:01:21 > 0:01:24and will be our host for a rather special valuation day.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30Cheese!

0:01:30 > 0:01:33Flog It! first visited Portsmouth a good six years ago,

0:01:33 > 0:01:37back in series five. Tell you what, we found so much booty back then

0:01:37 > 0:01:40we decided to come back! And look at the weather, we're blessed with it.

0:01:40 > 0:01:42- Summer frocks are on. Hello, everyone!- Hello!

0:01:42 > 0:01:44- What have you got in there? - Sandwiches.

0:01:44 > 0:01:47Sandwiches. Good luck with that. That's 80 to 120, isn't it?

0:01:47 > 0:01:48What are they? Cheese and pickle?

0:01:48 > 0:01:51- Yes!- That was a good guess, wasn't it? What have you brought along?

0:01:51 > 0:01:54- My ginger jar.- Ginger jar. Well, good luck with that.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57You see, it doesn't matter what you brought along, you could be

0:01:57 > 0:01:59one of the lucky ones going through to auction later on

0:01:59 > 0:02:02and earning a small fortune. I know what this lot are here for,

0:02:02 > 0:02:05to ask our experts that all-important question, which is...

0:02:05 > 0:02:06CROWD: What's it worth?

0:02:06 > 0:02:09And if you're happy with the valuation, what are you going to do?

0:02:09 > 0:02:10Flog it!

0:02:10 > 0:02:13Already walking the plank are our experts

0:02:13 > 0:02:16Will Axon and Michael Baggott.

0:02:16 > 0:02:17Like true trawlermen,

0:02:17 > 0:02:20they're straight into the queue fishing for treasure.

0:02:20 > 0:02:23- Nice collection, isn't it? - Yes, lovely bright colours.

0:02:23 > 0:02:27- I got a print from Nelson in the Battle of the Nile.- Oh, yes.

0:02:27 > 0:02:30And it looks like they've found their first items.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34- Are they things that you're thinking of putting into auction?- Yes.

0:02:34 > 0:02:37- Something you might want to flog today?- Depending on price.

0:02:37 > 0:02:41It's all aboard HMS Warrior for a day of antiques and auctions.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44Here's what we've got coming up on today's show.

0:02:46 > 0:02:49HMS Warrior has sailed the seven seas

0:02:49 > 0:02:52so today's show has a truly international flavour.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55From Mexico, candlesticks made from ancient stone.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59Made in Germany, the goddess of hunting, Diana,

0:02:59 > 0:03:01a beautiful and fearsome woman.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06And from France, the top name in bronze.

0:03:06 > 0:03:09Which will make the most at auction today?

0:03:09 > 0:03:10130, 140...

0:03:16 > 0:03:18We're going to have a marvellous day.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20The sun is shining, everyone body is smiling

0:03:20 > 0:03:23and it looks like Michael Baggett has spotted a real gem down there.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25A pair of Chinese vases.

0:03:25 > 0:03:27Let's take a closer look at what he's talking about.

0:03:29 > 0:03:33Ruth, I spotted you in the queue with these marvellous vases.

0:03:33 > 0:03:37- Can you tell me, where did they come from?- They were my grandmother's.

0:03:37 > 0:03:40I think they might have been a wedding present.

0:03:40 > 0:03:43She was married in June 1929.

0:03:43 > 0:03:44Did she have them out on display?

0:03:44 > 0:03:47As a child I remember them being out

0:03:47 > 0:03:50and she had a big pampas grass in them.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52I know the ones,...

0:03:52 > 0:03:55Yes, and obviously when she passed away they passed to me

0:03:55 > 0:03:56and I don't really use them.

0:03:56 > 0:03:59They're just stuck behind a door and it's a shame, really.

0:03:59 > 0:04:02- They're door stops at the moment? - Sort of!- Well, they are heavy enough!

0:04:02 > 0:04:04They are.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07They have the signs that we look for in the trade of private ownership.

0:04:07 > 0:04:11- Right.- Continuous private ownership. Do you know what that sign is?- No.

0:04:11 > 0:04:13It's specks of white emulsion.

0:04:13 > 0:04:15- Ah!- All over them!

0:04:15 > 0:04:16SHE GIGGLES

0:04:16 > 0:04:18Because people never used to cover up,

0:04:18 > 0:04:21- they just used to do the painting and you get splatters.- Yes, you do.

0:04:21 > 0:04:24- They scream Chinese.- Right.

0:04:24 > 0:04:29- But very, very early form of Chinese vessel.- Right.

0:04:29 > 0:04:34This shape would date back possibly 2,500 or 3,000 years.

0:04:34 > 0:04:38What we've got here is we've got cloisonne decoration

0:04:38 > 0:04:42and there are two ways that you can put enamelling into a metal surface.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44Champleve and cloisonne.

0:04:44 > 0:04:49Cloisonne is basically where you make wires in the body,

0:04:49 > 0:04:51- either through inset or through casting.- Right.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53And then you'll fill it with powdered glass

0:04:53 > 0:04:55and you'll fire it

0:04:55 > 0:04:59and the glass will vitrify and melt and form a surface.

0:04:59 > 0:05:00But you can't do it all at once

0:05:00 > 0:05:04and you have two build up the different colours

0:05:04 > 0:05:07and then when it actually comes over the surface,

0:05:07 > 0:05:09the decoration, then you rub it back.

0:05:09 > 0:05:14Often, in this case, these are quite moderate quality.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17You get little holes, all left.

0:05:17 > 0:05:20If you have a look all in the enamel, little pockmarks where

0:05:20 > 0:05:24the glass hasn't quite filled up and they've still smoothed it off.

0:05:24 > 0:05:26Oh, I see.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29There was a great revival of Chinese style in the West

0:05:29 > 0:05:31in the 1680s,

0:05:31 > 0:05:33then again in 1750,

0:05:33 > 0:05:34then again in 1820,

0:05:34 > 0:05:37and then at the end of the 19th-century.

0:05:37 > 0:05:42These are end of the 19th-century. They're about 1870.

0:05:42 > 0:05:44- Really!- Up to about 1900.

0:05:44 > 0:05:47Oh, I didn't think they'd be that old.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50Really you date them by the quality

0:05:50 > 0:05:53and also by the colour of the bronze because they are cast bronze.

0:05:53 > 0:05:57You've got these little zoomorphic handles.

0:05:57 > 0:05:59Yes, I do like the handles, I must admit.

0:05:59 > 0:06:02- They're quite characterful, aren't they?- Yes, they are.

0:06:02 > 0:06:06- And again, they are copied from archaic Chinese bronze vessels.- OK.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09What they are is a nice, large, decorative pair.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12- Any ideas of the value? - I've absolutely no idea.

0:06:12 > 0:06:15I mean, Chinese things are going through the roof at the moment

0:06:15 > 0:06:17but the things that the Chinese want to buy back

0:06:17 > 0:06:20are Imperial quality, made for their own market.

0:06:20 > 0:06:25- These are very much for export and its poor quality.- No, that's fine.

0:06:25 > 0:06:30- Let's be cautious and say £80-£120. - OK.

0:06:30 > 0:06:33- And let's put a fixed reserve of £70 on them.- Right.

0:06:33 > 0:06:36- They won't go for any less than that.- Right.

0:06:36 > 0:06:39- So, thank you very much for bringing them in.- No problem.

0:06:39 > 0:06:41I always like to see a bit of cloisonne.

0:06:41 > 0:06:44It gives me my chance to say the process of cloisonne

0:06:44 > 0:06:46which is amazingly fascinating.

0:06:46 > 0:06:50- I'm sure we'll get them away at the sale for you. - Excellent, thank you very much.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53Michael Baggott with a masterclass in cloisonne.

0:06:53 > 0:06:57And now to a very special piece of bronze made by a very special man.

0:06:59 > 0:07:01- So, Sandy, tell me, are you a dog lover?- I am.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03Yes, I'm an animal lover.

0:07:03 > 0:07:05I love them dogs, I think they're beautiful, they really are.

0:07:05 > 0:07:08Is that what drew you originally to the sculpture?

0:07:08 > 0:07:11It was my father's originally. He left them to me.

0:07:11 > 0:07:14Was your father a keen collector, was he?

0:07:14 > 0:07:16Yes, he used to collect lots of bits and pieces.

0:07:16 > 0:07:19He used to go to jumble sales and charity shops.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21OK, that's always a good start.

0:07:21 > 0:07:25- And it's rubbed off on you, has it? - Yes, because I'm now doing it!

0:07:25 > 0:07:26Are you?

0:07:26 > 0:07:28So, you've obviously done a bit of research,

0:07:28 > 0:07:30I would have thought, on a piece like this.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33Of course, nowadays, with our access to the World Wide Web

0:07:33 > 0:07:37and so on, it's very easy to be a bit of an armchair detective.

0:07:37 > 0:07:40It's easy, as well, when they put their name in the base, isn't it?

0:07:40 > 0:07:44- PJ Mene.- Pierre Jules Mene. - Exactly right.

0:07:44 > 0:07:48Yes, born 1810 in France, Paris, lived until 1877.

0:07:48 > 0:07:51And I would pretty much say that without doubt,

0:07:51 > 0:07:56he was the most successful animalier bronze producer of his time,

0:07:56 > 0:07:57if not, ever.

0:07:57 > 0:08:01Because, he was a man who was quite happy to be down the foundry

0:08:01 > 0:08:04sleeves rolled up, apron on, getting his hands dirty,

0:08:04 > 0:08:07producing the bronzes that he would then

0:08:07 > 0:08:10sell on to the French aristocracy.

0:08:10 > 0:08:12And he would be just as comfortable, shall we say,

0:08:12 > 0:08:14schmoozing his clients as he would be with working

0:08:14 > 0:08:18with the lads in the foundry, getting his hands dirty.

0:08:18 > 0:08:20This has been made from a mould.

0:08:20 > 0:08:23- You make the bronze and the mould still exists, doesn't it?- Yes.

0:08:23 > 0:08:27So, when Mene died in 1877,

0:08:27 > 0:08:29the moulds of the bronzes were passed on to his son,

0:08:29 > 0:08:33and of course, that meant he could keep producing the bronzes.

0:08:33 > 0:08:37But, you wouldn't say it was by Mene necessarily

0:08:37 > 0:08:39because it wasn't in his lifetime.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41So, you got to be a bit careful that even though

0:08:41 > 0:08:44it is signed Mene, that's signed in the actual mould itself,

0:08:44 > 0:08:46rather than it being produced in his lifetime,

0:08:46 > 0:08:50with him actually having handled it, checked over the quality,

0:08:50 > 0:08:53cos he would have done that with every single bronze that left.

0:08:53 > 0:08:56A lot of the time when you get later cast examples,

0:08:56 > 0:08:58which are using the same moulds,

0:08:58 > 0:09:00but are cast with perhaps not quite as much care

0:09:00 > 0:09:02and attention to detail,

0:09:02 > 0:09:05you lose the definition, whereas here,

0:09:05 > 0:09:09you've got real character, haven't you, on the faces of these dogs.

0:09:09 > 0:09:11You've got on the later examples, this line here,

0:09:11 > 0:09:15the crispness of the base, you lose a bit of that definition.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17As soon as that starts going a bit wavy

0:09:17 > 0:09:19or it's not quite parallel or true,

0:09:19 > 0:09:21you've got to be a bit suspicious.

0:09:21 > 0:09:24So, again, handy hint for people at home who maybe are buying bronzes

0:09:24 > 0:09:28because they are easy to reproduce, that's the danger, you see.

0:09:28 > 0:09:30And, underneath of course, you want to see this.

0:09:30 > 0:09:33You want to see, these haven't been off in years, have they?

0:09:33 > 0:09:34No, they're all original.

0:09:34 > 0:09:37That's exactly what you want to see so I think this is probably

0:09:37 > 0:09:40produced towards the end of his lifetime,

0:09:40 > 0:09:43maybe even into the late 19th century, early 20th century.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46But I'm telling you, it's still a nice example, isn't it?

0:09:46 > 0:09:47It is, it's beautiful.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49You're selling it to maybe buy something else, you said?

0:09:49 > 0:09:52- Yes.- There might be something at the auction.

0:09:52 > 0:09:53- There might be!- You never know.

0:09:53 > 0:09:56We'll have to make sure this goes in for something you want to buy.

0:09:56 > 0:09:58Yes, so I don't start looking round, that's right!

0:09:58 > 0:10:00Now were talking about selling and buying,

0:10:00 > 0:10:03- what do you think it's worth? Have you got an idea in your mind?- Yes.

0:10:03 > 0:10:07It's got to be worth over £150, I would reckon.

0:10:07 > 0:10:10- I would agree with you.- I would reckon.- I would agree with.

0:10:10 > 0:10:13If we were definite that this was within his lifetime

0:10:13 > 0:10:15and he'd handled it and so on,

0:10:15 > 0:10:18I would have said the value would have been in the high hundreds,

0:10:18 > 0:10:21but I think because I'm erring on the side of caution

0:10:21 > 0:10:23that it might be a later model,

0:10:23 > 0:10:25I'm happy to try it at sort of 200 to 300.

0:10:25 > 0:10:29Yes, because I wouldn't sell it for less than £150, I don't think.

0:10:29 > 0:10:31Do you want to put the reserve at, say, £180?

0:10:31 > 0:10:33- Yes, 180.- 180? Yes.

0:10:33 > 0:10:36I don't think your going to have any trouble seeing it away because...

0:10:36 > 0:10:39- I shouldn't think so because...- Good subject, good name, nice quality.

0:10:39 > 0:10:43- It is.- You ticked all my boxes, Sandy. See you at the saleroom!

0:10:43 > 0:10:45- Thank you very much.- Not at all. - That's great, thank you.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48We'll have to wait and see how much that dog is worth in the auction.

0:10:48 > 0:10:51We've been holding valuation days for over ten years now.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54We've seen everything, from aeroplane propellers

0:10:54 > 0:10:57to Beatles memorabilia,

0:10:57 > 0:11:00so let's see what is popular with the people of Portsmouth.

0:11:00 > 0:11:04- A nice old Toby jug.- Yes. He's musical.- Great!

0:11:04 > 0:11:06A design, really, to put a smile on your face because

0:11:06 > 0:11:09they're caricatures of local politicians,

0:11:09 > 0:11:12local policeman that you'd want to ridicule and have a go at.

0:11:12 > 0:11:16Hands up who else has got a Toby jug then, or something like a Toby jug?

0:11:16 > 0:11:18Look at that, one, two, three...

0:11:18 > 0:11:22You can always guarantee a few Toby jugs, can't you?

0:11:22 > 0:11:23Michael's gone ashore

0:11:23 > 0:11:25and it looks like he's found something rather special.

0:11:27 > 0:11:30Christopher, thank you for bringing along this most extraordinary

0:11:30 > 0:11:34pair of candlesticks. I'm sure there's a story behind them.

0:11:34 > 0:11:37Can you tell me what you know about them and where you got them from?

0:11:37 > 0:11:42Yes, they came from the consul general in Guatemala City.

0:11:42 > 0:11:47He was consul general from 1957 to 1960

0:11:47 > 0:11:51and he was a friend of the family and they were given as a gift.

0:11:51 > 0:11:56They are set in sterling standard silver and the stone actually

0:11:56 > 0:12:01- comes from the temple of the snake god at Chichen Itza.- Good grief!

0:12:01 > 0:12:05And they are in the form of the entrance to Chichen Itza.

0:12:06 > 0:12:12Good Lord. So, the stone itself is 500, 600, 700-years-old.

0:12:12 > 0:12:18- Must be, yes.- And yet, what they've done is rather strange to us.

0:12:18 > 0:12:21They've taken fragments of the ruins,

0:12:21 > 0:12:25- which, of course, you can't do these days!- Well, no, no!

0:12:25 > 0:12:28And they've fashioned into these most extraordinary candlesticks.

0:12:28 > 0:12:32There is a fashion for silver working

0:12:32 > 0:12:38in this sort of Mayan, Aztec, sort of native South American style.

0:12:38 > 0:12:40I think it really started in Mexico,

0:12:40 > 0:12:45the Taxco company and Hector Aguilar.

0:12:45 > 0:12:49- They were basically working in the '20s, '30s and '40s.- Right.

0:12:49 > 0:12:53I just think it's the sheer innovation of taking

0:12:53 > 0:12:55basically an archaeological fragment

0:12:55 > 0:12:59and turning it into something modern and useful.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02They are super. If we turn them over, they are marked sterling,

0:13:02 > 0:13:06they have the little Mexican symbol on for sterling silver

0:13:06 > 0:13:10- and the 925 mark and they're rather spectacular.- Yes.

0:13:10 > 0:13:12And I daresay, it's not a word I use often,

0:13:12 > 0:13:16but they're quite funky and they would go into, I think,

0:13:16 > 0:13:20many modern interiors and set it off an absolute treat.

0:13:20 > 0:13:25- They were an 18th birthday present to you?- Yes. That was 1962.

0:13:25 > 0:13:28Giving away your age now! I know, yes.

0:13:28 > 0:13:30Why have you decided to sell them now?

0:13:30 > 0:13:32Well, I am now in a very small flat.

0:13:32 > 0:13:36I've got loads of other things, silver, china

0:13:36 > 0:13:39and there's only so much you can keep in one small space.

0:13:39 > 0:13:41Absolutely, absolutely.

0:13:41 > 0:13:43Well, I think they're so unusual

0:13:43 > 0:13:45is quite difficult for me to value them.

0:13:45 > 0:13:50You know, people will either love them or they won't understand them.

0:13:50 > 0:13:52So, we have to appreciate that.

0:13:52 > 0:13:56I think what we'll do is put a fixed reserve of £150 on them.

0:13:56 > 0:14:02- Right.- But I think, let's put a wider estimate on and say £200-£400.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04And hopefully get the top of that estimate?

0:14:04 > 0:14:08Hopefully get the top end, but I still think £150 would be fair

0:14:08 > 0:14:11on a quiet day, but let's just place it so that the market decides.

0:14:11 > 0:14:14Yes, a come-and-get-me sort of thing.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16Run-and-get-me, hopefully, at the auction

0:14:16 > 0:14:18and hopefully there will be several of them.

0:14:18 > 0:14:22Thank you for bringing along something that is unique to me,

0:14:22 > 0:14:24I've not seen the like before

0:14:24 > 0:14:27and I'm sure the people at the auction will be equally delighted.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30- Excellent.- And hopefully bidding! - I hope so!

0:14:30 > 0:14:32- Thank you very much indeed. - Thank you.

0:14:37 > 0:14:40Before we head off to auction for the very first time in today's show,

0:14:40 > 0:14:43I want to show you these, the wheels that steer the Warrior.

0:14:43 > 0:14:45Look at them! They're huge, aren't they?

0:14:45 > 0:14:48There's enough space between these for them to be manned by eight men

0:14:48 > 0:14:53and in extremely rough conditions, they'd be teamed by 16 men,

0:14:53 > 0:14:56all struggling to keep this vessel in a straight line.

0:14:56 > 0:15:00To give you an idea of the strength needed to turn these wheels

0:15:00 > 0:15:02which wound the rope to turn the rudder,

0:15:02 > 0:15:06you had to revolve these wheels six complete revolutions

0:15:06 > 0:15:10in order to turn the ship from midships to hard to starboard.

0:15:10 > 0:15:14But, right now, we have to navigate our way across to the sale room

0:15:14 > 0:15:16and here's what we're taking with us.

0:15:18 > 0:15:21Ruth's Chinese vases are a good example of cloisonne work

0:15:21 > 0:15:24but will anyone like the look of them in the auction room?

0:15:24 > 0:15:29PJ Mene is the name to remember in bronze but will these greyhounds

0:15:29 > 0:15:32be quick out of the starter's block in the sale?

0:15:32 > 0:15:34And these candlesticks are so unusual,

0:15:34 > 0:15:37they are very difficult to value.

0:15:38 > 0:15:41We are leaving the busy dockyards of Portsmouth

0:15:41 > 0:15:43to head north for today's auction.

0:15:46 > 0:15:50And this is where we're putting all of our items to the test today,

0:15:50 > 0:15:52Andrew Smith & Son auction rooms in the heart of Hampshire.

0:15:52 > 0:15:54A little village called Itchen Stoke.

0:15:54 > 0:15:58I tell you what, this barn is absolutely full of gems.

0:15:58 > 0:16:01It's got all the ingredients of a classic sale today.

0:16:01 > 0:16:03And we have two auctioneers on the rostrum,

0:16:03 > 0:16:05Andrew Smith and Nick Jarrett.

0:16:05 > 0:16:08At auction buyers and sellers both pay commission.

0:16:08 > 0:16:11Today it's 15% for our sellers.

0:16:11 > 0:16:12But now, our first lot.

0:16:15 > 0:16:17This is a first on Flog It!, that's for sure.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19We don't get that many Mexican things actually.

0:16:19 > 0:16:22- They are quite unusual. - They are very, very unusual.

0:16:22 > 0:16:25I know they took your eye. Beautifully worked.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28At first, I'll be honest, at first I didn't like them at all.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32I really didn't. They were very unusual and I thought I'd film them.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34By the time we'd finished, I thought they were lovely.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36Interestingly enough, I said to the auction room,

0:16:36 > 0:16:40"Have you sold many Mexican things before, artefacts or works of art?"

0:16:40 > 0:16:42They said, "Actually, something came to mind!

0:16:42 > 0:16:46"We sold a sombrero a few years ago for £200 to somebody locally!"

0:16:46 > 0:16:48So maybe that person who lives locally

0:16:48 > 0:16:51who spent £200 on a sombrero would like a pair of candlesticks.

0:16:51 > 0:16:54I suppose if the sombrero goes on a peg in the middle,

0:16:54 > 0:16:55the candlesticks go either side.

0:16:55 > 0:16:58- Worth a lot more than a sombrero, put it that way.- I hope so!

0:16:58 > 0:17:00Let's find out what the bidder's think.

0:17:00 > 0:17:06Lot 275, the sterling silver and carved stone snake god candlesticks.

0:17:06 > 0:17:09These are terrific, have you seen them? Lovely style to them.

0:17:09 > 0:17:13Possibility that the stone is actually antique, from a temple.

0:17:13 > 0:17:15I've got several bids.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18I'm going to start you hear at £110.

0:17:18 > 0:17:20120 can I say?

0:17:20 > 0:17:22At 110, 120 is it?

0:17:22 > 0:17:25£110, 120,

0:17:25 > 0:17:29130, 140, 150?

0:17:29 > 0:17:31£140, 150 can I say?

0:17:31 > 0:17:33150, 160?

0:17:33 > 0:17:36£150. On the side here at 150.

0:17:36 > 0:17:38Selling, make no mistake, at £150.

0:17:38 > 0:17:41I don't think they're expensive at this level either.

0:17:41 > 0:17:44At £150, all done? At £150, are you done?

0:17:46 > 0:17:49Sold at £150. That is auctions for you.

0:17:49 > 0:17:51You win some, you lose some, but in this case we didn't lose,

0:17:51 > 0:17:53- we got it away... - Absolutely.- ..on the reserve,

0:17:53 > 0:17:55- which is the main thing.- Excellent.

0:17:55 > 0:17:57At least they're out of the cupboard,

0:17:57 > 0:17:58they'll be used by someone.

0:17:58 > 0:18:02As long as we haven't angered the snake god, I'm fine with that!

0:18:02 > 0:18:06From Mexico to China.

0:18:06 > 0:18:08Well, a touch of the Orient comes to the south coast now

0:18:08 > 0:18:11with a pair of Chinese bronze vases belonging to Ruth.

0:18:11 > 0:18:14They're about to go under the hammer with a value of around £80-£120.

0:18:14 > 0:18:16Why have you decided to sell them now?

0:18:16 > 0:18:19- Well, they just sat around not doing anything.- Doing nothing.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21What did your grandmother put in them?

0:18:21 > 0:18:24- There was huge, do you remember those huge feathers?- Yes.

0:18:24 > 0:18:27- I suppose sort of '70s, late '70s. - I know the ones.

0:18:27 > 0:18:30Furry sort of things, bright colours.

0:18:30 > 0:18:32Which is a good look, really!

0:18:32 > 0:18:35- It is for an interior designer. - Let's see what they make, shall we?

0:18:35 > 0:18:38It's worth a try, isn't it? Here we go, let's find out what the bidders think.

0:18:38 > 0:18:43Lot 540, the Chinese copper and champleve vases.

0:18:43 > 0:18:45Good vases, these. Where are you going to start me for them?

0:18:45 > 0:18:48£50? £50 then, surely?

0:18:48 > 0:18:50£50 I have. And five?

0:18:50 > 0:18:5155, 60, five, 70?

0:18:51 > 0:18:53At £65.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56- Oh, we need a bit more than that. - At £65?- We do, I'm afraid.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58At £65?

0:18:58 > 0:19:0070, can I say? At £65? No?

0:19:00 > 0:19:02At £65, we're going on.

0:19:02 > 0:19:05Maybe they needed the feathers in them.

0:19:05 > 0:19:0765 then, all done.

0:19:07 > 0:19:09- Not sold, I'm afraid. - Sorry about that.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12- Oh! Never mind.- Look on the bright side, it's not a chest of drawers,

0:19:12 > 0:19:14- you don't have to lug that home, do you?- No!

0:19:14 > 0:19:17- At least they go on the back seat of the car.- That's right, yes.

0:19:19 > 0:19:21Today wasn't the day for Kim so

0:19:21 > 0:19:24she's decided to put them back into auction in a couple of month's time.

0:19:27 > 0:19:29Who let the dogs out? That's what I want to know.

0:19:29 > 0:19:31There's lots running around here and Sandy,

0:19:31 > 0:19:35you are just about to sell your bronze sculpture of a greyhound.

0:19:35 > 0:19:38- You are a dog lover. - I'm a cat lover more.

0:19:38 > 0:19:40- That's why you're selling your bronze!- But I do like dogs!- Do you?

0:19:40 > 0:19:42- I love everything.- Have you checked

0:19:42 > 0:19:45the ones running around here? They're all over the place!

0:19:45 > 0:19:46They certainly are!

0:19:46 > 0:19:49Wonderful casting anyway. I like this bronze greyhound.

0:19:49 > 0:19:51- It's lovely, isn't it?- Yes. - I think it's wonderful.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53And you're a bit of a collector, aren't you?

0:19:53 > 0:19:56- You want to do a bit of dealing. - Yes.- Good for you!

0:19:56 > 0:19:59- I go to antiques fairs and things. - It's great fun, isn't it?

0:19:59 > 0:20:01- It really is good fun.- It is.

0:20:01 > 0:20:03It's just good to get out there.

0:20:03 > 0:20:06Good luck with that. Let's see what we can do for you, shall we?

0:20:06 > 0:20:07Fingers crossed here we go.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11Lot 500, the bronze group of the greyhound and puppy.

0:20:11 > 0:20:13Quality piece.

0:20:13 > 0:20:17- It is a quality piece.- And I've got to start you at 140.

0:20:17 > 0:20:20150, can I say? 140 with me.

0:20:20 > 0:20:25150, is it? 140, here, 150, 160.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28- Good, we've got some interest in the room.- 170 anywhere?

0:20:28 > 0:20:30The chap over there against the wall is bidding quite heavily.

0:20:30 > 0:20:32180?

0:20:32 > 0:20:34- He's going to try...- Oh, good.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37- 190.- He's going to get it for 190.

0:20:37 > 0:20:39190, I have, are you sure?

0:20:39 > 0:20:43- I wanted more.- Well, so did I. - We all want more!

0:20:43 > 0:20:46190, think that is it. At £190, are we done?

0:20:46 > 0:20:51- Yes. It is gone. - I think he got a good deal there.

0:20:51 > 0:20:52I think he did, too.

0:20:52 > 0:20:56We caught up with the new owner of the bronze to find out what

0:20:56 > 0:20:57inspired him to buy it.

0:20:57 > 0:21:00I bought it because we have a greyhound, a rescue greyhound

0:21:00 > 0:21:04and we've got one little bronze, we thought another bronze would be a lovely thing to buy.

0:21:04 > 0:21:08And so it fits in really well with our little collection.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11It's good to know the greyhounds will be well looked after in their new home.

0:21:11 > 0:21:14Well, that is it for our first three items in today's show,

0:21:14 > 0:21:18so join me on a journey into the nearby New Forest, where we discover

0:21:18 > 0:21:22its history, through the eyes of the very important inhabitants.

0:21:29 > 0:21:32They are known by some as the architects of the New Forest,

0:21:32 > 0:21:34and they have been wandering the woodlands

0:21:34 > 0:21:36and heaths for thousands of years.

0:21:36 > 0:21:38They are no taller than 147 centimetres

0:21:38 > 0:21:41and you do not want to stand too close to their behinds,

0:21:41 > 0:21:44as they have got a rather powerful kick.

0:21:44 > 0:21:46They are, of course, New Forest ponies.

0:21:46 > 0:21:47NEIGHING

0:21:49 > 0:21:52The New Forest has recently been designated a National Park

0:21:52 > 0:21:55and it is home to an abundance of British wildlife.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58But the star attraction for many thousands of visitors each year

0:21:58 > 0:22:02has to be the New Forest ponies.

0:22:02 > 0:22:04The breed have been here for centuries,

0:22:04 > 0:22:05and it is really down to their intelligence

0:22:05 > 0:22:10and strength that they are able to survive the harsh winters.

0:22:10 > 0:22:11But as we are just about to find out,

0:22:11 > 0:22:15today, their main threat isn't environmental.

0:22:15 > 0:22:18It is economical and social, brought about by man.

0:22:31 > 0:22:33Already on my little walk this morning,

0:22:33 > 0:22:35I have heard cuckoos, I've seen rabbits and deer,

0:22:35 > 0:22:39but this is a sight to behold, look at that mother with her foal.

0:22:39 > 0:22:44There are some 4,500 ponies happily munching their way through the Forest.

0:22:44 > 0:22:46And the relationship between the ponies

0:22:46 > 0:22:48and the land is interdependent.

0:22:48 > 0:22:51Obviously, they need to graze for survival, but the land

0:22:51 > 0:22:53needs them, because otherwise it wouldn't look like this.

0:22:53 > 0:22:55It would be overgrown.

0:22:57 > 0:23:00They may appear to be roaming around wild, just doing their own thing

0:23:00 > 0:23:03but they're not, they are owned and managed by Commoners,

0:23:03 > 0:23:07who have the right to graze their ponies here on the New Forest.

0:23:07 > 0:23:11Those rights and traditions were written a very long time ago.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15The tale of Commoners' rights, starts, as so do many,

0:23:15 > 0:23:18with William the First or William the Conqueror.

0:23:18 > 0:23:24He claimed the vast rural area in the south as his royal forest and deer hunting ground.

0:23:24 > 0:23:27And he did so at the expense of many villages that were pulled down

0:23:27 > 0:23:33to make way for a new, single compact area known as Nova Foresta.

0:23:36 > 0:23:38Many of the local population lost their homes

0:23:38 > 0:23:42and ability to make a living from the Forest.

0:23:43 > 0:23:45Later as the somewhat small compensation,

0:23:45 > 0:23:48the Crown offered the local people are a number of rights,

0:23:48 > 0:23:51the main one was they could graze their ponies and cattle

0:23:51 > 0:23:56on the land and secondly, they could dig clay and also cut peat for fuel.

0:23:59 > 0:24:02900 years later, and many of these rights are no longer exercised,

0:24:02 > 0:24:06but the entitlement to turn ponies out on to the Forest is

0:24:06 > 0:24:09keenly upheld by Commoners like Jonathan Gerelli,

0:24:09 > 0:24:11who is here to tell me about those rights.

0:24:13 > 0:24:17- The right doesn't go with the person, it goes with his property.- Oh, I see.

0:24:17 > 0:24:23So you need own or occupy, so rent etc, land which has Forest rights.

0:24:23 > 0:24:25The right you need is the right of pasture.

0:24:25 > 0:24:29The Commoners really turn the stock out on to the Forest.

0:24:29 > 0:24:32It helps supplement their income, that is the traditional thing.

0:24:32 > 0:24:34Of course, these days, there is virtually no money to be

0:24:34 > 0:24:38made in keeping of ponies and it is really very much done as a tradition.

0:24:38 > 0:24:41A tradition that is passed down through the generations.

0:24:41 > 0:24:45How do manage them? What exactly do you do? How do you look after them?

0:24:45 > 0:24:48Yes, that is thing. When you put your animals out in the Forest,

0:24:48 > 0:24:51there is nothing to stop them wandering from one end to the other.

0:24:51 > 0:24:52But they don't tend to do that.

0:24:52 > 0:24:56They tend to stay in a particular area and we call that

0:24:56 > 0:24:59in the Forest, a halt.

0:24:59 > 0:25:02Every individual pony is branded, it carries the owner's individual mark.

0:25:02 > 0:25:04We tend to have the foals.

0:25:04 > 0:25:06Some we sell as foals, some we keep on as a young stock.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08They make absolutely super riding ponies.

0:25:08 > 0:25:10Hardy little things, aren't they?

0:25:10 > 0:25:14The big selling point of the Forest ponies is they have marvellous temperaments.

0:25:14 > 0:25:16Well, it's so laid back here, isn't it, like the owners!

0:25:16 > 0:25:21- Look at this, it is beautiful. - We are so lucky to live in this area.

0:25:21 > 0:25:23You do sometimes take it for granted

0:25:23 > 0:25:26and every now and again, it's a beautiful morning and you think,

0:25:26 > 0:25:28God, I am lucky to be here.

0:25:33 > 0:25:37The common of pasture tradition itself has changed very little,

0:25:37 > 0:25:40and although there are people like Jonathan keeping the practice alive,

0:25:40 > 0:25:44there are also threats to its survival.

0:25:44 > 0:25:48There are some 500 properties with rights of common in the Forest

0:25:48 > 0:25:52and they are often end highly sought after locations,

0:25:52 > 0:25:54and therefore, very expensive.

0:25:54 > 0:25:57This has meant the next generation of local people

0:25:57 > 0:26:00with an interest in the Forest have been priced out of the market.

0:26:01 > 0:26:05Here in Burley, for example, two-thirds of the houses with common

0:26:05 > 0:26:09rights are second homes or part-time homes, and the residents aren't

0:26:09 > 0:26:13too keen on taking up the challenge of putting animals out to pasture.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16As well as being a Commoner, Jonathan his agister

0:26:16 > 0:26:18for the Forestry Commission,

0:26:18 > 0:26:21and knows only too well the impact man has on the Forest.

0:26:24 > 0:26:27I noticed when I took the Lymington ferry to go to the Isle of Wight

0:26:27 > 0:26:31last month, that it said, "Please drive slowly and be careful,"

0:26:31 > 0:26:34"because already 20 ponies have been killed on the road this year."

0:26:34 > 0:26:36Is that the sort of average, each year?

0:26:36 > 0:26:42- So you are talking about 40 ponies a year?- More than that, I am afraid.

0:26:42 > 0:26:48We have averaged about 160 accidents a year and probably of those,

0:26:48 > 0:26:5090 to 100 animals are killed or seriously injured.

0:26:50 > 0:26:52That must be heartbreaking?

0:26:52 > 0:26:56It very much is. And that is part of the agister's duty to attend those accidents and that is

0:26:56 > 0:26:58the downside of the job.

0:26:58 > 0:27:02Apart from visitors coming to the New Forest, reducing their speed,

0:27:02 > 0:27:05what else can they do to maintain this wonderful tradition?

0:27:05 > 0:27:07Please don't feed the ponies.

0:27:07 > 0:27:09A big temptation for people to feed the ponies.

0:27:09 > 0:27:11It attracts them to the road which we don't want.

0:27:11 > 0:27:14Come here, admire what we have got here,

0:27:14 > 0:27:16but please just admire from a distance.

0:27:16 > 0:27:19You are so lucky to use this fantastic area we have got.

0:27:25 > 0:27:29The New Forest is literally shaped by the ponies that graze on it

0:27:29 > 0:27:30and you can't help think

0:27:30 > 0:27:34it's character is also defined by these beautiful animals.

0:27:34 > 0:27:37But it takes man's hand to manage them and if the traditions

0:27:37 > 0:27:38of the Commoners are not upheld,

0:27:38 > 0:27:42then the New Forest would very quickly look altogether different.

0:27:48 > 0:27:50Back at our valuation day on HMS Warrior,

0:27:50 > 0:27:53the waiting crowd are being entertained

0:27:53 > 0:27:56by the Royal Marines Association Concert Band,

0:27:56 > 0:27:59playing a selection of sea shanties.

0:28:02 > 0:28:06A sea shanty was sung to accompany work on board ships,

0:28:06 > 0:28:09although not many were sung on war vessels such as Warrior.

0:28:09 > 0:28:11It is thought that Drunken Sailor,

0:28:11 > 0:28:13was one of the few allowed by the Royal Navy.

0:28:13 > 0:28:15MUSIC: Drunken Sailor

0:28:29 > 0:28:33What a fabulous performance from some very skilled musicians.

0:28:35 > 0:28:40Now, Will has found two hand-made vases that you may well recognise,

0:28:40 > 0:28:43but can you guess what he thinks they are worth?

0:28:43 > 0:28:45Well, Ann, from the Spinnaker behind me there,

0:28:45 > 0:28:48a bit of cutting edge technology in the 21st century,

0:28:48 > 0:28:53down to these, which, in their time, the Moorcroft family were

0:28:53 > 0:28:56pretty cutting edge in technology and design, too.

0:28:56 > 0:28:59Viewers at home will know these are Moorcroft.

0:28:59 > 0:29:03They are going to be well-versed in the history of Moorcroft

0:29:03 > 0:29:05and so on so I am going to cut to the chase and say,

0:29:05 > 0:29:08where have you got them from and why are you selling them?

0:29:08 > 0:29:12We bought them in the late '70s or early '80s at a collector's fair

0:29:12 > 0:29:14in the Guildhall in Portsmouth, here.

0:29:14 > 0:29:17OK, so they have not strayed far from where you bought them.

0:29:17 > 0:29:21No, not at all. We just bought them because we liked them.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23We didn't know anything about them at the time.

0:29:23 > 0:29:25That's good, because if you are buying things

0:29:25 > 0:29:28that you like, it is pretty hard to get wrong.

0:29:28 > 0:29:31Contemporary design, the Spinnaker behind me,

0:29:31 > 0:29:33going back to it, do you like it?

0:29:33 > 0:29:35Yes, I do, actually. I wasn't sure when they started to build it.

0:29:35 > 0:29:39It grows on you, doesn't it? I mean, I think it's a great looking building

0:29:39 > 0:29:44but I bet there are plenty of people who look at that and don't quite get it and it was the same with these.

0:29:44 > 0:29:45But if you like them,

0:29:45 > 0:29:48you have tapped into where Moorcroft were coming from with this

0:29:48 > 0:29:52very artistic decoration, very decorative,

0:29:52 > 0:29:55very colourful almost on this sea-blue ground, isn't it?

0:29:55 > 0:29:58It is very organic, shall we say, which is really the angle they

0:29:58 > 0:30:01were coming from, as well as with the shape and with the decoration.

0:30:01 > 0:30:03You say you bought them from a fair,

0:30:03 > 0:30:06so, what sort of money did you have to pay for them?

0:30:06 > 0:30:09If I remember rightly, I think we paid about £60 for the two.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11That is not bad going, £60.

0:30:11 > 0:30:14Granted that it's for the earlier,

0:30:14 > 0:30:17larger pieces of Moorcroft where the big money is spent, but, you know.

0:30:17 > 0:30:20If someone was looking to start a collection, say,

0:30:20 > 0:30:23or they wanted to weigh in at the affordable level,

0:30:23 > 0:30:26you don't have to start buying everything at top money.

0:30:26 > 0:30:30I think we would probably have to put a matched pair, maybe.

0:30:30 > 0:30:34I think they are slightly different, but they are hand-made, aren't they?

0:30:34 > 0:30:36You're going to have some natural discrepancy

0:30:36 > 0:30:39in form and decoration which is part of the appeal, really.

0:30:39 > 0:30:42So I am going to suggest to you that we will put these in with

0:30:42 > 0:30:44a bit of a come-and-get-me estimate,

0:30:44 > 0:30:47100 to 150, how do you feel about that?

0:30:47 > 0:30:51I know it's a long time since you bought them and you may be want a better return.

0:30:51 > 0:30:55But we have had the use of them in that time and enjoyed them.

0:30:55 > 0:30:58That is the way to look at it, really. Perfect.

0:30:58 > 0:31:01What is the money for? Are you going to replace them with more Moorcroft

0:31:01 > 0:31:03or are you going to go off on another collecting tangent?

0:31:03 > 0:31:08- We have got a Fifth Wheel so we are probably...- A Fifth Wheel?

0:31:08 > 0:31:12- Yes, it is a kind of caravan.- Oh, I thought it was a condition!- No!

0:31:12 > 0:31:16It is an articulated vehicle that goes on the back of a truck bed.

0:31:16 > 0:31:20- Very easy to use.- Let's have a look. - That will give you an idea.

0:31:20 > 0:31:24- Yes, you're right, there is you and your husband?- Yes.

0:31:24 > 0:31:27So, do you stay in this country or do you go abroad at all?

0:31:27 > 0:31:30We went abroad last year but this year we are staying in this country.

0:31:30 > 0:31:33Hey, look, with the weather like this, who can blame you?

0:31:33 > 0:31:35This is ideal, isn't it?

0:31:35 > 0:31:38Well, listen, 100 to 150, let's hope we can get you top estimate,

0:31:38 > 0:31:40a bit of cash to put towards your holiday.

0:31:40 > 0:31:43- I look forward to seeing you at the auction.- Fingers crossed.- Cheers.

0:31:45 > 0:31:49So, 100 to 150, did you get that right?

0:31:49 > 0:31:52Later, we will find out if they make more as they go under the hammer

0:31:52 > 0:31:55but now, we are back on deck with Michael.

0:31:55 > 0:31:59Martina, thank you for bringing this beautiful lady today.

0:31:59 > 0:32:02What can you tell me about it?

0:32:02 > 0:32:07Well, Michael, I actually inherited her from my godparents

0:32:07 > 0:32:10together with 16 other ivory or -

0:32:10 > 0:32:14- well, we were hoping that it's ivory - items.- Right.

0:32:14 > 0:32:16So you don't know yet whether it's ivory

0:32:16 > 0:32:18- or whether it's resin or plastic?- No.

0:32:18 > 0:32:23My godfather always assured me that it was ivory,

0:32:23 > 0:32:26but we had friends around, and they literally said that they

0:32:26 > 0:32:30couldn't see a grain, so they were assuming it was resin.

0:32:30 > 0:32:33Right. That brings up a few interesting points.

0:32:33 > 0:32:38The first is that there are so many copies of ivory

0:32:38 > 0:32:42in resin, in plastic, in bone.

0:32:42 > 0:32:44Bone's quite easy to tell,

0:32:44 > 0:32:48because you'll get little black flecks from the vesicles that show through.

0:32:48 > 0:32:52The plastic forgeries can be much more cunning.

0:32:52 > 0:32:55They often have the same density and feel as ivory.

0:32:55 > 0:32:58We must just say that this is old ivory,

0:32:58 > 0:33:00not anything that was made in the 20th century.

0:33:02 > 0:33:05Ivory can only be sold if it was made before 1947.

0:33:05 > 0:33:07This piece certainly was.

0:33:07 > 0:33:12This figure would date to about 1870, 1880,

0:33:12 > 0:33:14but if we look at the figure in detail,

0:33:14 > 0:33:15it's quite difficult to tell,

0:33:15 > 0:33:17but if you look here by the shoulder -

0:33:17 > 0:33:20I'm naturally drawn to that area, I don't know why -

0:33:20 > 0:33:24you can see a little bit of grain in it, and if we just move it,

0:33:24 > 0:33:26there is slight flexing and a depth to it

0:33:26 > 0:33:30which you don't get with plastic cos it's all surface decoration

0:33:30 > 0:33:33and patination with plastic.

0:33:33 > 0:33:35It's on this ivory base.

0:33:35 > 0:33:37I think this ivory base is a bit later, actually.

0:33:37 > 0:33:41It's a slightly different colour. Ivory tends to age in the atmosphere,

0:33:41 > 0:33:46and it can go quite yellow and get a very rich tone to it.

0:33:46 > 0:33:49I think this is a figure of Diana the Huntress,

0:33:49 > 0:33:51- because we've got her quiver.- Hmm-mm.

0:33:51 > 0:33:54We've got her faithful hunting dog

0:33:54 > 0:33:59and then we have her holding her kill, the boar's head.

0:33:59 > 0:34:01That's a very Teutonic emblem.

0:34:01 > 0:34:05You wouldn't expect to see her with a boar's head in France,

0:34:05 > 0:34:07but in a German carving, that's absolutely fine.

0:34:07 > 0:34:10She's nicely done.

0:34:10 > 0:34:15I wouldn't say she's the very finest quality ivory I've seen,

0:34:15 > 0:34:19but very nicely done, and German rather than the French Dieppe carving.

0:34:20 > 0:34:22Nice figure.

0:34:22 > 0:34:26It always helps to have a naked lady when you're selling and ivory.

0:34:26 > 0:34:29- Any idea of the value? - Absolutely none.

0:34:30 > 0:34:32I think we need to be sensible with it,

0:34:32 > 0:34:35just because she's holding the dead boar's head.

0:34:35 > 0:34:37That might just put a few people off

0:34:37 > 0:34:40- that like the more Art Deco graceful figures.- Yes.

0:34:40 > 0:34:43Let's say £400-£600.

0:34:43 > 0:34:47Let's put a fixed reserve of, say, £400 on it

0:34:47 > 0:34:49and see how it goes.

0:34:49 > 0:34:54But it is a well carved late 19th-century figure,

0:34:54 > 0:34:58and it deserves to make all of that, if not a little bit more.

0:34:58 > 0:35:01- Are you happy to put it into the auction?- I am, yes.

0:35:01 > 0:35:04Because she's only in a box at the moment.

0:35:04 > 0:35:06Well, get her out of the box and on display

0:35:06 > 0:35:08and in front of some admiring eyes, I hope.

0:35:08 > 0:35:11- They would appreciate it more. - I certainly do.- Thank you.

0:35:11 > 0:35:13Thank you very much for bringing it in.

0:35:13 > 0:35:18In Roman mythology, Diana was the goddess of the hunt

0:35:18 > 0:35:19and of the moon,

0:35:19 > 0:35:22and it looks like Michael will join the masses who worship her.

0:35:22 > 0:35:26Will's back on shore now, but is he in trouble?

0:35:26 > 0:35:29Steve, you're making me a bit nervous in your uniform.

0:35:29 > 0:35:31I know my valuations can be a bit out sometimes,

0:35:31 > 0:35:34but as far as I'm aware, that's not an arrestable offence, is it?

0:35:34 > 0:35:37- No, I don't think so.- I'm in the clear, then.- Should be all right.

0:35:37 > 0:35:40But look what you've brought along today. These are great fun.

0:35:40 > 0:35:42Do you wear these? Are they from your own collection?

0:35:42 > 0:35:47No. My mother gave them to me a few years ago, and she got them

0:35:47 > 0:35:50off her father, who was in the Royal Navy,

0:35:50 > 0:35:53so I don't know how he came to be in possession of them.

0:35:53 > 0:35:55Right, OK. They're a lovely little pair of cufflinks.

0:35:55 > 0:35:58When I first saw them, I thought, these are some nice gold cufflinks

0:35:58 > 0:36:02with enamelled pictures of the Titanic,

0:36:02 > 0:36:06- but having had a closer look at them, they're not gold, are they?- No.

0:36:06 > 0:36:09They are base metal, so we'd have to call them sort of gilt metal.

0:36:09 > 0:36:12The centenary has only recently passed,

0:36:12 > 0:36:15so the sort of thing that we want to see on Flog It!

0:36:15 > 0:36:18You tell me that your grandfather was in the Royal Navy.

0:36:18 > 0:36:22- In the Royal Navy, yes. - So do you think that they probably came from him, then, originally?

0:36:22 > 0:36:25Yes, I have talked to people about these.

0:36:25 > 0:36:28Why would they be making souvenirs earlier than 100 years?

0:36:28 > 0:36:32If my grandfather had them, they've got to be at least 50 years old.

0:36:32 > 0:36:34- Yes.- So, unless they were a bicentenary thing.

0:36:34 > 0:36:35Otherwise, I was thinking,

0:36:35 > 0:36:37maybe they were issued to the crews

0:36:37 > 0:36:39for cufflinks themselves, or something.

0:36:39 > 0:36:44I think they're possibly commemorative

0:36:44 > 0:36:48- rather than being on board at the time, shall we say.- Hmm-mm.

0:36:48 > 0:36:51Because, even at the time, the Titanic was causing quite a stir.

0:36:51 > 0:36:56So I think there was a market for Titanic-related memorabilia

0:36:56 > 0:36:59even then. Obviously, you've got your short sleeves on today.

0:36:59 > 0:37:02I've rolled my sleeves up because of the weather.

0:37:02 > 0:37:05It's kind of redundant in how you dress nowadays.

0:37:05 > 0:37:08- Not really a cufflink man? - No, not really.

0:37:08 > 0:37:11Well, there are enough people out there who are obsessed -

0:37:11 > 0:37:14- and that is the word for it - with the Titanic memorabilia.

0:37:14 > 0:37:18I think we'll find a new buyer for these who is either going to wear them

0:37:18 > 0:37:21or they're going to be part of their Titanic memorabilia collection.

0:37:21 > 0:37:23My valuation would be -

0:37:23 > 0:37:26and I'm aware that you've got your handcuffs

0:37:26 > 0:37:30and your scary baton - my valuation is going to be sort of around the £50 mark,

0:37:30 > 0:37:34sort of £40-£60. How do you feel about that?

0:37:34 > 0:37:37- That would be fine, yes.- Yes, you'd be happy with that?- Yes.

0:37:37 > 0:37:39Well, thanks for coming off duty and seeing us.

0:37:39 > 0:37:42Shake you by the hand, and see you at the saleroom.

0:37:42 > 0:37:46- Absolutely.- You don't have to come in uniform.- Thank you.

0:37:49 > 0:37:53What a fabulous valuation day we've had here on HMS Warrior,

0:37:53 > 0:37:55and particularly in Portsmouth Harbour.

0:37:55 > 0:37:57But sadly, it's time for us to say goodbye,

0:37:57 > 0:38:00as we get landlocked now into the auction room in Winchester.

0:38:00 > 0:38:02Here's the booty that we're taking with us.

0:38:04 > 0:38:08Will's estimate was £100-£150, but we all know Moorcroft can make more.

0:38:08 > 0:38:11Will this sale cause jaws to drop at auction?

0:38:13 > 0:38:17Or will it be the ivory figure that combines beauty and the beast?

0:38:19 > 0:38:22There are thousands of Titanic fans in the country.

0:38:22 > 0:38:25Will they set sail to bid on these cufflinks?

0:38:27 > 0:38:29It's back to the saleroom now,

0:38:29 > 0:38:32where it's light, camera, auction for the last time today.

0:38:34 > 0:38:37Good luck with these cufflinks.

0:38:37 > 0:38:39It would be really nice to think that they could be the Titanic.

0:38:39 > 0:38:42- I am pretty sure they are. - Well, I think it is the Titanic.

0:38:42 > 0:38:45You've got the four funnels, you see, and on the Titanic,

0:38:45 > 0:38:47you had three funnels for the steam and one for show.

0:38:47 > 0:38:50So, the four funnels on these, I am pretty sure...

0:38:50 > 0:38:52Which could add to that £40-£60 value,

0:38:52 > 0:38:54it could bring it up a bit, couldn't it?

0:38:54 > 0:38:56Well, these Titanic collectors are avid collectors.

0:38:56 > 0:39:00- Now, I gather all the money is going towards a pram.- Yes.

0:39:00 > 0:39:03- So tell me about this pram. Who's it for?- For my daughter.

0:39:03 > 0:39:06She's 24 and she's expecting her first child in November.

0:39:06 > 0:39:09- So you're going to be a grandad? - Yes, first time.- How exciting!

0:39:09 > 0:39:11Let's find out what the cufflinks do.

0:39:11 > 0:39:13They're going under the hammer now.

0:39:13 > 0:39:16A pair of metal cufflinks with enamel pictures,

0:39:16 > 0:39:18possibly the Titanic, lot 245.

0:39:18 > 0:39:21Start me at £50. £50?

0:39:21 > 0:39:2340? £40, surely.

0:39:23 > 0:39:26- 30, if you like. - Come on! They're worth that!

0:39:26 > 0:39:2932, 35, 37. 40.

0:39:29 > 0:39:30Well done.

0:39:30 > 0:39:3245.

0:39:32 > 0:39:34At £42 and selling. Is there 5?

0:39:34 > 0:39:3645. 47.

0:39:36 > 0:39:37Good.

0:39:37 > 0:39:41At £45, seated at the front here. At £45, are you all done?

0:39:41 > 0:39:44At £45, last time.

0:39:44 > 0:39:46It looks like we are selling at 45.

0:39:46 > 0:39:48- Yes, the hammer's gone down. - There you go.- Good estimate.

0:39:48 > 0:39:51- Very good.- Glad to see them away. - But they've gone.

0:39:51 > 0:39:53They've gone, and that's the end of them, yeah.

0:39:53 > 0:39:57- Little bit of money towards the pushchair.- Yes, we might get a wheel out of that!

0:39:57 > 0:40:00Did it go to a collector of Titanic memorabilia?

0:40:00 > 0:40:03We found out who bought it and why.

0:40:04 > 0:40:08I'm interested, because my grandfather worked for the Cunard Line for 50 years,

0:40:08 > 0:40:12so I collect a few bits related to ships and things

0:40:12 > 0:40:13because they interest me.

0:40:13 > 0:40:20Our history being preserved by young collectors like Alex. Good work!

0:40:20 > 0:40:23Now, will this be one of those Moorcroft moments?

0:40:23 > 0:40:25Why are you selling the vases?

0:40:25 > 0:40:28Well, we came down, because it was on the Warrior as well,

0:40:28 > 0:40:29and it was a beautiful day...

0:40:29 > 0:40:32- It was stunning.- And we thought it would be a lovely experience.

0:40:32 > 0:40:35A good day out. But you get to see how Flog It! is put together and made.

0:40:35 > 0:40:38- And that was really interesting. - Were you've impressed?

0:40:38 > 0:40:43- I was, and everybody was so nice.- We look after everybody, we really do.

0:40:43 > 0:40:47- What are we looking for, Will?- I think I said about £100 for the pair.

0:40:47 > 0:40:50I think they've got to be worth that. A pair of Moorcroft vases.

0:40:50 > 0:40:53- Yes, one of the best names in ceramics.- Exactly.

0:40:53 > 0:40:56- Fingers crossed. - Fingers crossed.- No pressure.

0:40:56 > 0:41:00Lot 580, there is a pair of Moorcroft spot vases.

0:41:00 > 0:41:02We have a commissioned bid. I'll start the bidding at £100.

0:41:02 > 0:41:06- Straight in.- There we go.- Oh, good.

0:41:06 > 0:41:08110, 120, 130. Commissioned bid's out.

0:41:08 > 0:41:10130 in the room. It there 140?

0:41:10 > 0:41:12140, 150.

0:41:12 > 0:41:16160. 170, 180, 190, 200.

0:41:16 > 0:41:20- It's going. Well, it is a pair, isn't it? Let's face it.- Yeah.

0:41:20 > 0:41:23At £190, then, if you're all done, very last time...

0:41:23 > 0:41:26Yes! How about that? We are happy with that.

0:41:26 > 0:41:30So that will get the food for the week, won't it?

0:41:30 > 0:41:31- Or something like that.- Yes.

0:41:31 > 0:41:33- Who are you going with?- My husband.

0:41:33 > 0:41:37- Is he here today? - Yes, yes, he's there.- There he is.

0:41:39 > 0:41:41- He's pleased.- Very pleased.

0:41:41 > 0:41:44It just shows you, even with popular pieces like Moorcroft,

0:41:44 > 0:41:47you can never tell what they will make on the day.

0:41:47 > 0:41:51An excellent sale. And finally, we end with a goddess.

0:41:51 > 0:41:54Good luck, Martina, with the ivory figure.

0:41:54 > 0:41:57Why have you picked this one out to sell,

0:41:57 > 0:41:59because you've still got another 15 or so at home?

0:41:59 > 0:42:02What was it about this one that you brought to Michael?

0:42:02 > 0:42:03She just stood out very much,

0:42:03 > 0:42:07and she was actually one of my godfather's favourites.

0:42:07 > 0:42:10- He was very much into hunting. - And it's Diana the Huntress.

0:42:10 > 0:42:14So, classical figure. It's really, really nice. I like this.

0:42:14 > 0:42:15It's beautifully carved.

0:42:15 > 0:42:18It's typically late 19th in style

0:42:18 > 0:42:20and the modelling of the features.

0:42:20 > 0:42:22Let's find out what this auction room thinks.

0:42:22 > 0:42:24There's a lot of bidders. Here we go.

0:42:24 > 0:42:31Lot 105, the carved ivory classical figure of the huntress and hound.

0:42:31 > 0:42:33One, two, three, four commissioned bids here.

0:42:33 > 0:42:36Fantastic! Fantastic!

0:42:36 > 0:42:39Straight in at £700.

0:42:39 > 0:42:43Yes! £700!

0:42:43 > 0:42:46At £700 and selling. Is there 20?

0:42:46 > 0:42:49- At £700.- Straight in at £700.

0:42:49 > 0:42:51At £700, are you all done?

0:42:51 > 0:42:54At £700, commissioned bid, for the very last time...

0:42:54 > 0:42:56Well, I never. Three commissioned bids,

0:42:56 > 0:42:58straight in on the highest one, £700.

0:42:58 > 0:43:01Has that changed your mind about the rest of the collection?

0:43:01 > 0:43:03If they're all worth somewhere around that region,

0:43:03 > 0:43:04you're in for a lot of money.

0:43:04 > 0:43:08- I think I need Michael's advice on the rest.- Take Michael's advice.

0:43:08 > 0:43:11Slowly, slowly, but, yes, sell them.

0:43:16 > 0:43:18We've come to the end of our day, and I tell you what,

0:43:18 > 0:43:23you can never guarantee what's going to happen in an auction room. That is the beauty of them.

0:43:23 > 0:43:27If you fancy having a go yourself, if you've got any unwanted antiques and collectables,

0:43:27 > 0:43:28we would love to see you.

0:43:28 > 0:43:30Bring them along to one of our valuation days.

0:43:30 > 0:43:34As you can see, it's not just about antiques and collectables.

0:43:34 > 0:43:36It can be about gypsy caravans and garden furniture.

0:43:36 > 0:43:39If you've got it, we would love to sell it.

0:43:39 > 0:43:42Details are on our BBC website, and if you don't have a computer,

0:43:42 > 0:43:44check the details in your local press,

0:43:44 > 0:43:47because we're coming to a town very near you soon.

0:43:47 > 0:43:50Until then, from Hampshire, it's goodbye from all of us.

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