Episode 15

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0:00:07 > 0:00:10Our journey through the annals of Roadshow history are about to end.

0:00:10 > 0:00:15Just time for one last edition as we dig out some golden nuggets from the vaults.

0:00:15 > 0:00:19Just as well - we've left some of our most memorable moments for last.

0:00:45 > 0:00:48If you ask our experts which are their most special finds

0:00:48 > 0:00:50in 30 years on the Roadshow,

0:00:50 > 0:00:53for many it's been when they've touched objects

0:00:53 > 0:00:55associated with great moments in history.

0:00:58 > 0:01:02In this episode, Paul Atterbury and Simon Bull recall some extraordinary encounters.

0:01:02 > 0:01:06'Sometimes an item comes in that really sends shivers down your spine.'

0:01:06 > 0:01:09You get this feeling that here is history, real history.

0:01:09 > 0:01:12A fantastic feeling, that is.

0:01:12 > 0:01:18One of our experts is transported back to his first job working as a porter in an auction house...

0:01:18 > 0:01:22Good morning, Knowles, we're expecting a lot of people today, a very big sale...

0:01:22 > 0:01:26- Right.- So I want you to be on your very best, attentive behaviour.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30And what is the magic of the Roadshow?

0:01:30 > 0:01:35One is incredibly lucky, because The Antiques Roadshow acts as a magnet.

0:01:35 > 0:01:39And things that you really wouldn't believe existed

0:01:39 > 0:01:42just come out of the woodwork to the programme, it's amazing.

0:01:44 > 0:01:46For some, the love affair starts young.

0:01:46 > 0:01:50Collecting can be an infectious disease caught in your youth.

0:01:50 > 0:01:55High time, we thought, to remember some of our youngest visitors to one of Britain's oldest shows.

0:01:58 > 0:02:05Our experts have hosted a total of 14 children's specials over the years, and it never gets any easier.

0:02:05 > 0:02:08The old phrase "never work with children and animals"

0:02:08 > 0:02:11was what sort of went through my mind.

0:02:11 > 0:02:16'I have to say that my experiences of working with children are absolutely delightful.'

0:02:16 > 0:02:19- I like that one.- You like it, too?

0:02:19 > 0:02:21You'd better do up your shoe down there, yes.

0:02:21 > 0:02:26Working with children, you know there is going to be that moment

0:02:26 > 0:02:29when you are going to be completely upstaged,

0:02:29 > 0:02:31and you just have to lay back and enjoy it.

0:02:31 > 0:02:36The history of Meccano goes back actually quite a lot further than 19...

0:02:36 > 0:02:38- 1901.- That's right.

0:02:38 > 0:02:42And also, they don't take you seriously.

0:02:42 > 0:02:45If you're wrong, they will tell you.

0:02:45 > 0:02:49It's a risk. Children are a definite risk.

0:02:49 > 0:02:55I've got a slight problem here today, I'm having great difficulty deciding who's who. So who are you?

0:02:55 > 0:02:57- Dan.- Dan.

0:02:57 > 0:02:59Doing a children's roadshow can be -

0:02:59 > 0:03:02you can really get your comeuppance there.

0:03:02 > 0:03:07I remember two wonderful boys, who brought in an early pocket watch.

0:03:07 > 0:03:12And in order to demonstrate how it worked, I actually needed to take the movement out.

0:03:12 > 0:03:14I'm gonna take this one a little bit to pieces.

0:03:14 > 0:03:18Do you know how to do this safely?

0:03:18 > 0:03:21Yes, I hope so. "Are you sure you know what you're doing?!"

0:03:26 > 0:03:31The Children's Roadshow really happened through something Hugh Scully and I did.

0:03:31 > 0:03:36We just the two of us appeared on a children's programme, and there was such an enormous

0:03:36 > 0:03:40response from the kids that it made everybody sit up and take notice,

0:03:40 > 0:03:44and the decision was then to make a special children's programme.

0:03:44 > 0:03:48THEME TUNE PLAYS

0:03:48 > 0:03:51Dozens of youngsters have brought their treasures along to

0:03:51 > 0:03:55Children's Roadshows since they started in 1992.

0:03:55 > 0:04:00And the memories have left a deep and lasting impression on some of our experts.

0:04:00 > 0:04:06I can almost hear the children now, as I remember the Bristol Roadshow.

0:04:08 > 0:04:14There were several children who clearly were already on the road to obsession in their collection.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16Some of them were absolutely charming.

0:04:16 > 0:04:21One of the most impressive young people who came to the show was the girl, she was six years old,

0:04:21 > 0:04:24and she brought in a collection of fossils.

0:04:24 > 0:04:27- You've got a little animals' graveyard here.- Yes.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30Can you just quickly take me through what they are?

0:04:30 > 0:04:32Er, a dinosaur bone,

0:04:32 > 0:04:37an ammonite, a crinoid,

0:04:37 > 0:04:41petrified wood, some coral, a trilobite,

0:04:41 > 0:04:48- shark teeth and echinoids.- Gosh, you could start a whole new planet with all of these.- Yes.

0:04:48 > 0:04:55She could pin to each bone and tooth the correct polysyllabic word -

0:04:55 > 0:05:00not bad for a six-year-old. And for anybody listening, polysyllabic means long word.

0:05:00 > 0:05:02Do you have any favourites here?

0:05:02 > 0:05:08Erm, this one's one of my favourites, because I dug this one up by myself.

0:05:08 > 0:05:14- And when did they live? - Erm, round the Cretaceous period.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17And then at the end, I said, "Is there any fossil you

0:05:17 > 0:05:20"would like Father Christmas to bring you?"

0:05:20 > 0:05:25No, Santa doesn't get fossils.

0:05:25 > 0:05:29But if he did, I saw this skull,

0:05:29 > 0:05:35a bit of a skull of a baby mammoth, and it was a real lot of money so we couldn't have it.

0:05:35 > 0:05:39It's not every six-year-old who wants a baby mammoth for Christmas.

0:05:41 > 0:05:46And at Gateshead in 2008, Christmas came early for Bill Harriman.

0:05:46 > 0:05:49This is a Waterloo medal, and it really is one of the

0:05:49 > 0:05:53greatest battles in British history, where the menace of Napoleon

0:05:53 > 0:05:57was dealt with once and for all.

0:05:57 > 0:06:01It's one of those medals that every collector dreams of. Tell me how you got it.

0:06:01 > 0:06:06It is actually my great, great, great, great grandfather's.

0:06:06 > 0:06:08It was passed down the family.

0:06:08 > 0:06:11I think it was an exciting object, because

0:06:11 > 0:06:17it was a direct link with the owner's family, and he could say

0:06:17 > 0:06:23that he could hold in his hand an object which his ancestor had held.

0:06:23 > 0:06:24He was called William McNull.

0:06:24 > 0:06:32He was born in 1795, and at the age of 15, he joined the Army, in Leeds.

0:06:32 > 0:06:39And so by the age of 20, that's when he went to the Battle of Waterloo.

0:06:39 > 0:06:43I just think that that's a launch into your family's history.

0:06:43 > 0:06:49And he could also tell you that on 18th June 1815, exactly,

0:06:49 > 0:06:54what his ancestor was doing, and that was banging two sticks on a drum.

0:06:54 > 0:06:59This is really rare, because you don't often find medals that are inscribed

0:06:59 > 0:07:00to drummers.

0:07:00 > 0:07:07Waterloo medals, they cost anything between sort of £1,500-£2,000.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10But I want you to promise me that you'll look after that

0:07:10 > 0:07:13for your family, because it's really important.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15- Right.- I also think you don't own it,

0:07:15 > 0:07:17you just look after it for the next generation.

0:07:17 > 0:07:21I really wish that I owned that, something with my family name on it,

0:07:21 > 0:07:24that was at that great event in Europe.

0:07:25 > 0:07:31Going back to 1992, an unsuspecting Hilary was about to fight another battle.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34This is an enormous box. It says Meccano on the top, is it full?

0:07:34 > 0:07:37Yes, it's the number six set

0:07:37 > 0:07:43- which was around 76 years ago, in 1916.- 1916?!

0:07:45 > 0:07:52That memorable recording of the young boy with the Meccano set was sort of all my nightmares put together.

0:07:52 > 0:07:56'I had this really young child to interview,

0:07:56 > 0:08:00'who I thought would know nothing, but of course he knew everything!'

0:08:00 > 0:08:04So every fact I came out with, he sort of countered with a backhand slice.

0:08:04 > 0:08:09The history of Meccano goes back actually quite a lot further than 19...

0:08:09 > 0:08:111901.

0:08:11 > 0:08:15That's right. That's when he started producing Meccano.

0:08:15 > 0:08:21And this tennis match went on, and it was always my ball that ended up in the net. It was completely priceless.

0:08:21 > 0:08:25Watching the clip again, it does seem to have

0:08:25 > 0:08:29a quite quaint sense of comedy to it, it's almost like

0:08:29 > 0:08:33a bit of a pastiche of the Antiques Roadshow, because I seem to come out

0:08:33 > 0:08:39with a lot of facts and dates and so on, which I probably wouldn't

0:08:39 > 0:08:45have known two days before, and almost certainly wouldn't have remembered two days afterwards.

0:08:45 > 0:08:50I don't know if this is something that you wanted to know how much it's worth...

0:08:50 > 0:08:52- £50.- No, more than that...

0:08:52 > 0:08:57He actually came out with a valuation figure before I could even get mine out.

0:08:57 > 0:09:02I mean, I suppose I should be thankful that he was wrong, otherwise actually what was I doing there?

0:09:02 > 0:09:07I only have the vaguest memory of meeting Hilary Kay.

0:09:07 > 0:09:12Erm, I remember walking past Andy Peters in the gents' toilets.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15He was a big children's television presenter at the time!

0:09:19 > 0:09:22There's nothing like getting a taste for antiques when you're young.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24And that's certainly true for many of our experts,

0:09:24 > 0:09:30who learned their trade by starting right at the bottom of the ladder, as porters in auction houses.

0:09:30 > 0:09:34So we took one of our best-loved specialists, Eric Knowles,

0:09:34 > 0:09:39back to his roots and let him loose on the saleroom floor for a day to see how he got on.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43It's years since Eric has been out from behind his desk at a

0:09:43 > 0:09:47major London auction house, but there's no time for slacking in a Yorkshire saleroom.

0:09:47 > 0:09:52You really do have to start at the bottom of the ladder,

0:09:52 > 0:09:56when you start in the antiques world, certainly for an auction house.

0:09:56 > 0:09:59More often than not, you start off as a porter.

0:09:59 > 0:10:05You're on a learning curve, and I can tell you know, that learning curve was so steep.

0:10:05 > 0:10:11Certainly the first three years, and after that it levels off a little bit. But it never flattens out.

0:10:11 > 0:10:15And that's what makes this business so fascinating.

0:10:17 > 0:10:20Being a potter, it sounds quite lowly, doesn't it?

0:10:20 > 0:10:26But in all fairness, it was the perfect introduction for me.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29It's quite menial, there's a lot of sweeping up,

0:10:29 > 0:10:33there's a lot of humping and lumping tea chests from A to B.

0:10:33 > 0:10:35But it is the way to learn.

0:10:35 > 0:10:39- So what are you looking for in particular today?- Jukeboxes.

0:10:39 > 0:10:40Jukeboxes?

0:10:40 > 0:10:44A bit thin on the ground in Wensleydale, you know.

0:10:46 > 0:10:53The team have had to inspect, catalogue and display all 800 items in today's sale.

0:10:53 > 0:10:58The great thing about working in an auction house is that you would see in a year

0:10:58 > 0:11:02quite often what a dealer might handle in five years.

0:11:02 > 0:11:08And that was all part and parcel of absorbing this information, almost by osmosis.

0:11:10 > 0:11:15Who better to put Eric through his paces then the man who helped him get his first porter's job

0:11:15 > 0:11:1832 years ago - old friend Rodney Tennant.

0:11:18 > 0:11:21- Good morning, Knowles.- Good morning. - How are you this morning?

0:11:21 > 0:11:24I'm fine, thank you, I'm just checking the contents.

0:11:24 > 0:11:29We're gonna be very, busy, we're expecting a lot of people, a very big sale, I want you to be on your

0:11:29 > 0:11:34very best, attentive behaviour, which includes, please do your tie up a little bit more.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38- Oh, I'm very sorry. - There's no point having clean boots and a tie that's askew.

0:11:38 > 0:11:41One weak link in the chain breaks the whole thing.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44- All right, I won't let you down, Mr Tennant.- Thank you very.- OK.- Good.

0:11:50 > 0:11:53I've word that Rodney goes to bed at 9 o'clock the night before.

0:11:53 > 0:11:58- I've heard that one as well?- Have you?- Yes, I've had the same rumour!

0:11:58 > 0:12:03- He's probably got an electric blanket as well, I'm gonna ask him eventually.- Eric!

0:12:03 > 0:12:04Oh, there he is.

0:12:04 > 0:12:07His ears are burning.

0:12:07 > 0:12:09Just concentrate, we're about to start the sale, please.

0:12:09 > 0:12:13- He's looking at me, he wants me to do a bit of work.- Just concentrate.

0:12:13 > 0:12:16That Rodney Tennant, his eyes and ears are everywhere.

0:12:16 > 0:12:18- Everywhere.- Yes.

0:12:18 > 0:12:2040, 50, 60, 70.

0:12:20 > 0:12:23At 70...

0:12:23 > 0:12:27- Lot 19, a teapot in the form of a cat...- Sample showing...

0:12:27 > 0:12:29- Oh, showing there, well done. - Thank you.

0:12:29 > 0:12:31Hold them up, Mr Knowles, there we are.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34I think the primary reason I wanted to get

0:12:34 > 0:12:39into the world of auctioneering was that I actually went to a house sale.

0:12:39 > 0:12:41In the doorway now. 260, 280...

0:12:41 > 0:12:47I saw the auctioneer, and you know, the porters in their brown coats and everything, it was just pure theatre.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49420, 440...

0:12:49 > 0:12:56Bells started ringing, because I just knew that this was the place I wanted to be. 460.

0:12:56 > 0:12:59You can put them down now, sir, thank you very much.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01It must have been the way you held those up.

0:13:01 > 0:13:05It's not enough really in this business to be just interested.

0:13:05 > 0:13:08The people that I communicate with are passionate.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- Begins with me at 80... - A left-handed jug.

0:13:11 > 0:13:15- Very rare, being a left-handed jug, apparently.- Yeah!

0:13:15 > 0:13:18When it comes to learning about antiques, it's a case of sort of

0:13:18 > 0:13:24look, listen and, in the case of ceramics, feel free to fondle.

0:13:24 > 0:13:29- Lot 103, the seven Royal Doulton... Is that 103, sir?- 103, yes, sir.

0:13:29 > 0:13:34Right, it must be a bull, I've got another part of that, I haven't got it all on my...

0:13:34 > 0:13:36- It's definitely a bull, sir. - 103, well done.

0:13:36 > 0:13:41Well, if you can't tell from where you are, nobody can tell. There we are.

0:13:41 > 0:13:46With any auction, the adrenalin's pumping, and even when you attend it,

0:13:46 > 0:13:50and you're doing the bidding, you can feel it inside. This man is Formula One.

0:13:50 > 0:13:55And I think I might be on the old push bike level.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58Right, we've got to 200, so I will now hand over to my trainee,

0:13:58 > 0:14:05he's had a session at portering, and he's going to be selling the next 10 lots to see how he gets on.

0:14:05 > 0:14:06LAUGHTER

0:14:06 > 0:14:13I'm hoping it's a bit like riding a bike. I don't mind admitting, I'm as nervous as hell!

0:14:13 > 0:14:20It's the first time he's ever sold in Yorkshire. He's a Lancastrian, so please handle him with care.

0:14:20 > 0:14:24- Thank you, Rodney. - And report to me after the sale.- OK.

0:14:24 > 0:14:26Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

0:14:26 > 0:14:31Yes, for the first time in life my life, I'm wishing I was born in Yorkshire.

0:14:31 > 0:14:36Lot 201, which is the Galle style cat, there it is, please,

0:14:36 > 0:14:39who'd like to start the bidding at £100 for this lot? Looking for 100?

0:14:39 > 0:14:43What you've got to do is to have a successful sale, obviously, it goes without saying,

0:14:43 > 0:14:47and for people to go away wanting to come back.

0:14:47 > 0:14:51It does bring out the thespian in me.

0:14:51 > 0:14:54No bid of £80, start me at 50.

0:14:54 > 0:14:58At 50... We are in Yorkshire and not in Holland are we not, Rodney?

0:14:58 > 0:15:01Yes, OK. Right at 50, any offer of 50? LAUGHTER

0:15:01 > 0:15:05With my former employer I was carpeted on more than one occasion

0:15:05 > 0:15:11and told this is a fine art auction house, this is not theatre.

0:15:11 > 0:15:14I don't mind admitting, ladies and gentlemen, I hate cats. I'm sorry.

0:15:14 > 0:15:17No, no...

0:15:17 > 0:15:24Oh, I know I've lost a few friends but it's all to do with where were you in '62 and in 1962 I was running

0:15:24 > 0:15:27down my front street chasing a cat that had my guinea pig in its mouth.

0:15:27 > 0:15:32So... You'll understand, won't you, the bias, sorry.

0:15:32 > 0:15:35Anyway, any offer of 50 then bid me... Oh...

0:15:35 > 0:15:37£50 is offered there on my right.

0:15:37 > 0:15:4260, 70 if you like, sir. 70, 80 with me. And 90...

0:15:42 > 0:15:44At £100, on the book at £100.

0:15:47 > 0:15:51Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, it may be a day out for you but it's a career for me.

0:15:51 > 0:15:55Thank you so much indeed. Thank you very much, Rodney, it's all yours.

0:15:57 > 0:16:01He'll go far that Eric Knowles.

0:16:01 > 0:16:05Our final compilation of Roadshow moments marks some encounters which

0:16:05 > 0:16:11have left a lasting impression on two of our veteran specialists, Paul Atterbury and Simon Bull.

0:16:11 > 0:16:17They love finding precious pieces which take us directly back to important moments in history.

0:16:22 > 0:16:24I think objects have a huge resonance.

0:16:24 > 0:16:27They're inanimate, they're lumps of metal, whatever.

0:16:27 > 0:16:29But an object which has been somewhere where something

0:16:29 > 0:16:32important has happened, long after the people have gone,

0:16:32 > 0:16:34that object carries that forward into the future.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36What's the key?

0:16:36 > 0:16:39The key to my heart. This is actually very interesting cos, going

0:16:39 > 0:16:42back to where it started really, my fascination with Marie Antoinette.

0:16:42 > 0:16:47This opens a corner cabinet on one of her barges,

0:16:47 > 0:16:50which is nice cos she might well have touched it.

0:16:50 > 0:16:54- This is the magic, I'm holding it, Marie Antoinette may have held it. - Yeah.

0:16:54 > 0:16:58- It's like a relic really, isn't it? - It is, you cannot get closer to the event than that.

0:16:58 > 0:17:00- Yeah.- 'Objects are magic.'

0:17:00 > 0:17:06When I hold something, which has had some famous connection, it's sort of vibrating through me.

0:17:06 > 0:17:10You can feel all that history there in that object.

0:17:14 > 0:17:20The key to a great moment in naval history was put before clocks expert, Simon Bull.

0:17:24 > 0:17:31Sometimes an item comes in that really sends shivers down your spine,

0:17:31 > 0:17:36for various reasons. In this case I remember a marine chronometer...

0:17:36 > 0:17:39Do you know the history because usually they're just

0:17:39 > 0:17:44spoils of war but nobody knows where they came from?

0:17:44 > 0:17:47Yes, we know quite a lot about it's late history

0:17:47 > 0:17:52which is that it was the chronometer of a U-boat, a U-110.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58It was caught by three Royal Navy vessels under

0:17:58 > 0:18:03the command of my grandfather and depth charged to the surface.

0:18:05 > 0:18:09My grandfather sent a boarding party on board who retrieved as much

0:18:09 > 0:18:12stuff as they could from the U-boat,

0:18:12 > 0:18:18including an Enigma machine and all the code books that went with that.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21I believe that was the first time that we actually

0:18:21 > 0:18:24had in the Second World War the naval codes and the machine.

0:18:24 > 0:18:30Fortunately, the Germans were unaware that we'd captured this U-boat and its contents,

0:18:30 > 0:18:34so that was kept a very closely guarded secret.

0:18:34 > 0:18:37It meant that we could decode...

0:18:37 > 0:18:39- Decode them.- That's right.

0:18:39 > 0:18:46So from then on in those codes could be broken and, you think, this

0:18:46 > 0:18:49instrument is a turning point

0:18:49 > 0:18:54in a world war. You get the feeling that here is history. Real history.

0:18:54 > 0:18:56A fantastic feeling, that is.

0:18:57 > 0:19:04Sometimes we're lucky enough to see one small item that has had far reaching consequences for mankind.

0:19:04 > 0:19:10The story of penicillin, a real story that actually changed the 20th century.

0:19:10 > 0:19:16My father went to work, directly from school, at the tender age of 14

0:19:16 > 0:19:22in the inoculation department of St Mary's Hospital where Fleming

0:19:22 > 0:19:26was working as a bacteriological researcher.

0:19:26 > 0:19:28- Fleming was a very untidy man.- Yes.

0:19:28 > 0:19:32And he used to experiment on what we call petri dishes

0:19:32 > 0:19:36and he went off on holiday one day leaving a large quantity of these lying around unwashed and when he

0:19:36 > 0:19:42came back he happened to look at them and he found that several of them, the bacteria had been cleared.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45- So it was pure chance?- Pure chance.

0:19:45 > 0:19:49I do have an original mould here.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52Hang on a minute, so this is the culture.

0:19:52 > 0:19:54That is what the mould looks like.

0:19:54 > 0:19:57Somehow it made me understand the story so much better,

0:19:57 > 0:20:03but the thought that only an accident made all that happen.

0:20:03 > 0:20:06The mould that produced penicillin, Alexander Fleming 1951.

0:20:06 > 0:20:08So this must be a very rare thing.

0:20:08 > 0:20:16- One was sold at auction for £20,000. - I think all we can say is this is a very valuable, very rare item.- Yes.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18If you were concerned with medical history

0:20:18 > 0:20:23- a piece of the original culture, endorsed by Fleming, it must be the gold bar.- Definitely.

0:20:23 > 0:20:26There is nothing like it.

0:20:26 > 0:20:30Thinking, "I'm actually holding this piece of history" was very, very important.

0:20:33 > 0:20:37And some items are reminders of the darker chapters in our history.

0:20:37 > 0:20:40- NEWSREEL:- The Palace of Justice in Nuremberg, Germany...

0:20:40 > 0:20:44once the holy city of Nazism, becomes the setting of an epic event.

0:20:44 > 0:20:48The 20 most important surviving members of the Hitler gang go on trial.

0:20:51 > 0:20:52We all know you as Lord Oaksey,

0:20:52 > 0:20:55but what is your connection with this material?

0:20:55 > 0:20:57My connection is through my father.

0:20:57 > 0:21:03He was one of the two British judges on the International Military Tribunal

0:21:03 > 0:21:09which was set up to try the Nazi war criminals.

0:21:09 > 0:21:12- The Nuremberg trials.- Exactly. - Right.

0:21:12 > 0:21:15So here we've got your father on duty, as you might say, and these

0:21:15 > 0:21:20are the various passes issued that he wore, IMT and he was number one,

0:21:20 > 0:21:23so he was top of the list, wasn't he?

0:21:23 > 0:21:30To suddenly see these images and these documents, and talk to somebody who WAS there,

0:21:30 > 0:21:33you really are drawn into that experience.

0:21:33 > 0:21:36The Nuremberg trials, that was the trial that established the precedent

0:21:36 > 0:21:40that when you say as a defence, "I was only following orders"

0:21:40 > 0:21:42that doesn't hold water. Is that right?

0:21:42 > 0:21:44- That's absolutely right.- Yes.

0:21:44 > 0:21:48- NEWSREEL:- Britain's Lord Justice Lawrence addresses the defendant.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52The defendant is to plead guilty or not guilty to the charges against him.

0:21:52 > 0:21:55Nein!

0:21:55 > 0:21:58That will be entered as a plea of "not guilty."

0:21:58 > 0:22:02So you have direct memories of the trial and all that it represented?

0:22:02 > 0:22:04- Oh, rather. - So you saw all these people?

0:22:04 > 0:22:08- Absolutely, with my headsets on. - And you saw their responses?

0:22:08 > 0:22:10Very much so.

0:22:10 > 0:22:12Here we have the dock and there's Goering.

0:22:12 > 0:22:16- Gosh, doesn't he look thin. - Well, that's the amazing thing.

0:22:16 > 0:22:22He had lost four stone in weight and had come off main line heroin and so

0:22:22 > 0:22:28it was an incredible achievement that he became the outstanding figure in the dock.

0:22:28 > 0:22:32He was the one who defended himself and his colleagues.

0:22:32 > 0:22:34- Never said, "sorry" at all.- Exactly.

0:22:34 > 0:22:39To me this is just an incredible vision into this...

0:22:39 > 0:22:41vital moment in our history.

0:22:41 > 0:22:44It was a very important item to me because I thought

0:22:44 > 0:22:47this is from the eyes and voice of someone who was there.

0:22:47 > 0:22:52He could talk about it in a very direct sense and it was about making history live.

0:22:56 > 0:22:59It's looking at pieces like that which remind me

0:22:59 > 0:23:05just what a privilege it is to work on the Roadshow when such special objects are brought in for scrutiny.

0:23:05 > 0:23:08If you think you've a piece you'd like our experts to look at

0:23:08 > 0:23:11we'd love to see you as the programme continues

0:23:11 > 0:23:12recording for our next series.

0:23:12 > 0:23:16That's just about it from this look back through the archives.

0:23:16 > 0:23:19I hope you agree it's been stacked with priceless moments.

0:23:19 > 0:23:24My thanks to our team of experts for bringing back such great memories and we've one final question.

0:23:24 > 0:23:29After getting on for 500 Roadshows what is it they love about the show?

0:23:29 > 0:23:31And, keeps you all watching.

0:23:31 > 0:23:33Bye-bye.

0:23:37 > 0:23:42I think one of the great things about the Roadshow is that, despite the fact that's it's been

0:23:42 > 0:23:45on the air for over 30 years, broadly speaking it has been

0:23:45 > 0:23:50unchanging in the sense that the format has remained exactly the same.

0:23:50 > 0:23:55But it retains its freshness because every single programme is different,

0:23:55 > 0:24:00I mean the people you meet, the things they bring with them, the places you go to.

0:24:00 > 0:24:05Every week when you turn on the Antiques Roadshow you have no idea,

0:24:05 > 0:24:10as the experts didn't on the recording day, you have no idea what you are going to see.

0:24:10 > 0:24:13THEME TUNE PLAYS

0:24:15 > 0:24:18It kind of was a weekly occurrence that you looked forward to.

0:24:18 > 0:24:24That music heralded the start of an adventure, a sense of discovery.

0:24:24 > 0:24:30It's a very special passport to experiencing very special things.

0:24:30 > 0:24:36To experience it with some of the people on the Roadshow is just beyond description.

0:24:40 > 0:24:47I think most of us would agree the best moment of the Roadshow day is 9.25am.

0:24:47 > 0:24:50There's huge queues, there's people clutching

0:24:50 > 0:24:55ill-defined parcels and packets and you simply don't know what's going to happen.

0:24:57 > 0:25:03One is incredibly lucky because the Antiques Roadshow acts as a magnet and things that you really

0:25:03 > 0:25:08wouldn't believe existed just come out of the woodwork to the programme, it's amazing.

0:25:08 > 0:25:11There's a slight feeling of Christmas every day,

0:25:11 > 0:25:13because there are funny little parcels and boxes

0:25:13 > 0:25:15and open them up and sometimes

0:25:15 > 0:25:19the Christmas present isn't quite as magnetic and fascinating as you want it to be,

0:25:19 > 0:25:23but then the next one or the one after that contains the Faberge brooch

0:25:23 > 0:25:27or the Charles II memorial ring or something absolutely pulse making.

0:25:27 > 0:25:30That's when the heart starts fluttering.

0:25:30 > 0:25:32That's when the excitement comes.

0:25:32 > 0:25:35- That's when the adrenalin starts to flow.- It's a dream come true.

0:25:35 > 0:25:40It doesn't happen very often, but when it does, that's what we look forward to.

0:25:40 > 0:25:43That's what I look forward to.

0:25:43 > 0:25:48The other thing which I really get a kick out of is the characters as well.

0:25:48 > 0:25:52Certain people they...

0:25:52 > 0:25:57are extensions of what they're bringing in and the whole thing then becomes a

0:25:57 > 0:25:59wonderful journey.

0:25:59 > 0:26:02- Thank you very much.- Thank you.

0:26:02 > 0:26:04One thing that always amazes me,

0:26:04 > 0:26:07I think it sums up the British character

0:26:07 > 0:26:11is how nice and how pleasant people are when they've queued for five hours.

0:26:11 > 0:26:14I'd be an homicidal lunatic standing there for that time.

0:26:14 > 0:26:18It is the remarkable thing about the Roadshow is that it brings out

0:26:18 > 0:26:23the very best in people in all sorts of ways. It never ceases to amaze me.

0:26:23 > 0:26:26We can go from the top of the country to the bottom of the country.

0:26:26 > 0:26:34We can go to America, Australia, whatever, and we can find the most remarkable things.

0:26:34 > 0:26:37One of the things that has always been key to the programme is,

0:26:37 > 0:26:40in a sense, the "Oh, my gosh" shock effect.

0:26:40 > 0:26:42- What?- Really?

0:26:42 > 0:26:48Here you are, bought for £2, worth £5,000 and bizarrely, this happens all the time.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51Every show there is one of those sort of discoveries.

0:26:51 > 0:26:56- This piece of furniture would be in excess of £100,000.- Gosh.

0:26:56 > 0:26:59That's what we want, it's an entertainment programme

0:26:59 > 0:27:02so when you get a really good reaction it makes the programme.

0:27:02 > 0:27:06Fantastic, I had no idea.

0:27:06 > 0:27:11The Roadshow, to me, represents a chunk of my life which was almost entirely pleasure and excitement and

0:27:11 > 0:27:14to have started something so late in my career

0:27:14 > 0:27:20it was an extraordinary bit of luck because I'd met such amazing

0:27:20 > 0:27:27people and seen such astonishing things, travelled to lovely places and they've actually paid me as well.

0:27:27 > 0:27:29It's been a great bonus.

0:27:31 > 0:27:36We had no idea when we did the first series of the Antiques Roadshow

0:27:36 > 0:27:40that it would ever run more than the first eight

0:27:40 > 0:27:45and when the second one came along we were amazed.

0:27:45 > 0:27:49Then a third, and I'm still amazed, frankly.

0:27:51 > 0:27:57The Times said some years ago, I remember, "there are two programmes that could potentially go on forever.

0:27:57 > 0:28:02"One is Desert Island Discs and the other is the Antiques Roadshow."

0:28:02 > 0:28:06Well, if we live as long as Desert Island Disc we'll be doing very well.

0:28:08 > 0:28:13Would I have been surprised the programme was going still 30-odd years later?

0:28:13 > 0:28:15I think all of us would be.

0:28:15 > 0:28:20Not just me, but it was a nice, comfortable, happy, nice little programme

0:28:20 > 0:28:25that no-one envisaged would go on forever, almost like The Archers, I mean, it's quite incredible.

0:28:25 > 0:28:29Here it is, still after all these years, still surviving.

0:28:29 > 0:28:31We're shocked.

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