National Theatre of Scotland: A Dramatic Decade

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05June 2016. A little after one o'clock in the morning.

0:00:07 > 0:00:09An expectant audience board buses which will take them

0:00:09 > 0:00:12into the Perthshire countryside to watch a play,

0:00:12 > 0:00:14The 306: Dawn.

0:00:18 > 0:00:22The location is not your usual theatrical establishment,

0:00:22 > 0:00:24this will be no ordinary piece of theatre.

0:00:26 > 0:00:29This is theatre without walls.

0:00:29 > 0:00:32This is the National Theatre of Scotland.

0:00:48 > 0:00:51The history of theatre in Scotland is long and rich.

0:00:53 > 0:00:56Its legacy is apparent in the strength of Scotland's language,

0:00:56 > 0:00:57poetry and humour.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00Already it's obvious that you're pleased to see me.

0:01:03 > 0:01:06For centuries, Scottish audiences have come together to laugh, sing,

0:01:06 > 0:01:08and share their stories.

0:01:09 > 0:01:13As a country, I think at our core we've got a really great, sort of,

0:01:13 > 0:01:15ability to just engage.

0:01:15 > 0:01:17We all tell a story. We all do a turn.

0:01:21 > 0:01:23These stories speak in the voice of a nation.

0:01:25 > 0:01:29A people with their own diverse, complicated, ever-changing culture.

0:01:32 > 0:01:35Theatre in Scotland is like no other theatre in the world.

0:01:35 > 0:01:37They were standing,

0:01:37 > 0:01:42and their Queen was beautiful and tall and fair.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44And yet, until this century,

0:01:44 > 0:01:47Scotland had never had a national theatre company.

0:01:49 > 0:01:52I know that the debate had been going on for a long time

0:01:52 > 0:01:57about what a national theatre would look like, what shape it would take.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59Will it be in Edinburgh or will it be in Glasgow?

0:01:59 > 0:02:01Maybe we should have it in Stirling?

0:02:01 > 0:02:04Is it going to be a big old building with pillars out the front,

0:02:04 > 0:02:06or will it be a new, neoclassical building

0:02:06 > 0:02:08with big pillars out the front?

0:02:08 > 0:02:10Scotland's got a very, very particular identity,

0:02:10 > 0:02:14which is music, it's politics, it's direct address.

0:02:14 > 0:02:16Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Feasgar math.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19There's no fourth wall in great, Scottish theatre.

0:02:19 > 0:02:22Scots kind of like getting right down to brass tacks.

0:02:23 > 0:02:24We're not afraid of singing.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27We're not afraid of standing up in the middle of the bar and,

0:02:27 > 0:02:29you know, singing your heart out.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31It's the immediacy of it, I think.

0:02:31 > 0:02:32When devolution emerged,

0:02:32 > 0:02:35then it became a much more serious notion.

0:02:35 > 0:02:40We did need to both capture and nourish and preserve,

0:02:40 > 0:02:44and promote a common kind of uniquely Scottish perspective.

0:02:45 > 0:02:49Then in 2004, after years of debate,

0:02:49 > 0:02:51the National Theatre of Scotland was established.

0:02:53 > 0:02:56I turned up in Glasgow and it was a rainy day.

0:02:56 > 0:03:01And genuinely walked into a completely empty office,

0:03:01 > 0:03:03no furniture at all.

0:03:03 > 0:03:08I remember going to the NTS on the very first day, I think,

0:03:08 > 0:03:09and Vicky was there.

0:03:09 > 0:03:14And she had literally Blu-Tacked to the door,

0:03:14 > 0:03:17you know, a white piece of paper that said,

0:03:17 > 0:03:18National Theatre of Scotland.

0:03:18 > 0:03:22That was my first day, while the rain hit the window outside.

0:03:22 > 0:03:24And it wasn't scary,

0:03:24 > 0:03:26but it was just a great realisation

0:03:26 > 0:03:29that there really was nothing at all.

0:03:29 > 0:03:32This was a moment to create a national theatre

0:03:32 > 0:03:35that had never really existed in that format before,

0:03:35 > 0:03:36and to create a theatre

0:03:36 > 0:03:39that was something about the people in Scotland,

0:03:39 > 0:03:41and the geography of Scotland, and the stories of Scotland

0:03:41 > 0:03:42at this moment in time.

0:03:42 > 0:03:45In a way, it's everything that I believed theatre to be,

0:03:45 > 0:03:47and should be. So it was thrilling.

0:03:50 > 0:03:53But how could a theatre company aspire

0:03:53 > 0:03:55to represent all Scottish theatre?

0:03:55 > 0:03:56All Scots?

0:03:56 > 0:03:58All of Scotland?

0:03:58 > 0:04:01When Vicky came up with the idea of Home,

0:04:01 > 0:04:03we all went, oh, wow.

0:04:03 > 0:04:06This is exactly right, as a calling card.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09This is the way to say hello to the world.

0:04:09 > 0:04:11To Scotland mainly, and then to the rest of the world.

0:04:11 > 0:04:15Could you believe you long for an island?

0:04:15 > 0:04:17And you miss your home?

0:04:17 > 0:04:18I'd read somewhere that home

0:04:18 > 0:04:22was one of the most evocative words in the English language.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25And I just felt that it was a really interesting word in terms of

0:04:25 > 0:04:31Scotland, having a National Theatre of Scotland itself, what home meant.

0:04:31 > 0:04:32Yes.

0:04:32 > 0:04:34Come through, here, son.

0:04:34 > 0:04:38So we got ten directors, all from Scotland,

0:04:38 > 0:04:40we'd place them in ten different locations

0:04:40 > 0:04:43from Shetland to the Borders, Glasgow, Edinburgh, all over.

0:04:43 > 0:04:46And then they worked with the community

0:04:46 > 0:04:51to come up with a piece of theatre which was inspired by the word home.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53So the idea was that the National Theatre of Scotland

0:04:53 > 0:04:57would start on one particular night in February 2006.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00A Saturday night. When all of these ten pieces would be on at once.

0:05:00 > 0:05:02And this is where the Theatre Without Walls came in,

0:05:02 > 0:05:06which is that we could create work anywhere, for anyone,

0:05:06 > 0:05:08as long as it was artist-led

0:05:08 > 0:05:11and about the stories the artists needed to tell.

0:05:11 > 0:05:13It was... As an idea, it was simple.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15And then I found myself...

0:05:17 > 0:05:20In Easterhouse, at the bottom of a tower block,

0:05:20 > 0:05:24trying to run a tech for abseilers coming down with video cameras.

0:05:24 > 0:05:28To a live audience, doing a piece of theatre.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31Intercepted e-mail correspondent...

0:05:31 > 0:05:35That didn't feel quite as simple, but hell mend me, eh?

0:05:35 > 0:05:39Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the unique setting of

0:05:39 > 0:05:41the Highland football academy.

0:05:42 > 0:05:44It's almost time...

0:05:44 > 0:05:46The stories began with home,

0:05:46 > 0:05:49and soon another narrative seemed timely, even urgent.

0:05:49 > 0:05:51The story of young Scottish soldiers,

0:05:51 > 0:05:53a very long way from their homes.

0:05:53 > 0:05:58Ladies and gentlemen, may we present the Black Watch.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07Welcome to this story of the Black Watch, eh?

0:06:07 > 0:06:10The reason we had the idea of Black Watch was that,

0:06:10 > 0:06:13when I started in Hope Street on the 1st of November 2004,

0:06:13 > 0:06:15the newsagent, I went downstairs to the newsagent,

0:06:15 > 0:06:18and I bought the Herald and the Scotsman, obviously.

0:06:18 > 0:06:22And the first page of the Herald was an article

0:06:22 > 0:06:24saying that Tony Blair was trying to disband

0:06:24 > 0:06:27the Black Watch regiment and put all of the Scottish regiments

0:06:27 > 0:06:29into one thing called the Scottish Regiment.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32And then on page three, so two pages on,

0:06:32 > 0:06:35there was a little sidebar article

0:06:35 > 0:06:38which was talking about two young men,

0:06:38 > 0:06:41two 17-year-olds from the Black Watch regiment,

0:06:41 > 0:06:44and the tone of the article was about their pride

0:06:44 > 0:06:46and their family's pride how their fathers and grandfathers

0:06:46 > 0:06:49had been part of the Black Watch regiment,

0:06:49 > 0:06:51and they'd been killed in an IED, in Iraq,

0:06:51 > 0:06:54and what this meant to the community and the tragedy of that.

0:06:54 > 0:06:57And I thought, my God, in a way,

0:06:57 > 0:07:01theatre is about the gap between two things.

0:07:01 > 0:07:04And I thought, if ever there is the possibility of a piece of theatre,

0:07:04 > 0:07:07it's between those - literally, physically -

0:07:07 > 0:07:08between those two pages.

0:07:08 > 0:07:10I definitely fancy it. What the fuck else are we going to dae?

0:07:10 > 0:07:12I cannae be arsed with the pits any more.

0:07:12 > 0:07:13Aye, the pits are fucked.

0:07:15 > 0:07:16ALL: Where do we sign?

0:07:16 > 0:07:18Oh-ho-ho...

0:07:18 > 0:07:20OMINOUS PIANO

0:07:24 > 0:07:26# In Forfar I was born and bred

0:07:28 > 0:07:32# But faith, I d' think shame, sir

0:07:32 > 0:07:36# To tell the weary life I led

0:07:36 > 0:07:40# A'fore I left my hame, sir

0:07:40 > 0:07:45# Hurrah, hurrah, wi' my tilt a fal air al aye doh... #

0:07:45 > 0:07:48John Tiffany's got an incredible capacity for sentiment

0:07:48 > 0:07:50in the most positive way.

0:07:50 > 0:07:53And understanding, you know, why we need story,

0:07:53 > 0:07:55and where that comes from.

0:07:55 > 0:07:58# Hurrah, hurrah, wi' my tilt a fal air al aye doh... #

0:07:58 > 0:08:00So he really was somebody who celebrated

0:08:00 > 0:08:02those Scottish traditions and the music.

0:08:02 > 0:08:04He was consciously bringing all of those things

0:08:04 > 0:08:06which he felt was so important,

0:08:06 > 0:08:09and actually were slightly waning at the time, because they were

0:08:09 > 0:08:12no longer fashionable, into Black Watch, into telling that story.

0:08:12 > 0:08:16# Wi' my tilt a fal air al aye doh. #

0:08:16 > 0:08:19I thought we would be the ruin of the National Theatre, genuinely.

0:08:19 > 0:08:21I found myself in a rehearsal room having said to Greg,

0:08:21 > 0:08:23you can do these interviews with -

0:08:23 > 0:08:25over there in Fife, they happened -

0:08:25 > 0:08:28you can do these interviews with six soldiers who had

0:08:28 > 0:08:30just come back from their second tour of Iraq.

0:08:30 > 0:08:33But I want to do a collage,

0:08:33 > 0:08:37so that it's not a, kind of, traditionally structured new play.

0:09:21 > 0:09:23RADIO NEWS REPORT CRACKLES INTO LIFE

0:09:23 > 0:09:26'..it's ten past eight. There was deep concern, anger indeed,

0:09:26 > 0:09:28'when the news leaked out a few weeks ago

0:09:28 > 0:09:30'that soldiers of the Black Watch were to be sent north

0:09:30 > 0:09:32'to help out the Americans in Iraq.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35'The area in which they were to be deployed

0:09:35 > 0:09:38'was described here as the Triangle of Death.

0:09:38 > 0:09:40'So it has turned out for three of them,

0:09:40 > 0:09:42'blown up yesterday by a suicide car bomber.

0:09:42 > 0:09:44'Eight more were injured. The ambush...'

0:09:44 > 0:09:46The first time I heard about the play

0:09:46 > 0:09:48was through a friend of mine.

0:09:48 > 0:09:54I went with a bit of trepidation, thinking, actors playing us,

0:09:54 > 0:09:56and then the scene with the pool table,

0:09:56 > 0:09:58where the bayonet comes through.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01I think that was that moment of realisation

0:10:01 > 0:10:04that there was something special about this play.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07We watched one of the first run-throughs,

0:10:07 > 0:10:10and I choke up even saying it now, because I sat there,

0:10:10 > 0:10:11and I thought, "Oh, my God -

0:10:11 > 0:10:14"something's happened which makes me believe in theatre again."

0:10:14 > 0:10:16Aye, hold on!

0:10:16 > 0:10:18I think they've found something in this car.

0:10:20 > 0:10:22I hope it's porn!

0:10:22 > 0:10:24EXPLOSION

0:10:33 > 0:10:35A GAELIC LAMENT FADES IN

0:10:48 > 0:10:51'Mother uniform 3362

0:10:51 > 0:10:52'P4.'

0:10:52 > 0:10:55What Black Watch did, you know, when it first came out,

0:10:55 > 0:10:58at the Fringe in 2006,

0:10:58 > 0:11:01it was, obviously, there was a bit of turmoil going on with the

0:11:01 > 0:11:04seven Scottish regiments and what was happening with amalgamations.

0:11:04 > 0:11:06It did bring a focus.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09It did bring a community focus of, we want to keep our regiment,

0:11:09 > 0:11:11you know, we want to keep our identity.

0:11:11 > 0:11:13I fought for my regiment.

0:11:13 > 0:11:15I fought for my company.

0:11:15 > 0:11:16I fought for my platoon.

0:11:16 > 0:11:17I fought for my section.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20I fought for my mates.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23And that was important to everybody, and it still is.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27It still is to me, as an ex-serving Black Watch soldier.

0:11:27 > 0:11:31And to probably ex-servicemen, soldiers 20, 30 years before me.

0:11:31 > 0:11:33We will always class ourselves as Black Watch.

0:11:33 > 0:11:37And we'll always class ourselves as 1st Battalion.

0:12:00 > 0:12:03I'm so glad that we were able to honour those lads.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07ALL: Five, six, seven, eight!

0:12:07 > 0:12:10Very deep in my, kind of, soul is something

0:12:10 > 0:12:13which I feel honoured to have been able to tell their story.

0:12:13 > 0:12:15And I know Gregory Burke feels the same.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26The thing that I always found really tragic about Black Watch

0:12:26 > 0:12:28was that it was so universal.

0:12:28 > 0:12:31And that also, it was still so relevant, oddly,

0:12:31 > 0:12:34for us to be able to keep touring it year after year.

0:12:34 > 0:12:35That was actually a great tragedy,

0:12:35 > 0:12:39that we hadn't learned from it and it was still important,

0:12:39 > 0:12:40and it still is.

0:12:44 > 0:12:46EXPLOSION

0:12:51 > 0:12:55Black Watch went where generations of Scots themselves had gone before,

0:12:55 > 0:12:56all over the world.

0:12:56 > 0:12:59It was an eclectic and confident calling card.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01Heralding a year of diverse and innovative productions.

0:13:03 > 0:13:05The National Theatre of Scotland had arrived.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12And in that same year, they staged a production that represented another

0:13:12 > 0:13:14strong strand of Scotland's theatrical tradition.

0:13:17 > 0:13:19It was a well-known, well-loved story,

0:13:19 > 0:13:22with songs everyone could sing along to.

0:13:24 > 0:13:27Scottish audiences welcomed the return

0:13:27 > 0:13:29of Danny McGlone and Suzi Kettles

0:13:29 > 0:13:34as John Byrne's cult television show, Tutti Frutti, hit the stage.

0:13:34 > 0:13:37# But should we be apart

0:13:37 > 0:13:39# I really love you, baby... #

0:13:48 > 0:13:49Tah-da!

0:13:51 > 0:13:52The King's Theatre.

0:13:52 > 0:13:54Wow, ten years. It's funny, isn't it,

0:13:54 > 0:13:57seeing it without all the tabs and the side bits and...

0:13:57 > 0:13:59It looks way bigger. It looks massive.

0:13:59 > 0:14:01Ten years, that's ridiculous!

0:14:03 > 0:14:05There was a huge hunger for Tutti Frutti.

0:14:05 > 0:14:08It had been so huge in Scotland.

0:14:08 > 0:14:11I was about 17 or 18 when it came out

0:14:11 > 0:14:14and I remember absolutely worshipping the show.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22In 20 years, it hadn't been seen nor heard of,

0:14:22 > 0:14:26and it became almost like a, kind of, Scottish folklore.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28"Tutti Frutti, do you remember Tutti Frutti?"

0:14:28 > 0:14:29Danny?

0:14:31 > 0:14:32Danny McGlone?

0:14:34 > 0:14:36I thought you were supposed to be in New York.

0:14:36 > 0:14:37It's me.

0:14:40 > 0:14:41Suzi Kettles.

0:14:42 > 0:14:46People liked it for the nostalgia as well.

0:14:46 > 0:14:49That's a big John Byrne thing.

0:14:49 > 0:14:52I'm going to hold my hands up, when I first read the script I was,

0:14:52 > 0:14:55like, some of it, I didn't get.

0:14:55 > 0:14:57It's from my nana's kind of era.

0:14:57 > 0:14:59You know, going up the dancing and cutting a rug,

0:14:59 > 0:15:01and all that kind of stuff.

0:15:01 > 0:15:03And I think that's what people love about it,

0:15:03 > 0:15:06that it's from a bygone time.

0:15:06 > 0:15:08You know, it reminds them of their nana,

0:15:08 > 0:15:10and of, "Oh, yeah, my grandad and his quiff,"

0:15:10 > 0:15:12you know, it reminds me of all that.

0:15:12 > 0:15:16# Dum, dum, dum, dummy-doo-wah

0:15:16 > 0:15:20# Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

0:15:20 > 0:15:25# Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-ooh-ah

0:15:25 > 0:15:28# Only the lonely

0:15:29 > 0:15:31# Only the lonely. #

0:15:31 > 0:15:33People remembered lines.

0:15:33 > 0:15:38These John Byrne-isms that were so memorable from the TV show,

0:15:38 > 0:15:41that hadn't been in popular culture for 20 years,

0:15:41 > 0:15:44still remained in the audience's mind.

0:15:46 > 0:15:47What you mean, it was OK?

0:15:49 > 0:15:52Three minutes is a lot better than a lot of guys could manage

0:15:52 > 0:15:53coming straight off a Silver Jubilee tour.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55And it was more like five minutes,

0:15:55 > 0:15:58I can see the alarm clock from this side of the bed.

0:15:58 > 0:15:59I'm not always a disaster.

0:16:01 > 0:16:02Is that you finished? See, there you go again,

0:16:02 > 0:16:05that's twice you've asked that in the past three minutes.

0:16:05 > 0:16:06Correction, five minutes.

0:16:07 > 0:16:10John Byrne was in the rehearsal room,

0:16:10 > 0:16:12and he had a manual typewriter,

0:16:12 > 0:16:15and you'd see him watching what you were doing.

0:16:15 > 0:16:16Every so often you'd hear...

0:16:16 > 0:16:18HE MAKES A TYPING NOISE

0:16:18 > 0:16:21And you'd go... Oh, I've not said that right.

0:16:21 > 0:16:23And then he would come up at the end of the scene

0:16:23 > 0:16:25and hand you bit of paper, and go...

0:16:25 > 0:16:26"Try that."

0:16:26 > 0:16:28And you'd look at it and go, "Ah!

0:16:28 > 0:16:30"Absolute genius."

0:16:30 > 0:16:32Ladies and gentlemen...

0:16:33 > 0:16:34..The Majestics!

0:16:34 > 0:16:36# Bop bopa-a-lu a whop bam boo

0:16:36 > 0:16:38# Tutti frutti, oh, Rudy

0:16:38 > 0:16:40# Tutti frutti, oh, Rudy... #

0:16:40 > 0:16:43They're not a great band.

0:16:43 > 0:16:46They weren't meant to be this, kind of, polished, you know,

0:16:46 > 0:16:49brilliant band. It's this dysfunctional band.

0:16:49 > 0:16:51So even though it was a bit rough around the edges,

0:16:51 > 0:16:53you had to just keep thinking,

0:16:53 > 0:16:55"Well, this is real and this is what it would be like."

0:16:55 > 0:16:59They wanted it to be raw and live, and done every night,

0:16:59 > 0:17:03so it wasn't some track that you were miming to.

0:17:05 > 0:17:06# Yeah!

0:17:06 > 0:17:08# Tutti frutti, oh, Rudy... #

0:17:08 > 0:17:11It was a complete and utter joy from start to finish.

0:17:11 > 0:17:12It was odd,

0:17:12 > 0:17:15it was... Fun. ..fun.

0:17:15 > 0:17:17Quite scary.

0:17:17 > 0:17:19But really, really, exciting at the same time.

0:17:19 > 0:17:22Yeah, you knew you were part of something special.

0:17:22 > 0:17:27Yeah. I think. With the NTS, but especially with Tutti Frutti.

0:17:27 > 0:17:31# Bop bopa-a-lu a whop bam boo. #

0:17:31 > 0:17:33APPLAUSE

0:17:38 > 0:17:39Gathered in a theatre,

0:17:39 > 0:17:42Scots rarely reflect the dour image often projected

0:17:42 > 0:17:44onto the national character.

0:17:45 > 0:17:47Nor has the Scottish character been adequately expressed

0:17:47 > 0:17:49through macho stereotype.

0:17:50 > 0:17:52A richer, glittering persona

0:17:52 > 0:17:56has always had its flamboyant voice on our stages, too.

0:17:56 > 0:17:58In 2007, its incarnation

0:17:58 > 0:18:02was Alan Cummings' rock god, Dionysius, in The Bacchae.

0:18:04 > 0:18:09It started with me being lowered, by my ankles,

0:18:09 > 0:18:14with my back to the audience, like a god, descending.

0:18:14 > 0:18:17I had a gold kilt outfit on and so basically, you know,

0:18:17 > 0:18:21the first thing was my bum at the beginning of the Bacchae.

0:18:21 > 0:18:23It's an inverted cross.

0:18:23 > 0:18:25Which didn't escape me.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27And then David wrote this line for Alan.

0:18:27 > 0:18:29So, Thebes...

0:18:32 > 0:18:34..I'm back!

0:18:34 > 0:18:37I hadn't appeared on a Scottish stage for 16 years.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40It was a ballsy thing to do. It was a ballsy decision,

0:18:40 > 0:18:41it was a ballsy kind of start.

0:18:41 > 0:18:45For your benefit, I appear in human form.

0:18:45 > 0:18:46Like you...

0:18:46 > 0:18:48fleshy.

0:18:48 > 0:18:51Man, woman - it was a close-run thing.

0:18:51 > 0:18:57He decided to make Dionysius this kind of returning rock star.

0:18:57 > 0:18:59The music was very kind of, um...

0:18:59 > 0:19:03rousing and anthemy when Dionysius sang

0:19:03 > 0:19:05and when the girls backed him up.

0:19:05 > 0:19:08And there's nothing like, you know,

0:19:08 > 0:19:11playing a god, singing your head off,

0:19:11 > 0:19:14being backed up by nine gorgeous black girls.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16It doesn't get much better than that.

0:19:16 > 0:19:19# We are the Bacchae!

0:19:19 > 0:19:22# We left our homes

0:19:22 > 0:19:26# To give ourselves to him

0:19:26 > 0:19:29# It's free work

0:19:29 > 0:19:31# It's easy work

0:19:31 > 0:19:33# You! You!

0:19:33 > 0:19:36# You stand quiet

0:19:36 > 0:19:40# In front of your houses

0:19:40 > 0:19:47# Kneel down

0:19:47 > 0:19:49# For Dionysus... #

0:19:49 > 0:19:52Gospel is the facilitator of religious ecstasy

0:19:52 > 0:19:53in such a brilliant, brilliant way.

0:19:53 > 0:19:56So we'd always wanted that kind of energy.

0:19:56 > 0:19:59Aretha Franklin, you know, through to Whitney Huston.

0:19:59 > 0:20:05That kind of amazing power of sexuality - black, female power -

0:20:05 > 0:20:07was what we wanted to tap into.

0:20:07 > 0:20:08# Do it, do it, do it

0:20:08 > 0:20:10# Let's scream demands

0:20:10 > 0:20:13# Let's scream demands, everyone in the land

0:20:13 > 0:20:14# Everyone must dance

0:20:14 > 0:20:17# Everyone in the land must dance to the mountain

0:20:17 > 0:20:19# Everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone in the land

0:20:19 > 0:20:23# Must dance to the mountain, where the women wait

0:20:23 > 0:20:25# Joy! Joy!

0:20:25 > 0:20:29# Joy to you who come

0:20:29 > 0:20:31# To the mountain... #

0:20:31 > 0:20:33I loved the fact that music

0:20:33 > 0:20:35was such a big element of The Bacchae.

0:20:35 > 0:20:38I mean, there is always singing in that show,

0:20:38 > 0:20:42but taking a sort of contemporary style and putting it into a play,

0:20:42 > 0:20:46so that you merge both the ancient and the modern.

0:20:46 > 0:20:49That's what makes exciting theatre.

0:20:49 > 0:20:52And I think that's what Scottish theatre's always done, actually.

0:20:52 > 0:20:53# Yes, we flow with milk

0:20:53 > 0:20:55# Yes, we flow with wine

0:20:55 > 0:20:57# Yes, we are made of honey... #

0:20:57 > 0:21:00I think in Scotland, in general, we've got quite a good,

0:21:00 > 0:21:04healthy connection with bacchanalia in all its forms.

0:21:04 > 0:21:06We're quite sensual people.

0:21:06 > 0:21:08We all enjoy drinking, we all enjoy letting go.

0:21:08 > 0:21:10It's part of our culture.

0:21:11 > 0:21:14Having been away from Scotland so much of my adult life,

0:21:14 > 0:21:18I really think I understand what makes me Scottish

0:21:18 > 0:21:21and what makes which parts of my style of performing

0:21:21 > 0:21:23come from Scottish theatre.

0:21:23 > 0:21:25A lot of it is to do with, kind of,

0:21:25 > 0:21:29breaking the fourth wall and using music

0:21:29 > 0:21:33and connecting with the audience in a very direct way.

0:21:33 > 0:21:36As a country, we all tell a story, we all do a turn.

0:21:36 > 0:21:39I think, at our core, we've got a really great sort of ability

0:21:39 > 0:21:44to just engage and, you know, do our turn.

0:21:44 > 0:21:46That's what I've been doing all these years.

0:21:46 > 0:21:48# Yes! Yes!

0:21:48 > 0:21:51# Yeeesssss! #

0:21:53 > 0:21:56Scotland's National Theatre was starting to find its place.

0:21:58 > 0:21:59Some of what it did broke new ground.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03Some strengthened older traditions.

0:22:03 > 0:22:08Other aspects of Scottish experience had yet to be addressed.

0:22:08 > 0:22:11But there is one constant in the life of any theatre company,

0:22:11 > 0:22:14a continual argument as to the value of creative arts.

0:22:16 > 0:22:19In 2008, the UK had entered another recession.

0:22:21 > 0:22:23And the argument had to be made for the necessity

0:22:23 > 0:22:26of bringing live theatre to every part of a nation.

0:22:28 > 0:22:32Often the best argument that can be made is to do so,

0:22:32 > 0:22:34and demonstrate its effect.

0:22:35 > 0:22:37The National Theatre of Scotland

0:22:37 > 0:22:41took a wide range of its productions to the furthest venues in the land.

0:22:42 > 0:22:44One of these was Long Gone Lonesome,

0:22:44 > 0:22:46the story of Shetland's Thomas Fraser.

0:22:49 > 0:22:52I was approached by the National Theatre of Scotland

0:22:52 > 0:22:54round about 2008.

0:22:54 > 0:22:57They asked me if I'd ever heard of Thomas Fraser.

0:22:57 > 0:23:00I said, "What, you mean the singing creelman from Shetland?

0:23:00 > 0:23:02"Yeah, I've heard of him."

0:23:04 > 0:23:06The opening scene, for me, was fantastic.

0:23:07 > 0:23:12They put on a simple reel-to-reel player, like Thomas had,

0:23:12 > 0:23:15and it was all dark. The only thing lit was the machine.

0:23:15 > 0:23:19And out came My Melancholy Blues.

0:23:19 > 0:23:22And it was the closest thing you'll ever get

0:23:22 > 0:23:24to a live Thomas Fraser performance.

0:23:24 > 0:23:30TINNY RECORDING: # Because I got those melancholy blues... #

0:23:30 > 0:23:33He was a very shy performer in his younger days.

0:23:33 > 0:23:38So, latterly, when I was growing up, he wasn't performing any more.

0:23:38 > 0:23:40But he was still doing his tapes.

0:23:40 > 0:23:43And people would give him blank tapes

0:23:43 > 0:23:46and ask him to record for them.

0:23:46 > 0:23:47There was a lot of that.

0:23:49 > 0:23:52Almost all the theatre pieces I've ever written

0:23:52 > 0:23:55have been simple, straightforward

0:23:55 > 0:23:59and about establishing that direct contact with the audience.

0:23:59 > 0:24:01So, when electricity arrived in Burra,

0:24:01 > 0:24:04what was the first thing that Thomas Fraser -

0:24:04 > 0:24:06a 26-year-old bachelor, crofter,

0:24:06 > 0:24:09fisherman, fiddler, would-be singer -

0:24:09 > 0:24:12what was the first thing he rushed out to buy?

0:24:12 > 0:24:15So when I started to work with Vicky Featherstone,

0:24:15 > 0:24:19my natural inclination towards direct address

0:24:19 > 0:24:23and her natural inclination towards finding something stripped down,

0:24:23 > 0:24:26and immediately effective,

0:24:26 > 0:24:27these two things came together.

0:24:27 > 0:24:30We were singing off the same hymn sheet.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33It was the latest in cutting-edge technology -

0:24:33 > 0:24:35a reel-to-reel tape recorder.

0:24:35 > 0:24:38I think my favourite moment of the play

0:24:38 > 0:24:40is where we hear Thomas singing.

0:24:40 > 0:24:45And he's singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow, which is a surprising song.

0:24:45 > 0:24:48It's a showtune, it's a Hollywood number.

0:24:48 > 0:24:51TAPE: # Somewhere

0:24:51 > 0:24:55# Over the rainbow... #

0:24:55 > 0:24:56Most of the time,

0:24:56 > 0:24:58he did down-to-earth blues or heartfelt country songs,

0:24:58 > 0:25:01and here he is doing a Judy Garland number.

0:25:01 > 0:25:04But he's got a fantastically inventive arrangement for it,

0:25:04 > 0:25:07and it becomes almost like soul music.

0:25:07 > 0:25:09# ..once in a lullaby

0:25:11 > 0:25:15# Somewhere

0:25:15 > 0:25:17# Over the rainbow... #

0:25:17 > 0:25:22And then, me and the band join in, backing him up.

0:25:22 > 0:25:24So instead of just being Thomas and his acoustic guitar,

0:25:24 > 0:25:25he's got a whole band behind him.

0:25:25 > 0:25:29And then I had to join in singing harmonies to his lead vocals.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32# Someday I'll wish upon a star

0:25:32 > 0:25:36# And wake up where the clouds are far behind me

0:25:37 > 0:25:40# Oh, yeah...

0:25:41 > 0:25:44It was sort of surreal but, um...

0:25:45 > 0:25:47..really, really well done.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51And we enjoyed, you know, we enjoyed every minute of it.

0:25:51 > 0:25:56I felt that the National Theatre's play really made a terrific job

0:25:56 > 0:25:59of putting Thomas Fraser across.

0:25:59 > 0:26:03His personality, his musical ability,

0:26:03 > 0:26:07the environment and the circumstances he faced.

0:26:07 > 0:26:11I was very proud. It was a great moment for us.

0:26:11 > 0:26:13A great moment for Thomas.

0:26:16 > 0:26:19Every song in the play was one that Thomas recorded,

0:26:19 > 0:26:24sometimes favourite numbers of his that he recorded many times.

0:26:24 > 0:26:26But, as I was writing the play, I...

0:26:28 > 0:26:30..struggled to find a song that would sum up everything

0:26:30 > 0:26:33that had come before, or at least sum up everything

0:26:33 > 0:26:36I'd come to understand about his character.

0:26:37 > 0:26:39And I was searching around, thinking,

0:26:39 > 0:26:43"In all these hundreds of numbers he recorded, there must be one."

0:26:43 > 0:26:44And I couldn't find one.

0:26:44 > 0:26:48But then I did stumble across a song

0:26:48 > 0:26:51that felt like he should have recorded it.

0:26:51 > 0:26:57# I don't want to set the world on fire... #

0:26:58 > 0:27:00It's about somebody who has

0:27:00 > 0:27:04no ambition for worldly fame or fortune,

0:27:04 > 0:27:07he just wants to light a flame in one person's heart,

0:27:07 > 0:27:09the person he loves.

0:27:09 > 0:27:11But I felt that's what Thomas was doing with his music.

0:27:11 > 0:27:14He has no interest in going to the London Palladium.

0:27:14 > 0:27:15He wanted to record his songs,

0:27:15 > 0:27:19or play them to one or two people who were in the room with him.

0:27:19 > 0:27:22And he would light the flame of music in their heart.

0:27:22 > 0:27:25# I've got no ambition

0:27:25 > 0:27:27# For worldly acclaim

0:27:27 > 0:27:31# I just want to be the one you love

0:27:31 > 0:27:33# And with your admission

0:27:33 > 0:27:35# You'd feel the same

0:27:35 > 0:27:41# I have reached the goal I'm dreaming of...

0:27:41 > 0:27:43I think there's lots of untold stories out there,

0:27:43 > 0:27:45lots of local heroes.

0:27:45 > 0:27:47I think the National Theatre are doing a great job

0:27:47 > 0:27:51in taking these stories out to the wider world.

0:27:51 > 0:27:55# ..a flame in your heart. #

0:28:01 > 0:28:05The National Theatre of Scotland was now five years old.

0:28:05 > 0:28:09Its slogan, Theatre Without Walls, had been realised in many forms

0:28:09 > 0:28:13while always recognising particular Scottish theatrical traditions.

0:28:17 > 0:28:19I killed him!

0:28:20 > 0:28:23And in 2011, the very particular nature

0:28:23 > 0:28:26of Scottish political identity was soon to become clear.

0:28:29 > 0:28:32History demonstrates that Scotland has often made different choices

0:28:32 > 0:28:34to her southern neighbours.

0:28:34 > 0:28:37We shall bring forward a referendum,

0:28:37 > 0:28:41and trust the people with Scotland's own constitutional future.

0:28:43 > 0:28:45And as those tensions became increasingly evident,

0:28:45 > 0:28:49the National Theatre looked back to the culture of our borderlands

0:28:49 > 0:28:51with The Strange Undoing Of Prudencia Hart.

0:28:52 > 0:28:59# I heard twa corbies makin a mane

0:29:01 > 0:29:06# The tane unto the other did say

0:29:06 > 0:29:10# "Oh, whar sall we gang..." #

0:29:10 > 0:29:15Vicky said to us, she wanted to do something about the Borders

0:29:15 > 0:29:17and I knew about Border ballads

0:29:17 > 0:29:20and so she sent us to Kelso,

0:29:20 > 0:29:23where we stayed for a couple of days

0:29:23 > 0:29:26and interviewed various people.

0:29:26 > 0:29:30We went to the pub and there was a folk session.

0:29:30 > 0:29:36And a huge amount of that two days ended up in the play.

0:29:36 > 0:29:40# His hawk is tae the huntin gane

0:29:40 > 0:29:44# His hound tae fetch the wild-fowl hame

0:29:44 > 0:29:49# His lady's tain anither mate

0:29:49 > 0:29:54# So we may mak oor dinner swate

0:29:54 > 0:30:01# So we may mak oor dinner swate. #

0:30:02 > 0:30:05I wanted to make a story that you could...

0:30:05 > 0:30:09A yarn, you know, something you could sit and tell over a pint.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11It's difficult to know where to start

0:30:11 > 0:30:15With the strange undoing of Prudencia Hart.

0:30:15 > 0:30:19Then the act of translating that into rhyming couplets

0:30:19 > 0:30:23was a means of harnessing that story's power.

0:30:23 > 0:30:27And storytelling, that most misused of all arts.

0:30:27 > 0:30:30Horses absolutely must not go ahead of carts.

0:30:30 > 0:30:33There's a central idea as well, which we were both driven by,

0:30:33 > 0:30:36which was the theatricality of the troupe.

0:30:36 > 0:30:41The travelling band of actors, who have, at their fingertips,

0:30:41 > 0:30:45the skills of song, music, storytelling, mime, gesture.

0:30:45 > 0:30:50Prudencia Hart, then, was a prudent 28-year-old postgraduate student.

0:30:50 > 0:30:53And, indeed, you know, the ability

0:30:53 > 0:30:55to create set and theatricality out of nothing.

0:30:55 > 0:30:58And you think of it in Scottish terms,

0:30:58 > 0:31:02it goes back through Communicado and Gerry Mulgrew's work,

0:31:02 > 0:31:04It goes back through 7:84.

0:31:04 > 0:31:06It's the folk tradition of theatricality.

0:31:08 > 0:31:11CRACKLY, INDISTINCT HUMMING OF A BALLAD

0:31:11 > 0:31:12This is nice. Nice?

0:31:12 > 0:31:15It's Robert Burns.

0:31:15 > 0:31:18Oh? It's sung by Robert Burns.

0:31:18 > 0:31:20That's Burns' own voice.

0:31:20 > 0:31:24In a pub, in Mauchline, in 1789.

0:31:25 > 0:31:28I found the record under a pile of lectures by Hume,

0:31:28 > 0:31:31in a box labelled "pornographic etchings".

0:31:31 > 0:31:33LAUGHTER

0:31:33 > 0:31:36And so I think, to me, that way of storytelling,

0:31:36 > 0:31:39where you mix all these forms together,

0:31:39 > 0:31:40yes, it's a really Scottish tradition,

0:31:40 > 0:31:44and I feel very proud that we appear to be, sort of,

0:31:44 > 0:31:45cornering a market in it,

0:31:45 > 0:31:47but at the same time I don't think it's just Scottish.

0:31:47 > 0:31:49I think it's absolutely universal.

0:31:49 > 0:31:53As, I think, is attested to the fact that Prudencia has been able

0:31:53 > 0:31:57to tour the world to similar responses wherever it's been.

0:31:57 > 0:32:01# I just

0:32:01 > 0:32:05# Can't get you out

0:32:05 > 0:32:07# Of my head

0:32:10 > 0:32:13# Oh, your loving

0:32:14 > 0:32:18# Is all I think about... #

0:32:19 > 0:32:21It was a wonderful, wonderful experience.

0:32:21 > 0:32:23It was really very, very enjoyable.

0:32:23 > 0:32:26It's a beautifully anarchic piece of work.

0:32:26 > 0:32:29Oh, yeah. There's so much energy.

0:32:29 > 0:32:30# La-la-la, la-la la-la-la... #

0:32:30 > 0:32:32Everybody was drawn into the action.

0:32:32 > 0:32:36I think it's a marvellous piece of work.

0:32:36 > 0:32:38I think the best thing about it, it's theatre for everybody.

0:32:38 > 0:32:41It's not a theatre for people that live in the big city

0:32:41 > 0:32:44or have access to those facilities.

0:32:51 > 0:32:54It's taken drama and taken it where it should be,

0:32:54 > 0:32:57which is at the heart of a community.

0:32:57 > 0:32:59And getting people involved.

0:32:59 > 0:33:02Which they certainly were tonight.

0:33:02 > 0:33:04CHEERING

0:33:15 > 0:33:17A GAELIC REEL IS SUNG

0:33:21 > 0:33:24Scots song, Scots story and Scots poetry.

0:33:25 > 0:33:28A National Theatre inherits a responsibility

0:33:28 > 0:33:31to represent all the voices of the nation.

0:33:31 > 0:33:32In its brief life,

0:33:32 > 0:33:36the company has only begun to wrestle with that gigantic task.

0:33:38 > 0:33:40But it has frequently honoured

0:33:40 > 0:33:43another ancient Scottish theatrical tradition -

0:33:43 > 0:33:45producing work which highlights social issues

0:33:45 > 0:33:47and challenges political power.

0:33:49 > 0:33:52The true story of the Glasgow Girls' fight for justice

0:33:52 > 0:33:54for families seeking asylum in the city

0:33:54 > 0:33:57had captured the attention of the nation.

0:33:58 > 0:34:01Now it was given theatrical form.

0:34:03 > 0:34:04My name's Agnesa.

0:34:04 > 0:34:06In March 2005, I was detained

0:34:06 > 0:34:10and taken to Jarlswood detention centre from these flats.

0:34:10 > 0:34:14Then one day, there was an empty seat on the bus.

0:34:17 > 0:34:19Aggie? Agnesa? Where's Agnesa gone?!

0:34:19 > 0:34:21LOUD THUDS

0:34:21 > 0:34:24'..Home Office Border Agency health and safety report.'

0:34:24 > 0:34:27'Dawn raid, Glasgow, 2005.'

0:34:27 > 0:34:29She'd been living in Glasgow for five years at that time.

0:34:29 > 0:34:33And for her to be treated so cruelly was just really inhumane.

0:34:33 > 0:34:36I think we all felt really, like, angry and upset.

0:34:36 > 0:34:41We were crying our eyes out in the corridor of our school.

0:34:41 > 0:34:44That one of our friends was just taken away.

0:34:44 > 0:34:46I felt really angry. I felt as though

0:34:46 > 0:34:50it wasn't really the kind of impression of our country

0:34:50 > 0:34:51that I wanted to give.

0:34:51 > 0:34:53We want to help. It's just not right.

0:34:53 > 0:34:55I can't believe this is happening in Scotland.

0:34:55 > 0:34:57You want to help? I know we don't know you guys that well,

0:34:57 > 0:35:00but Agnesa's one of us now. We can't just let folk take her away.

0:35:00 > 0:35:03If you're on strike for Agnesa, we're on strike, too.

0:35:03 > 0:35:06I'd been very aware of the story, way back in 2005.

0:35:06 > 0:35:08I thought this story -

0:35:08 > 0:35:11particularly because it's led by a group of teenage girls

0:35:11 > 0:35:14that just have a passion for life

0:35:14 > 0:35:19and a kind of defiance and a kind of fearlessness -

0:35:19 > 0:35:24I thought, "This deserves a bigger, bolder, more popular form."

0:35:24 > 0:35:27And I thought that a musical was the best way to do that.

0:35:27 > 0:35:29I just looked at her and thought, "What?"

0:35:29 > 0:35:31And she's like, "A musical." And I was like,

0:35:31 > 0:35:34"Do you know what our story's about? It's about child detention.

0:35:34 > 0:35:36"How are you going to make a musical about that?"

0:35:36 > 0:35:38If you've come to see triumph over adversity,

0:35:38 > 0:35:41I'm afraid you're going to be a little bit disappointed.

0:35:41 > 0:35:43Our story is mostly about photocopying.

0:35:43 > 0:35:46Amal! What?

0:35:46 > 0:35:48I must have burst out laughing, I mean,

0:35:48 > 0:35:50how on Earth she was going to turn our story

0:35:50 > 0:35:53about seven wee lasses from Drumchapel

0:35:53 > 0:35:57campaigning for the rights of child refugees, I didn't know.

0:35:57 > 0:35:59But she did a wonderful job.

0:35:59 > 0:36:03And the way it turned out, it's kind of like a love letter to Glasgow.

0:36:03 > 0:36:06# We're at home in Glasgow

0:36:06 > 0:36:09# It's really not that bad

0:36:09 > 0:36:13# There's bits of the city that are pretty shitty

0:36:13 > 0:36:16# But at least it's not Baghdad

0:36:17 > 0:36:21# We're at home in Glasgow

0:36:21 > 0:36:24# We're getting on quite well

0:36:24 > 0:36:28# They say it's a hard and a difficult place

0:36:28 > 0:36:30# But trust us

0:36:30 > 0:36:34# They know nothing

0:36:34 > 0:36:36# About hell... #

0:36:36 > 0:36:39I had been developing close relationships with the girls.

0:36:39 > 0:36:42I'd absolutely vowed I would involve them at every stage of the way.

0:36:42 > 0:36:44And we stuck to our word.

0:36:44 > 0:36:47Let's just go over Emma and Jennifer arriving in.

0:36:49 > 0:36:52At the end of a long week where I'd been working

0:36:52 > 0:36:55with all the actresses, the girls walked into the room,

0:36:55 > 0:36:59and at that point are actresses were right in the middle of singing

0:36:59 > 0:37:01a five-part harmony of what was to be the anthem,

0:37:01 > 0:37:03We Are The Glasgow Girls.

0:37:03 > 0:37:05# We are the Glasgow girls

0:37:05 > 0:37:07# We show them how to do it when we... #

0:37:07 > 0:37:09And the real girls came into the room

0:37:09 > 0:37:12and I think they were quite blown away by it.

0:37:12 > 0:37:14# The Glasgow girls together, we are strong... #

0:37:14 > 0:37:16We all started crying, and they cried,

0:37:16 > 0:37:18and nobody knew why everybody was crying,

0:37:18 > 0:37:21but it was a great feeling.

0:37:22 > 0:37:25When I seen my actress, I was like, "Oh, my God.

0:37:25 > 0:37:29"She's actually just like me, she just acts the way I act."

0:37:29 > 0:37:32I was quite shocked that Cora picked the individuals

0:37:32 > 0:37:33for the right people.

0:37:35 > 0:37:38And I got to a stage where I was like, a bit emotional,

0:37:38 > 0:37:42because it took me back to when I was detained.

0:37:42 > 0:37:46SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE

0:37:58 > 0:38:01The music really captures your emotions.

0:38:02 > 0:38:06Especially if you don't know the story, as you go along with it,

0:38:06 > 0:38:09and you listen to the story, the music's in the background.

0:38:09 > 0:38:11People that have never really known about it

0:38:11 > 0:38:13then understand the feelings that are there.

0:38:13 > 0:38:14# We are the Glasgow Girls

0:38:14 > 0:38:16# We'll show them how to do it... #

0:38:16 > 0:38:18Teenagers get a really bad press.

0:38:18 > 0:38:21I think we underestimate their skill and their bravery.

0:38:21 > 0:38:23Here was a bunch of girls who wanted to be lawyers,

0:38:23 > 0:38:26who wanted to be activists, who wanted to, literally,

0:38:26 > 0:38:30go out and grab the world and change it and make it better.

0:38:30 > 0:38:33# Glasgow Girls will show them how to do it... #

0:38:33 > 0:38:36If seven Glasgow girls can make a difference, then anybody can.

0:38:36 > 0:38:38Especially coming from Drumchapel as well.

0:38:38 > 0:38:40# We are the Glasgow Girls! #

0:38:46 > 0:38:48After seven years, a new stage

0:38:48 > 0:38:51of the National Theatre of Scotland's existence began

0:38:51 > 0:38:54as Laurie Sansome took up the position of artistic director.

0:38:57 > 0:39:00One of his first jobs was to grapple with how to respond

0:39:00 > 0:39:04to a much anticipated vote, when, in 2014,

0:39:04 > 0:39:07the nation was asked to make a historic decision.

0:39:07 > 0:39:10Hey, girls. What youse talking about?

0:39:10 > 0:39:12The referendum. Oh, God.

0:39:12 > 0:39:14The National Theatre of Scotland produced a timely

0:39:14 > 0:39:17theatrical response, with a whole range of productions

0:39:17 > 0:39:20as the community of Scotland made up its mind.

0:39:21 > 0:39:25With independence, we will be a fairer and more successful country.

0:39:31 > 0:39:34A time when Scotland was struggling to reach consensus

0:39:34 > 0:39:37on the strength of her desire for independence.

0:39:37 > 0:39:39When she was alternately threatened

0:39:39 > 0:39:41and wooed by her powerful southern neighbour.

0:39:41 > 0:39:45When her own internal divisions seemed likely to erupt.

0:39:49 > 0:39:53Not 2014, but 1424.

0:39:56 > 0:40:00The James Plays Trilogy demonstrated that the history being made now

0:40:00 > 0:40:02had deep and familiar roots.

0:40:03 > 0:40:07Cos I'm a bit passionate about Scottish history,

0:40:07 > 0:40:12it became my ambition to try and make that period of Scottish history

0:40:12 > 0:40:14visible to Scotland.

0:40:14 > 0:40:17Whenever I've talked to any audience or any group,

0:40:17 > 0:40:19they all say, with this note of apology,

0:40:19 > 0:40:22"Of course, I don't know anything about this period of history."

0:40:22 > 0:40:23Well, the truth is, nobody does.

0:40:23 > 0:40:26And I think that, particularly at the time I was writing,

0:40:26 > 0:40:31was a moment when Scotland was examining what it was as a nation.

0:40:31 > 0:40:33And it felt like a really fertile moment

0:40:33 > 0:40:36to bring these plays to the stage.

0:40:36 > 0:40:38Sorry, are you still...?

0:40:38 > 0:40:39What?

0:40:39 > 0:40:42I don't want to disturb your prayers. Oh, no. I'm finished.

0:40:42 > 0:40:45I was waiting on you. Good. No, I'm finished.

0:40:47 > 0:40:48So...

0:40:49 > 0:40:52..now we're married. Yes.

0:40:52 > 0:40:55We'll have the wedding blessed again in Scotland,

0:40:55 > 0:40:58and then we can have our wedding night. Yes.

0:40:58 > 0:41:02The characters all talk a very contemporary form of Scots,

0:41:02 > 0:41:05so that people could really get that sense of,

0:41:05 > 0:41:07this, in a sense, is happening now.

0:41:07 > 0:41:08Or is still happening now.

0:41:08 > 0:41:11We're still connected to these lives,

0:41:11 > 0:41:14and they're still affecting decisions we make today.

0:41:14 > 0:41:16I asked to see the Treasury papers.

0:41:16 > 0:41:18Why? Because someone has to start helping you.

0:41:18 > 0:41:21Have you looked at these? God, no. There is no money, James.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24A choir, Margaret, a few singers.

0:41:24 > 0:41:25How many?

0:41:26 > 0:41:29A small choir. How many? Only 40 or so. No.

0:41:29 > 0:41:31I wrote Queen Margaret of Denmark,

0:41:31 > 0:41:33and every time anyone talked about casting,

0:41:33 > 0:41:34I went, "Yeah, Sofie Grabol."

0:41:34 > 0:41:37And everyone's going, "Yeah, right. Like you're going..."

0:41:37 > 0:41:39And I was going, "Ask her! Ask her! Just ask her!"

0:41:39 > 0:41:41And they did. And she said yes.

0:41:41 > 0:41:46I must say, when the project was presented to me,

0:41:46 > 0:41:50I thought, "I don't have the nerve to do that."

0:41:50 > 0:41:53Because, I mean, one thing is to...

0:41:54 > 0:41:58..to take on a great part, a big part.

0:41:58 > 0:42:00But in another language than your own?

0:42:01 > 0:42:03But then I read it.

0:42:03 > 0:42:06Who would want the job of ruling Scotland?

0:42:07 > 0:42:12I'm Danish, you ignorant, abusive lump of manure.

0:42:13 > 0:42:17I come from a rational nation with reasonable people.

0:42:19 > 0:42:20You know the problem with you lot?

0:42:21 > 0:42:24You've got fuck all except attitude.

0:42:24 > 0:42:28You scream and shout about how you want things done,

0:42:28 > 0:42:32and how things ought to be done, and when the chance comes?

0:42:32 > 0:42:33Look at you.

0:42:35 > 0:42:36What are you frightened of?

0:42:36 > 0:42:38Making things worse?

0:42:38 > 0:42:40I remember actually,

0:42:40 > 0:42:45when she said, "You've got fuck all except attitude,"

0:42:45 > 0:42:47I remember the reaction in Edinburgh,

0:42:47 > 0:42:51in the Festival Theatre, was so massive.

0:42:51 > 0:42:55And very often people applauded.

0:42:55 > 0:43:00And they always laughed and cheered, and it was like you felt this...

0:43:02 > 0:43:07..this very strong focus on, "Who are we Scottish people?"

0:43:07 > 0:43:08When I first started writing,

0:43:08 > 0:43:11we didn't know there was going to be a referendum.

0:43:11 > 0:43:13And then it was, I think,

0:43:13 > 0:43:17halfway through the writing process that we found out

0:43:17 > 0:43:20there was going to be one and also it was going to be in 2014.

0:43:20 > 0:43:22And I remember thinking at that point,

0:43:22 > 0:43:25"Oh, please, please let them go on that year."

0:43:25 > 0:43:29Because, of course, it added so much for an audience.

0:43:29 > 0:43:30I think, probably,

0:43:30 > 0:43:33the most exciting moment in my professional life

0:43:33 > 0:43:38was when the plays were on in Edinburgh, before the referendum

0:43:38 > 0:43:43and feeling how the attention of the audience came alive

0:43:43 > 0:43:47at all the moments that were actually talking about

0:43:47 > 0:43:48what it meant to be Scottish,

0:43:48 > 0:43:52what it meant to be independently Scottish, or not.

0:43:52 > 0:43:55Would one of you please explain to me

0:43:55 > 0:43:58why it is I still love you so much?

0:43:59 > 0:44:01Would someone please tell me...

0:44:01 > 0:44:04SHE SCOFFS ..why a rational woman,

0:44:04 > 0:44:08born in a reasonable country,

0:44:08 > 0:44:11would rather live here and be your Queen

0:44:11 > 0:44:15than exist in quiet, happy peace anywhere else on Earth?

0:44:17 > 0:44:20I am the Queen of Scots.

0:44:20 > 0:44:22And I don't always like that.

0:44:24 > 0:44:26But I do love it.

0:44:27 > 0:44:28Always.

0:44:31 > 0:44:34From the referendum to the general election,

0:44:34 > 0:44:36two potent and particular results.

0:44:36 > 0:44:39Politicians and pundits are still arguing

0:44:39 > 0:44:40their meaning and consequences.

0:44:42 > 0:44:45However, it was undeniable that, at this moment,

0:44:45 > 0:44:47Scottish audiences were vividly aware

0:44:47 > 0:44:49of their own cultural identity.

0:44:50 > 0:44:53The National Theatre's voice had developed into something

0:44:53 > 0:44:55as uniquely Scottish as its audience.

0:44:57 > 0:45:00It had all the vigour of its strong tradition of song and story,

0:45:00 > 0:45:03but still remained youthful and rebellious.

0:45:03 > 0:45:06Demonstrated by Our Ladies Of Perpetual Succour,

0:45:06 > 0:45:11based on Alan Warner's novel, The Sopranos.

0:45:11 > 0:45:13# ..whence cometh

0:45:13 > 0:45:16# Whence cometh

0:45:16 > 0:45:20# Whence cometh hell... #

0:45:20 > 0:45:24The play is about six Roman Catholic schoolgirls from Oban,

0:45:24 > 0:45:27who are travelling to Edinburgh for the choir competition,

0:45:27 > 0:45:30but the choir competition is the last thing on their minds.

0:45:30 > 0:45:36# Lift thine eyes O, lift thine eyes

0:45:36 > 0:45:40# Eyes to the mountains

0:45:40 > 0:45:43# Whence cometh

0:45:43 > 0:45:45# Whence cometh

0:45:45 > 0:45:49# Whence cometh hell. #

0:45:49 > 0:45:53It's so out there. It's so full-on, in your face.

0:45:53 > 0:45:56No holds barred, and there's no apology for it.

0:46:04 > 0:46:06This is fucking ridiculous!

0:46:06 > 0:46:09Six in the fucking morning, and Condom's not even here.

0:46:09 > 0:46:13My wife was in a school choir, Catholic school choir.

0:46:13 > 0:46:16And I'd been hearing lots of stories

0:46:16 > 0:46:17about the adventures they'd had.

0:46:17 > 0:46:20On the bus, ladies! Yes!

0:46:20 > 0:46:21Got the goods, girls?

0:46:21 > 0:46:24Two bottles of lemon-flavoured Hooch,

0:46:24 > 0:46:27disguised in a bottle of White's Lemonade. Whoo!

0:46:27 > 0:46:31The idea was to move this choir from the countryside down to the city

0:46:31 > 0:46:33and then back to the country again.

0:46:33 > 0:46:37That idea of transition has a dramatic element to it

0:46:37 > 0:46:39that interests me very much.

0:46:39 > 0:46:43So that contrast was something I wanted to explore.

0:46:43 > 0:46:45We've all read the book, haven't we? THEY ALL AGREE

0:46:45 > 0:46:47Yeah. It's totally mental.

0:46:47 > 0:46:50Like, its quite a challenging read, I think.

0:46:50 > 0:46:53But absolutely incredible, just, like, the way it's written.

0:46:53 > 0:46:59It's just, like, overflowing with these gutsy, amazing, beautiful,

0:46:59 > 0:47:02horrific descriptions of every little thing.

0:47:02 > 0:47:06I've got two years' worth of pocket money and a packet of condoms.

0:47:06 > 0:47:08Let's go mental! Yes!

0:47:08 > 0:47:10I thought you were saving to go to Lloret de Mar?

0:47:10 > 0:47:13When my sister went to Lloret de Mar, right,

0:47:13 > 0:47:16she drank so much that she puked up all over a pedalo,

0:47:16 > 0:47:19then she ate paella that gave her diarrhoea so bad

0:47:19 > 0:47:21she had to stick sanitary towels up her arsehole.

0:47:22 > 0:47:24It was fucking brilliant!

0:47:24 > 0:47:26I'd love to do that.

0:47:26 > 0:47:27ALL: We'd all love to do that!

0:47:27 > 0:47:32I don't think I have any insights whatsoever into female psychology.

0:47:32 > 0:47:34You just observe.

0:47:34 > 0:47:39It's true I spend time hanging around Boot's make-up counter,

0:47:39 > 0:47:44but other than that, you observe, you have life around you.

0:47:44 > 0:47:46And you just see what's going on.

0:47:46 > 0:47:51It's obviously really clear that they were in a choir, so, obviously,

0:47:51 > 0:47:53there's going to be some really classical stuff.

0:47:53 > 0:47:57But it was the ELO stuff that was a surprise to me.

0:47:57 > 0:47:58Ladies!

0:47:58 > 0:48:00A one, two, three!

0:48:00 > 0:48:02# The sun is shining in the sky... #

0:48:02 > 0:48:05It's inevitably structured around music,

0:48:05 > 0:48:07because it's a choir competition.

0:48:07 > 0:48:12The genius idea of the play is to bring in music

0:48:12 > 0:48:14as almost a character in the play.

0:48:14 > 0:48:17# It's a beautiful new day... #

0:48:17 > 0:48:21It absolutely generates this momentum

0:48:21 > 0:48:23that just wasn't there on the page.

0:48:23 > 0:48:25# ..the sun shines brightly... #

0:48:25 > 0:48:26When we hit Mr Blue Sky,

0:48:26 > 0:48:31it's the first song of the show that's not a hymn or choral music,

0:48:31 > 0:48:33so it really just hits the audience.

0:48:33 > 0:48:35And we're singing it straight to them.

0:48:35 > 0:48:37Like, I'm walking along the stage,

0:48:37 > 0:48:39pointing at people, looking directly in the eye.

0:48:39 > 0:48:41I want to give them that shock factor,

0:48:41 > 0:48:44cos it's the first time that we get to do that.

0:48:46 > 0:48:49# Hey, you with the pretty face

0:48:49 > 0:48:52# Welcome to the human race

0:48:52 > 0:48:54# A celebration

0:48:54 > 0:48:56# Mr Blue Sky's up there waiting

0:48:56 > 0:49:00# And today is the day we've waited for

0:49:00 > 0:49:03# Oh-oh-oh

0:49:03 > 0:49:06# Mr Blue Sky, please tell us why

0:49:06 > 0:49:10# You had to hide away for so long?

0:49:10 > 0:49:11# So long

0:49:11 > 0:49:14# Where did we go wrong? #

0:49:14 > 0:49:16It's a gig, essentially.

0:49:16 > 0:49:18It's, like, part choir concert, part gig.

0:49:18 > 0:49:21And that's why I think that the songs fit in the way that they do,

0:49:21 > 0:49:25because we don't try to explain why they are where they are.

0:49:25 > 0:49:27When we come out, we almost come out

0:49:27 > 0:49:29and go, "Well, you're not judging us,

0:49:29 > 0:49:30"we're going to judge you.

0:49:30 > 0:49:32"We're going to judge you as an audience now.

0:49:32 > 0:49:33"We're going to tell you this."

0:49:33 > 0:49:39It's everything that you ever wanted to do as a teenager,

0:49:39 > 0:49:40that you would never have done.

0:49:40 > 0:49:43You're literally getting to put that every single night on stage.

0:49:43 > 0:49:46You all right? She's only had a couple of gin and tonics,

0:49:46 > 0:49:48but she's no' that used to it. SHE VOMITS

0:49:48 > 0:49:50Jesus Christ!

0:49:50 > 0:49:51What did you do that for?

0:49:51 > 0:49:53I didn't want to get sick on the carpet.

0:49:53 > 0:49:56We piss on there rather than risk the fucking bogs!

0:49:56 > 0:49:58Your clothes'll be ruined, Kay.

0:49:58 > 0:50:01These girls are heroic figures.

0:50:01 > 0:50:04In the novel, and also very much in the play.

0:50:04 > 0:50:08# You got me running, going out of my mind

0:50:08 > 0:50:11# You got my thinking that I'm wasting my time

0:50:11 > 0:50:12# Don't bring me down... #

0:50:12 > 0:50:15They come across to me, not as victims,

0:50:15 > 0:50:18not as troubled people,

0:50:18 > 0:50:21but people whose energies

0:50:21 > 0:50:24give us all something that we can learn from.

0:50:24 > 0:50:27So I see it as a celebration.

0:50:31 > 0:50:34In 2016, Scotland is agitated by the results

0:50:34 > 0:50:36of yet another referendum.

0:50:37 > 0:50:41The British people have spoken, and the answer is, "We're out."

0:50:41 > 0:50:44Her National Theatre is ten years old,

0:50:44 > 0:50:47but 2016 marks another anniversary.

0:50:47 > 0:50:50It is 100 years since the Battle of the Somme,

0:50:50 > 0:50:53the most devastating conflict of World War I.

0:50:53 > 0:50:56It was this anniversary that the National Theatre of Scotland

0:50:56 > 0:51:02chose to commemorate in the recent production, The 306: Dawn.

0:51:02 > 0:51:04# No name

0:51:04 > 0:51:08# I have no name

0:51:11 > 0:51:14# No name

0:51:14 > 0:51:18# I have no name... #

0:51:18 > 0:51:21The piece is about the 306 men

0:51:21 > 0:51:24executed for cowardice, desertion, mutiny

0:51:24 > 0:51:25in the First World War.

0:51:25 > 0:51:28It makes us think about, not just the glorious dead,

0:51:28 > 0:51:31the valiant dead, the brave dead,

0:51:31 > 0:51:33who died fighting for their country,

0:51:33 > 0:51:35but it makes you think about the people

0:51:35 > 0:51:38who were just totally broken by this horrendous experience

0:51:38 > 0:51:40that we put people through.

0:51:40 > 0:51:45# Tell me those things that you want to forget

0:51:47 > 0:51:50# I don't have, I don't have, I don't have

0:51:50 > 0:51:52# What's mine is yours Have words... #

0:51:52 > 0:51:55My grandparents, Gertrude and Harry Farr,

0:51:55 > 0:52:00are the real-life characters in 306: Dawn.

0:52:00 > 0:52:03# Show me where it hurts

0:52:04 > 0:52:09# And I can make it better. #

0:52:11 > 0:52:15God, I wish I could crack your head open, like an egg.

0:52:17 > 0:52:19I wish I could climb inside your brain

0:52:19 > 0:52:23and see what has been going on in there. Yeah. Me too.

0:52:23 > 0:52:28During the 1980s, I was tracing the family tree,

0:52:28 > 0:52:33and, at the time, my grandmother, Harry's wife, was still alive.

0:52:33 > 0:52:36So I thought, well, I'd ask her the question,

0:52:36 > 0:52:38as we were going over to France,

0:52:38 > 0:52:40if she could tell me where his grave was.

0:52:40 > 0:52:42And my grandmother said to me,

0:52:42 > 0:52:44"Unfortunately, he hasn't got a grave."

0:52:44 > 0:52:46Then she told me that he was executed

0:52:46 > 0:52:49for showing cowardice in the face of the enemy.

0:52:49 > 0:52:51But she added, "He wasn't a coward.

0:52:51 > 0:52:54"He was suffering from shell shock."

0:52:54 > 0:52:56I saw the medical officer's report.

0:52:56 > 0:52:58Yeah, he reckons I'm pulling a fast one.

0:52:58 > 0:53:01I'm sure he doesn't. Yeah, he does.

0:53:01 > 0:53:03He thinks the stammer and the screaming are for show.

0:53:03 > 0:53:05No-one thinks that.

0:53:05 > 0:53:07Shell shock.

0:53:07 > 0:53:09That's what one of the blokes called it.

0:53:09 > 0:53:11But the MO don't believe in it.

0:53:11 > 0:53:15Thinks that men who cry because of the guns are faking.

0:53:15 > 0:53:19There was such a dreadful stigma about the executed soldiers,

0:53:19 > 0:53:22that my grandmother had never told anyone about it.

0:53:22 > 0:53:25Harry's father, who was an ex-military man,

0:53:25 > 0:53:27forbade the family to even talk about him.

0:53:29 > 0:53:32Repeat after me.

0:53:35 > 0:53:36The facts...

0:53:38 > 0:53:40Desertion. Desertion!

0:53:40 > 0:53:42Mutiny. Mutiny!

0:53:42 > 0:53:45We were stepping into unknown territory,

0:53:45 > 0:53:47making a piece that, is it an opera?

0:53:47 > 0:53:49Is it a musical?

0:53:49 > 0:53:51Is it somewhere in between?

0:53:51 > 0:53:53But we all know that song

0:53:53 > 0:53:57is carrying a lot of the heart of the story.

0:53:57 > 0:54:01# Insubordination

0:54:01 > 0:54:05# Insubordination... #

0:54:05 > 0:54:08Often, the work we want to make at NTS

0:54:08 > 0:54:13doesn't feel like it fits well in a rarefied proscenium arch,

0:54:13 > 0:54:17where you're asking an audience to sit back and respectfully observe

0:54:17 > 0:54:19something going on in another room.

0:54:19 > 0:54:20This isn't about that.

0:54:20 > 0:54:23This is much more about putting the audience in a place

0:54:23 > 0:54:25where they can be reflective.

0:54:27 > 0:54:29And, when we started to explore the stories,

0:54:29 > 0:54:35and the men were often kept in barns in the French countryside

0:54:35 > 0:54:38after the court martial, waiting for their execution.

0:54:39 > 0:54:42And we wanted the audience to be in that barn,

0:54:42 > 0:54:47and that felt like the most honest way of the audience

0:54:47 > 0:54:50being invited to remember and bear witness

0:54:50 > 0:54:52to stories that had been forgotten.

0:54:52 > 0:54:54Firing squad, attention!

0:54:57 > 0:54:59# No name

0:54:59 > 0:55:03# I have no name... #

0:55:06 > 0:55:10For 75 years, this particular episode of the war,

0:55:10 > 0:55:13the executed soldiers, was kept under wraps.

0:55:13 > 0:55:16And young children of today don't really know

0:55:16 > 0:55:18what happened in the First World War.

0:55:18 > 0:55:20Firing squad, present.

0:55:20 > 0:55:22There were schoolchildren sitting all around us,

0:55:22 > 0:55:24watching the play while I was there.

0:55:24 > 0:55:27And, actually, someone said, "It made me cry."

0:55:27 > 0:55:29And I actually wanted to turn round and say, "It made me cry, it really

0:55:29 > 0:55:33"made me cry as well, that's my great-grandfather up there."

0:55:36 > 0:55:37GUNSHOTS

0:56:09 > 0:56:11We were living the experience, you know.

0:56:11 > 0:56:14When you had the...

0:56:14 > 0:56:16Especially the blasts.

0:56:16 > 0:56:18You felt like you were there.

0:56:18 > 0:56:21That you were in the turmoil, that you were in the chaos,

0:56:21 > 0:56:23that you were in the trenches.

0:56:23 > 0:56:27And just you get that feeling of hopelessness.

0:56:27 > 0:56:28The whole journey here,

0:56:28 > 0:56:30you're coming somewhere you've never been before.

0:56:30 > 0:56:32So it's kind of surreal.

0:56:33 > 0:56:34That was amazing.

0:56:35 > 0:56:39I don't think I've ever been moved so much by a piece of theatre.

0:56:39 > 0:56:42That was really quite powerful.

0:56:47 > 0:56:51How can a theatre company aspire to represent all Scottish theatre?

0:56:51 > 0:56:54All Scots? All of Scotland?

0:56:54 > 0:56:55The task is huge.

0:56:55 > 0:56:58The nation itself is constantly changing.

0:56:59 > 0:57:03The National Theatre of Scotland is only ten years old.

0:57:03 > 0:57:04Its future is unknown.

0:57:05 > 0:57:07But it's made a memorable beginning.

0:57:09 > 0:57:12The National Theatre of Scotland is a product,

0:57:12 > 0:57:14literally and figuratively,

0:57:14 > 0:57:18of devolution and how devolution changed Scotland.

0:57:18 > 0:57:20Ten years on,

0:57:20 > 0:57:23I think both the company and the country have really grown,

0:57:23 > 0:57:25and we're on the brink of...

0:57:27 > 0:57:28..hopefully more greatness.

0:57:33 > 0:57:36When the work was entirely unique and only came about

0:57:36 > 0:57:38because of that Scottish form, or that Scottish story,

0:57:38 > 0:57:40that was what people were interested in.

0:57:42 > 0:57:45Because no-one else could have made that in that way,

0:57:45 > 0:57:47at that moment in time.

0:57:47 > 0:57:51The Black Watches, the James Plays, the Bacchaes - they'll happen.

0:57:51 > 0:57:53They'll happen cos artists will make them happen.

0:57:53 > 0:57:56But, strategically, it's about getting out into those communities

0:57:56 > 0:57:59and being a national theatre, a truly national theatre,

0:57:59 > 0:58:01by actually taking work to the nation.

0:58:03 > 0:58:06It can't stand still, by definition.

0:58:06 > 0:58:10It's always changing, and that means it can really respond

0:58:10 > 0:58:15to the cultural moment in which it's making work.

0:58:15 > 0:58:18And I think that's its great strength.

0:58:18 > 0:58:21We mustn't ever lose that spirit,

0:58:21 > 0:58:23that idea that it's Scotland's National Theatre

0:58:23 > 0:58:26and we don't need to be like anybody else.

0:58:26 > 0:58:30We should keep doing it our way, whatever that way is.