Episode 11

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0:00:21 > 0:00:25Hello and welcome to a brand-new series of Film 2011. We are live

0:00:25 > 0:00:34and if you want to get in touch, the details are on the screen.

0:00:34 > 0:00:37Coming up on tonight's show: An all-star cast are going viral in

0:00:38 > 0:00:43Steven Soderberg's Contagion. day one there were two people, then

0:00:43 > 0:00:50four, then 16. Steven Spielberg's much anticipated

0:00:50 > 0:00:54The Adventures of Tin Tin in 3D. Thompson, where are you? Already

0:00:54 > 0:01:03downstairs, keep up. Mississippi is turning as best-selling novel The

0:01:03 > 0:01:09Help comes to the big screen. Plus Gary Oldman tells us about some of

0:01:09 > 0:01:15the films that have inspired him. First tonight, Contagion, directed

0:01:15 > 0:01:18by Steven Soderberg, following the outbreak of a lethal virus that

0:01:18 > 0:01:28soon becomes a global pandemic. she mention seeing anyone who was

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0:01:35 > 0:01:43sick, on the plane, at the airport? Are you OK? My arm. Sit down. Watch

0:01:43 > 0:01:51your feet. Come on. Come on now. OK. What happened? Did you take too

0:01:51 > 0:01:56much of that... No, no, no, stay there, just go up to your room,

0:01:56 > 0:01:59honey... This movie is a thriller where the villain is a virus. It's

0:01:59 > 0:02:08not like an action thriller, but kind of a psychological and

0:02:08 > 0:02:12physical thriller because the virus is very real and very dangerous.

0:02:12 > 0:02:20Does she have a history of seizures? Unfortunately, she did

0:02:20 > 0:02:26die. Right. Can I go talk to her? Your wife is dead. My character is

0:02:26 > 0:02:29a husband and father who loses his wife and steps on in very short

0:02:29 > 0:02:35order and is left only with his daughter and basically spends the

0:02:35 > 0:02:43rest of the movie trying to keep his daughter alive. Don't touch

0:02:43 > 0:02:47anything. Help me. I've seen enough generic mayhem in movies to last me

0:02:47 > 0:02:57a lifetime. I would like to see something human that I think could

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0:02:57 > 0:03:02occur. What's your temperature? 101.8. Are you alone? I've

0:03:02 > 0:03:05definitely infected other people. You don't know that. They wanted

0:03:05 > 0:03:10the authentic pandemic movie so they did a boat load of research

0:03:10 > 0:03:16and tried to game out what really might happen. We have a Novo virus

0:03:16 > 0:03:20with a mortality rate in low 20s, no vaccine at this time? That's

0:03:20 > 0:03:26right. It's a global international picture and they don't make them

0:03:26 > 0:03:30like they used to any more. There was a time when you would go to the

0:03:30 > 0:03:36movies and it wasn't that unusual to see an international cast kind

0:03:37 > 0:03:42of like this one. On day one, there were two people, then four, then

0:03:42 > 0:03:521416. In three months, it's a bill. That's where we are headed -- then

0:03:52 > 0:03:5616. Fear is a very powerful thing. Rub this in. It needs to be

0:03:56 > 0:04:02represented in the film because it's going to be and is such a huge

0:04:02 > 0:04:06part of this issue when it plays out.

0:04:06 > 0:04:10Don't talk to anyone, don't touch anyone, stay away from other people.

0:04:10 > 0:04:19Get back in your car. We are not sick. It's figuring out out faster

0:04:19 > 0:04:23than we are figuring it out. It's mutated. Danny Leigh. Claudia

0:04:23 > 0:04:26winkleman. You clever human. I don't want to start the new series

0:04:26 > 0:04:29being at all negative so kick us off. Thank you for the opportunity.

0:04:29 > 0:04:34I think the first thing that will strike anyone about conteenage

0:04:34 > 0:04:38season the ridiculous all-star cast it's got going on and it will put

0:04:38 > 0:04:43people in mind of the great '70s disaster movies and you will think,

0:04:43 > 0:04:46what's going on here, is it like the towering inferno gets bird flu

0:04:46 > 0:04:51and it's like that and there's something very original and unusual

0:04:51 > 0:04:57and chilly going on here. I think you follow these big name actors

0:04:57 > 0:05:01and characters into the film, but they don't get what you are

0:05:01 > 0:05:06expecting. You get a result in a film which is about all of us and a

0:05:06 > 0:05:09breakdown about what happens when people are in this situation, what

0:05:09 > 0:05:12happens when people stop collecting the rubbish and looting chemists

0:05:12 > 0:05:16and making money out of these situations. It's unusual and it

0:05:16 > 0:05:20does what it does very well and I'm pleased and proud to have it as the

0:05:20 > 0:05:25first film on the new series. Claudia? Oh, dear. By the way, I

0:05:25 > 0:05:30think I'm by myself, it's got very high percentage. You liked it. I

0:05:30 > 0:05:35had a very high expectation, love Soderberg, Out of Sight, one of my

0:05:35 > 0:05:41best films, I love Traffic, looking at the world of drugs, if you will.

0:05:41 > 0:05:46This is multi-playered, Traffic had heart, I would say this doesn't. I

0:05:46 > 0:05:53would also say it starts very well. When I say scalp, you will know

0:05:53 > 0:05:59what it mean, it starts well, Gwyneth and Kate are brilliant and

0:05:59 > 0:06:02Jennifer Ealie, but you think it's going to gear up, Kate Winslet has

0:06:02 > 0:06:08a brilliant scene with wound of those people and you think, here we

0:06:08 > 0:06:13go and it never gets there. Jude Law, don't even get me started. I

0:06:13 > 0:06:17almost feel, and this is maybe me, it's just not good enough. I will

0:06:17 > 0:06:20leave Jude Law to one side because that's different. But this isn't 28

0:06:20 > 0:06:24days later, the flu virus, people don't come back to life and start

0:06:24 > 0:06:27pegging it down the road and chewing off people's faces. The

0:06:27 > 0:06:30illness is quick and unpredictable and I think that comes across in

0:06:30 > 0:06:35the film. The film is quick and unpredictable. The film is very

0:06:35 > 0:06:39boring. I had a little nap. At no stage do you ever know what is

0:06:39 > 0:06:43coming next. How often can you say that about a movie? It's a good

0:06:43 > 0:06:49point but listen, I think I'm by myself in this but I found it quite

0:06:49 > 0:06:53dull. I would be surprised. See it on Friday in a bird flu suit.

0:06:53 > 0:06:57Outbreak. Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson join forces for The

0:06:57 > 0:07:05Adventures of Tin Tin, Secret of the Unicorn in 3D.

0:07:05 > 0:07:10Snowy, look at this. A unicorn. very unique specimen that is.

0:07:10 > 0:07:17Finest ship that ever sailed the seven seas.. Tin Tin leads with his

0:07:17 > 0:07:21brain but follows with his heart. What secrets do you hold? What's

0:07:21 > 0:07:26this? It's always the brain that pulls him forward, that kind of

0:07:26 > 0:07:33Sherlock helms reasoning that he does. The evidence is safe with us.

0:07:33 > 0:07:39Argh... Where are you? I'm already downstairs, do try to keep up.

0:07:39 > 0:07:44Just when it looks like he's on the downhill run to June cover the

0:07:44 > 0:07:48secret, his best friend and partner... Thanks, I'm Tin Tin, by

0:07:48 > 0:07:57the way. Does something idiotic to get in his way and upset the apple

0:07:57 > 0:08:03cart. Happens constantly. Land. are not there yet. Land. Find them

0:08:03 > 0:08:07both. His foes are against him. This may sound crazy but I've got a

0:08:07 > 0:08:17plan. His friends are against him and Tin Tin somehow always rises

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0:08:18 > 0:08:21above the chaos and achieves. you hit anything? Oh, dear. That

0:08:21 > 0:08:26was an extraordinary and intimate experience for me to be in a very

0:08:26 > 0:08:31quiet stage, almost like a the At rickal rehearsal stage, with a

0:08:31 > 0:08:38device in my hand -- theatrical. It was like a game controller with a

0:08:38 > 0:08:45six inch colour screen and if I just looked up with my eyes, I see

0:08:45 > 0:08:50Andy Circus and Nick Croft and the Thomson twins but I wouldn't see

0:08:50 > 0:08:54any circus Jamie Bell any longer, I would see Tin Tin and Captain

0:08:54 > 0:09:00Haddock. To see him going, how do I figure this out, was very much

0:09:00 > 0:09:10exciting. He's like a kid with a toy. On this movie, Spielberg was

0:09:10 > 0:09:14playing the role of, you know... was the two dimensional drawing

0:09:14 > 0:09:18brought to life in a three dimensional way. The period had to

0:09:18 > 0:09:26be non-specific a period, we didn't want people with cellphones and

0:09:26 > 0:09:30laptops. We also didn't want to change Tin Tin's trousers.

0:09:30 > 0:09:35Get down. For those people who don't know Tin Tin so well, we just

0:09:35 > 0:09:38wanted to really make them feel how I felt as an eight-year-old boy

0:09:38 > 0:09:42where you were taken somewhere and lived through the character and

0:09:42 > 0:09:52were in dangerous situations travelling the world... It's

0:09:52 > 0:09:58

0:09:58 > 0:10:04absolutely a true adventure movie. I am very happy to start with this

0:10:04 > 0:10:08one. It is a thrilling ride, Danny, it is rip roaring, it's raiders, I

0:10:08 > 0:10:12don't like motion capture, the first six minutes and the opening

0:10:12 > 0:10:16titles are very exciting, but once you see their faces slightly dead

0:10:16 > 0:10:21behind the eyes, I was like I don't like this, why don't they make it

0:10:22 > 0:10:27real. Six minutes in, they have amazing scenery, that sounds weird

0:10:27 > 0:10:30because it was drawn but it's a thrilling ride, you're off these

0:10:30 > 0:10:33extraordinary set pieces, I thought it was properly exciting, I left

0:10:33 > 0:10:38clapping? I think the thing is, if you are going to review this film

0:10:38 > 0:10:41fairly, you have to get in touch with your inner nine-year-old

0:10:41 > 0:10:44because your inner nine-year-old will have a fine old time with

0:10:44 > 0:10:50thrills and laughs. Spectacular set pieces. I'm 39 and I don't think

0:10:50 > 0:10:54you need to be as miserable and to- faced and pompous as me to find

0:10:54 > 0:11:01that that doesn't work the same way as an adult. The set pieces are

0:11:01 > 0:11:04track tack lar but spectacular but there's nothing like that in there.

0:11:04 > 0:11:08Steven Spielberg's ET, you find a story with that, there's downtime

0:11:08 > 0:11:12and breathing space and you have incredible uplifting moments but

0:11:12 > 0:11:16also downtime within them. Here there's none of them. Spielberg and

0:11:16 > 0:11:19Jackson don't trust kids not to be excited unless they're having stuff

0:11:19 > 0:11:24flung at them the entire time. I think you end up with, as a result

0:11:24 > 0:11:28of that, it mains me to say that, it's a film you don't feel, or I

0:11:28 > 0:11:32didn't anyway, elated or overjoyed or thrilled when you come out. I

0:11:32 > 0:11:38just felt exhausted, like I needed to lie in a dark room with a cold

0:11:38 > 0:11:44flannel on my face. You do, for different reasons! There are things

0:11:44 > 0:11:47wrong with it. I will be honest. No women in it, not one female? That's

0:11:47 > 0:11:52tun tin. Yes. There is one woman but looks a bit lake a man wearing

0:11:52 > 0:11:56a dress. The other problem is, the baddy isn't that bad, Daniel Craig,

0:11:56 > 0:12:00I could turn him into a goody with a nice conversation about cravats

0:12:00 > 0:12:04and a hot chocolate. That would turn me! There are things wrong

0:12:04 > 0:12:07with it, but if you have a child, even if you don't, just go, it's

0:12:07 > 0:12:11boom, you are off! The weird thing about it is, there's been a lot of

0:12:11 > 0:12:14talk about the way it looks and it's slightly odd. What I found

0:12:14 > 0:12:17distracting was less the way it looked and the fact that you could

0:12:17 > 0:12:21never get away from the fact that the film industry is a strange

0:12:21 > 0:12:25thing at the moment because there's no Harry Potter any more, Pirates

0:12:25 > 0:12:30is creeking to a conclusion, so you have a trilogy from two of the

0:12:30 > 0:12:34world's biggest directors with a boy hero and the choice of Tin Tin

0:12:34 > 0:12:38stories that has been used has a pirate theme to it. So you can see

0:12:38 > 0:12:41the animate tors frantically standing there animating away while

0:12:41 > 0:12:46Spielberg and Jackson are cracking the whip and the executives in

0:12:46 > 0:12:50Hollywood are going, make it work! And I found that unsettling.

0:12:50 > 0:12:53are hilarious. The result is a film that's quite sweaty. I like

0:12:53 > 0:12:58sweating perhaps. Can't wait for the see Question Time. You will

0:12:58 > 0:13:03like it, call me if you don't. Top five time and to kick it off, it's

0:13:03 > 0:13:08from our new brilliant addition to the Film 2011 a family, Catherine

0:13:08 > 0:13:12Bray and her favourite opening scenes.

0:13:12 > 0:13:15For me, the cardinal cinema going sin is turning up late after the

0:13:15 > 0:13:22pictures started. Not only do you annoy the entire audience, you

0:13:22 > 0:13:27might miss an opening scene as good as one of those top five.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30At five, it's 2001, A space Odyssey. Some opening scenes are brilliant

0:13:30 > 0:13:40because they get you right there in the action, maybe they make you

0:13:40 > 0:13:41

0:13:41 > 0:13:49laugh or introduce the main characters. Trust Stanley Kubrick

0:13:49 > 0:13:52to ignore that. But instead we get apes freaking out in front of a

0:13:52 > 0:13:56huge space black monolith thing which offers no explanation.

0:13:56 > 0:14:01Somehow, this rule book trashing madness all comes together to form

0:14:01 > 0:14:11one of the most memorable opening scenes in cinema history.

0:14:11 > 0:14:17At four, it's Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the great example of a

0:14:17 > 0:14:27animation. Roger Rabbit fluffs his lines while filming the latest

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0:14:31 > 0:14:37cartoon. Not birds, stars. Sets up the movie's whacky cartoon capers.

0:14:37 > 0:14:41At three, it's K Hard Day's Night. Opening with one of the most famous

0:14:41 > 0:14:46chords in rock'n'roll, it has you in the palm of its hand in seconds,

0:14:46 > 0:14:51with a dose of what originally made the Fab Four's name, the music.

0:14:51 > 0:14:55It's a clever way to get into a film that was about the sheer

0:14:55 > 0:15:05madness of being that famous. They already had the rights to the song

0:15:05 > 0:15:05

0:15:06 > 0:15:10At number two, Ghost Ship - not a classic movie, but it has one of

0:15:10 > 0:15:14the most visceral openings of any horror. In it, we see exactly how

0:15:14 > 0:15:18the crew and passengers of a luxury liner came to be ghosts in the

0:15:18 > 0:15:26first place as a metal caught whips through a crowded dancefloor like

0:15:26 > 0:15:36cheese wire through warm butter. Practically everybody dies. It is

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0:15:37 > 0:15:42basically the same plot as Titanic, only about three hours faster.

0:15:43 > 0:15:47At number one, Touch of evil. Orson Welles opened with an unbroken

0:15:47 > 0:15:52tracking shot over three minutes long, which begins with a literal

0:15:52 > 0:15:56ticking time bomb being placed in the boot of a car. We are left in

0:15:56 > 0:16:02suspense. If it is tense for us, spare a thought for the poor actors.

0:16:02 > 0:16:07If even one of them messed up, the entire scene had to be reset. The

0:16:07 > 0:16:16nervous customs officer stumbled a three or four times with one single

0:16:16 > 0:16:23line. Incurring the wrath of awesome. -- awesome.

0:16:23 > 0:16:29Brilliant choices. I love the twin cinematic achievements of Touch Of

0:16:29 > 0:16:36Evil and Ghost Ship. We have had a lot of tweets. Thank you very much

0:16:36 > 0:16:40for being awake. Heather says I missed the top five. I am on a

0:16:40 > 0:16:47beach in Greece. There is something special about the opening scene of

0:16:47 > 0:16:54lost in translation. The greatest opening scene was from Goldfinger,

0:16:54 > 0:16:58Spy Who loved Me, you get the idea. A Next, The Help, based on Kathryn

0:16:58 > 0:17:02Stockett's best-selling novel. would like to write something from

0:17:02 > 0:17:07the point of view of The Help. I want to interview you. And a maid

0:17:07 > 0:17:12will ever tell you the truth. It is a hell of a risk to take in Jackson,

0:17:12 > 0:17:17Mississippi. The helpers about three women in Jackson, Mississippi,

0:17:17 > 0:17:23who come together to make a change in their very narrow-minded

0:17:23 > 0:17:26community. I have drafted the sanitation initiative, a bill that

0:17:26 > 0:17:33requires everyone at home to have a separate bedroom for The Help.

0:17:33 > 0:17:38Maybe we should just build you a bathroom outside. Courage is about

0:17:38 > 0:17:46overcoming fear and daring to do what is right by your fellow man.

0:17:46 > 0:17:50What changed your mind? God. Someone once said, you either

0:17:50 > 0:17:55change or you die. And I think it is great that everybody goes

0:17:55 > 0:18:01through a transformation, and for the better, for the betterment of

0:18:02 > 0:18:09them. All right. I will do it. But I need

0:18:09 > 0:18:19to make sure she understands this eight no game we are playing. Face

0:18:19 > 0:18:28

0:18:28 > 0:18:33me. I need to see you square on at all times. I got to come up with

0:18:33 > 0:18:37the questions, too? Oh. It is funny that the book is about people

0:18:37 > 0:18:43having the right to tell a story, and yet here we are in modern times,

0:18:43 > 0:18:50and supposedly we are talking lightly about the past. And the

0:18:50 > 0:18:56mindsets have not changed that much. We are faced with a "you are white,

0:18:56 > 0:19:04you can't talk about black people". I am white? In you know you are

0:19:04 > 0:19:08black? Oh, my God. I don't have any issues with white people writing

0:19:08 > 0:19:17black characters. I have issues with black characters being written

0:19:17 > 0:19:21poorly. There are some bad writers out there. I get the Scripts, so I

0:19:21 > 0:19:25am in the front lines. I can tell you right now that most people want

0:19:25 > 0:19:30to send a message, so the character is a social mouthpiece. She did not

0:19:30 > 0:19:36start with that premise. She said, I want to know how she thinks, how

0:19:36 > 0:19:45she feels. That was a beautiful thing. I have plans for her.

0:19:45 > 0:19:51are regardless woman. -- A Douglas woman. You have gone and done it

0:19:51 > 0:19:55now. Go-ahead, Danny. I am glad we were

0:19:55 > 0:19:59just talking about opening scenes, because the opening scene of The

0:19:59 > 0:20:03Help is brilliant. The maid is asked by someone off-screen what it

0:20:03 > 0:20:06is like to bring up 18 white children and to have your own

0:20:06 > 0:20:10looked after by someone else. And she gives a look to the camera

0:20:10 > 0:20:16which is phenomenal, one of those great screen moments. That scene

0:20:16 > 0:20:24takes about 45 seconds. If you go to see The Help at the weekend,

0:20:24 > 0:20:27after that moment, get your coat and go home because beyond that

0:20:27 > 0:20:33point, what you have here is at best syrupy and unconvincing and at

0:20:33 > 0:20:36worst jaw-dropping Healey faces. There are two problems. Forest that,

0:20:36 > 0:20:41you can't make an entire film around the idea that black people

0:20:41 > 0:20:50and white people both have the same problems under the skin in the

0:20:50 > 0:20:55civil rights era in the Deep South. They didn't. And Claudia, you can't

0:20:55 > 0:20:59play it as panto. There is something grotesque about this film.

0:20:59 > 0:21:09You end up with something like Mississippi Burning, remade as Allo

0:21:09 > 0:21:10

0:21:10 > 0:21:14Allo. I don't know how to follow that. Take the stage. It is a good

0:21:14 > 0:21:19watch. I understand what you are saying, but in the screening I went

0:21:19 > 0:21:27to, people laughed and cried. Octavia Spencer was brilliant. I

0:21:27 > 0:21:31sobbed. Willie? Yes, sorry. I found it incredibly moving. I did not

0:21:32 > 0:21:37like that there are about four different endings. You go, guys,

0:21:37 > 0:21:40you have made your point. Didn't you like the performances?

0:21:40 > 0:21:45tragedy about the performances is that there are so many good people

0:21:45 > 0:21:50in this film, and they are misused horribly. Emma Stone is a fantastic

0:21:50 > 0:21:55good comic actress. Here, she is suffocated. She is not playing a

0:21:55 > 0:21:59person, she is playing a simple. The only one who rises above it is

0:21:59 > 0:22:04Viola Davies. I hope The Help gets her the attention she deserves. I

0:22:04 > 0:22:12hope Hollywood put her in a good film. She deserves it. Let's move

0:22:12 > 0:22:15on. I enjoyed it! The Help opens in cinemas next Wednesday 26th October.

0:22:15 > 0:22:20Recent box-office successes have reignited the debate of whether

0:22:20 > 0:22:30there are enough films out there but appear to a female audience.

0:22:30 > 0:22:31

0:22:31 > 0:22:37Antonia, a female and lovely, When we talk about women's films or

0:22:37 > 0:22:42a film for a woman, it really is a marketing term. It doesn't describe

0:22:42 > 0:22:45the film itself. I think this debate about women's cinema, there

0:22:45 > 0:22:49is a patronising element to it. It is the assumption that women are

0:22:49 > 0:22:53not interested in the great issues, politics, corruption or the human

0:22:53 > 0:22:57condition. Women want to talk about relationships, feelings and Kitty

0:22:57 > 0:23:01cats. If you said that to a modern woman, she will slap you are stuck

0:23:01 > 0:23:04in the 1930s and forties, when Senna was at its most popular,

0:23:04 > 0:23:08Hollywood would doubt that many more women than men went to the

0:23:08 > 0:23:13movies. It wanted to see the witty, independent, glamourous female

0:23:13 > 0:23:19stars of the day, the innocent girl Ingrid Bergman, the caustic

0:23:19 > 0:23:23aristocrat Katharine Hepburn, the superwoman Joan Crawford. Mr Pearce

0:23:23 > 0:23:28was a huge hit. In this scene, she discovers that her daughter is

0:23:28 > 0:23:38having an affair with her boyfriend. Even as the victim, she is

0:23:38 > 0:23:38

0:23:38 > 0:23:45intensely dominant. We were not expecting you, Mildred, obviously.

0:23:45 > 0:23:50It is just as well you know. I am glad you know. How long has this

0:23:51 > 0:23:54been going on? There was a period of focus on women's stories. There

0:23:54 > 0:24:00were heads of studios who recognised that there was a bigger

0:24:00 > 0:24:03audience. He wanted to cater for it with stories and by cultivating the

0:24:03 > 0:24:08female star system. The women's films of that era were made for

0:24:08 > 0:24:12women who were assumed to be grown- ups. Today's women's flick has

0:24:12 > 0:24:16degenerated into the chick flick. First, it was women gazing at women

0:24:16 > 0:24:22and they felt beautiful and special and powerful, and they were, for a

0:24:22 > 0:24:27moment. They said, make more movies about us. And there were a few. But

0:24:27 > 0:24:32men were the producers, directors, writers and studio bosses, so men

0:24:32 > 0:24:37controlled the way of looking. So women took all their clothes off.

0:24:37 > 0:24:41Even in the 1970s and feminism, they were still sexpots. That was

0:24:41 > 0:24:44called liberation in those days! It was considered a progressive thing,

0:24:44 > 0:24:48that we were breaking the taboos of a repressive society and women were

0:24:48 > 0:24:53at the forefront of a new dawn of openness about sexuality, which

0:24:53 > 0:24:57suited men perfectly. It looked like men were being exploited, but

0:24:57 > 0:25:02really, there was a discovery of the wow factor of a woman being

0:25:02 > 0:25:07beautiful. A sex is a wonderful thing to see in the movies, and it

0:25:07 > 0:25:12is inspiring. It does not necessarily have to be McCleary. It

0:25:12 > 0:25:15can be magnificent. The more women become open and free in movies and

0:25:15 > 0:25:20more sexually explicit, the less roles they have played.

0:25:20 > 0:25:25Dramatically, they have suffered. 20 years old this year and still an

0:25:25 > 0:25:35unusual sight, Thelma and Louise, two women being tough for two hours,

0:25:35 > 0:25:36

0:25:36 > 0:25:39two female cowboys in a fast car. What happened? It was a rip-roaring

0:25:39 > 0:25:44ride that also asked a few pertinent questions about what it

0:25:44 > 0:25:54is like to be a woman. It was the first mainstream existential female

0:25:54 > 0:25:55

0:25:55 > 0:25:59story. What surprises me is how few films have had that same female

0:25:59 > 0:26:04prominence in the mainstream. think Thelma and Louise was a bad

0:26:04 > 0:26:08thing. Of course, it is an enjoyable film. But his -- it is

0:26:08 > 0:26:10the beginning of the body chick film where women showed that they

0:26:10 > 0:26:16can be just as nasty, just as hungry for revenge and killing as

0:26:16 > 0:26:20men. Thelma and Louise it even passed a test devised by a comic-

0:26:20 > 0:26:30book artist in America in 1985 to gauge the active presence of

0:26:30 > 0:26:33

0:26:33 > 0:26:43females in Hollywood movies. Three Want to know how many films don't

0:26:43 > 0:26:48pass that test? It is a very long list. And the ones that do pass?

0:26:48 > 0:26:51The Piano, although that is about men, really. Bridesmaids - now,

0:26:51 > 0:27:00that does pass, although there is something incredibly male about

0:27:00 > 0:27:04that film. Oh. My dress was probably just tight. You got food

0:27:04 > 0:27:09poisoning from that restaurant. had the same thing she had, and I

0:27:09 > 0:27:14feel fine. Is it empowering that women can do penis jokes and poo

0:27:14 > 0:27:22jokes and all sorts of gross-out, disgusting things? It was fantastic

0:27:22 > 0:27:26to see a very funny comedy about female friendship do so well.

0:27:26 > 0:27:30year seems like a good year. You wait forever for films by or about

0:27:30 > 0:27:35women, and they all come at once. I hope the success of these films

0:27:35 > 0:27:41will generate more interest and acknowledgement that we need more

0:27:41 > 0:27:49stories about women. A brilliant piece by Antonia.

0:27:49 > 0:27:52dear. Did you just say yes, dear? May, We Need To Talk About Kevin.

0:27:52 > 0:27:55Tilda Swinton stars in this adaptation of Lionel Shriver's

0:27:55 > 0:28:05novel, playing a mother dealing with the aftermath of her teenage

0:28:05 > 0:28:08

0:28:08 > 0:28:17son's horrific actions. It is about a mother and son, that

0:28:17 > 0:28:21relationships. It is about an estranged relationship. I think it

0:28:21 > 0:28:31appealed to my own fears about, what if I don't like this thing

0:28:31 > 0:28:39

0:28:39 > 0:28:48growing inside me? Kevin did it. It was Kevin. You need to go talk to

0:28:48 > 0:28:53someone. It is interesting, because there is a bit of a duality to

0:28:53 > 0:28:59Kevin. There is a lot of internal motivation that exists within his

0:28:59 > 0:29:03emotional being that is a lot more complex and hard to define. I would

0:29:03 > 0:29:08not want to give an answer, because Kevin's motivation is one of the

0:29:08 > 0:29:13key ambiguities left open for discussion. She will need a glass

0:29:13 > 0:29:23eye, Kevin. So we would appreciate your looking out for her and any

0:29:23 > 0:29:23

0:29:23 > 0:29:29You don't really remember being a kid much do you, dad? She's just

0:29:29 > 0:29:33going to have to suck it up. It's very much from Eva's perspective.

0:29:33 > 0:29:40You see Kevin filtered through his evil eyes. I thought you didn't

0:29:40 > 0:29:47like those? Yes, well, they're, what do you call it, an acquired

0:29:47 > 0:29:50taste. Tilda Swinton wasn't what I had in mind at first because she's

0:29:50 > 0:29:57so beautiful, exotic and she normally plays quite exotic

0:29:57 > 0:30:02characters, you know, also the fact she's so tall, her height was great

0:30:02 > 0:30:08because she's so noticeable and she has to go through this trauma every

0:30:08 > 0:30:18day. Do you know where you're spending

0:30:18 > 0:30:21

0:30:21 > 0:30:26the afterlife? Going straight to hell. Choose black. Choose white.

0:30:26 > 0:30:30Doesn't Kevin go to Gladstone High... I should probably admit to

0:30:30 > 0:30:35loving the book so much that I hunted down Lionel sh rival in a

0:30:35 > 0:30:44weird way, haven't done that since I stood outside Simon Le Bon's

0:30:44 > 0:30:54house for a week. Apljeez about that. Glad you at mided that -- -

0:30:54 > 0:30:55

0:30:55 > 0:31:00apologies - glad you admitted that. It's about post natal depression.

0:31:00 > 0:31:05Ezra Miller is great, but Tilda is great. The book is very full of

0:31:05 > 0:31:10words, don't laugh at me, but... couldn't help it. It's very late,

0:31:10 > 0:31:14they're all asleep, but it's very wordy, but it's a great watch, it's

0:31:14 > 0:31:17haunting, watched it five days ago, can't get it out of my head.

0:31:17 > 0:31:22great thing is that Lynn Ramsay has been missing in action for the best

0:31:22 > 0:31:27part of ten years. She had, by coincidence, was supposed to be

0:31:27 > 0:31:32maybeing the Lovely Bones, had a bad experience with that and ended

0:31:32 > 0:31:37up being directed by Peter Jackson. She's one of Britain's finest

0:31:37 > 0:31:40filmmakers and she's taken Lionel Shriver's book and gutted it and

0:31:40 > 0:31:45she's produced a very fine horror movie. That's the way to look at

0:31:45 > 0:31:53this film, a very unusual, but very excellent horror movie. I would

0:31:53 > 0:31:58file this happily alongside Rosemary's baby or Carri yeah.

0:31:58 > 0:32:02Looks and sounds incredible -- Carrie. Tilda Swinton takes this

0:32:02 > 0:32:06character who is Brittle and bitter and difficult to dislike and she

0:32:06 > 0:32:09gets come plaitly under her skin, then that gets under our skin in

0:32:09 > 0:32:14turn. I don't think the film is flawless, soon it described as that,

0:32:14 > 0:32:16I don't think it's that, but it's an astonishingly well directed

0:32:16 > 0:32:20movie with an astonishing performance in the middle. I agree.

0:32:20 > 0:32:24The book leaves so many questions, which is why I had to find her

0:32:24 > 0:32:28because I had to ask them. This film, I was so worried they were

0:32:28 > 0:32:31all going to be answered, they don't, so you're still screaming

0:32:31 > 0:32:35out questions. What was always interesting about the novel was

0:32:35 > 0:32:39that it was like a raw shack test. People saw what they wanted to see

0:32:39 > 0:32:43in it a bit so some would think it was all down to the mother and some

0:32:43 > 0:32:46down to the son. Some would see this as a feminist parable. Some

0:32:46 > 0:32:49would see it as anti-feminist. You know, people saw what they brought

0:32:49 > 0:32:52to the screen. The film does the same thing actually. People will

0:32:52 > 0:32:57see the film and not quite know what to think at the end of it

0:32:57 > 0:33:03which is a great thing and very, very unusual. What is your film of

0:33:03 > 0:33:06the week? Is it The Help? I'm not good enough for The Help, it's We

0:33:06 > 0:33:13Need To Talk About Kevin rbgs but I was pleasantly surprised by

0:33:13 > 0:33:18Contagion as well. If you are going to see one, it's probably Kevin but

0:33:18 > 0:33:26I can't tell you how much I loved Tin Tin. Time for the questionnaire,

0:33:26 > 0:33:31this week it's Gary Oldman. I think it would have to be Malcolm

0:33:31 > 0:33:41McDowell. He was in one of those British movies. But it was this

0:33:41 > 0:33:41

0:33:41 > 0:33:50film I caught one night on TV. I remember that evening. It was like

0:33:50 > 0:34:00a light going on. And I thought, that's what I want to do, I want to

0:34:00 > 0:34:02

0:34:02 > 0:34:04do that. Malcolm as a charisma on camera. He has that mix of menace

0:34:04 > 0:34:10and vulnerability. I'm Bruce Pritchard. I expect you're glad to

0:34:10 > 0:34:20meet me at last. Are you glad to meet me? Yes. You don't sound very

0:34:20 > 0:34:20

0:34:20 > 0:34:30sure? Should I be? I was only trying to make conversation, you

0:34:30 > 0:34:35

0:34:35 > 0:34:44know. I've pulled better than you! Shawshank Redemption. Beautifully

0:34:44 > 0:34:53acted. Beautifully directed. It's just a great, great story. It's

0:34:53 > 0:34:57just solid. Frane! Andy, let me out. You promise yourself, I'll just

0:34:57 > 0:35:01watch fuef minutes and you're there, you know, oh, I should have picked

0:35:01 > 0:35:05the kids up from school -- five minutes. I had no idea what those

0:35:05 > 0:35:11two Italian ladies were singing about. Truth is, I don't wanna know,

0:35:11 > 0:35:15some things are best left unsaid. I like to think they were singing

0:35:15 > 0:35:25about something to beautiful it can't be expressed in words and

0:35:25 > 0:35:33

0:35:33 > 0:35:39makes your heartache because of it. Arguably one of the greatest living

0:35:39 > 0:35:46American filmmakers. He tells a story. It's just the way he can

0:35:46 > 0:35:53tell a story. If you lack at a movie like Godfather Parts II. If

0:35:53 > 0:35:56you want a master class in filmmaking in cinematography in

0:35:56 > 0:36:05composition of a frame, in art direction and acting, you could

0:36:05 > 0:36:10just watch that movie. It has it all. It's a master work. There's a

0:36:10 > 0:36:20plane waiting for us to take us to mimeny in an hour. Don't make a big

0:36:20 > 0:36:24thing about it. I know it was you. You broke my heart. You broke my

0:36:24 > 0:36:31heart. We've had huge amounts of tweets,

0:36:31 > 0:36:37can't read them out but let owe George says, I fear Danny is right

0:36:37 > 0:36:42about the Help and it will win an Oscar. Next week we'll review Ides

0:36:42 > 0:36:46of March, Anonymous, Tower Heist and Sket. Next week we are on on

0:36:46 > 0:36:51Tuesday, not Wednesday. Playing us out, the highlights of the films

0:36:51 > 0:37:01coming up over the next few months, and if that doesn't excite you,

0:37:01 > 0:37:11

0:37:11 > 0:37:21come and see me. Good night. Thanks A very confrontational piece which

0:37:21 > 0:37:36

0:37:36 > 0:37:40I love. It's like a hard-edged What's great is, when you see the

0:37:40 > 0:37:50response and it really proves that yes, audiences don't mind being

0:37:50 > 0:37:51

0:37:51 > 0:37:58challenged, actually they welcome Today marks the beginning of a

0:37:58 > 0:38:02fight between two sets of ideas. The race is over...

0:38:02 > 0:38:09How in the name of reason can you go on loving a man who can give you