Episode 15

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:00:24. > :00:29.Hello and welcome to Film 2013, we're live. If you would like to

:00:30. > :00:36.ghet touch the details are on the screen now. Coming up on tonight's

:00:37. > :00:40.show: The Legend Continues, Ron Burgundy and the boys are back in

:00:41. > :00:45.Anchorman 2. You have to do the thing that God put Ron Burgundy on

:00:46. > :00:51.this earth to do, have saloon quality hair and read the news.

:00:52. > :00:57.Dreams become reality in The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty. Hey. Hi. How

:00:58. > :01:06.was your weekend? I had an awesome weekend. Ben Stiller talks about his

:01:07. > :01:10.prolific career. Ecs-terrifying. I like that. We look at some of the

:01:11. > :01:18.big films coming your way over the coming weeks. Danny is here. Hello.

:01:19. > :01:21.We are excited about our guest the brilliant critic Camilla Long.

:01:22. > :01:26.Hello. First up, Will Ferrell recreates the role of legendary TV

:01:27. > :01:35.newsreader Ron Burgundy in Anchorman 2. Oh, I'm so sorry someone put the

:01:36. > :01:43.story in all capital leaders I thought I was supposed to yell it.

:01:44. > :01:47.We find yourselves in the year 1980. We are starting a 24-hour news

:01:48. > :01:53.channel, the first of its kind. A new opportunity to join a brand new

:01:54. > :01:59.station that's going to begin 24-hour news and he assembles the

:02:00. > :02:04.team once more. Welcome to GNN, the Global News Network. That is where

:02:05. > :02:12.we find them. Then it goes down hill. Linda Jackson is a winner. Are

:02:13. > :02:19.you, my friend. This is Linda. Oh, black, black... . Ron. It's amazing

:02:20. > :02:24.how people have taken to this group of guys. I think people like the

:02:25. > :02:29.kind of sense of a rock band you have these four guyes who are

:02:30. > :02:35.hanging out and a sense of fun behind them. That will make one hell

:02:36. > :02:39.of a story. They are buffoons. They can say the most racist, offensive

:02:40. > :02:45.horrible things and you laugh. What are you doing? I'm breaking down the

:02:46. > :02:51.barriers of race by asimulation. Which one of your convicts with the

:02:52. > :03:00.longest record can pass me the mash potatoes. They mask the pain with

:03:01. > :03:06.their own... Can I help you? You are staring at me? Do you want my

:03:07. > :03:13.autograph. He was explaining who you are and I was looking at you. This

:03:14. > :03:21.cast specifically is speaking about Paul, David and Steve. Are just so

:03:22. > :03:26.comfortable with improadvisation. Brian I read somewhere, tell me if

:03:27. > :03:32.this is true, some of the silicone implants were filled with taco meat.

:03:33. > :03:37.The improving is not about competition, it's about trying to

:03:38. > :03:42.make each other laugh. We can improvise for days. Then they will

:03:43. > :03:45.approve upon what they had in the first place. I like the parts of

:03:46. > :03:51.your face that are covered with skin. A rot lot of the time it's us

:03:52. > :03:56.saying, no, let's please not do that, what you wrote is so funny. I

:03:57. > :04:02.don't have any legs, Ron. It's because you're wearing green pants.

:04:03. > :04:07.Over the years Anchorman has grown in notoriety. If the fans demand it,

:04:08. > :04:11.if the oddients is out there we would consider a three. This was too

:04:12. > :04:17.much fun. We will do at least eighth. The very minimum eight. The

:04:18. > :04:22.news team is back. I want to do Anchorman movies for the rest of my

:04:23. > :04:27.life because it's so much fun. That is your foot between my legs No. It

:04:28. > :04:33.was my hand. When I watched that I think that might be the funniest

:04:34. > :04:38.film I have seen seen. I will trend carefully. The good news for

:04:39. > :04:44.Anchorman fan this is has been tailor made for them. It takes them

:04:45. > :04:48.and smoothers them in polyester and sideburns and gags, miles of gags.

:04:49. > :04:54.Some of the gags are funny of the for an Anchorman will love the gags

:04:55. > :04:58.and will quote them for 10 years until they make Anchorman 3, which

:04:59. > :05:03.is the point. I have made myself comfortable on the fence with

:05:04. > :05:08.Anchorman. It does have some very, very funny moments, I don't think it

:05:09. > :05:12.has enough funny moments for two hours. What I do like about it is

:05:13. > :05:17.that Will Ferrell has worked out there maybe aren't enough jokes for

:05:18. > :05:22.two hours. He has made this other movie which is this slide middle

:05:23. > :05:27.finger of the film about TV news and why it's so terrible in America and

:05:28. > :05:31.why working in the media will suck the brain out of your ears. I'm not

:05:32. > :05:37.sure when he decided to make that film, I'm glad he did. A mixture of

:05:38. > :05:41.disappointment and relief. Relief it wasn't as bad as the last film which

:05:42. > :05:44.I didn't particularly enjoy. Disappointment it's still the

:05:45. > :05:49.same... I agree some of the jokes were really very funny, but some of

:05:50. > :05:56.them were really awful. We saw that scene in the... When he goes to take

:05:57. > :06:02.his... Girlfriend. Girlfriend's parents, I thought it was... It felt

:06:03. > :06:05.racist and made me feel really uncomfortable. I didn't think that

:06:06. > :06:12.worked. I thought that, you know, it's a slightly better era for the

:06:13. > :06:18.Anchorman brand. It's the 80s now, which is kind of like broadcast news

:06:19. > :06:23.territory. The satire is, comes much easier. They have this really funny

:06:24. > :06:29.montage where they bring in the car chases and bring in fluffy toys and

:06:30. > :06:37.font font font is doing, h why, what are your Top 50 Greatest Vaginas

:06:38. > :06:43.Ever" and the ratings go up. I quite liked that. That was funny. In terms

:06:44. > :06:47.of memorable, kind of, scenes, memorable lines, I just... It goes

:06:48. > :06:52.out of my head with Anchorman. Maybe Will Ferrell isn't funny. The thing

:06:53. > :06:55.is if you didn't like the original, this is kind of completely

:06:56. > :07:01.pointless. From the point of view of reviewing a film it's like reviewing

:07:02. > :07:08.an avocado. Do you like the green fruit when you open it up has a

:07:09. > :07:14.paler green and creamy inside, then you don't... I love that talking

:07:15. > :07:21.about avocados. I think I'm possibly too old for this film. I am e old

:07:22. > :07:28.for everything hand on heart other than lying down and watching Miss

:07:29. > :07:33.Marple if I was 16 and went to see Anchorman 2 I would laugh until I

:07:34. > :07:40.was sick. Great Friday before Christmas film. Very funny. Nothing

:07:41. > :07:44.in this commercial big bluster type of thing. If you are a 16-year-old

:07:45. > :07:47.boy you wouldn't see Disney's Frozen, which would be my choice on

:07:48. > :07:51.Friday night. It's slicker than the last one. I liked the last one. The

:07:52. > :07:55.problem is the last one was made almost by accident. They would make

:07:56. > :08:01.an entirely different movie at one stage... What were they going to

:08:02. > :08:12.make? Annan orrorman, a different Anchorman. You had so much mayhem on

:08:13. > :08:15.set they carved it out. All that quotability happened by accident. I

:08:16. > :08:19.think the problem with this movie is it is working too hard and it

:08:20. > :08:23.doesn't feel like nobody cares. It feels like everybody cares and awful

:08:24. > :08:27.lot and every single line is designed so people will be quoting

:08:28. > :08:35.the lines for the next 10 years. A bit self-aware. I agree. Will is a

:08:36. > :08:44.good battle scene. That is all I'm saying. Next, Ben Stiller directs

:08:45. > :08:47.and stars alongside Kristen Wiig in daydreamer remark The Secret Life Of

:08:48. > :08:50.Walter Mitty. Danny went to meet him. Hello, are you still there? Can

:08:51. > :09:07.you hang on a second. Go, go, go! Get out, she's going to

:09:08. > :09:12.blow. Go, go! Ben, thank you for joining us today. You are welcome.

:09:13. > :09:14.The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty it feels like the film you couldn't

:09:15. > :09:17.have made without a personal connection with Walter himself, is

:09:18. > :09:20.that true to say? Definitely. You have to feel a personal connection

:09:21. > :09:27.when you are playing a part. Have you to figure out what that is. For

:09:28. > :09:32.me the story and what was in Steve Conrad's script was an identifiable

:09:33. > :09:36.thing, how we see yourselves in our head that doesn't translate in

:09:37. > :09:46.reality and the potential we have and being able to somehow get in

:09:47. > :09:53.touch with that. It did feel personal. Are you still there? Hey.

:09:54. > :09:58.If you had to encapsulate the experience of making the movie in a

:09:59. > :10:07.word, what would it be, ebbing sill rating, terrifying?

:10:08. > :10:10.Ec-ra-terrifying. You should be scared going into making a movie.

:10:11. > :10:14.It's daunting. That energy is good energy to have because you feel that

:10:15. > :10:19.and it means you are pushing yourself in some way and you are out

:10:20. > :10:30.of your comfort zone. That is always a healthy thing, I think. Hello! Oh,

:10:31. > :10:35.hi, sorry, the door was... So I just... Yes, she's getting dressed.

:10:36. > :10:40.Has been almost 20 years since you made Reality Bites, do you dig out

:10:41. > :10:44.the DVDs and watch those, or is it a case of the movie is done and you

:10:45. > :10:50.are always moving forward? The movie is done, I don't go back and watch

:10:51. > :10:57.them. You look beautiful. You look like a Doyly. Unless I show my kids

:10:58. > :11:01.something or if they ask. If you see something, if you are flipping

:11:02. > :11:05.channels I will watch a scene to see how it holds up. The chance to see a

:11:06. > :11:10.movie that you made long time ago with an audience is always

:11:11. > :11:21.interesting. You ever watched pornographic videos? No. I mean,

:11:22. > :11:28.well, I don't... Yes or no? I should say I'm a very, very big fan of the

:11:29. > :11:32.Cable Guy. It didn't get the due it deserved. When that happens, is that

:11:33. > :11:37.frustrating to you? Does it bug you, are you happy now, 17 years later,

:11:38. > :11:43.there are people like me who can proudly say I love

:11:44. > :11:49.Can the Cable Guy? I'm happy that anybody still cared about it. By the

:11:50. > :11:52.way you, might want to put on a bathing suit because you will be

:11:53. > :11:58.channel surfing in no time. We had so much fun making it. We got New

:11:59. > :12:02.York Times Blu-ray came out 15 years after the movie and finally they

:12:03. > :12:15.wrote something nice about. It all right, we got a good review for that

:12:16. > :12:21.movie. OK, I'm going. Take off. See ya. Bye. When you make the movies

:12:22. > :12:25.you make them for yourself and for the audience, hopefully they have a

:12:26. > :12:34.life and it's nice when they do. Sure.

:12:35. > :12:42.There are rumours floating about a see kwul to Zoolander, can you

:12:43. > :12:46.confirm that? I don't know. I mean possibly. It is a matter of trying

:12:47. > :12:49.to figure out the right situation for it in terms of how it all comes

:12:50. > :12:54.together. There is a script we wrote that the I like and, I think it

:12:55. > :12:56.would be fun to do. I'm not sure if it will happen. It might. It still

:12:57. > :13:15.hasn't come together the right way. Zoolander was fun to make, but it

:13:16. > :13:20.was not an easy shoot. The studio were not totally behind it, so there

:13:21. > :13:27.were challenging times on it, but a lot of fun situations came out of

:13:28. > :13:36.it. What is your trademark? I am best known for blue steel. What does

:13:37. > :13:42.that look like? A big part of it is the developments of the new look.

:13:43. > :13:46.You are someone who grew up in the business. Your parents were

:13:47. > :13:50.comedians and you performed as -- as a child. Have you ever had a moment

:13:51. > :14:00.when you thought you would walk away and do something else entirely? I

:14:01. > :14:04.was going to be a glass blower. Is directing something you now prefer

:14:05. > :14:09.to focus on, or do you want to get back in front of the camera? I love

:14:10. > :14:13.acting, but directing has always been what I wanted to do since I was

:14:14. > :14:19.a kid and what I enjoy most. So I look forward more to directing and

:14:20. > :14:34.acting also, but maybe not both at the same time as much. Hey! Was your

:14:35. > :14:39.weekend? I had an awesome weekend. It was incredible to watch him where

:14:40. > :14:47.all these hats - producer, director. And he is in every scene and he

:14:48. > :14:54.could not be calmer about it. I think every direct is a

:14:55. > :15:03.perfectionist -- every director is a perfectionist. That is also the fun

:15:04. > :15:12.of making a movie. The eyes, she moves like a woman.

:15:13. > :15:18.Cheryl. He is very meticulous. He knows what he wants, and he knows

:15:19. > :15:23.how he wants things to look and sound and feel. That attention to

:15:24. > :15:31.detail is one of the reasons the movie is so good. Perhaps I could

:15:32. > :15:40.contact you through my poetry Falk. I like that. Do you think if I hit

:15:41. > :15:46.him with a paperclip, you would move? I wonder what you wanted

:15:47. > :15:49.audiences to come away with. When you see them filing out of the

:15:50. > :15:53.cinema, what do you want them to come away with? I hope they went to

:15:54. > :16:00.a movie they connected with, that I made them feel something.

:16:01. > :16:05.I can't talk, I am on my way to a volcano. I like movies that you can

:16:06. > :16:10.both disappear into that take you away from reality, and also hit

:16:11. > :16:20.something inside you so that you are connected on both levels.

:16:21. > :16:24.That is what I was hoping. Life is about courage and going into the

:16:25. > :16:32.unknown. What did you think? And by the way

:16:33. > :16:40.my favourite thing is to start a sentence like that. What is the

:16:41. > :16:48.point? Sorry. It is beautiful. It touched me occasionally, but I came

:16:49. > :16:52.away thinking I have not changed in any way by seeing this film. Ben

:16:53. > :16:58.Stiller is pretty good as Walter Mitty. He is not dreamy enough to be

:16:59. > :17:03.that carrot to. -- that character . You can see him acting, which is a

:17:04. > :17:07.bit distracting. This is a very short story that has been stretched

:17:08. > :17:11.into this two-hour film. Like you said with Anchorman, there is not

:17:12. > :17:17.enough material. There are great action sequences. You are never sure

:17:18. > :17:21.whether he is in a fantasy or not. I thought, whilst it is very

:17:22. > :17:24.beautiful, shot on location in Iceland with volcanoes and

:17:25. > :17:39.everything, I just came away feeling the. -- empty. See, I am sick and I

:17:40. > :17:44.found it quite poignant. -- I am sick. I know it is just me and Ben

:17:45. > :17:47.Stiller's mum who think that. No, I could not agree less with you,

:17:48. > :17:51.Camilla. Most Hollywood movies if you feeling like you have been

:17:52. > :17:55.slobbered over and had your pocket picked at the end of it, but this is

:17:56. > :18:02.not that movie. It would take a cynic to call it cynical. There is

:18:03. > :18:08.an unusual sense of melancholy and sweetness about this and also

:18:09. > :18:17.sincerity. It is the sincerity people will take from it. People

:18:18. > :18:22.recoil from that. But this is an open hearted movie, and it is great

:18:23. > :18:27.for that. We should embrace that. Actually, it felt like a vanity

:18:28. > :18:31.project for Ben Stiller. You see there was not drool on your shoulder

:18:32. > :18:35.when you came out, but I felt that a bit. I felt I was being a bit

:18:36. > :18:42.manipulated by the story, which has been jazzed up for the film. It is

:18:43. > :18:49.nothing like the original and I do prefer the 1947 version with Danny

:18:50. > :18:56.Kaye. It works better. It is much more of the time. The film has a

:18:57. > :19:03.very old-fashioned vibe, this story is from a time before. They have

:19:04. > :19:08.tried to pimp it up and it has not worked. It is the lack of pimping

:19:09. > :19:11.that I like about it. How can you say that when there are these

:19:12. > :19:17.enormous set sequences that last it past you? But then Stiller always

:19:18. > :19:29.takes the dead hand option. It would be so easy to milk it, but he is the

:19:30. > :19:32.same Ben still you was. It would make so much more sense for him to

:19:33. > :19:37.do the Gurney, but he underplays everything. It is a noble

:19:38. > :19:45.achievement. Were you disappointed that it was not funny? Yes, I think

:19:46. > :19:50.I would have preferred... Is Ben Stiller ever going to get away from

:19:51. > :19:56.the fact that he is a comedy star? Probably not. He is so good at that.

:19:57. > :20:01.There are some comedy sequences in the daydreams, they are fantastic.

:20:02. > :20:07.There is a Benjamin button type sequence. Imagined David Fincher's

:20:08. > :20:12.face during that. I think sometimes you have to admit that a movie has

:20:13. > :20:15.made a personal connection with you. I am a middle-aged man and this is a

:20:16. > :20:20.middle-aged movie. I mean that as praise. You get to your middle

:20:21. > :20:27.years, the V neck years of your life. You are a younger person. But

:20:28. > :20:31.at that stage, you think, the person I thought I would be when I was 18,

:20:32. > :20:37.I have not become him . I have come this flabby mess that looks out on a

:20:38. > :20:44.kebabs shop. I want a movie that says there are worse things in life

:20:45. > :20:48.than that. There is nothing bad about simplicity and sincerity. The

:20:49. > :20:53.Secret Life of Walter Mitty will be on cinemas on Boxing Day. Now a look

:20:54. > :21:03.at some of the treats you get to feast on over the coming weeks.

:21:04. > :21:08.My name is Solomon. I am a free man and you have no right to detain me.

:21:09. > :21:18.You are no free man, you are nothing but a runaway. This is the true

:21:19. > :21:20.story of someone who was a free man in the 19th-century and he was

:21:21. > :21:28.drugged and sent to New Orleans, where he spent the next 12 years as

:21:29. > :21:33.a slave. I am not trying to redress the balance, all I am trying to do

:21:34. > :21:40.is look at that time in history and asking people to acknowledge it. To

:21:41. > :21:47.know where you are going, one has to look back. This is a very modern

:21:48. > :21:52.story in its own way, which is what is terrifying about it. It talks

:21:53. > :21:56.about a society we recognise. In the end, more than anything, it speaks

:21:57. > :22:04.about human respect. That is something that it is never late to

:22:05. > :22:12.reflect on. If you want to survive, do and say as little as Zobel. -- as

:22:13. > :22:18.little as possible. I don't want to survive, I want to live. With this

:22:19. > :22:23.script, I am going to teach the and everyone of you to be the best. This

:22:24. > :22:31.is the greatest company in the world! I was becoming a legend.

:22:32. > :22:36.Aren't you married? Married people can't be friends? I was making so

:22:37. > :22:42.much money, I didn't know what to do with it.

:22:43. > :22:58.The real question is, was all this legal? Welcome to Las Vegas! I want

:22:59. > :23:07.all of you to get in trouble. There is a huge audience of people of our

:23:08. > :23:14.generation. There are a lot of us. Soon the audience will be pining for

:23:15. > :23:23.movies about young people. We had a great time, and a movie came out. I

:23:24. > :23:35.feel like I am getting drunk and electrocuted at the same time.

:23:36. > :24:05.You are the biological father of 533 children. What? It is about a guy

:24:06. > :24:11.who, when he was younger, gave generously to its own bank. It is

:24:12. > :24:16.impossible to be the father of 533 children.

:24:17. > :24:23.When you are young, you don't think of consequences. These kids need

:24:24. > :24:29.someone to look out for them. They need a guardian angel. When you are

:24:30. > :24:33.looking out for these kids, will you be wearing some kind of cake? I did

:24:34. > :24:39.not see superhero, I said guardian angel. This is the BBC.

:24:40. > :24:43.Forces in Singapore have surrendered to the Japanese. A lot of films have

:24:44. > :24:47.made about World War II, but you have to dig a little bit here to

:24:48. > :24:53.understand quite how heroic these men were. A lot of men went through

:24:54. > :24:59.something you can't imagine. I'm afraid the museum is closed. I'm

:25:00. > :25:04.surprised you don't recognise me. I did not expect you to be alive.

:25:05. > :25:09.There are a lot of people with untold stories, thousands of them,

:25:10. > :25:18.that badly needed this story to be told. Some time, the hating has to

:25:19. > :25:24.stop. We will fight for our freedom! This

:25:25. > :25:29.is your final warning! I am not breaking any laws.

:25:30. > :25:32.The bits of racism I might have seen as a young kid living in east London

:25:33. > :25:37.was nothing compared to what happened in South Africa. To get the

:25:38. > :25:41.offer to play someone like him was a massive moment for me. It is an

:25:42. > :25:45.ideal for which I am prepared to die.

:25:46. > :25:48.We had a premiere in South Africa, and people who had been imprisoned

:25:49. > :25:54.with Mandela were all there as well. And when the lights came up, I

:25:55. > :26:03.realised people were crying in the theatre. So I felt so proud. What

:26:04. > :26:07.they have done to my wife is their only victory over me. There is a

:26:08. > :26:14.love story at the heart of it, and that has helped choose the best

:26:15. > :26:19.moments in his life. Lots of stuff coming our way. At

:26:20. > :26:23.this point, I normally ask for your film of the week. But because it is

:26:24. > :26:27.the last show of the year, I will ask for your favourite film of the

:26:28. > :26:37.year, Camilla. I have a few. First, I would say Gravity. Loved it. I

:26:38. > :26:43.would also say the great beauty, a wonderful Italian film about Rome.

:26:44. > :26:46.Go for the crowd scenes, the music and the jokes. And a documentary I

:26:47. > :26:55.thought was incredibly powerful, the act of killing, about men who killed

:26:56. > :27:00.people in a communist massacre in 1965 in Indonesia. It is an

:27:01. > :27:06.extraordinary film about life, death and human misery and breakdown. I

:27:07. > :27:10.would also say the act of killing and Gravity. And also a Japanese

:27:11. > :27:13.movie called I wish, a beautiful film about childhood. And spring

:27:14. > :27:19.breakers, an altogether different kind of beautiful. I see Captain

:27:20. > :27:22.Phillips. That is all from us. We are getting an extra long Christmas

:27:23. > :27:27.holiday and will be back on Tuesday the 21st of January. Teacher

:27:28. > :27:31.O'Toole, who died on Saturday, was a movie legend. -- Peter O'Toole. We

:27:32. > :27:36.remember him the Lawrence of Arabia, probably the most brilliant debut in

:27:37. > :27:40.the history of Hollywood. Thank you for watching. Good night. You mean

:27:41. > :27:47.the Turks have gone? No, they are still there, but they have no boots.

:27:48. > :27:55.We took them prisoners. No, that is not true, we killed some. Too many.

:27:56. > :28:01.I will manage better next time. There has been a lot of killing, one

:28:02. > :28:06.way or another. Cross my heart and hope to die, it is all perfectly

:28:07. > :28:18.true. It is impossible. Yes, it is. I did it. You had better talk to

:28:19. > :28:23.General Allenby. He is in command now. That is a step in the right

:28:24. > :28:30.direction. First, I want a room with a bed, with sheets. Of course. It is

:28:31. > :28:36.for him. Right. You want a bed yourself, don't you? I will see

:28:37. > :28:49.Allenby first, though. Will he see me? I think so. Good night. I had

:28:50. > :28:55.better shave. Yes, you had. You had better get into some trousers, too.