:00:26. > :00:29.Hello and welcome to Film 2013 with me Claudia Winkleman. And me Danny
:00:29. > :00:32.Leigh. We're live and if you want to get
:00:32. > :00:36.in touch then please tweet or e- mail. The details are on the screen
:00:36. > :00:43.now. On tonight's show:
:00:43. > :00:46.It's A Good Day To Die Hard for Bruce Willis.
:00:46. > :00:52.Coming to terms with the past in Laura.
:00:52. > :00:59.And life begins for Paul Rudd and Leslie Mann in This Is 40. You get
:00:59. > :01:02.so mad at me. I do want to kill you. Plus Keanu Reeves poses the
:01:02. > :01:06.question, "is film dead" in documentary, Side By Side and
:01:06. > :01:10.Catherine Bray is here with her Top 5 Sequels. First tonight, A Good
:01:10. > :01:20.Day To Die Hard. It's the fifth instalment in the 25-year-old
:01:20. > :01:39.
:01:39. > :01:43.franchise and this time Bruce is Jack. Dad? It has to do with me and
:01:43. > :01:47.the relationship I have with my son, Jack which has been a pretty
:01:47. > :01:53.contentious relationship. I have kind of lost track of him so I
:01:53. > :01:56.thought I would go to Moscow and try to find him and there was a
:01:56. > :02:06.nuclear threat in this film. This is what you have been doing
:02:06. > :02:07.
:02:07. > :02:12.007, a playing field New Jersey. Relax, you're safe now.
:02:12. > :02:15.Jack is actually deep cover, CIA, he is over there working for the
:02:15. > :02:19.Government. It is an extraordinary circumstance they find themselves
:02:19. > :02:29.in and certainly, no one else has either of their backs, you know, in
:02:29. > :02:30.
:02:30. > :02:36.Moscow so they have to band to go in order to stay alive. What is
:02:36. > :02:41.this, a gun? I guess you thumped it before.
:02:41. > :02:45.John McClane abroad. John McClane overseas. John McClane in a
:02:45. > :02:49.different culture. That's what was really exciting because whatever
:02:49. > :02:53.about him being a fly in the ointment, he has been a fly in
:02:53. > :02:59.American ointment. It is really fun to take that idea and put it in a
:02:59. > :03:03.global setting and just throw him right in there to a world-wide
:03:03. > :03:13.geopolitical situation and see what John McClane does.
:03:13. > :03:16.
:03:16. > :03:24.This guy is bad news. Terrorism. Someone has got to stop him.
:03:24. > :03:29.Knock, knock. They have replaced James Bond five times. They have
:03:29. > :03:39.replaced Jason bOrn. No one will replace Bruce as John McClane. He
:03:39. > :03:45.
:03:45. > :03:55.You are not going to die today. This film comes with the big ticket
:03:55. > :04:06.
:04:06. > :04:11.items of big action sequences and It is a big rocking Die Hard movie.
:04:11. > :04:17.You go looking for trouble, or does it always fin you? I used to ask
:04:17. > :04:23.myself the same question! Well, I don't know who this Die
:04:23. > :04:26.Hard is for. They have cleaned everything up that the famous line
:04:26. > :04:31.is, "Mother." We will leave the rest to everyone's imagination. It
:04:31. > :04:35.is safe for the average 12-year-old, but I don't think the average 12-
:04:35. > :04:38.year-old will have any interest in seeing this film. It is in the look
:04:38. > :04:42.of it, it is in the feel of it, you have got this father and son son
:04:42. > :04:48.plot where the son is essentially an idiot and John McClane spends
:04:48. > :04:52.his time complaining about the younger generation. You squint and
:04:52. > :04:58.this could be a hotel with rocket launchers. I am confused.
:04:58. > :05:01.I would like that. Get Maggie stuff to do. I loved the Die Hard
:05:01. > :05:06.franchise, I loved the first within and the third one. This one, I know
:05:06. > :05:11.what you mean. There is a brilliant tweet and it is from Louis who said,
:05:11. > :05:17."I never thought I would hear John McClane say I'm suffering from
:05:17. > :05:23.jetlag." There has been lots of films with old guys and they have
:05:23. > :05:30.got them up and given them a spray can tan and gun. We had the last
:05:30. > :05:35.one with Arnie and Sly Stallone and the only one that made me laugh was
:05:35. > :05:45.Arnely. Let's not -- Arnie and let's not go there again.. You are
:05:45. > :05:49.
:05:49. > :05:53.so wrong about the Arnold Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. The action is
:05:53. > :05:57.fine. The action is not the problem. It is everything that goes in on in
:05:57. > :06:02.between. A Die Hard should be filled with great one liners and
:06:02. > :06:07.you have got one great one liner and. This is an actor who used to
:06:07. > :06:17.be famous for his smirk and now as he does throughout his career, he
:06:17. > :06:18.
:06:18. > :06:27.is somewhere between narked off and depressed. I loved Die Hard 2. I
:06:27. > :06:32.will dual anyone who says this doesn't feel like a real Die Hard.
:06:32. > :06:36.Here, the bad guys are from a pound shop! For future future reference
:06:36. > :06:41.because they are making a sixth Die Hard, if you are going to be a
:06:41. > :06:46.villain, you need more than chewing a carrot!
:06:46. > :06:50.Good knows, I know that from personal experience. The action
:06:50. > :06:57.scenes are well handled, but it done seem like the real deal to me.
:06:57. > :07:03.Nick Nick Nick tweeted to say, "It is a good day to stop stop making
:07:03. > :07:06.Die Hard films." Next, This Is 40. Judd Apatow
:07:06. > :07:11.directs his wife Leslie Mann and Paul Rudd in this sort of sequel to
:07:11. > :07:15.2007's, Knocked Up. Why does it 38 and not 40? Because your mum wants
:07:15. > :07:19.to be 38. Let's not mention it again!
:07:19. > :07:27.Your son is an animal. If he insults my daughter again, he will
:07:28. > :07:34.be so sorry. You touched my nipple. This is about a family and it is
:07:35. > :07:40.the week that the couple turn 40 and decide how they are going to
:07:40. > :07:45.make their life work better. I play this character, Pete. We
:07:45. > :07:48.have issues that we never quite addressed and I don't think we have
:07:48. > :07:52.still addressed and there are new ones thrown in.
:07:52. > :07:56.It is the fourth time you have gone to the bathroom today. Why is your
:07:56. > :07:59.instinct to escape? Stop Stop treating me like a child.
:07:59. > :08:03.They are in this little like transition in their lives and they
:08:03. > :08:07.decide to try and make things better and the harder they try to
:08:07. > :08:11.make things better, the more things seem to fall apart.
:08:12. > :08:21.You need to get outside more and do some playing outside more.
:08:21. > :08:28.Yeah, you could build a fort outside, yeah, build a a fort.
:08:28. > :08:32.a fort outside and do what in the fort? It seems like ideas are
:08:32. > :08:36.inspired by things that have happened in our marriage or with
:08:36. > :08:45.our children, but it is fictional. It isn't, I don't watch the move
:08:45. > :08:50.why and feel like, "That's my life." My life is much worse!
:08:50. > :08:55.She never kills anything. She goes further. She will say, "I think
:08:55. > :09:01.this scene would be funnier and more dramatic if I was topless."
:09:01. > :09:05.And I go, "Really?" And that's the way we're going to go with it.
:09:05. > :09:15.Have you ever thought about killing me? Yeah.
:09:15. > :09:18.
:09:18. > :09:21.How would you do it? A wood chipper. Did you see Fargo? Yeah.
:09:21. > :09:31.Feeling at ease with things is not such a bad deal.
:09:31. > :09:33.
:09:34. > :09:38.I can't afford to sit in my apartment. Getting hair on my chest
:09:38. > :09:44.to start crawling up over my shoulders ready to attack my back
:09:44. > :09:49.is not cool, but it is a small price to pay for knowledge!
:09:49. > :09:55.Anyone want to get a massage. It is fun.
:09:55. > :10:02.I'm turning 38. Well move on. Isn't it weird our birthday is the same
:10:02. > :10:04.week and I am going to party? don't think it is weird at all
:10:04. > :10:14.because I'm turning 38 and you are turning 40.
:10:14. > :10:16.
:10:16. > :10:20.It is almost like Outnumbered and it is that slapstick sketch show
:10:21. > :10:25.about troubling orifice and it is this bleak drama about being
:10:25. > :10:28.married with kids and being mid-led aged. Each of the films has its
:10:28. > :10:31.moments and sometimes it is funny and sometimes moving. I have to say
:10:31. > :10:37.what it adds up to is a big sprawling mess though. You look
:10:37. > :10:39.even more unimpressed than me. Can you see it in my face? It is
:10:39. > :10:44.two hours 13 minutes long and unless you have got that somewhere
:10:44. > :10:48.for me, you know, I am getting old, unless you have got that, there is
:10:48. > :10:51.a DeLorean coming, I have a problem with this film which is they are
:10:51. > :10:59.all awful. I think they are supposed to be awful, but when
:10:59. > :11:03.there is a scene about "how would you kill me me? "call me, I will do
:11:03. > :11:05.it! The main problem I have are the details. They keep on talking about
:11:05. > :11:11.this financial crisis while they are sitting in an eight bedroomed
:11:11. > :11:17.house, I have got a feeling. One in a BMW, and the other one is in a
:11:17. > :11:27.Lexus and they are going away for a mini-break and they have got a
:11:27. > :11:32.Christmas tree that alFayed would think it is huge. She has a shop
:11:32. > :11:37.that sells tie-dye scrunchies. Just work in the shop. They are just
:11:37. > :11:45.annoying. I hear you. I hear you. I feel like I am being mean.
:11:45. > :11:50.This should be called This is Judd Apatow. You have got Judd Apatow's
:11:50. > :11:53.playing the kids, it is uncomfortably personal. It feels
:11:53. > :11:58.like an acquaintance coming up to you at the party and you make small
:11:58. > :12:03.talk and he shows you pictures of his wife and and kids and tells you
:12:03. > :12:08.about his money worries and his sex life. I hear you as well about the
:12:08. > :12:11.money problems. I mean, it is financial crisis, are large in this
:12:11. > :12:15.film for a family that appear to own half of America and that
:12:15. > :12:18.doesn't ring true and the other thing that doesn't ring true,
:12:18. > :12:24.anyone who got kids, real kids, know that is the first thing they
:12:24. > :12:31.do wherever you live, however much it costs, they destroy. Not only is
:12:31. > :12:36.this house expensive, but it is spotless. I can only assume they
:12:36. > :12:40.live in a cage well away from the house because that's not real.
:12:40. > :12:44.Should you not keep kids in a cage? Because that's where mine are!
:12:44. > :12:54.The relationship with the dads at the end moved me because that was
:12:54. > :13:07.
:13:07. > :13:15.because I was in there half my Hello Catherine. What's your Top 5
:13:15. > :13:23.this week? We are doing Top 5 sequels.
:13:23. > :13:31.Most people go, "Why would they do that again?" Sequels have a bad
:13:31. > :13:36.rap? We don't have any of those fudged categories in here and they
:13:36. > :13:43.are all sequels and some of the best films ever made have been
:13:43. > :13:50.sequels. What's number 5? It is from George
:13:50. > :13:54.Lucas. It is, of course, Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back.
:13:54. > :14:00.OK, let's have a clip. I will never join you.
:14:00. > :14:07.If you only new the power of the Darkside. Obi-Wan never told you
:14:07. > :14:17.what happened to your father. told me enough. He told me you
:14:17. > :14:23.killed him. No, I killed your father. Can I just say now...
:14:23. > :14:31.People will be complaining. People will be complaining to say
:14:31. > :14:35.that is a spoiler. I am sorry. On behalf of Chris Hewitt, he would be
:14:35. > :14:41.livid that was so low down on the Top 5. I don't want to speak for
:14:41. > :14:50.him. I am on board. It could be higher up. It is a brilliant,
:14:50. > :15:00.brilliant film. Where did you go with number four? I have gone back
:15:00. > :15:01.
:15:01. > :15:11.to the classic universal 30s horror movies for 1935, the Bride Of
:15:11. > :15:33.
:15:33. > :15:38.Frankenstein. Friend. Friend.
:15:38. > :15:42.SCREAMING Weren't you in love with her?
:15:43. > :15:48.a crush. It is a good one for Valentine's Day.
:15:48. > :15:56.What's your next one? Well, good old Boris Karloff. He used to
:15:56. > :16:01.present a TV show called Thriller and the star of our next clip guest
:16:01. > :16:11.starred on a couple of Boris Karloff thrillers. It is from the
:16:11. > :16:31.
:16:31. > :16:41.Star trek world, it is world. Buried alive. Buried alive.
:16:41. > :16:44.
:16:44. > :16:47.It is lovely. So it was William Shatner who was on Boris Karloff's
:16:47. > :16:52.TV show. Another film that is better than the first film and we
:16:52. > :16:57.can include it in our next sequels list.
:16:57. > :17:07.They are going to go back in time and save JFK.
:17:07. > :17:10.
:17:10. > :17:16.What's the next one? The next film is is Godfather II. And this is a
:17:16. > :17:25.brilliant clip. Anyone who watches this clip will
:17:25. > :17:30.go, "why am I watching them? I want to watch Godfather II." Apologies.
:17:30. > :17:39.There is a plane waiting for us to to take us to Miami in an hour.
:17:39. > :17:46.Don't make a big thing about it. I know it was you. You broke my
:17:46. > :17:49.heart. You broke my heart. It is fantastic.
:17:49. > :17:55.Such a lovely moment. Brotherly affection.
:17:55. > :18:05.All of that. We have had a lot of tweets for godfather II. We have
:18:05. > :18:09.
:18:09. > :18:16.had a lot of of tweets for Toy Story. Dawn Of The Dead.
:18:16. > :18:24.I am afraid Zoom bees have been shut out.
:18:24. > :18:28.Frankenstein is not a zoombie, he is a monster.
:18:28. > :18:32.What is and I say this with a stern face, number one? There is a man
:18:32. > :18:35.who I think, his name has to come up, a director, if you are talking
:18:35. > :18:39.about sequels because he is the king of them. I am talking, of
:18:39. > :18:44.course, about James Cameron, so the real mystery is which one of his
:18:44. > :18:54.famous sequels have I gone for? I have gone with Aliens.
:18:54. > :18:55.
:18:55. > :19:02.Let's have a clip. I guess we're not going to be
:19:02. > :19:07.leaving now, right? I'm sorry, Newt. You don't have to be sorry. It wean
:19:07. > :19:13.your fault -- it wasn't your fault. Game over, man. What are we going
:19:13. > :19:16.to do? Maybe we could build a fire, and sing a couple of songs.
:19:16. > :19:25.better get back because it will be dark soon and they mostly come at
:19:25. > :19:28.That's weird. That's the only one of the five that isn't better than
:19:28. > :19:33.the original. The bar is set so high by that
:19:33. > :19:41.frans. Frans that franchise. It is a great film.
:19:41. > :19:51.I am a fan of Aliens Four. He loves anything four.
:19:51. > :20:08.
:20:08. > :20:15.Next up is Cate Shortand's, Lore. Laura starts the film in a place of
:20:16. > :20:20.surity. She is a national socialist. She is a Nazi child. Everything is
:20:20. > :20:28.hierarchical and she is an absolutist so it is either us or
:20:28. > :20:37.all the other people that don't matter. And then as the film or the
:20:37. > :20:41.story is - as it pro propels them through Germany, she has this
:20:41. > :20:51.struggle between her indoctrination and her sexuality and her emotions
:20:51. > :21:05.
:21:05. > :21:09.because she becomes attracted to And I really loved that about the
:21:09. > :21:12.story that you have this kind of love story in the middle of all
:21:12. > :21:16.this mayhem and that was one of the things that drew me to that story
:21:16. > :21:26.because I love the idea of falling in love with the person that you
:21:26. > :21:35.
:21:35. > :21:39.have been told is disgusting. When I first read the book, it was
:21:39. > :21:45.a new perspective on something I thought I knew and it was all the
:21:45. > :21:55.details and the intimacy rather than it being a big historical
:21:55. > :22:05.
:22:05. > :22:09.point of view, it was about family The biggest struggle was the
:22:09. > :22:14.material and looking at it from the perpetrators point of view or the
:22:14. > :22:19.children of perpetrators and you know, everybody was so afraid that
:22:19. > :22:26.we were going to make an apologist film and my husband's family are
:22:26. > :22:30.German Jews and they lived in 1937 so that gave me immense courage
:22:30. > :22:40.because they were with me every step of the way and believed in the
:22:40. > :23:00.
:23:00. > :23:04.Wal Lore begins at the point where the German down fall ends. You can
:23:05. > :23:09.trust no one. There is all the special powers, the film is about
:23:09. > :23:12.children and war. Lore is no exception. This family of kids go
:23:12. > :23:16.out to find safety safety at the same time they are trying to
:23:16. > :23:20.understand what their parents are responsible for. This film is a
:23:20. > :23:21.hugely impressive piece of cinema. It will not leave your head for a
:23:21. > :23:24.long time after the credits have rolled.
:23:24. > :23:27.You are right. What I wanted to say even if people are watching just
:23:27. > :23:32.that clip and it looks good, it is better than that. It is much better
:23:32. > :23:35.than that. What is extraordinary is what the director said, it is
:23:35. > :23:40.coming at it from a different point of view. We have seen films about
:23:40. > :23:46.this period in history before. The acting is phenomenal and her slow
:23:46. > :23:50.realisation that you can't stop watching it.
:23:50. > :23:54.Saskia Rosendahl is perfectly cast here and she has this prettiness
:23:54. > :23:57.and it is a great performance because she is a complex character
:23:57. > :24:07.to play. All the kids performances are great and we shouldn't take
:24:07. > :24:11.
:24:11. > :24:15.that for granted. The star is the cinema to go cinema Tographer.
:24:15. > :24:19.So the film is like like filled with horror and beauty right next
:24:20. > :24:24.to each other and that's a real achievement to do that. Cate
:24:24. > :24:27.Shortand the director hadn't made a film for for nine years and I only
:24:27. > :24:33.hope it is not nine years before the next.
:24:33. > :24:36.I agree. Lore is on limited nationwide release.
:24:36. > :24:46.A documentary about the future of film in the digital age.
:24:46. > :24:48.
:24:48. > :24:54.Are you done with film? Don't hold me to it, Keanu, but I think I am.
:24:54. > :24:58.We are going through a transition in cinema and the digital process.
:24:58. > :25:01.I think without digital video, I don't I would have been making
:25:01. > :25:11.movies. You have got to be a dude who operates machines to do this
:25:11. > :25:14.job. There isn't yet a superior or an
:25:14. > :25:21.equal image in technology to film, but we are being forced into
:25:21. > :25:31.transition. You can't shoot 3D on film so film has been dead in high
:25:31. > :25:32.
:25:32. > :25:35.heart. I hate 3D. The whole 3D fen on nem is a marketing scheme.
:25:35. > :25:42.thought I should call film on the phone and say I have met someone
:25:42. > :25:46.because this is the future. How do you use to tell a story? It is up
:25:46. > :25:50.to a film-maker. This film is glorious. It is a joy
:25:50. > :26:00.and such a pleasure in hearing these great film-makers talking
:26:00. > :26:08.
:26:08. > :26:14.about film. You have David Lynch and Danny Boyle.
:26:14. > :26:23.It sinks its teet into the gritty of movie making in -- it sinks its
:26:23. > :26:26.teeth into the nitty-gritty and says maybe time didn't stop in 1973.
:26:26. > :26:33.Maybe re-invention is as important as inhaven'ting things -- inventing
:26:33. > :26:43.things. The history of about things dying and things being born. If it
:26:43. > :26:48.it wasn't, we would be still watching shaky black and white
:26:48. > :26:52.films of trains pulling into stations.
:26:52. > :26:58.Keanu Reeves is cute. He is not over awed and B, it is not about
:26:58. > :27:01.him. He must be tempted to say, "They did that with me in this
:27:01. > :27:05.film." He is respectful of those he is interviewing. Most people
:27:05. > :27:10.whether they are proper film buffs or whether they love cinema l come
:27:10. > :27:12.into this film with an opinion and I swear to god, it might be flipped.
:27:12. > :27:18.That's right. It is a fascinating watch.
:27:18. > :27:22.There is more than directors going on here. You have editors and
:27:22. > :27:29.people from across the film making spectrum. The one group of people
:27:29. > :27:33.who aren't represented, there is not a single film critic there.
:27:33. > :27:38.They don't know the imagination to know what's possible.
:27:38. > :27:41.What's your film of the week? By Side and Lore.
:27:41. > :27:44.We're back at the same time next week and we'll be reviewing Cloud
:27:44. > :27:47.Atlas, Song For Marion and To The Wonder. Plus we preview the Oscars
:27:47. > :27:52.ahead of next Sunday night's ceremony. Playing us out tonight, A
:27:52. > :28:02.Place Beyond The Pines. It stars Ryan Gosling and is in cinemas in
:28:02. > :28:17.
:28:17. > :28:26.I am still his father. I can give him stuff.
:28:26. > :28:31.I am here to search your house. What for? I am looking for the
:28:31. > :28:35.money that you may have been given. This is your problem. This is our
:28:35. > :28:41.problem. I'm bringing it to your attention because that's what I