You Were Never Really Here, Mom and Dad and Susan Sarandon

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0:00:25 > 0:00:30Hello there, this is Film 2018, and I'm Antonia Quirke.

0:00:30 > 0:00:36We are live, so tweet us.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38Tonight we're talking about stardom and the golden age of Hollywood.

0:00:38 > 0:00:41Who do you think personifies the classic Hollywood star - Gable?

0:00:41 > 0:00:46Bogart? Hepburn?

0:00:46 > 0:00:53Details on the screen, now. Coming up tonight... Director Lynne Ramsay

0:00:53 > 0:00:56returns with the harrowing three like You Were Never Really Here

0:00:56 > 0:01:03starring Joaquin Phoenix. One thing we are never short of these days is

0:01:03 > 0:01:08a new Nicolas Cage movie, only this time he is more cagey than ever in

0:01:08 > 0:01:14horror thriller Mom and Dad. And we chat to one Hollywood legend, Susan

0:01:14 > 0:01:20Sarandon about another the Golden age superstar Hedy Lamarr.It isn't

0:01:20 > 0:01:26a prerequisite in Hollywood to be smart.Plus we take a look at

0:01:26 > 0:01:30British wrestling comedy Walk Like a Panther. You can't say it's not an

0:01:30 > 0:01:31eclectic mix.

0:01:31 > 0:01:32I'm joined by the brilliant Ellen E Jones

0:01:32 > 0:01:35and the ferociously well informed Empire Magazine's top man,

0:01:35 > 0:01:37Chris Hewitt to make sense of it all...

0:01:37 > 0:01:46Award season is over, hurray!Yes. Is it over? Am I hallucinating?

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Let's start the new film year with a good one.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50First up is the new film from unclassifiable,

0:01:50 > 0:01:52never boring British director, Lynne Ramsay.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55Her follow up to 2011's We Need to Talk About Kevin

0:01:55 > 0:01:58is You Were never Really Here - an equally dark tale

0:01:58 > 0:02:00starring Joaquin Phoenix.

0:02:00 > 0:02:03He's Joe, a military veteran teetering on the brink,

0:02:03 > 0:02:05in a role that won him Best Actor at Cannes.

0:02:05 > 0:02:08Let's take a look...

0:02:11 > 0:02:17I'm going to ask you some questions. How many are they?One guy's at the

0:02:17 > 0:02:28front door. Second lie on the top floor.It's done.It's a new joke

0:02:28 > 0:02:36story.Why am I here?Albert Votto, his daughter has been missing the

0:02:36 > 0:02:42weekend.He's an enforcer.They say you are brutal.I can be.Beyond

0:02:42 > 0:02:47that it's something much more. I think it's about a man having a kind

0:02:47 > 0:02:53of midlife crisis, in a way.Do you have kids, John?No.I've heard of

0:02:53 > 0:03:00these places. If she's there, I will get her.It is based on a novella. I

0:03:00 > 0:03:04loved it had those elements, moved fast and I didn't know what to

0:03:04 > 0:03:10expect. I said to John, I'm going to do it in my own direction, do it my

0:03:10 > 0:03:16way, because I've never done that sort of collaboration. He said, I

0:03:16 > 0:03:19just want it keeps that kind of momentum I had. That was something I

0:03:19 > 0:03:22wanted to do.

0:03:25 > 0:03:32The heart of it was this really interesting character. Joaquin came

0:03:32 > 0:03:37late into the frame, but when he did he was like a member of the crew. He

0:03:37 > 0:03:43said he understood less than 50% of what I said. There was a kind of

0:03:43 > 0:03:46exciting energy and set because so compelling to watch another does the

0:03:46 > 0:03:50same thing twice that gives you so many options in an edit create this

0:03:50 > 0:03:53character with many dimensions.

0:03:59 > 0:04:05He's not the knight in shining armour, a fallible man. He's not the

0:04:05 > 0:04:13six-pack. He's kind of going to seed and bringing all these things in to

0:04:13 > 0:04:21make him rich were really to me and him. I grew up on Hitchcock. My mum

0:04:21 > 0:04:28and my dad were film buffs. My mum watched classic movies all the time,

0:04:28 > 0:04:38thrillers. Yeah, who knows, I suppose everything is a remix.

0:04:38 > 0:04:43Three... Two... One...Close your eyes.

0:04:43 > 0:04:53Not an easy film.No, but a great one. I kind of expected, because

0:04:53 > 0:04:55it's Lynne Ramsay unconventional form but a very conventional

0:04:55 > 0:04:59thriller storyline in a way. I found myself initially at least wanting a

0:04:59 > 0:05:03bit more detail from the plot, wanted to know more about this guy's

0:05:03 > 0:05:07back story. It only slowly came to me this is what Lynne Ramsay is all

0:05:07 > 0:05:11about and the scarcity of the detail is what makes what is there so

0:05:11 > 0:05:15incredibly evocative. Jelly beans, hammers, wallpaper... These are

0:05:15 > 0:05:19random word to people that haven't seen the film but I know you guys

0:05:19 > 0:05:23know. What she does by depriving you of repeated details of things that

0:05:23 > 0:05:27make things too obvious to make sure you are right inside this guy Joe's

0:05:27 > 0:05:33head. You can't get up in the quality of the event, you have to be

0:05:33 > 0:05:37there in his psyche.Grimness and transcendence are the keynotes?

0:05:37 > 0:05:41Absolutely. Joe is a guy at the end of his tether, he's looking at more

0:05:41 > 0:05:45from life. When you meet him on his suicidal, on the verge of ending it

0:05:45 > 0:05:49all when he wants something more. He want something more from the

0:05:49 > 0:05:54grimness of darkness. Lynne Ramsay is great at those bass notes. Action

0:05:54 > 0:05:57sequences in another movie, this movie is so close on the surface to

0:05:57 > 0:06:04being taken for John Wick chapter three, and I am for those movies, I

0:06:04 > 0:06:10love those movies but she is not interested in that. She's looking at

0:06:10 > 0:06:13diving below the surface and finding something new about this guy. Debbie

0:06:13 > 0:06:18had a really style speech... I don't know who you are, I don't know what

0:06:18 > 0:06:21you want but I will find you you, you wouldn't understand a word he

0:06:21 > 0:06:24says. It's a very different performance, a different kind of

0:06:24 > 0:06:30quote unquote action hero in this. Phoenix is 43 now and in the absence

0:06:30 > 0:06:35of the late great Philip Seymour Hoffman, James Gamble Feeney and

0:06:35 > 0:06:38Daniel Day Lewis apparently now retired, the mantle of our greatest

0:06:38 > 0:06:43screen actor is out there to be grabbed. It might well be Phoenix

0:06:43 > 0:06:48and on this evidence it might be him.Certainly with Lynne Ramsay's

0:06:48 > 0:06:51helps. One of the things I love about this film is how it reverses

0:06:51 > 0:06:56that traditional direct use gender role, the way is the other way round

0:06:56 > 0:07:00here. He's brilliant in it. It's a great physical performance. He has

0:07:00 > 0:07:03this saltiness which also seems natural and vulnerable at the same

0:07:03 > 0:07:08time. You can see the flashes of the little boy he once was. At the same

0:07:08 > 0:07:12time he has this murderous rage. Where do you think this sits in

0:07:12 > 0:07:16Lynne Ramsay's filmography? Would say she is someone that would resist

0:07:16 > 0:07:21the word career being applied to her filmography. It's more a body of

0:07:21 > 0:07:25work she is going for. It strikes me she's the man who said I won't do

0:07:25 > 0:07:27that all that but I will do that. You never know what to expect but

0:07:27 > 0:07:34there are so many -- Lynne Ramsay characteristics. You find everything

0:07:34 > 0:07:38you need to know about his mother in a 42nd sequence which is absolutely

0:07:38 > 0:07:45fantastic. We should also say Jonny Greenwood's score is so good.So

0:07:45 > 0:07:50good. Like the last great Radiohead album. It is a really great school.

0:07:50 > 0:07:54I think it is up there with the best of Lynne Ramsay's work. Weirdly

0:07:54 > 0:07:58commercial and non-commercial at the same time and she's not really

0:07:58 > 0:08:01interested in conventional action beats. There are sequences in this

0:08:01 > 0:08:09movie that would be unconventional, the corridor fight in Taken four or

0:08:09 > 0:08:13something but Joaquin Phoenix takes apart a guy with a hammer, very

0:08:13 > 0:08:17brutal, but shot on CCTV cameras. I love those little notes. She does

0:08:17 > 0:08:23want to present things to do that you've seen before.You might think

0:08:23 > 0:08:27you've seen before the taxi driver element but it's bold how in

0:08:27 > 0:08:36conversation with the taxi driver the doing something different.To

0:08:36 > 0:08:40take on something like taxi driver takes balls.There is a real

0:08:40 > 0:08:43tenderness to it, the early scenes with his mother, without those

0:08:43 > 0:08:48scenes it would be a very different film. Real moments of beauty.And

0:08:48 > 0:08:53can I say, as a person of a certain guys, great to see Joaquin Phoenix

0:08:53 > 0:08:59walking the dad board.Really worth seeing. From a film that had a seven

0:08:59 > 0:09:06minute standing ovation to Cannes to zombies.What are they?

0:09:06 > 0:09:09Mom & Dad - a horror comedy starring the one and only

0:09:09 > 0:09:12Nicolas Cage with a performance dialled down to 11 in this tale

0:09:12 > 0:09:15of when the sacred bond of parental love gets frayed...

0:09:18 > 0:09:23Can I go to a movie with O'Reilly tonight? With Riley? Your

0:09:23 > 0:09:27grandparents are coming to dinner tonight, remember.Take my advice,

0:09:27 > 0:09:33don't ever have kids!What's the rush today? It's like...What's

0:09:33 > 0:09:44going on? Is that McKenna's ma'am? Multiple reports are coming in as

0:09:44 > 0:09:49parents owe murdering their own children.Listen to me, you have to

0:09:49 > 0:09:54get out of the house before ma'am and before dad get home.Believe it

0:09:54 > 0:09:58or not, I used to be young ones as well and not all that long ago, by

0:09:58 > 0:10:04the way. And I think about how things were in my day. But now, the

0:10:04 > 0:10:11world you kids are living in, the things you see on the Internet.

0:10:11 > 0:10:18Things I only saw in magazines.No! And the expectations that must come

0:10:18 > 0:10:27with that.Dad?

0:10:35 > 0:10:40Oh yeah, you put your right foot in, you take your right foot out, you do

0:10:40 > 0:10:44the hokey Cokie...Stop!

0:10:53 > 0:10:55Yes, mum's here.

0:11:05 > 0:11:13You're going to open this door! This was a really great idea, honey.I

0:11:13 > 0:11:21forgot, your parents.That was tonight?

0:11:21 > 0:11:24Nicholas, Nicholas. Chris, we like to be clear on this programme. Is

0:11:24 > 0:11:29this a zombie movie or what?It is not a zombie movie.In what way is

0:11:29 > 0:11:34it not?Zombies are creatures that are dead and rise from the grave.

0:11:34 > 0:11:39These guys, they are just infected, just a little bit sick, a little

0:11:39 > 0:11:43under the weather. Same thing as 28 days later. Sorry, that is not a

0:11:43 > 0:11:51zombie film.You can imagine the animated pitch for this, to fix...

0:11:51 > 0:11:56It felt to me like a sequence, raw action sequence after another.There

0:11:56 > 0:12:02are absolutely moments of six fun in this which go to the movies for. But

0:12:02 > 0:12:07yeah, the things it does well for me, it's not a zombie film but also

0:12:07 > 0:12:10not quite anything else. Doesn't seem to define the rules within the

0:12:10 > 0:12:14film. There is an issue with static on the telly that seems to be

0:12:14 > 0:12:18sending the parents crazy but no one else crazy. They're not just killing

0:12:18 > 0:12:20therein children but they seem to want to kill everyone. I was

0:12:20 > 0:12:26confused.A pseudo- zombie movie? Anything with anything like this

0:12:26 > 0:12:32going on is satirising something. I'm not sure what he was satirising.

0:12:32 > 0:12:36Satirising parenthood, suburbia? Are the young children hopeless, useless

0:12:36 > 0:12:40consumers question at what's running through the movie's veins?I don't

0:12:40 > 0:12:49think much, but I enjoyed it. The director Brian Taylor, who

0:12:49 > 0:12:54co-directed both cranks, action classics I would bat for all day

0:12:54 > 0:13:00long. He also directed Nicolas Cage in ghost Rider. I wouldn't bat for

0:13:00 > 0:13:05that one. Frenetic action sequences, tries to undercut it nice and then

0:13:05 > 0:13:12-- now and then with some music.I like the music.It's fine, it's OK,

0:13:12 > 0:13:15but ultimately I don't think he is saying much. A nice spread in the

0:13:15 > 0:13:21movie when some how next page gets infected and they begin to repair

0:13:21 > 0:13:26the marital discord about.That's nice.It doesn't go anywhere. The

0:13:26 > 0:13:30director used to be a camera operator. Quite visceral, in amongst

0:13:30 > 0:13:35the fray and that is quite appealing. But can we praise Nicolas

0:13:35 > 0:13:44Cage?All day long, twice on Sunday. When he is dialled up what is he

0:13:44 > 0:13:46saying, I'm I realising everything, enjoying me, and you can't help but

0:13:46 > 0:13:53do that.Yes.I love Nick Cage, con air is my favourite movie from

0:13:53 > 0:13:57Nicolas Cage. I kind of thing... I know this will be unpopular, I never

0:13:57 > 0:14:00realised it is possible for him to be too over the top. In this film he

0:14:00 > 0:14:04saw the start that full throttle and accelerates from there. For the full

0:14:04 > 0:14:08unleashed Nick Cage experience you need him to be at least initially

0:14:08 > 0:14:14leashed.We are always aware with him as an actor that he has a movie

0:14:14 > 0:14:18like the bad Lieutenant Colonel, he can be more lyrical, he can dial it

0:14:18 > 0:14:24down. That is within him. I think he is like the modern-day... Amazing

0:14:24 > 0:14:32films and then 80 forgettable ones. He's coming up to 100 movies now.

0:14:32 > 0:14:36This is true, most of which sadly forgettable and most which recently

0:14:36 > 0:14:43have gone straight to video. This is great because if there is -- there

0:14:43 > 0:14:53is a cinematic release for this one. I love Nick Cage, and the wild ABCD

0:14:53 > 0:14:57E guy. I thought for the most part he had gone, recently he's been

0:14:57 > 0:15:01phoning in with some performances just moping around with his big moon

0:15:01 > 0:15:07face.Real face? He'd be horrified to hear that.He's engaged, engage

0:15:07 > 0:15:08the cage.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12In the 1940s, actress Hedy Lamarr was marketed as the world's

0:15:12 > 0:15:15most beautiful woman - a title she'd come to despise.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17Frustrated by the limits of a Hollywood career, she did not,

0:15:17 > 0:15:20like many other diversifying actors, invent a line of perfumes

0:15:20 > 0:15:25or publish a book of photographs.

0:15:25 > 0:15:28Instead, she invented the technology behind wifi.

0:15:28 > 0:15:30Now another Hollywood immortal, Susan Sarandon, has produced

0:15:30 > 0:15:32a feature documentary about the remarkable Lamarr's life.

0:15:32 > 0:15:40I went to meet her...

0:15:55 > 0:16:00Hedy Lamarr, screen goddess by day, inventor by night. Quite a story. It

0:16:00 > 0:16:04is one that has enthralled actress Susan Sarandon. When did you first

0:16:04 > 0:16:12become aware of her extraordinary extracurricular activities?When I

0:16:12 > 0:16:14started the documentary, we were not sure we would be able to prove that

0:16:14 > 0:16:23she actually had invented.Inventing was her hobby. She not only had a

0:16:23 > 0:16:27complete inventing table set up in her house, but Howard Hughes gave

0:16:27 > 0:16:32her a small version of the set of equipment that she had in the

0:16:32 > 0:16:37trailer where she stayed in between takes for her motion pictures.There

0:16:37 > 0:16:41are some people that just didn't want to believe that someone that

0:16:41 > 0:16:44beautiful, a woman that beautiful, could have done that. It seems too

0:16:44 > 0:16:45preposterous.

0:16:56 > 0:17:01Not only was there the bias in the scientific community, and the world

0:17:01 > 0:17:03in general, a beautiful woman contributing to science, but then

0:17:03 > 0:17:15there was the problem of ageism in Hollywood.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26Well, Hedy Lamarr, she was at her most famous at a time when

0:17:26 > 0:17:31Hollywood, the machine, they were described as racehorses,

0:17:31 > 0:17:35amphetamines to get them going during the day, sleeping pills at

0:17:35 > 0:17:38night, 18 hour days. The good old days! Do you recognise that image of

0:17:38 > 0:17:45Hollywood does that sound like hell to you?You exchange your personal

0:17:45 > 0:17:50life for this protection of the studio. People literally got away

0:17:50 > 0:17:53with murder. What did they give in exchange for that? The studio pretty

0:17:53 > 0:18:01much controlled their life for the duration of the contract. So much of

0:18:01 > 0:18:04making someone into an icon has to do with how they are packaged. They

0:18:04 > 0:18:11had a better system of that, I think.Thinking about Lamrr and the

0:18:11 > 0:18:20beauty tag, and the sexy tag that has been levelled at you, is that a

0:18:20 > 0:18:24stultifying thing?Well, I was never called the most beautiful woman in

0:18:24 > 0:18:27the world, I saw myself as a character actor. There are two kinds

0:18:27 > 0:18:33of actor, you have people like De Niro, Sean Penn, I think of myself

0:18:33 > 0:18:39as that. That is probably why I have lasted, playing character parts, and

0:18:39 > 0:18:47they don't have identifiable, really strong personality that is packaged

0:18:47 > 0:18:51and sold, like George Clooney. But people will not accept George

0:18:51 > 0:18:57Clooney playing a bad guy, probably. In a career spanning almost 50

0:18:57 > 0:19:04years, Sarandon herself has defiantly escaped pigeonholing.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07Roles in Thelma & Louise, The Witches of Eastwick, Atlantic City

0:19:07 > 0:19:10and Dead Man Walking, she has remained very much her own person.

0:19:10 > 0:19:16So many of the films you have been involved in half the event films,

0:19:16 > 0:19:20inasmuch as...It's crazy.The conversation goes on for about a

0:19:20 > 0:19:24year. Are you ever aware in the moment that it is going to be that,

0:19:24 > 0:19:28or is it always a surprise?We didn't with Thelma & Louise. We were

0:19:28 > 0:19:34doing a cowboy movie with women on trucks instead of guys on horses.I

0:19:34 > 0:19:41don't think so.

0:19:41 > 0:19:46Ridley Scott is a genius. It became so iconic, I think, because he put

0:19:46 > 0:19:54us in this landscape that John Wayne had been part of.

0:19:54 > 0:19:59You choose things that the director feels passionate about because that

0:19:59 > 0:20:08is really important. Bull Durham was like that, I love Bull Durham.In

0:20:08 > 0:20:11another lifetime I was probably Catherine the great Francis of

0:20:11 > 0:20:16Assisi.What was that character like, the baseball fan who offers

0:20:16 > 0:20:21her body and soul to one player. How did that character read on the page?

0:20:21 > 0:20:26Great. That is why I jumped through hoops to get it. Nobody in the

0:20:26 > 0:20:31studio, they didn't want it. She was smart and funny, she was in charge

0:20:31 > 0:20:38and did not have to die because of it at the end. Kevin was so hot.

0:20:38 > 0:20:43Sarandon may have enjoyed such a variety of roles, but as the

0:20:43 > 0:20:46documentary reveals, back in the 40s, things were not as easy for

0:20:46 > 0:20:50Hedy Lamarr, who eventually died alone and a recluse. Ultimately, do

0:20:50 > 0:20:55you see her as an inspirational figure or is it more of a cautionary

0:20:55 > 0:21:00tale?I think both. Mostly an inspiration. I think it is

0:21:00 > 0:21:02inspirational for young women to understand that they don't have to

0:21:02 > 0:21:10choose between being beautiful, sexy and smart. Was it a cautionary tale?

0:21:10 > 0:21:20Yeah, because ultimately I don't think she had a very gentle last

0:21:20 > 0:21:23act. There is a transition that happens for everyone, if you are

0:21:23 > 0:21:31lucky enough to live past 50, 60, 70. I'm going to be 72. It can be a

0:21:31 > 0:21:36really interesting time. But for Hedy it was the end of everything.

0:21:36 > 0:21:41Yeah, I guess it is a cautionary tale, although we are not against

0:21:41 > 0:21:44what the most beautiful woman in the world was up against.Susan

0:21:44 > 0:21:49Sarandon, thank you very much.

0:21:49 > 0:21:5572? Impossible to believe! We asked you on Twitter for your top star of

0:21:55 > 0:22:02Hollywood's golden age. Thomas says Mary Pickford, one of the most

0:22:02 > 0:22:06powerful women in Hollywood scene to this day and a trained trailblazing

0:22:06 > 0:22:10producer. Another, John Wayne for action, Laurel and Hardy for comedy.

0:22:10 > 0:22:14There is a great story, John Wayne was discovered carrying an armchair

0:22:14 > 0:22:18over his head on the set of a movie, the director said, part that man on

0:22:18 > 0:22:25film! -- put that man.

0:22:25 > 0:22:28Our last film is Walk Like a Panther, a British comedy set

0:22:28 > 0:22:31in the world of wrestling, grunting, grit and lycra...

0:22:34 > 0:22:39Nothing meant more than being in the ring with the Panthers. My wrestling

0:22:39 > 0:22:43family. The 1980s, an audience of millions.

0:22:46 > 0:22:54Now we are pulling pints, and I wouldn't change a thing.Shame,

0:22:54 > 0:22:58really, that this is to be my final pint in here.What is he talking

0:22:58 > 0:23:08about?They are going to close.They can't be serious? If that pub

0:23:08 > 0:23:11closes, we are left with nothing, so we have to do the greatest show of

0:23:11 > 0:23:15our lives. It's not going to be easy, we have to turn the clock back

0:23:15 > 0:23:2830 years. You look ridiculous! Ziggy.What is that shortfall?What

0:23:28 > 0:23:36are you short for!?It's going to go viral.Not me, I am clean as a

0:23:36 > 0:23:42whistle!Now we've got the chance to make this a fight that will never be

0:23:42 > 0:23:55forgotten.This is our moment.Watch and learn!Are they swollen?I don't

0:23:55 > 0:24:02think they are swollen, they are still very little.Keep wafting.

0:24:02 > 0:24:08I've got my site back, that is a bonus.Time to walk like the

0:24:08 > 0:24:20Panthers that you are! I bloody love wrestling!I love you, son.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22wrestling!I love you, son.Eh?We have come a long way from Local

0:24:22 > 0:24:32Hero. Full Monty, with wrestling? When you set yourself that low a bar

0:24:32 > 0:24:35and still don't reach it, David Webb problem. Thing I find impressive is

0:24:35 > 0:24:40how many aspects of it terrible. The costumes are terrible and

0:24:40 > 0:24:44distracting, the soundtrack is a horrible litany of large rock that

0:24:44 > 0:24:55nobody should have to listen to, and yet we do. The editing is

0:24:55 > 0:24:58yet we do. The editing is sub Lock Stock, freeze frame. Don't get me

0:24:58 > 0:25:04started on the script.60 speaking parts, 200 extras, that must be

0:25:04 > 0:25:11applauded?Yes, more than Avengers. 60 speaking parts, just two jokes,

0:25:11 > 0:25:17by my reckoning. A strange film. I don't think it is so terrible as

0:25:17 > 0:25:21some of the really low points of British comedy, the likes of The Six

0:25:21 > 0:25:31Lives Of The Potato Men, Mrs Brown's Boys The Movie. It is not a bad

0:25:31 > 0:25:35film. It desperately wants to be likeable but it can't make up its

0:25:35 > 0:25:41mind what it wants to be. Is it a movie that is morning a lost Britain

0:25:41 > 0:25:47that never existed, does it have a social conscience, a father-son

0:25:47 > 0:25:50story, or a comedy about wrestlers that over the hill? It doesn't

0:25:50 > 0:25:55really decide.Movies like this push the pantomime tone to such a pitch,

0:25:55 > 0:26:03even a lovely actor like Stephen Graham, even an actor like that,

0:26:03 > 0:26:06begins to not be able to pick up a pint and drink it in a way that

0:26:06 > 0:26:12seems human and normal. It almost begins to feel like Kabuki.That is

0:26:12 > 0:26:17what I find most unforgivable, it makes good actors look really bad.

0:26:17 > 0:26:23Stephen Tompkinson, who I usually like is terrible, everybody is

0:26:23 > 0:26:27terrible in it. It reflects badly on their past careers. I am watching

0:26:27 > 0:26:34Dave Johns and thinking, was Daniel Blake as good as I remember it,

0:26:34 > 0:26:40because he is terrible in this.Just his second film, working with a very

0:26:40 > 0:26:43improvisational technique, with a script, he does have a very naive

0:26:43 > 0:26:49quality. I'm not sure that works? No, he seems to be in a slightly

0:26:49 > 0:26:51different movie to everybody else. Stephen Graham seems to be a

0:26:51 > 0:26:55different movie to everybody else. Different parts of Great Britain,

0:26:55 > 0:27:03never mind movies!The accidents, some Geordie, some Scouse,

0:27:03 > 0:27:11Mancunian?Doesn't come together. The Full Monty was not my favourite

0:27:11 > 0:27:15movie, but it had a beating heart, it was sincere. The director of this

0:27:15 > 0:27:21went to see Big Daddy wrestling when he was 12 and it went in deep when

0:27:21 > 0:27:24he read interviews. I'm not sure... Film of the week? We are out of

0:27:24 > 0:27:26time!

0:27:27 > 0:27:30The wonderful Clive Anderson is here next week, but we'll leave

0:27:30 > 0:27:32you with the Chilean winner of Best Foreign Film

0:27:32 > 0:27:34at this year's Oscars, A Fantastic Woman.

0:27:34 > 0:27:35Starring rising 28-year-old trans actor Daniela Vega,

0:27:35 > 0:27:38the film is the story of a singer, Marina.

0:27:38 > 0:27:42Following her boyfriend's death, she is forced to confront the family

0:27:42 > 0:27:45that won't accept her for what she is, which is -

0:27:45 > 0:27:47like Hedy Lemarr, Susan Sarandon and ...

0:27:47 > 0:27:48Ellen E Jones - sorry Chris!

0:27:48 > 0:27:50A fantastic woman.

0:27:50 > 0:27:53Good night!

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