0:00:24 > 0:00:26Hello there.
0:00:26 > 0:00:30Welcome to Film 2018, I'm Clive Anderson.
0:00:30 > 0:00:33So I'm Clive and we're live and tonight, in addition to looking
0:00:33 > 0:00:35at three new releases, we'll be looking back
0:00:35 > 0:00:38at the work of Nora Ephron - writer, director and queen
0:00:38 > 0:00:39of the rom-com.
0:00:39 > 0:00:45What's your favourite romantic comedy?
0:00:45 > 0:00:49We'd love to hear from you, so I hope you will get in touch.
0:00:49 > 0:00:51But I had you at hello, didn't I?
0:00:51 > 0:00:53Details of how to tweet are on the screen now.
0:00:53 > 0:00:56But enough of the foreplay, coming up tonight:
0:00:56 > 0:01:01Carrots, capers and countryside. Peter Rabbit gets the big screen
0:01:01 > 0:01:04treatment starring James Corden, Rose Byrne and Domhnall Gleeson.
0:01:04 > 0:01:10This there is something about Mary. I'll be with you.Rooney Mara and
0:01:10 > 0:01:14Joaquin Phoenix star in biblical epic, Mary Magdalene. We'll have
0:01:14 > 0:01:20what she's having.Yes!We celebrate the wit and work of Nora Ephron. 25
0:01:20 > 0:01:29years on from Sleepless in Seattle. Men never get this movie.I know.
0:01:29 > 0:01:31Plus, we'll take a look at art world satire, The Square.
0:01:31 > 0:01:34It's very much a case of When Ellen Met Jason
0:01:34 > 0:01:37on the Film Show sofa tonight, as I'm joined by the ill-matched,
0:01:37 > 0:01:40or as it may turn out in the end, very well-matched film buffs
0:01:40 > 0:01:42Ellen E Jones and Jason Solomons.
0:01:42 > 0:01:49I hope you are bopping on the sofa? Thank you for the setup, Clive.
0:01:49 > 0:01:50Right, let's get started.
0:01:50 > 0:01:53After Paddington 1 and Paddington 2, the next children's classic
0:01:53 > 0:01:55we all want to see is obviously, well, Paddington 3.
0:01:55 > 0:01:59But until that arrives, we have Peter Rabbit.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02Beatrix Potter's naughty, anthropomorphic bunny,
0:02:02 > 0:02:06here the centre of a combined live action/animated feature with Peter's
0:02:06 > 0:02:10voice, and perhaps character, provided by James Corden -
0:02:10 > 0:02:12the British actor turned US talk show host, who has the daunting
0:02:12 > 0:02:15challenge of reinventing a much loved classic for today's world.
0:02:15 > 0:02:17So is it a hit or a myxomatosis?
0:02:17 > 0:02:21Let's have a look.
0:02:21 > 0:02:26All right, talk to me, Benjamin. He's mowed half the lawn which maybe
0:02:26 > 0:02:32gives us enough time. Look at him pure evil.Here is a crazy thought.
0:02:32 > 0:02:38What if we don't go in. Last time we almost got caught.Peter Rabbit is
0:02:38 > 0:02:42based on the Beatrix Potter short stories.Take it all in because we
0:02:42 > 0:02:45are about to take it all in.It's about a quest to try and get back
0:02:45 > 0:02:49the land that he feels is rightfully his.You all know the drill. I'm not
0:02:49 > 0:02:56going to pretend what we are about to do suspect reckless, foolhardy or
0:02:56 > 0:03:02dangerous.It was the first story I was read as a child that was
0:03:02 > 0:03:07remotely naughty. Your mum and dad going, he was told not to do it and
0:03:07 > 0:03:16he did. You go, he is amazing.They admire Peter he is the big brother.
0:03:16 > 0:03:23In a sort of anthropomorphic seeing the dynamic is sweet.You can
0:03:23 > 0:03:29mention my character at any point. Hello.I'm really trying to give the
0:03:29 > 0:03:35main plot points of the film. I mean.This guy is faster than the
0:03:35 > 0:03:43old one.Domhnall Gleeson plays Thomas McMcGregor's, old McGregor's
0:03:43 > 0:03:47nephew who moves into his house.Do you know what we do with rats in
0:03:47 > 0:03:53this city. We find them and exterminate them.Going to work
0:03:53 > 0:03:55erday with the express aim of doing something that will make kids laugh
0:03:55 > 0:03:59is sort of, that's very, very joyious. That's a great reason to go
0:03:59 > 0:04:05to work in the morning.He was like...It's like the imagination
0:04:05 > 0:04:10Olympics. You really have to train for it and just sort of go for it.I
0:04:10 > 0:04:19can read lips.The elephants are fabulous.The elephants around here
0:04:19 > 0:04:22arogical flatulent.They really captured characteristics of us.It's
0:04:22 > 0:04:29OK. I' got 11 more ribs.What we realised that people's memories of
0:04:29 > 0:04:33being read Peter Rabbit is what they are trying to protect, not
0:04:33 > 0:04:36necessarily Peter Rabbit. We are not doing anything to your memories, we
0:04:36 > 0:04:44are giving a new take on this.Go, Mrs Tiggy-Winkle. Stop.I will
0:04:44 > 0:04:46guarantee you that Beatrix Potter will not be ruined for you if you
0:04:46 > 0:04:59watch this movie.Ah!Oh. Look away. What do you reckon, James Corden,
0:04:59 > 0:05:03was it a good casting, a naughty character and pushes it to the
0:05:03 > 0:05:08limit?It's the case of bad casting. Interesting case of bad casting. It
0:05:08 > 0:05:13shows how one bad decision can cast a nasty shadow over the whole film.
0:05:13 > 0:05:17My problem with James Corden, much respect to him, great at what he
0:05:17 > 0:05:21does, hard-working and all of that. He is too much of a comfortable
0:05:21 > 0:05:28family man to pull off off the naughty cheeky chappieness you need.
0:05:28 > 0:05:33Smithy he was naughty.He's a big talk show host in America. It is not
0:05:33 > 0:05:39working. What is wrong with the film is a problem in a lot of kids films.
0:05:39 > 0:05:43The soundtrack of pop music that is ano-oning. The tone is too high for
0:05:43 > 0:05:46kids or low for their parents. It would be right if only there was a
0:05:46 > 0:05:50central character that wasn't quite so annoying.What do you think. Are
0:05:50 > 0:05:53you a big Peter Rabbit fan, brought up on it at allNot all. I didn't
0:05:53 > 0:05:58know what was going on with animals in the countryside.Like the young
0:05:58 > 0:06:02Mr McGregor, coming up from London a he does.Invading my garden.What do
0:06:02 > 0:06:09you think about the tone? It's dark every now and then. Ol Mr McGregor
0:06:09 > 0:06:14is killed off in almost a bullying way, wasn't it?No easy time to
0:06:14 > 0:06:17learn about death. The sooner they get over this the better. I don't
0:06:17 > 0:06:22have a problem with the film. It has an uncertain tone, Beatrix Potter
0:06:22 > 0:06:26has that innocence and eternal charm. This has a sort of knowing
0:06:26 > 0:06:29quick-fire commercialism to it. They are very different universes they
0:06:29 > 0:06:36are going for. I thought Corden did fine. Children won't know who James
0:06:36 > 0:06:42Corden is. Theyle might see him as a likeable character. They are excited
0:06:42 > 0:06:46by the energy in the animation.They don't just, the animation is fun.
0:06:46 > 0:06:50They don't just take the odd carrot they they take over the whole garden
0:06:50 > 0:06:56and the house and everything.There has been a mini scandal about
0:06:56 > 0:07:00bullying which we kind of ridiculed. That is the least of it. There is a
0:07:00 > 0:07:04lot of really bullying behaviour, dangerous stuff. Although it seems
0:07:04 > 0:07:08ridiculous to disapprove, it is the movie that turns you into that
0:07:08 > 0:07:17disapproving mum, I am afraid.They have to get rid of Ol Mr McGregor to
0:07:17 > 0:07:21bring young Mr McGregor from London who meets Rose Byrne. I don't want
0:07:21 > 0:07:26to spoil it for anyone. What might happen. Do you think that worked?I
0:07:26 > 0:07:29like the two human leads, shall I say. What disturbed me there was a
0:07:29 > 0:07:35suggestion that Peter Rabbit, who is a rabbit, let us emphasise, might be
0:07:35 > 0:07:39a love rival for Domhnall Gleeson. This is the child of a mother,
0:07:39 > 0:07:44mother figure he is coming in and being the step-father.When someone
0:07:44 > 0:07:51new -I'm not imagining it there is a sub-text there.What about the
0:07:51 > 0:07:57mechanics of it, the animation, the look of it? We see little glimpses
0:07:57 > 0:08:01of Beatrix Potter's drawings. This girl, Rose Byrne, is a bad artist
0:08:01 > 0:08:04except when she draws animals. Of course the animation is completely
0:08:04 > 0:08:10different. It was effective?Her character is called Bea. The Bea in
0:08:10 > 0:08:15Potter. Does this abstract work that doesn't work the a all and charming
0:08:15 > 0:08:18illustrations. We are in different times. I think to update something
0:08:18 > 0:08:22is a very careful, you can't even call it Beatrix Potter because
0:08:22 > 0:08:26children will think, what has it to do with Harry Potter and confused
0:08:26 > 0:08:36Beatrix Potter.No Cumbrian or Lake District accent...Full of
0:08:36 > 0:08:41Australian actors who aren't doing their natural instincts. We have
0:08:41 > 0:08:46Margot Robbie and Sia.Ol Mr McGregor is Irish rather than
0:08:46 > 0:08:51Scottish.Sam Neil.I don't know if that is a vital thing. You are not
0:08:51 > 0:08:54coming over too strongly.My children would have liked a football
0:08:54 > 0:08:56match in it.
0:08:56 > 0:08:58So from the ridiculous to the sublime.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01Peter Rabbit is a much loved character in a childrens book.
0:09:01 > 0:09:03Mary Magdalene, on the other hand, is a much misunderstood
0:09:03 > 0:09:04character in the Bible.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07So it is argued in Mary Magdalene, the movie, starring Rooney Mara
0:09:07 > 0:09:11as Mary and Joaquin Phoenix as Jesus Christ.
0:09:11 > 0:09:14Director Garth Davis' film positions Mary Magdalene as Christ's
0:09:14 > 0:09:15most important apostle.
0:09:15 > 0:09:17So do we believe in Mary and the movie?
0:09:17 > 0:09:22Let's take a look.
0:09:22 > 0:09:28Mary. You brought shame on our family.There's something unnatural
0:09:28 > 0:09:36inside.No.Your family say you craple with the demon.If there's a
0:09:36 > 0:09:48demon in me, it's always been there. There are no demons here. Mary of
0:09:48 > 0:09:59Magdala. HeShe defies her family and leaves home and becomes dissiebl
0:09:59 > 0:10:07Jesus she witnesses his death and resurrection and unearths a great
0:10:07 > 0:10:13spiritual We must prepare truth.. We must wash away the stains of your
0:10:13 > 0:10:20corruption. And be born anew.It's a story that has never been told, the
0:10:20 > 0:10:25Mary Magdalene that we all know in popular culture as a prostitute, an
0:10:25 > 0:10:30inpension vention by a Pope in 591. This is the first time her story has
0:10:30 > 0:10:35been told in this way.What shall I teach?Are we so different from men
0:10:35 > 0:10:39that you must teach us different things? We are women. Our lives are
0:10:39 > 0:10:44not our own.To see this story that people are so familiar with, but
0:10:44 > 0:10:47seeing it through the eyes of a woman I thought was really
0:10:47 > 0:10:54interesting and powerful and different. I think that she sees
0:10:54 > 0:10:59something in him that perhaps maybe she hasn't herself. I think in that
0:10:59 > 0:11:03first meeting they have, he is probably the first person in her
0:11:03 > 0:11:07life ever to really truly see her. And I think it gives her the
0:11:07 > 0:11:13strength to follow that thing.
0:11:13 > 0:11:21I wanted to avoid all the Life of Brian moments and make it a very
0:11:21 > 0:11:24believable story and very human. How do you make a miracle feel
0:11:24 > 0:11:34believable? They were my challenges. I'll be with you to the end.
0:11:38 > 0:11:43So, life of Brian or the greatest story ever told?I have not read
0:11:43 > 0:11:49much of the Bible in my house when I was a kid. And I think a lot of
0:11:49 > 0:11:52people don't know Mary Magdalene's story. The fact that she has been
0:11:52 > 0:11:55depicted many times in culture and in paintings has some people
0:11:55 > 0:12:03confused with Mary, the mother.They were all called Mary and she has
0:12:03 > 0:12:07been regarded as a prostitute, which is completely wrong. So do you think
0:12:07 > 0:12:11this is worth doing at from a feminist point of view? She is
0:12:11 > 0:12:16mentioned a lot in the Bible story, but is overlooked.There is a very
0:12:16 > 0:12:18compelling and plausible argument that she was just a woman who was
0:12:18 > 0:12:22out of step with time. She didn't want to play the traditional female
0:12:22 > 0:12:27role, which was very narrow, and she also had a connection with Jesus.
0:12:27 > 0:12:31She is more Christ-like than Christ. She almost became a of Yoko Ono
0:12:31 > 0:12:36figure in that the men resented her for that connection. So that is very
0:12:36 > 0:12:39believable. The problem is that despite his radical take, is still
0:12:39 > 0:12:46manages to be a dull film!But it looks nice. There is beautifully
0:12:46 > 0:12:55stonewashed clothing.If you like death tones and sepia tablecloths.
0:12:55 > 0:13:00Beige and more beige.50 shades of beige.The award-winning designer
0:13:00 > 0:13:05doesn't do much with the cloth is here. It sort of argues that she
0:13:05 > 0:13:08wasn't a prostitute, but doesn't really posit what she was, she was
0:13:08 > 0:13:11just someone who got up from the dinner table and said, dad, I'm
0:13:11 > 0:13:16going to follow that hippie guy that you would like.But all the
0:13:16 > 0:13:22disciples did that.
0:13:22 > 0:13:25disciples did that. And what about Joaquin Phoenix as Jesus Christ? It
0:13:25 > 0:13:29is a difficult role. He's quite rugged and windswept.I can see what
0:13:29 > 0:13:34they were going for with Joaquin and Rooney Mara. There are both actors
0:13:34 > 0:13:38we know for intense performances, so it makes sense with them in the
0:13:38 > 0:13:42role, but the script doesn't give them the material to realise their
0:13:42 > 0:13:46potential.They have a platonic relationship, not a sexual one. That
0:13:46 > 0:13:56is traditional.There is passion in this Christ. To see Joaquin Phoenix
0:13:56 > 0:13:59playing Jesus is interesting because Jesus is like James Bond on the one
0:13:59 > 0:14:04you like is the one you grow up with.Who is your favourite?Robert
0:14:04 > 0:14:09Powell was the one I saw on telly, or David Essex.But do you think
0:14:09 > 0:14:12this is for believers, Christians looking at the story, or is it for
0:14:12 > 0:14:16non-believers? Not much of a decision is taken as far as Jesus is
0:14:16 > 0:14:24concerned. He could be the son of God or he could be a frustrated
0:14:24 > 0:14:27leader.That is one of the interesting things about him, that
0:14:27 > 0:14:31it brings out the secondary characters in the story. Judas is
0:14:31 > 0:14:34interesting.They give an explanation as to why he betrayed
0:14:34 > 0:14:39Jesus, which is not for the money, but because he was impatient to get
0:14:39 > 0:14:43on with things.Which again seems plausible. That is one of the better
0:14:43 > 0:14:47parts.It is interesting because I don't know how feminist this reading
0:14:47 > 0:14:53could be. Like most men, he thinks he is God, but show does she. So I
0:14:53 > 0:14:57don't see about the revisionism. Well, you couldn't rewrite it
0:14:57 > 0:15:03entirely and make her Christ.Faith -based films can make huge money at
0:15:03 > 0:15:07the box office, and I'm not sure this one has enough faith in itself
0:15:07 > 0:15:11to carry it off.Doesn't like you have become believers in the movie.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15The classic rom-com Sleepless in Seattle may be 25
0:15:15 > 0:15:19years old this year, but it seems writer-director
0:15:19 > 0:15:23Nora Ephron and her work continues to inspire filmmakers old and new.
0:15:23 > 0:15:27Theatre director Josie Rourke, whose debut film Mary Queen of Scots,
0:15:27 > 0:15:31starring Margot Robbie and Saoirse Ronan, comes out
0:15:31 > 0:15:34later this year, says Ephron is her own personal cinematic hero
0:15:34 > 0:15:36and with films like When Harry Met Sally,
0:15:36 > 0:15:38Heartburn and Julie and Julia in Ephron's back catalogue,
0:15:38 > 0:15:45it's easy to see why.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49Yes! Yes! Yes!There is no way we are going on a plane to meet someone
0:15:49 > 0:15:55who could be a crazy lunatic.Men and women can't be friends because
0:15:55 > 0:16:01the sex part always gets in the way. I'll have what she's having.Nora
0:16:01 > 0:16:08Efron is such a hero of mine. From before I was trying to make films, I
0:16:08 > 0:16:12felt what was important in my childhood was to find women who had
0:16:12 > 0:16:16incredible, truthful and funny voices.I have a number of men
0:16:16 > 0:16:21friends and there is no sex involved.No, you don't. You only
0:16:21 > 0:16:25think you do.I had seen a lot of black and white films like the
0:16:25 > 0:16:29Philadelphia story and the Tracy and Hepburn movies, and I then went on a
0:16:29 > 0:16:33search that I have probably been on for the rest of my life creatively
0:16:33 > 0:16:39for films that are romantic comedies that have amazing parts for women.I
0:16:39 > 0:16:46don't mean to be rude.And I don't want to invade your privacy.I loved
0:16:46 > 0:16:49Sleepless In Seattle. I was just old enough to see it at the cinema. The
0:16:49 > 0:16:55way in which she manages to have you feeling the great affair to remember
0:16:55 > 0:16:59riff that sits in that movie, that she and Tom Hanks are close all the
0:16:59 > 0:17:05time. The way in which they are inevitably drawn together, you know
0:17:05 > 0:17:08it's going to happen. One of the great pleasures of romantic comedy
0:17:08 > 0:17:13is that it says to you very quietly, don't worry, this is going to go OK.
0:17:13 > 0:17:20It is holding you by the hand. In a sense, the delight of what makes a
0:17:20 > 0:17:25romantic comedy truly great is how a writer and director can navigate the
0:17:25 > 0:17:30space between two inevitable points. You are only going from A to D, and
0:17:30 > 0:17:37she does that with dexterity.Jonah, tell the truth, are you spying on
0:17:37 > 0:17:47your father?But within it, there is the most brilliant part Meg Ryan.
0:17:47 > 0:17:52The inch thinking about her is that she clearly had these muses
0:17:52 > 0:17:58throughout her career, Nora Efron, understanding what it is to write
0:17:58 > 0:18:02for a particular act and to direct a particular actor more than once and
0:18:02 > 0:18:05the nuance of that. You can see that sometimes she has left her a huge
0:18:05 > 0:18:10amount of space in which to fall into a comic rhythm of her own.I
0:18:10 > 0:18:13was listening to him talk about how much he loved his wife and suddenly
0:18:13 > 0:18:17I was crying. It is like when I watch those phone company adds a
0:18:17 > 0:18:22guidance have to see the whole thing.One of the things I really
0:18:22 > 0:18:25admire about her writing is how brilliantly she writes about female
0:18:25 > 0:18:29friendship. So I have just done this movie that although it is a big
0:18:29 > 0:18:34period drama, has many observations about female friendship at the heart
0:18:34 > 0:18:39of it and is powered by that. And to see her write with such brilliance
0:18:39 > 0:18:42around that, the kind of Rosie O'Donnell Meg Ryan axis is
0:18:42 > 0:18:48particularly brilliant.The Polaroid commercial, the 25-year-olds of
0:18:48 > 0:18:53their grandfather's birthday? That kills me.I love the scene where you
0:18:53 > 0:18:57are in Tom Hanks' place in Seattle and there are two guys and Rita
0:18:57 > 0:19:02Wilson and Rita Wilson does this rift where she talks about an affair
0:19:02 > 0:19:04to remember and the classic thing where he starts to tear up.It's so
0:19:04 > 0:19:09amazing when he comes to see her, because he doesn't even notice that
0:19:09 > 0:19:13she doesn't get up to say hello. Under something amazing about the
0:19:13 > 0:19:16dialogue of that. You have three people talking over each other at
0:19:16 > 0:19:20the same time, which happens in theatre a lot. I have just made my
0:19:20 > 0:19:24first film and I have perpetually been told off by the sound guy for
0:19:24 > 0:19:28having people talk over each other all the time. So I now know how
0:19:28 > 0:19:32technically hard that is to achieve. It is easier to be killed by a
0:19:32 > 0:19:38terrorist than to find a husband after 30.That is untrue!And there
0:19:38 > 0:19:42is this brilliant piece of mocking where the guys start to talk about
0:19:42 > 0:19:46the dirty dozen and tear up at the same time. The idea that she is just
0:19:46 > 0:19:51the most classy
0:19:53 > 0:19:57the most classy mocker of people is amazing.Winter must be cold for
0:19:57 > 0:20:03those with no warm memories. We have already missed the spring.I think
0:20:03 > 0:20:06that in order to understand that you can push forward as a woman and have
0:20:06 > 0:20:13a career in film which is no small thing, you need heroes and icons,
0:20:13 > 0:20:18but you also need sisters. And I think Nora Ephron was both.
0:20:18 > 0:20:23Amazingly, in her portrayals of female friendships in her movies and
0:20:23 > 0:20:26her writing and in her long-standing collaborations with actors in
0:20:26 > 0:20:32particular who she worked with a lot like Meg Ryan and Meryl Streep, she
0:20:32 > 0:20:36was not only proving heroism, but also solidarity, and that seems to
0:20:36 > 0:20:46belong to this moment.Men never get this movie.I know!Good to see Mary
0:20:46 > 0:20:51Queen of Scots as a rom-com. You are a romantic plot. I have some tweets
0:20:51 > 0:20:56from Mark, who nominates an affair to remember. It meant I consequently
0:20:56 > 0:21:00proposed to my now ex-wife on top of the Empire State Building. Next is
0:21:00 > 0:21:06the winner of this year's Palme D'Or, The Square.
0:21:06 > 0:21:08It is the latest epic from Ruben Ostland,
0:21:08 > 0:21:09the Swedish Director of 2014
0:21:09 > 0:21:10arthouse hit, Force Majeure.
0:21:10 > 0:21:13The Square is not so much arthouse as art world satire
0:21:13 > 0:21:17in which pretensions are pricked, the liberal elite is liberally
0:21:17 > 0:21:20mocked and a monkey man runs amok at a black tie banquet.
0:21:20 > 0:21:28Lots of laughs and lots to think about, but is it art?
0:21:28 > 0:21:33What are the biggest challenges in running a museum?We are a museum of
0:21:33 > 0:21:39modern Art, so we need to present art that is the art of today,
0:21:39 > 0:21:42cutting-edge, and the competition is fierce.It's a satire on the art
0:21:42 > 0:21:51world. But it's a very funny satire. If you place an object in a museum,
0:21:51 > 0:21:55does that make this object a piece of art?It's interesting when some
0:21:55 > 0:22:03people in the art world get a little bit hurt, but they are so silly.
0:22:03 > 0:22:07They have to be to criticise themselves.For instance, if we took
0:22:07 > 0:22:15your bag and placed it here, would that make it art?
0:22:16 > 0:22:24that make it art?Ah. OK.As is the case with a lot of his films, it
0:22:24 > 0:22:28makes you feel incredibly uncomfortable and squirmy.I love
0:22:28 > 0:22:31when you are laughing a lot and then you suddenly feel, was my reaction
0:22:31 > 0:22:36loud?
0:22:41 > 0:22:49loud? But I can tell you, you're allowed to laugh.
0:22:49 > 0:22:51allowed to laugh.You do the first four or five takes and then he goes
0:22:51 > 0:22:56great, now we are going to turn the camera on. There is a scene where
0:22:56 > 0:23:02class, the lead actor, is going through a garbage skip in the rain,
0:23:02 > 0:23:08and a shot that 100 times.It takes three years to write the script. Why
0:23:08 > 0:23:12should I accept that it only takes 30 days to shoot the film? It is a
0:23:12 > 0:23:21visual expression we are dealing with. We are trying to make a movie.
0:23:28 > 0:23:32So it is an arty film about the arts and here we are on a late-night
0:23:32 > 0:23:35discussion talking about a danger of disappearing up our own arts, but
0:23:35 > 0:23:39did you enjoy this?I did. It should come with some warnings, though. It
0:23:39 > 0:23:45is very long and disordered in a way that you feel every minute of that
0:23:45 > 0:23:50length.It is episodic, but I didn't mind the length. But towards the
0:23:50 > 0:23:54end, I was getting annoyed that he wasn't tying in the various
0:23:54 > 0:23:59episodes.To me, it felt like walking around a contemporary art
0:23:59 > 0:24:02exhibition that it is satirising. I just want people to know what they
0:24:02 > 0:24:06are getting themselves into.But sometimes that length is useful.
0:24:06 > 0:24:10There is the scene with the monkey man where this man comes in and
0:24:10 > 0:24:14disrupts the party. It is supposed to be a performance piece and you
0:24:14 > 0:24:17watch this 11th minute scene and is one of the great set pieces of
0:24:17 > 0:24:23European cinema. You are willing it never to start, and yet once you are
0:24:23 > 0:24:26watching, you are don't want it to end.And it goes on for perfectly
0:24:26 > 0:24:30too long. It gets a bit weird, because him smashing a few glasses
0:24:30 > 0:24:35or thumping his chest is one thing, but a near rape goes on and only
0:24:35 > 0:24:44then do people react. Earlier in the film, it is more like W 18, the
0:24:44 > 0:24:47meetings and discussions.That is something people should know as
0:24:47 > 0:24:51well. It is not aggressively anti-interpretation as we think of
0:24:51 > 0:24:54art films as being, there are some relatable moments with meetings
0:24:54 > 0:24:58where people bring up the ice bucket challenge and wonder how to recreate
0:24:58 > 0:25:05it.Because it is set in Sweden, even more than if it was in London
0:25:05 > 0:25:08or New York, the contrast with the clean lines of these luscious
0:25:08 > 0:25:16people, and on the streets there are beggars everywhere.
0:25:19 > 0:25:24beggars everywhere.Claes Bang was perfectly cast.There are moral
0:25:24 > 0:25:28dilemmas like if you lost your mobile phone, what would you do? And
0:25:28 > 0:25:32you can imagine executives watching the film and going, what would I do?
0:25:32 > 0:25:36There is a great setup, because he has an underling who comes up with a
0:25:36 > 0:25:41solution and there is a difficult thing to do. And there is a passive
0:25:41 > 0:25:46aggression between the two of them and it goes wrong in a way that was
0:25:46 > 0:25:49predictable.Everything goes slightly wrong. Everything falls
0:25:49 > 0:25:54apart and he ends up in this rubbish heap.And there is a sexual affair
0:25:54 > 0:26:01he has. What did you make of that? Exquisitely uncomfortable.But we
0:26:01 > 0:26:06don't quite get the result of that. It fades into the background.But I
0:26:06 > 0:26:11didn't mind. One thing this film is good at which absolves it of all
0:26:11 > 0:26:15sins is genuinely shocking you. So many films promised to do that and
0:26:15 > 0:26:18us jaded audience members don't usually get that.There is an odd
0:26:18 > 0:26:22bit with a condom. I could never work out what was going on. And
0:26:22 > 0:26:27there is a film called red road that explored a way of taking the context
0:26:27 > 0:26:31of a condom and doing something with it, but that doesn't happen, it is
0:26:31 > 0:26:36just done for shock value.It has opened up a strange sub of films
0:26:36 > 0:26:42here. There is a tug-of-war over the condom as well. The art world satire
0:26:42 > 0:26:47is easy sometimes, and yet this one does it rather smugly in a fairly
0:26:47 > 0:26:51Swedish, clean way, and yet pulls you in. And here we are, smugly
0:26:51 > 0:26:55talking about it.And there is a press conference in somebody with to
0:26:55 > 0:26:59rid syndrome is shouting out obscenities and everybody is saying,
0:26:59 > 0:27:02we will carry on with that, however bad the criticism of the whole
0:27:02 > 0:27:07thing. Anyway, we have now come to the point where you have to say what
0:27:07 > 0:27:13your film of the week it is.It is hip to be square, so it is The
0:27:13 > 0:27:23Square.Me too.This is most unfortunate. That would be my film.
0:27:23 > 0:27:29No vote for Peter Rabbit? All right. So we have made that decision.
0:27:29 > 0:27:30So that's it.
0:27:30 > 0:27:32Next week Al Murray, presumably not in his Pub Landlord character,
0:27:32 > 0:27:34will be sitting right here and taking charge.
0:27:34 > 0:27:39Playing us out tonight is a clip from My Generation,
0:27:39 > 0:27:43a new documentary about the '60s cultural revolution in Britain,
0:27:43 > 0:27:46narrated by Sir Michael Caine
0:27:46 > 0:27:50who, as it happens, is 85 today.
0:27:50 > 0:27:53Caine's screen career was supercharged in the 1960s
0:27:53 > 0:27:55when he was cast as Alfie by Lewis Gilbert,
0:27:55 > 0:27:58the prolific director who died a couple of weeks ago.
0:27:58 > 0:28:00So with a fond farewell to Lewis and a happy
0:28:00 > 0:28:06birthday to Sir Michael - good night!
0:28:07 > 0:28:12Growing up in London in the 1950s was predictable and dull. My
0:28:12 > 0:28:18direction demanded a new beginning. It was the first time in the future
0:28:18 > 0:28:24was shaped by young people.
0:28:24 > 0:28:26was shaped by young people.They have got these rules about how to
0:28:26 > 0:28:32live, and it's just not true any more.You didn't hear modern speech,
0:28:32 > 0:28:40but then you did.And they never shut me up.Police raided Keith
0:28:40 > 0:28:46Richards' house.This isn't the first generation that has questioned
0:28:46 > 0:28:52the moral values of the last generation.It was our time. The
0:28:52 > 0:28:59best time of our lives.