0:00:02 > 0:00:05Stand by as the listeners to the biggest radio show in the country
0:00:05 > 0:00:08are given their own TV show.
0:00:09 > 0:00:11Norman!
0:00:11 > 0:00:13Anne-Marie.
0:00:13 > 0:00:15Marie!
0:00:15 > 0:00:17Bernie.
0:00:19 > 0:00:22Carmel.
0:00:23 > 0:00:24Mervyn...
0:00:24 > 0:00:26and Heidi.
0:00:28 > 0:00:29Radio Face is not recorded live
0:00:29 > 0:00:32but after the programme has finished,
0:00:32 > 0:00:35these are real listeners to The Nolan Show,
0:00:35 > 0:00:39continuing the conversation while I stay in the studio
0:00:39 > 0:00:43and they speak to me from their own homes and cars.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50RADIO PLAYS COUNTRY STYLE SONG
0:00:50 > 0:00:53# Did you ever get a ride, did you ever get a ride?
0:00:53 > 0:00:55# Did you ever get a ride on a tractor?
0:00:55 > 0:00:59- Could you put those on double speed? - No.- This is really dangerous.
0:00:59 > 0:01:01# Did you ever get a ride on a tractor?
0:01:01 > 0:01:03# No, I never had a ride on a tractor
0:01:03 > 0:01:07# Did you ever get a ride on a tractor? #
0:01:07 > 0:01:09# No, I never got a ride, never got a ride
0:01:09 > 0:01:11# Never got a ride on a tractor!#
0:01:11 > 0:01:15Dopey, dopey tractors! They drive you absolutely insane!
0:01:15 > 0:01:17Don't they? Why are we talking about this today?
0:01:17 > 0:01:19Well, a consultation has begun
0:01:19 > 0:01:21about raising the speed limit for tractors
0:01:21 > 0:01:23from 20 to 25mph.
0:01:23 > 0:01:26A big jump of 5mph there.
0:01:26 > 0:01:28Will it make any difference?
0:01:28 > 0:01:31Patrick McNicol is a sheep farmer. Morning, Patrick.
0:01:31 > 0:01:34- Is it me you're talking to now? - Yes, Patrick.
0:01:34 > 0:01:39Hello. We're just going about our business. We're just like yourself.
0:01:39 > 0:01:41We're very considerate people
0:01:41 > 0:01:45because, you see, we're only like you boys doing our business,
0:01:45 > 0:01:4990% of the time. You know, because you're driving through our farmland.
0:01:49 > 0:01:52- We have to go about our work too, you know.- Get off the road!
0:01:52 > 0:01:55- What do we do? Buy helicopters? - You what?
0:01:55 > 0:01:58I couldn't make out a bloody thing that man was saying.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01But here, Stephen, on a personal note,
0:02:01 > 0:02:03have you ever had a ride on a tractor?
0:02:05 > 0:02:08They're not supposed to be on the road. Don't they have red diesel?
0:02:08 > 0:02:09Get over yourself!
0:02:09 > 0:02:12They're taxed and insured. They're entitled to be on the road.
0:02:12 > 0:02:14They're doing a very valuable job.
0:02:14 > 0:02:18There should be a rule that when one of you lot are on the road
0:02:18 > 0:02:20on your tractor, if there's a car behind you,
0:02:20 > 0:02:22you should be required to pull in.
0:02:22 > 0:02:25I agree with you 100%. Correct!
0:02:25 > 0:02:27Well, why don't yous do it?
0:02:27 > 0:02:29Well, if they build the roads in such a way as we can pull in.
0:02:29 > 0:02:30Where were we to go?
0:02:30 > 0:02:34Trundling along on our roads. Seriously! Back me up here.
0:02:34 > 0:02:37We are living in a rural economy.
0:02:37 > 0:02:40And if a tractor has to drive slowly from field to field
0:02:40 > 0:02:41and I'm on a country lane,
0:02:41 > 0:02:43then I'm quite happy to sit in behind him.
0:02:43 > 0:02:48- But, I tell you something, they'll be fecked!- Fecked all right.
0:02:48 > 0:02:52Especially the ones that raise cattle for slaughtering,
0:02:52 > 0:02:55- for meat. Or the sheep. - I think that's terrible.
0:02:55 > 0:02:57I would say they have a quare bank.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00I've a lot of sheep. They're not good at the present time.
0:03:00 > 0:03:02We're taking a pure hammer.
0:03:02 > 0:03:06- How many sheep do you have? - I wouldn't know - I've sold one.
0:03:06 > 0:03:08You never know how many sheep you have.
0:03:08 > 0:03:10You know how many you have if somebody stole some,
0:03:10 > 0:03:13but you wouldn't be running about counting them all the time.
0:03:13 > 0:03:15Thank you, Patrick!
0:03:15 > 0:03:17What did I tell you?
0:03:17 > 0:03:19If it wasn't for a tractor, digging up your spuds,
0:03:19 > 0:03:24- what would you have for your dinner? - Rice.- You need it.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27I think the farmers drive their tractors really slow
0:03:27 > 0:03:29just to get up the townies' noses.
0:03:29 > 0:03:33You think the farmers do it for badness? Why do you say that?
0:03:33 > 0:03:34Sometimes, I think,
0:03:34 > 0:03:37just to slow the traffic up sometimes,
0:03:37 > 0:03:42- I would say. - Everybody's always in a rush!
0:03:42 > 0:03:45It is very annoying sometimes.
0:03:45 > 0:03:47You're out on the road and you get a tractor,
0:03:47 > 0:03:51especially if you're in a hurry going to Newcastle, or somewhere.
0:03:51 > 0:03:54Say, blooming tractor's stuck on the front of me here.
0:03:54 > 0:03:55I say, wait a minute,
0:03:55 > 0:03:58who puts the stuff on the plate in front of you?
0:03:58 > 0:04:00Your fried egg and your bacon and your sausages?
0:04:00 > 0:04:04They're going to the farmers? If we hadn't them, what would we do?
0:04:04 > 0:04:07The thing is, I don't know how you would solve it.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09The only solution to it's patience.
0:04:09 > 0:04:12Do you remember the time, Anne-Marie, seeing Stephen Nolan
0:04:12 > 0:04:15- on that farm, talking about that tractor business?- Yes.
0:04:15 > 0:04:18Cleaning up all the cows' geek.
0:04:18 > 0:04:20You look like something out of Little Britain
0:04:20 > 0:04:23but you didn't have your PVC stuff on.
0:04:23 > 0:04:27While the cows are in the parlour, I'm cleaning out their barn and...
0:04:27 > 0:04:28Ooh! ..does it need it?
0:04:34 > 0:04:35I just... Eurgh!
0:04:35 > 0:04:37HE GAGS AND GASPS
0:04:37 > 0:04:39COWS MOO
0:04:39 > 0:04:42I can't!
0:04:42 > 0:04:44HE RETCHES
0:04:49 > 0:04:51MOOING CONTINUES
0:04:54 > 0:04:57HE GROANS LOUDLY WHILE VOMITING
0:05:03 > 0:05:06MORE LOUD GROANS
0:05:06 > 0:05:09Could you not be more of a man and boaked off camera?
0:05:09 > 0:05:12Only wimps haven't got a stomach.
0:05:12 > 0:05:14So he'll know the next time he goes to the farm
0:05:14 > 0:05:16not to have anything to eat.
0:05:16 > 0:05:19- But then how long? Stephen wouldn't have an empty stomach.- No.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21- It would have to be filled.- Yeah.
0:05:21 > 0:05:24He couldn't go without his breakfast, lunch, and supper.
0:05:24 > 0:05:27I know. A good fry-up, there, you must have boaked up.
0:05:27 > 0:05:29There was lumps in it.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32I've seen lumpy bits. Hold on. You've been on the farm.
0:05:32 > 0:05:36How do you know what to do with farms and what to do with cows?
0:05:36 > 0:05:39Fresh milk. Put your hand up there.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41Ooh! I think I've hurt it!
0:05:41 > 0:05:44You wouldn't know what a cow looked like.
0:05:44 > 0:05:46Only if you looked in the mirror!
0:05:46 > 0:05:47One end to the other!
0:05:52 > 0:05:55It's 9.00am. It's The Nolan Show on BBC Radio Ulster.
0:05:55 > 0:05:58And, of course, the role of the programme
0:05:58 > 0:06:01is to give you at home the chance to have your say. Pick up the phone.
0:06:01 > 0:06:05- Let's see's who's on line one. - Craigavon, the best place to live?
0:06:05 > 0:06:07Catch yourself on, it's a complete and utter dump.
0:06:07 > 0:06:09Tell me what you mean by that.
0:06:09 > 0:06:11Unfortunately, my daughter's like her mother.
0:06:11 > 0:06:13She's been gifted with big bones.
0:06:13 > 0:06:17- Hello. How are you?- Well, listening to these two, how would you be?
0:06:17 > 0:06:19Well, I'm going to give you just as much.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21It just seems to be that we're giving cyclists
0:06:21 > 0:06:24so many little priorities now, aren't we?
0:06:24 > 0:06:27You're so rude it's unbelievable. And stop burping!
0:06:31 > 0:06:35RADIO TUNING THROUGH STATIONS
0:06:35 > 0:06:37Now, breast-feeding's all over the news
0:06:37 > 0:06:40because of comments from the Ukip leader Nigel Farage.
0:06:40 > 0:06:42He said women should not breast-feed in public
0:06:42 > 0:06:46in what he calls "an openly, ostentatious way."
0:06:46 > 0:06:47LAUGHTER
0:06:47 > 0:06:49He says he doesn't have any problem at all
0:06:49 > 0:06:52with women feeding their baby wherever they want
0:06:52 > 0:06:54but they shouldn't do so ostentatiously.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57It all depends who owns the breast.
0:06:57 > 0:07:00If she's an extremely fit, good-looking woman,...
0:07:00 > 0:07:04- You're disgusting.- ..well made, that is OK.- You're a disgusting specimen.
0:07:04 > 0:07:08If her what-d'you-call-its are hanging on her kneecaps, no.
0:07:08 > 0:07:11It would put you off your sausages, so it would.
0:07:11 > 0:07:13Seeing a woman breast-feed a child.
0:07:13 > 0:07:15I don't want to see a woman breast-feeding a child.
0:07:15 > 0:07:19I've seen my wife doing it. Why am I going to see another woman?
0:07:19 > 0:07:21Would you breast-feed in public?
0:07:21 > 0:07:25- No, because I think...- She wouldn't be able to hold the baby!
0:07:27 > 0:07:30Do you know my point of view to the people complaining?
0:07:30 > 0:07:33If a woman's breast-feeding and you don't like it, look the other way.
0:07:33 > 0:07:34Mind your own business.
0:07:34 > 0:07:35Well, that's right,
0:07:35 > 0:07:38but all you also have to do is just pull a cardigan over.
0:07:38 > 0:07:40They can cover up, they can put a shawl around them.
0:07:40 > 0:07:44They don't even need to cover up. That's what breasts were for.
0:07:44 > 0:07:47In a recent incident at Claridge's Hotel in London,
0:07:47 > 0:07:50a mother was asked to cover up with a napkin,
0:07:50 > 0:07:51while feeding her baby daughter.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54There were protests outside Claridge's.
0:07:54 > 0:07:57Virginia Blackburn, no less, the columnist of the Daily Express.
0:07:57 > 0:07:59- Good morning, Virginia.- Hi there.
0:07:59 > 0:08:03You don't want people sitting beside you in a restaurant breast-feeding.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05In fact, you don't even want babies gurgling?
0:08:05 > 0:08:06I have no problem with babies gurgling.
0:08:06 > 0:08:10The point I was making was that babies make an absolute racket
0:08:10 > 0:08:12when they are breast-feeding.
0:08:12 > 0:08:16Never heard that. I breast-fed and it didn't make a racket.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19I think this is a question of appropriate behaviour.
0:08:19 > 0:08:22How people should behave when they are out in public.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25Some women mightn't worry about throwing them out,
0:08:25 > 0:08:28many of them do but, we're living in a day and age
0:08:28 > 0:08:31where people just please themselves and that's the way it goes.
0:08:31 > 0:08:34I suppose they don't care who they offend, or anything.
0:08:34 > 0:08:38Say a woman in a restaurant starts breast-feeding a child beside you.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41Would you not feel uncomfortable? Because I would.
0:08:41 > 0:08:45What they could do, if they didn't want to do it in public,
0:08:45 > 0:08:48they could express the milk and put it into a bottle.
0:08:48 > 0:08:51- And then feed them. - They could do what?
0:08:51 > 0:08:54You can express it and put it in a bottle.
0:08:54 > 0:08:57A pump on the boob and the pump sucks the milk out.
0:08:57 > 0:09:01Put it into a bottle and the child's still getting the breast milk.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- I didn't know you could do that. - That's because you're a man.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07Sure, you've big enough breasts to try it yourself.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10Get a wee bit of a shave around the nipples and then just latch on!
0:09:15 > 0:09:17I'm just laughing grimly here to myself.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19If you are breast-feeding your baby,
0:09:19 > 0:09:21you don't want to be starting him on bottles, as well.
0:09:21 > 0:09:24I'm just looking at the picture of Louise Burns,
0:09:24 > 0:09:26the woman who was asked to cover up. in Claridge's.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28There's a bit of a before and after picture.
0:09:28 > 0:09:30You can see nothing.
0:09:31 > 0:09:34No. You usually can't because the baby's attached to it.
0:09:34 > 0:09:36But that's not really the point.
0:09:36 > 0:09:37People are being exposed to an activity
0:09:37 > 0:09:40which many, many people think should have been done in private.
0:09:40 > 0:09:42My mother's generation
0:09:42 > 0:09:44would not have dreamt of breast-feeding in public.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47It's just modesty, really.
0:09:47 > 0:09:49I think they should have a wee bit of modesty, the people.
0:09:49 > 0:09:52Look at how many doorways is open there. I would say...
0:09:52 > 0:09:56- If you can pass and see someone with their boob out in a doorway.- No, no!
0:09:57 > 0:10:02I personally couldn't do it and it was very, very emotive for me,
0:10:02 > 0:10:04but I would love for it to be allowed
0:10:04 > 0:10:06and nobody would even raise an eyebrow
0:10:06 > 0:10:09because it's the natural way of things.
0:10:09 > 0:10:11If you go to Claridge's, for goodness' sakes,
0:10:11 > 0:10:14you don't want the sight and the sound of a ratty little baby
0:10:14 > 0:10:15being fed in front of you.
0:10:15 > 0:10:17That's not what you're there for.
0:10:17 > 0:10:21A little baby needs fed. A little baby might be hungry.
0:10:21 > 0:10:23I'm not saying that a baby shouldn't be fed
0:10:23 > 0:10:27but all they asked her was to cover herself with a napkin.
0:10:27 > 0:10:30At the end of the day, people will do it.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33No, they won't, because they feel self-conscious and they don't do it
0:10:33 > 0:10:35because it's that old-fashioned, stuffy attitude.
0:10:35 > 0:10:38"Look what they're doing! She shouldn't be doing that."
0:10:38 > 0:10:40It still exists in our society and it shouldn't.
0:10:40 > 0:10:41I don't have a problem with it.
0:10:41 > 0:10:45She can go to the toilet and, if she wants to breast-feed,
0:10:45 > 0:10:47she can breast-feed it in the woman's toilet.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50Not in front of people who are eating their dinner.
0:10:50 > 0:10:54- I doubt you would eat your dinner in the toilets.- No, Stephen.
0:10:54 > 0:10:58A woman can take a bottle with her and feed the child.
0:10:58 > 0:11:00Yes, but if she wants to feed the child
0:11:00 > 0:11:03and she wants to have her dinner with the child, then logic follows
0:11:03 > 0:11:06she'd have to go into the toilet and eat her dinner with her child.
0:11:06 > 0:11:08Why? In a filthy, dirty toilet?
0:11:08 > 0:11:12Being a parent, I wouldn't bring a child into a toilet
0:11:12 > 0:11:14to breast-feed.
0:11:14 > 0:11:17- You shouldn't have to. - Well, it's respect.
0:11:17 > 0:11:19A woman has to have respect.
0:11:19 > 0:11:24Would you pick a Royal Avenue where every woman who has a child
0:11:24 > 0:11:27decides to breast-feed in a Royal Avenue full of women
0:11:27 > 0:11:29breast-feeding children.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32Or men standing in alleyways having a pee in an alleyway.
0:11:32 > 0:11:36That's the road we'd be going down, so it would.
0:11:36 > 0:11:38Once you bring breast-feeding in.
0:11:38 > 0:11:40You're equating it to urination?
0:11:40 > 0:11:44Someone naturally feeding their child?
0:11:44 > 0:11:46Women say breasts and feeding is nature.
0:11:46 > 0:11:49Well, so is a man needing the toilet nature.
0:11:49 > 0:11:50There is no difference.
0:11:50 > 0:11:56Men are going to compare us women breast-feeding and that's natural.
0:11:56 > 0:11:58We can compare them that's going to the toilet
0:11:58 > 0:12:01in the street, cos that's not natural!
0:12:01 > 0:12:03If a man needs to go to the toilet,
0:12:03 > 0:12:05he'll look for the nearest entry.
0:12:05 > 0:12:07If you need the toilet, you need the toilet.
0:12:07 > 0:12:09It's either that or you're going to wet your pants.
0:12:09 > 0:12:11- Fionnuala?- I don't even know where to start.
0:12:11 > 0:12:15It's really sad, actually. The two things are very different.
0:12:15 > 0:12:18They're both natural bodily functions. They are both necessary.
0:12:18 > 0:12:21If you see a man standing with his back to you,
0:12:21 > 0:12:24obviously urinating, it's still a highly offensive activity.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27You know what I find highly offensive?
0:12:27 > 0:12:29Equating urinating with breast-feeding
0:12:29 > 0:12:30I find highly offensive.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34I'm sure you do but it's an attitude that an awful lot of people share.
0:12:34 > 0:12:38How would you feel if you were sitting in your car
0:12:38 > 0:12:43eating a KFC and somebody came along and pissed up beside the car?
0:12:43 > 0:12:45That's completely different, isn't it?
0:12:45 > 0:12:47You'd get up and beat the fuck out of him.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50Put it this way, it's the same as a woman's chest hanging out
0:12:50 > 0:12:52when she is breast-feeding.
0:12:52 > 0:12:55Would you fuck up and give me a chance?
0:12:55 > 0:12:59There was a thing on Facebook of a woman had this wee device
0:12:59 > 0:13:02and she could stand up and piddle!
0:13:03 > 0:13:05WIND HOWLS AND BELL TOLLS
0:13:09 > 0:13:12I've told you, inside voice should stay inside.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14- Well... - STEPHEN LAUGHS
0:13:14 > 0:13:17My wife was going to the Kennedy Centre on Patrick's Day
0:13:17 > 0:13:19with my seven-year-old son,
0:13:19 > 0:13:21and there was three individuals
0:13:21 > 0:13:24pissing in the residential street where we live.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26And, you know, there is a responsibility
0:13:26 > 0:13:27in all of us to show respect.
0:13:27 > 0:13:30Stephen, I've been down to Belfast with the wife
0:13:30 > 0:13:32and I asked the council
0:13:32 > 0:13:36"Where's the toilets in Belfast for people to go to?"
0:13:36 > 0:13:40I have to go away to Castle Court shopping centre to get a toilet.
0:13:40 > 0:13:43Thankfully, I have no trouble with the plumbing system
0:13:43 > 0:13:47but there's other people, maybe, not as fortunate as I am
0:13:47 > 0:13:48and will just take a chance
0:13:48 > 0:13:52and when they have to get in a doorway, or somewhere,
0:13:52 > 0:13:55on course just trying to hold on.
0:13:55 > 0:13:59Maybe if they stop funding the like of the Irish Language Centres
0:13:59 > 0:14:00and the Ulster Scots,
0:14:00 > 0:14:04maybe they could use that money to put pop-up toilets in the city.
0:14:04 > 0:14:07I wonder what a tourist would say coming to Belfast
0:14:07 > 0:14:11and he needs to go to the toilet and can't find a toilet.
0:14:15 > 0:14:19Radio Face, where the stars of the Nolan radio programme
0:14:19 > 0:14:22get their own TV show.
0:14:25 > 0:14:27RADIO TUNES THROUGH CHANNELS
0:14:28 > 0:14:31A devastated mother has contacted The Nolan Show
0:14:31 > 0:14:34after her profoundly disabled daughter was told
0:14:34 > 0:14:37she was not welcome to stay in the seat she was in
0:14:37 > 0:14:40at a pantomime at the Grand Opera House.
0:14:40 > 0:14:41Other members of the audience
0:14:41 > 0:14:44had complained about the noise her daughter was making.
0:14:45 > 0:14:47Amy has toys 24 hours a day.
0:14:47 > 0:14:50It's how she engages in life and enjoys life.
0:14:50 > 0:14:53If she doesn't have a toy, she can't engage in anything.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56She gets all her sensory stimulation from them.
0:14:56 > 0:14:57Within 20 minutes,
0:14:57 > 0:15:00I was aware that staff were watching from the sides.
0:15:00 > 0:15:05And then I was approached by a lady who I assumed was management
0:15:05 > 0:15:08who said that the toys would have to be removed from Amy.
0:15:10 > 0:15:14You paid for it, surely you want to go and get it in peace.
0:15:14 > 0:15:18And the wee girl wanted to go too so... Why take her along to the show
0:15:18 > 0:15:19if she didn't want to listen?
0:15:19 > 0:15:23She couldn't listen to the phone or radio or whatever
0:15:23 > 0:15:26she has playing and follow the show at the same time.
0:15:26 > 0:15:30See the ones that complained? They should've been removed.
0:15:30 > 0:15:34Because if it's a pantomime, pantomimes are for children.
0:15:34 > 0:15:36- Aye.- They are not for adults.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39That child had no more interest in what was going on in the
0:15:39 > 0:15:41Opera House than the man on the moon.
0:15:41 > 0:15:43That lady sitting behind and all the people
0:15:43 > 0:15:46sitting behind they couldn't hear what was going on up there at all.
0:15:46 > 0:15:49I would have asked her to move.
0:15:49 > 0:15:52- Well...- I would have asked her to move.
0:15:52 > 0:15:56But hold on a wee second, people paid their money.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58They paid their money too.
0:15:58 > 0:16:00It's not the child's fault. The child had a disability.
0:16:00 > 0:16:03No, no, no it wasn't. It was the stupid mother that done that.
0:16:03 > 0:16:05- It was the stupid mother. - Are you joking?
0:16:05 > 0:16:10You can't say that. Absolutely, categorically cannot say that.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13I was so upset when she said that she was a distraction
0:16:13 > 0:16:14and it was so...
0:16:14 > 0:16:17It was heartbreaking to hear words like that being
0:16:17 > 0:16:20said in this day and age about a child with a disability.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22So I had no choice but to leave, there was no other option.
0:16:22 > 0:16:24Let us speak to the Grand Opera House.
0:16:24 > 0:16:27Aine Dolan is Opera House community and education manager.
0:16:27 > 0:16:29It doesn't sound good for you.
0:16:29 > 0:16:30All of the complaints were about
0:16:30 > 0:16:33"what is the music that is playing, can you switch it off?"
0:16:33 > 0:16:36We also had a situation where the company manager
0:16:36 > 0:16:37for the production, for the pantomime
0:16:37 > 0:16:39came around to the duty manager
0:16:39 > 0:16:42and said, "What is the music that is being played in the auditorium,
0:16:42 > 0:16:44"it's really distracting for the performers. Can you see
0:16:44 > 0:16:47"if you can get it turned off or turned down?"
0:16:47 > 0:16:48Hello, Peter.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51I just think it is an absolute disgrace with the way
0:16:51 > 0:16:52the Opera House done it.
0:16:52 > 0:16:55What happens when you're on a plane and a baby starts crying?
0:16:55 > 0:16:57Going to stick a parachute on and throw it out the door?
0:16:57 > 0:17:00I would fully support adult-only airplane flights.
0:17:00 > 0:17:01SHE LAUGHS
0:17:01 > 0:17:03- I'm serious. - Used to be a child once, you know.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06Are you seriously saying that a disabled child can't
0:17:06 > 0:17:09- go to the pantomime? - No, I'm not.
0:17:09 > 0:17:12I was one person who took disabled children,
0:17:12 > 0:17:14so I wouldn't say that at all.
0:17:14 > 0:17:18But if that child had no interest whatsoever in that pantomime,
0:17:18 > 0:17:21if that lady had any sense in her she would have got a baby-sitter
0:17:21 > 0:17:23and kept the child at home.
0:17:23 > 0:17:27They paid their money like everybody else to come and see the show.
0:17:27 > 0:17:30They didn't want to hear a child screaming or whatever was wrong.
0:17:30 > 0:17:31But they paid their money too.
0:17:31 > 0:17:35At the end of the day, it's a pantomime. What is pantomime?
0:17:35 > 0:17:37It's for children.
0:17:37 > 0:17:40It is for children. Adults go to bring their children there.
0:17:40 > 0:17:41- Aye.- They are not for adults.
0:17:41 > 0:17:44You can see both sides there, there were people being distracted
0:17:44 > 0:17:48and the wee girl still wanted the thing turned on but was there not
0:17:48 > 0:17:51another part of the building they could have moved her to?
0:17:51 > 0:17:54It is the same as the time the Catholic Church went to what
0:17:54 > 0:17:58do you call it? The mass. And they had a crying room.
0:17:58 > 0:17:59They didn't believe in a child crying.
0:17:59 > 0:18:02A child cries, tough, a child cries.
0:18:02 > 0:18:07If that was a disabled child they can't control the emotions.
0:18:07 > 0:18:10I know what it feels like because I remember
0:18:10 > 0:18:12when I had my first child
0:18:12 > 0:18:16and I was at Christmas mass and the priest stopped
0:18:16 > 0:18:19the mass in the middle and turned around
0:18:19 > 0:18:21and said "See, whoever has that child crying,
0:18:21 > 0:18:24"could they take him out?" And that was a priest.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28We are living in a society where we are all meant to be integrating
0:18:28 > 0:18:31- and we're not ready for it. - I'm not saying you're wrong.
0:18:31 > 0:18:35You have to think of the people who wanted to come to the show
0:18:35 > 0:18:36without being disturbed.
0:18:36 > 0:18:39Right. So what did these children do, and their families?
0:18:39 > 0:18:41They're not allowed to go?
0:18:41 > 0:18:44They are allowed to go but they have to be put somewhere else.
0:18:44 > 0:18:46What do you mean somewhere else? What are they, cattle?
0:18:46 > 0:18:49We'll have a listen to Bill in Bangor because he is another
0:18:49 > 0:18:51person who is supporting the Grand Opera House, Bill, aren't you?
0:18:51 > 0:18:54Yes, I am indeed. I think it is a bit ridiculous.
0:18:54 > 0:18:57The Opera House is bending over backwards.
0:18:57 > 0:18:59What does that woman want them to do?
0:18:59 > 0:19:02Does she want them to put down what people like?
0:19:02 > 0:19:04I wouldn't like to have been the manager in the place.
0:19:04 > 0:19:07No matter what he done, he done wrong.
0:19:07 > 0:19:08Shame on them people.
0:19:08 > 0:19:14If them people can't stand the noise of a toy for a disabled child
0:19:14 > 0:19:17then there's something wrong with them, so there is.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20If that was me and my child was like that, I wouldn't go in there
0:19:20 > 0:19:22- tormenting all those people. - Tormenting?
0:19:22 > 0:19:26I think it is an absolute disgrace.
0:19:26 > 0:19:30You're embarrassing, mate. You're embarrassing.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33Are you trying to say that you should be ashamed of your child
0:19:33 > 0:19:37because it has a disability? What you want to do, lock them in a room?
0:19:37 > 0:19:38Are you serious?
0:19:38 > 0:19:42You're probably a Bible thumper who goes to church every week.
0:19:42 > 0:19:45What do you say to the people who say, "Tough, get that kid
0:19:45 > 0:19:47"out of here, get the child out?"
0:19:47 > 0:19:51Hold on, Stephen. Do you want me to tell you what I would say to them?
0:19:51 > 0:19:53They need to get the fuck out.
0:19:53 > 0:19:55I'm getting fucking fined by the council now.
0:19:55 > 0:19:57See, you made me curse again.
0:20:08 > 0:20:09Now, young people out of work,
0:20:09 > 0:20:11education or training for six months will
0:20:11 > 0:20:14not have to do unpaid community work to get benefits,
0:20:14 > 0:20:16according to David Cameron.
0:20:16 > 0:20:19The Prime Minister said about 50,000 18 to 21-year-olds would be
0:20:19 > 0:20:21required to do daily work experience,
0:20:21 > 0:20:24so alongside job searching, they would be required
0:20:24 > 0:20:27to carry out 30 hours a week of mandatory community work.
0:20:27 > 0:20:31So, should unemployed young people be made to do volunteer
0:20:31 > 0:20:33work in order to claim benefits?
0:20:34 > 0:20:37They are lying in their bed all day
0:20:37 > 0:20:39and then they are out running the streets all night.
0:20:39 > 0:20:43They should be made to work and to go out to work.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45Maybe if they did it would put a bit of manners
0:20:45 > 0:20:49and a bit of brains into them. Let them see what real life is like.
0:20:49 > 0:20:51If they are going to work for their benefits,
0:20:51 > 0:20:53why don't they give them a job and get them off benefits?
0:20:53 > 0:20:56There are jobs out there but lots of people don't want to do
0:20:56 > 0:20:59the jobs that other people are prepared to do.
0:20:59 > 0:21:03If they can create work for people that is on the brew
0:21:03 > 0:21:07and not pay them, but pay them the buttons that they pay them
0:21:07 > 0:21:10on the brew, how can they not give them a job?
0:21:10 > 0:21:13That is telling them what to do with their lives.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16"I am in charge now of your life because you are on benefits."
0:21:16 > 0:21:19Whenever I was growing up I had to go out to work
0:21:19 > 0:21:22- and you had to go out to work. - But you were paid, you were paid.
0:21:22 > 0:21:25Got paid as you learned. These ones, Cameron says it.
0:21:25 > 0:21:29- These ones are to work free. - That is taking your rights away.
0:21:30 > 0:21:33"You will do what we tell you to do.
0:21:33 > 0:21:36"If you want this £50-£60 a week, we are telling you what you're
0:21:36 > 0:21:40"doing on Monday, Tuesday," or whatever it is. No!
0:21:40 > 0:21:42# Trouble my way
0:21:43 > 0:21:46# Lord, lord
0:21:46 > 0:21:49# Trouble my way. #
0:21:49 > 0:21:51At the end of the day, going out to work
0:21:51 > 0:21:54and getting your benefits, it is slave labour.
0:21:54 > 0:21:57Why should people go out and work
0:21:57 > 0:22:02- and not get paid...- Are you actually saying it's slave labour?- Yeah.
0:22:02 > 0:22:06- While everybody goes out and works? - Hold on, you interrupted me there.
0:22:06 > 0:22:09I was about to turn around and tell you that
0:22:09 > 0:22:13if they can put people out to work for their benefits why can
0:22:13 > 0:22:15they not put people out to work to get a wage,
0:22:15 > 0:22:20like every other painter or gardener or anything else like that?
0:22:20 > 0:22:22I think in a way, young people, yes, it is
0:22:22 > 0:22:26all right because it gets them up out of bed, it gets them
0:22:26 > 0:22:29a couple of hours' work and they still get their benefits.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32And what could you be doing to earn your benefits,
0:22:32 > 0:22:35sitting on your arse, watching Jeremy Kyle, no doubt.
0:22:35 > 0:22:36Oh, no, I lie in bed
0:22:36 > 0:22:39and watch Jeremy Kyle, I don't sit on my arse.
0:22:39 > 0:22:40Now just get that bit right.
0:22:40 > 0:22:42THEY LAUGH
0:22:42 > 0:22:45- Go ahead.- Let us be serious about what we're talking about here.
0:22:45 > 0:22:48It is not working for free, there are benefits being paid out as well.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51- Are they getting minimum wage? - No, but they're getting benefits.
0:22:51 > 0:22:53Why not?
0:22:53 > 0:22:55Because what they are trying to do is exploit young people...
0:22:55 > 0:22:57THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER
0:22:58 > 0:23:01Bit of manners, bit of manners.
0:23:01 > 0:23:02Let's not forget, we've come through
0:23:02 > 0:23:04the worst economic circumstances for decades.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07That's a total disgrace, they need to get out and go to work.
0:23:07 > 0:23:08But they can't get a job.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11People won't take them because they haven't got the experience.
0:23:11 > 0:23:13Nobody is giving him a chance.
0:23:13 > 0:23:15Some of them out there really do want a job,
0:23:15 > 0:23:17they would do want to work.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19Stephen, I will tell you a story.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21I used to be a warehouse manager
0:23:21 > 0:23:24and they used to send young lads to me
0:23:24 > 0:23:29from the dole office to let them see what work was like in a warehouse.
0:23:29 > 0:23:32And you had to stand over them with a whip,
0:23:32 > 0:23:34so you would, to get them to work.
0:23:34 > 0:23:36Are we really saying we want to write off
0:23:36 > 0:23:39an 18-to-21-year-old after six months out of work
0:23:39 > 0:23:42and say, "See you at the Job Centre once a week?"
0:23:42 > 0:23:44Are you really saying you want to exploit them for cheap labour?
0:23:44 > 0:23:47I do not think it is exploitation in the slightest.
0:23:47 > 0:23:50You don't pay them and you don't teach these 18-to-21-year-olds.
0:23:50 > 0:23:52If you do a fair day's work, you get a fair days' pay.
0:23:52 > 0:23:57The rich Tories sends the young, vulnerable kids out to pick up
0:23:57 > 0:24:01litter and if they don't do it, you take their means to feed
0:24:01 > 0:24:03themselves away from them.
0:24:03 > 0:24:04PEOPLE YELL
0:24:05 > 0:24:06WHISTLE BLOWS
0:24:10 > 0:24:13It is time the authorities got them out and got them
0:24:13 > 0:24:14working for their benefits.
0:24:14 > 0:24:18If they don't work for their benefits, then stop the benefits.
0:24:18 > 0:24:21Hard as it might be, but that's the way America works.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24If you don't work, then your jaws don't work.
0:24:24 > 0:24:27If you work for your benefits then that means...
0:24:27 > 0:24:31- You should work for a decent wage. - What are they going to do?
0:24:31 > 0:24:33You should work for a wage, not benefits.
0:24:33 > 0:24:35What is it you're going to do, though?
0:24:35 > 0:24:37What is the work you are going to do?
0:24:37 > 0:24:40I think the detail has to be further defined
0:24:40 > 0:24:43and I would put my hands up and say that that hasn't been done yet.
0:24:43 > 0:24:44So it is just a sound bite?
0:24:44 > 0:24:46It hasn't been thought through it all then?
0:24:46 > 0:24:49- Sorry, Stephen?- You don't even know what type of work it is.
0:24:49 > 0:24:51Well, when I look around my city of Leeds there is
0:24:51 > 0:24:54a lot of litter picking work to be done, general upkeep of the city.
0:24:54 > 0:24:57We are all saying that it is taking somebody else's job,
0:24:57 > 0:24:58but it is not being done now.
0:24:58 > 0:25:01There is plenty of work to be done on our streets,
0:25:01 > 0:25:03cleaning parks and cleaning walls.
0:25:03 > 0:25:06They could be helping pensioners cut their grass,
0:25:06 > 0:25:08paint their railings for them and their hedges.
0:25:08 > 0:25:11It gets them used to getting up,
0:25:11 > 0:25:14getting out to work instead of sitting on their holes all day.
0:25:14 > 0:25:16Why just young people?
0:25:16 > 0:25:19Well, could you picture me cutting a fucking garden?
0:25:19 > 0:25:22I wouldn't know one end of the lawnmower from the other.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24You would have to order an ambulance
0:25:24 > 0:25:29- and an oxygen mask to revive me from it.- What would you have to learn?
0:25:29 > 0:25:33I've done my time, so I have, working.
0:25:33 > 0:25:35You are going to get people that will come in their dozens
0:25:35 > 0:25:37and employ them, free employment.
0:25:37 > 0:25:40And then other people who are maybe more suitable for the job,
0:25:40 > 0:25:43not going to take them because they're going to have to pay them.
0:25:43 > 0:25:46If you are not doing that, what are you going to be doing instead?
0:25:46 > 0:25:48You can't sit and rewrite your CV 20 times.
0:25:48 > 0:25:51Keep going to the dole office.
0:25:51 > 0:25:54People down here in the Shankill wouldn't know what a CV is.
0:25:54 > 0:25:57Sitting there thinking about it, how many times can you paint
0:25:57 > 0:25:59the fence, how may times can you cut the garden?
0:25:59 > 0:26:01You can only cut a garden so much.
0:26:01 > 0:26:02Three or four times a year.
0:26:02 > 0:26:07- And you can only paint the fence so many times.- Once a year.- If that.
0:26:07 > 0:26:10The whole point about community service is teaching people
0:26:10 > 0:26:12a structure. Getting up in the morning and
0:26:12 > 0:26:14getting out and having to work
0:26:14 > 0:26:16and you don't get money handed to you.
0:26:16 > 0:26:18What about you out cutting it and losing a couple of pounds?
0:26:18 > 0:26:20Let us not get away from what the alternative is.
0:26:20 > 0:26:23The alternative is that people just sit at home.
0:26:23 > 0:26:26Once they've done their bit at the Job Centre, they go and sit at home.
0:26:26 > 0:26:27That's fair enough.
0:26:27 > 0:26:30Is it not better a youngster being out there rather than sitting
0:26:30 > 0:26:32- and watching Jeremy Kyle? - It is not that they are lazy.
0:26:32 > 0:26:34It is the culture that they have gotten into.
0:26:34 > 0:26:38They lie in bed in the morning, they didn't get up until 10 or 10:30.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41And when you get into that culture, it's hard to get back
0:26:41 > 0:26:42out of it again.
0:26:42 > 0:26:45If the government took less wages themselves,
0:26:45 > 0:26:48there would be loads of money.
0:26:48 > 0:26:51Instead of getting money for suits that they have to sit on TV
0:26:51 > 0:26:56and they have to earn 250 a day if they sit in Parliament and all.
0:26:56 > 0:26:58If the government took a cut...
0:26:58 > 0:27:02Cough!
0:27:02 > 0:27:03My tooth near fell out.
0:27:03 > 0:27:04THEY LAUGH
0:27:07 > 0:27:12If the government took a cut, there would be more money in this.
0:27:16 > 0:27:18Next time on Radio Face...
0:27:18 > 0:27:20Oh, Jesus, I think I'm gay.
0:27:20 > 0:27:22What? What?
0:27:22 > 0:27:24Sodomy is sin!
0:27:24 > 0:27:26You're not born gay.
0:27:26 > 0:27:27Barrymore wasn't born gay.
0:27:27 > 0:27:29The Welsh rugby player wasn't born gay.
0:27:29 > 0:27:33We are not a normal, everyday society.
0:27:33 > 0:27:34- You think not?- We're not.
0:27:34 > 0:27:36You still want a solution here.
0:27:36 > 0:27:39A flag will not hurt you either, unless it is on the end
0:27:39 > 0:27:42of a pole and someone hits you over the head with it.