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0:00:11 > 0:00:12Norman.
0:00:13 > 0:00:14Anne-Marie.
0:00:15 > 0:00:17Marie.
0:00:18 > 0:00:19Bertie.
0:00:21 > 0:00:22Carmel.
0:00:25 > 0:00:27Mervyn and Heidi.
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0:00:50 > 0:00:54Now, we've been contacted by a caller, Gavin, who - here we go,
0:00:54 > 0:00:56it's this time of the year again -
0:00:56 > 0:00:58has a concern over flags in Glengormley.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01Stephen, I just want to point out a few things
0:01:01 > 0:01:03about stirring up tensions in Glengormley.
0:01:03 > 0:01:06They've put Union Jacks the whole length of the Antrim line
0:01:06 > 0:01:08there up beside KFC in Glengormley.
0:01:08 > 0:01:10It's the first time it's happened in 18 years.
0:01:10 > 0:01:12Normally they just keep it to the centre of Glengormley,
0:01:12 > 0:01:16but this year they seem to be trying to stir up tensions, you know?
0:01:16 > 0:01:18And does a flag really intimidate you?
0:01:18 > 0:01:19Well, it does.
0:01:19 > 0:01:22You go into your streets, you'll see a flag
0:01:22 > 0:01:26nearly on every post. Every house is flying the flags.
0:01:26 > 0:01:27You go into our estates
0:01:27 > 0:01:28and you'll see a flag here and there.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31I've known people within the Unionist community
0:01:31 > 0:01:32who have fought and died for that flag.
0:01:32 > 0:01:34People died for your flag.
0:01:34 > 0:01:36People died for our flag. It's the same on both sides.
0:01:36 > 0:01:39But we don't shove the flag in people's faces.
0:01:39 > 0:01:41But a flag'll not hurt you either, unless it's on the end of a pole
0:01:41 > 0:01:43and somebody hits you over the head with it,
0:01:43 > 0:01:46but it's important in the cultural aspect of my community.
0:01:46 > 0:01:48You're saying a flag won't hurt you,
0:01:48 > 0:01:53but yet when it came to Christmas there two years ago,
0:01:53 > 0:01:58yous were down outside the City Hall stopping people having a...
0:01:58 > 0:01:59A Christmas.
0:01:59 > 0:02:03I did not bring my child down into the atmosphere. Yes, cos we were worried.
0:02:03 > 0:02:04Because of what was going on.
0:02:04 > 0:02:07Come out and face us, you bastards!
0:02:07 > 0:02:08And on top of that there,
0:02:08 > 0:02:12it happened the same last year and my child was up my backside.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15No surrender!
0:02:19 > 0:02:20Stephen...
0:02:21 > 0:02:25People are entitled to their culture,
0:02:25 > 0:02:30but when you put flags on every flag post along the road,
0:02:30 > 0:02:32it is intimidating.
0:02:32 > 0:02:36What you're telling the people is, "This is a loyalist area."
0:02:36 > 0:02:39You know what my solution to the flag issue at the City Hall is?
0:02:39 > 0:02:42My solution to the flag issue at the City Hall - put the Union
0:02:42 > 0:02:47flag back up, fly international flags right round the City Hall.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50It's a big building and it'll keep everybody happy.
0:02:50 > 0:02:53But guess what? Guess what? They won't do it.
0:02:53 > 0:02:57They wouldn't agree to have the Tricolour on it.
0:02:57 > 0:02:59The only flag they want up is the British flag.
0:02:59 > 0:03:04No, but, see, hear me out. So, it's all down to the flag.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08Belfast is a lovely city and they'll fly our flag. Solution. End of.
0:03:08 > 0:03:12Yous don't want a solution here! Yous don't want it! No, I think...
0:03:12 > 0:03:15I think the politicians are just making more money out of it,
0:03:15 > 0:03:18so they're just going to keep it going on and on and on.
0:03:18 > 0:03:22Do you think that I would be right to ask the Republic of Ireland
0:03:22 > 0:03:25to fly the Union Jack above their state buildings?
0:03:25 > 0:03:28Do you think that that would be right? Yes. No, it's not right.
0:03:29 > 0:03:33BERTIE: I don't know nothing about it, not being able to see them, but I just hear all about them
0:03:33 > 0:03:35on the radio there about paramilitary flags
0:03:35 > 0:03:40and seemingly there's been ones that have jumped on the bandwagon over the years,
0:03:40 > 0:03:44they've put other flags up, even of Israel and other countries
0:03:44 > 0:03:47and I don't know what's the meaning of it.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50It is a working-class issue.
0:03:50 > 0:03:54It is a ghetto issue. To put flags up is what we do.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56We don't care if... Who's "we"?
0:03:56 > 0:03:58The people who live in the area.
0:03:58 > 0:04:00Are you calling yourself working class, Mervyn?
0:04:00 > 0:04:02Yes, I'm born and bred working class.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04You're not working class, though. Me now? Yeah. Probably not.
0:04:04 > 0:04:06No, you're definitely not working class.
0:04:06 > 0:04:08NOLAN: You've contacted the police?
0:04:08 > 0:04:11Yes. The PSNI say they want nothing to do with it,
0:04:11 > 0:04:15because there was no breach of the peace, yet if we go out to
0:04:15 > 0:04:19take the flags down, it could create a breach of the peace.
0:04:19 > 0:04:22The police have told you putting it up isn't a breach of the peace
0:04:22 > 0:04:23but taking them down is?
0:04:23 > 0:04:25How does that work? You tell me.
0:04:25 > 0:04:30If the police tried to remove these flags, then the paramilitaries
0:04:30 > 0:04:34will have their boot boys out on the street causing riots.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38Well, you know what law and order is like in the country, it's...
0:04:38 > 0:04:41In some places it's non-existent
0:04:41 > 0:04:44and people have just got to the stage where they do what they like
0:04:44 > 0:04:46and the police are sandwiched in the middle.
0:04:46 > 0:04:48If they don't take them down, it's a fault
0:04:48 > 0:04:51and if they do take them down, it's still a fault
0:04:51 > 0:04:54and to do anything about it, there would need to be a political decision.
0:04:54 > 0:04:56The politicians in Stormont
0:04:56 > 0:04:59are showing a stinking example to both sides of the community.
0:04:59 > 0:05:01They're dividing us. Yeah.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04Well, they want to keep it all or they wouldn't have their wages.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07Put it this way, their pockets are lined.
0:05:07 > 0:05:08Aye. They don't need to worry about us.
0:05:08 > 0:05:11How is the country ever going to move on?
0:05:11 > 0:05:13It just can't move on.
0:05:13 > 0:05:15It's stuck in a time warp, so it is,
0:05:15 > 0:05:19and it's going backwards instead of going forwards.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21Stay on the line, I'll put you through to Stephen.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23David in Belfast. Morning, David.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26He's phoning up to say he wants Union Jacks took down.
0:05:26 > 0:05:29Does he phone up when there's Tricolours up to say,
0:05:29 > 0:05:32"Oh, that'll intimidate Protestants?"
0:05:32 > 0:05:36MARIE: Every religion and every culture should be represented,
0:05:36 > 0:05:38not just the Union flag.
0:05:38 > 0:05:41So, then we should have the Polish flag...? Yes!
0:05:41 > 0:05:45The West Indies flag and...? Yes! And then where do you stop?
0:05:45 > 0:05:48It'll be like a lamppost on the Newtownards Road,
0:05:48 > 0:05:50it'll be bending over with flags on them.
0:05:50 > 0:05:52Well, put it this way, City Hall's a big fucking place.
0:05:52 > 0:05:54This is where, you know, I can't...
0:05:54 > 0:05:59You can't take it that you'd kill yourself for a Tricolour. I can't get my head around...
0:05:59 > 0:06:03I live in a country that is designated by the United Nations
0:06:03 > 0:06:04as part of the United Kingdom
0:06:04 > 0:06:08and I can't understand how someone would want to fly a flag,
0:06:08 > 0:06:10and like it or not, of a foreign country,
0:06:10 > 0:06:12because it is a foreign country.
0:06:12 > 0:06:15Well, we're not! It has a completely different...
0:06:15 > 0:06:18What would you do in the morning if a united Ireland came?
0:06:18 > 0:06:21I would accept it, because I have a choice... Would you still live here or would you fly over
0:06:21 > 0:06:23to England and join the English?
0:06:23 > 0:06:24I would have a choice.
0:06:24 > 0:06:27My choice then would be to live here, go to live in Scotland
0:06:27 > 0:06:30or England or Wales and I still want to be part of...
0:06:30 > 0:06:32If a united Ireland was given in the morning,
0:06:32 > 0:06:33at least I would have that opportunity.
0:06:33 > 0:06:38You will never solve the flag issue here, not in a thousand years.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42I'll be long gone and when I'm buried it will still be going on!
0:06:52 > 0:06:55NOLAN: It's 9am. It's the Nolan Show on BBC Radio Ulster.
0:06:55 > 0:06:58And of course the role of the programme is to give you at home
0:06:58 > 0:07:00the chance to have your say.
0:07:00 > 0:07:02Pick up the phone.
0:07:02 > 0:07:03Let's see who's on line one.
0:07:03 > 0:07:04Oh, it's not me, now,
0:07:04 > 0:07:07that's our senior citizen celebrity sheep farmer.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10Well, you're going to have to tell me what you mean by that.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12I feel so sorry for these children.
0:07:12 > 0:07:14You don't even know what's going on round you!
0:07:14 > 0:07:18I get the sneaking feeling that you maybe don't like me.
0:07:18 > 0:07:19CALLER LAUGHS
0:07:20 > 0:07:24Leave Sammy Wilson alone and don't comment on his red face.
0:07:24 > 0:07:26If you look at yourself, you have enough to comment on.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32Do you remember that caller, Ciaran,
0:07:32 > 0:07:36who was on air a couple of weeks ago doing an impression of...er...
0:07:36 > 0:07:39the Health Minister, Simon Hamilton?
0:07:39 > 0:07:42He sits in the studio and he goes... "Hey..." HE STUTTERS
0:07:43 > 0:07:46Well, he's wanting on this morning again,
0:07:46 > 0:07:50this time to do an impression of the DUP's Gregory Campbell.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52You want to hear Gregory? Yes.
0:07:53 > 0:07:54NORTH WEST ACCENT: Oh!
0:07:54 > 0:07:57Gregory Campbell here from Londonderry!
0:07:57 > 0:07:59Oh...I meant Derry.
0:08:00 > 0:08:04Ah, it's good to get on the radio, Stephen, this morning.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09And...I love...
0:08:09 > 0:08:11my Peter, my Peter, I love my Peter.
0:08:11 > 0:08:14You leave Gregory alone. Ah, no.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16I'd love to put my boot in his arse.
0:08:16 > 0:08:22Aye. Why? Up his arse. I've known Gregory for over 40 years.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25How do you know him? I used to deliver milk to their house.
0:08:25 > 0:08:30You used to deliver milk to Gregory Campbell's house? Aye.
0:08:30 > 0:08:32Did he ever give you a tip?
0:08:32 > 0:08:34The only tip he ever gave me was to join the Orange Order.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37Well, unfortunately these things do happen...
0:08:37 > 0:08:38Gregory'll be upset.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40Ah, well.
0:08:40 > 0:08:41Oh, God...
0:08:41 > 0:08:44I wouldn't be upset, you know... Ah, no.
0:08:44 > 0:08:47And for you, Stephen, to question me on all them Irish things,
0:08:47 > 0:08:49you're bringing up the wrong topic.
0:08:51 > 0:08:53With your money and all...
0:08:53 > 0:08:54What about your money?
0:08:54 > 0:08:58Gregory Campbell doesn't give me a hard time about my salary, does he?
0:08:58 > 0:09:00Ah, you see, Stephen.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Wait till I tell you something, mate.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05You're worth every penny
0:09:05 > 0:09:07and don't you let anybody ever tell you any different.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10Do you think? Let's put it this way.
0:09:10 > 0:09:13I am not licking your arse for anything.
0:09:13 > 0:09:16I'm going to try and work out, whose voice is it that you remind me of?
0:09:16 > 0:09:18Who is it? Who's that?
0:09:18 > 0:09:21I'll tell you who you remind me of, Ciaran. Aye, go ahead.
0:09:21 > 0:09:24Now, don't be taking this the wrong way, sure you won't?
0:09:24 > 0:09:29Not at all. Go ahead, man, I can assure you I will not be insulted.
0:09:29 > 0:09:32You remind me of Zippy from Rainbow. CIARAN LAUGHS
0:09:32 > 0:09:35Thank you very much, Stephen, my friend!
0:09:35 > 0:09:38Did you ever watch Zippy on Rainbow?
0:09:38 > 0:09:40Vinnie, come in here.
0:09:40 > 0:09:42# Rainbow climbing high... #
0:09:42 > 0:09:44Ciaran, just tell him to get lost.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47No, no, just don't butt in there a wee minute.
0:09:47 > 0:09:48Is that your real voice?
0:09:48 > 0:09:50Well, what other way do you want me to speak?
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0:10:04 > 0:10:05RADIO STATIC
0:10:07 > 0:10:09MUSIC BOX PLAYS
0:10:09 > 0:10:12Bernie. Yes, Curt. what are you doing with those cookies in bed?
0:10:12 > 0:10:14Hmm? Well, I was just hungry, Curt,
0:10:14 > 0:10:17so I thought I'd have a few cookies before I went to sleep.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19On our programme this morning,
0:10:19 > 0:10:21a Newtownabbey-based Christian bakery is facing legal action
0:10:21 > 0:10:25from the Equality Commission and this is because they are
0:10:25 > 0:10:28refusing to bake a cake with Bert and Ernie arm-in-arm
0:10:28 > 0:10:32and the caption "Support Gay Marriage."
0:10:32 > 0:10:35The bakery believe producing the cake would amount to endorsing
0:10:35 > 0:10:38the campaign for gay marriage and go against their religious convictions.
0:10:39 > 0:10:45Well, let me say, if I went to a Muslim bakery and asked them
0:10:45 > 0:10:49to bake me a cake and put the image of a pig's head on the top of it,
0:10:49 > 0:10:52do you think they would bake it? Of course they wouldn't.
0:10:52 > 0:10:57And the same if you went to a Catholic bakery and I asked them
0:10:57 > 0:11:00to put on it, "The Pope's the antichrist - send him to hell."
0:11:00 > 0:11:01They wouldn't do it.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04I don't know whether they're called teacakes...
0:11:05 > 0:11:07..cupcakes...
0:11:07 > 0:11:10fairy cakes or what kind of cakes they are.
0:11:10 > 0:11:13They lost the business. Sure, what about these cakes they do
0:11:13 > 0:11:15for boobs and all? Yeah, that's true.
0:11:15 > 0:11:19So, what's the difference of doing a booby cake and an ordinary cake?
0:11:19 > 0:11:23And they had a cake the other week on Facebook with
0:11:23 > 0:11:25a woman producing a baby.
0:11:25 > 0:11:27Ugh!
0:11:27 > 0:11:29Imagine eating that cake. Yuck.
0:11:29 > 0:11:31CALLER: The law is really clear, Stephen.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34You can't pick and choose what sides of the law applies to you.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39If you're a company that is trading out there in the marketplace,
0:11:39 > 0:11:42someone comes to you, you can't pick and choose whether or not
0:11:42 > 0:11:44to fulfil that order based on their sexual orientation.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47Well, if the bakery wouldn't sell the gay cake,
0:11:47 > 0:11:52well I would imagine if they'd sold it and it was a nice cake...
0:11:52 > 0:11:54They would have got more business. They would have got more business.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57Cos more people would have went to them, so as Marie says,
0:11:57 > 0:11:59they lost out in it.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01MERVYN: It was going against their principles to say,
0:12:01 > 0:12:03"We don't want to bake a cake for these people..."
0:12:03 > 0:12:05"These people?" "..because we don't like it."
0:12:05 > 0:12:07They don't like what? That is their choice!
0:12:07 > 0:12:09They don't like what?
0:12:09 > 0:12:11I mean, at the end of the day, Heidi,
0:12:11 > 0:12:12Ashers are not against gay people.
0:12:12 > 0:12:17If they had asked for an ordinary, plain cake, to be produced
0:12:17 > 0:12:19and sold to them, they would have done it.
0:12:19 > 0:12:21It was the very fact of what they wanted,
0:12:21 > 0:12:24the type of cake they wanted - that's what the objection was.
0:12:24 > 0:12:26And do you know why they would have done it?
0:12:26 > 0:12:28Because you can't tell a gay person from a straight person
0:12:28 > 0:12:32when they're walking in to a blooming bun shop buying buns! I can.
0:12:32 > 0:12:33You can?
0:12:34 > 0:12:38Who has the right to tell somebody... Of who they can love.
0:12:38 > 0:12:40Of who they can love and who they can't love?
0:12:40 > 0:12:44I remember when I was first thinking about getting married, I went...
0:12:44 > 0:12:47You married a gay boy?
0:12:47 > 0:12:48THEY LAUGH
0:12:48 > 0:12:52I went to my priest and he wasn't going to marry me
0:12:52 > 0:12:54when he found out I was adopted,
0:12:54 > 0:13:01because I couldn't prove that I wasn't related in any way to Joe
0:13:01 > 0:13:05so at the end of the day, that's the way they get on.
0:13:05 > 0:13:07But, see where gay marriages are concerned,
0:13:07 > 0:13:10at the end of the day... It's up to themselves.
0:13:10 > 0:13:14..they have the equal right, just as us, to...
0:13:14 > 0:13:16What do you call it? To get married.
0:13:16 > 0:13:19And it's no fun being gay either, I wouldn't imagine.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21BERTIE: I know ones living in streets with them
0:13:21 > 0:13:24and they say they're quiet people, they keep themselves to themselves.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28CARNIVAL MUSIC
0:13:28 > 0:13:30HORNS BLARE
0:13:36 > 0:13:38NOLAN: So, you wouldn't be offended
0:13:38 > 0:13:40if you saw two gay men kissing in the street?
0:13:40 > 0:13:44Well, it would be a miracle if I could see them, Stephen,
0:13:44 > 0:13:47but if I was able to see, no, I'd walk on by them
0:13:47 > 0:13:49as long as they weren't kissing me! HE LAUGHS
0:13:50 > 0:13:52Morning, Evelyn.
0:13:52 > 0:13:53Morning, Stephen.
0:13:53 > 0:13:54It's just so refreshing.
0:13:54 > 0:13:58I got up this morning and this is a real good news story for once.
0:13:58 > 0:14:01To have Christians standing up for their beliefs.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03CROWD CHANT: Sodomy is sin!
0:14:03 > 0:14:06What would make being gay a bigger sin than a girl who
0:14:06 > 0:14:08has sex outside of marriage?
0:14:09 > 0:14:12I know. Or somebody who gets a divorce?
0:14:12 > 0:14:16Because what God put together, let no man pull asunder. That's right.
0:14:16 > 0:14:21NORMAN: The Bible clearly states that it's an abomination before God.
0:14:21 > 0:14:24It's lust and sin that makes people...
0:14:25 > 0:14:27..say they're gay. You're not born gay.
0:14:27 > 0:14:29Barrymore wasn't born gay.
0:14:29 > 0:14:33You just don't grow up and go, "Oh, Jesus, I think I'm gay!"
0:14:33 > 0:14:35They're born. It's in them.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38If God was supposed to be creator of man,
0:14:38 > 0:14:40it was God that created somebody that was gay.
0:14:40 > 0:14:43I'm not gay, you know! HE LAUGHS
0:14:43 > 0:14:48Never was, but if they want to get married in that way, let them be.
0:14:48 > 0:14:51NOLAN: You were born straight, but people can't be born gay?
0:14:51 > 0:14:57No, because they did a survey in America with over a thousand people
0:14:57 > 0:15:01and the professor that done it says he never found one gay gene in
0:15:01 > 0:15:06any of them and he's come to the conclusion that no-one is born gay.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09It is my belief... I absolutely believe...
0:15:09 > 0:15:11No. It is my belief... Ashers were right.
0:15:11 > 0:15:14..that Christians are meant to be nice to everyone. They're not.
0:15:14 > 0:15:19Daniel McArthur is the general manager of Ashers Baking Company.
0:15:19 > 0:15:23We took this order, received it up to our head office
0:15:23 > 0:15:27and we thought that this order was at odds with our beliefs.
0:15:27 > 0:15:29I'd like the outcome of this to be
0:15:29 > 0:15:33that any Christians running a business could be allowed
0:15:33 > 0:15:36to follow their Christian beliefs
0:15:36 > 0:15:40and principles in the day-to-day running of their business
0:15:40 > 0:15:43and that they are allowed to make decisions based on that.
0:15:43 > 0:15:46What sort of a society is that that we're living in?
0:15:46 > 0:15:48"Let them eat cake but only if they're straight"?
0:15:48 > 0:15:51I would think, in my own personal opinion of Jesus,
0:15:51 > 0:15:55first point, I think he'd be a great socialist,
0:15:55 > 0:15:57and the second point, he loves us all.
0:15:57 > 0:15:59That's the thing, he says, "Love thy neighbour" but sure,
0:15:59 > 0:16:01what if your neighbour's a man?
0:16:01 > 0:16:03Well, it says, "Love your neighbour as yourself."
0:16:07 > 0:16:13If I was running a guesthouse and two gay men came to my house
0:16:13 > 0:16:16and asked for a room for the night, I would say,
0:16:16 > 0:16:19"Certainly you can have a room, but yous'll sleep in separate rooms."
0:16:19 > 0:16:22So you actually care about their sex life, do you?
0:16:24 > 0:16:27I wouldn't have them committing a sin under my roof.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32CUCKOO CLOCK STRIKES
0:16:32 > 0:16:35I'm a great believer in live and let live.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37Live and let live, do you know?
0:16:37 > 0:16:40This is the way I think. When you're born onto Planet Earth,
0:16:40 > 0:16:44you should have a basic human right to move freely across Planet Earth.
0:16:44 > 0:16:46Nobody holds the right to judge us of our colour,
0:16:46 > 0:16:48creed or religion, et cetera.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51That's right. Regardless who you are or what you are. Yes, that's right.
0:16:51 > 0:16:54What your sexuality is or what your sexuality is not.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57I believe Jesus loves us all. That's me own opinion.
0:17:05 > 0:17:07RADIO STATIC
0:17:08 > 0:17:09Look at your hair -
0:17:09 > 0:17:12you'd think you were trailed through a hedge backwards.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14RADIO: 'I am a very stylish girl.'
0:17:14 > 0:17:17Beauty pageants - are they wrong? Belfast is set to play host
0:17:17 > 0:17:20to the Northern Ireland's Cutest Kids pageant.
0:17:20 > 0:17:23This week hordes of parents are lining their kids up
0:17:23 > 0:17:26to enter the competition with kids as young as four.
0:17:26 > 0:17:29It's come under fire from those who disagree with
0:17:29 > 0:17:31these type of pageants, but what do you think?
0:17:31 > 0:17:34Is it wrong to judge children in this context
0:17:34 > 0:17:36or can they be a good thing?
0:17:36 > 0:17:38Good morning. Go ahead. Morning, Stephen.
0:17:38 > 0:17:41Yeah, I just don't like these things. I think they're really sad.
0:17:41 > 0:17:44I think it's awful to be setting kids to be, setting kids up,
0:17:44 > 0:17:47really, to be... You know we weren't in beauty pageants.
0:17:47 > 0:17:49We got the ugly stick.
0:17:49 > 0:17:54How dare you! I got bonny baby and everything in Mossley.
0:17:54 > 0:17:55SHE SNORTS
0:17:55 > 0:17:56So I did.
0:17:56 > 0:17:59What do they win? They win cash.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01I won one.
0:18:01 > 0:18:03You did not. I was three.
0:18:03 > 0:18:07Did you wear make-up and have a wee tutu? I wore everything.
0:18:07 > 0:18:10That's where I wore the miniskirt and I was absolutely gorgeous.
0:18:10 > 0:18:14No, but I think it's disgraceful. Out of 650 competitors, I won.
0:18:14 > 0:18:17MUSIC: Mr Lover Man by Shabba Ranks
0:18:17 > 0:18:19HE SNORES
0:18:21 > 0:18:24Maybe Nolan was a bonny baby in his days.
0:18:24 > 0:18:26Anne-Marie... Well... Come on!
0:18:31 > 0:18:33Do you think Nolan, looking at Nolan
0:18:33 > 0:18:36and what he's like on them shows... Ach, he's a wee cutie face.
0:18:36 > 0:18:39Aye, he's a cutie face and wee dimples, his wee dimples. Aye.
0:18:39 > 0:18:43But you look at him on Nolan Show on a Wednesday night.
0:18:43 > 0:18:46Do you think... It's only a mother could love. Well, that is true.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48It is only a mother can love him.
0:18:48 > 0:18:50Mary is on the line. She wants to have a chat with you.
0:18:50 > 0:18:51Good morning, Mary.
0:18:51 > 0:18:55Why are we playing this music? We'll find out now. Mary? Yes?
0:18:55 > 0:18:56I'm Mary from Newry.
0:18:56 > 0:18:58And I'm not a young woman.
0:18:58 > 0:19:01I have no family. I'm on my own and just my dog, Sparky.
0:19:01 > 0:19:06Stephen, I've never heard anybody - and I'm surprised I haven't,
0:19:06 > 0:19:07but I hope to do from now on -
0:19:07 > 0:19:11ringing in to say your programme is fantastic. Not just that,
0:19:11 > 0:19:14you are a lovely, lovely, lovely-looking fella.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16Mary, do you wear glasses? Yes.
0:19:16 > 0:19:18Well... Only for reading.
0:19:18 > 0:19:21She might need to check her prescription.
0:19:21 > 0:19:22No, wait a minute, only for reading.
0:19:22 > 0:19:25He has a wee bit of cuteness about him. I don't think he's ugly.
0:19:25 > 0:19:28Nobody is really ugly. I don't think he's ugly.
0:19:28 > 0:19:30Certain clothes that he wears that he's all right looking in.
0:19:30 > 0:19:32He doesn't suit that white shirt he had on today.
0:19:32 > 0:19:34He did, actually. Did he? I thought he did.
0:19:34 > 0:19:37I'd rather have him in his other shirt. No, I like the jeans.
0:19:37 > 0:19:41Jeans were all right. I... Some of my friends think he's gorgeous.
0:19:50 > 0:19:53How do you feel about swearing in parks? Oh, fuck!
0:19:56 > 0:19:58Waterford Council have caused a stir
0:19:58 > 0:20:02after they decided to introduce a ban on the use of obscene
0:20:02 > 0:20:05or profane language from all parks in the county.
0:20:05 > 0:20:10If you're caught, you risk a 900 quid fine and being kicked out.
0:20:12 > 0:20:14Would you welcome such a rule here?
0:20:14 > 0:20:16Well, guess what - you don't need to welcome it
0:20:16 > 0:20:18because we already have it.
0:20:18 > 0:20:22Belfast City Council have told this programme it is an offence to use
0:20:22 > 0:20:26indecent or obscene language likely to cause annoyance to other persons.
0:20:26 > 0:20:30Is this a good idea to promote a positive, family-friendly atmosphere
0:20:30 > 0:20:34or the nanny state sticking its nose where it shouldn't be?
0:20:34 > 0:20:37Well, here, Stephen, if you were in the park
0:20:37 > 0:20:41and somebody came up and said to you, "You're only after cursing",
0:20:41 > 0:20:43are they supposed to film you
0:20:43 > 0:20:47and tape you actually saying the bad words?
0:20:47 > 0:20:50You could just turn round and say, "Well, prove it."
0:20:50 > 0:20:54If you're in the park on your own, not unless you've got Tourette's,
0:20:54 > 0:20:57who are you going to swear to? Yeah.
0:20:57 > 0:21:00Stephen, welcome to the nanny state.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03People swearing in parks, of course it's wrong
0:21:03 > 0:21:05because there's children playing in parks,
0:21:05 > 0:21:09but to impose a fine on someone,
0:21:09 > 0:21:14it will not work for the simple reason - who's going to impose it
0:21:14 > 0:21:16and who's going to catch the people?
0:21:16 > 0:21:19I think it's a stupid idea for a start.
0:21:19 > 0:21:21Swearing, it's going on day and daily.
0:21:21 > 0:21:25I see it in my own street here, wee ones, they're hardly able to walk,
0:21:25 > 0:21:29they're coming out with the F word and all these other words,
0:21:29 > 0:21:32and obviously they must be hearing it in the house.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34Would you not just tone down your language?
0:21:34 > 0:21:37Well, I wouldn't really swear in the park.
0:21:37 > 0:21:40What's there to swear in the park at,
0:21:40 > 0:21:43not unless you rolled in dog shit?
0:21:43 > 0:21:44Or walked in it.
0:21:44 > 0:21:45Are you going to go,
0:21:45 > 0:21:49"Look at that bastarding tree, the leaves have fell off it again"?
0:21:49 > 0:21:51You'd hardly say that.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56Bastarding leaves falling off them bastarding trees!
0:22:01 > 0:22:04You two swear every two minutes about everything.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07Yeah, but we don't say it out. But that's talking to fucking you, that's why.
0:22:07 > 0:22:09Aye, you bring the worst out in us.
0:22:09 > 0:22:10Wait till I tell you something.
0:22:10 > 0:22:14See the way the country is going now, you'll not be allowed to
0:22:14 > 0:22:18go out and bless yourself and that's the state of the place now.
0:22:18 > 0:22:20You're not allowed to do this,
0:22:20 > 0:22:22you're not allowed to do that,
0:22:22 > 0:22:24you're not allowed to do the other thing. Fining you everything.
0:22:24 > 0:22:28Listen to you! You've got the worst mouth. You've the mouth of a sewer.
0:22:28 > 0:22:31You couldn't bring you nowhere. Aye, and I'll tell you something,
0:22:31 > 0:22:36they'll slap a fine on me, I'll do time for it before I'll pay it.
0:22:36 > 0:22:39Oh, good. I'll visit you. They'll slap a fine on me.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42The former mayor, Jim Rodgers, with us this morning.
0:22:42 > 0:22:44So this is a rule already, Jim?
0:22:44 > 0:22:46Not enforced, no doubt. Good morning, Stephen.
0:22:46 > 0:22:48Have you got fags? I've rollies here.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51Oh, I'll have a rollie, you take a fag.
0:22:51 > 0:22:54For many, many years, council got a lot of complaints
0:22:54 > 0:22:57about foul and abusive language,
0:22:57 > 0:23:00especially with young people running around,
0:23:00 > 0:23:02and that's why it was introduced.
0:23:02 > 0:23:05It's bad parenting and that's what needs to be addressed
0:23:05 > 0:23:07instead of slapping a fine on someone,
0:23:07 > 0:23:11but if you go into the supermarkets and shopping centres,
0:23:11 > 0:23:15you'll hear all the swearing that you want from women with children
0:23:15 > 0:23:19in prams, and that's more disgusting than what it is in the parks.
0:23:22 > 0:23:24I've seen my wee ones looking at you
0:23:24 > 0:23:25when you've come out with a mouthful.
0:23:25 > 0:23:29Well, sure... And they've asked me, what do you mean?
0:23:29 > 0:23:32Well, you... I just says, she doesn't be well sometimes,
0:23:32 > 0:23:34she doesn't know what she's saying!
0:23:34 > 0:23:37Wait till I tell you something. You send the youngsters to me
0:23:37 > 0:23:39and I'll tell them exactly what I'm saying.
0:23:39 > 0:23:41Parents don't swear at their kids in supermarkets.
0:23:41 > 0:23:43Of course they do, Stephen.
0:23:43 > 0:23:45I've heard it, so I have,
0:23:45 > 0:23:49and what you say, the kid will pick up and the kid will say it,
0:23:49 > 0:23:51and I've heard kids in the street,
0:23:51 > 0:23:54if you go out and tell kids to clear off,
0:23:54 > 0:23:58they'll come out with the F word and call you all the names of the day.
0:23:58 > 0:24:02Bad language is a sign of somebody who has a very limited vocabulary.
0:24:02 > 0:24:05Oh, well, that's right, that's what I've got(!)
0:24:05 > 0:24:07You're right. You just keep to that.
0:24:07 > 0:24:10Before we go, you and I will end up falling out
0:24:10 > 0:24:14and we'll never get to where we're going because I'll throw you out.
0:24:18 > 0:24:20How would they police this?
0:24:20 > 0:24:23If you're walking through a park and you see somebody spitting or
0:24:23 > 0:24:29cursing and you walk over, you're liable to get a hiding out of it.
0:24:29 > 0:24:32NORMAN: Stephen, if you look at the flag protests...
0:24:32 > 0:24:34Ulster's British! Yeah!
0:24:34 > 0:24:35CHEERING
0:24:35 > 0:24:39People are swearing at the police and the police stand idly by
0:24:39 > 0:24:41and just watch it and take a photo of it,
0:24:41 > 0:24:44so how are they going to impose it in a park
0:24:44 > 0:24:47when the police can't even impose it on the street?
0:24:47 > 0:24:48And if I was a warden,
0:24:48 > 0:24:51I wouldn't like to go up to some of these people and say,
0:24:51 > 0:24:54"I'm fining you for swearing," because I know what would happen.
0:24:54 > 0:24:58You know what people are like nowadays,
0:24:58 > 0:25:00with the road rage and trolley rage.
0:25:00 > 0:25:03People can say, "I can report you for swearing,"
0:25:03 > 0:25:05but at the end of the day, as Anne-Marie says, prove it.
0:25:05 > 0:25:09What, are you going to swear at your dog and to run and get the ball?
0:25:09 > 0:25:11"For fuck's sake, get that ball!"
0:25:11 > 0:25:12SHE LAUGHS
0:25:12 > 0:25:16Or are you going to swear at your kids? "Will you BLEEP get off that
0:25:16 > 0:25:19"and get on the other thing, for BLEEP sake, I want to go home!"
0:25:19 > 0:25:21Aye. But I don't think so.
0:25:21 > 0:25:24Here's Graham in Portadown. Morning, Graham. Good morning, Stephen.
0:25:24 > 0:25:27As far as I'm concerned, my dog can defecate where it likes.
0:25:27 > 0:25:30I'll throw my paper where it likes and I will curse where I want to.
0:25:30 > 0:25:33And do you know what? I've two words for Jim Rodgers
0:25:33 > 0:25:34and the second one's "off".
0:25:34 > 0:25:38Well, that's just... That's just impolite, ridiculous.
0:25:39 > 0:25:43So you two wouldn't mind, then, a rule on swearing in a park?
0:25:43 > 0:25:47Wouldn't give a shite, like, I've never heard anybody swearing.
0:25:47 > 0:25:52I haven't heard anybody swearing in a park. So I haven't.
0:25:52 > 0:25:54Put it this way, I haven't been actually close enough
0:25:54 > 0:25:57to anybody's conversation to hear them swearing.
0:25:57 > 0:26:02You haven't been nosy enough. Yeah, that's a better word, Anne-Marie.
0:26:02 > 0:26:05You haven't been nosy enough to hear anybody's conversation in the park.
0:26:05 > 0:26:08Because you would need to be on top of somebody to actually...
0:26:08 > 0:26:11Aye, on top of somebody, or in the bushes!
0:26:13 > 0:26:15Then you could have a hell of a swear.
0:26:15 > 0:26:19There is the inside voice coming back out again, Anne-Marie.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22N-N-No. You have to be close enough. Buh-buh-buh-buh!
0:26:22 > 0:26:24I know, see, you've got me stumped.
0:26:24 > 0:26:27You have to be close enough to hear somebody swear,
0:26:27 > 0:26:30and if you're close enough, you're being a nosy fucker.
0:26:38 > 0:26:40Do you know what? When we were creating this show,
0:26:40 > 0:26:44we just knew that we needed the bottle, the authenticity
0:26:44 > 0:26:46of what makes a Nolan listener,
0:26:46 > 0:26:49and there's no doubt that every single one of them have now
0:26:49 > 0:26:55become huge stars of their own show, so to all of you, thank you.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57You want to see a countryman, you come to the city
0:26:57 > 0:26:59because there's none in the country.
0:26:59 > 0:27:01I'm telling you, I'll teach you a thing or two.
0:27:01 > 0:27:04When I get up to Ballygowan, ooh!
0:27:04 > 0:27:07Would you let him up to Ballygowan? Oh, God...
0:27:07 > 0:27:08The gay cake?
0:27:08 > 0:27:10Oh, aye, about the bakery?
0:27:10 > 0:27:12Do you know where it fits?
0:27:12 > 0:27:13Up his hole.
0:27:14 > 0:27:16Oh, he's taking something down.
0:27:16 > 0:27:19Oh, holy Jesus, he's taking my clock down next.
0:27:20 > 0:27:21Jesus, the house is wrecked.
0:27:21 > 0:27:24I know you want me to say to you... I'm deflated.
0:27:24 > 0:27:26.."Give me your number," but it's not going to happen.
0:27:26 > 0:27:28No, I know it's not. Cos if you and I...
0:27:28 > 0:27:30If I give you a number it'll be ex-directory.
0:27:30 > 0:27:32If you and I went into the Cathedral Quarter,
0:27:32 > 0:27:33it'd be nothing but rows and rows.
0:27:33 > 0:27:36I'd be standing beside you, I would happen to glance over
0:27:36 > 0:27:38and there's another woman standing there
0:27:38 > 0:27:41and I'll be saying to myself, "Jesus, look at her."
0:27:41 > 0:27:43You would be raging. Do you ever stop?
0:27:43 > 0:27:45You would be raging, honestly.
0:27:45 > 0:27:46DOG BARKS
0:27:46 > 0:27:50We hear you, so we do. We hear you.
0:27:50 > 0:27:53PRODUCER: What about Norman from Bangor?
0:27:53 > 0:27:57Oh, no, no! I'll get angry at him but I still laugh.
0:27:57 > 0:28:01But Norman, no, I think Norman is a bit extreme, so he is.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03MUSIC: Don't Worry, Be Happy by Bobby McFerrin
0:28:03 > 0:28:05# Don't worry, be happy now... #
0:28:05 > 0:28:09HE HUMS ALONG
0:28:09 > 0:28:10# Don't worry
0:28:12 > 0:28:13# Be happy
0:28:15 > 0:28:17# Don't worry, be happy... #
0:28:17 > 0:28:19Brilliant.