Episode 17

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0:00:03 > 0:00:07WOLF HOWLS

0:00:09 > 0:00:12Turn off the lights, disconnect the doorbell

0:00:12 > 0:00:14and leave the trick or treaters to the neighbours

0:00:14 > 0:00:17because you won't want to miss a minute of tonight's show.

0:00:17 > 0:00:19We've got freakish films, witch trials,

0:00:19 > 0:00:23the best of non-fiction and a snapshot of fine art

0:00:23 > 0:00:26and photography from the National Gallery, here in London.

0:00:26 > 0:00:29Coming up, Mark Kermode

0:00:29 > 0:00:33and John Sweeney investigate new film The Master.

0:00:33 > 0:00:38I'll be comparing Old Masters with modern photographers.

0:00:38 > 0:00:42Miranda Sawyer reviews three of the short-listed books

0:00:42 > 0:00:45for this year's Samuel Johnson Prize.

0:00:45 > 0:00:50And we'll be summoning up a piece of Halloween gold from the TV archives.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58But first, from Shameless, Silk and Strindberg

0:00:58 > 0:01:01to a haunting Myra Hindley, via a role in Dinnerladies

0:01:01 > 0:01:05with Victoria Wood, it may come as a surprise that actress Maxine Peake

0:01:05 > 0:01:10has turned her talents to electronica, with music collective

0:01:10 > 0:01:12the Eccentronic Research Council.

0:01:12 > 0:01:16Their latest concept album tells the tale of the Pendle Witches,

0:01:16 > 0:01:19a subject close to Maxine's heart.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22WOLF HOWLS

0:01:22 > 0:01:24BELL TOLLS

0:01:27 > 0:01:35Elizabeth Southerns, Elizabeth Device, James Device, Alison Device,

0:01:35 > 0:01:38Anne Whittle, Anne Redferne, Jane Bulcock, John Bulcock,

0:01:38 > 0:01:43Katherine Hewitt, Isabel Robey, Margaret Pearson and Alice Nutter.

0:01:45 > 0:01:49The Pendle Witches are a group of people from Pendle, Lancashire,

0:01:49 > 0:01:51who were accused of witchcraft.

0:01:51 > 0:01:57And they were just local people who were mainly very poor,

0:01:57 > 0:02:01uneducated, and who'd dealt a little bit in the selling of herbs

0:02:01 > 0:02:04and potions for illnesses.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08They were just women and men just trying to get by.

0:02:09 > 0:02:12I'm from Lancashire, from Bolton.

0:02:12 > 0:02:14So we always knew they were the witches from over the hill.

0:02:14 > 0:02:18I grew up in the shadow of the West Pennines.

0:02:18 > 0:02:21It was probably only when I got to about 17, 18, that

0:02:21 > 0:02:27I started investigating further, but I just thought this can't be true.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31So I went into a local bookshop in Bolton

0:02:31 > 0:02:38and got a couple of books and that's when I started to realise really that it was sort of a smokescreen

0:02:38 > 0:02:40that was based on conspiracy and paranoia,

0:02:40 > 0:02:42and the seriousness of it.

0:02:42 > 0:02:48I got in touch with Adrian rather embarrassingly through Facebook actually.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50I just got a message from this guy saying,

0:02:50 > 0:02:53"I think you'd like my music," and I though, "Will I?"

0:02:53 > 0:02:57And he sent me a track over and I loved it.

0:02:57 > 0:02:59And then the subject of the Pendle Witches came up

0:02:59 > 0:03:03and we both had this passion to tell the true story.

0:03:03 > 0:03:05So we said, "Let's do something."

0:03:05 > 0:03:09# The A666, some call the devil's highway

0:03:09 > 0:03:10# And some call the road to hell

0:03:10 > 0:03:13# But I can't believe the devil came from Bolton

0:03:13 > 0:03:16# And gorged on black peas astride a small stone elephant

0:03:16 > 0:03:19# And I don't believe he was ever a fan of Chris Rea. #

0:03:19 > 0:03:21The album is a travelogue. It is based on a day

0:03:21 > 0:03:24me and Adrian came up to Pendle and had a good old mooch around.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27Adrian sort of went away

0:03:27 > 0:03:31and wrote from the experiences that we had that day.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34I never thought of being in a band, and when I recorded this

0:03:34 > 0:03:36I still didn't think I was going to be in a band.

0:03:36 > 0:03:38And then we got a call saying they want to release it as an album

0:03:38 > 0:03:41and could we do a few gigs to promote the album?

0:03:41 > 0:03:43And that's when I panicked.

0:03:43 > 0:03:45# My pal and I hit this particular road

0:03:45 > 0:03:48# Like Terry and June in a battered old Hillman Minx

0:03:48 > 0:03:50# Masquerading as an Eddie Stobart truck

0:03:50 > 0:03:52# To give thanks

0:03:52 > 0:03:56# And praise the Lord to those ladies known as the Pendle Witches

0:03:56 > 0:03:59# Those uneducated, mostly very poor, sometimes a little bit daft

0:03:59 > 0:04:01# But then, aren't we all?

0:04:01 > 0:04:04# Women who were by and large unjustly hung by cretinous agenda

0:04:04 > 0:04:08# Filled judges and their potty Reformation obsessed word editors

0:04:08 > 0:04:12# On the orders of the bully kings

0:04:12 > 0:04:15# Proof, if ever needed, that man can be a black dog. #

0:04:22 > 0:04:27Pendle Witches' sort of tragic story started with...

0:04:27 > 0:04:33Alison Device was...out on the moor one day and there was a peddler who'd come over

0:04:33 > 0:04:35from Halifax who was selling pins.

0:04:35 > 0:04:38She'd asked him for some pins and he'd said no.

0:04:38 > 0:04:42So she'd probably said, "On yer bike, mate," which was taken as a curse.

0:04:42 > 0:04:46He then supposedly fell down on the floor in extreme pain.

0:04:46 > 0:04:51Now, if you read the description, the gentleman had obviously had a stroke.

0:04:51 > 0:04:55But it was taken that Alison had cursed him.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59So then she was hauled in with her mother and the family

0:04:59 > 0:05:02and the families who had been sort of connected with them,

0:05:02 > 0:05:05all of them were accused of witchcraft.

0:05:05 > 0:05:08So that's how it started.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11At the time of the Pendle Witches, James I was in power

0:05:11 > 0:05:15and he completely believed that witchcraft was a threat

0:05:15 > 0:05:21and that anybody seen to be, God forbid, fiddling with twigs

0:05:21 > 0:05:24or anything like that, he would have them condemned as a witch.

0:05:24 > 0:05:27You had to be so careful about how you conducted yourself.

0:05:27 > 0:05:32You could be, as unfortunately these women were, murdered.

0:05:33 > 0:05:36# Hang the witch, oh, shut them up

0:05:37 > 0:05:44# It's a middle-class vendetta on women who were better

0:05:45 > 0:05:50# Sorry to murmur, praise heart

0:05:52 > 0:05:58# If you don't believe in Jesus, don't think there'll be a Christmas

0:05:59 > 0:06:04# Another day has gone, another witch is dead

0:06:06 > 0:06:09# Another day is gone... #

0:06:09 > 0:06:14I can see very clear parallels with today, how people are sort of

0:06:14 > 0:06:18swept under the carpet if they don't fit in, if they're on

0:06:18 > 0:06:23the margins, very poor, uneducated, we're not dealing with these people

0:06:23 > 0:06:29face on, we're just pushing them in cupboards and closing the door

0:06:29 > 0:06:32and hoping that they're out of sight, instead of dealing with it.

0:06:32 > 0:06:37The album is about smokescreens and I think what happens in this country today

0:06:37 > 0:06:42and throughout the world, governments are very good at pinpointing people

0:06:42 > 0:06:47who are accused of being the root cause of things when it's not really, it's just to deflect.

0:06:47 > 0:06:50We should never forget our history

0:06:50 > 0:06:53and maybe we'll get out of the mess we're in at the moment if we do that.

0:06:53 > 0:06:58# One last spell I offer up

0:06:59 > 0:07:04# Contains grains and worms and carrots

0:07:04 > 0:07:09# 16th-century Holland and Barrett, dear you

0:07:09 > 0:07:11# Snap my neck and wave goodbye

0:07:12 > 0:07:17# Every eye that sees is guilty

0:07:17 > 0:07:22# Of a subtle kind of cruelty. #

0:07:22 > 0:07:28Just in case 1612 Underture should have crept under your radar,

0:07:28 > 0:07:30it's out and available now.

0:07:30 > 0:07:34Now, there's a real buzz about Paul Thomas Anderson's new film,

0:07:34 > 0:07:39not least because it's loosely based on the story of L Ron Hubbard,

0:07:39 > 0:07:41founder of Scientology.

0:07:41 > 0:07:45Mark Kermode went to see the film with Panorama's John Sweeney,

0:07:45 > 0:07:48a man who's come face-to-face with the organisation

0:07:48 > 0:07:50and knows it better than most.

0:07:53 > 0:07:58The Church of Scientology has long had strong ties with Hollywood

0:07:58 > 0:08:00and many of its stars.

0:08:02 > 0:08:04Now, Paul Thomas Anderson,

0:08:04 > 0:08:07the wunderkind behind movies like Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood

0:08:07 > 0:08:11and Magnolia, has released a film inspired in part by the life

0:08:11 > 0:08:14of L Ron Hubbard and the early days of the movement he founded.

0:08:14 > 0:08:18The Master tells the story of a Navy veteran,

0:08:18 > 0:08:20drifter and down-and-out who falls under the spell

0:08:20 > 0:08:26of the charismatic leader of a new quasi-religion, the Cause.

0:08:26 > 0:08:30I am a writer, a doctor, a nuclear physicist, a theoretical philosopher.

0:08:30 > 0:08:33But above all, I am a man, just like you.

0:08:34 > 0:08:38In the States, it broke opening weekend records for an arthouse release

0:08:38 > 0:08:41and has been hotly tipped for Academy Awards.

0:08:41 > 0:08:44While, over here, the film's allusions to Scientology

0:08:44 > 0:08:47have already caused a bit of a media stir.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52So I wanted to ask someone who's been up close and personal

0:08:52 > 0:08:55with the controversial church what he made of the film.

0:08:55 > 0:08:59BBC Panorama reporter John Sweeney has fronted two investigations

0:08:59 > 0:09:04into Scientology and its members, not the easiest of assignments.

0:09:04 > 0:09:08- You don't understand the nature of journalism, with respect.- No, no.

0:09:08 > 0:09:12- I don't understand the nature of you as a person.- Very good, thank you.

0:09:12 > 0:09:16- John?- Hi, Mark.- Welcome to the Culture Show.- Thank you.- Take a seat.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22So, John, we've just watched The Master together. I loved it.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25- What did you make of it?- I thought the film was extraordinary.

0:09:25 > 0:09:27I thought it was bold and good.

0:09:27 > 0:09:31I'm still troubled by my experience with the Church of Scientology.

0:09:31 > 0:09:35I found this film almost healing, in some sense.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38What's wonderful for me

0:09:38 > 0:09:41about The Master is it explains the birth of a cult.

0:09:41 > 0:09:45Because the thing that really gets me

0:09:45 > 0:09:48and confuses all of my friends and people who think about it,

0:09:48 > 0:09:51ex-Scientologists, is how on earth do they fall for this?

0:09:51 > 0:09:55How do they fall for this man and this thing, this entity,

0:09:55 > 0:10:00this "church", and the answer is...he had charisma.

0:10:00 > 0:10:05And what's so brilliant about this film is you see how a man

0:10:05 > 0:10:10with immense charisma can mould people around him

0:10:10 > 0:10:12to believe he is someone special.

0:10:12 > 0:10:18He's been writing all night. You seem to inspire something in him.

0:10:18 > 0:10:23What we will do now will urge you toward existence within a group.

0:10:23 > 0:10:26Paul Thomas Anderson has said that The Master is not meant to be

0:10:26 > 0:10:28a biopic of L Ron Hubbard

0:10:28 > 0:10:31but he accepts that there are very pronounced parallels.

0:10:31 > 0:10:35Tell us, from your knowledge, what those parallels would be.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38Let's start with, they call it processing,

0:10:38 > 0:10:40Scientology calls it auditing.

0:10:40 > 0:10:44What happens is you go into a trance-like hypnotic state

0:10:44 > 0:10:48and you talk through your past lives on tape.

0:10:48 > 0:10:52Are you thoughtless in your remarks? Do your past failures bother you?

0:10:52 > 0:10:56Is your life troubled? Is your behaviour erratic?

0:10:56 > 0:11:00The biggest thing of all is that Hubbard,

0:11:00 > 0:11:05the founder of Scientology, was massively charismatic and a conman.

0:11:05 > 0:11:10And in the film, the Master is massively charismatic and a conman.

0:11:10 > 0:11:14- You might learn something.- He's making all this up as he goes along.

0:11:14 > 0:11:16You don't see that?

0:11:18 > 0:11:21There's Jason Beghe, who's left the Church

0:11:21 > 0:11:24and he's said about Scientology that there has never been

0:11:24 > 0:11:27a mousetrap without some really good cheese in it.

0:11:27 > 0:11:29They love-bomb you to death.

0:11:29 > 0:11:35And at the beginning of the film, certainly, Phoenix is a wreck

0:11:35 > 0:11:38and the Cause does help him.

0:11:38 > 0:11:42They listen to him. There is some kind of weird family.

0:11:42 > 0:11:44And they look after him.

0:11:44 > 0:11:50If we are not helping him, then it is we who have failed him.

0:11:50 > 0:11:52Perhaps he's past help.

0:11:52 > 0:11:54Or insane.

0:11:54 > 0:11:59The Cause feels like a good thing for really quite a while

0:11:59 > 0:12:02and then it's suddenly when the sceptic arrives

0:12:02 > 0:12:04and questions the Master

0:12:04 > 0:12:08that it turns nasty and gets progressively darker and darker.

0:12:08 > 0:12:11Good science by definition allows for more than one opinion,

0:12:11 > 0:12:15otherwise you have the will of one man, which is the basis of cult.

0:12:15 > 0:12:19And this is where we're at, to have to explain ourselves. For what?

0:12:19 > 0:12:22The only way to defend ourselves is to attack.

0:12:22 > 0:12:24From your personal experience,

0:12:24 > 0:12:27it's obviously struck a very deep chord in relation to Scientology.

0:12:27 > 0:12:30Do you think it's possible to read the film in any other way?

0:12:30 > 0:12:33It's not absolutely about Scientology, even for me.

0:12:33 > 0:12:36You don't have to be in the least bit interested

0:12:36 > 0:12:39in the Church of Scientology or have ever heard of it

0:12:39 > 0:12:42to find this film an amazing piece of art.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45It's a love affair between two men.

0:12:45 > 0:12:49It's a film about a charismatic domineering personality.

0:12:49 > 0:12:51It could also be about other cults.

0:12:51 > 0:12:55Do you think there's any particular reason why this film exists now?

0:12:55 > 0:13:01I think Scientology used to have an octopus-like grip on Hollywood.

0:13:01 > 0:13:06And that is weakening. It should have been made 20 years ago.

0:13:06 > 0:13:09But it's great that they've done it now.

0:13:09 > 0:13:12- John, thank you very much. - Thank you.

0:13:12 > 0:13:14And The Master is out on Friday,

0:13:14 > 0:13:17going on general release in two weeks' time.

0:13:17 > 0:13:22Next, a groundbreaking new exhibition at the National Gallery,

0:13:22 > 0:13:25which for the first time in its 150 years of history

0:13:25 > 0:13:29is devoting a major show to the subject of photography,

0:13:29 > 0:13:33specifically the links between photography and painting.

0:13:33 > 0:13:34I went along to find out

0:13:34 > 0:13:38what we might learn from this double exposure.

0:13:40 > 0:13:45In 1839, a new technology revolutionised the image.

0:13:45 > 0:13:46Photography. Almost immediately,

0:13:46 > 0:13:52it sparked a heated debate that's still going on today.

0:13:52 > 0:13:55So, can a photograph be a work of art?

0:13:55 > 0:13:57It's an old chestnut

0:13:57 > 0:13:59and personally I think the answer's straightforward - of course it can.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02Every time the photographer depresses the shutter,

0:14:02 > 0:14:05all kinds of artistic decisions are being made,

0:14:05 > 0:14:09about focus, about light, about composition.

0:14:09 > 0:14:13And yet in many people's minds, questions still hover.

0:14:13 > 0:14:18Isn't photography too easy, too mechanical, too much of a shortcut?

0:14:18 > 0:14:22Can a photograph ever be really as truly

0:14:22 > 0:14:25and deeply expressive as a great painting?

0:14:29 > 0:14:32To explore, I've come to the National Gallery's

0:14:32 > 0:14:36first major photography exhibition, which has Old Masters of painting

0:14:36 > 0:14:39rubbing shoulders with groundbreaking photographers,

0:14:39 > 0:14:41past and present.

0:14:41 > 0:14:43Pioneers like Julia Margaret Cameron were convinced that

0:14:43 > 0:14:49photography could be art, and used smudged paint effects to prove it.

0:14:49 > 0:14:55But, 150 years later, photography was still painting's poor relation.

0:14:55 > 0:15:00In the '70s, Craigie Horsfield was one of the first contemporary artists to make a breakthrough.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07I remember, 20 years ago,

0:15:07 > 0:15:10you were well known for bridling if anybody called you a photographer.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12You said, "No, no, I'm an artist,

0:15:12 > 0:15:14"and I happen to use a camera some of the time."

0:15:14 > 0:15:18If you were showing Gilbert & George, it's photography, or is it?

0:15:18 > 0:15:19Warhol - is that photography?

0:15:19 > 0:15:22It's such a nebulous description,

0:15:22 > 0:15:28and it doesn't actually apply to most of what we see and experience.

0:15:28 > 0:15:33Horsfield's work challenges some perceived limitations of the photograph -

0:15:33 > 0:15:36that they're small, slight, quick to reproduce,

0:15:36 > 0:15:38lacking the weight of painting.

0:15:38 > 0:15:40He produces only one image,

0:15:40 > 0:15:43emphasising the uniqueness of the object itself.

0:15:45 > 0:15:49I notice that you are one of the few in the exhibition

0:15:49 > 0:15:51who doesn't have a sheet of glass

0:15:51 > 0:15:54interposed between image and audience.

0:15:54 > 0:15:57To me, that has the effect of drawing me

0:15:57 > 0:16:01into the photographic paper, almost beginning to see

0:16:01 > 0:16:05the photographic paper itself is another form of skin on which these pigments,

0:16:05 > 0:16:08these shapes, these forms have been imprinted.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10Is that part of your intention?

0:16:10 > 0:16:14Yes, it is an aquarelle paper, where you have this tactile surface.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16If you look very closely,

0:16:16 > 0:16:20you can see the stippling almost as if it was the pores of the skin,

0:16:20 > 0:16:22but, of course, it is an illusion.

0:16:22 > 0:16:24There's a strong sense of enigma about it.

0:16:24 > 0:16:29I have this sense that he's really thinking about something that's been said to him.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32There's almost like a sense of clenching in his cheek muscles.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34There is.

0:16:34 > 0:16:37But this is surely one of the fascinating aspects of making art,

0:16:37 > 0:16:40and especially making pictures,

0:16:40 > 0:16:43that this is a story.

0:16:43 > 0:16:44We know that it's not real.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47It's not this person in this place.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50It's an account of somebody who we've never met,

0:16:50 > 0:16:52who we will only know this about.

0:16:52 > 0:16:54- Yeah.- And...

0:16:54 > 0:16:57- It's almost like the Mona Lisa quality.- Well...

0:16:57 > 0:17:00- Except he's not smiling!- It's something that art can do, isn't it?

0:17:03 > 0:17:06Horsfield's work has been described as painterly

0:17:06 > 0:17:07in both its process and its nature.

0:17:07 > 0:17:10He paved the way for some of the artists here,

0:17:10 > 0:17:13many of whom explore the relationship

0:17:13 > 0:17:15between photography and art history.

0:17:17 > 0:17:22Richard Learoyd uses a 19th-century process,

0:17:22 > 0:17:24a camera obscura,

0:17:24 > 0:17:27a gigantic photographic device the size of a room.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32The image is projected directly onto the paper itself,

0:17:32 > 0:17:34making each image unique.

0:17:34 > 0:17:37Sittings can last for days.

0:17:39 > 0:17:40All of this effort,

0:17:40 > 0:17:43all of this labour into the camera obscura effect.

0:17:43 > 0:17:46What is it, the effect you're trying to get? What's the sensation?

0:17:46 > 0:17:50The sensation is the power of the photograph.

0:17:50 > 0:17:53I think that making photographs in that way

0:17:53 > 0:17:55creates image of a scale

0:17:55 > 0:17:58without a printmaking process intervening.

0:17:58 > 0:18:02This process is incredibly good at giving people

0:18:02 > 0:18:05a centre of gravity, giving a sense of weight

0:18:05 > 0:18:09and three-dimensionality that defies the photographic surface.

0:18:09 > 0:18:15Learoyd's work is often directly inspired by existing works of art.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17The National Gallery reveals the connection

0:18:17 > 0:18:20between his aesthetic and that of the painter Ingres.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25My references and the things that I sort of am drawn to

0:18:25 > 0:18:26are actually painterly.

0:18:26 > 0:18:30It's a funny relationship that I have with photography.

0:18:30 > 0:18:34I think I am slightly unusual in that I take...

0:18:34 > 0:18:38Sometimes I take a very literal interpretation of an image that I like.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42But when I was looking at this photograph for the first time,

0:18:42 > 0:18:45- I did actually think of Ingres... - Yeah.

0:18:45 > 0:18:47..with that lost profile of the face

0:18:47 > 0:18:51and this tremendous sensual focus on flesh itself.

0:18:51 > 0:18:55That flesh is something that people are invited to scrutinise.

0:18:55 > 0:18:59It's only your children or your lover that you ever get to look at

0:18:59 > 0:19:04so closely, to see, well, actually he's got hair here,

0:19:04 > 0:19:08and the pores of the skin are quite smooth, so you can evaluate his age.

0:19:08 > 0:19:10Maybe he's not in a manual profession

0:19:10 > 0:19:15because his fingernails are quite, you know, they're pretty good.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17There's a softness of the skin.

0:19:17 > 0:19:19You make a lot of decisions about somebody

0:19:19 > 0:19:21when you can look at them incredibly closely.

0:19:21 > 0:19:24Can a photograph

0:19:24 > 0:19:28be expressive in the same way, as deeply, as profoundly

0:19:28 > 0:19:34of somebody's sensibility, as a painting or a sculpture?

0:19:34 > 0:19:37I think yes, but it isn't a casual yes.

0:19:37 > 0:19:41I think that photography has enormous problems.

0:19:41 > 0:19:44The medium has enormous problems.

0:19:44 > 0:19:46The equalisation of technology,

0:19:46 > 0:19:49the fact that everybody carries a phone,

0:19:49 > 0:19:51everybody makes photographs all the time.

0:19:51 > 0:19:54It's almost as if everybody was wandering the streets

0:19:54 > 0:19:56with a canvas, painting constantly!

0:19:56 > 0:19:57Yeah, yeah.

0:19:57 > 0:20:00How much more difficult would it be to produce a Titian?

0:20:00 > 0:20:02Well, yes, that's a good point.

0:20:02 > 0:20:07It can be, at its best, incredibly moving, photography.

0:20:07 > 0:20:09But it moves in different ways. It's a very complicated area.

0:20:09 > 0:20:11You can get pictures that are emotional

0:20:11 > 0:20:14because of what they're showing you rather than what they are.

0:20:14 > 0:20:19I think that what I'm interested in is photographs that are moving

0:20:19 > 0:20:21or emotional because of what they actually are.

0:20:25 > 0:20:27Next up, the Samuel Johnson Prize,

0:20:27 > 0:20:31shining a light on the very best non-fiction writing.

0:20:31 > 0:20:34Miranda Sawyer picked three books on the shortlist to see

0:20:34 > 0:20:36who scaled the heights this year.

0:20:40 > 0:20:43'The Samuel Johnson Prize is Britain's most prestigious

0:20:43 > 0:20:45'award for non-fiction,

0:20:45 > 0:20:48'and has previously been won by books on subjects

0:20:48 > 0:20:51'as diverse as China's great famine under Mao,

0:20:51 > 0:20:53'an account of our fascination with whales,

0:20:53 > 0:20:56'and the story of a real-life Georgian murder mystery.'

0:20:59 > 0:21:03The six books on this year's shortlist are equally broad-ranging,

0:21:03 > 0:21:06but my selected three have a few themes in common.

0:21:06 > 0:21:10They're all weighty, scholarly tomes that analyse war and human conflict.

0:21:10 > 0:21:14They shine a light onto our more brutal and vicious traits,

0:21:14 > 0:21:17but also offer a glimpse of redemption.

0:21:22 > 0:21:25Mount Everest is the looming presence at the centre of

0:21:25 > 0:21:27Into The Silence by Wade Davis,

0:21:27 > 0:21:30a gripping account of man's first attempts to conquer

0:21:30 > 0:21:32the roof of the world

0:21:32 > 0:21:36in a series of expeditions between 1921 and 1924.

0:21:39 > 0:21:42Wade Davis, who is an award-winning anthropologist

0:21:42 > 0:21:45and explorer in his own right, is brilliant at plotting

0:21:45 > 0:21:49the history behind the British desire to conquer Everest.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51By 1912, we'd lost the race to both poles,

0:21:51 > 0:21:54so scaling the largest mountain in the world

0:21:54 > 0:21:57became absorbed into the colonial effort,

0:21:57 > 0:22:01in Davis' words, "A grand imperial gesture."

0:22:03 > 0:22:07But the backdrop to this epic quest was the battlefields of World War One,

0:22:07 > 0:22:11where men were subjected to an onslaught of death and destruction.

0:22:11 > 0:22:16EXPLOSIONS AND GUNFIRE

0:22:16 > 0:22:19'In the noise and chaos and horror of the battle,

0:22:19 > 0:22:21'all communication collapsed.

0:22:21 > 0:22:23'Those few who advanced slowed

0:22:23 > 0:22:26'and faltered, burdened by their loads,

0:22:26 > 0:22:28'leaning and bowing into the storm

0:22:28 > 0:22:30'as if to limit exposure to the land.'

0:22:31 > 0:22:35Out of the 23 climbers who took part in the world's first

0:22:35 > 0:22:36Everest expeditions,

0:22:36 > 0:22:4017 had experienced the horrors of the trenches.

0:22:40 > 0:22:43This is the final attempt here,

0:22:43 > 0:22:461924, and we see Mallory and Sandy Irvine,

0:22:46 > 0:22:48who accompanied him.

0:22:48 > 0:22:52Mallory was the most illustrious climber of his generation,

0:22:52 > 0:22:53so therefore the most famous.

0:22:53 > 0:22:57And this one here is the very last photograph taken of Mallory

0:22:57 > 0:22:59and Irvine as they set off from camp four

0:22:59 > 0:23:02to make their assault on Everest,

0:23:02 > 0:23:04and neither of them came back.

0:23:07 > 0:23:12Whether Mallory and Irvine reached the summit is still disputed.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14The three expeditions to conquer Everest had failed.

0:23:14 > 0:23:19But man's obsession with defeating it never ceased.

0:23:21 > 0:23:23I'm not normally into stories of exploration

0:23:23 > 0:23:27and British derring-do, but this book is much more than that.

0:23:27 > 0:23:29For a start, it's beautifully written,

0:23:29 > 0:23:33and the way that Wade Davis explores human suffering

0:23:33 > 0:23:35and the effect of World War One

0:23:35 > 0:23:38on the individual and national psyche

0:23:38 > 0:23:40makes this book genuinely moving.

0:23:42 > 0:23:46But less than 20 years after the First World War,

0:23:46 > 0:23:48violence and fighting had returned to Europe,

0:23:48 > 0:23:52this time to a country at war with itself.

0:23:54 > 0:23:57The Spanish Holocaust, written by Paul Preston,

0:23:57 > 0:24:01an academic and a leading authority on modern Spanish history,

0:24:01 > 0:24:04is a chilling yet powerful account of the mass slaughter

0:24:04 > 0:24:07committed by Franco's troops during the Spanish Civil War.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12In Spain, there is what has often been called the pact of silence.

0:24:12 > 0:24:15That was an important part of the transition to democracy.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17When Franco died,

0:24:17 > 0:24:22people were terrified that there wouldn't be a democratic transition,

0:24:22 > 0:24:25and therefore there was this kind of tacit agreement,

0:24:25 > 0:24:28"Let's not rake over the past."

0:24:28 > 0:24:31So in a way, I wanted to, if you like,

0:24:31 > 0:24:34to break the pact of silence.

0:24:34 > 0:24:36I felt someone had to do it.

0:24:41 > 0:24:42On 18th July, 1936,

0:24:42 > 0:24:46on hearing of the military uprising in Morocco,

0:24:46 > 0:24:50an aristocratic landowner lined up the labourers on his estate

0:24:50 > 0:24:52to the south-west of Salamanca

0:24:52 > 0:24:55and shot six of them as a lesson to the others.

0:24:55 > 0:24:59Aguilera's cold and calculated violence

0:24:59 > 0:25:02reflected the belief common among the rural upper classes

0:25:02 > 0:25:05that the landed labourers were subhuman.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08You use the word holocaust, it's a Spanish holocaust.

0:25:08 > 0:25:13- Why did you choose that word in particular? It's quite loaded. - What I wanted to do was to shock.

0:25:13 > 0:25:18I wanted a word that would capture my sense of indignation,

0:25:18 > 0:25:21my sense of horror at what had happened.

0:25:21 > 0:25:25Franco had such an amazingly good press in the Anglo-Saxon world.

0:25:25 > 0:25:28He's still thought of as this gallant Christian gentleman,

0:25:28 > 0:25:32when in fact the piles of dead bodies over which Franco clambered

0:25:32 > 0:25:36to get to power were something I felt needed attention being drawn to.

0:25:36 > 0:25:40There were evenings when my wife would come home from work

0:25:40 > 0:25:44and she would find me literally weeping over the keyboard.

0:25:44 > 0:25:46It was appalling.

0:25:50 > 0:25:54Steven Pinker's The Better Angels Of Our Nature

0:25:54 > 0:25:57offers a more optimistic outlook for mankind.

0:25:57 > 0:25:59Pinker is a polymath and author of several popular

0:25:59 > 0:26:02science books about language and the human mind.

0:26:04 > 0:26:08In this, his latest work, he argues that over the course of human history,

0:26:08 > 0:26:10violence has declined

0:26:10 > 0:26:15and we are now living in the most peaceful era of our species' existence.

0:26:15 > 0:26:18It sounds a bit too good to be true.

0:26:18 > 0:26:22But Pinker's argument is convincing as well as thought-provoking,

0:26:22 > 0:26:26and it's backed up with an incredible amount of research,

0:26:26 > 0:26:29masses of data and graphs that chart violent incidents over time

0:26:29 > 0:26:32and adjust them according to the world's population.

0:26:33 > 0:26:36'Critics have been raving about this book.

0:26:36 > 0:26:38'It's been called "brilliant" and "mind-altering".

0:26:38 > 0:26:41'Pinker believes that the pacification of the world

0:26:41 > 0:26:44'is a steady and ongoing trend.'

0:26:44 > 0:26:47The women's liberation and civil rights movements

0:26:47 > 0:26:51illustrate how far we've come from fighting each other

0:26:51 > 0:26:53to fighting for each other's rights.

0:26:54 > 0:26:58So, Steven, I've read two other books on the shortlist

0:26:58 > 0:27:01that are essentially full of mankind's brutality.

0:27:01 > 0:27:06And yet your book is trying to give us a reason for optimism.

0:27:06 > 0:27:10I kept coming across these statistics that no-one else seemed to know about,

0:27:10 > 0:27:13that violence seems to be in decline

0:27:13 > 0:27:15in multiple ways.

0:27:15 > 0:27:17So many people think that things are getting worse,

0:27:17 > 0:27:21and being privy to these studies showing that it is the other way around,

0:27:21 > 0:27:24I thought that the news had to get out.

0:27:24 > 0:27:27What would you like people to take away from your book?

0:27:27 > 0:27:31One is a sense of gratitude for the institutions that have made life pleasant

0:27:31 > 0:27:34in ways that we sometimes don't appreciate,

0:27:34 > 0:27:37and also the knowledge that it's not hopeless,

0:27:37 > 0:27:40the world is not a hellhole, we've been doing something right.

0:27:40 > 0:27:44Thinking that we can reduce war still further is not romantic,

0:27:44 > 0:27:47it's not idealistic, it's completely practical.

0:27:47 > 0:27:51Thank you, Steven, and I'd like to say that I spent ages reading thousands and thousands of words

0:27:51 > 0:27:53of how terrible people have been to each other,

0:27:53 > 0:27:57and you have given me a glint of hope, so I'd like to say thank you very much.

0:27:57 > 0:27:59My pleasure, thank you!

0:28:01 > 0:28:05And next week I will be looking at the other three nominees on the shortlist.

0:28:05 > 0:28:09But finally tonight, a piece of unexpectedly terrifying telly

0:28:09 > 0:28:11first broadcast 20 years ago today.

0:28:11 > 0:28:14Following a public outcry and a slew of complaints,

0:28:14 > 0:28:17it was deemed too disturbing ever to be repeated in full -

0:28:17 > 0:28:22quite an achievement for an entirely fictitious spoof documentary.

0:28:22 > 0:28:25But here, for one night only, resurrected from the BBC crypt,

0:28:25 > 0:28:27Ghostwatch will play us out.

0:28:27 > 0:28:30And remember, it's not real. Good night.

0:28:32 > 0:28:35Sarah, Sarah, are you all right?

0:28:35 > 0:28:38Suzanne's a lot quieter now.

0:28:38 > 0:28:43But they won't move. They won't listen to me.

0:28:44 > 0:28:48I think Suzanne's in some kind of a state of shock.

0:28:48 > 0:28:51MIC FEEDBACK

0:28:51 > 0:28:53What do I do? I can't leave them.

0:28:53 > 0:28:56Sorry, I've got to take this out. It's making a terrible noise.

0:28:56 > 0:28:58BANGING

0:28:58 > 0:29:00I don't know what's going on.

0:29:00 > 0:29:01Can you hear this?

0:29:01 > 0:29:04Smithy? Michael? Dr Pascoe?

0:29:04 > 0:29:06There are credible noises

0:29:06 > 0:29:09coming from the walls and from the ceiling.

0:29:09 > 0:29:11SCREAMING

0:29:11 > 0:29:13# Tonight on Halloween. #