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:00:20. > :00:23.IN WELSH: Helo a chroeso i'r One Show gyda Matt Baker a Alex

:00:24. > :00:31.And fresh from the streets of Cardiff some very excited members

:00:32. > :00:53.Later on we'll mark the occasion by telling the tale of a Welsh

:00:54. > :00:57.who became a national hero by not winning a world championship title.

:00:58. > :00:59.And our guest tonight is an actress who obviously has

:01:00. > :01:02.a great eye for drama, as she's currently taking over telly

:01:03. > :01:04.in three of the most popular shows on our screens.

:01:05. > :01:09.And plays the new detective in the most unsuitably named town

:01:10. > :01:13.Please welcome the very busy Katherine Kelly!

:01:14. > :01:23.CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Hiya Katherine. Happy St David's Day. You

:01:24. > :01:28.can take a daff home with you. I just taught my little girl to say

:01:29. > :01:32.daffodil. So here you are in these three very popular shows, but if you

:01:33. > :01:37.think about how lovely is to work with, put that to one side, as a

:01:38. > :01:42.viewer which one do you enjoy the most when you are sitting watching

:01:43. > :01:46.the telly. You've got do choose one. That's not true, but I think on a

:01:47. > :01:52.Tuesday night I like Happy Valley. On a Friday night I like Mr

:01:53. > :01:55.Selfridge and on a Sunday night I like The Night Manager. It is lucky

:01:56. > :02:00.they are not on the same night. If you've ever stood

:02:01. > :02:03.on your bathroom scales and not believed your eyes, the good news

:02:04. > :02:06.is it might not be you. The One Show has found the scales

:02:07. > :02:09.you rely on at home are often wrong from the moment you take

:02:10. > :02:24.them out of the box. For those of you eating your tea you

:02:25. > :02:28.might want to look away for the first few seconds. We've all been

:02:29. > :02:33.there. Standing on the bathroom scales thinking, that can't be

:02:34. > :02:37.right! Are we just kidding ourselves, or could we really be on

:02:38. > :02:43.to something? Just how accurate are our bathroom scales? And are these

:02:44. > :02:48.new fan dangled ones worth the extra money? So we are putting the five

:02:49. > :02:53.best-selling bathroom scales to the test. A top of the range model, the

:02:54. > :02:58.cheapest we could find, one of the most recognisable brand names, the

:02:59. > :03:03.leading supermarket's own model and an old school mechanical scale.

:03:04. > :03:09.Today's test rehearse all superfit gym bunnies who want an accurate

:03:10. > :03:13.reading to help them stay in tip top condition. First they are all

:03:14. > :03:19.weighed on professional medical scales this. One is regularly

:03:20. > :03:27.checked for accuracy. Sarah is 49.9 kilograms. Jacob is 89en 9, and

:03:28. > :03:31.Michael is 84. 5 kilograms. Then it is all aboard our scales with The

:03:32. > :03:38.One Show researcher on hand to keep a close eye on the readings. They

:03:39. > :03:43.are a bit awkward to read. Open your legs... 90.3, a bit heavier than the

:03:44. > :03:50.other scales. The results are varied, to say the least. 50.2. You

:03:51. > :03:55.are getting heavier as we go down the line. On the Tesco scales Sarah

:03:56. > :04:01.weighed a third of a kilo more than on the medical ones, a and Michael

:04:02. > :04:06.is 1.5 kilos less on the mechanical scales. You've gone down! I know.

:04:07. > :04:11.The ones that compared the best to the professional scales were the

:04:12. > :04:15.cheapest set of scales. So a bit of a surprise there. It is nice to know

:04:16. > :04:24.you don't have to splash the cash to get a good set of scales. We like

:04:25. > :04:29.saving money. So this Duronic has beaten its more expensive rivals

:04:30. > :04:36.when tested by our volunteers. We need to test a weight that doesn't

:04:37. > :04:41.change, like these, the weights used by Trading Standards officers like

:04:42. > :04:48.Margaret Statham to test factory scales. None of the scales gives the

:04:49. > :04:53.same reading, but because the margin of error stays the same you can

:04:54. > :04:58.check any changes in your weight. You need to know if you've lost or

:04:59. > :05:01.gained weight. All of them were consistent in that they weighed the

:05:02. > :05:06.same amount every time you put the same weight on. Nowadays some

:05:07. > :05:11.bathroom scales do a lot more than just give us our weight. Three of

:05:12. > :05:16.our scales use special foot pad sensors to work out your body fat

:05:17. > :05:20.%age. That's supposed to be a much better guide to how much fat you've

:05:21. > :05:34.lost and how much muscle you've gained. But are our bathroom scales

:05:35. > :05:40.accurate? This is the Dexa body -- body composition scanner. It gives a

:05:41. > :05:48.digital breakdown of our volunteers' fat, muscle and bone. But do our

:05:49. > :05:51.scales come anywhere near this level of precision? Compared to our gold

:05:52. > :05:58.standard machine unfortunately they are just not showing the same. The

:05:59. > :06:06.Tanita scales said Michael's body fat was about 14%. The Dexa, almost

:06:07. > :06:14.21, the Duronic said Sarah was 10.5. The Dexa reading was 18.3. Jacob had

:06:15. > :06:18.almost 23% on the weight watchers scales compared to 17% on the Dexa.

:06:19. > :06:23.They are not even close. They are not. But they have their use in this

:06:24. > :06:28.tracking changes in body composition. So you might as well

:06:29. > :06:35.buy the cheapest one? To track changes, yes. So at ?9.99 the

:06:36. > :06:41.Duronic was the winner. Burr remember, none of our scales were

:06:42. > :06:44.100% accurate. Next time I step on the scales and get a nasty shock, it

:06:45. > :06:50.really might be those scales. We contacted all the manufacturers

:06:51. > :06:53.of the scales in our tests and those that responded say that while they

:06:54. > :06:56.can't match the accuracy of the Dexa body scanner in the film, they aim

:06:57. > :06:59.to produce quality products for personal use at an affordable price

:07:00. > :07:16.that help people track their health Let's cheer ourselves up by talking

:07:17. > :07:20.Happy Valley. All sorts of walks of life, goodness me. We don't want to

:07:21. > :07:24.give too much away, but tell us about the back story of your

:07:25. > :07:31.character, Jody. She wasn't in the first series. No, I suppose series 2

:07:32. > :07:35.is still very much about Sarah Lancashire's character Katherine and

:07:36. > :07:39.her sister and the family, and Tommy Lee Royce, who is now in prison.

:07:40. > :07:45.That becomes Sarah's character's home life story. Back at the police

:07:46. > :07:49.station, we quickly found out in the first episode it looks like there's

:07:50. > :07:54.a serial killer on the loose, so some detectives are brought in

:07:55. > :07:58.ectives are brought in to crack the case - myself, Vincent and Kevin

:07:59. > :08:02.Doyle. From tonight's episode, Kevin Doyle's character isn't everything

:08:03. > :08:06.you think he is. He isn't the legitimate detective that my

:08:07. > :08:12.character Jody is. OK. We have got here the first scene that you and

:08:13. > :08:19.Sarah Lancashire filmed. What I need you to do is to go away and look at

:08:20. > :08:25.your smartphone, your diary, your pocket book, look at your work

:08:26. > :08:31.roster, check your calendar at home and get back to us with an accurate

:08:32. > :08:38.account, a chronological account of what you were doing on Saturday 23rd

:08:39. > :08:46.July to Saturday 26th August. You are not a suspect.

:08:47. > :08:50.APPLAUSE. Wow! A nice little bang on the Welsh drum there. We understand

:08:51. > :08:53.you watched the first series on the other side of the world, in

:08:54. > :09:01.Australia. Yes. And here you are in a series that's so close to home for

:09:02. > :09:07.you. Yes. It's bizarre. I was over in Australia, for my maternity

:09:08. > :09:12.leave, for ten months. Very good friends of Steve Pemberton. He was

:09:13. > :09:17.in the series and I'm a big fan of Sally wane rights. So we sat there

:09:18. > :09:22.with baby Orla and I thought I have to get the DVD of Happy Valley, as

:09:23. > :09:26.everybody was talking about it. We pretty much watched it back to back,

:09:27. > :09:30.we were hooked. When I came back we met up with Sally, and she said

:09:31. > :09:34.there's a part in series 2 I really would like you to play. I couldn't

:09:35. > :09:38.believe it. They literally film a 10 minutes drive from where my mum and

:09:39. > :09:42.dad live. What's it like to be working so close to home for you?

:09:43. > :09:47.It's great. It wasn't great timing in that I was still filming Mr

:09:48. > :09:52.Selfridge, so I couldn't enjoy the fact I could go back home as much,

:09:53. > :09:55.but I was really sat on trains from London to Yorkshire. But I really

:09:56. > :09:57.enjoyed it. It's a beautiful part of the world and there's so much

:09:58. > :10:04.filming up there now. It's fantastic. We were nearby a few

:10:05. > :10:09.weeks ago in Hebden Bridge. It's been really praised for how accurate

:10:10. > :10:15.it is to a real police force. A lot of policemen say that's the only

:10:16. > :10:18.thing they can watch and not cringe. Sally Wainwright insisted on that.

:10:19. > :10:23.How much shadowing and the rest of it did you do to get into your

:10:24. > :10:27.character? We had CID training, the three of us that play the

:10:28. > :10:33.detectives, up at hall facts and figures we even got to go to the pub

:10:34. > :10:37.with them. Them. We wanted the full experience. But there's always

:10:38. > :10:41.police supervisors on set, Sam and Lisa. They are constantly...

:10:42. > :10:45.Literally everything, a scene, probably one of the few times you

:10:46. > :10:50.see Jody not behind the desk, when they've got to get out fast. Even in

:10:51. > :10:56.a case of but what would you pick up? What would you take? She is car

:10:57. > :11:00.keys. Absolutely the car keys. They are so on it all the time. The

:11:01. > :11:03.police officers that we did our CID training with said it's one of the

:11:04. > :11:08.few police programmes that they can watch this they don't burst out

:11:09. > :11:11.laughing and go, as if you've had do that! They think

:11:12. > :11:18.What did you take from them on the day you were observing them and how

:11:19. > :11:22.different would your performance be if you hadn't been with them? Loads

:11:23. > :11:27.of things. I could fill the show with the things I learnt that day.

:11:28. > :11:30.It was one of the most amazing days. This thing about detectives like

:11:31. > :11:36.coming in and cracking a case doesn't exist. It is all about the

:11:37. > :11:40.team. I think what I took from it is Jody's character, her background is

:11:41. > :11:45.all that she did a law degree first and went to be a police officer.

:11:46. > :11:50.She's the one who can do, you will see tonight and in future episodes,

:11:51. > :11:54.she does the interviews, as she can get them to say the right things to

:11:55. > :11:58.get a conviction and into court. You need a team, as it is all about

:11:59. > :12:03.getting that conviction all day. Fascinating. We look forward to

:12:04. > :12:10.seeing how the story unfolds. Also on Friday nights, as we've pointed

:12:11. > :12:14.out, Mr Selfridge. You've been doing them back to back. It must have been

:12:15. > :12:21.tough in terms of scheduling. I was so happy that we could make it work,

:12:22. > :12:25.as it doesn't always. It is the goodwill of production companies to

:12:26. > :12:30.share you a bit. It was nice to play opposite characters and to be a part

:12:31. > :12:35.of both of them. Mr Selfridge, two more episodes to go and that's it.

:12:36. > :12:43.It is the end of the character. Do you take the props home? A lot of it

:12:44. > :12:46.is hired. But they gave me a beautiful dressing gown that she

:12:47. > :12:52.wears and a little tea set. This was the big moment that went out on

:12:53. > :12:59.Friday. The kiss. It's been building up for a long time. You've been in

:13:00. > :13:04.so many big, big things in your career. We've actually got we think

:13:05. > :13:10.your first television appearance, correct us if we are wrong. Last of

:13:11. > :13:14.the Summer Wine. Quite a while ago. It says in this book one of the

:13:15. > :13:19.major weapons in the armoury of the perfect home make ser a gift for

:13:20. > :13:26.flower arranging. Charlene, it's not flower arranging.

:13:27. > :13:31.APPLAUSE. Was it? I filmed that in Holmfirth as well. Did you? It is

:13:32. > :13:37.like full circle. What are your memories of Last of the Summer Wine?

:13:38. > :13:41.It was bizarre. They hadn't even locked down a supermarket. It was

:13:42. > :13:46.supermarket I used to go to with my friends who lived up the road. So

:13:47. > :13:51.many people were like, Kate! We had to do it so many times. It was the

:13:52. > :13:55.most bizarre thing. I still don't know what I'm talking about - flower

:13:56. > :13:57.arranging? Happy Valley is on tonight, continues at 9 o'clock on

:13:58. > :14:05.BBC One. Joining us tonight is Andrew

:14:06. > :14:08.who nearly one year ago underwent ground breaking surgery to solve

:14:09. > :14:10.decades of debilitating knee pain. That experiment is still growing

:14:11. > :14:14.inside Andy as we speak and before we find out the results,

:14:15. > :14:33.here's Michael Mosley 45-year-old father of two, Andrew,

:14:34. > :14:38.is about to undergo surgery. He has badly damaged the cartilage in his

:14:39. > :14:44.knee and it has become so painful it is affecting his quality of life.

:14:45. > :14:49.Andrew is one of 10,000 people in the UK who suffer from serious

:14:50. > :14:53.cartilage damage. Cartilage plays a crucial role, protecting the knee

:14:54. > :14:59.from everyday wear and tear. This is a model of the knee with the muscle

:15:00. > :15:04.on top and you can see there is a little rubber disc between the two

:15:05. > :15:09.bones. That is the cartilage and their job is to act as shock

:15:10. > :15:13.absorbers and protect the join. Cartilage takes a lot of punishment

:15:14. > :15:18.which means it can be easily damaged whatever your age and activity.

:15:19. > :15:23.Unlike normal tissue it does not have its own blood supply, so when

:15:24. > :15:28.it gets damaged it is extremely poor on going back or healing. The

:15:29. > :15:35.current treatment is an operation to encourage the growth of scar tissue.

:15:36. > :15:41.An orthopaedic surgeon explains. You make some holes in the bone and they

:15:42. > :15:47.stimulate leading and form a clot over the joint surface defect. Over

:15:48. > :15:51.time that clot changes into scarred tissue and that protects the exposed

:15:52. > :15:56.bone. But there are problems with this treatment. The short-term

:15:57. > :16:00.results are pretty good, but long-term we know the strength of

:16:01. > :16:06.that scar tissue is not strong and it breaks down and patients get the

:16:07. > :16:11.symptoms again. Which can lead to more surgery. So they are testing an

:16:12. > :16:16.extraordinary procedure, to grow new cartilage within the knee. It is the

:16:17. > :16:20.first clinical trial of its kind in the UK and Andrew is one of the

:16:21. > :16:25.first patients to be operated on. What they are about to do is very

:16:26. > :16:32.new and very experimental. He is going to inject into the knee joint

:16:33. > :16:38.some stem cells. Stem cells can become many different types of cell.

:16:39. > :16:42.This gives them the ability to divide and regenerate into tissue

:16:43. > :16:48.cells damaged by injury or disease. They are part of the body's built in

:16:49. > :16:55.repair kit. It is this unique power they are hoping to harness in this

:16:56. > :16:59.trial. The bone is perforated, but instead of leaving it at that, they

:17:00. > :17:06.take a further step. He extracts bone marrow from Andrew's pelvis,

:17:07. > :17:10.which is particularly rich in stem cells. These are mixed with a

:17:11. > :17:15.special gel that allows them to stick to the bone and stimulates

:17:16. > :17:23.growth. This is the stem cell mixture in it in a syringe. We

:17:24. > :17:27.squirt it into that area rather like putting Polyfilla on a wall and over

:17:28. > :17:33.time that transforms into normal cartilage. It will be months before

:17:34. > :17:38.they know if the stem cells have successfully developed into new

:17:39. > :17:43.cartilage. I expect to see improvements within six months. Then

:17:44. > :17:46.we follow them up annually after that because the proof of the

:17:47. > :17:51.pudding is how well do these people do over a period of time? And have

:17:52. > :17:58.they had a marked improvement in their quality of life? Andrew and

:17:59. > :18:04.Gorav are here with us. What was it like looking inside your own knee?

:18:05. > :18:12.It was quite good actually. Something nobody else ever gets to

:18:13. > :18:14.see. That was in March, last year, how is your knee feeling now and

:18:15. > :18:21.what can you do now that you could not do? Walk around without paying

:18:22. > :18:26.basically, a lot of freedom and movement to do things I could not do

:18:27. > :18:32.before like going shopping, going out for a walk with the dogs. No

:18:33. > :18:41.pain. No pain at all? Very little pain. That is pretty amazing. After

:18:42. > :18:48.an hour I would start getting pain before. I have got to the limit

:18:49. > :18:56.where I do not feel pain unless it is after 12 hours or something.

:18:57. > :19:00.Gorav, tell us about the trial. It is great to see he has got such a

:19:01. > :19:06.resolution of his symptoms and no pain. It is called the Abacus trial

:19:07. > :19:10.and is based in Southampton. One group of patients get the standard

:19:11. > :19:16.treatment with perforations in the bone and bleeding and the scar

:19:17. > :19:22.tissue to protect the bone. Andrew's group, we get the stem cells from

:19:23. > :19:26.the pelvis and we Polyfilla over the defect and what we are hoping for is

:19:27. > :19:34.that it grows cartilage, rather like growing a long way you put damaged

:19:35. > :19:40.seeds on the area of the damage long and it repairs. You have not been

:19:41. > :19:45.able to look inside your knee to see whether or not it is successful.

:19:46. > :19:50.Gorav, you have brought some scans with you. Let's look at the picture

:19:51. > :19:57.before the operation. This is the side view of an MRI scan. The knee

:19:58. > :20:03.cap is visible and the white is the joint fluid. Immediately behind it

:20:04. > :20:09.there is a crater. What you should see is a thin, grey membrane which

:20:10. > :20:16.is the cartilage. In that picture there is no cartilage. And then we

:20:17. > :20:22.have the picture of the knee after the operation. Here we go, tell us

:20:23. > :20:28.what is different. This is about a year after. You can see you have

:20:29. > :20:34.still got the fluid, but behind that you can see a thin layer of grey

:20:35. > :20:38.lining coating the bone. That is cartilage, or a cartilage type

:20:39. > :20:44.substance which is protecting the bone and allowing him to have less

:20:45. > :20:51.symptoms. So it is working, do you expect this to continue? How long

:20:52. > :20:54.will the trial go on? It is ongoing and we will monitor patients five

:20:55. > :21:00.years down the line because that will tell as if it is successful.

:21:01. > :21:04.What we do not want is the cartilage to break down and leave exposed

:21:05. > :21:09.bone. If we have lack of symptoms at five years, we will have success.

:21:10. > :21:17.Could this be a solution for arthritis sufferers? People get

:21:18. > :21:21.arthritis in two different ways. One is general underpinning of the

:21:22. > :21:28.joints, a long that goes barren through lack of grass and grows

:21:29. > :21:37.Brown. This is for treatment of people with arthritis and to start

:21:38. > :21:42.with a defect. Thank you very much. Being Saint David's day, it is only

:21:43. > :21:48.fitting we take time to celebrate another legendary Welsh man. Who

:21:49. > :21:53.have you gone for? Jim Driscoll, because he is one boxer's uncrowned

:21:54. > :22:00.kings the ring who missed his date with destiny for a very good reason.

:22:01. > :22:06.Long before Joe Calzaghe, south Wales has had a passion for boxing,

:22:07. > :22:11.never more so when fighters first laced up their gloves more than a

:22:12. > :22:16.century ago. One Cardiff boxer, Jim Driscoll, inspired such devotion

:22:17. > :22:25.that 100,000 mourners lined the streets for his funeral. So how did

:22:26. > :22:30.a boxer who never actually became world champion gained such affection

:22:31. > :22:37.that the public demanded a send off fit for a Royal? It is the nearest

:22:38. > :22:43.thing we have ever had in Wales to a state funeral. I think Jim was one

:22:44. > :22:48.of these people who actually transcended his spot. He was born in

:22:49. > :22:55.abject poverty just a few yards from this very stature. He was the son of

:22:56. > :22:59.Irish parents and he cared deeply about the people in his community.

:23:00. > :23:03.Through his achievements in the boxing ring and charitable work, he

:23:04. > :23:09.was able to unite the whole community. Jim Driscoll progressed

:23:10. > :23:16.from the fairground boxing booths of south Wales to British and Empire

:23:17. > :23:22.titles. He took America by storm with a winning run against the best

:23:23. > :23:26.featherweight of the early 1900th. In 1909, he was rewarded with a

:23:27. > :23:33.fight against the formidable world featherweight champion. He was so

:23:34. > :23:40.skilful, he gave him a boxing lesson. He clearly won seven of the

:23:41. > :23:46.ten rounds. The unfortunate thing was you were in the era of no

:23:47. > :23:51.decision contests in America. Unlike this match Jim Ford in Britain, the

:23:52. > :23:56.American fight was under American no decision rules were champions could

:23:57. > :24:00.keep their titles as long as they were not knocked out. Although

:24:01. > :24:04.ringside journalists made Jim Driscoll the clear points winner,

:24:05. > :24:09.his opponents stayed on his feet and did not give up the championship. He

:24:10. > :24:14.was not world champion in name, but he got the better of him on that

:24:15. > :24:19.particular night. There was talk of an immediate rematch. But the

:24:20. > :24:24.rematch date clashed with a promised Jim Driscoll had made to attend a

:24:25. > :24:28.fundraiser. Incredibly he chose to turn down the biggest fight of his

:24:29. > :24:34.career to return home and support an orphanage. If that happened today,

:24:35. > :24:42.people would have had a completely different reaction. You may get

:24:43. > :24:45.people who would say the boxer in question had got licked, but we

:24:46. > :24:48.cannot understand at this distance the kind of poverty people were

:24:49. > :24:53.experiencing in this area of Cardiff. He was prepared to

:24:54. > :24:58.sacrifice the ultimate achievement in the boxing ring for the people

:24:59. > :25:05.who were dependent to a large extent on his efforts on their behalf. The

:25:06. > :25:09.intervention of World War I and poor health meant that Jim Driscoll had

:25:10. > :25:14.missed his last shot at the title. That is an incredible decision, to

:25:15. > :25:21.forfeit a chance at going for a world title because he had made this

:25:22. > :25:26.promise. We need to remember how things started out for Jim Driscoll.

:25:27. > :25:31.His father died when he was a few months old. His mother had to take

:25:32. > :25:37.on work in the docks. He would have seen the sacrifices that his mother

:25:38. > :25:40.had to make and growing up in that poverty he thought, if I can do

:25:41. > :25:48.something about this, I sure am going to. Jim Driscoll died of new

:25:49. > :25:52.mania aged just 44. At his funeral procession thousands upon thousands

:25:53. > :25:59.of men, women and children paid their respects on the streets of

:26:00. > :26:05.Cardiff. Jim Driscoll's fundraising helped the orphanage survived and in

:26:06. > :26:10.return they did him a posthumous favour. The orphanage paid for Jim

:26:11. > :26:20.Driscoll's gravestone and decided to rewrite a little bit of boxing

:26:21. > :26:25.history. Peerless Jim was never officially world champion, but on

:26:26. > :26:34.his gravestone that is how the orphans wanted Tim remembered. And

:26:35. > :26:38.this is the irony because David, not Saint David, just David, your

:26:39. > :26:43.grandfather, great-grandfather, played a part in the reason why Jim

:26:44. > :26:50.Driscoll never became champion. Well, my grandfather fought him in

:26:51. > :26:54.an exhibition fight in Cardiff and everybody reckoned he beat him. My

:26:55. > :26:58.grandfather was champion of Wales at the time, but you could not have

:26:59. > :27:04.somebody who was potentially a world champion beating the Welsh champion,

:27:05. > :27:11.could you? Absolutely not. My grandfather always said that he beat

:27:12. > :27:16.him. Foxes are generally fair. That is not the reason why you are here.

:27:17. > :27:23.No, I was fascinated with Jim Driscoll. You have all just come

:27:24. > :27:31.from Cardiff and there are so many outfits to talk about. Let's have a

:27:32. > :27:35.look at yours. This is the same David's cloth. You can see the

:27:36. > :27:42.colours of the flag and that is the Harada symbol of Saint David, the

:27:43. > :27:48.cross of Saint David. And this is the Welsh sporran. I can see why you

:27:49. > :27:57.went for that, it matches your moustache. No, I grew that after. A

:27:58. > :28:02.lot of people will say, that is associated with the Scots, but the

:28:03. > :28:07.Welsh court in just before. A long time before. All the Celts used to

:28:08. > :28:11.wear one piece of weaving. Killed were warned by the Celts and we know

:28:12. > :28:17.that for a fact because there are many graves in Wales where the Welsh

:28:18. > :28:23.men were buried in the effigy is in a kilt. This was way back before

:28:24. > :28:29.Victorian times when Scottish kilts took off. You wear it well. Let's

:28:30. > :28:38.have a word with you. Why are you wearing this? I am the shape

:28:39. > :28:42.shifting goddess. I am partly human and sometimes I change into a crow

:28:43. > :28:50.and I carry people off the field into the back of the other world.

:28:51. > :28:55.Let's move aside so that we can see everybody. Thank you so much for

:28:56. > :29:02.making the journey from Cardiff. Happy Saint David's day. Let's have

:29:03. > :29:06.a bit of piping, that is all we have got time for tonight. A big thank

:29:07. > :29:11.you to Katherine. Happy Valley continues tonight at nine o'clock on

:29:12. > :29:14.BBC One.