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:00:18. > :00:23.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

:00:24. > :00:28.Tonight the most famous person to come out of Port Talbot. What about

:00:29. > :00:33.Sir Anthony Hopkins? Tonight, the second most famous person to come

:00:34. > :00:41.out of Port Talbot! What about Michael Sheen? Tonight's guest is

:00:42. > :00:45.from Port Talbot, it is Rob Brydon! He is our favourite person! You

:00:46. > :01:01.should think of Richard Burton as well. There are just too many. Hi!

:01:02. > :01:04.Here we are, what is it like, April Fools' Day, for a comedian? Are

:01:05. > :01:10.people trying to get you all the time? I am not a big practical

:01:11. > :01:15.joker. The only April Fools' Day I ever did was Ken Bruce's radio show

:01:16. > :01:22.on Radio 2, I did the whole thing as him. It is a really easy voice to

:01:23. > :01:26.do, you know? You only have to talk like that. And that is it, I did the

:01:27. > :01:32.whole thing, and by people thought, is the ill?! Is he drunk? Is he

:01:33. > :01:39.finally having the breakdown? They just didn't know. For the it went on

:01:40. > :01:47.and on. I kept on talking for the whole show. We did pop master,

:01:48. > :01:53.traffic and travel. I would love to hear that! It is an YouTube! Earlier

:01:54. > :01:59.today we decided to play an April fool on some unsuspecting

:02:00. > :02:03.passers-by. Is somebody walking off? People are wondering why I am

:02:04. > :02:10.talking to a box. It is a very good question, but all will be revealed!

:02:11. > :02:14.And we will be talking to Rob about his road trip to Italy in a very

:02:15. > :02:18.small car with Steve Coogan. But first, Theo Paphitis has been on the

:02:19. > :02:26.road to Yorkshire, keen to dish out a feisty businesses facing a

:02:27. > :02:30.challenging future. I have been running businesses for

:02:31. > :02:34.over 30 years. One thing that still inspires me was budding

:02:35. > :02:39.entrepreneurs. Over the next year, I will be following the fortunes of

:02:40. > :02:46.four great British businesses, we will see the highs, the lows, the

:02:47. > :02:50.good, the bad and maybe some ugly. Today I am meeting an inventor from

:02:51. > :02:54.Leeds who lived on a clever idea while he was a local councillor and

:02:55. > :02:58.has been trying to turn it into a money spinning business ever since.

:02:59. > :03:05.How are you doing? Good to see you. Matthew, tell us, why have you

:03:06. > :03:09.brought us here? I am going to show you some potholes. They are forming

:03:10. > :03:13.all up and down the country, local authorities do not have the money to

:03:14. > :03:18.deal with it, and the roads are getting dangerous. And you have the

:03:19. > :03:24.solution? We have this solution! Show me. Believe it or not, potholes

:03:25. > :03:29.are big business. Councils spend over ?100 million last year to

:03:30. > :03:35.repair our potholes in the roads, and they forked out a staggering ?32

:03:36. > :03:39.million in compensation claims. But Matthew and his dad have been

:03:40. > :03:43.working on a wonder machine that could be the solution to Britain's

:03:44. > :03:51.pothole problem. It mills it out into a larger uniform hole, and into

:03:52. > :03:55.that we put a preformed tarmac block of the same shape. The reason we

:03:56. > :04:00.call it the jigsaw system is it is like putting the last piece in a

:04:01. > :04:05.puzzle. Why is this better than the council's system? It is cheaper,

:04:06. > :04:12.faster and longer lasting. It could save ?40 million a year this year

:04:13. > :04:16.and every year. Wow! The boys have ploughed ?100,000 into

:04:17. > :04:19.the jigsaw. They have had some interest from local councils and

:04:20. > :04:27.could do with some orders to start balancing the books. But there is a

:04:28. > :04:32.big problem. Guys, state-of-the-art?! It is a

:04:33. > :04:37.load of old junk! Our engineer took took it apart, and before he had the

:04:38. > :04:43.time to put it back together, he died. That is a real problem. But

:04:44. > :04:46.you need a product to take to investors, you cannot take them a

:04:47. > :04:50.whole lot of junk. What are you going to do? There is nothing like

:04:51. > :04:55.this anywhere else in the world. If we don't do it, someone else will.

:04:56. > :05:03.It is a great idea, but without a prototype it will be a bumpy ride.

:05:04. > :05:05.But they might be in luck. A local engineering firm reckon they can

:05:06. > :05:07.rebuild it. The technology is something we are familiar with, it

:05:08. > :05:12.is the application which is the unique element. We have experience

:05:13. > :05:16.in a number of heavy industries, positioning as well to help them

:05:17. > :05:23.out. There is a good chance that Mike and his team can rescue these

:05:24. > :05:27.pothole pioneers, but at what cost? How did it go? To complete the

:05:28. > :05:36.design and get is a preproduction machine to demonstrate, we need

:05:37. > :05:42.?43,000. Boy, 100,000 already gone, another 43. Where is that money

:05:43. > :05:49.going to come from? We are out there seeking high net worth investors.

:05:50. > :05:52.Either a financial investor or an end-user investor, someone who has a

:05:53. > :05:57.requirement for the product. How will you make money from this? We

:05:58. > :06:04.are looking at making a small profit in year one, 60 8000. We are looking

:06:05. > :06:11.at 1 million in year two. -- 68,000. Profit? We are going to sell 60

:06:12. > :06:18.lives in year one, 12 in year two. And when you sell 12 units, you will

:06:19. > :06:22.make ?1 million profit? We are indeed, based on each unit doing 20

:06:23. > :06:29.repairs each working day of the year. I am beginning to like this

:06:30. > :06:33.idea! I was a bit worried, but now I can see it like this and I can

:06:34. > :06:38.understand it, you might just have a chance. To be successful in

:06:39. > :06:43.business, you have got to have dreams, and that is what they have

:06:44. > :06:48.got, but can they make their dream come true? We will soon find out. I

:06:49. > :06:51.will be back later in the year to find out if they've found the cash

:06:52. > :06:57.they need to get their business on the road.

:06:58. > :07:04.Well, Theo is just commenting on how beautiful his car looks! Those doors

:07:05. > :07:08.that shut so smoothly. It has got a button inside, you press the button

:07:09. > :07:12.and it shut automatically, but it would make him redundant. Another

:07:13. > :07:16.about the car, what about the jigsaw? I thought you were going to

:07:17. > :07:24.put the 40 grande dame. They didn't ask me! I did think they were

:07:25. > :07:28.barking mad. They told me all about it, they were very excited, it is in

:07:29. > :07:36.the garage, and it was basically in pieces. I was saying, it is junk, it

:07:37. > :07:41.is rubbish. The designer took it apart and unfortunately... They have

:07:42. > :07:46.done a good call out there. So if somebody out there has a cracking

:07:47. > :07:52.idea, how should they proceed? Should they tell somebody? Let's not

:07:53. > :07:55.get carried away, not all cracking ideas are moneymaking ideas. When

:07:56. > :08:00.you are sitting in the back and have your Eureka moment, think about it

:08:01. > :08:03.first. If you really think you have got an invention that will

:08:04. > :08:09.revolutionise the world, and you cannot afford to pay to and it, you

:08:10. > :08:12.can send a letter to yourself or to your lawyer just too protected while

:08:13. > :08:20.you do more investigation. But the best way to do it is too protected,

:08:21. > :08:24.but it does cost a lot of money. If you are doing your homework, what

:08:25. > :08:30.are the key questions? Can I make money? Is there a demand? On

:08:31. > :08:35.Dragons' Den, people say, I have spent ?200,000 on this, and I asked

:08:36. > :08:42.my auntie Edith, she thought it was April in idea. Don't ask her! Where

:08:43. > :08:51.are they from?! Have you not seen them? They all sound the same! It is

:08:52. > :08:58.Arnold Blaise... You know them as well?! I think I might have met

:08:59. > :09:03.them! Ask somebody who does not like you all might want to pay for it.

:09:04. > :09:07.The good news is, Theo, this is the first in a series you are doing for

:09:08. > :09:13.the One Show. Oh, that is marvellous news! That is not good news, that is

:09:14. > :09:19.brilliant news. I could easily sit through another two or three of

:09:20. > :09:28.those. Not all at once, you understand. Let's whetted appetite!

:09:29. > :09:34.You say that with such conviction. Do not bet the farm. They sold

:09:35. > :09:40.everything. They sold everything to buy this cafe. Rats in the kitchen,

:09:41. > :09:46.they have broken every rule, and that is what I like about them. You

:09:47. > :09:53.have been there as well? It is not really like that, is it?! There are

:09:54. > :10:01.a few spots left, get in touch if you need the old's help. You never

:10:02. > :10:08.know. Talking of voices, will you do the man in the box for us?

:10:09. > :10:17.Oh, my word, how on earth does he do this?! I really don't know! I am

:10:18. > :10:22.sure you think someone in the gallery was doing that. There is no

:10:23. > :10:28.technical trickery, that is two and a half years of drama school. Money

:10:29. > :10:36.well spent. As a tribute to your man in a box, we thought we would bring

:10:37. > :10:41.new Matt in a box. This sounds good. We set up a cardboard box on

:10:42. > :10:47.London's Southbank in which Matt was apparently crammed inside. But I was

:10:48. > :10:53.hidden in a nearby van, the box contained nothing but a speaker.

:10:54. > :10:57.Would anyone fall for it? Sorry, we have got Matt Baker in this box.

:10:58. > :11:07.Come and have a chat with us. He is really nice. Why are you in the box?

:11:08. > :11:14.We are trying to break a world record. Can you hear me tapping?

:11:15. > :11:25.That is very close to my head! Don't tip the box. Will you do me a favour

:11:26. > :11:30.and entertain me in some way? I am not an entertainer, I don't sing or

:11:31. > :11:35.dance. Will this be screened after I have thrown you in the river? There

:11:36. > :11:44.are some people wondering why I am talking to a box. Do some exercises,

:11:45. > :11:51.start with the stretchers. What can you do? He is probably in this

:11:52. > :11:56.position. If you can drop your neck lower, move your hips back

:11:57. > :12:05.towards... Oh, yeah, hang on, are you still there? Yeah. Good, have

:12:06. > :12:12.you got a favourite song? # Jo Leedham,

:12:13. > :12:28.he is really good at dancing. I could spin you around. Well, well,

:12:29. > :12:35.well! Happy April Fools' Day. Turnaround, I am in the silver van,

:12:36. > :12:40.give us a wave! The fun you can have with a box and

:12:41. > :12:47.a microphone. Thank you for playing along. Thanks for allowing us to

:12:48. > :12:52.show it. Small man trapped in a box features in the new series of The

:12:53. > :12:56.Trip, which is set in Italy. We have seen it, we think it is brilliant,

:12:57. > :13:02.but it is very hard to describe what it is, isn't it, Rob? It is Steve

:13:03. > :13:06.Coogan, the popular northern comedian, and myself, driving around

:13:07. > :13:11.Italy, a follow-on from the first one we did three or four years ago

:13:12. > :13:14.in the Lake District. The idea is that we are reviewing restaurants

:13:15. > :13:18.for a Sunday paper, and in this one they sent us to Italy, and we are

:13:19. > :13:24.playing exaggerated versions of ourselves. Sometimes very much like

:13:25. > :13:28.ourselves, sometimes not. Bickering and, you know, a little bit of

:13:29. > :13:36.impressions with each other. You have a lot of that. We do, yes. You

:13:37. > :13:41.say on the first episode, you know, I am affable but not as affable as

:13:42. > :13:46.in real life. I think that is very true, yes. We improvise a lot, and

:13:47. > :13:52.yes, I think people think of me as affable and I am affable! But I am

:13:53. > :13:56.not as affable as people think I am... So I am a little bit less

:13:57. > :14:02.affable... I am still very affable! But they think I am very, very

:14:03. > :14:07.affable. I am not that affable. I am affable. I mean, Matt is an affable

:14:08. > :14:16.man, but I think I am more affable than Matt. I am. You are fairly

:14:17. > :14:21.affable. Am I affable? I think you are... The same. Matt was the same

:14:22. > :14:26.on and off-screen. We were going to ask you about a second series, but

:14:27. > :14:32.here is Steve Coogan having a very similar conversation with you about

:14:33. > :14:38.hitting the road again. It's like trying to do a sequel. It's never

:14:39. > :14:48.going to be as good as the first. Just when I thought I was out, they

:14:49. > :14:55.pull me back in. What is that licking thing you're doing? That's

:14:56. > :15:01.what he does! Just when I think I've made two terrific movies, they go

:15:02. > :15:07.and make another! I'm back in. It's OK. He's doing an impersonation.

:15:08. > :15:15.Where is that line between you being you and you being The Trip you? It's

:15:16. > :15:19.a very hard question to answer. When we had a real meal, we would eat

:15:20. > :15:23.together and there would be none of that competitiveness. It would be

:15:24. > :15:27.just two middle aged men slowly decaying in front of each other. A

:15:28. > :15:32.loss of the series is about getting older. We're both nearly 49 and it's

:15:33. > :15:38.the time of life when you start to look at things a bit differently.

:15:39. > :15:42.Our real relationship is a bit warmer and it's dangerous when you

:15:43. > :15:45.fill this because we're pushing each other's buttons and niggling each

:15:46. > :15:51.other. Sometimes we have moments where we say, that's enough. You do

:15:52. > :15:55.come together on your taste in music because Steve, even though he's a

:15:56. > :16:02.bit reluctant at the beginning, loves Alanis Morrisette. The joke is

:16:03. > :16:06.that the only music we have... The iPod jack doesn't work so the only

:16:07. > :16:12.CD we have is the one that my wife has left in my bag, which is by

:16:13. > :16:17.Alanis Morrisette. So here we are, two middle aged men, listening to

:16:18. > :16:22.teenage girl thanks to. We start being very derisory about it but by

:16:23. > :16:27.the end we are getting into it. You get drawn into it. It is like a fly

:16:28. > :16:32.on the wall show but it is much more beautiful. The pacing is very

:16:33. > :16:36.different. It's very slow. Nowadays TV spoon feeds you everything. This

:16:37. > :16:41.is very slowly paced and you can immerse yourself. That's why it

:16:42. > :16:46.works. Do you put weight on because you eat a lot? In the first series,

:16:47. > :16:49.I put weight on but on this one I was much pickier. We have to eat

:16:50. > :16:55.every course three times for different camera angles. So three

:16:56. > :17:00.starters before you even have your first main. Three mains before the

:17:01. > :17:07.pudding. So when you see us go, "this pudding looks delicious, "

:17:08. > :17:13.that is award-winning acting! The Trip To Italy starts this Friday at

:17:14. > :17:20.10pm on BBC Two. You spent weeks zipping around Italy in a Mini so I

:17:21. > :17:25.guess it isn't that claustrophobic. Not with the roof down. Stunning

:17:26. > :17:30.scenery. We get down to the Amalfi Coast - I don't know if anyone has

:17:31. > :17:37.been there. It is out of this world. It is out of this world! If you get

:17:38. > :17:44.the chance to go down there, and I'll tell you for why, the roads are

:17:45. > :17:49.very winding! So the Mini was perfect because the roads are so

:17:50. > :17:54.narrow. And the Italians - here comes a stereotype - like to drive

:17:55. > :17:58.fast. We had Italian drivers taking us from location to location and

:17:59. > :18:03.somebody went from the outside lane straight across us to a slip road to

:18:04. > :18:08.get off. We shouted some Anglo-Saxon words. The Italian driver didn't bat

:18:09. > :18:13.an eyelid! We thought we'd just had a near death experience. The Mini is

:18:14. > :18:18.lovely but Matt all right prefers to drive a car you have to stop and

:18:19. > :18:23.plugged in every few miles. -- Matt Allwright.

:18:24. > :18:27.Apparently this is the future of motoring. It's a clean, green

:18:28. > :18:32.driving machine. You just plug it in and drive away. Obviously, you

:18:33. > :18:37.unplug it first because it has a short lead! There are now more than

:18:38. > :18:41.8000 charging points for electric cars across the country and with a

:18:42. > :18:47.range of over 100 miles per charge, you can use these vehicles are

:18:48. > :18:50.pretty much like a normal car. Listen! Nothing. And it's a proper

:18:51. > :18:55.car as well. But we've been here before. That's right. In fact, the

:18:56. > :19:02.first commercially available electric cars dates back to the 19th

:19:03. > :19:06.century. 1897. This man bought a fleet of electric taxis for London

:19:07. > :19:09.and he had a fleet of 75 and they were running around London but the

:19:10. > :19:13.main problem with them was that they had a range of only 30 miles and

:19:14. > :19:19.within a couple of years, petrol took over. But the electric vehicle

:19:20. > :19:22.didn't disappear altogether. In the 1960s, there were more electric

:19:23. > :19:26.vehicles on the streets of Britain that the whole of the rest of the

:19:27. > :19:32.world. The internal combustion engine ruled the world, with one big

:19:33. > :19:37.British exception! The electric milk floats, those funny things that were

:19:38. > :19:41.running around at 5am. Of course you didn't want to go to work in a milk

:19:42. > :19:45.float, unless you were a milkman because then it fits! But in 1973,

:19:46. > :19:51.it looked like the future had really arrived, in the shape of the Enfield

:19:52. > :19:56.8000, the first proper viable modern electric car. Cars like this may

:19:57. > :20:00.very well be the answer to towns and cities of the future. They make no

:20:01. > :20:04.noise and give off no unpleasant smells. John Ackroyd was part of

:20:05. > :20:11.this design team based on the Isle of Wight. How many were made in

:20:12. > :20:15.total? About 120. We tried to get something that was a very

:20:16. > :20:23.aerodynamic shape, crash will be, functional and useful. It was a

:20:24. > :20:26.proper practical little car. I think it was excellent. I really believed

:20:27. > :20:31.in it and I still do. The biggest limitation were the batteries. Great

:20:32. > :20:34.big heavy lead acid batteries. They didn't really hold enough energy to

:20:35. > :20:39.take it more than 40 miles on the flat. Do you remember that the

:20:40. > :20:46.lecture City Council bought a few of these cars? And do you remember the

:20:47. > :20:52.fact that it was on BBC News? No. Well, it was. And so were you. Look

:20:53. > :20:56.at this. We have a car that can keep up with city traffic, accelerate

:20:57. > :20:59.with it, handle with it, and yet has the comfort one has come to expect

:21:00. > :21:08.in a normal conventional car. Frightening! You haven't changed a

:21:09. > :21:13.bit! I have! I can't remember a lot. The Enfield was expensive. It cost

:21:14. > :21:17.nearly ?3000, twice as much as a Mini. And hampered by its range and

:21:18. > :21:22.performance, it never really took off. But some people did buy them.

:21:23. > :21:28.I'm sitting in a genuine Enfield 8000 and I'm not alone. Barry is the

:21:29. > :21:36.owner. Unfortunately, it needs a bit of work to get it on the road so we

:21:37. > :21:41.have to use a bit of... That. That's good. Let's dried! The good thing

:21:42. > :21:48.is, we don't need seat belts. -- let's drive. What's the driving

:21:49. > :21:54.experience like? I really enjoy it and so does my family. In the good

:21:55. > :22:01.old days, it was 1p a mile. Phenomenal! We used to charge it up

:22:02. > :22:06.through a lead coming from the window into the house. There is a

:22:07. > :22:13.big red button in the middle of the dashboard that says you should put

:22:14. > :22:17.it in an emergency. If it didn't stop, you would press the panic

:22:18. > :22:24.button and that's it. A genuine panic button? I thought it was a

:22:25. > :22:28.joke! As environmental concerns grow and petrol prices increase, the

:22:29. > :22:32.electric car may be about to enter a golden age. But predecessors like

:22:33. > :22:39.the Enfield 8000 shouldn't be forgotten. OK, they didn't catch on

:22:40. > :22:44.but, 40 years later, the people who still have one of these absolutely

:22:45. > :22:49.adore them. And I'm a bit smitten as well!

:22:50. > :22:54.I could watch that again and again. I loved the changing of the

:22:55. > :23:03.backgrounds. Was that a green screen special effect? Was at the same

:23:04. > :23:08.people who did Gravity? Anyway, when Paul O'Grady recently revealed that

:23:09. > :23:13.he'd spent ?8,000 on his dog Olga's cancer treatment, many fellow pet

:23:14. > :23:18.owners could understand. But for those who can't afford expensive vet

:23:19. > :23:22.bills, there is help out there. Owning a pet is an increasingly

:23:23. > :23:25.expensive business but here in Stoke-on-Trent, home to one of the

:23:26. > :23:32.country's biggest pet hospitals, help is at hand. The PDSA provides

:23:33. > :23:38.free pet care for those on low or no income. This four-year-old

:23:39. > :23:42.Staffordshire Labrador cross has been brought in a game by his

:23:43. > :23:47.worried owners. He was in two days previously, having been attacked by

:23:48. > :23:51.another dog, but with his wounds still heaving, he's been a victim

:23:52. > :23:56.for a second time. We were taking him for a walk and the next thing

:23:57. > :23:59.these two dogs set about him. He's still in a lot of pain and needs to

:24:00. > :24:01.be sedated. His owners will have to leave their pet in the hands of the

:24:02. > :24:12.experts. 63-year-old Graham is at the

:24:13. > :24:17.practice with his best friend Bella. Bella has already been sick and it

:24:18. > :24:23.could be that chocolate is having a harmful effect. The chocolate we

:24:24. > :24:26.enjoy contains high levels of theobromine and that's a substance

:24:27. > :24:31.that can raise the heart rate of a dog to dangerous levels. I'm just

:24:32. > :24:35.going to listen to her heart because sometimes if they teach chocolate,

:24:36. > :24:40.it stimulating the heart. -- eat chocolate. Treatment is relatively

:24:41. > :24:44.straightforward but speed is of the essence. Bella is given an injection

:24:45. > :24:49.to induce vomiting to bring up any of the chocolate that may remain in

:24:50. > :24:55.her stomach. Once that unpleasantness is over, she is fed a

:24:56. > :24:57.thick charcoal solution which calms her stomach, neutralising any

:24:58. > :25:01.remaining toxins. This might seem complex treatment for a small dog

:25:02. > :25:08.but this is a potentially fatal situation. George's existing

:25:09. > :25:12.injuries mean that assessing the extent of his new ones will be much

:25:13. > :25:17.harder and it isn't just the external damage that gives cause for

:25:18. > :25:22.concern. These attacks can leave severe internal damage. I've

:25:23. > :25:28.listened to his chest and I can hear some slightly abnormal noises. I'm

:25:29. > :25:33.going to do a chest x-ray. These abnormal sounds may mean a problem

:25:34. > :25:38.with George's lungs. A far more serious problem than his visible

:25:39. > :25:42.injuries. It can take a few days for long con choosing is to show on an

:25:43. > :25:48.x-ray but it's good that we can't see anything. -- long contributions.

:25:49. > :25:54.There are no immediate signs of injury so they can set about

:25:55. > :25:56.dressing his wounds. It's then a case of George recovering and

:25:57. > :26:02.hopefully avoiding any more scraps with other dogs. Bella is now back

:26:03. > :26:12.home and none the worse for her ordeal. When I was 61 they found out

:26:13. > :26:16.she'd got a hole in the heart. We've been having health problems. The

:26:17. > :26:21.wife decided that I needed a bit of company because I was on my own when

:26:22. > :26:28.she was out at work. The wife decided that Jack needed company. We

:26:29. > :26:33.ended up with another dog, Bella. They have been good company for me.

:26:34. > :26:36.With Easter around the corner and chocolate in abundance, it is

:26:37. > :26:41.important that dog owners understand the risks to their pets.

:26:42. > :26:47.Wonderful work they do! Isn't that great? Rob, we were just saying that

:26:48. > :26:53.you are starting a brand-new Saturday night show. Yeah, The Guess

:26:54. > :27:00.List. It's the big time, Saturday nights! Shiny floor! How does it

:27:01. > :27:06.work? It again show with two contestants trying to win a prize, a

:27:07. > :27:16.personalised price. Somebody who is a big Abbas Khan, their prize is a

:27:17. > :27:21.trip to the museum in Stockholm. -- a big ABBA fan. They have

:27:22. > :27:26.celebrities trying to help them. Here you are with Louis Smith doing

:27:27. > :27:35.a little number on the dance floor. One, two, three, four.

:27:36. > :27:40.APPLAUSE Do not patronise! I'm going to get

:27:41. > :27:45.this! Nobody puts Baby in the corner! We know that you know quite

:27:46. > :27:53.a bit about dance and a bit about food. So we've come up with a new

:27:54. > :27:59.show that we think is better than The Guess List. We're calling this

:28:00. > :28:05.Dish Or Dance. I love it already! It's well up to your normal

:28:06. > :28:12.standard! Well, it does what it says on the tin. We will hit you with an

:28:13. > :28:18.Italian term and you have to tell us whether you think it is a dish or

:28:19. > :28:26.dance. The first one is this. Crescenza. Can I hear it again,

:28:27. > :28:34.please? Crescenza. A dish or dance? Dish. You say it is a dish. It is a

:28:35. > :28:41.plate of soft cheese. Well done. Next one is a saltarello.

:28:42. > :28:47.Saltarello? Yes, saltarello. Saltarello is a dance. It is a

:28:48. > :28:54.lively 14th century folk dance! That's all we have time for. Thanks,

:28:55. > :29:00.Rob. The Guess List starts on the 12th of April on BBC One. Tomorrow,

:29:01. > :29:01.we're joined by Suranne Jones and Sandi Toksvig. See you then.