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:00:24. > :00:30.Welcome to the programme. We add joined by a Lord. A Lord Sugar of

:00:30. > :00:37.Amstrad? Posher than that. Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber? Love him but

:00:37. > :00:46.no, posher than him. On our humble sofa. How did you know? It is the

:00:46. > :00:54.creator of Downton Abbey, Lord Julian Fellowes. Everybody knows

:00:54. > :00:59.you as Julian. You will get a thick ear from Andrew for that. Your

:00:59. > :01:05.mother-in-law calls to a completely different name. I never know where

:01:05. > :01:12.you get this stuff. It is true. My mother in law wanted my wife Emma

:01:12. > :01:16.to marry a chap called Evelyn, not any one, there was a specific man.

:01:16. > :01:21.It didn't happen and she married me so my mother in law's compensation

:01:21. > :01:26.was to call me that name. Since this has been going on for 21 years

:01:26. > :01:32.I have given them, and signed things like that now. You mustn't

:01:32. > :01:38.fight beyond reasonable limits. with your mother-in-law. We will be

:01:38. > :01:47.talking about Downton Abbey later. We have got an exclusive. Matthew

:01:47. > :01:53.and Mary, will they? Figures out this week show in some parts of the

:01:53. > :02:00.UK children ready to be adopted are taking longer to be placed in

:02:00. > :02:08.families than other places. Jeanette Winterson's Burke Luke

:02:08. > :02:17.Wiwatowski title published her adopted mother as apparent. -- A

:02:17. > :02:27.title. Let me see her. God gave her to me. A you have nothing to do

:02:27. > :02:35.with God, you have a heart of stone. I said he told you to come out

:02:35. > :02:45.here? I am your real mother. She was just the carrying case that

:02:45. > :02:46.

:02:46. > :02:51.I rated because I wanted to talk about what was like growing up as

:02:51. > :02:56.an adopted child using some of my experiences -- I wrote it. 25 years

:02:56. > :03:06.after I rated I discovered some new and disturbing facts about my own

:03:06. > :03:16.

:03:16. > :03:21.Behind this front door I spent most of my child could with Mr and Mrs

:03:21. > :03:28.Winterson. I never asked her if she loved me, at the she loved me on

:03:28. > :03:32.those days when she could love me, there was the best she could do.

:03:32. > :03:38.Locked out on this doorstep I knew there was no safe place outside of

:03:38. > :03:43.myself so I had to find a safe place inside, and that is how I

:03:43. > :03:49.found the books. When my mother was angry with me, which was often, she

:03:49. > :03:53.said the devil will lead us to the wrong a crib. The image of Satan

:03:53. > :04:01.taking time off the cold war and McCarthy is and to visit Manchester,

:04:01. > :04:05.1960, purpose of visit, to deceive Mrs Winterson has a flamboyant

:04:05. > :04:11.theatricality about it. She was a flamboyant depressive, a woman who

:04:11. > :04:17.kept a revolver in the dusty drawer and the bullets in a tin of the

:04:17. > :04:21.Pledge. It is places like this way you find me in all weathers. I came

:04:21. > :04:29.up here to escape the rages and regret of my tease -- Mrs Winterson.

:04:29. > :04:33.She had adopted me but I wasn't what she wanted. You think I am not

:04:33. > :04:39.exactly the poster girl for adoption. But it was better for me

:04:39. > :04:49.to be with her, then to be in a children's home. She was a monster.

:04:49. > :04:51.

:04:51. > :04:55.After my dad died I found some old forms about my adoption. Mrs

:04:55. > :05:00.Winterson had hidden them for nearly 50 years. I decided to try

:05:00. > :05:07.and find out if my birth mother was still alive. Mrs Winterson had

:05:07. > :05:13.always said she was dead. I had been damaged, and an important part

:05:13. > :05:19.of me had been disallowed -- destroyed. That was my reality. On

:05:19. > :05:27.the other side of the facts was who I could be, how I could feel. And

:05:27. > :05:31.as long as I had words for that, in Bee Gees, stories, I wasn't lost --

:05:31. > :05:36.images. I found my biological mother and that has been a

:05:36. > :05:44.wonderful thing and a difficult thing for both of us. There is no

:05:44. > :05:48.Hollywood happy ending. But there is forgiveness. And there is love.

:05:48. > :05:52.Her experience of adoption was not an altogether happy one but there

:05:52. > :05:55.are so many positive stories out there. It is National Adoption Week

:05:55. > :06:01.and if you are thinking about adoption or fostering there is a

:06:01. > :06:06.lot of details on our website. Moving on to Sunday night

:06:06. > :06:13.television. The nation has been gripped by the Mary and Matthew

:06:13. > :06:17.story line. You can make a nation happy. What way? Not only am I not

:06:17. > :06:22.going to tell you, but if I did tell you I would ruin it for

:06:22. > :06:26.millions of people out there. They don't want me to tell you.

:06:26. > :06:30.million people are very excited about what will happen. We have got

:06:30. > :06:40.a little scene from Sunday's episode. Let's have a look at the

:06:40. > :06:40.

:06:40. > :06:50.Cousin Violet came to me and told me to marry you. When was this?

:06:50. > :06:52.

:06:52. > :06:58.a while ago. Classic granny. What did you say? I couldn't accept.

:06:58. > :07:04.Sacrifice of her life, children, future. And then give her the brush

:07:04. > :07:11.off when I was well again. I couldn't, could I? Of course not.

:07:11. > :07:19.However much I might want to. we leave it there.

:07:19. > :07:24.Little teas at the end. There is a Christmas Day special. The areas. A

:07:24. > :07:31.two hour movie to get you through the end of Christmas. Does it snow

:07:31. > :07:36.at the wedding? You really had me there. Very good. It is not going

:07:36. > :07:41.to work. It has been incredibly successful. What is the magic

:07:41. > :07:46.ingredient? You are always being wise after the

:07:46. > :07:51.event. The truth is you do not know. You make any show, like we all do,

:07:51. > :07:58.you hope it has got the right ingredients, find an audience. But

:07:58. > :08:06.with this tidal wave, obviously we have got something right. My only

:08:06. > :08:09.theory is, for what it's worth, say is that we did take a line on the

:08:09. > :08:12.groups of characters in it. If it had been made in the 50s, the

:08:12. > :08:16.family would have been very gracious, all the servants would

:08:16. > :08:21.have been funny. If it had been made in the 90s the servants would

:08:21. > :08:25.have been gallant and the family would have been horrible. But we

:08:25. > :08:29.haven't done either of those. We have a group of people who live and

:08:30. > :08:34.work under this roof, and we treat them exactly the same in terms of

:08:34. > :08:38.narrative important. The romance between Matthew and Mary, there

:08:38. > :08:44.isn't one that is more important than the other, they are equally

:08:44. > :08:50.important. And all the characters are equally important. That gives

:08:50. > :08:57.it a tub of maternity, but for a lot of people, -- a type of

:08:57. > :09:01.modernity. You have got the family of the characters, everybody else

:09:01. > :09:06.is subsidiary, there is a limit to who you can identify with. Whereas

:09:07. > :09:12.we have a broad range of people you can identify with in terms of age,

:09:12. > :09:16.Tiger, background. That is one of the things we did get right. --

:09:16. > :09:21.type of background. A lot of it is based on true fact and things that

:09:21. > :09:29.happened in history and your own family's experience. We have got

:09:29. > :09:35.this little picture of your father. The reason I was asked to bring

:09:35. > :09:40.that is because I used that moment when Robert Grantham comes out and

:09:41. > :09:45.says we are at war with Germany. That was my father's memory. He was

:09:45. > :09:53.at a garden party in Hampshire with his nurse and mother and it was his

:09:53. > :09:59.first memory. He was about two years old, the same age as there. I

:09:59. > :10:04.said, why do you think is stuck in your mind? He said, I can only

:10:05. > :10:09.suppose that the atmosphere changed so extraordinarily with all the men

:10:09. > :10:14.and women and the guests and the people serving them, it must have

:10:14. > :10:21.been so electric that even for a child you thought, that lodged in

:10:21. > :10:25.his brain. World War I, but also the Spanish flu pandemic gets to

:10:26. > :10:32.Downton Abbey on Sunday. I am not sure I am prepared to comment about

:10:32. > :10:42.that. You must be at have trained in a very soft school. One question

:10:42. > :10:43.

:10:43. > :10:52.and it all comes out? Will we need a funeral costume? Nothing. Will

:10:52. > :10:56.there be a third series? We all hope so. We hope it with a man took

:10:57. > :11:02.a degree of confidence. ITV plays its cards very close to his chest,

:11:02. > :11:09.as does the BBC. We will keep our fingers crossed.

:11:09. > :11:13.We will not pressure you any more. During her time on the programme

:11:13. > :11:18.Marina has got -- Miranda has got close to some amazing wildlife.

:11:18. > :11:22.in candour she has recently had off the coast of Cornwall has even left

:11:22. > :11:27.her speechless -- one encounter. Earlier this year I went to

:11:27. > :11:31.Falmouth to make a film about the sea life living on a sunken wreck.

:11:31. > :11:37.It is an area I have damp -- dived countless times but on this

:11:37. > :11:40.occasion something very unexpected happened. While I was talking to

:11:40. > :11:50.the camera crew it suddenly became aware we were not alone in the

:11:50. > :11:58.

:11:58. > :12:03.water. Dolphin. Where? There it is. He is so big. That is something I

:12:03. > :12:08.never expected to see. I hope you rot on the boat can hear what we

:12:08. > :12:13.are talking about because it is amazing -- you lot of. The boat

:12:13. > :12:23.team could here might excitement using the underwater communication

:12:23. > :12:25.

:12:25. > :12:32.system for top they had their That is the friendliest dolphin I

:12:32. > :12:38.have seen. I cannot stress how unusual this is. Dolphins generally

:12:39. > :12:43.do not like the bubbles from Skeeby divers. It hung around even as we

:12:43. > :12:47.were beginning hour a cent. I was starting to question why he was so

:12:48. > :12:51.interested. -- beginning hour a cent. Bottlenose dolphins are

:12:51. > :12:57.common all over the world living in large groups called iPods. The

:12:57. > :13:06.closest they normally get a to humans is when they write alongside

:13:06. > :13:14.a boat. They often sustained severe injuries. You can see the not taken

:13:14. > :13:18.out of its Fine, that could be boat damage. -- you can see the notched

:13:18. > :13:23.taken out of its finish. Such a friendly dolphins are virtually

:13:23. > :13:32.unheard of in British waters. The encounter was magical but left me

:13:32. > :13:37.with the question, why was he alone? A representative of marine

:13:37. > :13:41.corrections -- connections is an expert on solitary dolphins. It was

:13:41. > :13:45.amazing haven't it interact but why would a dolphin like that be on its

:13:45. > :13:50.own? Obviously it is a young male. They

:13:50. > :13:54.could be it has reached sexual maturity. It has left the group for

:13:54. > :14:00.breeding purposes. It could have become separated during bad weather.

:14:00. > :14:05.Really? If there it is extremely bad weather young animals can be

:14:05. > :14:11.separated. If you look at it it has got very distinct markings. They

:14:11. > :14:17.Iraq a lot of lines on it. Could that be signs of aggression --

:14:17. > :14:24.There are a lot of lines on it. is not necessarily always

:14:24. > :14:29.aggression. They tend to play fight, just like children. The thing that

:14:29. > :14:35.struck him meet is the big line that runs almost down one flank.

:14:35. > :14:39.They could be met lines. More evidence that the dolphin is too

:14:40. > :14:43.familiar with people and straying too close to boats. Worryingly

:14:43. > :14:50.since my encounter he has been spending more time with other

:14:50. > :14:55.divers in the area. What about the future? That is the million dollar

:14:55. > :15:03.question. Since Ewshot this footage it has been seen with other

:15:03. > :15:10.dolphins. -- since it you shot at this footage. It could be his

:15:10. > :15:15.mother, sister. It has been seen at socialising with another dolphin.

:15:15. > :15:20.It is great to hear he has found the company of another dolphin.

:15:20. > :15:30.Hopefully he will break his bad habit of spending time with humans

:15:30. > :15:30.

:15:30. > :15:34.What a wonderful surprise, down to film a shipwreck and a dolphin

:15:34. > :15:37.turns up. I did think, when the dolphin was in the water that the

:15:37. > :15:41.camera men were joking, but then the Dolphin did appear halfway

:15:42. > :15:45.through the diving. I was struggling to know if we were meant

:15:45. > :15:51.to film the ship record a dolphin, but luckily we got both. It was

:15:51. > :15:57.amazing. Is it right you can't see Dolphins in captivity in the UK

:15:57. > :16:01.anywhere now? It is widely accepted that keeping an animal like this in

:16:01. > :16:04.the UK is crawl. They are intelligent and they range out for

:16:04. > :16:08.thousands of miles and they are very social, so to keep them in

:16:08. > :16:13.isolation is like keeping them in a prison cell. Although that is not

:16:13. > :16:19.the same worldwide. There are some countries that have Dolphins in

:16:19. > :16:22.captivity. Has the Dolphin been spotted in France? He has been

:16:22. > :16:25.spotted in Brittany is well as the Cornish coast. He has now got

:16:26. > :16:30.friends. He has been seen interacting with other Dolphins,

:16:30. > :16:37.but not with a whole lot. somebody said there was a dolphin

:16:37. > :16:43.behind me and I saw the fame -- of the dorsal fin, I would have to get

:16:43. > :16:51.my Marine knowledge up to the top of my brain. I would be the same as

:16:51. > :16:54.you, Julian. That is definitely a possible scene for Series 3. This

:16:55. > :17:01.captivity thing, and I am sure you are right, but there are two sides

:17:02. > :17:06.to it. Most children would know nothing of the wildlife. When I

:17:06. > :17:10.take my children to the zoo, I think they have a massive role in

:17:10. > :17:17.conservation and education book with an animal like a dolphin which

:17:17. > :17:21.swims for thousands of miles, you cannot put it on its own in a box.

:17:21. > :17:25.I am much happier with things born in captivity anyway so at least

:17:25. > :17:30.they have not had to adjust the circumstance. But I think it is

:17:30. > :17:34.marvellous that they are more humane. But nevertheless I think

:17:35. > :17:41.they have a role to play. My kids would not know anything about a lot

:17:41. > :17:44.of animals if I did not take them to the zoo. Thank you, brander, and

:17:44. > :17:51.we will look forward to what she saw down their necks by -- thank

:17:51. > :17:55.you, Miranda. Today he's All Saints Day. All day! An opportunity for

:17:55. > :18:02.Sister Wendy to test the artistic knowledge of Phil Tufnell of the

:18:02. > :18:05.The Saints have always been a special source of inspiration.

:18:05. > :18:10.These are people who buy their own efforts have moved closer to the

:18:10. > :18:14.divine. So it's not surprising that they feature so strongly in the

:18:14. > :18:20.works of art here. Sister Wendy showing the three favourites.

:18:20. > :18:25.Lovely to see you again. Who is that chap there? These is St

:18:25. > :18:32.Christopher, the patron Saint of travellers. He was an imagined St,

:18:32. > :18:36.as travellers needed protectors -- needed protection and a manager and

:18:36. > :18:43.St Christopher. Sir he didn't exist? Is that true of all the

:18:43. > :18:47.Saints? Now, that is the exception. St Christopher was a giant and he

:18:47. > :18:51.felt that with his enormous stature he should have a job commensurate

:18:51. > :18:56.with that, so he travelled the world looking for a great keen to

:18:56. > :19:01.serve and could not find one. Then, when he was despairing, he met a

:19:01. > :19:07.hermit who said to him, instead of trying to find a keen to sell for

:19:07. > :19:14.your own glory, serve other people. -- aching to serve. He took a job

:19:14. > :19:17.ferrying people across the river. One-day he was asked to cross the

:19:17. > :19:25.waters, and Christopher thought that that was child's play, and as

:19:25. > :19:29.he walked the child grew up the beer and heavier. He felt as if he

:19:29. > :19:34.was carrying the world on his shoulders. The child said, yes, you

:19:34. > :19:39.are, because I am Jesus and I am carrying the world on my shoulders.

:19:39. > :19:45.And then he blessed St Christopher. And so St Christopher became a

:19:45. > :19:49.Saint. From our most painted it took most imaginary St, to another

:19:49. > :19:54.well-loved one, St Francis of Assisi. There are many paintings in

:19:54. > :19:58.here. Which one of we talking about? It is confusing because they

:19:58. > :20:04.are all of St Francis, but it is that one we are talking about.

:20:04. > :20:12.one with the birds in? Yes, but if you look lower, there will, that is

:20:12. > :20:18.the story of him talking to the birds and the fish, but this is how

:20:18. > :20:23.he dealt with the wall. That is the town it there. And those are the

:20:23. > :20:28.people who are in great distress. Because a wharf has turned up and

:20:28. > :20:36.be stealing their babies -- off. They send a message of despair to

:20:36. > :20:41.St Francis. Can you come and kill this big bad wolf? St Francis said

:20:41. > :20:46.he would not and he would have a talk to him. He summons the wolf

:20:46. > :20:52.and St Francis gives him a lecture and says he is a very bad wolf.

:20:52. > :20:57.This cannot go on. And St Francis says, listen, bad wolf, if you

:20:57. > :21:01.behave yourself, the people will feed you and you just have to be a

:21:01. > :21:09.good will. We will shake hands on that, and you could see him putting

:21:09. > :21:12.out his poor and you see it he says there will be no more trouble with

:21:12. > :21:22.the will, and there never was. the moral is, do as you would be

:21:22. > :21:23.

:21:23. > :21:30.done by. That he's exactly it. Sister Wendy's last joint, -- last

:21:30. > :21:34.choice, St Peter meet Christ. you have a St Peter and Jesus

:21:34. > :21:40.outside Rome. There was a persecution in Rome and Peter ran

:21:40. > :21:47.away. As he was heading out, he met Jesus coming in and Peter said to

:21:47. > :21:53.Jesus, where are you going? And Jesus said, I am going to Rome. I

:21:53. > :22:01.will be crucified again. They want their head of the Church to crucify

:22:01. > :22:05.me and I am stepping in and St Peter will be covered with shame.

:22:05. > :22:11.And he is sent back to Rome in time to be crucified. Looking at a

:22:11. > :22:15.painting like that, I realise how faithful one must be to what one is

:22:15. > :22:20.called to do, not run away when it's difficult. Without the

:22:20. > :22:29.painting, I might not think of that. Sister Wendy, it is always a joy to

:22:29. > :22:34.meet you and listen to you talk Always a joy, and Sister Wendy will

:22:35. > :22:38.be back in a few weeks with the story of the Nativity. Julian, as

:22:38. > :22:46.when as writing Downton Abbey, Young Victoria, Gosford Park, you

:22:46. > :22:55.have a new one on the horizon, a bigger epic, the Titanic. Exciting!

:22:55. > :23:05.Yes, an extraordinary story and when I was asked if I wanted to do

:23:05. > :23:06.

:23:06. > :23:10.this I knew that if I didn't do it then it wouldn't be me, so I had to

:23:10. > :23:18.grab it. It is a moving tale. The more you know about it, the

:23:18. > :23:24.extraordinary courage and, in many cases, human beings at their best.

:23:24. > :23:29.And we have delved into this in these four episodes, one hour each,

:23:29. > :23:37.and we take the ship down further every time. You don't have to wait

:23:37. > :23:42.on our show! Because what we do is tell these people's story and they

:23:42. > :23:47.got away all of the lifeboats and a couple of what were called collapse

:23:47. > :23:52.of balls, the extra lifeboats and they managed to get them away and

:23:52. > :23:59.with some they overturned, but were was not true on the Titanic. We go

:23:59. > :24:01.to the last boat and only then do you find that they never the less

:24:01. > :24:06.you have a mounting drama and a different perspective and how

:24:06. > :24:10.people behave. We have a mixture of real people, fictional people, of

:24:10. > :24:15.course, but what happens to the real people is what happened and

:24:15. > :24:24.the fictional people is what we make happen. And that is how we

:24:24. > :24:27.have sorted it out. Now, we are positive that matter's challenge

:24:27. > :24:37.for Children In Need will not end in disaster. But please do keep

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:24:46. > :24:49.-- full terms. All though it will be painful, it will be

:24:49. > :24:53.straightforward to get from Edinburgh to London by road, but if

:24:53. > :25:03.you wanted to walk all round hour curse like -- coastline, it is more

:25:03. > :25:06.

:25:06. > :25:11.difficult. But now there are some Ever fancied a long walk, I mean,

:25:11. > :25:14.really, really long walk? A new initiative to join up the coastal

:25:14. > :25:19.paths around England will see you down to the ground, because it will

:25:19. > :25:22.end up being 3,000 miles long -- Suji down to the ground. According

:25:22. > :25:26.to natural England, the agency behind the scheme, a third of the

:25:26. > :25:30.English coastline is an accessible. Work started here in Dorset with

:25:30. > :25:34.the aim of getting this stretch up and running ahead of next year's

:25:34. > :25:37.sailing Olympics off the coast of Weymouth. Although as the event is

:25:37. > :25:43.out at sea, you will still need a ticket to view the action on giant

:25:43. > :25:47.screens. All along the coast you have amazing stuff. Wherever you go

:25:47. > :25:51.there will be things people hold dear to them and other people want

:25:51. > :25:56.to visit them. When it was first announced, the scheme was predicted

:25:56. > :25:59.to cost �50 million and take 10 years to complete, but natural

:25:59. > :26:03.England now says the final bill will be considerably less than that,

:26:04. > :26:08.although they cannot give an accurate figure. Scotland already

:26:08. > :26:13.has the right to roam and Wales opens its coastal parts in 20th May

:26:13. > :26:19.12. Although Northern Ireland has the Causeway Coast or root, they

:26:19. > :26:25.have no plans for eight linked path. But many of the links are

:26:25. > :26:29.businesses are not happy -- linked businesses. What are your

:26:29. > :26:32.objections to opening up the coastal paths in this way? It is

:26:32. > :26:37.about the fact we have so much access. It is not about joining

:26:37. > :26:41.them up. We have over 90 % of the English coast already with access.

:26:41. > :26:45.If they were looking at filling out the gaps, that would be something

:26:45. > :26:50.we would be able to welcome, but they are not and it seems a waste

:26:50. > :26:54.of resources in the present climate. The landowners don't object so much

:26:54. > :27:00.to the idea of a path, but so called spreading room, the

:27:00. > :27:04.surrounding area which allows walkers to rest, relax and admired

:27:04. > :27:09.the fields, making it hard for landowners and farmers to use the

:27:09. > :27:13.land for commercial purposes. a path and joining it up and giving

:27:13. > :27:17.everyone access is a nice idea. It is not just about a path though, it

:27:17. > :27:21.is about an area of land going with the path which takes up the

:27:21. > :27:25.substantial area. If you look over their it takes in all that beat

:27:25. > :27:32.Hill and goes half a mile inland. That is not coastal access, it is

:27:32. > :27:35.different from that. It is not only landowners who have grievances.

:27:35. > :27:41.Some businesses believe unrestricted access could put the

:27:41. > :27:44.public in danger. Why don't you want people walking through here?

:27:44. > :27:48.We are a busy commercial port with a lot of activity going on. We

:27:48. > :27:52.don't want to bring people into that environment as keeping them

:27:52. > :27:57.safe is extremely important. not everyone is up in arms. Not

:27:57. > :28:01.surprisingly, ramblers and walkers positively welcome the project.

:28:01. > :28:11.When you look at the fantastic coastline in Dorset, it inspires

:28:11. > :28:13.

:28:13. > :28:18.you to get out. You can go out and Out of the 220 landowners, councils

:28:18. > :28:23.and businesses directly contacted by Natural England, 13 objections

:28:23. > :28:27.were raised. This means the Planning Inspectorate will now have

:28:27. > :28:33.to decide if the scheme can go ahead. The proposal for the path in

:28:33. > :28:37.Dorset could be something of a test case. Natural England says it has

:28:37. > :28:40.taken on board criticism of the plan for a continuous coastal path,

:28:40. > :28:44.but meanwhile the objectors have lodged their complaints and now it

:28:44. > :28:48.is a waiting game to see if they are upheld. But whatever happens it

:28:48. > :28:57.will be watched with keen interest, because what happens here in

:28:57. > :29:01.Weymouth could make or break the We have had lots of e-mails on the

:29:01. > :29:04.subject of adoption. Lynne Carey says they adopted two years ago and

:29:04. > :29:09.it was a hard process that extremely worthwhile and we would

:29:09. > :29:13.encourage anyone to give it a go. Milo, aged 12, said he was adopted

:29:13. > :29:17.two years ago and although it was a long time to take the people --

:29:17. > :29:23.find the right people it was not too long a time. Julie says I wish

:29:23. > :29:28.I had been featured because I hit the jackpot when I found my mum and