0:00:17 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones...
0:00:19 > 0:00:21and Amol Rajan.
0:00:21 > 0:00:28As always, tonight's show promises to be a true rollercoaster ride.
0:00:28 > 0:00:32If you're a horse, literally.
0:00:32 > 0:00:36We'll explain that later.
0:00:36 > 0:00:40So who better to have on the sofa than two quiz show veterans who must
0:00:40 > 0:00:44know a little about a lot by now, plus the man who wrote a book
0:00:44 > 0:00:45called, 'The History of the World'.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47You'd assume he knows a few things!
0:00:47 > 0:00:49Please welcome Liza Tarbuck, Victoria Coren Mitchell
0:00:49 > 0:00:49and Andrew Marr!
0:00:49 > 0:00:54CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Welcome all. This is how we're going
0:00:54 > 0:01:00to start. On Onl Connect you introduce the contestants with a
0:01:00 > 0:01:05quirky fact. We will do it with you three. If you start Victoria.You
0:01:05 > 0:01:12never want to be that quirky on Only Connect. I once won a rosette for
0:01:12 > 0:01:18Best Sponge Cake at the Clacton Arts Festival. That would be my thing.
0:01:18 > 0:01:22It's really bizarre.It's not what you would expect, it's not bizarre.
0:01:22 > 0:01:29What about you, Liza?I once built a two roomed pygmy hut out of bamboo.
0:01:29 > 0:01:39That is more bizarre.Why?Why wouldn't you, come on? To do
0:01:39 > 0:01:43prehistoric living in my own back garden. I'm interested in that.We
0:01:43 > 0:01:49would like to see a picture?I could redo it.Great. Andrew.Well, it is
0:01:49 > 0:01:53alleged that the Queen mistook me for Vladimir Putin or vice versa
0:01:53 > 0:01:57when he was over here on a state visit. They were in that open coach
0:01:57 > 0:02:03going up Bird Cage Walk, they were chatting through an interpreter and
0:02:03 > 0:02:08someone at the Palace said, what were you talking about? She said, "I
0:02:08 > 0:02:12can't quite remember, I was trying to remind myself this is the Russian
0:02:12 > 0:02:18President and not that chappie from the BBC.".Let's check this out. I
0:02:18 > 0:02:24can see it.There's a bit. No!I've got slightly less blood stained
0:02:24 > 0:02:32record!Yeah. Never worked for the KGB as far as we know.
0:02:32 > 0:02:36Later on we'll be getting all arty, as not only will we get a look
0:02:36 > 0:02:38at Andrew's latest masterpieces, but our resident artist, Adebanji,
0:02:38 > 0:02:40has been out to capture the perfect Autumn scene before
0:02:40 > 0:02:41all the leaves are gone.
0:02:41 > 0:02:43He'll be revealing his painting later.
0:02:43 > 0:02:45We'd like your help too, at the moment our Autumn gallery
0:02:45 > 0:02:50is empty and we need you to fill it.
0:02:50 > 0:02:53From beautiful Autumn landscapes, to the kids playing in mountains
0:02:53 > 0:02:55of leaves, send us your best Autumn photos, drawings and paintings
0:02:55 > 0:03:00and the stories behind them to theoneshow@bbc.co.uk.
0:03:00 > 0:03:03This has been a week of high stakes for Britain's bookies
0:03:03 > 0:03:05as they anxiously awaited news of a Government crackdown on key
0:03:05 > 0:03:07parts of their business.
0:03:07 > 0:03:09That report came out yesterday and it left open a major loophole
0:03:09 > 0:03:12in the law that lets children see gambling ads at all
0:03:12 > 0:03:13hours of the day.
0:03:13 > 0:03:19Here's Clare McDonnell with more.
0:03:19 > 0:03:25Oi!All Almost half of right. Premier League teams are now
0:03:25 > 0:03:31sponsored by a bookies. Stoke City is even owned by one. Whilst adverts
0:03:31 > 0:03:35promoting sports betting aren't shown before the 9.00pm watershed,
0:03:35 > 0:03:40there's one exception - live sport. Sglp which means on match days young
0:03:40 > 0:03:47people are being bombarded by gambling ads.This is 5 Live.As a
0:03:47 > 0:03:51journalist with a football mad family I'm concerned about the
0:03:51 > 0:03:54influence gambling firms might be having on our children, and it's not
0:03:54 > 0:03:59just me.It does bother me. Yeah. In an ideal world we wouldn't be
0:03:59 > 0:04:07sponsored by Bet 365.I don't think children growing up associate Bet
0:04:07 > 0:04:15365 with gambling you but with Stoke City Football Club.888 has fallen
0:04:15 > 0:04:19short of the law, they were fined almost £8 million for failing to
0:04:19 > 0:04:24protect vulnerable customers. Do young football fans and their
0:04:24 > 0:04:28parents realise how many ads they are exposed to and what impact that
0:04:28 > 0:04:36might be having on them? This is all about live sport. So these families
0:04:36 > 0:04:41have agreed to take part in a One Show test. They will watch today's
0:04:41 > 0:04:47big match. Our researchers will be counting up the ads during the
0:04:47 > 0:04:52commercial breaks. Marketing expert Robin Carey will conduct a simple
0:04:52 > 0:04:57post-match test to find out what effect those ads are having on the
0:04:57 > 0:05:00kids.Betting companies like to be associated with heroic activities.
0:05:00 > 0:05:05If you see a hero associated with a betting company, it's more likely
0:05:05 > 0:05:09you will be influenced to bet.We live in a society with betting shops
0:05:09 > 0:05:14on every high street. How is this any different from what is around us
0:05:14 > 0:05:19already?Because we have a room of children who would not be allowed to
0:05:19 > 0:05:28bet in a betting shop, who are being influenced by key messages, making
0:05:28 > 0:05:32young minds exposed to these from an early age. So when they are able and
0:05:32 > 0:05:36old enough to bet they will know the brands. This is about long-term
0:05:36 > 0:05:42brand development.It's not just the ads during the commercial breaks.
0:05:42 > 0:05:47From players' shirt to pitch-side hoardings and stadiums the betting
0:05:47 > 0:05:50brands are everywhere.It's a good one tonight, the top six all
0:05:50 > 0:05:55feature.We analysed this week's edition of Match of the Day, which
0:05:55 > 0:05:59of course has no commercial ad breaks and found that even then,
0:05:59 > 0:06:04during the 84 minute broadcast, a gambling logo appeared on screen 271
0:06:04 > 0:06:09times. So what does the gambling industry have to say for itself?It
0:06:09 > 0:06:13may have been the case a few years ago that all of this may have led to
0:06:13 > 0:06:17an increase in child gambling and children's interest in gambling.
0:06:17 > 0:06:22Gambling has been normalised in our society for some time. We have had
0:06:22 > 0:06:26casinos and betting shops legalised since the 60s the National Lottery
0:06:26 > 0:06:30changed the whole game. It's hard to think children wouldn't be exposed
0:06:30 > 0:06:36the key is to see when they see gambling they don't have access.
0:06:36 > 0:06:42It's full-time the guys are happy with the result, did they notice the
0:06:42 > 0:06:45number of ads shown through the breaks. There were during that
0:06:45 > 0:06:49football match nine betting adverts. Nine different betting companies in
0:06:49 > 0:06:54those adverts. It means one in six of every advert you watched was for
0:06:54 > 0:07:00a betting company. Time for Robin's test.I would like you to put in one
0:07:00 > 0:07:06word how did it make you feel when you saw those betting ads?Right,
0:07:06 > 0:07:10guys. Let us see what you wrote down. Hold them up, turn them round
0:07:10 > 0:07:16what did you have. Intrigued. Forced. And attracted. Intrigued.
0:07:16 > 0:07:22Why did you put that?Because I didn't really know what betting was.
0:07:22 > 0:07:28It made me like think about what it actually means and how you use it.
0:07:28 > 0:07:34It seems like they really want you to start betting.It attracted me to
0:07:34 > 0:07:41see how much money you could win. Australia and Belgium have announced
0:07:41 > 0:07:46plans to ban ads during live sport. A review of the gambling sector has
0:07:46 > 0:07:51been published but there is no ban on adverts. The Government says new
0:07:51 > 0:07:56advertising guidelines will be drawn up and betting firms will fund a £7
0:07:56 > 0:08:01billion responsible ad campaign. When the fun stops, stop.Is that
0:08:01 > 0:08:04enough to reassure worried parents like me?Far too many. Obviously, at
0:08:04 > 0:08:08this age, the kids don't realise, but two years down-the-line they are
0:08:08 > 0:08:12going to pick up on and they will be betting themselves.Linking gambling
0:08:12 > 0:08:18with sports. I look at sports for young people as something to enjoy.
0:08:18 > 0:08:22Lucy is here with more. We asked the Government why they didn't ban ads
0:08:22 > 0:08:28around live sports, what did they say?Yes. Hot off the press from the
0:08:28 > 0:08:34press. They said the number of gambling adverts has been in decline
0:08:34 > 0:08:40since 2013 seen by children. Any sponsorship deals involving gambling
0:08:40 > 0:08:43firms musting "socially responsible" and never target the children. There
0:08:43 > 0:08:47are organisations such as the Advertising Standards Authority who
0:08:47 > 0:08:50can take action against companies, betting firms, that don't comply
0:08:50 > 0:08:56with the rules. That was their message.Most people are worried
0:08:56 > 0:08:59about children. Seeing these adverts online. What are they doing
0:08:59 > 0:09:03specifically then to protect them? There is something to be worried
0:09:03 > 0:09:08about here. If you think that 450,000 children are gambling in
0:09:08 > 0:09:13England and Wales each week, according to statistics from the
0:09:13 > 0:09:18Gambling Commission, 6% of 11-15-year-olds have gambled online
0:09:18 > 0:09:22using their parents account and 3% used their own money. We have are
0:09:22 > 0:09:28seeing the shift on to online and smartphones which children have.
0:09:28 > 0:09:30Organisations including the Advertising Standards Authority have
0:09:30 > 0:09:34written to betting firms to remind them that gambling ads likely to
0:09:34 > 0:09:38appeal to kids online must have checks. Debit and credit cards have
0:09:38 > 0:09:45to be used to see them, infect. Announced yesterday £7 million pot
0:09:45 > 0:09:49funded by the gambling industry to pay for responsible gambling
0:09:49 > 0:09:54adverts.Right.Will it be enough, we don't know?I covered it for the
0:09:54 > 0:09:58news yesterday, one of the big areas this report looked at was fixed odd
0:09:58 > 0:10:04betting terminals, the slot machines in high street bookies. You are a
0:10:04 > 0:10:07former poker champion a game of skill. Where do you stand on the
0:10:07 > 0:10:13idea - one of Britain's most famous gamblers, where do you stand on the
0:10:13 > 0:10:18addictive stuff?They have caused terrible, terrible unhappiness and
0:10:18 > 0:10:21damage and social break down and one thing I don't want to leave without
0:10:21 > 0:10:28saying. There is talk of reducing the maximum bet.The threshold.They
0:10:28 > 0:10:33reduce it between £2 and £50. If it's £50 it's a stitch-up. Reducing
0:10:33 > 0:10:38it to £50 changes absolutely nothing at all. It's £2 or £5, it's a start.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41Problem is, there is a terrible sickness going on. The internet is
0:10:41 > 0:10:46the problem, like with everything. The internet has ruined everything.
0:10:46 > 0:10:51The high street, grocery shops, bookshops, Post Offices, human
0:10:51 > 0:10:56conversation. It's all ruined.You can order clothes straight to your
0:10:56 > 0:11:00door within 24-hours.You look terrible - not you. Betting shops
0:11:00 > 0:11:05are the same. I like betting shops. I think the relationship between
0:11:05 > 0:11:08sports and gambling is an old and traditional one. You stick something
0:11:08 > 0:11:12on a horse, that's OK. Betting shops cannot compete with the internet.
0:11:12 > 0:11:17They cannot. They are all under threat and going under. They are
0:11:17 > 0:11:20keeping themselves afloat with fix odds betting terminals. They are
0:11:20 > 0:11:24terrible. You go into the shop, people are standing there thumbing
0:11:24 > 0:11:29the money in. There is no joy. It's thelet way the betting shops can
0:11:29 > 0:11:32compete with the internet. It will be regulation of the internet.They
0:11:32 > 0:11:37are in areas which have lots of poverty and employment. Are you a
0:11:37 > 0:11:44gambler by heart?My grandparents were into horseracing. I spent my
0:11:44 > 0:11:50entire pocket money on a single outside house. Parcel Post, romped
0:11:50 > 0:11:56in at 20-1, made a lot of money. My dad said, "never again" I never
0:11:56 > 0:11:59have. I have been scared of gambling. I've an addictive
0:11:59 > 0:12:03personality. I could be drawn into gambling easily. I agree with
0:12:03 > 0:12:07Victoria, I think those machines are really, are really dangerous. It's
0:12:07 > 0:12:10an addiction along with heroin or alcohol or whatever. It's a serious
0:12:10 > 0:12:14addiction. These people are really need help. They don't need the
0:12:14 > 0:12:17machines in high streets all around the country.That is why the
0:12:17 > 0:12:20government is doing this. You had a happy gamble experience, you wonned
0:12:20 > 0:12:25and then you stopped.I stopped when I was a boy.Quit while you are
0:12:25 > 0:12:35ahead.Thank you, Lucy.
0:13:00 > 0:13:03Racehorses are taken out by riders to build up their strength and get
0:13:03 > 0:13:06them fit enough for racing.
0:13:09 > 0:13:20But this traditional method could be about to change. With this system.
0:13:20 > 0:13:24£20 million construction. The designers believe it will
0:13:24 > 0:13:31revuationise the way young racehorses are trained. It is an
0:13:31 > 0:13:34incredible piece of engineering. It's like a human roller-coaster
0:13:34 > 0:13:40ride. My concern is for the horses' safety with them being so young.
0:13:40 > 0:13:43Mrit As the muscles and bones of young racehorses are still
0:13:43 > 0:13:46developing if injured in training they may never fully recover.
0:13:46 > 0:13:54Cutting short any future racing career. Dr Robert Curtice has worked
0:13:54 > 0:13:57in bio medical engineering for three decades and helped to develop this
0:13:57 > 0:14:03system. Why was this machine built in the first place?Rather than
0:14:03 > 0:14:07weight a horse with rider and saddle. If you gently work a horse,
0:14:07 > 0:14:14it gives it time for growth, muscles to mature, the bones to mature. At
0:14:14 > 0:14:17the end you end up with a stronger, fitter animal.These are young
0:14:17 > 0:14:21horses going in there. How can you ensure they are always going to be
0:14:21 > 0:14:25kept safety?There are huge safety features. You have the emergency
0:14:25 > 0:14:32stop. You have reharness release. This is all open. They are attached
0:14:32 > 0:14:38by these clips.Yes.OK.There's also a handler here who can give
0:14:38 > 0:14:39them encouragement, check for any
0:14:44 > 0:14:48Over a circuit of three quarters of the mile horses can taken from a
0:14:48 > 0:14:54walk to a trot to canter. This former cavalry officer has taken the
0:14:54 > 0:14:58reins of operating the system. From his cabin, he goes around with the
0:14:58 > 0:15:03horses and can control the speed they go and monitor each and every
0:15:03 > 0:15:07one. They look very relaxed at the moment, but what would happen if one
0:15:07 > 0:15:12was unhappy or distressed or even sell over?If we saw something is
0:15:12 > 0:15:19wrong with one of them, we stopped the train at, we take out the horse,
0:15:19 > 0:15:24the horse goes back to the yard and we continue.The system isn't
0:15:24 > 0:15:30designed to see how fast a horse can run. It's down to the horses to
0:15:30 > 0:15:42determine the maximum speed.A maximum of 25 miles an hour... So we
0:15:42 > 0:15:46never go faster than 35 miles an hour. White matter if successful,
0:15:46 > 0:15:51what could the system mean for the men and women who'd train young
0:15:51 > 0:15:55horses the traditional way?Just down the road in Lambourn Jamie
0:15:55 > 0:16:01Osborne has seen this new technology in action. Do you think this system
0:16:01 > 0:16:08will take away jobs for your staff? No, I don't. I think generally there
0:16:08 > 0:16:13is a short of riders within the industry anyhow, so anything that
0:16:13 > 0:16:18can enable us to exercise horses without a rider is of benefit.What
0:16:18 > 0:16:23does the racehorse world make of it? I think generally horsey people are
0:16:23 > 0:16:27slow to adopt something new and it probably appears slightly unnatural
0:16:27 > 0:16:41to seek a horse in one of those pods cantering around the
0:16:50 > 0:16:53track but I think it is a safe way of exercising horses.As the
0:16:53 > 0:16:55well-being of young horses is really important, I prefer a more natural
0:16:55 > 0:16:57way of training, however the racehorse world has a different
0:16:57 > 0:16:59approach, so maybe this could be a safer way to start young racing
0:16:59 > 0:17:02horses, to build up their strength before starting their life on the
0:17:02 > 0:17:05racetrack. I have seen everything now!I wanted to see the loop the
0:17:05 > 0:17:07loop bit.And taken photo of themselves.There are only two
0:17:07 > 0:17:10quizzes on telly when people go get! If they get the answer, University
0:17:10 > 0:17:16Challenge and Only Connect. University Challenge is question and
0:17:16 > 0:17:19answer, Only Connect slightly different. In 13 series, is that
0:17:19 > 0:17:23anyone who hasn't seen it? In case there are some people, give us a
0:17:23 > 0:17:30little summary.The heart of it is what's the connection between
0:17:30 > 0:17:35apparently random things. We live in a post-truth age, is any answer
0:17:35 > 0:17:40correct any more? I feel, shows will get longer and longer. It's old
0:17:40 > 0:17:43news. Only Connect is fresh and up-to-the-minute, you find the
0:17:43 > 0:17:46connections between things and the teams have to convince me they are
0:17:46 > 0:17:50right stop or I watch a lot and I had no idea what's going on. I try
0:17:50 > 0:17:57very hard to make sense of it.You described it, in this new book is
0:17:57 > 0:18:02having a nervous disorder and wearing orthopaedic shoes.The show
0:18:02 > 0:18:07does that.What does it mean?We don't aim to be the most grammar
0:18:07 > 0:18:12show on television but we have our own kind of cool. I think the
0:18:12 > 0:18:16experience for most of our viewers, and it will be repeated in our quiz
0:18:16 > 0:18:21book because it mimics the difficulty level of the series, you
0:18:21 > 0:18:24watch the first episodes and you join in, play along and think, what
0:18:24 > 0:18:28does connect the Queen and a hatstand? The middle of the series
0:18:28 > 0:18:34gets a bit more difficult and you get one right, at the end you are
0:18:34 > 0:18:36watching the contestants in awe, like watching a horse on a
0:18:36 > 0:18:40roller-coaster. When I watch it on television, I can't get it right
0:18:40 > 0:18:45either, and I was there when we recorded it.Who are these people?
0:18:45 > 0:18:50What sort of person makes a good contestant on Only Connect?A clever
0:18:50 > 0:18:54one, presumably!It's not so much about being clever as having the
0:18:54 > 0:19:00right sort of mind, balancing and intellectual curiosity about the
0:19:00 > 0:19:05world. You have to notice things. We once had famously a really brilliant
0:19:05 > 0:19:10team of people. They knew absolutely everything. And we had a group of
0:19:10 > 0:19:18four things, what connects Malik, pain... I can remember, they were
0:19:18 > 0:19:24thinking, and they philosophers, great playwrights...? They had no
0:19:24 > 0:19:32idea, they were simply the members of One Direction. The perfect sort
0:19:32 > 0:19:38of person is interested in everything.You called weedy,
0:19:38 > 0:19:43awkward, unconventional.These compliments from the! No higher
0:19:43 > 0:19:48compliment I can pay. It's different from the sort of television where
0:19:48 > 0:19:54everyone is, they have a fate tan, hair and nails. I have those things,
0:19:54 > 0:19:57but our teams, they come along and their priorities are different.
0:19:57 > 0:20:02They've chosen a nice jumper, if it's not clean, that's not what's
0:20:02 > 0:20:05important! They're clever, brilliant, interesting, have
0:20:05 > 0:20:09eclectic taste and they are the future of the planet.Lets see if
0:20:09 > 0:20:13they have chosen a nice jumper for tonight because lots of them are in
0:20:13 > 0:20:17our audience. Where are you? I thought it was you lot.I thought
0:20:17 > 0:20:24they were suspicious.Do you think that is fair, we'd eat,
0:20:24 > 0:20:30unconventional?When I have it at home, I freeze it at the wall and
0:20:30 > 0:20:38give myself a little longer but it is enjoyable.I'd like to say, some
0:20:38 > 0:20:42of our quizzers are in the audience but I hope they would agree, a key
0:20:42 > 0:20:46thing about our show is the teams are absolutely in on the joke. I am
0:20:46 > 0:20:51not the sort of quiz show host who comes in, sees them for the first
0:20:51 > 0:20:55time, asks them a question and then sneers at them. We are all on the
0:20:55 > 0:21:01same side. It's a bit like I'm sorry I haven't a clue. They used to be
0:21:01 > 0:21:07very rude about the teams but they know I love and admire them.I don't
0:21:07 > 0:21:10believe you. I'd seen evidence, apart from what you said in the last
0:21:10 > 0:21:14five minutes, you are quite a brutal quiz show host. Typically brutal to
0:21:14 > 0:21:17the people you know pretty well. Here's an example chosen completely
0:21:17 > 0:21:25at random.Comedian, writer and one half of Mitchell and Webb, David
0:21:25 > 0:21:33Mitchell is known for living a sexless existence... He was happier
0:21:33 > 0:21:38when he was single.What did it do for your marriage, public surely
0:21:38 > 0:21:42shaming your husband like that? Doesn't he look handsome... No one
0:21:42 > 0:21:46wants to hear that! They love it, they love the brutality. If David
0:21:46 > 0:21:50didn't like that kind of thing he would have married someone else. He
0:21:50 > 0:21:56is brilliant. On that episode he came on a charity special and to
0:21:56 > 0:22:02this day he said he didn't get an answer about spoonerisms. You can
0:22:02 > 0:22:08everything in the world but your mind doesn't go to the right place.
0:22:08 > 0:22:12He still wakes up in the night shouting with horror. It might be
0:22:12 > 0:22:16for other reasons...We're going to play some Only Connect throughout
0:22:16 > 0:22:19the course of the evening. The idea is its relatively simple and that
0:22:19 > 0:22:23through each round at least one of you should get the answer. Does that
0:22:23 > 0:22:29make sense?We will see.It will become clear.What connects these
0:22:29 > 0:22:32people... It's a game, you have to say next each time you want the next
0:22:32 > 0:22:42clue.
0:22:45 > 0:22:48Here is the first one. This is Jimmy Tarbuck. What comes to mind?
0:22:48 > 0:22:50Anything?Where is he?On that screen over there. Do you want the
0:22:50 > 0:22:53next clue?Had to make a connection. That is Sir Roger Moore.They both
0:22:53 > 0:22:56have a restaurant on the Keynes Road.Good guess, anything else? Got
0:22:56 > 0:23:01a hurry you.No idea at all.I'm terrible at this show!Next clue,
0:23:01 > 0:23:10Des O'Connor. Jimmy Tarbuck, Sir Roger Moore, has O'Connor. What
0:23:10 > 0:23:18connects these men?Generation game? I would like to deconstruct this, so
0:23:18 > 0:23:24many things can these people.Give us the answer.Hosted quiz shows?
0:23:24 > 0:23:30They were all compared that the Saturday night Palladium.If I was
0:23:30 > 0:23:36on the show and said they all hosted quiz shows.Technically you would be
0:23:36 > 0:23:42right.And they are all men!There's a surprise!You will like the next
0:23:42 > 0:23:44round.
0:23:45 > 0:23:47Being part of a family means having to cope
0:23:47 > 0:23:50with whatever life throws at you, and the Bertie family -
0:23:50 > 0:23:52and their son Alex - have certainly had to do that.
0:23:52 > 0:23:55Here's how they've spent the past few years getting to know each
0:23:55 > 0:23:56other all over again.
0:23:56 > 0:24:02My name's Alex, 21, I do graphic design I like video games, pugs and
0:24:02 > 0:24:06I sleep with my socks on. I live in Dorset with my dad Paul, my mum
0:24:06 > 0:24:10Michelle and sister Hollie. As a teenager I was really uncomfortable
0:24:10 > 0:24:14with my body. I was bullied pretty badly at school and it made me
0:24:14 > 0:24:17really unhappy. They picked on me because I was different. I haven't
0:24:17 > 0:24:24always been called Alex. As a child, I had a different name. I was born
0:24:24 > 0:24:30female. And when I hit puberty, I was developing breasts and my period
0:24:30 > 0:24:35started and it wasn't a good time. I realised I was meant to be a boy. At
0:24:35 > 0:24:40first I didn't know there was a name for what I was experiencing, so I
0:24:40 > 0:24:44reached out to professionals. They explained that I might be a boy
0:24:44 > 0:24:49trapped in a girl's body. To be honest, from then on it completely
0:24:49 > 0:25:00clicked, that was
0:25:02 > 0:25:04exactly how I felt.When Alex was probably about 13, we started to
0:25:04 > 0:25:07notice that he stayed in his room for long periods of time, wouldn't
0:25:07 > 0:25:10eat and we couldn't work out why he was so unhappy.Alex's bullying at
0:25:10 > 0:25:13school was down to him looking like a boy. He wanted to dress like a boy
0:25:13 > 0:25:16and do the things boys want to do. He had very, very long blonde hair.
0:25:16 > 0:25:20He wanted to get it cut, so begrudgingly we said yeah, yeah,
0:25:20 > 0:25:25have it cut.After the cut, I felt amazing. It was the first time I
0:25:25 > 0:25:30looked in the mirror and saw myself. People saw me as the girl with the
0:25:30 > 0:25:36boy haircut but I was happy being a boy. I started blogging on YouTube.
0:25:36 > 0:25:39I'll be honest, I was very much not happy about it, he was leaving
0:25:39 > 0:25:44himself open and exposed to everything cascading from this.You
0:25:44 > 0:25:49know, it does hurt seeing beauty and everyone else by yourself.Some of
0:25:49 > 0:25:54those videos break my heart. I've seen a few, I sit and cry.I find it
0:25:54 > 0:26:02really difficult to be myself with my family pretty much.Stupid child!
0:26:02 > 0:26:07He looks so unhappy, doesn't he?You hear the break in his voice all the
0:26:07 > 0:26:12time in the early years.You can almost see in his face how he's
0:26:12 > 0:26:18suffering inside.Living with the pain.The questioning of my gender
0:26:18 > 0:26:22phase took a long time for me to get comfortable, thinking of myself in
0:26:22 > 0:26:26that way and looking to the future and seeing myself as a man. But when
0:26:26 > 0:26:31I finally accepted that, I decided to come out to my parents. I just
0:26:31 > 0:26:35remember being terrified. I have felt like that as long as I
0:26:35 > 0:26:39remember. I came out last week. My mum's reaction was really
0:26:39 > 0:26:43surprising. She was so lovely and she actually said she kind of in a
0:26:43 > 0:26:48way already knew. My dad, however, we didn't really speak about it for
0:26:48 > 0:26:52a very long time. At this point I'd actually decided on a new name for
0:26:52 > 0:27:00myself. I want to be Alex Bertie, I want to be their son. I'm
0:27:00 > 0:27:04transgender, I don't need help, I need to understand and -- and for
0:27:04 > 0:27:12who I am.Oooh! That was the start of the lot of change.They saw me at
0:27:12 > 0:27:15my lowest and started to appreciate how vital having hormones and
0:27:15 > 0:27:19getting surgery was for me. For a very long time my parents did not
0:27:19 > 0:27:24use the right name, they did not use the right pronouns, it was a very
0:27:24 > 0:27:28slow process.That was the biggest process for me, I've always said she
0:27:28 > 0:27:33and used the birth name. The 13 or 14 years. I've said one name, and
0:27:33 > 0:27:37then all of a sudden, I found it a bit difficult. It was more of a
0:27:37 > 0:27:42habit than anything else. In the beginning I was very angry. I
0:27:42 > 0:27:45was full of resentment, but over time I did gain an understanding of
0:27:45 > 0:27:49yeah, this must be really difficult, they've know me as this their whole
0:27:49 > 0:27:53lives. My parents actually got married about eight months ago.I
0:27:53 > 0:27:58just popped the question one day, I thought it was about time.
0:27:58 > 0:28:01Amazingly, my dad asked me if I wanted to be his best man, which was
0:28:01 > 0:28:07crazy.He was here the person I wanted to be my best man.They wore
0:28:07 > 0:28:11a suit and tails which was cool. I walked in and saw the more standing
0:28:11 > 0:28:16there and thought, oh my god!Yeah, very proud.
0:28:16 > 0:28:19My parents are absolutely wonderful now. I couldn't ask for better
0:28:19 > 0:28:23family. I finally feel like the man I was supposed to be. I finally feel
0:28:23 > 0:28:25like me.
0:28:25 > 0:28:28And Alex is here, along with mum Michelle and sister Hollie.
0:28:28 > 0:28:34Let's give them a massive welcome. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:28:37 > 0:28:44Are you OK, Michelle?Yes.Watching that, listening to the lovely things
0:28:44 > 0:28:50Alex said.Did you ever think you would be talking so publicly, in
0:28:50 > 0:28:55front of millions of people, about your experience?Definitely not, I'm
0:28:55 > 0:28:58a complete introvert, social outcast, whatever you call it. This
0:28:58 > 0:29:01isn't me and it's only since figuring out my gender I've been
0:29:01 > 0:29:06comfortable. I'm just so proud of who I am and everything I've done.I
0:29:06 > 0:29:10have to say, you don't come across as particularly shy. You come across
0:29:10 > 0:29:16as someone very composed, tattooed on your arms, slightly surprising to
0:29:16 > 0:29:21hear you describe yourself as an introvert.Definitely not.You have
0:29:21 > 0:29:24been through a lot. It was mentioned in the film Michelle, how you and
0:29:24 > 0:29:29your husband had very different reactions initially. How do you as a
0:29:29 > 0:29:34married couple, who were married then, but how do you have a couple,
0:29:34 > 0:29:39parents, reconcile that and find a way of dealing with it?
0:29:39 > 0:29:43We spent a lot of time talking to each other, talking to Alex, talking
0:29:43 > 0:29:47to Hollie. Everybody has their own opinions on different things and
0:29:47 > 0:29:52different visions for the future for their children. Luckily, Paul and I
0:29:52 > 0:29:57have a firm belief that we want our children to do well for themselves,
0:29:57 > 0:30:01be happy within themselves, work hard, be compassionate and caring to
0:30:01 > 0:30:08other people, have respect for themselves and other people. That is
0:30:08 > 0:30:13the more ales we have. If you don't understand those boundaries we are
0:30:13 > 0:30:19flexible on things.You can find a way.Alex hasn't done anything
0:30:19 > 0:30:24wrong. He is being himself. Paul and I spoke about how we would handle
0:30:24 > 0:30:27different situations, for example, changing name, operations, you know,
0:30:27 > 0:30:32how we are going to deal with that. We decided that we need to support
0:30:32 > 0:30:35Alex in that.It's clear you are a strong and remarkable family,
0:30:35 > 0:30:39talking to you. You are 15 Hollie, how did you find the change from
0:30:39 > 0:30:47having a sister to a brother?I was so happy that he was so proud of
0:30:47 > 0:30:52himself at certain times. It was very confusing at first because I
0:30:52 > 0:30:55was very young at the time. I got angry when people used to
0:30:55 > 0:30:59comment on things about Alex to myself. But overall I'm really proud
0:30:59 > 0:31:04of him.I'm sure he's proud of you, too.You carried on doing the
0:31:04 > 0:31:07videos. You have written a book, it's out
0:31:07 > 0:31:13tomorrow. A brilliant title Transmission: My Quest to a Beard.
0:31:13 > 0:31:18How do you hope that the book is going to help others maybe in the
0:31:18 > 0:31:26same situation?I hope they read it and gain something from it. It's so
0:31:26 > 0:31:29hard to find information out there and I hope it's genuine and
0:31:29 > 0:31:35everything they need. I hope it helps parents and families. Teachers
0:31:35 > 0:31:41can get something from it. Yeah. It's an insight - we're a normal,
0:31:41 > 0:31:49every day working family. It's an insight to one person and their
0:31:49 > 0:31:53family's journey. It's a very long Some people say journey.Children
0:31:53 > 0:31:58can't understand this stuff when they are at the age Alex was at when
0:31:58 > 0:32:01he confronted these issues. What would you say to parents who are
0:32:01 > 0:32:06going through the same things. What is your advice?My advice is to
0:32:06 > 0:32:10listen and talk. It isn't about sitting down and having the
0:32:10 > 0:32:13conversation, it's about the arguments, the door slammingened and
0:32:13 > 0:32:17the walking off, the fights and listen and understanding why they
0:32:17 > 0:32:21are feeling that way. They won't turn around and say - I'm trans,
0:32:21 > 0:32:28getter. It they will be confused. They may come out at Lees been. Or
0:32:28 > 0:32:32not sure about what clothes to wear. I don't want to wear those clothes.
0:32:32 > 0:32:37Have you to pinpoint the little bits and just chip away at it together.
0:32:37 > 0:32:43You have been an on amazing journey. Congratulations on the book. Let's
0:32:43 > 0:32:47have a round of applause. APPLAUSE
0:32:47 > 0:32:54Thank you so much for coming in.We would like to thank everybody who
0:32:54 > 0:32:57has given us support, our family, friends and our colleagues.
0:32:57 > 0:33:01Everybody. We are all touched.I'm sure they are all watching tonight.
0:33:08 > 0:33:13Two of our guests are married to the same man.Maybe he you were ahead of
0:33:13 > 0:33:16your time trying to invent the musical.You are probably right,
0:33:16 > 0:33:22wife. It was fun for a night. People gathering together, waving their
0:33:22 > 0:33:28arms in the air. Having a joyful night out.What's wrong with that? I
0:33:28 > 0:33:32hope London will be full of theatres and they'll all have musicals in
0:33:32 > 0:33:39them.It's a joyful dream.Or a living nightmare!
0:33:40 > 0:33:43Go APPLAUSE
0:33:49 > 0:33:59How much research did you do before playing Anne Hathaway?It's a cent I
0:33:59 > 0:34:03find interesting. As a woman in the 15th century you didn't stop. In
0:34:03 > 0:34:07many ways I can take care of things like action. You can't take care of
0:34:07 > 0:34:11the words because they were already written for you. Within all of that
0:34:11 > 0:34:15I can make sure I'm busy doing things that would need to be done
0:34:15 > 0:34:19running a household of a minimum seven. Basically, you have no help,
0:34:19 > 0:34:25do you? Or she doesn't. No, poor cow!Her brain must be a wreck. Like
0:34:25 > 0:34:31in your book. There is a bit of everything.Yeah. Your new book, I
0:34:31 > 0:34:35An Distracted by Everything. Have you got a copy of the book.In a
0:34:35 > 0:34:39second. It's on the floor, they tell us. I can see it. I will have to go
0:34:39 > 0:34:42and get this.
0:34:45 > 0:34:49I'm coming back this way so as not to crawl over the furniture.Thank
0:34:49 > 0:34:53you.This is an annual for grown-ups.Yes, it is.It has all
0:34:53 > 0:34:58sorts of things in it. It's harded to know where to begin to describe
0:34:58 > 0:35:05it.When I was younger I was a fan of the annual once you did the
0:35:05 > 0:35:08puzzles and learnt something new or did a bit of crafting you could put
0:35:08 > 0:35:11the book away and come back to it and everything looked different or
0:35:11 > 0:35:15you couldn't remember. I kind of wanted a book that when you opened
0:35:15 > 0:35:20it, you kept having to do that with it. So you never finish it. It's
0:35:20 > 0:35:24about using your mind. There's not computer links or anything like that
0:35:24 > 0:35:31in it.It's completely bonkers though.In a good way?A page that
0:35:31 > 0:35:36caught my attention. I used to be a Trekkie, I with us.
0:35:36 > 0:35:45With aed Star Trek - then you have this dress up. You have naked
0:35:45 > 0:35:53picture of William -It's a Dress Up Doll.It would be Kofi Annanual.
0:35:53 > 0:36:09What is this madness?You can create his outfit.Oh.That has been done
0:36:09 > 0:36:15by a woman I've known for five. As a Monty Python person, possibly as a
0:36:15 > 0:36:19Only Connect person, I find it quite hard to fit into somebody's idea of
0:36:19 > 0:36:25what I should be. As a consequence I've written that book to display
0:36:25 > 0:36:28the things I'm interested in and hopefully hook you into it as well.
0:36:28 > 0:36:35It says what you love and you encourage the reader -It's funny.
0:36:35 > 0:36:43Nice to have an activity book as an adult.Move on.I saw it a second
0:36:43 > 0:36:54ago. How can I describe it, it's Bary Merry. A recipe -Delicious
0:36:54 > 0:37:00looking recipe, I'm sure you will agree.Hang on a minute.Here's one
0:37:00 > 0:37:11we made earlier.That is thanks to my sister who Dame came up with the
0:37:11 > 0:37:15idea. She is a cracking cook my sister. She wanted to make a cake
0:37:15 > 0:37:20without baking it that somebody said - we will be round in 20 minutes. I
0:37:20 > 0:37:25will do that.Wind back a second. Where do you get the ideas for this
0:37:25 > 0:37:31stuff? When is it going through your mind?Welcome to my world.Your
0:37:31 > 0:37:36brain is a mad That sounds negative place.. My brain is fantastic and
0:37:36 > 0:37:41gorgeous.The cakes you come up with.I blame my sister for that
0:37:41 > 0:37:48one.Victoria Andalcio rue what distracts your mind mostly. In
0:37:48 > 0:37:51Liza's shoes, you are writing this book, what would be in it, Andrew?
0:37:51 > 0:37:56IsI'm boring, like the rest of the country, I'm distracted by my phone
0:37:56 > 0:38:00the whole time, little peeps and news flashes and this a and that. We
0:38:00 > 0:38:03lost a Cabinet Minister tonight, for instance. Apparently. The first
0:38:03 > 0:38:13victim of that scandal going on. I won't go further in case I'm wrong!
0:38:13 > 0:38:18I'm reading a book, I think all of us are being distracted too much. I
0:38:18 > 0:38:23agree with Victoria that the internet has destroyed almost
0:38:23 > 0:38:30everything about our civilise -You are addicted to your phone.I am.
0:38:30 > 0:38:36The intro to you is you on your phone.Absolutely.I'm in paces
0:38:36 > 0:38:40after that amazing young man who came on. What an incredible person.
0:38:40 > 0:38:44You were crying.It was trivial and pointless, I can't tell you. What
0:38:44 > 0:38:52will distract me is why I've never thought to turn a swiss roll into a
0:38:52 > 0:38:57dog.I'm thrilled to realise how easy it is to stick chocolate on to
0:38:57 > 0:39:02things. It thrilled me that.We will all be trying it.You will be a foot
0:39:02 > 0:39:10fool not. ToI would like to turn a dog into a swiss roll. Would that be
0:39:10 > 0:39:16unethical?It would.Where do I look. I'm an old woman.It's
0:39:16 > 0:39:25Andrew's round. There is a picture of... You.Do you recognise him?
0:39:25 > 0:39:32That's definitely me. Go Very handsome. Sir Elton John.Is there a
0:39:32 > 0:39:38piano connection, are a pianist?I'm not.Do you spend £100,000 on
0:39:38 > 0:39:45flowers.I don't.Do you know Bernie.I know where you you are
0:39:45 > 0:39:51going.Yellow Brick I had the road. Yellow Brick Road when it first came
0:39:51 > 0:39:59out.The next one, Bono. Andrew can you tell the connection?The G20,
0:39:59 > 0:40:04it's the African campaign where I interviewed both Elton John and Bono
0:40:04 > 0:40:08about their involvement in Africa. You show off. That's a fantastic
0:40:08 > 0:40:14answer, but it's wrong!It's a better answer.It's a true answer.
0:40:14 > 0:40:21This is the last one. Amol.We have all edited the Independent.That's
0:40:21 > 0:40:29it.You actually got it. I was standing oen the shoulders of giant.
0:40:29 > 0:40:33You were so competing in the Fleet Street days you would dismantel a
0:40:33 > 0:40:39phone -No, this is fake news.Come on? IsFalse news. It's Donald Trump
0:40:39 > 0:40:44false news. This is for younger are people watching. In the days before
0:40:44 > 0:40:47mobile phones existed we had things called telephone boxes. When you
0:40:47 > 0:40:50were a young reporter going out to cover a crime or a murder or
0:40:50 > 0:40:53whatever, one of the things you had to do is to ensure you got the
0:40:53 > 0:40:59information back to your newspaper office before your rivals did. So at
0:40:59 > 0:41:05journalism training school we were given screw drivers and told how to
0:41:05 > 0:41:09remove the voice box so you could use them. We could vandalise all the
0:41:09 > 0:41:17public phones. Go into the pub and play the publican to put an Out of
0:41:17 > 0:41:21Order sign on his phone.We shouldn't be promoting this.I never
0:41:21 > 0:41:27did it myself. Shortly afterwards the mobile phone arrived. So it was
0:41:27 > 0:41:28completely pointless.
0:41:35 > 0:41:36From gambling to another habit that sees plenty
0:41:36 > 0:41:38of money going up in smoke.
0:41:38 > 0:41:40Despite health experts being divided on its safety,
0:41:40 > 0:41:42vaping is big business, something Matt Allwright found
0:41:42 > 0:41:46out at Europe's biggest vaping expo in Birmingham.
0:41:46 > 0:41:46No vaping expo in Birmingham.
0:41:46 > 0:41:46No vaping vaping expo in Birmingham.
0:41:46 > 0:41:46No vaping here, vaping expo in Birmingham.
0:41:46 > 0:41:46No vaping here, nothing vaping expo in Birmingham.
0:41:46 > 0:41:46No vaping here, nothing but vaping expo in Birmingham.
0:41:46 > 0:41:47No vaping here, nothing but raining vaping expo in Birmingham.
0:41:47 > 0:41:50No vaping here, nothing but raining here. I'm at the NEC in Birmingham
0:41:50 > 0:41:54for vaping expo 2017. In here, vaping is very much allowed and very
0:41:54 > 0:42:00much on the up. It's why I've come to check how this industry intends
0:42:00 > 0:42:07to make more money from these. I've not been in in a smoking environment
0:42:07 > 0:42:11indoors since about 2006, I'd say. This is very different to your
0:42:11 > 0:42:17old-style pub because I'm being hit by different smells coming in.
0:42:17 > 0:42:26Butter scotch. Candy floss. It's all around us.Wipe out, lush. All
0:42:26 > 0:42:30associated with Cornwall.Last year it was about ice-creams and
0:42:30 > 0:42:38doughnuts. It goes in patterns and waves.The world's first rain
0:42:38 > 0:42:42jukebox. 20 different flavours, you can rye try them by pressing a
0:42:42 > 0:42:50button. Nice. A whole new industry is taking off, it's still in its
0:42:50 > 0:42:57infancy and what you are seeing here is a raining goldrush.These are nic
0:42:57 > 0:43:05salts. Short for nicotine salts. They are nicotine 2.0. This is
0:43:05 > 0:43:09really targeted for the cigarette smoker to help him get off the
0:43:09 > 0:43:13cigarettes.Others are concerned that all these colours, flavours and
0:43:13 > 0:43:21branding will draw non-spoke smokers into the scene, leading to nicotine
0:43:21 > 0:43:24addiction. You won't hear that here. There is a community around vaping.
0:43:24 > 0:43:30Some people who just started feel a little bit, you know, outside. They
0:43:30 > 0:43:34are welcoming. The community is open to everybody. We have a common
0:43:34 > 0:43:38interest, we quit smoking, now we rain.It started out as a way to
0:43:38 > 0:43:48stop smoking is it as complex as this?No, if you are in a smoking
0:43:48 > 0:43:52area o outside somewhere else and they are vaping. Talk to them you
0:43:52 > 0:43:57ask them about their gries device what liquids they are using. People
0:43:57 > 0:44:01feel they can socialise with other rainers.It seems like people are
0:44:01 > 0:44:06going to great lengths to differentiate themselves from one
0:44:06 > 0:44:10brand, favour from another. This local entrepreneur hopes to hit the
0:44:10 > 0:44:15big time, I'm a little confused. Explain to me the link between
0:44:15 > 0:44:21Dinnerladies, the name of your company, and vaping, I don't get it?
0:44:21 > 0:44:25We went down the nostalgic route. If you think about the dinner lady you
0:44:25 > 0:44:30instantly - it puts a smile on your face. We wanted something
0:44:30 > 0:44:35interactive, fun, vibrant, dynamic. Even the way we do our boooths, you
0:44:35 > 0:44:39don't stand behind a counter, it's engage with us.Why did you get
0:44:39 > 0:44:42involved in this industry in the first place?In any new industry
0:44:42 > 0:44:47there will be opportunities. It was fragmented. It still is. At the same
0:44:47 > 0:44:52time, raining is a phenomenon and you know it's there to compete with
0:44:52 > 0:44:57big tobacco.You can't help noticing there are lots of small producers
0:44:57 > 0:45:00and manufacturers out there trying to make a name for themselves. What
0:45:00 > 0:45:07will happen next?Sadly, I feel a time will come when this vape cult
0:45:07 > 0:45:12following is going to slowly come to a halt and it's just going to open
0:45:12 > 0:45:16up to the mass-market. Brands like Dinner Lady are aiming and gearing
0:45:16 > 0:45:17for that particular market.
0:45:20 > 0:45:30Nice.You've been vaping too much! It sounds like I've been vaping, I
0:45:30 > 0:45:36haven't.Are you all right? I will have some water. Andrew, a former
0:45:36 > 0:45:41smoker, what do you think?40 years ago since I've had a cigarette. I'm
0:45:41 > 0:45:47a very old man! Vaping, as I understand it, vaping is an
0:45:47 > 0:45:51alternative to cigarettes which doesn't have the same health
0:45:51 > 0:45:54disaster cigarettes does, so if it attracts people away from smoking it
0:45:54 > 0:45:59is an entirely good thing. For myself, I won't be entirely infused
0:45:59 > 0:46:03until I have a mutton pie flavoured vape.We are sitting in an
0:46:03 > 0:46:09exhibition of your paintings. Fantastic looking works. Is it fair
0:46:09 > 0:46:14to say, you had a stroke, lots of people know about, did your style of
0:46:14 > 0:46:18painting change fundamentally after the stroke?Completely. Before the
0:46:18 > 0:46:24stroke I would go out and do traditional landscapes outside with
0:46:24 > 0:46:28an easel.Beautiful work.I would trudge up the hill with the easel
0:46:28 > 0:46:31and paint. Because I am semi-paralysed on the left-hand
0:46:31 > 0:46:36side, I can't do that any more. If the wind comes and blows the campus
0:46:36 > 0:46:40over, I'm scuppered. I have to paint inside. I'm not interested in doing
0:46:40 > 0:46:47nudes all roses go -- so it led me to doing abstract, of stuff in a
0:46:47 > 0:46:53completely different way.You have a lovely book out, A Short Book About
0:46:53 > 0:46:58Painting. You almost called it hard not to paint. It's all about
0:46:58 > 0:47:02embracing the failures as an artist. Absolutely. If you go into an art
0:47:02 > 0:47:05gallery and you see all these paintings people have produced, you
0:47:05 > 0:47:08have a sense they were always going to be like that and that is not what
0:47:08 > 0:47:12painting feels like. For most painters, you start off, you make
0:47:12 > 0:47:16mistakes, you try to correct the mistake. The mistake is more hideous
0:47:16 > 0:47:21and on and on it goes until things fall into place finally. It is
0:47:21 > 0:47:24mistake after mistake after mistake. I haven't read a book about that
0:47:24 > 0:47:31title I would like to write book which honestly shows how a painting
0:47:31 > 0:47:33is created. I've got lots of examples in the book of paintings
0:47:33 > 0:47:39that went wrong and how... And then came good. What does it mean for a
0:47:39 > 0:47:43painting to go wrong and then come good? That's what it was about.You
0:47:43 > 0:47:48wanted to be an artist, Liza?I knew where I wanted to go but might
0:47:48 > 0:47:52sister chose to do it so I did drama. She went to Chelsea and I
0:47:52 > 0:47:59went to RADA.Do you still paint? Yes, I paint and draw. I did a lot
0:47:59 > 0:48:07of illustrations in my book.Those? The three illustrations. The big
0:48:07 > 0:48:13ones! Blimey, leave it to the pros. Are you offended you have Liza's
0:48:13 > 0:48:19book and Andropov MacBook but not the Only Connect book? Is it for an
0:48:19 > 0:48:23away the best? -- and Andrew's book. You talk about why a painter
0:48:23 > 0:48:26shouldn't be afraid of a blank canvas and should embrace it and
0:48:26 > 0:48:29that is what other painters have done through the ages, what do you
0:48:29 > 0:48:35mean?If you go to a studio, a great big blank canvas, what is the first
0:48:35 > 0:48:40thing you are going to do? What is the first mark you are going to
0:48:40 > 0:48:43make? Remember, it's probably going to be a mistake. What's the first
0:48:43 > 0:48:47colour? I think a lot of people are frightened of the blank piece of
0:48:47 > 0:48:50paper, the blank canvas. Once you get going, you're in the mode, you
0:48:50 > 0:48:53move forward and is less frightening. When you first come
0:48:53 > 0:49:01in... When I wake up in the morning I have an idea for a picture and I
0:49:01 > 0:49:05try to make it. I have no clear in my head about what I want to do but
0:49:05 > 0:49:07that first moment of taking up a piece of charcoal or a pencil
0:49:07 > 0:49:10awesome colour and putting it on the campus is scary.Do you listen to
0:49:10 > 0:49:14music when you paint? Reed very really. Often I would listen to it
0:49:14 > 0:49:20but I wasn't hearing it.It was a waste of music!LAUGHTER
0:49:20 > 0:49:24I'm interested. You said you changed your style completely after the
0:49:24 > 0:49:28stroke, was it totally practical about trudging up the hill? Or the
0:49:28 > 0:49:33visions of your mind have changed? No. Well spotted, I was telling a
0:49:33 > 0:49:37lie. I have always wanted to paint this way. Beforehand, like Liza, I
0:49:37 > 0:49:40haven't been to art college, I thought I would be good enough,
0:49:40 > 0:49:44people will laugh at me, they won't sell, they'll be disgraceful.
0:49:44 > 0:49:48Therefore I won't do it. But after the stroke you realise life is
0:49:48 > 0:49:52short, you could go at any minute, what a waste not to paint in the way
0:49:52 > 0:49:56you've always wanted to.Exactly do you have exhibited and and
0:49:56 > 0:50:02successfully selling patenting is which you didn't think he would do
0:50:02 > 0:50:05as the editor of the Independent.We had a lovely show in Liverpool in
0:50:05 > 0:50:09the summer and one in Bermondsey. This one was for the Bermondsey
0:50:09 > 0:50:14Shope, a bit sticky.This one definitely sticky.I didn't like it
0:50:14 > 0:50:19when it went up and I thought I'd repaint it.Remarkable.
0:50:19 > 0:50:21Let's play a final round of Only Connect,
0:50:21 > 0:50:24Victoria this one you should be able to get, as the first name
0:50:24 > 0:50:27is, you've guessed it.
0:50:27 > 0:50:33Victoria Coren Mitchell. The next clue... Emily Bronte.They are all
0:50:33 > 0:50:38editors of the independent.Not quite! The next one. That is Agatha
0:50:38 > 0:50:48Christie. Next one. JK Rowling. Quick. Let's see how clever you are.
0:50:48 > 0:50:54They'll got lost in North Carolina with a beaker of Jim.Nearly. All
0:50:54 > 0:51:01public fiction under a pseudonym.I haven't done that.You sort of did,
0:51:01 > 0:51:04a short story.Oh yes, I have! LAUGHTER
0:51:04 > 0:51:12I told you I was bad at this game! Just 17.Yes, I sold them a short
0:51:12 > 0:51:17story.What was your pseudonym?I can't tell you because I still
0:51:17 > 0:51:23sometimes use it.I haven't, but I might get one.I will give you a
0:51:23 > 0:51:34clue, it was an anagram of my opponent name.Victoria Coren
0:51:34 > 0:51:38yes, not the Mitchell bit, I wasn't married at 14.
0:51:38 > 0:51:40It's almost time to see the Autumn gallery you've
0:51:40 > 0:51:43all created during the show, and reveal One Show artist
0:51:43 > 0:51:44Adebanji Alade's contribution.
0:51:44 > 0:51:46He found inspiration amongst the trees of Wiltshire to create
0:51:46 > 0:51:51a painting of his favourite season.
0:51:51 > 0:51:57Orton is the time of the year you live for as an artist, the vibrant
0:51:57 > 0:52:03golden and okra tones of the leaves reflect the cycle of nature. I love
0:52:03 > 0:52:09nothing more than painting outside at this time of the year. So the One
0:52:09 > 0:52:17Show has set me a challenge, to capture the beauty of autumn on
0:52:17 > 0:52:22campus. I've come to Wiltshire, one of the best places in the country to
0:52:22 > 0:52:27witness this seasonal spectacle. The first thing that really catches my
0:52:27 > 0:52:33attention is the tree in front. I don't see trees is just ordinary
0:52:33 > 0:52:36structures in the woods, I just see them as these kind of weird
0:52:36 > 0:52:42monsters. They don't talk, they don't say anything, but they have
0:52:42 > 0:52:47some immense presence. Almost like a creature just crawls over and then
0:52:47 > 0:52:52you have the branches, so everything seems to come together. Just little
0:52:52 > 0:53:02by little, the musicians call it that, the Harmony, the melody, the
0:53:02 > 0:53:05branches, everything connected, everything will make sense when the
0:53:05 > 0:53:09colour comes in but this is what I call the bare bones. My work is
0:53:09 > 0:53:14quite impressionistic and I like to include people and movement into my
0:53:14 > 0:53:18compositions, and right on cue a winning couple walking through my
0:53:18 > 0:53:27frame. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Stop!
0:53:27 > 0:53:34It's that little space in between there... He has a front leg there.
0:53:34 > 0:53:39That's it. Brilliant, brilliant, fantastic. That will do, that will
0:53:39 > 0:53:43do, that just gives me a nice good feel.
0:53:43 > 0:53:48This picture is starting to take shape, but I still want to add more
0:53:48 > 0:53:51life to this composition. These grandparents and their granddaughter
0:53:51 > 0:53:57are just what I'm looking for. First of all I've got her coat in there.
0:53:57 > 0:54:03So his feet go up and they plot in right there. He was pointing, she
0:54:03 > 0:54:08was pointing. That's his head and then the hand's pointed out. That
0:54:08 > 0:54:13is, for me, I'm quite happy with the way that is in the picture. You guys
0:54:13 > 0:54:17have done tremendously well. Come over, come over, let's talk about
0:54:17 > 0:54:23this. Why have you come here today? We live fairly local and when we
0:54:23 > 0:54:27babysit, to see the countryside in the autumn colours, it's a bonus, a
0:54:27 > 0:54:32good day out.Brilliant, I'm happy you've decided to do it today
0:54:32 > 0:54:35because it helps my painting so much.
0:54:35 > 0:54:39Basically when I see people passing by, I think of the composition and I
0:54:39 > 0:54:43also think of variety, are you with me question out when I saw the baby
0:54:43 > 0:54:47am thinking, yes, this is about the cycle of life, just as the trees
0:54:47 > 0:54:52have come through the times, I think she can add something to it.
0:54:52 > 0:54:55Now I've placed people into the scene and I'm ready to turn this
0:54:55 > 0:55:01sketch into a beautiful painting, by adding in a autumn sky, the
0:55:01 > 0:55:04reflections on the lake and the carpet of fallen leaves, my painting
0:55:04 > 0:55:08is beginning to take shape.
0:55:14 > 0:55:19I've really, really got to the most interesting part of the day, because
0:55:19 > 0:55:26this part is where I can just play Tic Tac with my autumn colours, like
0:55:26 > 0:55:30the one I'm just placing on it now, which has a little bit of yellowish
0:55:30 > 0:55:39brown in it. Some of them have gone into Orange, some of them have gone
0:55:39 > 0:55:45into perfect red. Every colour in autumn you can get here, this is
0:55:45 > 0:55:50autumn at its very best. They're all the kind of colours you get in
0:55:50 > 0:55:54autumn, they just fly through. But just as I feel I'm making
0:55:54 > 0:56:01progress, along comes the autumn rain.
0:56:01 > 0:56:05I've had to come under the shelter to protect the painting, so every
0:56:05 > 0:56:11other thing I'm going to do has to be done in my studio. But at the
0:56:11 > 0:56:15moment, I'm quite pleased that I've caught the autumn colours.
0:56:15 > 0:56:17Fantastic.
0:56:17 > 0:56:19And Adebanji is here with the finished painting -
0:56:19 > 0:56:21you've been hard at work since filming, how
0:56:21 > 0:56:23long did it take you?
0:56:23 > 0:56:29Are you pleased with the result?I am.Andrew, would you make of it?
0:56:29 > 0:56:33Excellent. There is an exhibition of French impressionist in London at
0:56:33 > 0:56:37the moment and it is a bit like Pizarro. I want to ask, is it a real
0:56:37 > 0:56:40disappointment to go to the studio, do you like to finish it in front of
0:56:40 > 0:56:44what you are painting?I'd have loved to have finish it there and
0:56:44 > 0:56:49then but the rains came and I had to adjust, that's life.I love your
0:56:49 > 0:56:52duck!LAUGHTER Thank you.
0:56:52 > 0:56:57Earlier we asked you to fill our Autumn gallery with photos,
0:56:57 > 0:57:01And the response has been overwhelming. We put some of them in
0:57:01 > 0:57:04the gallery, fantastic. We can look at some in detail now. Liza and
0:57:04 > 0:57:13Victoria have some. This is George, enjoying the leaves, a fantastic
0:57:13 > 0:57:17picture.Sarah took up painting after 30 years, well done! Inspired
0:57:17 > 0:57:25by the fading light on an early autumn evening. Amazing.Gorgeous.
0:57:25 > 0:57:34That one. Kim in Scotland sent us this photo of the stag.Lock had.
0:57:34 > 0:57:44This is from Ted, taken... Bettis Park this morning, of the local
0:57:44 > 0:57:48community clearing up the pathway of all the leaves.Thank you so much.
0:57:48 > 0:57:52Thanks to Liza, Victoria and Andrew.
0:57:52 > 0:57:55All their books are out this week, and Only Connect returns to BBC Two
0:57:55 > 0:58:00next Friday at 8.30pm.
0:58:00 > 0:58:06I wish I could paint. It would be so great!You can, you can.How do you
0:58:06 > 0:58:11start? Come and see me and I will show you.For someone who has never
0:58:11 > 0:58:16done it before.Start with acrylics, the easy as pain to use, you,
0:58:16 > 0:58:20mistakes, you can make paint on top of paint on top of paint. Start with
0:58:20 > 0:58:24acrylic. Go and get some drawing lessons. There are lots of places
0:58:24 > 0:58:28you can get basic drawing lessons, learn how to draw. It's quite
0:58:28 > 0:58:32difficult but really exciting when you get into it. What you haven't
0:58:32 > 0:58:39seen me draw, embarrassing! Everyone says it but it's never true.I
0:58:39 > 0:58:43believe everyone has it. You did it as a child on it in there and it
0:58:43 > 0:58:47only takes something to bring it out. Get there, get a pad and a
0:58:47 > 0:58:52pencil and do it!CHEERING Yes, yes.
0:58:52 > 0:58:54Tomorrow the amazing voice of Sam Smith will be
0:58:54 > 0:58:55here - see you at 7pm.
0:58:55 > 0:58:59Bye-bye.Bye-bye! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:58:59 > 0:59:00CHEERING AND APPLAUSE