:00:20. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to your fancy Friday One Show with Wales. Well
:00:27. > :00:32.done last week, the Triple Crown. And poor old England, no grand slam.
:00:32. > :00:37.Not much! Half of our opening duo have been described as the nicest
:00:37. > :00:41.man in the world. The other half has not, but we have been
:00:41. > :00:51.researching him and we can confirm that he is quite nice, too. It is
:00:51. > :00:55.
:00:55. > :01:03.It is very rare to see two Pythons at the same time. What draws you
:01:03. > :01:08.together? At the moment, it is the 35th anniversary of the Ripping
:01:08. > :01:12.Yarns, which we wrote together. And a lovely new, delightful,
:01:12. > :01:18.beautifully illustrated, beautifully presented boxed set is
:01:18. > :01:24.now available. You do not have to buy it. I won't! There might be
:01:24. > :01:30.some weak-minded people who might buy it. I suppose so. We will talk
:01:30. > :01:34.about it later. Thank God for that. Ripping Yarns was based on a boy's
:01:34. > :01:39.own adventure story, and as a tribute, we are organising our own
:01:39. > :01:46.school boy and schoolgirl fun later. Some of your favourite One Show
:01:46. > :01:52.faces will be involved. In case you did not hear that, we said
:01:52. > :01:58.motorised bath tubs. TV is fun, a seriously! As we have a couple of
:01:58. > :02:02.comedy legend, we had to make our other guest was top notch. An Oscar
:02:02. > :02:11.nominee is more than all right. He is the star of Platoon, Spider-Man
:02:11. > :02:15.and the English Patient, the brilliant Willem Dafoe. A Hollywood
:02:15. > :02:18.superstar on the One Show! In Platoon, he played a wayward
:02:18. > :02:26.soldier, which is fitting because tonight we are joined by the
:02:26. > :02:31.partners of real life servicemen, the Military Wives choir are here.
:02:31. > :02:35.They will be performing later. It looks like we have a show of hands.
:02:36. > :02:40.It is a good job. The Military Wives story has not only moved as
:02:40. > :02:48.but has inspired hundreds of others to set of choirs. Justin Rowlatt
:02:48. > :02:51.went to meet one such group who are making their own music.
:02:52. > :02:58.With half the million records sold and a Christmas number one, Gareth
:02:58. > :03:02.Malone's Military Wives choir has become a phenomenon. But the story
:03:02. > :03:08.does not end there, because the real triumph is this. Following
:03:08. > :03:15.their success, more than 10 new Military Wives choirs have been set
:03:15. > :03:20.up in communities across the country. I have come to meet Carol,
:03:20. > :03:24.who helped to found a Military Wives choir in Salisbury, Wiltshire.
:03:24. > :03:29.We watched the Military Wives and Gareth Malone and we were totally
:03:29. > :03:33.inspired by it. To us, it is a sense of community. We met ladies
:03:33. > :03:38.we would never have met because it is such a vast area, Salisbury
:03:38. > :03:41.Plain. We got together and the choir master taught us an African
:03:41. > :03:46.lullaby. We could not believe how beautiful we sounded. That sounds
:03:46. > :03:51.really corny, but we did. What do you think of your mum joining up
:03:51. > :03:59.with a choir? I am not surprised because she likes to sing in the
:03:59. > :04:03.car and around the house. It has totally taken over my life.
:04:03. > :04:08.choir has only practised six times, but it has its first concert in two
:04:08. > :04:14.weeks. So I brought along Sam Stephenson from the original
:04:14. > :04:22.Military Wives choir. Sorry to interrupt, but we have a couple of
:04:22. > :04:27.guests to join you as you rehearse. The hope was that they would give
:04:27. > :04:31.you a bit of advice on putting on your first concert. When it comes
:04:32. > :04:36.to your first performance, you need to put in the hours. Having section
:04:36. > :04:43.practice at your houses, you need to nail down and work hard. Try not
:04:43. > :04:48.to be nervous because everybody is going to love you. How are your
:04:48. > :04:52.husband's coping with your new fame? It is trying to get the
:04:52. > :04:59.balance between the kids, the home- the husband, making sure they know
:05:00. > :05:03.they are still important. Because they are. We are practising, so
:05:03. > :05:13.would you do us the honour of joining in and helping us learn the
:05:13. > :05:27.
:05:27. > :05:33.# Where there you are, my love will keep you safe
:05:33. > :05:43.# I will keep you safe along the dark, dark way
:05:43. > :05:45.
:05:45. > :05:50.Having them here was great. gives you such a boost that you
:05:50. > :05:54.will be able to do things you never thought you could do. We all have
:05:54. > :06:03.someone who is going to Afghanistan at some point and it is nice to
:06:03. > :06:13.talk to someone who knows what you're going through.
:06:13. > :06:17.
:06:17. > :06:22.The Military Wives choir will be treating us to a song from their
:06:22. > :06:32.brand new album later, but probably not this.
:06:32. > :06:33.
:06:33. > :06:39.# Always Look On the Bright Side of Some of them went for the whistle.
:06:39. > :06:45.Did you have a meeting about that? Music has always played a huge part
:06:45. > :06:49.in your comedy. Whose decision was that? I always wanted to make
:06:49. > :06:53.musicals and I am now writing operas for the Royal Opera House. I
:06:53. > :07:00.did one last year, and they wanted me to do another one this year with
:07:00. > :07:04.someone who has won an Oscar for the Full Monty. What is your most
:07:05. > :07:11.successful piece of music? I would like to save the doctor's Tale, the
:07:11. > :07:15.opera at the Royal Opera House last year. He is very clever, isn't he?
:07:15. > :07:21.Yes. I know nothing about this. He lives in a parallel world. He
:07:21. > :07:27.thinks he does things at the opera house. You don't think of yourself
:07:27. > :07:34.as a musical, do you? I do, actually. I am a frustrated
:07:34. > :07:38.musician. Early on at school, we had music class and the music
:07:38. > :07:43.teacher stopped and said, someone is singing flat. My friend said, it
:07:43. > :07:50.is Michael Palin, sir. I had to stand by the piano and sing a scale
:07:50. > :07:54.on my own. My voice wobbled and he said, you go and sit on there non-
:07:54. > :08:01.singer's bench. What is it like at that age to be told you cannot
:08:01. > :08:04.sing? You proved him wrong. When I did the lumberjack Song at the
:08:04. > :08:07.Royal Albert Hall in the concert for George Harrison, the whole
:08:08. > :08:15.Albert Hall, 10,000 people were there and I thought, this is it for
:08:15. > :08:25.my music teacher. I can sing! have some of that, don't we? Editor
:08:25. > :08:43.
:08:43. > :08:49.That was former German teacher as well. We don't know that his music
:08:49. > :08:55.teacher is dead. He would be 119. He would be the oldest man in the
:08:55. > :08:58.world! Before they joked around on TV, the road to them becoming
:08:58. > :09:08.Python pioneers had been mapped out in the comedy cosmos, as Alex Riley
:09:08. > :09:22.
:09:22. > :09:24.Michael Palin and Terry Jones our comedy legends. As part of the
:09:24. > :09:30.creative force behind Monty Python's Flying Circus, they
:09:30. > :09:34.conquered the world with comedy, but how did they first lock horns?
:09:34. > :09:40.Both were fresh-faced university students studying here at Oxford in
:09:40. > :09:43.the early 1960s. They soon started to write and perform together and
:09:43. > :09:48.they caught the attention of David Frost, who invited them to
:09:48. > :09:52.contribute material to his BBC television show, the Frost Report.
:09:52. > :09:58.From there, they moved on to writing and performing an
:09:58. > :10:01.innovative TV show for kids. Along with future Pythons, Eric Idle and
:10:01. > :10:04.Terry Gilliam. And then with John Cleese and Graham Chapman, the six
:10:04. > :10:10.of them would create ground breaking characters and sketches as
:10:10. > :10:16.Monty Python's Flying Circus. cat is suffering from what we have
:10:16. > :10:22.not found the word for. There was nothing like it, ever. It was very
:10:22. > :10:31.original. And there has never been anything else that a witty, that
:10:31. > :10:38.satirical and that funny. I am delirious with desire. What is
:10:38. > :10:45.that? Nothing, just a trick of the light. That was close. The great
:10:45. > :10:49.thing about Python was that I do not think they knew what they had.
:10:49. > :10:54.It is a bicycle repair man! Following the end of the Python's
:10:54. > :10:57.TV series, Michael Palin and Terry Jones were looking for a new
:10:57. > :11:04.challenge and in nineteens and D six they decided it was time for
:11:04. > :11:09.comedy to take on the British stiff upper lip. -- in 1976. Ripping
:11:09. > :11:15.Yarns was a pastiche of 1930s adventure stories much loved by
:11:15. > :11:18.Palin and Jones. It was one of those stories for boys. The man who
:11:18. > :11:22.tamed Niagara. It was ripe for satire but there was something
:11:22. > :11:28.endearing about it. Remember what your uncle said just before he
:11:28. > :11:32.died? The high production values gave this series the look of a
:11:32. > :11:39.proper drama, and lovingly parodied adventure fiction, World War II
:11:39. > :11:44.thrillers and the murder mystery. There was one particular sequence
:11:45. > :11:49.that was just packed with a joke after joke. Both there was a boy
:11:49. > :11:58.100 ft up, being nailed to a wall. There was somebody fighting with a
:11:58. > :12:06.bear. The episode I remember, the family pretended to speak bad
:12:06. > :12:16.French so they would not have to talk to Eric. After two series and
:12:16. > :12:16.
:12:17. > :12:20.just nine episodes, it was time to Terry Jones has made several
:12:20. > :12:24.history shows, and Michael Palin seems to have gone around the world
:12:24. > :12:33.in 80 different ways. But it is their comedy that is still making
:12:33. > :12:40.us laugh 30 years later. What is that, Tomkinson? It is a model ice
:12:40. > :12:45.breaker. It is a bit big, isn't it? It is a full-scale model, sir.
:12:45. > :12:51.good, standing the test of time. liked the idea of a full-scale
:12:51. > :12:54.model. You were telling us about releasing Ripping Yarns because it
:12:54. > :13:00.is a 35 year anniversary. There were only nine episodes, so for
:13:00. > :13:07.those who might have missed it, how would you describe it? It was my
:13:07. > :13:14.brother who suggested we do this series. He said, why don't you
:13:14. > :13:19.basic on the old tales and ripping stories. It was the boy's annual
:13:19. > :13:24.stories. They had them about sport, Empire, the army, a cross section
:13:24. > :13:29.of what British boys were supposed to enjoy at that age, Tales Of
:13:29. > :13:34.Pluck. It caused such a fuss for loads of reasons at the time. The
:13:34. > :13:39.BBC, shooting on film, costing loads of money. We did try to do
:13:39. > :13:43.something a bit different. It was part film, part studio, but also
:13:43. > :13:47.using drama actors. We were getting the comedy and drama departments
:13:47. > :13:54.together. We nearly got Ralph Richardson for a part and he rang
:13:54. > :13:57.the comedy office and somebody said, It's Ralph Richardson. I talked to
:13:57. > :14:01.him and he would have done it but he put in an enormous claim for
:14:01. > :14:06.wanting his wife to come along and stay in a five-star hotel.
:14:06. > :14:12.can't have that. It was hugely expensive. Is that why there were
:14:12. > :14:17.only nine? Was it that expensive? There was a documentary and it said
:14:17. > :14:23.you were fighting to have it on film because that was so important.
:14:23. > :14:26.We wanted good production values. We had just on the Holy Grail.
:14:26. > :14:30.Terry had directed that. We made a movie which looked really good, so
:14:30. > :14:33.we thought we would make the programmes really good, too. You
:14:33. > :14:38.need the right background to give the Yorkshire moors the look of the
:14:38. > :14:42.Yorkshire moors, and the school had to look right. I have always
:14:42. > :14:47.preferred to shoot on location rather than studio sets. Your story
:14:47. > :14:57.is not about success and failure, but about your friendship, really.
:14:57. > :14:58.
:14:58. > :15:02.You have genuinely been friends for years., your friends, that can lead
:15:02. > :15:08.to conflict at work, but you have a problem with liking each other too
:15:09. > :15:15.much, almost. We are just such nice people. We did not share the shower
:15:15. > :15:19.together. If you wanted to work together, you thought maybe it was
:15:19. > :15:26.not for both of you but you were too scared to tell each other.
:15:26. > :15:31.Ripping Yarns was a bit of, you know, a difficult point, because
:15:31. > :15:34.the BBC did not want to do another Python show. They wanted me to be
:15:34. > :15:43.the central character and it was awkward. Did you have to cut him
:15:43. > :15:50.loose? He volunteered. I gave him a pint of bitter. You're happy
:15:50. > :15:59.because you wanted to write and direct. Ore I had been directing
:15:59. > :16:05.surreptitiously. And then I directed Life of Brian, and so
:16:05. > :16:10.obviously I could not help but tell Terry Hughes what to do. I think
:16:10. > :16:15.you should put the camera there. I could see it was not working so I
:16:15. > :16:21.cut myself out. Did you have a conversation, we need to talk about
:16:21. > :16:23.this? We regularly got together, we always have. Terry is one of the
:16:24. > :16:32.few people I still have a pint with because most people don't do that
:16:32. > :16:37.sort of thing now. We do. He was over a pint that we worked it out.
:16:37. > :16:45.Was it a sad moment? I thought it was a bit sad but it was quite
:16:45. > :16:55.liberating. We could do what we wanted to do. I don't think it was
:16:55. > :16:56.
:16:56. > :17:00.a bad thing. And we are still friends, I think. Are we friends?
:17:00. > :17:04.There was the Holy Flying Circus, made for BBC for recently, about
:17:04. > :17:14.the Pythons, very funny, written about the Pythons. He played my
:17:14. > :17:16.
:17:16. > :17:21.But I was more convincing playing Michael's wife than when I was
:17:21. > :17:26.playing me! I thought you were going to say than Michael's wife,
:17:26. > :17:31.which would have been worse. can you resist a beauty like that?
:17:31. > :17:38.Terry, you were on with us not long ago, and we adopted a meerkat for
:17:38. > :17:43.you, called Terry. That was in your home town of Colwyn Bay. Since then,
:17:43. > :17:50.Terry the meerkat has had a baby brother. So we have adopted Michael
:17:50. > :18:00.the meerkat for you. Michael is on the right in that picture. Terry is
:18:00. > :18:03.
:18:03. > :18:09.in his whole, having a think. is right. I am just out of focus.
:18:09. > :18:17.You have a meerkat each. How do we meet them? You have to go to Colwyn
:18:17. > :18:20.Bay. They love a pint. It is fair to say that over the years, my plan
:18:20. > :18:24.Terry have felt the wrath of the taste and decency brigade, due to
:18:24. > :18:31.the subject matter of some of them are to real. And that puts them in
:18:31. > :18:36.distinguished company. The idealised family was at the
:18:36. > :18:41.heart of Victorian life. The strong father, the loyal wife, a brood of
:18:41. > :18:45.happy children. But was this the reality? I have come to take
:18:45. > :18:50.Britain to see a painting that caused outrage in Victorian society
:18:50. > :18:56.by suggesting that marriage was frequently based on misery and
:18:56. > :19:01.hypocrisy instead of happiness and love. Augustus was an accomplished
:19:01. > :19:06.Victorian artist and social reformer. In 1858, he presented a
:19:06. > :19:11.series of three paintings of the rural economy -- Academy, depicting
:19:11. > :19:16.the break-up of a middle-class family. It is a very dramatic scene.
:19:16. > :19:20.What is going on? It is what we call a narrative painting. The
:19:20. > :19:26.husband has a note in his hand, which reveals to him that the wife
:19:26. > :19:30.has committed adultery. She is distraught on the ground or. As a
:19:30. > :19:34.woman with few legal rights, she would be cast out of the house with
:19:34. > :19:40.nothing. Add the thyme, women often married for security rather than
:19:40. > :19:44.love, but the husband then acquired everything she owned. He even and
:19:44. > :19:50.their children. Adultery was often tolerated for the man, but for the
:19:50. > :19:55.woman, it was an unforgivable crime. This painting is bursting with
:19:55. > :19:59.symbolism. The Apple is pierced through its core, like the husband.
:19:59. > :20:04.The open door is ready for the wife to leave. The House of Cards is
:20:04. > :20:08.about to topple as the family fall apart. The House of Cards is built
:20:08. > :20:13.on a book by the French author balls act. He caused a scandal by
:20:13. > :20:15.publishing a book called the physiology of marriage. He
:20:15. > :20:21.satirises the institution of marriage and says there are far
:20:21. > :20:24.more unhappy marriages than good ones. Critics were outraged. His
:20:24. > :20:27.painting was to real for a refined Victorian audience. But the issues
:20:27. > :20:32.of inequality within marriage were already being challenged by women
:20:32. > :20:36.brave enough to make a stand. 20 years before, the socialite
:20:36. > :20:39.Caroline Norton had lobbied Parliament for changes to the law.
:20:39. > :20:43.Forced to leave her violent husband, he had banned her from seeing their
:20:43. > :20:48.children. The results of her campaigning are here at the
:20:48. > :20:51.parliamentary archives. She is a feisty campaigner, and this is the
:20:51. > :20:59.first piece of legislation that she succeeds in getting onto the
:20:59. > :21:03.statute. Yes, this is the custody of infants Act, 19 -- 1839. It
:21:03. > :21:09.permits a separated woman to apply to the Lord Chancellor for custody
:21:09. > :21:13.of her children under seven years of age and for access to the elder
:21:13. > :21:18.children up to 16 years of age. if a woman had committed adultery,
:21:18. > :21:23.she had no legal access to her children. Caroline wanted women to
:21:23. > :21:27.be equal within marriage, but it would be a long process. Eventually,
:21:27. > :21:32.in 1857, a year before the paintings went on display, comes
:21:32. > :21:36.the divorce and Matrimonial Causes Act. This makes divorce a matter
:21:36. > :21:41.for a new civil court, open to everyone. But husbands, of course,
:21:41. > :21:48.still get the better deal. A man could divorce his wife for a single
:21:48. > :21:54.act of adultery. But a woman had to be able to prove adultery against
:21:54. > :22:00.her husband, plus some other aggravating cause such as desertion,
:22:00. > :22:03.cruelty, bigamy, incest. The Act did allow some divorced women
:22:03. > :22:06.maintenance, and they could keep their own earnings. But for the
:22:06. > :22:11.adulterous wife in the painting with no personal wealth or legal
:22:11. > :22:15.access to her children, the future was bleak. The painting shows how
:22:15. > :22:21.five years later, the father has died and the two daughters are left
:22:21. > :22:25.alone. Their mother's fate is worse. So the fate is not just destitution,
:22:25. > :22:30.but prostitution? He seems to be saying, what is wrong with this
:22:30. > :22:35.picture? Nobody wins here. Something has to be done. During
:22:35. > :22:39.the next 24 years, two new Act of Parliament allowed women to keep
:22:39. > :22:44.all their personal inheritance and their earnings. But it was not
:22:44. > :22:49.until 1923 that men and women were given equal grounds for divorce.
:22:49. > :22:53.The fictional wife end up destitute, and Karen Norton's story is equally
:22:53. > :23:00.tragic. While she was kept apart from her children, one of her three
:23:00. > :23:05.sons died in her husband's care. A very real price a Victorian woman
:23:05. > :23:10.paid for leaving an unhappy marriage. Gyles, we are all used to
:23:10. > :23:15.salacious gossip magazines these days. There is nothing new there.
:23:15. > :23:20.100 years ago, the papers were full of scandal. I have been doing some
:23:20. > :23:26.research, and I have dug up two of my favourite Victorian scandals.
:23:26. > :23:33.One goes back to 1854. I am calling it a Victorian love triangle. The
:23:33. > :23:38.case of the art critic, his wife And her Lover. Terry will know
:23:38. > :23:43.these people. One is Effie Gray, a great society beauty. The other is
:23:43. > :23:49.John Ruskin, the art critic who married her. But she was in love
:23:49. > :23:55.with Ruskin's protege, a great painter. After six years of
:23:55. > :23:59.marriage, none consummated, Effie Gray said, I want a divorce. Queen
:23:59. > :24:03.Victoria was so not amused, she would not have Effie Gray anywhere
:24:03. > :24:06.near the court. But she got a divorce from John Ruskin because he
:24:06. > :24:13.admitted that while he loved her face, she did not have the rest of
:24:13. > :24:18.what was required to excite passion. And it took him six years? It took
:24:18. > :24:23.her six years to pluck up the courage. But then John Ruskin did
:24:23. > :24:32.not get together with anyone else. He had a passion for somebody else
:24:32. > :24:38.called Grows. He met her when she was 10 -- Rose. When he was 29, he
:24:38. > :24:44.asked her to get together, but her parents had heard about him. But
:24:44. > :24:49.there are people who were a bit of a lad, for example Sir Charles.
:24:49. > :24:56.This is my second scandal, the torrid and tempestuous case of the
:24:56. > :25:01.bed-hopping politician. Aren't they all? There is nothing new under the
:25:01. > :25:07.sun. He was once tipped to be Prime Minister, but in 1885, scandal hit
:25:07. > :25:14.him. Lots of rumours about him. He was said to be a bit of a goer.
:25:14. > :25:18.Unfortunately, a fellow MP called Donald Crawford suggested that
:25:18. > :25:26.Charles was having a dalliance with Mrs Crawford. Not only with her,
:25:26. > :25:31.but with Mrs Crawford's mother. Not only upstairs with the mother and
:25:31. > :25:38.daughter, but also downstairs with the parlour maid. Did you have a
:25:38. > :25:43.ladder?! No, there was a green baize door. That was the story.
:25:43. > :25:48.There was a big court case and it was never proven. The point of this
:25:48. > :25:52.is that Charles' life was ruined, but was there any truth in it? Now
:25:52. > :25:56.historians say that maybe actually, he never had a dalliance with Miss
:25:56. > :26:00.Crawford, her mother or the servant. But because the rumour got out and
:26:00. > :26:09.the papers reported it, this man who might have been Prime Minister
:26:09. > :26:17.ended his career in shame. There is no smoke without fire. Thank you,
:26:17. > :26:24.Gyles. We will see you later. will be there. I want to be in
:26:24. > :26:28.Willem's team. We have a team, too. You have
:26:28. > :26:34.printed our next guest. This time last week, we were talking to the
:26:34. > :26:37.fantastic comic creator of Spider- Man, Stan Lee. Our next guest help
:26:37. > :26:46.smashed box-office records and a few champagne glasses when he
:26:46. > :26:56.played one of the most notorious bad he is. I surrender! Hold it
:26:56. > :27:15.
:27:15. > :27:19.right there! A impressive. It is So, how did the green Goblin
:27:19. > :27:26.compared to your two Oscar- nominated performance? How do they
:27:26. > :27:35.compare? They are very different. Which did you prefer? Don't have
:27:35. > :27:41.preferences. One at a time. What is work? No, I like making things in
:27:41. > :27:44.different kinds of ways. I don't compare one with another. You have
:27:44. > :27:48.come to talk about John Carter, which could not be more different
:27:48. > :27:53.to most other movies I have seen. You must have had practice
:27:53. > :27:58.explaining this movie, so please do that on my behalf. It is difficult.
:27:58. > :28:04.It is an epic action-adventure, based on Edgar Rice Burroughs'
:28:04. > :28:11.popular novels that were written 100 years ago this year. They were
:28:11. > :28:15.written in 1912. They were seminal novels, because they were the first
:28:15. > :28:19.imaginings before the American popular literature of outer space
:28:19. > :28:29.and Mars. It is about a man that gets transported to Mars. From
:28:29. > :28:30.
:28:30. > :28:39.Earth. Not England. It is actually Virginia. We have a little clip.
:28:39. > :28:49.This is you introduce yourself to John Carter. Tars Tarkas. Tars
:28:49. > :28:59.
:28:59. > :29:09.Tarkas? Captain John Carter, Virginia. The junior? Virginia! No.
:29:09. > :29:12.
:29:12. > :29:16.My name is John Carter. I am from Virginia. That is a nice little
:29:16. > :29:21.two-hander, but that does not represent the movie. It is the
:29:21. > :29:27.biggest thing I have ever seen. is definitely the biggest project I
:29:27. > :29:35.have worked on as far as it has scope. It is a lot of things. Its
:29:35. > :29:40.appeal will be wide. You have voiced it. It was six months
:29:40. > :29:44.filming this. It is motion capture, which had me actually filming the
:29:44. > :29:50.scenes, because the director, who comes from Pixar and made Finding
:29:50. > :29:55.Nemo among other things, I worked with him on Finding Nemo, so that
:29:55. > :30:00.is where I know him from. He was insistent about us filming the
:30:00. > :30:06.scenes, and then the animators would film over what we had shot.
:30:06. > :30:11.He tried to keep it as complete as possible. Your character is 9 ft
:30:11. > :30:17.tall. Yes, so I am wearing stilts. Then over my head, I have a camera
:30:17. > :30:22.recording my facial expression. do you do the four Arms? It is a
:30:22. > :30:30.little tricky. But if you have four arms, you have a tendency to use
:30:30. > :30:40.only two. But you never know when you might need them. Meet the right
:30:40. > :30:40.
:30:41. > :30:45.woman...? And this movie is out a week today in Great Britain.
:30:45. > :30:48.were lucky in love to sit on Wednesday. I have to say, the
:30:49. > :30:52.security around the movie at the screening so that no one could get
:30:52. > :30:56.a clip of it, Disney know this is massive. It is the first of three.
:30:56. > :31:00.If it does not win every award the special-effects next year, all
:31:00. > :31:06.awards should be cancelled. I am with you. The animation and special
:31:06. > :31:10.effects are incredible. But above all, you do not experience it that
:31:10. > :31:14.way. It has a good story. You really get involved. I could not
:31:14. > :31:19.believe it is only two hours long. Would you agree it has a bit of
:31:19. > :31:25.Gladiator, a bit of Star Wars, and a bitter Jason And the Argonauts?
:31:25. > :31:30.But it was the original. The source material is what a lot of people
:31:30. > :31:37.site, everyone from George Lucas to sci-fi writers, they cite Edgar
:31:37. > :31:47.Rice Burroughs' series as being very influential. If you read the
:31:47. > :31:50.
:31:50. > :31:58.books, you can see. It is about Are you coming back for the
:31:58. > :32:03.trilogy? For all of them? I will be back, yes. Lovely to talk to you.
:32:03. > :32:10.Willem Dafoe, everyone. He was on the Big Breakfast 20 years ago and
:32:10. > :32:17.he has not aged. I remember. When I heard you were hosting this show I
:32:17. > :32:21.said, from the Big Breakfast. said, is that his grandfather?
:32:21. > :32:25.it time for a musical interlude? Absolutely. The Military Wives
:32:25. > :32:35.choir have their debut album out on Monday. They had a number one
:32:35. > :32:40.
:32:40. > :32:49.Christmas hit and tonight they are # Both when the rain is blowing in
:32:49. > :32:52.your face # And the whole world is on your
:32:52. > :33:02.case # I would offer you a warm embrace
:33:02. > :33:06.
:33:06. > :33:11.# To make you feel my love # When storms are raging on the
:33:11. > :33:18.rolling sea # And on the highway of regret
:33:18. > :33:28.# The wins of change are blowing wild and free
:33:28. > :33:29.
:33:29. > :33:36.# You ain't seen nothing like me # I can make you happy, make your
:33:36. > :33:46.dreams come true # Nothing that I wouldn't do
:33:46. > :33:46.
:33:46. > :33:56.# Go to the ends of the Earth for # To make you feel my love
:33:56. > :34:09.
:34:09. > :34:16.Ladies, ladies, how are we? Happy Christmas! We have done that! What
:34:16. > :34:24.has been going on? We have been a bit busy. The album comes out on
:34:24. > :34:31.Monday. It is out on Monday, but you love a pre- order, don't you?
:34:31. > :34:34.Yes. You can pre-ordered it all over the place. Do you know the
:34:34. > :34:43.news about your pre-ordered figures? Well, I am not allowed to
:34:43. > :34:47.tell you. Over to you. He is such a tease. I think you're going to be
:34:47. > :34:51.OK. You came together to support each other in times of loneliness
:34:51. > :34:54.while your husbands were away. Is there any truth in the fact that
:34:54. > :34:59.maybe your husbands are a bit jealous of all of the farm that
:34:59. > :35:03.you're having? We are just enjoying our tour of duty and getting on
:35:03. > :35:08.with that and having a bit of limelight. That do you remember
:35:08. > :35:13.that they are coming home and you need to make time for them. They
:35:13. > :35:21.have to look after the children. Gareth Malone has changed. Who are
:35:21. > :35:26.you, big boy? I am Rob. Over the years, Dr Sarah Jarvis has
:35:26. > :35:35.had to treat some pretty strange customers. But then she came face-
:35:35. > :35:44.to-face with someone who turned out to beat a proper dummy.
:35:44. > :35:50.There is an adage in medicine - C Four years, that was how medics
:35:50. > :35:53.learned, on the job. You would watch somebody do a procedure and
:35:53. > :35:57.then you would have somebody watch you do a procedure, and before you
:35:57. > :36:03.knew it, you were teaching somebody else to do the same thing. It was
:36:03. > :36:06.very scary for the doctor and no less so for the patient. But now,
:36:06. > :36:15.simulation exercises like this are taking the risk out of medical
:36:15. > :36:22.training. These days, real patients no longer have to be guinea pigs.
:36:22. > :36:26.Please help me, Dr Jarvis. This is Harefield Hospital's �64,000
:36:26. > :36:30.simulated patient. But he is no dummy. He can talk, going to shock
:36:30. > :36:39.and cardiac arrest, respond to drugs, and if he is not treated
:36:39. > :36:44.correctly, he can die. Am I having a heart attack? Yes, but we are
:36:44. > :36:52.trying to avoid it. It allows medical teams to put their teams to
:36:52. > :37:02.the test in a variety of emergency situations. Cardiac arrest in room
:37:02. > :37:03.
:37:03. > :37:07.four. Continue compressions. Stand Collier, shocking. He can do almost
:37:07. > :37:10.anything but a real person can do. You can listen to his chest, give
:37:10. > :37:18.him medication. If you should give him adrenaline, his heart rate and
:37:18. > :37:22.blood pressure will increase. The authenticity is as good as lifelike.
:37:22. > :37:28.That feels much better. A fellow doctor orchestrates the session. He
:37:28. > :37:34.can manipulate the way that it responds. He can be the voice.
:37:34. > :37:38.might make you cough a little bit. And he can throw in unexpected
:37:38. > :37:45.challenges. You can change his heart rate and his heart rhythm. He
:37:45. > :37:49.is incredibly, frighteningly lifelike. Hello. Specialists at the
:37:49. > :37:53.Royal Brompton Hospital in west London have gone one step further.
:37:53. > :37:57.OK, low blood pressure, I will come straight away. This is the very
:37:57. > :38:01.first time they have revealed Harley, a prototype five-year-old
:38:01. > :38:06.trialled whose torso actually has the skin texture, cardiac anatomy
:38:06. > :38:13.and blood flow of a real human being. And he is in danger of heart
:38:13. > :38:18.failure. I think this is an emergency. He might crash very soon.
:38:18. > :38:23.We need to call a surgeon. This is only a dummy and just a training
:38:23. > :38:28.exercise. On a scale of 1-10, how big a procedure is this? This is
:38:28. > :38:32.the biggest emergency you can imagine. The patient is dying when
:38:32. > :38:38.we walk into the room. There is a minute or two during which you can
:38:38. > :38:41.save or lose a life. Do you get that sense of urgency with a
:38:41. > :38:45.simulation? You get it when you walk into the room and see this
:38:45. > :38:49.agitation and the monitor showing the pressure exactly as it would be
:38:49. > :38:55.in a real situation and when you see people doing cardiac massage.
:38:55. > :38:58.It kicks your heart into deep stress. It is like when airline
:38:58. > :39:02.pilots going to simulators and practise a plane crashing. That
:39:02. > :39:06.does not happen very often. This does not happen very often. You may
:39:06. > :39:11.not see it until the first time and then you do not know what to do.
:39:11. > :39:16.The dummy was created by a TV special-effects artist, who honed
:39:16. > :39:20.his skills on programmes like Casualty and Holby City.
:39:20. > :39:25.engineered a sliding Sturnham, so it is very realistic. It is as it
:39:25. > :39:30.would be in a real-life scenario. And there is the heart inside.
:39:30. > :39:35.is the only one in the world. the only one of these in the world.
:39:35. > :39:40.The ultimate special effect. Amazing dummies the hope to save
:39:40. > :39:43.real human lives. The good news is that back at Harefield Hospital, he
:39:43. > :39:47.is feeling fine. I thought the One Show would like to know that I'm
:39:47. > :39:55.making a full recovery. I am just going to have a little map. Good
:39:56. > :40:00.night. He looks better, doesn't he? He looks like you. With better hair.
:40:00. > :40:04.Sarah Jarvis is here. Should people be worried if there is not a dummy
:40:04. > :40:11.in the hospital where they have been admitted? If there is a dummy,
:40:11. > :40:16.you had better hope he is not operating on you. These days,
:40:16. > :40:20.people are so much more carefully supervised. I will be honest. When
:40:20. > :40:24.I was training, the first senior house officer job that I ever did,
:40:24. > :40:28.I was on my own in charge of the coronary care team on the Easter
:40:28. > :40:33.weekend and my consultant was about 100 miles away. It was a very
:40:33. > :40:38.different learning experience. These days, people have to watch so
:40:38. > :40:46.many procedures. Let's check on the relative health stories of the
:40:46. > :40:50.panel this evening. You are aware of Willem Dafoe's brother. I have
:40:50. > :40:54.no idea how he escaped to the medical Gina. You have five sisters
:40:54. > :41:00.who are nurses, a father who was a doctor, a brother who I have heard
:41:00. > :41:04.of, a famous pancreas transplant surgeon, curing people of diabetes,
:41:04. > :41:12.revolutionary stuff. And his great uncle develop the first ever
:41:12. > :41:17.surviving quintuplets in the world, now 77. Christmas round your house!
:41:17. > :41:22.They all talk about saving lives. What have you been up to? A couple
:41:22. > :41:27.of Oscar nominations. If somebody fainted at a Christmas party at
:41:27. > :41:31.your house, there would be fighting to get in there. Is there not a
:41:31. > :41:35.doctor in the house? I grew up with my mother, who had a terrible fear
:41:36. > :41:45.of one of us choking, she said, I want to teach you how to do their
:41:46. > :41:46.
:41:46. > :41:54.tracheotomy. You really just have to find the spot and take a knife...
:41:54. > :42:01.She said, it will take a lot of courage. But it will save a life.
:42:01. > :42:07.You are like Superman nowadays. have two resurfaced HIPs, a section
:42:07. > :42:15.of Mike Tholen was taken out. -- a section of my intestine was taken
:42:15. > :42:20.out. Show them your entrails! surgeon took a photograph of my
:42:20. > :42:26.entrails, my bowels up in my stomach. Which he sent out as
:42:26. > :42:36.Christmas cards. You are looking good. Are you healthy, Michael?
:42:36. > :42:40.
:42:40. > :42:45.Reasonably healthy... OK, that's fine. Now it is time for some pie
:42:45. > :42:51.action. We reckon that viewers could knock up a mean pie. Next
:42:51. > :42:59.week it is National pie Week. Three of them have reached the final of
:43:00. > :43:04.the One Show pie competition. Pies, a British Classic. A good pie
:43:04. > :43:08.is dense and substantial. It looks simple but making a good one is
:43:08. > :43:12.anything but. Pies have been devoured since the Middle Ages and
:43:12. > :43:16.there is no sign of their popularity waning. One supermarket
:43:16. > :43:21.is reporting pie sales at a 30 year high. We sifted through your
:43:21. > :43:25.recipes and we are down to the final 31 show pie makers. They will
:43:26. > :43:33.have to impress me and my fellow judge, chef and broadcaster Angela
:43:33. > :43:37.Gray. Pie is a beautiful thing, isn't it? It can be. For me, it is
:43:37. > :43:40.a good pastry, short crust, you name it, as long as it is made well.
:43:40. > :43:47.When you get to the middle, hopefully it will be full-on with
:43:47. > :43:53.flavour. Fingers crossed today. First, Susie from Somerset. It is a
:43:53. > :43:57.posh pie with roasted partridge and pears, soaked in pear cider. It is
:43:57. > :44:01.something I invented for Christmas. I had had a glass of wine and I
:44:01. > :44:06.started singing Christmas songs. You got to the partridge in a pear
:44:06. > :44:10.tree, so this is a recipe build from drunkenness. Exactly.
:44:10. > :44:20.Partridge is lovely, but difficult to cook well because it can get
:44:20. > :44:22.
:44:22. > :44:27.very dry. I am making a source. She tops the creation with a
:44:27. > :44:32.rosemary crust. Next, Alice from Herefordshire. It is a marriage
:44:32. > :44:37.made in heaven, with steak and stout. It is two and a half hours
:44:37. > :44:42.on the hob, but the surprise is her short crust pastry. A year ago I
:44:42. > :44:49.had never made pastry in my life. Just 12 months ago. And she is
:44:49. > :44:57.giving it a bit of a kick. It is horseradish. 1, two. It is actually
:44:57. > :45:01.quite a lot of horseradish, isn't it? 3, four. Let's hope that does
:45:01. > :45:07.not blow our heads off! Finally, Rachel from Cheshire, whose pie is
:45:07. > :45:12.made of potatoes, shallots and local beef. It is from the shoulder.
:45:12. > :45:21.It goes very tender. It sounds like you are a believer in keeping it
:45:21. > :45:29.simple. Yes, very traditional. not complicate the pie.
:45:29. > :45:38.Time is up. Now for the tasting. OK, shall we start with the partridge
:45:38. > :45:43.and Pere pie. The flavour is very good. It certainly works. The
:45:43. > :45:50.fruitiness from the pair is lovely. The pastry is good. It is lovely,
:45:50. > :45:56.really crumbly, very short. Now we come to Alice's beef in stout Piet
:45:57. > :46:02.with horseradish pastry. I really like that. I love the horseradish
:46:02. > :46:11.in the pastry, and I think the filling... Really good, meaty
:46:11. > :46:18.flavour. Let's move on to the beef and shallots pie. You can actually
:46:18. > :46:26.taste pure beef in that. I love it. It has a good crunch. This is a
:46:26. > :46:29.difficult one. We shall have to deliberate. This has been the
:46:29. > :46:39.closest cookery competition we have run but they had to be a winner.
:46:39. > :46:45.
:46:45. > :46:48.They had to be a pie that was the Rachel. Rachel's beef, shallots and
:46:48. > :46:58.potato pie might have been simple, but that is what allow the flavours
:46:58. > :47:02.
:47:02. > :47:12.Congratulations to Rachel, The One Show pie winner. We have a prize
:47:12. > :47:16.
:47:16. > :47:26.for you. The pie is gorgeous. Then you have prepared a special pie for
:47:26. > :47:28.
:47:28. > :47:32.Michael and Terry? Yes, with a foot on it. Now, you do lots of home
:47:32. > :47:39.cooking, Rachel. But there is one person in your family who really
:47:39. > :47:47.appreciates your food? Yes, my grandad, who is 96. He loves fish
:47:47. > :47:54.pie. What is his name? Raymond homes Fletcher. Good evening,
:47:54. > :47:58.Raymond. Have you made this pie for him? Yes, he has got one tonight.
:47:58. > :48:06.Willem, you love your food it. Don't you spend half your time in
:48:06. > :48:15.Rome? Yes, I am half-Italian. I knew that when I wake up and the
:48:15. > :48:20.first thing I think of is food. Favourite Italian dish? I like
:48:20. > :48:26.mostly simple stuff, fish and vegetables. The better the
:48:26. > :48:32.ingredients, the less you have to do to them. It is national pie week
:48:32. > :48:37.next week. Enjoy. But we have some breaking news about pasties.
:48:37. > :48:41.Yes, it is also a huge day in the world of pasties tomorrow, because
:48:41. > :48:49.it is the world's first ever World Pasty Championships. They take
:48:49. > :48:52.place at the Eden Project, with competitors from around the world.
:48:52. > :48:59.Contender Beverley Milner from Camelford has sent us this sweet
:48:59. > :49:04.and savoury miners' pasty. Conditionally eaten by miners
:49:04. > :49:10.during a long shift underground, it contains beef and potato at one end
:49:10. > :49:18.and apple at the other. Ann Whelan has got some breaking American
:49:18. > :49:23.pasty news. This is a lamb and mint pasty made
:49:23. > :49:28.by 68-year-old Mike Amery, who has travelled all the way from
:49:28. > :49:36.Pennsylvania to Cornwall for the competition. He lost, apparently.
:49:36. > :49:41.It is the Willem Defoe show, everyone! This is some job, pies
:49:41. > :49:49.and pasties. Congratulations again, Rachel. Michael, we know you are
:49:49. > :49:53.fighting fit. How often do you run? I try and do it twice a week.
:49:53. > :49:57.Tonight, we are looking for runners to take part in our mammoth Sport
:49:57. > :50:05.Relief challenge. Lots of you have already applied to do a mile each,
:50:05. > :50:09.but not enough. Please apply. Those chosen will get a personal fund-
:50:09. > :50:12.raising where page and a very fetching T-shirt. If you are
:50:12. > :50:17.anywhere near any of the prices shown on this map or you can get to
:50:17. > :50:21.them easily, from Ledbury to London, why not take part in the Challenge?
:50:21. > :50:27.We still have gaps to fill in Scotland and the north-east. You
:50:27. > :50:33.can apply at the Sport Relief website. You will also find
:50:33. > :50:38.information there on other Sport Relief Mile events. Now,... Can we
:50:38. > :50:48.just say, there is going to be a hopathon. We will be doing that
:50:48. > :50:55.
:50:55. > :51:01.later. Don't blow the end of the show! He does like to take over.
:51:01. > :51:06.Astonishing Eurovision news now that Engelbert Humperdinck is to...
:51:06. > :51:10.Hopping for Britain! And no, he will represent Britain at this
:51:10. > :51:16.year's Eurovision contest. And his first live TV interview will be on
:51:16. > :51:21.this show. He was huge in the '70s, and now he is in his '70s. But that
:51:21. > :51:26.decade was a funny time in music, wasn't it, Carrie?
:51:26. > :51:33.And the beginning of 1979, at every pop radio station in the country
:51:33. > :51:38.was playing a novelty record called Car 67. Everyone knew it. It was
:51:38. > :51:46.even rumoured that the Queen Mother was a fan, because she liked the
:51:46. > :51:53.human story. Carr 67 was the sad tale of a heartbroken cabbie,
:51:53. > :51:57.discovering his next fare was the girlfriend who had just dumped him.
:51:57. > :52:03.I was a really bad cab driver, probably the worst London has ever
:52:03. > :52:08.seen. But the song came out then. Paul Phillips was a music
:52:08. > :52:12.journalist who hoped to forge his own performing career. But as many
:52:12. > :52:21.aspiring artists have found, it meant getting a second job. In
:52:21. > :52:25.Paul's case, driving a cab. Michael Symes was car 67. I was that driver
:52:25. > :52:29.-- might call sign was car 67. And I thought, what if you had to pick
:52:29. > :52:35.up somebody who you did not want to? And then the song was in my
:52:35. > :52:41.head. It was complete fiction. Convinced he had a hit, Paul parked
:52:41. > :52:50.up the tab for good and went off to make a demo. It was cheap. His band
:52:50. > :52:54.mate and co-writer was Pete, a brilliant instrumentalist. But of
:52:54. > :53:02.course, what everyone remembers about the song is the voice of the
:53:02. > :53:07.Controller, with his strong West Midlands accent. When I was doing
:53:07. > :53:14.the control voice, Pete said, this isn't Shakespeare. You sound like
:53:14. > :53:18.John Gielgud. So I said, what do you want me to be? He said, put an
:53:18. > :53:25.accent on. Do where you come from. And I am from Wolverhampton, so I
:53:25. > :53:30.did that. But when I went back to Wolverhampton, they said, where did
:53:30. > :53:36.you get that accent from? controller's voice added an exotic
:53:36. > :53:41.player, while the band's name added mystery. It was just Driver 67,
:53:41. > :53:47.which accidentally started intriguing rumours about the band's
:53:47. > :53:52.true identity. It was a big secret. If a picture was taken of me, I had
:53:52. > :53:57.a scarf around my face. Of all things, one speculation was that
:53:57. > :54:02.Eric Clapton was behind it. But the game was up when Driver 67 was
:54:02. > :54:12.invited on Top Of The Pops. Since I was about 14, all I wanted was to
:54:12. > :54:14.
:54:14. > :54:19.be on Top Of The Pops. But it was horrible. I expected that we would
:54:19. > :54:23.stand on stage, and I would play my guitar and sing the song. They did
:54:23. > :54:29.not want me to sing, they wanted me to mind. And they wanted me to mind
:54:29. > :54:37.to the talking bits in front of all these teenage girls. I felt like an
:54:37. > :54:41.idiot. Not the greatest experience. But after the Top Of The Pops
:54:41. > :54:45.experience -- appearance, demand for the record shot up and it sold
:54:45. > :54:50.half a million copies. At first, Paul was delighted with his top ten
:54:50. > :54:55.success, but soon found to his dismay that a Car 67 had run him
:54:55. > :55:01.over. It became clear within a year or so that actually, I was tarred
:55:01. > :55:04.with the one-hit wonder novelty record brushed, and nobody would
:55:04. > :55:08.take me seriously. A bitter row over royalties left him Brooke.
:55:09. > :55:13.Paul gave up song writing and performing, and went back to
:55:13. > :55:18.journalism. 30 years later, he is finally making music again, but
:55:18. > :55:21.still hates to hear that record. People say to me, you were on top
:55:21. > :55:28.of the Pops. You should be proud. And of course I should, because it
:55:28. > :55:37.was what I set out to do. But I just cringe. It is a reminder that
:55:37. > :55:40.that is all I am remembered for. And I wish it wasn't.
:55:40. > :55:46.Well, in honour of Terry and Michael's Ripping Yarns be released
:55:46. > :55:51.on DVD, they will be hosting two world record attempts at a hopathon
:55:51. > :55:56.this Saturday. And people can come along? Please. Parliament Hill
:55:56. > :56:06.running track, 10 tomorrow morning. The few live in Scotland, set off
:56:06. > :56:15.now. So we are going to have our very own boys' event today. --
:56:15. > :56:25.adventure day. This is going to be fun. On Michael's team, we have
:56:25. > :56:28.
:56:29. > :56:34.Sarah and Justin. I come on Michael's team. And Willem is here.
:56:34. > :56:41.And by the way, don't phone, it is just for fun. They are in their
:56:41. > :56:50.motorised bath. You get in the baths, and you drive down to the
:56:50. > :56:59.giant mouth tennis. They have to reverse the bath. Who is going
:56:59. > :57:09.first? Mic and Terry, starting positions, please. Off you go. --
:57:09. > :57:39.
:57:39. > :57:49.Michael and Terry. 5, 4, three, two, See you can get the most in the
:57:49. > :57:54.
:57:54. > :58:01.bath. We could be going off the air mid-game here. Come on, Carrie!
:58:01. > :58:11.Terry to Carrie, Michael to Justin. Deep breaths, calm. Feel a bit of
:58:11. > :58:22.
:58:22. > :58:32.Zen. Carrie, go. Health and safety. Get your hat on. Twice Oscar-
:58:32. > :58:41.
:58:41. > :58:51.nominated Willem Defoe, get in the motorised bath. Come on, Willem.
:58:51. > :58:51.