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:00:20. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

:00:24. > :00:31.Tonight's guest has worshipped at the altar of comedy for years but

:00:31. > :00:41.has transformed himself into a rock god. It is Justin Lee Collins.

:00:41. > :00:41.

:00:42. > :00:47.I've got coffee, it is black, no milk. Great accessories as well.

:00:47. > :00:52.have gone Skull crazy, look at the belt. It is all to get into the

:00:52. > :00:57.part? It is just an affectation. I am not rock'n'roll. I don't drink

:00:57. > :01:03.any more, I am eating the easily, my diet is so full of fibre, I am

:01:03. > :01:10.never off the toilet, it is ridiculous. He lovely. We will talk

:01:10. > :01:17.to you about your brand new rock career. Also joining us, the former

:01:17. > :01:26.boss of MI5, Dame Stella Rimington. She will be revealing how she was

:01:26. > :01:32.recruited into Her Majesty's Secret We realise it is MI6 that James

:01:32. > :01:35.Bond was from, we thought it was worth playing the music. These

:01:35. > :01:39.lanterns have become fashionable at parties, weddings and family

:01:39. > :01:43.celebrations. There is no doubt they light up the sky in a

:01:43. > :01:47.spectacular way, but they could have a darker and potentially more

:01:47. > :01:51.dangerous side. The early hours in Luton. CCTV

:01:51. > :01:55.footage shows a paper lantern floating over a car park. Carried

:01:55. > :02:01.by the breeze, it becomes lodged under a car bumper. Within minutes,

:02:01. > :02:05.a shocking scene unfolds. Soon, the car is well and truly alight. The

:02:05. > :02:11.firefighters bring it under control but the car is a wreck. And this

:02:11. > :02:14.isn't a one-off. In Bury, another car was written off. One Show

:02:14. > :02:20.viewer Jacqueline Webb suspected arson. An investigator and revealed

:02:20. > :02:24.it was a lantern. -- investigation. And Kyle Jones was badly injured by

:02:24. > :02:29.hot wax falling from a lantern, released at a family party. These

:02:29. > :02:32.things are causing quite some controversy. The coastguard blame

:02:32. > :02:36.them on hundreds of false call-outs. The Civil Aviation Authority say do

:02:36. > :02:40.not use them near airports. The National Farmers' Union want an

:02:40. > :02:45.outright ban after numerous reports of animals dying after eating them.

:02:46. > :02:53.There is a fuel cell which you like. The air heats up, and they rise up

:02:53. > :03:03.into the night time Sky -- which The image of lanterns is a powerful

:03:03. > :03:04.

:03:04. > :03:10.one. ITV used them in a Channel by ITV is here in Trowbridge, a

:03:10. > :03:14.Chinese lantern drifted across to this house. -- here in Trowbridge.

:03:14. > :03:19.The whole family was still asleep. The lantern was still light and

:03:19. > :03:26.landed on a park built extension to the rear of the property, next to

:03:26. > :03:30.where two young children were asleep. We had gone to bed on a

:03:30. > :03:37.Saturday night. The next thing I knew, one of the neighbours was

:03:37. > :03:41.banging on the door. St to get out, because the house was on fire. --

:03:41. > :03:46.saying to get out. It is only when I took the children to the garden

:03:46. > :03:50.that we could see the flames are commanded was quite scary,

:03:50. > :03:55.particularly because where the fire was was next to where Amelia had

:03:55. > :04:00.been asleep. The fire brigade found a damaged Chinese lantern on the

:04:00. > :04:04.roof. We were very lucky, because I have two lovely children, and I

:04:04. > :04:08.think things could have been very different. Firefighter Glyn Moody

:04:08. > :04:12.was there on the night and is the investigating officer. Without the

:04:12. > :04:16.neighbours noticing that the time they did, I think two or three

:04:16. > :04:19.hours later, we had the potential for this to have been a fatal fire

:04:19. > :04:22.with three occupants in the house. The Chief Fire Officers'

:04:22. > :04:27.Association is calling for a government review of the sale and

:04:27. > :04:30.use of Sky lanterns. They say a ban should be looked at seriously,

:04:30. > :04:39.although they recognise there is a balance to be considered, they

:04:39. > :04:43.argue the safety issues outweigh other considerations. Glastonbury.

:04:43. > :04:46.Such are Michael Eavis's concerns about the lanterns, he has banned

:04:46. > :04:49.them from the festival. As people are still sticking them in, he is

:04:50. > :04:54.working with Devon and Somerset Fire Service to minimise the danger

:04:54. > :04:57.they pose. Remnants of lanterns have already killed some of his

:04:57. > :05:03.livestock and the potential danger to people is frightening. I have

:05:03. > :05:08.thousands of tents, 180,000 people or living in tents. Imagine if they

:05:08. > :05:11.catch fire, with the wind going, the fire goes from one turned to

:05:11. > :05:15.another, you have a huge problem. They should be banned, like they

:05:15. > :05:20.are in Germany and Australia, because they are real menace.

:05:20. > :05:23.is no doubt about it, these lanterns look stunning in the night

:05:23. > :05:27.sky. The manufacturers, along with Trading Standards, saying if you

:05:27. > :05:30.are going to use them, follow the safety instructions and then they

:05:30. > :05:35.are safe. With so many stories emerging about how things have gone

:05:35. > :05:41.wrong, it makes you wonder, is now the time that we put the lights out

:05:41. > :05:46.on these lanterns? Justin, you have had a run-in with

:05:46. > :05:53.these Chinese lanterns? I have. Two or three years ago, no one really

:05:53. > :05:58.knew what these things were. It is true. They are pretty new. I know

:05:58. > :06:02.they probably go back hundreds of years in China, but they have not

:06:02. > :06:09.been commonplace in this country until about two or three years ago.

:06:09. > :06:14.We had a garden party in the summer. All my family were there. At about

:06:14. > :06:22.midnight, there were about eight of us left. Me and my cousin of

:06:22. > :06:27.Mavis... That is true... She will be watching. And her now husband,

:06:27. > :06:32.Andy, and to be fair, we had all had a drink, and it was quite late.

:06:32. > :06:38.I swear, I look up into the night sky, and there, hovering above

:06:38. > :06:45.Clifton Suspension Bridge is what I thought, at the time, to be about

:06:45. > :06:54.eight UFOs. I am looking and pointing like a caveman, and I said,

:06:54. > :06:57.look, can you see? We are all stood there, agog, looking at these eight

:06:57. > :07:02.unidentified flying objects flying in formation. But then they slowly

:07:02. > :07:06.changed, and clearly, they burn out and disappear. But I think at the

:07:06. > :07:14.time, that they have just flown off at breakneck speed. The following

:07:14. > :07:19.day, the front page of the Bristol Evening Post was Chinese lanterns.

:07:19. > :07:22.And William Bones is to thank for that. You are here from

:07:22. > :07:30.Resuscitation Council UK, it is important to say that yours were

:07:30. > :07:35.not the one featured in the film -- you are here from Sky Orb Lanterns.

:07:35. > :07:39.It was a great film. It highlights that the Chinese lanterns, the Sky

:07:39. > :07:43.Orbs should be used in a responsible way. If you follow the

:07:43. > :07:46.safety advice on the packaging, it is going to be fine. You say that

:07:46. > :07:51.yours are safer than others that are out there. Yours is this red

:07:51. > :07:58.one. Let's start with the white one, why are they not safe? The first

:07:58. > :08:03.thing about it, the actual balloon itself will burn. If you flick back

:08:03. > :08:09.to the clip, the balloon that came down on the car was already a light.

:08:09. > :08:12.Ours won't do that because it is a flame retardant balloon. The next

:08:12. > :08:17.thing is, the fuel cell, if you look at the White one, that is

:08:17. > :08:22.separate. You have to attach that to the wire frame, which is going

:08:22. > :08:28.to mean it is prone to fall off. That is made from wax, which we saw

:08:28. > :08:33.on the child's face. Yes, or something similar to it. On the Sky

:08:33. > :08:38.Orbs balloon, it is a solid sell, made from cardboard and cotton. It

:08:38. > :08:42.is already attached securely to the balloon, so it is not going to fall

:08:42. > :08:45.off. The only time that will come down is when it has burned out.

:08:45. > :08:50.They have been banned in Australia and Germany so there is obviously a

:08:50. > :08:54.reason for it. Quite right. In Australia, it is a tinder dry

:08:54. > :08:58.country a lot of the time. Actually, the ban has been lifted in Germany,

:08:58. > :09:03.that happened in January. instructions say you should not

:09:03. > :09:06.like them and let them go if the wind is more than five mph, but to

:09:06. > :09:13.the average person, how do you know when the wind is over five miles

:09:13. > :09:18.per hour? Most people can walk at 5 mph, Justin can probably warble at

:09:18. > :09:23.three, with a drink. If you let go a normal balloon, if you can look

:09:23. > :09:31.after it, fine. If you can't catch it, don't do it. The leaves blowing

:09:31. > :09:35.in the trees will give you a good idea. Thank you. It is date two of

:09:35. > :09:43.our series looking at Britain's biggest wildlife rescue hospitals.

:09:43. > :09:47.This film's Features herons, haemorrhoid cream and baby shrews.

:09:47. > :09:53.What I love about Iggy winkles is the animals seem to love it here,

:09:53. > :10:03.even the wild ones. This is the outside ashtray, and nesting inside

:10:03. > :10:07.here are blue tits. Amazing. But not all wildlife adapt so well to

:10:08. > :10:14.living alongside humans. I am on a call-out with Les, to a heron that

:10:14. > :10:19.has got himself into a tangle looking for food. Poor chap. The

:10:19. > :10:24.net was covering the whole of the pond, to try to keep the Heron off.

:10:24. > :10:31.They will poke your eyes out. heron is extremely distressed, so

:10:31. > :10:36.we need to work quickly. Am I allowed to go in? Yes, go on.

:10:36. > :10:40.about your neck. The Heron's neck can reach a third of a metre, and

:10:40. > :10:48.with fish in a garden pond easy to catch, it is a common hunting

:10:48. > :10:54.ground. Is this a common thing? is. What you do with the parents,

:10:54. > :11:00.hold the head, tucked in under the arm, bring his legs up, he is

:11:00. > :11:06.soaking wet. It looks like the wing is injured, so he is taken back to

:11:06. > :11:11.the hospital, where vet can it assess the extent of the damage.

:11:11. > :11:14.The biggest danger is that it cuts off the blood supply, and the wing

:11:14. > :11:20.below that can die off. We will give drugs to increase the blood

:11:20. > :11:25.flow to the tip of the wing, and that is about all we can do.

:11:25. > :11:31.cream Joe is applying is usually used for a very different problem.

:11:31. > :11:35.Haemorrhoid cream, his idea was that? I think it is one of the

:11:35. > :11:39.ticket winkles innovations. When we started all of this, nobody had

:11:39. > :11:43.dealt with wildlife. You get this injury to the wing tips quite often.

:11:44. > :11:48.It helps to get the blood circulating, haemorrhoid cream. We

:11:48. > :11:52.use it quite a lot. Luckily, the wing is a broken, but if the blood

:11:52. > :11:56.isn't reaching the wing-tip, he could still lose it. The next

:11:56. > :12:00.couple of days are crucial, and we will find out how he is getting on

:12:00. > :12:05.late in the week. As soon as one animal has been treated, more

:12:05. > :12:13.arrive, and next up, a batch of new bonds that were dug up on a

:12:13. > :12:17.construction site. What is in the pot? 10 baby shrews. Oh, my word.

:12:17. > :12:21.Shrews, like them more cousins, have a voracious appetite, so

:12:21. > :12:31.having been separated from their mother for while, these guys will

:12:31. > :12:32.

:12:32. > :12:37.They will probably be needed fed every hour, and through the night.

:12:37. > :12:43.They have very high metabolisms and need food constantly. How do you

:12:43. > :12:48.feed a baby is true? I ask that, but look what we have got here -- a

:12:48. > :12:58.baby Shrew. You can use a paint brush, or we have these, which have

:12:58. > :12:58.

:12:58. > :13:02.a very fine tip. The cotton buds is to help to toilet them. They should

:13:02. > :13:07.be eating solids in a week and then they will be out on their staple

:13:07. > :13:12.diet of insects. For now, they are dependent on us. I think I have got

:13:12. > :13:19.my work cut out today, I am going to be here a while. Right, open

:13:19. > :13:23.wide. Hopefully, I won't be here all night, because tomorrow we meet

:13:23. > :13:29.an old friend, and his new friends, and release baby hairs back into

:13:29. > :13:34.the wild. Wonderful. We will let you know if

:13:34. > :13:39.the haemorrhoid cream has worked. Justin, you're watching very

:13:39. > :13:48.closely for reasons that will remain nameless. It was the size of

:13:48. > :13:53.a squash ball. OK... We move on to the new musical. Rock of Ages. It

:13:53. > :13:57.was on Broadway, wasn't it? It has been a big hit on Broadway and I

:13:57. > :14:01.saw it on Broadway. I went a couple of months ago. I was sent the

:14:01. > :14:11.script and I had the Broadway cast seedy, but you need to go and see

:14:11. > :14:12.

:14:12. > :14:17.it. Is it the same show? -- cast CD. Yes, references need to be changed.

:14:17. > :14:21.The American references were too fast food references -- restaurants

:14:21. > :14:28.that we won't get. Essentially it is the same. They are making it

:14:28. > :14:33.into a film. Tom Cruise is in the film. There he is. Looking very

:14:33. > :14:40.thin. Alec Baldwin plays the part you are going to play for the yes,

:14:40. > :14:43.he plays Dennis, the nightclub owner. Everything is set in the 80s.

:14:43. > :14:52.He owns the Birgen nightclub and they are trying to take his club

:14:52. > :14:57.Are you miffed that you have missed out on the chance of getting in the

:14:57. > :15:07.film? Yes. I mean, I love Alec Baldwin, but I could do the film.

:15:07. > :15:07.

:15:07. > :15:14.There could be a Rock Of Ages two. I could be like Maxwell in Greece.

:15:14. > :15:17.You started rehearsals today today Yesterday was the first day I met

:15:17. > :15:22.the company. We introduced ourselves, what part

:15:22. > :15:25.you are doing and we did a read- through. I got very excited about

:15:25. > :15:29.the read-through. You hear about people getting together on film and

:15:30. > :15:34.they sit together and have a read- through. We did the read-through

:15:34. > :15:38.yesterday. Today, it was leotards on and let's get dancing.

:15:38. > :15:43.You say you have never done it before, but you were in Chicago. It

:15:43. > :15:50.was a spin-off of a television series you did? It was about three

:15:50. > :15:54.years ago and I auditioned for Chicago. They gave me the part for

:15:54. > :15:58.two day, she days in two days. It was a shorter run than what I'm

:15:58. > :16:08.doing now. Well, we have got a clip.

:16:08. > :16:17.

:16:17. > :16:21.Have you? Yes. Never even know.

:16:22. > :16:28.Hit that note, I never thought I would get that note because singing

:16:28. > :16:32.in that musical theatre style which we are not not doing on Rock Of

:16:32. > :16:36.Ages, but for Chicago it is that musical theatre thing. I didn't

:16:36. > :16:41.think I could hit the big, long, clean notes. I remember the first

:16:41. > :16:44.time I rehearsed that song, my frame of reference is Tom Jones.

:16:44. > :16:53.Whereas the note you hear on that clip is big and long and clean

:16:53. > :17:02.which is what it should be, initially I was going # No #

:17:02. > :17:09.People were going, "Don't do Tom Jones.". You have got the moves. We

:17:09. > :17:14.have a special camera. This is you rocking in slow-mo. Action!

:17:14. > :17:18.That's normal speed. And this is you in a slow-mo.

:17:19. > :17:24.like a hair advert. I love that.

:17:24. > :17:28.Smell my hair. Look at it! It smells nice!

:17:28. > :17:31.I love it. We will put that on a DVD for you.

:17:31. > :17:35.Thank you. You have a fine head of hair, but

:17:35. > :17:42.it wasn't always the case, was it? We have a picture of you without!

:17:42. > :17:47.That's me at M&S! Short hair with a flower attached.

:17:47. > :17:54.I had patchy highlights. My mum had this thing about me having

:17:54. > :17:59.highlights. When I was a baby I was blond. My mum loved me blond. When

:17:59. > :18:03.I got to 16 my mum made me have those awful highlights, the patchy

:18:04. > :18:08.highlights and everybody at M&S, "What is going on with your hair?"

:18:08. > :18:15.To be fair I still get that to this day.

:18:15. > :18:20.You go dark in Rock Of Ages. It opens on 31st all.

:18:20. > :18:24.We will be talking to Dame Stella Rimington who became the highest

:18:24. > :18:29.ranking female intelligence officer ever.

:18:29. > :18:35.Ruth Goodman looks at a woman who made the ultimate sacrifice during

:18:35. > :18:41.In 1940, Europe was under German rule. The fight needed to be taken

:18:41. > :18:44.behind enemy lines with a sabotage campaign. In London's Baker Street,

:18:45. > :18:49.a shadowy organisation called the Special Operations Executive was

:18:49. > :18:56.set up to do just that. More than 100 of their aghtsz were killed. --

:18:56. > :19:00.acts were killed. Many women amongst them. The main figure is on

:19:00. > :19:08.the memorial in London. But it is another female spy I'm interested

:19:08. > :19:18.in. There is no memorial, but her story is one of the most fas

:19:18. > :19:22.

:19:22. > :19:25.fascinating -- fascinating. This was set-up which Winston

:19:25. > :19:33.Churchill to help sabotage the Germans and help the French

:19:33. > :19:37.resistance. They are luxury flats now, but I got a look inside.

:19:37. > :19:47.walls would have been covered with maps of Paris and the agents would

:19:47. > :19:48.

:19:48. > :19:54.be familiarising themselves with it. As the family lived in Paris until

:19:54. > :19:58.they led to London on the outbreak of war.

:19:58. > :20:02.She believed in non violence, but she was opposed to halfs happening

:20:02. > :20:05.and -- what was happening and what was going on. She decided to be

:20:05. > :20:10.involved. She joined the Women's Auxiliary

:20:10. > :20:16.Airforce, but was soon identified as an ideal recruit for SOE.

:20:16. > :20:19.She spoke fluent French. She knew the area well and she was a trained

:20:19. > :20:24.radio operator. The recruiting officer just saw her and knew she

:20:24. > :20:27.was right for the job. He told her, "You will be sent as an agent to

:20:27. > :20:33.France. You won't be in uniform. There is no protection. If you are

:20:33. > :20:39.caught, you will be shot. Will you take the job?" She said yes.

:20:39. > :20:43.Agents were given rigorous training. If they had a filling which is not

:20:43. > :20:47.right, it would be replaced with a gold plug as they did in the

:20:47. > :20:51.Continent. Everything is checked out. Of course, there is the cover

:20:51. > :20:57.stories. They go with their cover stories so that nothing is left to

:20:57. > :21:02.chance. Nour was given the codename

:21:02. > :21:07.Madeline. Her mission was to be a radio operator in Paris.

:21:07. > :21:10.It was one of the most dangerous jobs. Life expectancy for radio

:21:10. > :21:13.operators was just six weeks. They were the links between London

:21:13. > :21:19.and France. Without the wireless messages, the RAF don't know where

:21:19. > :21:26.to send the supplies. Without the wireless operator, the leader can't

:21:26. > :21:31.be instructed as to to where to attack and where not to attack.

:21:31. > :21:37.Sending messages was a long winded process with equipment that was

:21:37. > :21:41.tricky to use and the Gestapo were always on the hunt for radio

:21:41. > :21:44.operators in Paris. However well trained you are, every

:21:44. > :21:47.moment is a test. When she arrived, she was going to work for one of

:21:47. > :21:50.the biggest networks going. Tragically, within days of her

:21:50. > :21:55.arriving, the Germans penetrated the network, crippling the

:21:55. > :21:58.organisation and leaving her exposed and really this means that

:21:58. > :22:01.her job is more vital because London needs to know what is

:22:01. > :22:05.happening and she is the person who was able to send the messages back.

:22:05. > :22:10.No matter how important she was, her bosses thought it was too

:22:10. > :22:15.dangerous for her to continue. She was told to return to London. She

:22:15. > :22:21.refused and carried on transmitting. She was now the only radio operator

:22:21. > :22:29.left in Paris. She was to pay for her bravery when she was captured.

:22:29. > :22:35.. Noor made repeated attacks to leave the Gestapo.

:22:35. > :22:41.She was labelled as a highly dangerous prisoner. Noor had it

:22:41. > :22:45.worse. It was tortured, beaten and kicked and finally gunned at the

:22:45. > :22:55.the become of her head and she was shot, but her spirit remained and

:22:55. > :22:56.

:22:56. > :23:02.she went down saying, "liberty.". Noor was given the George Cross.

:23:02. > :23:07.Noor's efforts are typical of agents to risked their lives and

:23:07. > :23:14.according to the General, it played a considerable part in the complete

:23:14. > :23:22.and final victory over Hitler's Stella joined us here. Is that the

:23:22. > :23:25.first time you heard Noor's story? There were a lot of women. They

:23:25. > :23:28.recruited women because they thought they wouldn't be noticed,

:23:28. > :23:34.but in her case, she was noticed and quickly too.

:23:34. > :23:40.How were you drafted in to the Secret Service? It sounds

:23:40. > :23:42.intriguing? Well, I was recruited in the late 1960s. You had to wait

:23:42. > :23:47.for somebody to tap you on the shoulder.

:23:47. > :23:52.Really? What were you doing at the time? I was the wife of a British

:23:52. > :23:58.diplomat and I was doing what diplomats wives did which was

:23:58. > :24:06.running coffee mornings when somebody sideled up to me and said,

:24:06. > :24:07."Do you want to be a spy?" Or something like that anyway!

:24:07. > :24:10.LAUGHTER Wasn't in the first instance they

:24:10. > :24:14.said do you want to be a typist? offered me a job as a part-time

:24:14. > :24:18.clerk typist in a small office that MI5 had in New Delhi and and that's

:24:18. > :24:25.what I did. I didn't know anything about MI5 and I found that's what I

:24:25. > :24:29.joined. I was there typing his reports back to London. When we

:24:29. > :24:33.left India, I thought this looks like an exciting job. I applied for

:24:33. > :24:37.a full-time job and I discovered I joined a service that was really

:24:37. > :24:40.male dominated in those days. The women women had their own career

:24:40. > :24:44.structure and we were limited really to working with the papers

:24:44. > :24:48.and you know doing the clerking and stuff and the men went out and did

:24:48. > :24:53.the sharp end work. How did you rise to the top? Well,

:24:53. > :24:56.during the 70s, it was the 70s by the time I started. Women's lib

:24:56. > :25:02.came along and there were women like me with degrees and such like

:25:02. > :25:05.and we started to say, "Hang on, why can't we do the sharp end work

:25:05. > :25:08.like the men?" Our bosses puffed their pipes and scratched their

:25:08. > :25:14.heads and they didn't have a good answer. Some of us were allowed to

:25:14. > :25:19.try our hand at the intelligence gathering work so we went on from

:25:20. > :25:26.strength to strength. Now women are doing all the work of the service

:25:26. > :25:29.and and equally with the men. "Girl power".

:25:29. > :25:34.Providing variety. You have drawn on your experiences

:25:34. > :25:39.to write a series of books. The character Liz Carlisle and you have

:25:39. > :25:43.a new book out, haven't you? It is out this month and it is the sixth

:25:43. > :25:50.in the series and Liz Carlisle is in all of them. Liz Carlisle is a

:25:50. > :25:54.modern MI5 officer. She didn't didn't join by being tapped on the

:25:54. > :25:58.shouder and saw what jobs there are and she applied on the website. She

:25:58. > :26:02.joined a service where men and women are equal. She leads a small

:26:02. > :26:04.team of people who go out and solve some of the problems, you know,

:26:04. > :26:09.that face the intelligence services now.

:26:09. > :26:12.Did you always know that you were going to put the stories down and

:26:12. > :26:19.you wanted to write books? Well, it is something I wanted to do. I used

:26:19. > :26:29.to think about writing thrillers. I have always been a thriller reader.

:26:29. > :26:34.So when when five or six years I left, the first thing I wrote was

:26:34. > :26:38.my my autobiography and and then I decided to have a go at the novels

:26:38. > :26:45.and I have been having a go since. Stella, given your intelligence

:26:45. > :26:52.training, we we wondered who out of you and Justin would be the best of

:26:52. > :27:02.spotting an imposter in a group of people. We have a challenge.

:27:02. > :27:02.

:27:02. > :27:07.We would like you both to play rock god or mock god?

:27:07. > :27:17.Among the crew of rockers there is a proper legend who appeared on Top

:27:17. > :27:21.

:27:21. > :27:26.of the Pops. Right, here they are, we have Rock Climber. Rock on Tommy.

:27:26. > :27:33.Any ideas? Any thoughts, Stella? I'm going for Rocky Road.

:27:33. > :27:39.We are looking for Steve Dawson. Justin, what do you think of number

:27:39. > :27:42.one? I've met Saxon. The most

:27:42. > :27:46.interesting fact, the most interesting, I mean Saxon are a

:27:46. > :27:54.great band, but one of the many interesting facts about Saxon is

:27:54. > :28:04.they were the main inspiration for Spinal cap tap. That's right.

:28:04. > :28:06.

:28:06. > :28:09.I worked with Saxon once. I met Saxon.

:28:09. > :28:12.You are saying not number one then. I met the base player. Bearing in

:28:12. > :28:16.mind Saxon, Spinal Tap were based on Saxon and I met the base player

:28:16. > :28:22.on a shoot and it was 10am and a young runner came up to me and said,

:28:22. > :28:28."Guys can I get you a drink?" The base player from Saxon said, "Can I

:28:28. > :28:34.have a beer?". We are going to have to push you. It is number three.

:28:34. > :28:38.Is that the one I chose? Number three.

:28:38. > :28:48.I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Three, I'm wrong.

:28:48. > :28:49.

:28:49. > :28:54.Can the real rock god step forward, please?