:00:31. > :00:40.Hello and welcome. They tried to ban them in France but not over here. We
:00:40. > :00:45.are asking why some British parents think it's OK to enter children as
:00:45. > :00:50.young as three or four years old into beauty pageants. You can say
:00:50. > :00:52.whether you agree or not. Also, we'll be finding out what British
:00:52. > :00:54.wrestling legend Big Daddy was we'll be finding out what British
:00:54. > :01:00.as a real father. And we we'll be finding out what British
:01:00. > :01:10.nervous, as both mine and Matt's mums are here. Hello, mums! Whose
:01:10. > :01:15.mum is whose? And a big shout out to all the dads who are at home holding
:01:15. > :01:19.the fort. Joining us are two of the nation's favourite performers. It's
:01:19. > :01:38.Emma Thompson and Sandi Toksvig. Nice to see you both. A lovely,
:01:38. > :01:46.theatrical entrance. And lovely outfits. We've gone for the boot
:01:46. > :01:58.thing today. I've gone for the farm look. We've got a mums theme
:01:58. > :02:06.tonight. We were wondering what type of mums you are, are you Tiger mums?
:02:07. > :02:12.That is a pushy mother. No. All my children are taller than me, so it's
:02:12. > :02:18.impossible to tell them what to do. What age did they overtake you?
:02:18. > :02:23.About four. I don't know if you've heard about this very difficult
:02:23. > :02:26.parenting situation. The Burgesses are a rugby mad family. They are out
:02:26. > :02:30.in Australia, four brothers playing rugby league out there. Three of the
:02:30. > :02:36.lads have been selected to play for England, so mum, Julie, how on earth
:02:36. > :02:40.does she console the brother who hasn't been selected? That
:02:40. > :02:46.does she console the brother who going to have a lot more sex. That's
:02:46. > :02:50.the only thing I can think of. And probably keep more of his own
:02:50. > :02:55.cartilage than his brothers. You've always got to look for the positive.
:02:55. > :03:01.Sex and cartilage, what more could always got to look for the positive.
:03:01. > :03:12.you want? ! Will be talking about Emma's new book later and Sandi's
:03:12. > :03:15.new tour. Now a question for you. They've changed your nappy, kissed
:03:15. > :03:17.your knee when you fell over and make sure you studied hard for your
:03:17. > :03:21.exams, but what would happen if your make sure you studied hard for your
:03:21. > :03:26.mum came to work with you for a week? One British businesses finding
:03:26. > :03:30.out. Its boss admits the office doesn't run as smoothly as it could,
:03:30. > :03:36.so we suggested he gets some help and test out if really does best. --
:03:36. > :03:53.if mum really does know best. This is one of Britain's most
:03:53. > :04:01.successful online job site. This is John Sold, the director. He is
:04:01. > :04:06.always there when the staff need him, and sometimes when they don't.
:04:06. > :04:11.We have about 350 people working here, the core of which are
:04:11. > :04:14.salespeople. We have the ad agency, the international sales department.
:04:14. > :04:18.Online recruitment is hugely competitive, and John is always
:04:18. > :04:24.looking for that little something to stay ahead. We have the graduate
:04:24. > :04:28.team here, future talent teams. John feels that total jobs runs like a
:04:28. > :04:33.slightly dysfunctional family. And he's got the analogy to prove it.
:04:33. > :04:37.When you look at a group of salespeople like this, it's bit like
:04:37. > :04:42.a barrel of broken biscuit -- 's kids. They've all got some kind of
:04:42. > :04:46.floor in them. They are all slightly damaged goods. At the end of the
:04:46. > :04:50.day, a good biscuit is still a good biscuit. This office of broken
:04:50. > :05:01.biscuits are about to get the dumping of their lives. John! John
:05:01. > :05:06.is setting aside expensive consultants and instead is inviting
:05:06. > :05:11.in three of his staff's mums, along with his very own mother-in-law, to
:05:11. > :05:14.see if mums can make business sense. We've had to learn to live with each
:05:14. > :05:20.other. At times it has been fantastic and at times it has been
:05:20. > :05:32.quite stressful. Sheila in three words? Never wrong, ever. We have
:05:32. > :05:36.fought bitterly and at times emotionally, write to the end of the
:05:36. > :05:41.path and then come all the way back to the beginning again. So could
:05:41. > :05:45.this be the worst managerial decision John has ever made? I'd be
:05:45. > :05:50.lying if I said I wasn't nervous. People might not get her very unique
:05:50. > :05:54.sense of humour. But that is something this New Age businessman
:05:54. > :05:57.can live with for the sake of the company. If it makes our people
:05:57. > :06:00.happier, I think other customers will want to do more business with
:06:00. > :06:05.us. Happy people equals happy customers equals profit. John has
:06:05. > :06:08.chosen three key personalities in the office who he thinks would
:06:08. > :06:15.profit from a dose of their own mums. I'm really excited to see if
:06:15. > :06:20.mum is really know best. Ryan is one of the online sales team leaders. My
:06:20. > :06:24.team would describe me as a bit of a slave driver. Quite sharp in the
:06:24. > :06:32.things I say. I tend to take the make up of people. When Ryan was
:06:32. > :06:35.growing up, he was a complete and utter nightmare because he'd be
:06:35. > :06:39.running all over the place, climbing walls, throwing himself off things.
:06:39. > :06:44.Taking him out was quite stressful. If my mum was in the office, she
:06:44. > :06:51.would be perhaps a much better people person than me. She's just
:06:51. > :06:57.very nice. I really enjoy having Ryan around. It's nice to still have
:06:57. > :07:04.him at home, even at 27. Jill is customer services director. I can't
:07:04. > :07:09.wait for her to come and see where I work, the people I work with. The
:07:09. > :07:13.office is quite messy, I would imagine. She can be a messy child.
:07:13. > :07:17.My mum has her own career. She's 67 imagine. She can be a messy child.
:07:18. > :07:21.but she's working past her retirement. I don't think she's ever
:07:21. > :07:25.worked in an office environment before. I like messing with
:07:25. > :07:32.computers, that is one of the things I'm really looking forward to. I'm a
:07:32. > :07:39.bit of an IT geek. Victoria Works in the future talent team. I don't
:07:39. > :07:43.really know what to expect. She gets really stressed with me. If I try to
:07:43. > :07:49.give her any advice I usually get, mum, you just don't know! I did say
:07:49. > :07:53.to her, I'm entitled to my opinion, I'm your mother. Victoria would
:07:53. > :08:04.say, if mum's way or the highway. With the mothers waiting, it's time
:08:04. > :08:11.for Mother's Day for Total Jobs. I've got your mother-in-law at
:08:11. > :08:16.reception. Coming up... Embarrassing interrogation. I needed to be honest
:08:16. > :08:21.and tell the truth. And boss, John, has the tables turned on him in the
:08:21. > :08:28.boardroom. Do another one weakness, what you think that is? Erm...
:08:28. > :08:31.Sheila and John fought bitterly what you think that is? Erm...
:08:31. > :08:35.the end of the path out of work. Later, we'll be seeing what happens
:08:35. > :08:40.when they were let loose in the office. And they'll be here later.
:08:40. > :08:44.Emma, you've taken your mum, Phyllida Law, to work on many
:08:44. > :08:49.occasion. You more productive when she's around or do you feel more
:08:49. > :08:53.stressed? We didn't really act in scenes together. Because you are
:08:53. > :09:01.sort of on the same level. We are both working for someone. Do you
:09:01. > :09:06.find that you practice out of work? We do. We did one film together, we
:09:06. > :09:12.did the whole script in the car on the way to work every morning. She
:09:12. > :09:17.hated me so much by the end of it. You live across the road from each
:09:17. > :09:20.other. That's handy. We open the front door and we can see into each
:09:20. > :09:25.other's Kitchens. I'm not sure how healthy it is. I'm beginning to
:09:25. > :09:36.think now that I possibly might have to leave home at some point. Maybe
:09:36. > :09:45.not. She just lifted finger, she drags herself over the road. Sandi,
:09:45. > :09:51.what about your mum? You told us about your dad last time, but what
:09:51. > :09:57.about your mum? Reed she is astonishing. She is like a gazelle.
:09:57. > :10:06.She's incredible. She has done three separate university degrees. In art
:10:06. > :10:09.will stop and in English. She's incredible. I never take her to work
:10:09. > :10:14.because mostly I'm sitting writing or doing one-woman shows on stage.
:10:14. > :10:21.It would be boring for her. She'd be on a chair beside me. Do you bring
:10:21. > :10:28.up a lot and ask for advice? She's always there for me. She's my steady
:10:29. > :10:31.rock. We showed you our mums earlier on. Later, we will ask to see
:10:31. > :10:34.rock. We showed you our mums earlier whether you can guess which is
:10:34. > :10:43.Matt's mum and which is my mum. Have a good look. Any hunch at this
:10:43. > :10:53.stage? No, I think you've got a netball team in from the under 21s!
:10:53. > :10:56.Last weekend in Bali, Miss Philippines, Megan Young, one the
:10:56. > :11:00.most famous beauty contest on the planet, Miss World. She was
:11:00. > :11:04.reluctant to receive the crown. She said, it's not about me, it's about
:11:04. > :11:09.making a difference to my country and the world. Nice sentiment. At
:11:09. > :11:14.the same time, kids as young as nine weeks old were getting ready for a
:11:14. > :11:20.much smaller, home-grown competition in Chester. Many feel uneasy about
:11:20. > :11:24.beauty pageants were under 16s, and the French government are trying to
:11:24. > :11:30.ban them. We sent young mum Haley to find out what it takes to become a
:11:30. > :11:33.junior beauty queen. Preparations are under way to address this hotel
:11:33. > :11:41.conference room in time for a stampede of excited children.
:11:41. > :11:43.Today, little girls and even some boys are going to be competing
:11:43. > :11:49.against each other and strutting their stuff on this very catwalk, in
:11:49. > :11:51.the hope of being crowned a winner. Pageants have been huge in the
:11:51. > :11:56.States and are now increasingly popular here. The organisers told us
:11:56. > :12:00.that at this event alone, there are over 100 people. There are also
:12:00. > :12:05.multiple categories, so that every child gets a prize. I've come to
:12:05. > :12:08.meet the Adlington family from Liverpool and their five children,
:12:08. > :12:17.who are going to be competing today to see who is the cutest. We've done
:12:17. > :12:22.who are going to be competing today around ten or 11 pageants so far.
:12:22. > :12:27.who are going to be competing today About one a month. Is that a lot of
:12:27. > :12:29.trouble and expense? It's been quite expensive. We probably spent around
:12:29. > :12:33.£5,000 so far this year. That was expensive. We probably spent around
:12:33. > :12:37.our savings, but it's the kind of thing we would save up for a
:12:37. > :12:41.holiday. There's lots of criticism about putting make-up on children's
:12:41. > :12:45.putt faces, dressing them up, what do you say to those people? If
:12:45. > :12:50.children take part in ballet board do you say to those people? If
:12:50. > :12:55.disco dancing, any of those things, children will wear make-up. It's no
:12:55. > :13:04.different than any dance competition. And the confidence that
:13:04. > :13:07.it's given our children... Willow has always been painfully shy. Since
:13:07. > :13:13.we've done pageants, she's really come out of her shell. Jasmin has
:13:13. > :13:18.had issues about her weight. Since she's been doing pageants, she's
:13:18. > :13:21.really come into her own. You are being judged by the judges but they
:13:21. > :13:25.don't judge you on what you look like. At the last pageant I came
:13:25. > :13:30.first. I was most definitely the biggest girl in the group. So maybe
:13:30. > :13:33.it can be good for their self-esteem. These children will be
:13:33. > :13:37.schooled on their stage presence, personal appearance and overall
:13:37. > :13:40.impression, by a panel of reigning beauty queens, who will also take
:13:40. > :13:44.account of their age. I've never been to one of these before, so I'm
:13:44. > :13:47.not sure what to expect. I'm not quite sure how I feel about it,
:13:47. > :13:58.we'll have to wait and see. I think they are quite young to be
:13:58. > :14:02.dancing the way they are doing. They don't realise it but I do, it makes
:14:02. > :14:07.me feel a bit uncomfortable. The majority of their outfits are pretty
:14:07. > :14:10.clean cut, but I have seen a Pamela Anderson, a Dolly Parton and a
:14:10. > :14:12.clean cut, but I have seen a Pamela Madonna. I'm keen to know if these
:14:13. > :14:17.parents have concerns about putting their kids on the catwalk at such an
:14:17. > :14:23.early age. They are not hurting anyone. It is something that most of
:14:23. > :14:30.the children enjoy, I can't say all of them. She got spray tanned
:14:30. > :14:33.yesterday, she likes it. The mum of this little girl thinks her daughter
:14:33. > :14:40.likes a spray tan, and maybe she does, but is that the point? I
:14:40. > :14:43.couldn't help wondering if kids so young should be getting this kind of
:14:43. > :14:50.beauty treatment. This is about looks. Do you see that as a problem?
:14:51. > :14:56.Nope. I think it's a good thing. I know she's beautiful and she knows
:14:56. > :15:02.she's beautiful. She might as well be competing. Do you ever feel, oh,
:15:02. > :15:07.my little girl is growing up? I think it's the opposite. I think it
:15:07. > :15:14.keeps them young, they are dressing up as princesses. More than pop
:15:14. > :15:18.stars who look older than they are. I didn't realise just how young some
:15:19. > :15:24.of the princesses could be. You must be Jessica. Who is this? Ella is one
:15:24. > :15:31.of the youngest pageant agents. She's weeks old. You entered her
:15:31. > :15:34.even before she was born. Why did you do that? Because there was a
:15:34. > :15:38.even before she was born. Why did category, I thought I'd see how she
:15:38. > :15:42.got on with it. How does it work with the babies? I believe it is
:15:42. > :15:58.judged on cuteness. There is definitely a little girl
:15:58. > :16:02.inside of me who would have loved to have had her hair done, where those
:16:02. > :16:07.frocks and some of the kids in their were really happy. But there's also
:16:07. > :16:10.a parent inside of me now. So is it tasteless or harmless fun? I don't
:16:10. > :16:12.think it's my thing. But I can't deny that both the parents and the
:16:12. > :16:19.think it's my thing. But I can't children here have had a pretty good
:16:19. > :16:23.time. Some interesting vibes coming from the mothers in the studio.
:16:23. > :16:27.Angellica is here. The French government have said they are trying
:16:27. > :16:30.to ban these contests. Strange feelings going through me seeing
:16:30. > :16:37.that film but what is their argument? They wanted to get rid of
:16:37. > :16:42.pageants for under 16-year-olds in France and that came about in 2010,
:16:42. > :16:44.following a report on hyper sexualisation of children. The
:16:44. > :16:49.French Senate voted on a law not sexualisation of children. The
:16:49. > :16:53.only to ban those pageants but also adult style clothing for youngsters.
:16:53. > :16:57.That has gone through, it has been approved but it has not been passed
:16:57. > :17:03.by the National Assembly. Hopefully that will be done this year. In the
:17:03. > :17:06.pageant we saw, there was lots of emphasis on the make up and the Hare
:17:06. > :17:13.and the false lashes, are they all like that? All pageants are not like
:17:13. > :17:17.the one we have seen, they all differ. We have spoken to
:17:17. > :17:22.organisations who say they do not allow make up on the children at
:17:22. > :17:26.all, they say it does not add anything. They also say that they
:17:26. > :17:33.marked down children if they are wearing make up. It is a
:17:33. > :17:39.case-by-case thing. No one would deny that kids like to dress up. But
:17:39. > :17:42.I think the thing that is uncomfortable with me is the
:17:42. > :17:47.competitive element. You have a statement on that. It is difficult
:17:47. > :17:54.when you have your own children. We have spoken to the organiser of Mr
:17:54. > :18:01.and Miss Natural Sparkle who say these conditions are no different to
:18:01. > :18:03.cheerleading competitions. They are different, dancing and cheerleading
:18:03. > :18:09.is after you have put the make up on, there is a point to learning how
:18:09. > :18:14.to dance or cheerlead. Having make up on and being told you are being
:18:14. > :18:23.judged on how you look, really, it seems to me a curious idea of how to
:18:23. > :18:27.value themselves. They say the pageant is about talent and not
:18:27. > :18:32.about how the child looks, it is about the full package. The
:18:32. > :18:38.organisers are not here to defend themselves. I wouldn't be where I am
:18:38. > :18:45.today if it wasn't for the beauty pageant. That is why we have got you
:18:45. > :18:47.on as a guest. Another argument is that it does build confidence and
:18:47. > :18:53.the children will have something to aim for. I am not crazy about rating
:18:53. > :18:58.children on attractiveness, I think all children have some beauty in
:18:58. > :19:06.them and I don't care for it. I remember doing ballet competitions,
:19:06. > :19:14.displays, and I do remember wearing make up. I used to put it on
:19:14. > :19:20.myself, it was alarming. That was all right.
:19:20. > :19:28.We want to know what you think about this in our One Show vote. Remember,
:19:28. > :19:32.it is not in any way scientific, it is more like a flavour of what you
:19:32. > :19:35.are thinking at home. As the French government are in the process of
:19:35. > :19:40.banning beauty pageants for children, we are asking this simple
:19:40. > :19:45.question. Should we ban beauty pageants fundus extremes? -- beauty
:19:45. > :20:11.pageants for under 16 's? Although tonight's show has more
:20:11. > :20:16.month than you can shake a stick at, we still made room for one important
:20:16. > :20:24.daddy. A lot of room for a very big one.
:20:24. > :20:27.My stepdad was Shirley Crabtree, Big Daddy the wrestler, he was a Big
:20:27. > :20:36.Daddy to everybody. He was loving, caring, cuddly, incredibly handsome.
:20:36. > :20:45.He did get vote -- voted sex symbol for the over 80s and he was howling
:20:45. > :20:49.at that! To me, he just looks like this huge giant when I was growing
:20:49. > :20:54.up. I used to put my arms around him like this and eventually, one day, I
:20:54. > :21:00.think because I was getting older, I eventually touched and we were like,
:21:00. > :21:08.yes! I was about two-year 's old when my mum and dad got together. We
:21:08. > :21:12.grew up in Millbank. Uncle Max was a promoter, uncle Brian was a referee.
:21:12. > :21:20.They are all in the wrestling game together. A lot of people thought
:21:20. > :21:23.rattling was a fix. At the end of the day it was entertainment. But
:21:23. > :21:28.the more entertaining the wrestler, the more you remember them. When dad
:21:28. > :21:35.had his first leotard made it was from is the Sethi covers and I can
:21:35. > :21:43.still see that image -- the sofa covers. There was a time when I was
:21:43. > :21:51.bullied at one point, you think you a hard because you are Big Daddy's
:21:51. > :21:55.daughter. That was not the case. My cousin stepped in and made sure I
:21:55. > :21:59.was OK. You're a member when we were mascots? We had the costumes
:21:59. > :22:07.especially made. -- do you remember? Whenever there were family
:22:07. > :22:12.interviews, dad like to have them at the farm. It goes back generations.
:22:12. > :22:17.interviews, dad like to have them at You were a wrestler as well.
:22:17. > :22:20.Unfortunately, yes. I had to keep it in the family but I didn't last too
:22:20. > :22:28.long because it was too heavy work for me. This is where we lived in
:22:28. > :22:33.the heart of the village. We didn't have the fields and the acres that
:22:33. > :22:37.dad's brothers had but he was happy with his little backyard. He was
:22:37. > :22:41.never bothered about material possessions, he was happy to walk
:22:41. > :22:45.about in his tracksuit. He wasn't very money orientated so we rented
:22:45. > :22:52.the house. One time we won holiday in Monte Carlo, he was offered to
:22:52. > :22:57.buy an apartment for next door to Orson Welles for £8,000, imagine how
:22:57. > :23:03.much that would be worth today. Dad used to come out of the house, go
:23:03. > :23:06.into his gym, do his training with a 16 stone dummy. We always knew he
:23:06. > :23:11.was up there because the whole house would shake. Part of his training
:23:11. > :23:15.regime was going to the gym, coming down and sitting in a freezing cold
:23:15. > :23:21.paddling pool. The more famous he got, his paddling pools got ago. My
:23:21. > :23:27.dad had a very clean cut lifestyle -- paddling pools got bigger. It was
:23:27. > :23:31.like a Bonnie and Clyde relationship. My mum was quite a
:23:31. > :23:36.character in the village to say the least. I don't used always say to
:23:36. > :23:39.me, are Jane, if we didn't have each other, we would have no sanity. I
:23:39. > :23:52.always treasure that. One night when dad came home, he had
:23:52. > :23:58.had a bang on the head in the ring. From that night on, you know your
:23:58. > :24:02.own father 100% and I knew from that night, things went downhill from
:24:02. > :24:08.there unfortunately. I got the phone call when I was at work saying that
:24:08. > :24:14.he had had the biggest of all strokes and he had to be carried out
:24:14. > :24:18.of the house by the fire brigade, because he was paralysed down one
:24:18. > :24:25.side. I remember rushing to the hospital and there we were. His
:24:25. > :24:31.first words were, it is my Powell. -- it is my friend. When he died a
:24:31. > :24:35.lot of possessions were auctioned for charity. He had this wrestling
:24:35. > :24:40.belt made to commemorate the thing he had achieved. One quote that sums
:24:40. > :24:44.him up these people have given me more love than any human being is
:24:44. > :24:47.entitled to and for that I am truly dreadful. That says it all about my
:24:47. > :24:53.dad. Big Daddy... We are laughing, it is
:24:53. > :25:04.amazing that his first outfit was made from the sofa cover. I just
:25:04. > :25:13.floated the idea of a lime green mankini.
:25:13. > :25:21.You were saying in the film that you met Big Daddy, was he a gentle
:25:21. > :25:24.giant? People talk about larger-than-life and all those
:25:24. > :25:30.expressions but he was just charming. He knew what he was doing,
:25:30. > :25:36.it was part of show business. Let's talk about your father, Eric
:25:36. > :25:41.Thompson, who we know from the medical runabout stories who -- The
:25:41. > :25:46.Magic Roundabout stories which he narrated. Was it a big deal, growing
:25:46. > :25:54.up in the world of children's literature? Not really, actually. We
:25:54. > :26:00.were quite sniffy about it, oh, yeah, dad. He wrote the stories in
:26:00. > :26:05.front of a little machine that he worked with his feet. They were made
:26:05. > :26:11.by a Frenchman and dad was a complete Francophone, he hated the
:26:11. > :26:21.French. They thought he had called Dougal after Charles de Gaulle.
:26:22. > :26:26.There was antagonism about these puppet films that had been destroyed
:26:26. > :26:33.by this route Englishman who did not write for children ever. He got
:26:33. > :26:38.letters saying that my mother has told me off for calling my sister a
:26:39. > :26:45.mollusc, and having to write back to say it is not a rude word. You have
:26:45. > :26:57.written the Christmas tale of Peter Rabbit. It is so distressing when
:26:57. > :27:01.the C word comes up in October. Is it right that this was inspired by a
:27:01. > :27:04.trip to one of Beatrix Potter's Farms. Yes, she was so
:27:04. > :27:08.extraordinary. We think of her Farms. Yes, she was so
:27:08. > :27:12.perhaps only in relation to the books that she wrote but she was a
:27:12. > :27:15.conservationist. She really was responsible for starting the
:27:15. > :27:19.National trust. She used all the money from those books, she bought
:27:19. > :27:29.these dutiful places. She never actually lived on that farm. She
:27:29. > :27:37.lived at Hilltop. I went up there to do a bit of investigation and I met
:27:38. > :27:45.a turkey. Of remarkable personality. Which you capture Berry well in this
:27:45. > :27:48.book. -- very well in this book. Thank you. Larger-than-life
:27:48. > :27:56.creature, very interesting, determines to be in show business,
:27:56. > :28:00.clearly. It has taken two of us to even sniff at the coat-tails of this
:28:00. > :28:06.genius, all our efforts and years of work to get anywhere near it. He
:28:06. > :28:10.needs Benjamin and Peter -- he meets Benjamin and Peter. He is under the
:28:10. > :28:20.false illusion that he has been asked to dinner as a guest rather
:28:20. > :28:25.than the main course. It is lovely, how the tale of Peter Rabbit came
:28:25. > :28:30.about in book form. It was letters that Beatrix Potter wrote. She had
:28:30. > :28:37.tough, controlling parents. When she was 17, she was accorded a companion
:28:37. > :28:44.called Annie Carter who married, left, probably breaking her heart.
:28:44. > :28:54.And had 1 million children. The first child was called Noel, and he
:28:54. > :29:01.got ill. It is basically the tale of Peter Rabbit. With all the pictures
:29:01. > :29:03.and the writing. It is exquisite. Most of her books were written as
:29:03. > :29:08.and the writing. It is exquisite. letters to children. I think because
:29:08. > :29:12.she was ill when she was a young person as well, she had a real feel
:29:12. > :29:19.for children who were ill, and the way in which she spoke to them
:29:19. > :29:24.wasn't at all patronising. It was very direct and often quite dark. In
:29:24. > :29:28.this case, nine years before the letters were turned into a book and
:29:28. > :29:35.we have the most pitiful artwork. This is original -- the most
:29:35. > :29:42.beautiful artwork. This is original artwork. It is her 111th birthday
:29:42. > :29:47.today. These beautiful watercolours. You can sense the love and the story
:29:47. > :29:57.works so well with the pictures. How are you work with the illustrator?
:29:57. > :29:59.-- how do you work? I write the story and I send it to her. I know
:29:59. > :30:04.-- how do you work? I write the she is such a good illustrator and
:30:04. > :30:08.very good at the animals thinking. Beatrix Potter never has animals
:30:08. > :30:11.doing smiley faces or sad faces, they always look like animals. They
:30:11. > :30:14.are not quite normal because they are wearing clogs but that is the
:30:14. > :30:16.are not quite normal because they only reason, she is very specific.
:30:16. > :30:20.Eleanor does the same thing but I only reason, she is very specific.
:30:20. > :30:25.write things that I know she will enjoy making pictures of because she
:30:25. > :30:30.is such a wonderful illustrator. I wonder how long she would take to
:30:30. > :30:38.paint these pictures. Presumably not long because she didn't know how
:30:38. > :30:41.iconic they would become? All She said the ones that were quick and
:30:41. > :30:47.spontaneous made her happiest. But she does complain later on, when the
:30:47. > :30:51.books had become successful, because she was self published at first, but
:30:51. > :30:55.when they did become successful she became quite, oh, I've got to do
:30:55. > :31:02.another book. And the illustrations were the part that really took the
:31:02. > :31:08.time and were quite hard for her. It changed as she got more successful.
:31:08. > :31:16.The book is out tomorrow. You've got to get them sold. Indeed,
:31:16. > :31:26.absolutely. I'm trying to get everyone in the mood! I want to see
:31:26. > :31:31.what happens at the end. Worrying about the turkey. It's time to
:31:31. > :31:34.return to our new series. One British business is finding out what
:31:34. > :31:43.happens when you bring mothers into the workplace. Website boss John has
:31:43. > :31:47.shunned business consultant in favour of bringing in the mums of
:31:47. > :31:55.three staff members. Much to the amusement of their fellow workers.
:31:55. > :31:58.This is my team and my desk. It's a giant leap forward for mums. The
:31:58. > :32:04.This is my team and my desk. It's a first time they've seen their kids
:32:04. > :32:10.at work. You hear about people bringing their kids into work, mums
:32:10. > :32:20.are quite a different thing to do. This sums you up. Rune I'm only here
:32:20. > :32:25.to look at what you are doing. It will be interesting to get their
:32:25. > :32:32.perspective on things. And really impressed with how tidy your desk
:32:32. > :32:36.is. The boss has appointed his own mother-in-law, Sheila, to spearhead
:32:36. > :32:41.his workplace campaign. And they are both determined not to have a
:32:41. > :32:48.crossword. Why have you never said you work in an area like this? It's
:32:48. > :32:59.just an office. But it's huge. I always imagined you being very small
:32:59. > :33:00.and compact. Sorry! Sheila seems to have abandoned the softly softly
:33:00. > :33:08.approach. Are these all labelled as have abandoned the softly softly
:33:08. > :33:13.Jamaat They probably could do with a clean out. You need to be better
:33:13. > :33:19.organised. Are now on the prowl, protecting their young? Not a bit of
:33:19. > :33:25.it. With clipboards at the ready, they want unsparing detail. I need
:33:25. > :33:33.you to be honest. Does she speak nicely? Some certain phrases are
:33:33. > :33:39.interesting. The majority is nice. That's nice, sort of. Is there
:33:39. > :33:44.anything you could tell me about her antics? We always hear her hangover
:33:44. > :33:49.stories about sleeping on the bathroom tiles. Isn't it great to
:33:49. > :33:55.have friends? How does he let his hair down? He hasn't got any hair.
:33:55. > :33:58.How punctual is Victoria in the morning? Come on, some dirt on her.
:33:58. > :34:10.Now there's time for home truths. Do morning? Come on, some dirt on her.
:34:10. > :34:13.you think Ryan is attractive? No. You can always trust your mother!
:34:13. > :34:20.They do a sweep of the office to gather more information. I felt that
:34:20. > :34:24.the staff looked as -- us as if we had ten heads, because they saw
:34:24. > :34:30.nothing wrong. Sheila waste no time in calling a meeting. Kindly, she
:34:30. > :34:34.invites John into his own boardroom. Your number one weakness on the shop
:34:34. > :34:42.floor, what do you think that is? Well, I probably would have a it's
:34:42. > :34:49.something to do with tidiness around the desks or something to do with
:34:49. > :34:52.the kitchen. She and the other mums are serious about making the company
:34:52. > :34:58.a better place to work. The first step of many relates to the overall
:34:58. > :35:02.impression. The desks, food is just left around. A lot of untidiness.
:35:02. > :35:06.There's a lot of medication. If everyone really poorly that works
:35:06. > :35:15.here as Jamaat A couple of desks, hello? It needs a blitz. We are
:35:15. > :35:20.going to change your habits of a lifetime. But it's only five minutes
:35:20. > :35:25.before the office closes. Oh, my lord! The pool of people we did
:35:25. > :35:34.approach, I felt for them. It's medication. You need to have your
:35:34. > :35:39.headache pills, sorry. For the mums, a clean desk and tidy draws the
:35:39. > :35:43.building blocks for a successful business. I've got tins of baked
:35:43. > :35:49.beans I've had in here for about a year. Although the first policy is
:35:49. > :35:52.universally popular. It's kind of like my mum cleaning my room again.
:35:52. > :35:57.I know where everything is, don't touch it, don't move it. They are
:35:57. > :36:06.going to up their game. Oh, dear, come on! I bought them and then
:36:06. > :36:15.realised I didn't have a tin opener. Look! There's more beans. We have
:36:15. > :36:21.initiated the tidy desk policy and are now going to issue drums of
:36:21. > :36:27.whites. Victory. It might seem small but for the mums, this is their
:36:27. > :36:34.Trafalgar... With wet wipes. Next week, they face up to the truth of
:36:35. > :36:39.their kids' behaviour at work. Sheila's bid to transform the office
:36:39. > :36:44.gathers pace. The thing that really comes home to me as I walk through
:36:44. > :36:47.if the deportment. And will this unique team of consultants really
:36:47. > :36:54.managed to bring some mum sense to this office?
:36:54. > :37:00.There's a whole series there. Sheila and John are here now, they are
:37:00. > :37:06.still speaking. They will be on next and John are here now, they are
:37:06. > :37:12.Wednesday's show again. This has been trialled at Google in the US.
:37:12. > :37:18.Having had a small experience of it, would it work over here? Should it
:37:18. > :37:22.be rolled out across the country? I think so. I was a bit nervous about
:37:22. > :37:28.having my mother-in-law at work, I see enough of her outside of work.
:37:28. > :37:32.More than enough. I do think it helps when people go into somebody's
:37:32. > :37:36.workplace, maybe like here today, they get a sense of what they do,
:37:37. > :37:40.how they do it and who they do it with, so it makes communication
:37:40. > :37:43.easier from that point of view. But having people come in with a lot of
:37:43. > :37:46.life experience, giving us a different view on the office was
:37:46. > :37:51.really refreshing. That's the point. There was a lot of focus on
:37:51. > :37:54.tidying up, but lots of our viewers would agree there is at an enormous
:37:54. > :37:58.amount of experience and wisdom there when you reach retirement age.
:37:58. > :38:04.Even though you are still involved in business, Sheila, was that the
:38:04. > :38:13.feeling amongst the mums there? His team are so young, the office is so
:38:13. > :38:17.vibrant and it's great fun, a wonderful atmosphere. But the
:38:17. > :38:21.serious business, obviously they are doing it daily and so used to it.
:38:21. > :38:28.But for us coming in and looking at them, it was just... We were
:38:28. > :38:34.shell-shocked. So how different is John at work to what you see at
:38:34. > :38:43.home? Totally different. Did your estimation go up? Huge esteem, I've
:38:43. > :38:49.had a quiet word with him. You simply don't know what they do.
:38:49. > :38:56.These people invade your life, you have to put up with them, you have
:38:56. > :39:01.to learn to love them. And then I had an opportunity, I really have
:39:01. > :39:04.loved every minute of it. The opportunity to go and see what he
:39:04. > :39:10.does. I've never really spoken to you about your work. I've never
:39:11. > :39:14.really wanted you to. There's not just a quiet understanding. I love
:39:14. > :39:18.the way you referred to your staff is broken biscuits, so we've got you
:39:18. > :39:28.a little treaty, a barrel of broken biscuits. Thanks for coming in.
:39:28. > :39:32.Earlier, we told you that our mums are in the audience. We'd like you
:39:32. > :39:38.to try and guess who is Matt's mum and who is my mum. Which one do you
:39:38. > :39:52.think is Matthew's mother? Can I go up and go over? She's a sheep
:39:52. > :39:57.farmer. She keeps miniature donkeys. She breathes them. She must
:39:57. > :40:05.farmer. She keeps miniature donkeys. wide hips!
:40:05. > :40:18.Put Sandi out of her misery. Janice, step forward and put Sandi
:40:18. > :40:28.out of her misery. Janice, we had lots of complaints
:40:28. > :40:35.about your clothes and your elbow patches. Lots of complaints? What do
:40:35. > :40:41.you think of his outfit this evening? I think it's OK. I don't
:40:41. > :40:48.know whether lilac is my favourite colour. Even my mum is complaining
:40:48. > :41:01.now! Do you want a quick guess at Alex's mum? I think I have a notion.
:41:01. > :41:15.We are quite similar. Is it Barbara? It's not Barbara. It's you, Mary.
:41:15. > :41:22.Mary, you've been in a few times, what would you say Alex is different
:41:22. > :41:27.at work than she is at home? No, she's exactly the same but a lot
:41:27. > :41:32.funnier. Please don't tell me she spends as long at home getting ready
:41:32. > :41:41.she does here. Thanks to everyone for coming in.
:41:41. > :41:52.I'm quite nervous with my mother here. I don't know why. You are
:41:52. > :42:00.doing really well. Do you want her to sit with you, darling? Last week,
:42:00. > :42:04.Waltham Forest Council in London was the first to prosecute two men for
:42:04. > :42:10.spitting in public. Manners, be they good or bad, is subject close to
:42:10. > :42:14.Sandi's heart. She has written a book about it. We went out on the
:42:14. > :42:18.streets of Birmingham to see what he could get away with. I'm in a cafe,
:42:18. > :42:24.I'm going to get some lunch. Robbery just soup and a copy. Soup and a
:42:24. > :42:29.copy, please. I love soup. Hang on a minute. There are few things quite
:42:29. > :42:32.so irritating is bad manners. But if we feel so strongly about it, then
:42:32. > :42:39.why do so many others just suffer in silence? I know, it's mad, isn't it?
:42:39. > :42:46.Do you show your displeasure? No, typical British. I just talked. Are
:42:46. > :42:53.we really such a pushover? I couldn't just walk to the front of
:42:53. > :42:57.this queue, could I? Can I get these? Not a word! If you are
:42:57. > :43:05.this queue, could I? Can I get British you should know how to
:43:05. > :43:12.queue. That was too easy. Litter is the biggest one, people just
:43:12. > :43:17.dropping litter. I don't understand why, whether it is just being born
:43:17. > :43:24.idle whether they just don't care about the environment or don't care
:43:24. > :43:32.about other people. Attempt two. Still nothing! Nobody opens the door
:43:32. > :43:39.for ladies. You have got your pram and trying to get through a door. A
:43:39. > :43:43.lot of people ignore you. And when you are in the middle of prayers and
:43:43. > :43:46.a mobile phone goes off, that is the height of bad manners. That is
:43:46. > :43:49.a mobile phone goes off, that is the probably me, to be honest. This
:43:50. > :44:01.short queue should be no problem. Hold on. No, I was standing there
:44:01. > :44:07.and you walked in front of me. Sorry, OK. Do you always challenge
:44:07. > :44:17.people who pushed in? Most of the time. What reaction do you get?
:44:17. > :44:23.Usually apologise. Well done for confronting the queue jumping. I'd
:44:24. > :44:28.get angry but wouldn't say anything. The boat has closed so please do not
:44:28. > :44:33.text because you will still be charged. You've written the whole
:44:33. > :44:44.book about this. It's very sad that it's come to this. I don't think the
:44:44. > :44:51.world has gone to hell in a handcart. I think manners change.
:44:51. > :44:53.When you are child you did not eat things with your fingers and now
:44:53. > :44:57.lots of things are eaten with fingers. I thought it was good to
:44:57. > :45:03.have a look at why we do things. Some of the earliest writing of all
:45:03. > :45:08.time is about manners, the Egyptians wrote about table manners. They
:45:08. > :45:11.wonderful eight-year-old friend of mine called Mary, I told her to take
:45:11. > :45:19.her elbows off the table and she said, why? I thought, I had better
:45:19. > :45:23.find out. It is interesting, things have not changed very much. The
:45:23. > :45:27.thing about people spitting in the street, mostly we don't like other
:45:27. > :45:31.people's moistness, that is the street, mostly we don't like other
:45:32. > :45:37.truth of it. I am not going to go through the list, it is quite long.
:45:37. > :45:45.For example, if I was to serve soup and I had bought a brand-new
:45:45. > :45:49.lavatory brush, you still would not want me to stir the soup with the
:45:49. > :45:57.lavatory brush. Because you don't want to think about the chain of
:45:57. > :46:04.motion. It is sort of a history of manners. It is beautifully
:46:04. > :46:08.structured as well. Matt was saying that it is brilliant because you can
:46:08. > :46:13.check what situation you are going to be in, then you can see how you
:46:13. > :46:18.should behave. There is a big chapter about Twitter and social
:46:18. > :46:21.media and because they are quite new, people don't know where the
:46:21. > :46:27.line is as far as manners are concerned. It is kind of the wild
:46:27. > :46:36.West of manners and there have been some appalling bad manners. I am a
:46:36. > :46:41.geek about computers but I think the easiest way to get rid of trolling
:46:41. > :46:45.is to stop people being able to comment anonymously. You can say
:46:45. > :46:51.what you like but say it as yourself. Don't hide behind some
:46:51. > :46:54.name that is not your own. Be brave, stand up and say, I think we should
:46:55. > :47:00.do this terrible thing, then we all know who said it. I think that is
:47:00. > :47:04.coming, think it will change, we should not just be the ones to say
:47:04. > :47:09.it is terrible. You are about to go on tour, My Valentine, you talk
:47:09. > :47:16.about manners and all sorts of things. Starting in Chichester. What
:47:16. > :47:19.is the flavour of the show? It is a two-hour show and my ambition is
:47:19. > :47:25.that the audience feels better when they leave them when they arrive. We
:47:25. > :47:34.laugh a lot, there is music. Both Emma and I are in our anecdotage, we
:47:34. > :47:40.tell anecdotes. I spend a lot of time on the radio, it is a chance to
:47:40. > :47:45.get out and do the live thing. It is where Emma and I started. It is a
:47:45. > :47:53.nice thing to flex that muscle again. We found this lovely picture
:47:53. > :48:05.of you both. Do you remember it? Have we got it? Oh, my word. Woman's
:48:05. > :48:17.hour. My collar up does not look good. You or your collar up a lot
:48:17. > :48:27.then! I look like Himmler! I thought that at the time! We did the first
:48:27. > :48:32.and probably only all-female review. And you were reviewed for it, and we
:48:32. > :48:37.have that as well. It said that both of you set out to prove that women
:48:37. > :48:44.cannot only be funny but also write funny material. We are glad we
:48:44. > :48:51.cleared that up! Sandi Toksvig was a little too much mocked Alan Whicker
:48:51. > :48:59.all the way through. What an extraordinary comment! Was at the
:48:59. > :49:04.moustache I wore? It obviously hasn't scarred you coming you don't
:49:04. > :49:13.remember it. I don't, you should never read your reviews, good or
:49:13. > :49:16.bad. We were the only revue to make money. I was bowled the second time
:49:16. > :49:37.we did it. -- I was my flatmates said, you looked just
:49:37. > :49:45.like Nefertiti with no hair. At which point they decided to pin me
:49:45. > :49:55.down and shave my head. I spent the first night! BaldSandi, your tour
:49:55. > :50:05.starts on the 5th of October in Chichester.
:50:05. > :50:14.One tree's leaves have been turning brown for a very different reason.
:50:14. > :50:19.The horse chestnut tree. Its fruit, conkers, have delighted children for
:50:19. > :50:24.generation. The first recorded conquer game was played on the Isle
:50:24. > :50:28.of Wight in 1848. These magnificent giants are as iconic as the game
:50:28. > :50:31.they created. Now it seems the horse chestnut is falling out of favour
:50:32. > :50:39.and that is because it is losing its looks. Popular in Victorian times,
:50:39. > :50:44.the horse chestnut's white or red blooms, also known as candles, were
:50:44. > :50:49.a regular feature of parks, gardens and newly built residential avenues.
:50:49. > :50:55.It was a Victorian pastime to promenading down horse chestnut
:50:55. > :51:02.walks and admire their beauty. Look around any parks today and you will
:51:02. > :51:06.find Brown, unsightly leaves. Horse chestnuts are under attack and the
:51:06. > :51:10.majority of the 2 million trees in the UK are infested. If you are
:51:11. > :51:16.wondering what makes the horse chestnuts turn ugly, it is this. A
:51:16. > :51:22.tiny caterpillar from an invasive moth called the horse chestnut leaf
:51:22. > :51:26.miner. It arrived on British shores in 2002 and has been spreading
:51:26. > :51:32.throughout the UK at about 25 miles a year ever since. This doctor is an
:51:32. > :51:38.expert on the leaf miner and its cycle. The adults emerge, they lay
:51:38. > :51:44.their eggs on the leaf and produce tiny caterpillars which burrow into
:51:44. > :51:49.the leaf. They eat all the green tissue from the leaf and produce
:51:49. > :51:53.these leaf minds. There are about 30 or 40 different caterpillars just on
:51:53. > :51:58.this one leaf. How much damage does it cause the tree? Because the
:51:58. > :52:01.caterpillars are eating all the green material, which is how the
:52:01. > :52:08.caterpillars are eating all the plant photosynthesise is, it means
:52:08. > :52:11.it can't photosynthesise as much. It means the conkers are smaller, only
:52:11. > :52:16.half the size they would be. It seems like it weakens the trees and
:52:16. > :52:22.makes them more susceptible to other diseases. Despite their ubiquity,
:52:22. > :52:28.the leaf miner's progress through the leaves has never been filmed
:52:28. > :52:33.before. The One Show has set up a time-lapse camera to capture the
:52:33. > :52:37.microscopic invader in action. We have placed a young horse chestnut
:52:37. > :52:40.tree infested with a moth in an isolated room. Our cameras are time
:52:40. > :52:45.tree infested with a moth in an to activate every ten minutes and
:52:45. > :52:49.they reveal the leaf miner's every move. Over the course of a month,
:52:49. > :52:58.the small holes where the eggs have been laid develop into distinctive
:52:58. > :53:05.bubble-like lines. The bubble gets bigger as it up you paid
:53:05. > :53:13.aside from brown leaves, what does it mean for the tree's future?
:53:13. > :53:16.Nobody is replanting horse chestnut trees because they look so scrappy.
:53:16. > :53:20.The nursery sales of horse chestnut trees because they look so scrappy.
:53:20. > :53:25.saplings has reduced by 97% in the last decade. It is a tree that is
:53:25. > :53:31.disappearing fast. The prognosis is bleak. Horse chestnuts could be at
:53:31. > :53:35.risk from vanishing altogether but there is a potential saviour. A
:53:35. > :53:36.native hero defending British territory against attack. The blue
:53:36. > :53:48.tipped. -- blue tipped. We remember how they passed on the
:53:48. > :53:56.rewarding feeding baby to their young. A new bluetit eating habits
:53:56. > :54:04.might save the horse chestnut. I am hoping to spot one in action. There
:54:04. > :54:08.we go, bluetits. Of course, they are voracious eaters of caterpillars.
:54:08. > :54:12.There are tens of thousands of caterpillars, if not more, on this
:54:12. > :54:17.single tree. If you look at the leaf close-up you can see where the
:54:17. > :54:22.bluetits have got their beaks in and peeled off the tops of the leaf
:54:23. > :54:27.minds. If this feeding behaviour were passed on to future
:54:27. > :54:38.generations, bluetits could yet be viable pest control and our beloved
:54:38. > :54:41.conker game could be saved yet. The bluetits are the heroes of the
:54:41. > :54:48.leaves and we hear that your father is a fan of conkers. He was
:54:48. > :54:55.constantly lamenting the death of these games and the things he did
:54:55. > :55:04.when they were young. He said, we used to use these and now we are on
:55:04. > :55:10.Twitter! Matt has the people to give him a few good tips. Nobody knows
:55:10. > :55:14.more about conkers than this gentleman, the current world
:55:14. > :55:22.conquered champion -- world conker champion. And former ladies
:55:22. > :55:29.champion, Jayne Coddington, welcome to you both. Were you both playing
:55:29. > :55:37.conkers in the schoolyard? And you have played every year since? No.
:55:37. > :55:38.When did you find the love again? 2008, when I won the world
:55:38. > :55:45.Championships. At your first 2008, when I won the world
:55:45. > :55:49.attempt, how is it possible? It is quite clever, really! It is about
:55:49. > :56:01.how you hit them. And selecting the conquer itself? -- the conker
:56:01. > :56:05.itself? You just get a string. The referee hands you a sack, you draw a
:56:05. > :56:13.conker, if you are happy with it, you play with it. This one is the
:56:13. > :56:17.2005 winning conker, it has just got a slight crack. How many
:56:17. > :56:22.competitions do you have to go through? You get a new one each
:56:22. > :56:29.round but that was the winning one in the final. This is all news to
:56:29. > :56:37.me, it is compensated. Give us a World Championships Mac. That is a
:56:37. > :56:45.stinker, it got me on the knuckle! -- a World Championship smack. That
:56:45. > :56:55.is a stinger. This year, men and women compete together? For the
:56:55. > :57:09.first time since 1965. O! You need to get you are in! -- your ie in.
:57:09. > :57:14.That is it, we have lost Matt to the world of conkers. We asked you if
:57:14. > :57:19.you think you should -- we should world of conkers. We asked you if
:57:19. > :57:21.ban beauty pageants for children. This is not scientific in any shape
:57:21. > :57:54.or form. Do you have the results? She was adamant and she loves
:57:54. > :57:59.dancing. This has happened in all of the country in lots of different
:57:59. > :58:03.sports and hobbies. Nick Warren says having worked with primary school
:58:03. > :58:07.children, I can say that with personal conviction that beauty
:58:07. > :58:10.school pageants and the light cause confusion and problems for these
:58:10. > :58:16.children growing up, they are not bonsai adults. This one says, my
:58:17. > :58:23.four-year-old is currently crawling about the floor pretending to be a
:58:23. > :58:25.talking cat who has a favourite food of fish from the pond. This is what
:58:25. > :58:28.talking cat who has a favourite food children should be doing, not being
:58:28. > :58:34.plastered in make-up amp or in skimpy outfits. It will be
:58:34. > :58:41.interesting to see what we can do and if we follow suit. Thank you to
:58:41. > :58:54.all of The One Show mums for coming in! They all look so nice. I just
:58:54. > :59:10.said thanks to my mum for journeying from Wales. You are not from Wales!