:00:19. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to your Monday The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt
:00:27. > :00:32.Baker. Tonight's guests do not strike you as the kind of people who
:00:33. > :00:36.go out of their way to visit the Shire Horse Museum and the Living
:00:37. > :00:42.Museum of the North. But according to them and they almost certainly
:00:43. > :00:47.are. Please welcome Steve Punt and Hugh Dennis. Great to see you. What
:00:48. > :00:53.is it with this must see list of museums? When you tour you have a
:00:54. > :00:58.lot of free time and we pick out museums and go to them during the
:00:59. > :01:10.day. They are not the weirdest. What is the weirdest? Barometer world.
:01:11. > :01:22.Where is it? I cannot remember where it is. It is in Devon. Also the lawn
:01:23. > :01:29.mower Museum. That is good. And the pencil Museum. We will continue this
:01:30. > :01:37.conversation as we go through the show. You can suggest one. But now
:01:38. > :01:41.as the search of the scene of Friday night's helicopter crash continues,
:01:42. > :01:47.messages of support from around the world have poured in. Earlier today
:01:48. > :01:54.Glasgow City Council opened its book of condolences.
:01:55. > :01:59.For most Glaswegians the events of Friday night have not yet sunk in.
:02:00. > :02:03.At the Glasgow city Chambers they have opened a book of condolence and
:02:04. > :02:09.it is providing people with a focal point and a way of showing their
:02:10. > :02:15.respect. Glasgow is Scotland's greatest city, but it is still a
:02:16. > :02:19.village. I, like many others, have been deeply affected by what has
:02:20. > :02:24.happened. So many people have already signed the book. Everybody
:02:25. > :02:30.cares for everybody else and that was shown by the behaviour of people
:02:31. > :02:37.on Friday night. I was struck in the media coverage by how people felt.
:02:38. > :02:44.It is to show we are all part of this, really. It has been upsetting
:02:45. > :02:48.since I heard the news. I have just come from where people are standing
:02:49. > :02:56.paying their respects with great sadness, but a healthy heart. My
:02:57. > :03:01.Scottish roots are very deep. I felt it was important to let the Scottish
:03:02. > :03:07.people know that people from all over the world are mourning this
:03:08. > :03:12.loss as well. Our sympathies go out to not just those directly affected,
:03:13. > :03:17.but to all the people of Glasgow and Scotland. Watching television in
:03:18. > :03:21.recent days you feel, God help these people who have lost relatives and
:03:22. > :03:29.friends. I am thinking of those who have lost relatives and friends. In
:03:30. > :03:36.this city you see the true spirit of the people. I was out on Friday
:03:37. > :03:44.night and it can touch anybody. It is so sad. We want to let everybody
:03:45. > :03:47.know we are thinking of them. Nothing prepares you for a
:03:48. > :03:53.catastrophe like this. Not in a million years do you think anything
:03:54. > :04:00.like this could happen. I feel like I should do something. When you go
:04:01. > :04:07.down you feel the sadness. A police officer was crying. It is one of
:04:08. > :04:14.these events where you will remember where you were. In years from now
:04:15. > :04:21.when that book is read, it is what people felt at the time. For some of
:04:22. > :04:26.us to be able to express what so many want to express, which is
:04:27. > :04:41.condolence, for those who were buried, it is pride. Our thoughts
:04:42. > :04:48.are with all of those. Lucy joins us now. Do we have any more details as
:04:49. > :04:53.to what the helicopter was doing? We know the helicopter and the support
:04:54. > :04:58.crew were scrambled to attend a call that came in around 8:20pm off
:04:59. > :05:04.trespassers on the railway line. They were only about two miles away
:05:05. > :05:09.from their base and they were attending this routine operation
:05:10. > :05:14.which tragically turned out to be anything but routine.
:05:15. > :05:18.Are we any clearer about the calls? Not really, we have to be careful
:05:19. > :05:23.not to speculate. But the Air Accidents Investigation Branch world
:05:24. > :05:27.peace through the wreckage and sift through all the eyewitness reports
:05:28. > :05:33.to try and work out what has happened. They have confirmed the
:05:34. > :05:37.helicopter did not have a flight data recorder, however the
:05:38. > :05:42.helicopter has been described as very sophisticated by a number of
:05:43. > :05:47.experts, so it is full of modern electronic systems which may contain
:05:48. > :05:51.data which they will hopefully be able to piece together. It was a
:05:52. > :05:57.twin engine helicopter, so it could have operated on one engine. We also
:05:58. > :06:04.know there was no Mayday signal received. That is what we know at
:06:05. > :06:09.the moment. This is a very popular model of helicopter. There are about
:06:10. > :06:14.1000 in service around the world with ambulance and police services
:06:15. > :06:20.around the world. It is very popular and sophisticated. But this
:06:21. > :06:26.helicopter has been tested before and has crashed before now? There
:06:27. > :06:32.were reports in France in July of a crack in the same model and after
:06:33. > :06:37.that this helicopter underwent intensive investigation, but it was
:06:38. > :06:41.declared safe for routine operations. There was a crash about
:06:42. > :06:46.six years ago in Essex where the pilot and his wife escaped. The
:06:47. > :06:52.model before that crashed about a decade ago. It was intensely
:06:53. > :06:57.investigated and declared fit. And this helicopter has been taken
:06:58. > :07:01.to find borough. Security at home is something most
:07:02. > :07:07.people take very seriously. When you leave the house you lock up, put the
:07:08. > :07:12.light on and set the alarm. But would you pay so much attention to
:07:13. > :07:17.security if you were staying in and expecting visitors. If you are
:07:18. > :07:22.selling your house, maybe you should. This ?400,000 home in
:07:23. > :07:26.Darlington had been on sale for three months. When the estate agent
:07:27. > :07:32.rang to say there were cash buyers interested, the owner Janet Bland
:07:33. > :07:37.was very excited. They seemed really keen on the house and they were
:07:38. > :07:42.making all the right noises, saying how nice they thought the house
:07:43. > :07:47.was. They were here for the day. I felt quite comfortable with them.
:07:48. > :07:52.But what Janet did not realise is this couple had no intention of
:07:53. > :07:56.buying the house. They called themselves Mr and Mrs Bent and they
:07:57. > :08:01.were not there to buy, they were there to steal. She steered me
:08:02. > :08:08.towards the lounge to discuss the fire and she took me away and he
:08:09. > :08:13.could then go and wander around the house on his own without me knowing.
:08:14. > :08:18.Somebody is looking at your house and you let them, don't you? You
:08:19. > :08:24.think you are going to get a sale, so you want them to look around. And
:08:25. > :08:28.in Janet's house look around they did and they hit the jackpot getting
:08:29. > :08:36.away with precious jewellery worth ?5,000. My diamond ring and a
:08:37. > :08:40.necklace had been taken. It was things my late husband had bought
:08:41. > :08:46.for me which I was keeping for my daughter. It was of sentimental
:08:47. > :08:52.value and could not be replaced. It seems Janet's house was not the only
:08:53. > :08:56.one being targeted. There were other victims with very similar stories
:08:57. > :09:01.about a couple of suspicious house-buyers. My initial thought was
:09:02. > :09:07.it was the same people who had done this. We needed to find out who they
:09:08. > :09:12.were. The other victims were able to help even though the couple gave
:09:13. > :09:18.false names. One thing was consistent, the description of their
:09:19. > :09:23.van. It was a crucial league for the police who started looking back at
:09:24. > :09:27.CCTV. There are lots of cameras around and we were able to identify
:09:28. > :09:33.the registration number of the vehicle. The van had been registered
:09:34. > :09:41.in their real names. The police finally knew who they were. Karen
:09:42. > :09:44.Coombs and James Patterson. Now the couple had been identified
:09:45. > :09:51.detectives needed to find them and the next breakthrough, they used the
:09:52. > :09:54.same mobile telephone to call the estate agents. The use of the
:09:55. > :10:00.telephone was vital because we have the Trail of the call data from the
:10:01. > :10:06.mobile phone providers showing the calls to a particular estate agent.
:10:07. > :10:13.Checking the telephone led police to this CCTV showing James Patterson
:10:14. > :10:17.topping up the mobile in a shop in Darlington. The evidence was
:10:18. > :10:20.mounting and the police were closing in. The crooks were finally caught
:10:21. > :10:27.when they were spotted by traffic officers. When police searched the
:10:28. > :10:32.van they found this, the couple's that naff, and on it they found the
:10:33. > :10:39.addresses of the homes that had been burgled and the true scale of their
:10:40. > :10:44.crimes was uncovered. And they had been on some road trip. They had
:10:45. > :10:50.travelled the length and breadth of England, targeting 38 homes and
:10:51. > :10:56.stealing ?20,000 worth of jewellery. They were eventually found guilty of
:10:57. > :11:02.conspiracy to commit burglary. It was a massive breach of trust. It
:11:03. > :11:08.was a callous way to click their way into people's houses. They still
:11:09. > :11:12.items of sentimental value that were not replaceable. The good news is
:11:13. > :11:17.they now have somewhere to call home, prison. Between them they were
:11:18. > :11:26.sentenced to six years and eight months for their crimes.
:11:27. > :11:32.So brazen. Unbelievable. I cannot believe they called themselves Mr
:11:33. > :11:39.and Mrs Bent. You said you were burgled 13 times. Looe I lived in a
:11:40. > :11:46.vicarage, my dad was a vicar, and they attract burglars. It was ten
:11:47. > :11:53.times in 13 years or 13 times in ten years, but we had nothing worth
:11:54. > :11:57.stealing. The last time we were burgled, when I was 12, the day
:11:58. > :12:08.before I got a new school uniform and all they stole was about six
:12:09. > :12:15.pairs of my pants. They went through the entire house. What was missing?
:12:16. > :12:23.My pants. Weren't a nice? They were white. They are important for PE. It
:12:24. > :12:29.is time to look back at the financial news of the 3rd of
:12:30. > :12:35.October, 1990, as presented by you in your very first TV outing
:12:36. > :12:44.together. What happened in the market today? I got some dodgy
:12:45. > :12:50.assets for ?1 99. Wolseley and British Gas is a late kick-off.
:12:51. > :12:57.Shares slipped back when supply figures were released. It was
:12:58. > :13:11.because of the menu in the canteen. Dealers were sent into panic
:13:12. > :13:16.selling. Nothing has really changed. I am doing an impression of Eric
:13:17. > :13:25.idle and he is doing an impression of Ronnie Barker. That was from
:13:26. > :13:32.1990, but today's financial news is that people are spending ?900,000
:13:33. > :13:40.online shopping up to Christmas. Are you buying each other stuff? I am
:13:41. > :13:47.not sure we have bought each other anything. I have bought is six pairs
:13:48. > :13:56.of pants. That happened when I was 12. Not even a coffee at the
:13:57. > :14:02.barometer museum? I bought him a bottle of champagne once. We do not
:14:03. > :14:09.do Christmas. We are blokes. You are back on tour and it is Ploughing On
:14:10. > :14:18.Regardless. What are you Ploughing On Regardless of? Fashion, style,
:14:19. > :14:26.age, love. Is this a standard tour, and idea sketches? Byes, but we have
:14:27. > :14:35.not finished writing it yet. You looked a bit vague. I hope we have a
:14:36. > :14:43.finished show. We do not start until January. You can only really develop
:14:44. > :14:49.comedy in front of an audience. You cannot do a show sitting down. You
:14:50. > :14:56.do not know what works. You have to go in freestyle for the first show?
:14:57. > :15:05.And hopefully you get rid of some bits and it tightens. You are not
:15:06. > :15:16.doing a DVD. Are you nuts? Who told you that? If you do, you can come
:15:17. > :15:23.back. Maybe we should. You have worked together for so long and you
:15:24. > :15:33.can just go with the flow, but did it always used to be like that? We
:15:34. > :15:37.had a reputation for not changing our material enough. David Baddiel
:15:38. > :15:48.once had a go at us. To be fair, he was right. When we started, we
:15:49. > :15:51.started in clubs. We used to do the comedy clubs. If you did the
:15:52. > :15:59.midnight show you did not get on until two o'clock in the morning. We
:16:00. > :16:09.tried to develop a heckle proof show which left no gaps at all. I had a
:16:10. > :16:12.big bag of hats. Steve would do a story and I played all the
:16:13. > :16:22.characters and I had to dive in and do this. It was very structured. We
:16:23. > :16:27.used to add little bits now and then. Since then we have learnt that
:16:28. > :16:32.actually, you can write stuff about almost anything. When the news
:16:33. > :16:36.throws stuff at you for you find yourself writing things a couple of
:16:37. > :16:48.days before you would have thought, we cannot do that, but you can't
:16:49. > :16:53.talk about almost anything. Lester wants to keep him but others
:16:54. > :17:04.say the City of York should Richard III. He is looking good! While at
:17:05. > :17:10.legal wrangle carries on, Cerys Matthews uncovers the tragic story
:17:11. > :17:17.behind the painting of his nephews. Innocent, angelic and afraid. When
:17:18. > :17:21.melee created the painting, he was telling a tragic story of two young
:17:22. > :17:28.royals and the enigmatic figure, Richard III. When King Edward IV
:17:29. > :17:33.died in 1483 he left behind two young sons. The errors to the throne
:17:34. > :17:38.were placed under the protection of their uncle, Richard, and brought to
:17:39. > :17:42.the tower of London. Soon after they were declared illegitimate, Richard
:17:43. > :17:44.became king and the boys disappeared. Rumours spread that
:17:45. > :17:51.they had been murdered Richard's orders. Art historian Laura
:17:52. > :17:59.McCulloch has studied the painting which shows boys waiting in fear for
:18:00. > :18:02.their assassin to arrive. Millais deliberately chooses the most magic
:18:03. > :18:06.moment, when we know the boys are going to be murdered but they do
:18:07. > :18:11.not. They are just waiting, knowing something bad is about to happen.
:18:12. > :18:13.Now we are not sure if they were killed. The Victorians certainly
:18:14. > :18:25.believed that their villainous uncle had had their murdered. I love the
:18:26. > :18:34.fact that their hands are clasp together. Almost 200 years after the
:18:35. > :18:38.Princes' disappearance, work men made a discovery of the skeletons of
:18:39. > :18:41.two children. We do not know for certain if the remains are the two
:18:42. > :18:45.princes but it was widely believed they were at Millais used the
:18:46. > :18:53.details of the discovery in his painting. He shows them a black
:18:54. > :19:01.velvet. They believed when the bones were dug up the velvet was clinging
:19:02. > :19:07.to it. Who is this shadowy figure coming down the staircase? We think
:19:08. > :19:12.it is one of Richard's men. That is what the Victorians believed. He is
:19:13. > :19:15.faceless. That is part of the psychological drama. It is
:19:16. > :19:20.incredible that one painting can tell this story. Are they a true
:19:21. > :19:25.likeness to the Princes? Millais would not have known what they look
:19:26. > :19:30.like. He was painting 400 years afterwards. Like many artists,
:19:31. > :19:35.Millais used models. Who were these two boys who posed as the Princes?
:19:36. > :19:38.Peter Davies has carried out lots of research and he believes they were
:19:39. > :19:45.his great uncle Eddie and his grandad, Percy. He wants to compare
:19:46. > :19:51.photographs of his relatives with the original painting at Royal
:19:52. > :19:59.Holloway University of London. You have not seen the original before?
:20:00. > :20:07.Element I have not seen it ever. -- I have not seen it ever. , that is
:20:08. > :20:12.fantastic. It is so much bigger and brighter and more alive than I
:20:13. > :20:21.thought it would be. That is my grandfather, Percy. Do you break it
:20:22. > :20:32.may seem? I do, the facial features are striking. That is a painting of
:20:33. > :20:41.my family. That is Percy on the left. You can really see the nose,
:20:42. > :20:53.can't you? And that is Edward, a cheeky chap. You can see the nose.
:20:54. > :20:57.Millais's son told a story about how my great grandmother took the boys
:20:58. > :21:03.to Millais and he was struck by them, and he immediately started
:21:04. > :21:07.painting them the next day. The story was he could never look at it
:21:08. > :21:13.afterwards without feeling annoyed because he was always reminded of
:21:14. > :21:20.the crunch of sweets under his feet. The boys were constantly eating them
:21:21. > :21:24.during the painting. In contrast to the Royals, Peter's relatives lived
:21:25. > :21:31.long, fulfilling lives, both becoming headmasters. Whatever
:21:32. > :21:34.happened to the last princes, in Millais's painting they remain
:21:35. > :21:43.frozen in time, clinging to each other as the shadowy figure of the
:21:44. > :21:53.assassin approaches. Similar hairdo to mine! Rumours are
:21:54. > :21:56.rife about what happened? We do not know much, which is why it is one of
:21:57. > :22:03.the greatest mysteries in our history. While the young princes
:22:04. > :22:08.were still around, they were a threat so Richard III put them in
:22:09. > :22:14.the Tower. After the summer of 1483, they were not seen again. If
:22:15. > :22:18.you put two comedians in a tower and they disappeared there would be
:22:19. > :22:26.rumours, but when it is princes, rumours abounded. Have the rumours
:22:27. > :22:39.become fact? After Richard III was defeated, Henry Tudor took to the
:22:40. > :22:43.throne. There was lots of rumour and it then became accepted fact.
:22:44. > :22:53.Shakespeare then cements the story. Let's assume he is a nice guy for a
:22:54. > :23:01.moment. What if they east gate? -- escaped. There is no proof. There is
:23:02. > :23:06.a bricklayer theory. There is one that Edward dies quite young but
:23:07. > :23:10.Richard escapes, goes to live with his mother and has to keep his head
:23:11. > :23:16.down so becomes a bricklayer. There was a Richard Plantagenet in Essex
:23:17. > :23:24.who could speak and read Latin, which is intriguing, so there might
:23:25. > :23:31.be something in it. Is that not all that he had the same name and date
:23:32. > :23:36.with his mother? I guess it was a double bluff. There is also a doctor
:23:37. > :23:44.who claimed that both were smuggled out and that Richard became a
:23:45. > :23:53.doctor. -- there are also a story which claims that. Also, there is
:23:54. > :23:57.the impersonator story. One guy claimed to be a few different
:23:58. > :24:02.people, so he probably had form. Another guy called Perkin wore back
:24:03. > :24:04.could have been. The boy's aren't said it was him but Henry VII hanged
:24:05. > :24:22.him. -- the boy's aren't. There is a Scottish loch with
:24:23. > :24:26.something stored beneath its -- something strange beneath its
:24:27. > :24:30.surface. Loch Creran on the West coast of Scotland hides a beautiful
:24:31. > :24:36.secret. Beneath these chilly waters lies the spectacular and colourful
:24:37. > :24:42.reef. It is one of the most important habitats in Europe. The
:24:43. > :24:46.living reef below these waters is not made up of coral, but
:24:47. > :25:01.circulates, which are a type of Chiba. -- chewed worm. They are
:25:02. > :25:05.widely distributed. There are some localised spots where damage has
:25:06. > :25:14.been caused by fishing. Now it is a special area of conservation. So the
:25:15. > :25:17.future is right? -- right? Yes. The reefs can only survive in certain
:25:18. > :25:23.areas and they have to have the right environmental conditions.
:25:24. > :25:27.Fresh water pours in from the mountains, but just behind me at the
:25:28. > :25:37.entrance, it is sea water. The sea water rushing backwards and forwards
:25:38. > :25:41.brings plenty of plankton. The abundance of food makes this spot
:25:42. > :25:50.the best place to get in, dive down and see them. Cerpulids are not
:25:51. > :25:55.plans so they do not need like to survive but the food they eat does.
:25:56. > :26:01.I am only heading down ten metres. These worms need a solid base and
:26:02. > :26:15.most of the sea bed is covered in a muddy bottom. That is not what they
:26:16. > :26:20.need. If you go a few metres you have got this always is. And then
:26:21. > :26:26.they disappear. This is a reaction to movements in the water around
:26:27. > :26:40.them. This quick reaction is their defence from predators. Each of
:26:41. > :26:43.these has a little trapdoor. They are so successful they do not have
:26:44. > :26:50.any predators in the lock, that is why they are thriving. If I wait
:26:51. > :27:04.patiently, hopefully they will come out. For the worm, this is home. But
:27:05. > :27:09.whilst inside they cannot eat so I am hoping the hunger will entice
:27:10. > :27:15.them to appear. Here they come. That is beautiful. The colours are
:27:16. > :27:18.exquisite. They may look like flowers bursting from their buds but
:27:19. > :27:26.actually, they are animals coming out to feed. It is thought that each
:27:27. > :27:31.individual worm can detect when its neighbour has come back out. Speeded
:27:32. > :27:39.up, it is easy to see them appearing in a chain reaction. This one has
:27:40. > :27:44.really caught my eye. It is a lot higher than its neighbours. They are
:27:45. > :27:48.filter feeders, they will feed on anything floating past. They are in
:27:49. > :27:54.competition with each other so there is a real incentive to grow taller
:27:55. > :27:56.and higher than the rest. Not only are these creatures stunningly
:27:57. > :28:10.beautiful, but these reefs are crucial to the lock's -- to the
:28:11. > :28:16.loch's biodiversity. They provide a unique habitat in a featureless
:28:17. > :28:24.loch. These worms only grow at about three centimetres a year. It will
:28:25. > :28:30.take them time to regain ground they have lost due to man's inadvertent
:28:31. > :28:34.activities. I hope now that the area is protected these beautiful
:28:35. > :28:45.creatures and the habitat they produce has at least got a chance.
:28:46. > :28:54.Gorgeous, isn't it? Barometer World have been in contact. It is
:28:55. > :29:04.north-west of Okehampton. Listen to this, this is wonderful. We went to
:29:05. > :29:11.Chainsaw World. Then we went to Simon World -- Salmon World, where
:29:12. > :29:20.we did not take photos. Is there a new series of Outnumbered? Its start
:29:21. > :29:39.in January. -- it starts in January. You have got a busy month, get
:29:40. > :29:41.writing! No, we have already filmed it. 10th January. -- 10th January.