:00:15. > :00:21.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.
:00:22. > :00:32.You can't believe this. At 5p, our studio flooded, burst pipe. There we
:00:33. > :00:35.are, ankle deep in water. We served at the big plasma screen, moved
:00:36. > :00:41.everything over here. This is the own version of the BBC Oval Office
:00:42. > :00:48.but as apps for tonight 's guest. We will soon be joined by a woman who
:00:49. > :00:52.has held a few impressive titles. Secretary of State. US Senator.
:00:53. > :00:56.First Lady of the United States but the most excited about its grand
:00:57. > :01:04.mother-to-be. Yes, Hillary Clinton is on the show very shortly.
:01:05. > :01:09.Hopefully. Literally, as we went on air, Hillary walked through the
:01:10. > :01:15.doors. She's gone down to have a bit of powder and she will be back in a
:01:16. > :01:18.second. Our friends from 48th Fighter Wing based at RAF Lakenheath
:01:19. > :01:24.in Suffolk are with us. They are going to be welcoming Hillary soon.
:01:25. > :01:28.We would love you to get involved, too. Hillary has given lots of
:01:29. > :01:33.advice to US presidents and world leaders. But there's one thing she
:01:34. > :01:36.needs your help on because that all-important first grandchild is
:01:37. > :01:40.due later this year. All you grandmothers out there, send as a
:01:41. > :01:46.picture of you and your grandchild along with your names and the one
:01:47. > :01:51.piece of advice you have for Hillary Clinton. One of the many bills Mrs
:01:52. > :01:56.Clinton has been involved with is one she helped pass in 1999, which
:01:57. > :02:00.helps people in foster care to get a better chance in life. In the UK,
:02:01. > :02:03.the law changed recently and now those who've been in care are
:02:04. > :02:07.allowed much more access to information about the reasons why
:02:08. > :02:08.they were put there and that means they can finally fill in the gaps
:02:09. > :02:21.from their past. In and out of clear 18 months old,
:02:22. > :02:26.Karen has always blamed herself, thinking she must've been a bad
:02:27. > :02:33.child. There are years of her life that you simply can't remember.
:02:34. > :02:37.Hello. This is meant to stay for Karen, and is hopefully going to
:02:38. > :02:41.piece together a childhood. She is applied for the papers which cover
:02:42. > :02:48.the first 17 years of her life. I'm very nervous. I bet you are. Much of
:02:49. > :02:54.the information is highly sensitive. In the past, it was often blacked
:02:55. > :02:59.out. Now new rules say local authorities must give much more
:03:00. > :03:05.detail. Karen applied for her records nearly three months ago. And
:03:06. > :03:09.today, 25 years after leaving care, she finally has her file. Do you
:03:10. > :03:17.want to go and have a look at it? Yeah. What do you know about your
:03:18. > :03:20.childhood? It was quite violent and I was put in care a lot. I can
:03:21. > :03:27.remember being in care more times than I was at home. How a cryptic do
:03:28. > :03:37.you feel coping with this level of information coming out you with such
:03:38. > :03:41.depth? I have got support. My eldest daughter. With a family of her own,
:03:42. > :03:45.Karen's file could be the key to unlocking the past for her and also
:03:46. > :03:52.her three children. What are you most hoping to find? And says to why
:03:53. > :03:56.I was put in care. How long I was in care for, who I was living with,
:03:57. > :03:59.times I can't remember. Filling in the blanks. What impression had been
:04:00. > :04:04.formed by yourself over the years? the blanks. What impression had been
:04:05. > :04:08.formed by Everybody must've seen me as a bad child. I didn't see that
:04:09. > :04:34.myself. I thought it was good. Time to find out. Yeah.
:04:35. > :04:43.This is basically one I got took into care, my mother just stood
:04:44. > :04:48.there and said, if you take that, you take the rest of the others as
:04:49. > :04:54.well. I can see she didn't care about me. So there's the first time
:04:55. > :05:03.you have ever seen anything which explains why you've into care? Yeah.
:05:04. > :05:15.Apparently I should be detained with physical care on a long-term basis.
:05:16. > :05:21.I had been assaulted. Family member. Karen's file reveals, as a child,
:05:22. > :05:35.had she stayed at home, she was at serious risk. I never knew that at
:05:36. > :05:42.all. I was two. It is there. The data, everything, it's there. Had it
:05:43. > :05:49.already discovered you went this evil child? I am not evil. My foster
:05:50. > :05:55.parents said it was a pleasure having me. Looking at it now, are
:05:56. > :06:04.you glad you open that envelope? Yeah, I am. The first four pages,
:06:05. > :06:11.I'm not a bad kid. What kind of parents would say, take her, take
:06:12. > :06:14.them all. You stand at the door and save nobody is taking my children
:06:15. > :06:19.because it was me, nobody would be taking my children away from me. I
:06:20. > :06:26.don't give my fault I went into care. I think my mother couldn't be
:06:27. > :06:31.bothered with us. I have left Karen to it. There was a lot to die just
:06:32. > :06:34.and it started this process by thinking how fulfilling and
:06:35. > :06:37.interesting to have 17 years of your life putting the jigsaw pieces back
:06:38. > :06:41.together but you can see what it is done to her. A child who has had to
:06:42. > :06:42.be courageous when she's younger has suddenly had to be very brave again,
:06:43. > :06:52.to take it all in. Tony is with us now, keeping the
:06:53. > :06:58.seat warm for Hillary Clinton. What was it like for you to be there? You
:06:59. > :07:02.got a sense of it in the film. I've been in a lot of interesting
:07:03. > :07:06.situations and I feel that was the most privileged. I was there as she
:07:07. > :07:10.rediscovered her life. She was saying before she opened the
:07:11. > :07:14.envelope, she was a naughty girl, impossible to live with, my family
:07:15. > :07:18.didn't love me. I spoke to Karen about an hour ago and she reiterated
:07:19. > :07:21.exacting what you said in the film. She said, I am not evil, I'm a
:07:22. > :07:27.lovely person, which is a great journey for her. To have carried out
:07:28. > :07:33.for so long. In that envelope, that was only two and a half years of her
:07:34. > :07:37.history. Speaking to her today, it was a good few inches thick bitches
:07:38. > :07:41.only got the years from 14 to 16, so there is a lot missing and she is
:07:42. > :07:46.now chasing local authorities to try to get that information. She was top
:07:47. > :07:50.of her class at one point, she was really popular at school. One of the
:07:51. > :07:53.main thing is, the psychological issues, she passed her mum today in
:07:54. > :07:58.the town centre and for the first time, she had absolutely no guilt
:07:59. > :08:04.about anything which had gone on. So significant after all these years.
:08:05. > :08:09.There's recently been changes to the law. Can you shed some light on that
:08:10. > :08:12.for us? Care leavers have a fundamental right to do what Karen
:08:13. > :08:16.has done and get hold of their records but local authorities have
:08:17. > :08:20.to provide that information within 40 days, but it used to be handed
:08:21. > :08:25.over council worker. Now a social worker has to be involved in
:08:26. > :08:29.process. Has to talk about a person through the process. Also, they
:08:30. > :08:36.should be told about the missing files. Karen has 14 years to catch
:08:37. > :08:40.up on and of the local authority's duty to provide those files. Thank
:08:41. > :08:44.you very much Tony and thank you to Karen. As we have heard, Hillary
:08:45. > :08:48.Clinton is definitely in the building. She is coming up the
:08:49. > :08:53.stairs now and I think she's the first guest on the one show who has
:08:54. > :08:58.had a code name from the Secret Service. While she is being issued
:08:59. > :09:01.her temporary BBC pass, here is the story of a student from Illinois who
:09:02. > :09:08.became one of the most powerful women in the world. She has been
:09:09. > :09:15.called many things, but how does Hillary Clinton describe herself?
:09:16. > :09:18.How about wife, mother, lawyer, woman and children advocate, first
:09:19. > :09:24.Lady of Arkansas, the United States, US Senator, Secretary of
:09:25. > :09:30.State, author, dog owner, pant suit aficionado, glass ceiling cracker?
:09:31. > :09:36.Political titles belong to others now but her sense of humour and her
:09:37. > :09:40.sense of purpose look unshakeable. As a teenager, Hillary Rodham once
:09:41. > :09:44.campaigned to door-to-door for the Republicans. But the civil rights
:09:45. > :09:50.movement and speeches by Martin Luther King sat her down a very
:09:51. > :09:53.different road. When Hillary graduated in 1969, she became the
:09:54. > :09:55.first student to give the commencement speech, normally
:09:56. > :10:00.reserved for local notable public figures. The senator spoke, pretty
:10:01. > :10:05.traditional in its attitudes about what women's roles would be, and
:10:06. > :10:10.almost a warning to us to be good citizens in a modest appropriate
:10:11. > :10:14.role. And you could see her shift her papers and you wondered what was
:10:15. > :10:23.up. She said something like, I am compelled to comment on Senator
:10:24. > :10:27.Brooks's speech, because it everything just wrong about where
:10:28. > :10:34.American is going. The students gave Hillary a standing ovation. It
:10:35. > :10:38.lasted seven minutes. At college, she fell in love with fellow law
:10:39. > :10:42.student Bill Clinton. It was a political partnership that survived
:10:43. > :10:46.state politics and eight turbulent years in the White House. For a
:10:47. > :10:49.while, it looked like she would be back there after a stint as a
:10:50. > :10:53.senator for New York, though her attempted to be the first female
:10:54. > :10:55.president failed, she was beaten ironically for a civil rights
:10:56. > :11:02.champion by the first black president. Following defeat, she
:11:03. > :11:06.pledged her support to Obama and he repaid that by offering her the
:11:07. > :11:10.position of Secretary of State. The equivalent of the Foreign Secretary
:11:11. > :11:15.and her job was to the damage done by the George Bush years and two
:11:16. > :11:21.replace hard power with smart power. He knew the previous eight years was
:11:22. > :11:27.not exactly a golden year of diplomacy and knew she was the best
:11:28. > :11:29.person to restore America's standing. If she runs again, she
:11:30. > :11:34.will have no shortage of supporters on the side of the Atlantic. Their
:11:35. > :11:41.advocacy of education, women's rights, development and effectively
:11:42. > :11:42.diplomacy, are an inspiring example to other foreign ministers and
:11:43. > :11:48.would-be foreign ministers around the world. She looks at world
:11:49. > :11:53.affairs and there are big processes, big issues out there, but she will
:11:54. > :11:57.look for a way in through the people she is negotiating with. She may
:11:58. > :12:01.have left the office of Secretary of State with a 70% populates rerating,
:12:02. > :12:07.but diplomatic style has not been tastes always. There is a feeling in
:12:08. > :12:12.her campaign by her advisers but you always had to project strength. She
:12:13. > :12:16.shouldn't seem overly warm or motherly. Projecting that strength,
:12:17. > :12:19.she was maybe off-putting to some people. And her lack of foresight
:12:20. > :12:27.over the Arab Spring crisis was criticised. I think the illustration
:12:28. > :12:32.was slow and she was slow to realise President Assad was a butcher. After
:12:33. > :12:35.the anti-climax of the Obama presidency, many will question
:12:36. > :12:39.whether having a female president will make a difference. I think it
:12:40. > :12:45.Hillary Clinton run for president and wins, it will break that last
:12:46. > :12:50.glass ceiling and I think it will have a powerful and empowering
:12:51. > :12:53.effect on women all over the world. Hillary has been asked time and time
:12:54. > :12:57.again whether she will run for president and her answer has always
:12:58. > :13:02.been the same. She will dedicate her life to being a grandmother before
:13:03. > :13:06.she makes any decision on whether to fight another election but recently,
:13:07. > :13:12.and quite tellingly, she has added there's been a lot of grandfathers
:13:13. > :13:17.that have done it. We will hold that thought from moment. Let's welcome
:13:18. > :13:21.her to the studio. It is Hillary Clinton.
:13:22. > :13:28.APPLAUSE Welcome to the one show.
:13:29. > :13:32.We know you're on a busy schedule because you are promoting your new
:13:33. > :13:37.book Hard Choices, going all over Europe over the next coming days but
:13:38. > :13:41.it must've been a hard choice for you to go on the tour because your
:13:42. > :13:46.daughter is expecting your first grandchild? I was she doing? She is
:13:47. > :13:51.doing so well, thank you for asking. It is the most exciting thing in my
:13:52. > :13:55.life right now. I am thrilled at the prospect, so I'm anxiously awaiting
:13:56. > :13:58.until autumn when I can meet this new person who will be part of our
:13:59. > :14:01.family. Of course, Bill will be excited as well.
:14:02. > :14:02.new person who will be part of our family. Of course, Bill will What do
:14:03. > :14:10.you think will be his best grandfatherly skill? Let me think.
:14:11. > :14:15.He is very devoted to children. I mean, we used to laugh when he was
:14:16. > :14:21.running for office in Arkansas, that if children and mosque eaters could
:14:22. > :14:27.vote, he would win 100%. Both are very attracted to him -- mosquitoes.
:14:28. > :14:33.He's looking forward to working in any way he can to give this new
:14:34. > :14:36.child a great start in life and we were co-parents from the beginning
:14:37. > :14:41.with our daughter. We were very clear that one of us would be home
:14:42. > :14:44.to read her bedtime story at night, and we had extra time with her and
:14:45. > :14:49.made sure she was involved and I'm sure he will do the same. I will
:14:50. > :14:53.probably do the physical part of it but I think he will be very happy to
:14:54. > :15:02.do that playing, talking and all the other stuff. The classic sitting on
:15:03. > :15:07.the knee. Very much so. Both of us are committed to the idea that you
:15:08. > :15:12.should start talking to your baby, really, at birth because talking,
:15:13. > :15:16.reading and singing builds brain cells so our poor child was
:15:17. > :15:20.subjected both of us talking, reading and singing. I sang every
:15:21. > :15:26.night to Chelsea. We would look out the window and there would be a mum,
:15:27. > :15:31.I would be singing, I would sing Moon River, until she developed an
:15:32. > :15:37.ear and is about 18 months, she listed her finger up and said, "no
:15:38. > :15:41.sing." You can't be talented at everything. That is not a talent of
:15:42. > :15:45.mine. We'd love to talk to you about some of the global issues affecting
:15:46. > :15:50.the world today and one of the main ones is that the US has issued this
:15:51. > :15:55.global warning. Lots of people are speculating about what it is that is
:15:56. > :15:59.actually going on. Can you tell us how serious the situation has to be
:16:00. > :16:04.before one of these warnings is issued across the world? That's a
:16:05. > :16:10.very important question. It does have to be serious. There has to be
:16:11. > :16:13.a credible threat that we have come across, perhaps because some of our
:16:14. > :16:19.partners around the world have brought it to our attention, and we
:16:20. > :16:25.want to put on notice governments and publics. And what we know is
:16:26. > :16:30.that unfortunately a lot of these groups are still determined to
:16:31. > :16:33.inflict violence and to do so in a spectacular way, which is why this
:16:34. > :16:39.particular threat is taken so seriously, because it seems to
:16:40. > :16:43.affect airline travel. I don't think people should be changing their
:16:44. > :16:48.plans. I flew over yesterday. I will be flying in Europe and going back
:16:49. > :16:54.from Paris in a few days. But it's important to take the threat
:16:55. > :16:57.seriously. Another front-page story today is ISIS, which has been all
:16:58. > :17:01.over the news for so long. We've seen so many young men going over
:17:02. > :17:05.from the likes of Britain. I'm not sure what the situation is in
:17:06. > :17:09.America but we are seeing young men leaving from here and going to
:17:10. > :17:13.fight. How do you counteract that? There are several things you have to
:17:14. > :17:19.do at once. I saw the front pages over here and we believe there are
:17:20. > :17:25.at least 1000, maybe as many as 2000, foreign frighteners from
:17:26. > :17:29.Europe -- foreign fighters from Europe that are involved in some
:17:30. > :17:35.kind of extremist group. ISIS is the one grabbing headlines but there are
:17:36. > :17:40.others which are Al-Qaeda wannabes. But the key to stopping that, what
:17:41. > :17:44.do you say? We have to support other countries and that's what the United
:17:45. > :17:48.States and others are trying to do now with Iraq, to try to get them to
:17:49. > :17:57.have a unified response, which means making sure the Sunnis feel like
:17:58. > :18:03.they have a future in Iraq and don't want to support the extremists. They
:18:04. > :18:09.joined with the United States back in 2006, 2007, 2008, to drive out
:18:10. > :18:13.Al-Qaeda in Iraq. We have a new government in Iraq, Neury al-Maliki,
:18:14. > :18:19.and he did not maintain the inclusivity. He did not say to the
:18:20. > :18:23.Sunnis, "we're all in this together, you are at our table, " and they
:18:24. > :18:28.feel that the enemy of their enemy is their friend, and they are going
:18:29. > :18:35.to try to bring down his government unless they get more support to be
:18:36. > :18:40.part of a unified Iraq. So a lot of what must happen has to happen on
:18:41. > :18:46.the ground. In Syria, we are looking to try to help the moderate elements
:18:47. > :18:52.because a vacuum was created and Assad pounded the Syrian people so
:18:53. > :18:56.mercilessly that the vacuum was filled by these foreign fighters and
:18:57. > :19:00.extremists. We have to all be aware that this could have very broad
:19:01. > :19:04.locations for Europe and the US. You talk at the start of the book about
:19:05. > :19:09.one of the most significant things you saw as Secretary of State, the
:19:10. > :19:13.assassination of a Osama Bin Laden. We hoped that after that, this
:19:14. > :19:19.wouldn't happen. Do you think in hindsight that that was significant
:19:20. > :19:23.enough? It was significant but not enough and we knew that at the time.
:19:24. > :19:30.Part of what we were doing was bringing in lard and to justice. I
:19:31. > :19:33.thought it was very important to finish that business with our
:19:34. > :19:38.country so I supported what the president ordered. It was a very
:19:39. > :19:45.risky decision and there was no guarantee it would work but we have
:19:46. > :19:50.seen the gradual erosion of what we call core Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
:19:51. > :19:56.There, unfortunately, are plenty of extremists who wish to fill that
:19:57. > :19:59.space and they are doing so by attacking the Pakistani government,
:20:00. > :20:04.by continuing to try to destabilise Afghanistan, and then we have what
:20:05. > :20:09.is called an arc of instability, from North Africa into the Middle
:20:10. > :20:12.East and South Asia. Is that something you expected? It was
:20:13. > :20:19.already happening. We knew that Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
:20:20. > :20:25.existed, mainly in Yemen, we knew about Al-Shabab, and other groups
:20:26. > :20:29.forming because there is a split and a deep, deep conflict within Islam
:20:30. > :20:35.which also has to be addressed. I believe that Muslim leaders, Muslim
:20:36. > :20:40.majority countrys' governments need to be standing up against this
:20:41. > :20:45.because it is the most direct threat to them, to their authority and
:20:46. > :20:48.their people's safety. You talk a lot of those choices in the book and
:20:49. > :20:52.we saw the picture of you in that room in the White House. Just an
:20:53. > :20:57.extraordinary anecdote in there. We haven't got time to go into it but
:20:58. > :21:01.it's all in there. We don't know whether you've noticed
:21:02. > :21:04.- you probably have - but people think that if you wanted to be the
:21:05. > :21:09.President, you would make quite a good one. Thank you. Some people
:21:10. > :21:15.believe that. But there is always the other side! We went out and
:21:16. > :21:16.asked some British women what they would want the first female
:21:17. > :21:26.president of America to do. I think to have a female president
:21:27. > :21:33.would just give hope to so many women around the world, in so many
:21:34. > :21:38.different fields. That finally women had been given an equal position as
:21:39. > :21:42.men. Having a female president would inspire me, simply because I would
:21:43. > :21:45.like to have a career in politics and seeing a female president
:21:46. > :21:49.achieving something I want to do would be a mass of inspiration. If
:21:50. > :21:52.she was successful, it would definitely prove that women are
:21:53. > :21:58.capable of holding high positions and prove to the rest of the world
:21:59. > :22:02.that women deserve to be in power. It's important that women are
:22:03. > :22:06.properly represented in politics and in this country, the representation
:22:07. > :22:10.is appalling. I feel like women can do just as much as men in terms of
:22:11. > :22:15.decision-making when they have the power and the ability. In business,
:22:16. > :22:20.we come across situations all the time where it is essentially men in
:22:21. > :22:23.charge, so to have the most important executive in the free
:22:24. > :22:28.world being a woman would be a major signal. Young girls need something
:22:29. > :22:33.to aspire to and a female US president would allow them to do
:22:34. > :22:38.that. It's going to open the doors for every girl who thinks they have
:22:39. > :22:43.a shot. When I was growing up, the only thing we had a shot at was to
:22:44. > :22:49.become Miss America and I never got over the fact that I never got
:22:50. > :22:52.there. So you run with it, Hillary. I think she will take more time when
:22:53. > :22:57.she's deciding what decisions to make for the country. We women are
:22:58. > :23:01.more nurturing. We've never tried having a leader with a nurturing,
:23:02. > :23:06.maternal side. There might be a few less wars and conflicts. It's
:23:07. > :23:08.important because women make up 50 the centre the population and
:23:09. > :23:14.they've got to be adequately represented at the top in politics.
:23:15. > :23:19.-- 50% of the population. So it doesn't matter whether it is America
:23:20. > :23:24.or hear - we need women in charge. Indeed, Janet Street-Porter. 49
:23:25. > :23:28.countries, including ours, have had a female in charge. Look at that
:23:29. > :23:32.list. I think the knighted States needs to be on it and I hope we will
:23:33. > :23:39.because I believe, as one of the women you interviewed said, we are
:23:40. > :23:43.50% of the population, we have an enormous amount of talent. Women are
:23:44. > :23:49.moving forward in the military, in academia in business and in
:23:50. > :23:52.politics. When President Obama was elected, it broke that barrier of an
:23:53. > :23:57.African-American being our president, which I thought was
:23:58. > :24:02.extraordinary. I believe we should try to break the glass ceiling for
:24:03. > :24:07.women as well. During a presidential campaign, you had a few choice words
:24:08. > :24:13.and you really went for it. We went at them! It must've been slightly
:24:14. > :24:16.awkward afterwards. Well, I had known him and campaigned for him
:24:17. > :24:21.when he ran for the Senate from Illinois. I kept a picture of him
:24:22. > :24:29.and Michelle and their daughters in myself out of this. Did you take it
:24:30. > :24:36.down afterwards? It stayed the whole time, much to some people's
:24:37. > :24:40.surprise! He knew it and I knew it. You both believe you are the best
:24:41. > :24:44.person or you wouldn't be subjecting yourself to the gauntlet of American
:24:45. > :24:49.politics. When it was over, as I write in the book, I met with him,
:24:50. > :24:53.we cleared the air on a few things, my husband and I offered our sport,
:24:54. > :24:59.we did more than 100 events and I was thrilled when he won. I was
:25:00. > :25:01.astonished when he asked me to be secretary of state but he told me
:25:02. > :25:04.that part of the reason he'd asked me was that we went through that
:25:05. > :25:09.really hard campaign together. And he knew you were tough. We got to
:25:10. > :25:14.know each other even better as competitors and when he asked me and
:25:15. > :25:19.I said no because I wanted to go to the Senate, but finally said yes, at
:25:20. > :25:23.the end of the conversation he said, "contrary to reports, I think we can
:25:24. > :25:28.become good friends," and we did. We became partners first and then
:25:29. > :25:32.friends. But it was good that you left him dangling. We know he can
:25:33. > :25:38.deliver a joke. We don't know if you've seen this but have I at this.
:25:39. > :25:45.Despite many obstacles, much has changed during my time at office.
:25:46. > :25:50.Four years ago I was locked in a brutal primary battle with Hillary
:25:51. > :26:01.Clinton. Four years later, she won't stop sending me drunk texts. We've
:26:02. > :26:06.had fun together. I write in the book - and only a friend would do
:26:07. > :26:09.this - was at a really important meeting about nuclear arms in Prague
:26:10. > :26:13.and we had been meeting all morning, we took a break for lunch, and then
:26:14. > :26:17.we were going back in to try to get a new treaty, which we did, with the
:26:18. > :26:24.Russians to lower the number of nuclear weapons. He said, "Hillary,
:26:25. > :26:29.I need to talk to you, " and I walk into a corner and he goes, " you
:26:30. > :26:34.have food in your teeth". Nobody but a friend would do that. The book is
:26:35. > :26:38.called Hard Choices. But we had a hard choice this afternoon. We
:26:39. > :26:42.wondered whether we should show you talking about foreign policy in East
:26:43. > :26:45.Asia or whether we should show a clip of you dancing in
:26:46. > :26:48.Johannesburg. We went for the dancing! You've been doing your
:26:49. > :26:59.homework! Did you think it was getting a
:27:00. > :27:02.little bit weird? I'm still of the generation where I had no idea there
:27:03. > :27:07.were 100 cellphones taking pictures! Is that the most awkward
:27:08. > :27:13.thing you've done to keep diplomatic relations going? That was fun. It
:27:14. > :27:17.was a fun night. There was a big dinner for me that the South African
:27:18. > :27:21.Foreign Minister gave for me. We always have a little game with our
:27:22. > :27:25.guests. We do things a bit differently here! We have a game
:27:26. > :27:34.aptly named Hard Choices. Let's play. Hope you enjoyed this! We'll
:27:35. > :27:38.start with fashion. In the book, you say that you don't conform - if you
:27:39. > :27:42.want to wear your hair up, you will, if you want but glasses on, you
:27:43. > :27:53.will. But if you had to take style advice from anybody, would it be...
:27:54. > :28:01.Dolly Parton or Angola Merkel? Let me put it this way. For daytime,
:28:02. > :28:07.Angela, for night-time, Dolly. You're going out for a meal with a
:28:08. > :28:12.table for two. You are here in London. Who do you choose as your
:28:13. > :28:18.dinner guest? Would it be David Miliband, who we know you like, or
:28:19. > :28:22.his brother Ed Miliband? I know David much better and I've had many
:28:23. > :28:27.meals with him and I can tell you, he doesn't just eat a banana! But I
:28:28. > :28:34.would look forward to having a meal with Ed in the future. Onto the last
:28:35. > :28:43.one. Who will be remembered as the greater president... Here we go!
:28:44. > :28:49.Will it be oh bar on a? Or, of course, Bill Clinton? -- Barack
:28:50. > :28:57.Obama. Let me put it this way... Dolly Parton? That's good! For both
:28:58. > :29:02.of them, I give them high marks. I think what my husband did on the
:29:03. > :29:06.economy and the balanced budget and the surplus and helping to oversee
:29:07. > :29:10.the creation of 23 million new jobs was great in the 1990s. I think what
:29:11. > :29:15.President Obama has done, inheriting the worst global economic crisis
:29:16. > :29:19.since the great depression, getting us out of that hole - and it was
:29:20. > :29:24.hard and it was controversial - and beginning the process of getting
:29:25. > :29:27.health care for every American was really consequential. I'm really
:29:28. > :29:33.proud that I married the one and I served with the other. Very quickly,
:29:34. > :29:40.some grandmotherly ad buys for you. Always be prepared to play. Spoil
:29:41. > :29:44.them at every opportunity. Just enjoy every moment because time
:29:45. > :29:50.passes too quickly. Speaking of which, we're out of time. Hillary
:29:51. > :29:53.Clinton, thank you so much. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE