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:00:16. > :00:22.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

:00:23. > :00:27.Tonight, sees the start of the much anticipated new BBC drama Our Zoo,

:00:28. > :00:33.based on the family who created anded lived at Chester Zoo in the

:00:34. > :00:37.1930's, including June. Now June is all grown up. We will be chatting to

:00:38. > :00:43.her about what it is like to have a lion cub for a best friend. Lovely

:00:44. > :00:48.to have you with us tonight. And George as well. A man who has gone

:00:49. > :00:52.from the Naked Chef to the Comfy Chef. We thought we would make him

:00:53. > :00:57.feel as comfortable as possible. It's Jamie Oliver. Very comfy here.

:00:58. > :01:03.Usually, cushions are banned on the sofa. I know. You upgraded it.

:01:04. > :01:09.Normally we haven't got a budget for soft furnishings. We have you

:01:10. > :01:15.slippers and all. I'm I allowed to keep these? My son would love

:01:16. > :01:20.Zoo-themed for those. The evening. This is for you a hot chocolate. Dig

:01:21. > :01:25.in. Thank you very much. There is a reason. You have a new show all

:01:26. > :01:29.about comfort food and a book to go with it. Started Monday. We will

:01:30. > :01:34.talk about it in due course. Food news in schools. Schools are going

:01:35. > :01:39.back this week. You must be absolutely delighted. You started

:01:40. > :01:43.campaigning years and years back. 10 years next year we started school

:01:44. > :01:51.dinners campaign. Yeah, the last sort of week we have had, you know,

:01:52. > :01:55.it's free school lunches for up to - 4 high pressure 7-year-olds. Really

:01:56. > :01:59.important. The Government are behind it. It's really important. It will

:02:00. > :02:03.be a little bit of extra work for our head teachers and cooks. If we

:02:04. > :02:06.support this right this is an amazing thing for child health and

:02:07. > :02:10.all that stuff. This is for state schools in England. Is it enough for

:02:11. > :02:15.you at the moment? If you spoke to any paediatrician at a doctors you

:02:16. > :02:19.would say, the place you need to start is with pregnant women and

:02:20. > :02:23.nurseries. I don't want to ask for too much. I try to be realistic. A

:02:24. > :02:28.lot of the habit change happens there. Absolutely, getting them in

:02:29. > :02:33.primary school is a beautiful thing. That is where they love food and

:02:34. > :02:40.trying. It will be interesting this time next year to see the difference

:02:41. > :02:45.We have a real chance to make the graph of bad child health to go from

:02:46. > :02:51.that to that. I'm pleased to that. The only hot meal some children will

:02:52. > :02:55.have. A perfect show tonight we have hot chocolate, slippers and we have

:02:56. > :03:00.Kasabian. I love a bit of Kasabian. You will dance along to them before

:03:01. > :03:04.the end of the show. Animals, zoos gla lore. The children of George

:03:05. > :03:10.Mottershead, the creator of Chester Zoo, had a childhood that most could

:03:11. > :03:14.only dream of. Look at these photos. His daughter June is about to relive

:03:15. > :03:19.it all. Her family's story is told in a brand new drama Our Zoo. Ahead

:03:20. > :03:24.of tonight's first episode, June went back to Chester to share some

:03:25. > :03:31.of her favourite memories. I always thought I had a normal childhood,

:03:32. > :03:37.but people did think we were eccentric. My parents were Lizzie

:03:38. > :03:45.and George Mottershead. My big sister was Muriel. My family also

:03:46. > :03:59.included chimpanzees, lion cubs and elephants. I grew up in Chester Zoo.

:04:00. > :04:06.When my father was very small he went to a zoo and the cages were all

:04:07. > :04:13.small. He thought to himself - one day I'll have a zoo and give the

:04:14. > :04:21.animals room to roa. My father had been very badly wounded in the First

:04:22. > :04:27.World War. That's when his parents loaned him some money. In December

:04:28. > :04:36.1930, when I was four, we moved into this house. The first animals we got

:04:37. > :04:42.were the two bears that had been given to my father because they had

:04:43. > :04:48.outgrown their enclosure. We put them in stables to begin with. The

:04:49. > :04:54.local villagers objected. They were frightened of the animals getting

:04:55. > :04:59.out. Cotton merchants and tea merchants and everybody from

:05:00. > :05:05.Liverpool who had large houses and estates they thought it would let

:05:06. > :05:12.down the tone of the place. After six months, we got official

:05:13. > :05:20.permission to open the zoo. The visitors started to trickle in, but

:05:21. > :05:27.the financial situation was chronic. In 1934, dad managed to turn the zoo

:05:28. > :05:38.into a charity. That saved the zoo from closing down. My dad started to

:05:39. > :05:43.court people to bring money in, and that caused a bit of a rift with my

:05:44. > :05:51.mum because she was doing the work and he was doing the socialising.

:05:52. > :05:55.During the war, people were frightened of zoos being bombed and

:05:56. > :06:02.the animals escaping. A lot of animals had to be evacuated from

:06:03. > :06:09.down south. We got two elephants in 1940. Father made me walk through

:06:10. > :06:16.Chester in front of them so that we got as much publicity as we could

:06:17. > :06:22.for the zoo. People thought it was a strange life, but to me it was

:06:23. > :06:27.absolutely normal. I was brought up with Mary, the chimpanzee. It was

:06:28. > :06:34.wonderful. If you taught her to put water on a brick, she could do that

:06:35. > :06:38.-- mortar. Christy was a lion cub. We became, very, very close. She

:06:39. > :06:44.loved coming up behind you and jumping on you. Of course, she was

:06:45. > :06:53.so heavy, you just sank to the ground. Your knees gave way. If she

:06:54. > :06:58.put her teeth on you, her open mouth, never closed them. She was

:06:59. > :07:03.exceptionally good tempered. And then the time came when my father

:07:04. > :07:12.swapped Christy, the lion cub, for a polar bear. That's when I stopped

:07:13. > :07:17.really being too fond of animals because you are heartbroken and you

:07:18. > :07:26.have no say in the matter. I felt I'd let her down. I am amazing that

:07:27. > :07:32.the zoo is so large these days, but it's what, as a family, dreamed of.

:07:33. > :07:41.A zoo without bars. I'm sure they'd be very pleased. June is here, along

:07:42. > :07:47.with her son, George. We heard, obviously, the sad story about you

:07:48. > :07:51.saying goodbye to Christy the cub. The polar bear, there was a happy

:07:52. > :07:56.story to that one? Christy was swapped. We got a male polar bear.

:07:57. > :08:03.We had two females. The lucky thing was that one of them became pregnant

:08:04. > :08:08.and had a live polar bear cub. It grew up. That was wonderful. Real

:08:09. > :08:13.happy feeling within the zoo, even for the am malls to be breeding like

:08:14. > :08:18.that? Quite something to breed polar bears. It was in those days. We saw

:08:19. > :08:23.in the film you had all sorts of animals. We saw the chimpanzees were

:08:24. > :08:29.handy with the cement and bricks there? Of course! I couldn't believe

:08:30. > :08:35.it. You and your husband built the aquarium which stands at Chester Zoo

:08:36. > :08:41.today, didn't you June? Yes. The old aquarium was in the basement of the

:08:42. > :08:49.Oakfield. It flooded regularly. And, the electrics were rather dicey, to

:08:50. > :08:55.be quite honest! The tanks all leaked because it had been closed

:08:56. > :08:59.during the war. So we said to the Society, could we have a new

:09:00. > :09:08.aquarium if we build it in our own time? So we built it in our own

:09:09. > :09:14.time, after work. Wonderful, June. Also we had landing lamps, you know

:09:15. > :09:19.for the aircraft. So we could work at At night-time night. . It is

:09:20. > :09:24.still there. Good foundations? Yes. It's old fashioned a bit now. It

:09:25. > :09:27.still works! The reason we are talking about this is because of the

:09:28. > :09:32.big new drama on BBC tonight. You must have learnt so much about your

:09:33. > :09:35.family history from this? We have, haven't we. We have been trying to

:09:36. > :09:39.tell the story of the family for years. We weren't doing such a good

:09:40. > :09:43.job. Fortunately, a producer from the BBC thought it might make a

:09:44. > :09:48.great drama, that was four years ago. Four years ago everyone will

:09:49. > :09:53.learn about the family. A gorgeous little girl called Honor who plays

:09:54. > :10:02.you? She is fantastic. Let us see her in action. Here she is. Go on

:10:03. > :10:18.then? Nothing to be afraid of. Behold the beast. Wow! He looked

:10:19. > :10:24.right at me. Tell him about Sydney. Camels are 40 million years old. Not

:10:25. > :10:30.this actual one, of course! You said you were going to get rid of them! I

:10:31. > :10:35.can hear the echo around Britain now - we will have to watch this! It

:10:36. > :10:39.looks good. She goes - she's going to be a star. I think so. It must

:10:40. > :10:44.have been interesting for you to see and see on the television your

:10:45. > :10:50.family there in front of it? Wonderful that the whole family were

:10:51. > :10:54.in the series. My grandparents worked hard. My parents worked hard,

:10:55. > :10:58.and my sister worked hard. The they didn't always get the credit they

:10:59. > :11:03.deserved, I don't think. Is everybody will see it now, won't

:11:04. > :11:11.they? I hope so. Jamie has some experience. You used to live next

:11:12. > :11:19.door to a zoo Near to one. My best mate had a zoo pretty much in his

:11:20. > :11:26.house. Really? There used to be 350 animals, club Scouts, he worked in

:11:27. > :11:32.the local one as well. Its on tonight. Thank you for coming along.

:11:33. > :11:37.Our Zoo starts tonight at 9.00pm on BBC One. Shortly we will be talking

:11:38. > :11:44.to Jamie about what makes the perfect comfort food. Before that

:11:45. > :11:50.Joe Crowley has been to find out which injustice from 1682 caused 300

:11:51. > :11:54.women to meet up at a castle in Exeter. Here is a clue. WITCH LAUG.

:11:55. > :12:02.You did that without moving your mouth? Cheeky! Double, double, toll

:12:03. > :12:07.and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble I have come to Exeter for a

:12:08. > :12:11.magical event, where not one, not two, but hundreds of witches have

:12:12. > :12:19.come together for a Grand Witches tea party. What is this? This is my

:12:20. > :12:32.broom. These are goddess eyes I have made. What is this? More rockon

:12:33. > :12:36.green monkey skull. Yes. These are modern switches. Jackie is event

:12:37. > :12:42.organiser and is proud to call herself a witch. Hundreds of witches

:12:43. > :12:47.here today. There is something else behind this. Why are they attending?

:12:48. > :12:53.It is to honour the last three women in England to be hanged for

:12:54. > :13:06.witchcraft. That was Suzanna Edwards, Mary Trembles and Miss

:13:07. > :13:10.Lloyd. They were single. What are you hoping to achieve? We have a

:13:11. > :13:14.petition which we are gaining signatures to try and get the

:13:15. > :13:19.pardoned. We are also imagine a world which is more tolerant and

:13:20. > :13:23.more loving and more compassionate. How important is it to remember

:13:24. > :13:29.these three women? Today we are trying to honour and mend some of

:13:30. > :13:33.the wrong in the past. A lot of innocent women were killed because

:13:34. > :13:38.they looked different or dressed different. Everybody here today, all

:13:39. > :13:44.felt such an emotion towards these three women from 1682 and for each

:13:45. > :13:49.other. It doesn't matter what your belief is, Christian or Muslim, you

:13:50. > :13:53.could be Jewish, a witch, pagan, I'll still be a woman standing next

:13:54. > :13:57.to you saying - that is OK. Whatever you believe is fine. The event is

:13:58. > :14:01.attempting to break the world record for the largest gathering of

:14:02. > :14:05.witches. The current record stands at 765, just over 300 people have

:14:06. > :14:15.come through so far. There is a long way to go. 380! Unfortunately, no

:14:16. > :14:19.world record. The fight for the three women continues and today

:14:20. > :14:29.their memory was marked by a reflective one minute's silence. No

:14:30. > :14:33.shortage of sterotypes here. Wonderful and weird witch costumes

:14:34. > :14:41.what it is about is celebrating the right to be different. We were

:14:42. > :14:49.talking about cauldrons you said nudge me when I get boring. I love a

:14:50. > :14:55.cauldron. Everyone used to cook on cauldrons. A lot of things in Roald

:14:56. > :15:02.Dahl what went in them was normal food. We ate anything that moved in

:15:03. > :15:06.the old days to feed our family. Cooking over fire makes the most

:15:07. > :15:11.incredible food. You sort of do it in this new series. You are making a

:15:12. > :15:16.curry over a fire? I love going into the garden. It's anti-British, we

:15:17. > :15:21.look after our gardens. I dig a hole where there is a nice view and the

:15:22. > :15:25.sunsets, I'm like a fire. I love cooking over fire. It's one of the

:15:26. > :15:29.best things. Smoke and cooking over fire is the secret seasoning we have

:15:30. > :15:35.missed since the invention of the electric oven. You are investing it

:15:36. > :15:40.in comfort food. For so long it has been about quick meals, 15, 20

:15:41. > :15:47.minutes? I have tried to answer questions from the public. Faster

:15:48. > :15:53.food, great value food. Comfort food is 100% JO. It's eccentric. You kind

:15:54. > :15:59.of think, is he all right, is he insane? I have gone to classics like

:16:00. > :16:04.burgers and stuff like that. We have gone around the world to make it a

:16:05. > :16:08.global comfort food book. I have gone ballistic. Stuff that takes

:16:09. > :16:14.time. It's a beautiful thing, isn't it? It's hard to do a cooking show.

:16:15. > :16:19.There is normally some jeopardy or purpose. To cook is almost

:16:20. > :16:23.impossible. OK. I have had my chance. This is the thing. We think

:16:24. > :16:26.we need a national warning. The physical you haven't had your tea

:16:27. > :16:31.he, you are going to want it after seeing this clip. Have a look at

:16:32. > :16:38.this. One little thing I love is just a tiny little pinch of cayenne.

:16:39. > :16:45.Tiny, you won't see it, you will taste it. Not as in hot, but as in

:16:46. > :16:50.KICK! Can you see how it's peeling away like that? That is a good sign.

:16:51. > :16:54.Be rough with it. Don't be scared of it. Then you get underneath it. You

:16:55. > :17:20.just hold it. You can do ten and turn it over and

:17:21. > :17:24.it is a crown. I've spent a day were developed that developing that

:17:25. > :17:28.recipe. Only three ingredients, but the thing is, I used to love the

:17:29. > :17:33.bits that is doubt. That contrast, with the gooey bits inside, amazing.

:17:34. > :17:36.Even the cheese sandwich does not go down a normal path. It want to get

:17:37. > :17:40.people excited about going over the top. To be honest, you can do that

:17:41. > :17:46.by just looking at the pictures in the book. Isn't it?

:17:47. > :17:49.When you were growing up, what defines cooking for you? We were

:17:50. > :17:53.talking about the changes. I've realised early on when it started

:17:54. > :17:59.writing the book, I would ask around, e-mail my team, and nobody

:18:00. > :18:03.said, it is this dish, everybody said, it is this dish and I've

:18:04. > :18:09.remember it and it is because of that. And every person has their own

:18:10. > :18:15.comfort food. What I love about this book is that it is quite eccentric

:18:16. > :18:18.but hopefully you either learn something or think you can do it

:18:19. > :18:23.better because you have your own. I love that emotion. Comfort food is

:18:24. > :18:30.very emotional. It picks me up on a few rough. And guess it has come at

:18:31. > :18:33.an interesting point in your life. We read recently that you feel like

:18:34. > :18:40.you want to slow down. You feel like you want to take online? I have been

:18:41. > :18:44.very busy for the last seven years. And I am a liability because I will

:18:45. > :18:55.give anything a go. I'd think it is time to focus and concentrate on

:18:56. > :19:02.what I love. And be better and less. It is interesting, comfort food

:19:03. > :19:05.might reflect that very thought. I do not think will ever write a

:19:06. > :19:15.better book than this. I don't think so. I would be surprised if I do.

:19:16. > :19:20.Really? 100%. It is the pure brandy, no water, no ice. And I want to do

:19:21. > :19:29.it as a gift, I want people to give it to people. Spend time doing it.

:19:30. > :19:32.People can read the book and see it for themselves. Jamie's Comfort Food

:19:33. > :19:34.continues next Monday at 8pm on Channel four.

:19:35. > :19:39.One of the biggest British bands around Kasabian are getting ready

:19:40. > :19:42.to perform outside for day 3 of The One Show Music Festival. There's a

:19:43. > :19:48.Another group of people waiting in anticipation are those who

:19:49. > :19:50.literally live right on the Scottish English border.

:19:51. > :19:52.It's two weeks tomorrow until the referendum,

:19:53. > :19:55.and Andy Kershaw's visited Berwick Upon Tweed, to meet a man who won't

:19:56. > :20:09.know how much of his farm will be in the UK until the votes are in.

:20:10. > :20:13.This beautiful and historic landscape between England and

:20:14. > :20:23.Scotland is home to more than 100,000 people. It is one of the

:20:24. > :20:27.oldest border areas in the world, and the British have been able to

:20:28. > :20:32.come and go as they please. Joining me on the road trip is a Professor

:20:33. > :20:35.from Northumbria University who has written about the potential impact

:20:36. > :20:41.of Scottish independence on people living on or near the border. Why is

:20:42. > :20:47.the referendum of particular significance to those living here?

:20:48. > :20:50.Thousands of people travel across-the-board each day for work

:20:51. > :20:57.on the basis of an open border. A shared currency, and free trade. If

:20:58. > :21:00.Scotland offers independence, there will be a number of challenges but

:21:01. > :21:07.these are the sorts of issues that other European countries deal with

:21:08. > :21:10.on a day-to-day basis practically. I'm taking the Professor to meet

:21:11. > :21:15.some of the locals who travel across-the-board every day for work.

:21:16. > :21:22.Peter Greenwood owns a garage one mile from Scotland. I'd go over the

:21:23. > :21:24.border every day four or five times, will only the passport? Will only

:21:25. > :21:31.day work Visa? Is he going to need a passport? The short answer is no.

:21:32. > :21:35.For my point of view, I think as long as we are members of the trade

:21:36. > :21:39.area and we have EU membership, the flow across-the-board on a

:21:40. > :21:44.day-to-day basis will not change. And how about family life, you think

:21:45. > :21:48.that will be affected? Where do you go to the hospital? At the minute,

:21:49. > :21:53.we go to hospital in Scotland, because it is quicker to go there.

:21:54. > :21:58.This might be an area where independence might not make much of

:21:59. > :22:02.a difference. The NHS in Scotland is quite independent from other NHS

:22:03. > :22:06.systems south of the border. I think health is an area that will not be

:22:07. > :22:08.that affected. But the Better Together campaign says there's no

:22:09. > :22:13.guarantee that people like Peter would be able to use the Scottish

:22:14. > :22:19.hospitals if the country is split. Three of Peter's employees travel to

:22:20. > :22:22.work from Scotland and they are interested in which currency and

:22:23. > :22:29.independent Scotland would use, and the future of pensions. Graham is

:22:30. > :22:34.one of them. Nobody has said that this is how pensions will work. What

:22:35. > :22:38.of the economy goes belly up? The pension guarantee scheme covers the

:22:39. > :22:41.UK. The Scottish government says they will have a similar scheme but

:22:42. > :22:46.there is a doubt as to whether Scotland could afford the pension

:22:47. > :22:52.payments. This time, it is the yes campaign which disagrees. They say

:22:53. > :22:57.Scotland's financial position is strong enough to provide a

:22:58. > :23:02.high-quality pension system. We are on our way to meet a farmer called

:23:03. > :23:09.John. He lives in the most northerly house in England. His land straddles

:23:10. > :23:16.the border. 70% of his farmland is in England and 30% is in Scotland.

:23:17. > :23:21.John has never thought much about the border running through his farm.

:23:22. > :23:29.Until now. Are we in England or Scotland? We are in England. But one

:23:30. > :23:34.more field and we are in Scotland. You constantly driving in and out of

:23:35. > :23:44.Scotland? Every day. But you never think about it. That is us crossing

:23:45. > :23:50.the border now. We are in Scotland. As a UK farmer, you get EU

:23:51. > :23:54.subsidies? We do. Because the biggest part in England, Scotland

:23:55. > :24:00.has to pay England and England pays us. So we do not get paid until

:24:01. > :24:03.Scotland pays England. The campaigns disagree as to whether an

:24:04. > :24:09.independent Scotland would automatically be in the EU and carry

:24:10. > :24:13.on getting farming subsidies. Businesses rely on that income. They

:24:14. > :24:16.would struggle without them. An independent Scotland will have to

:24:17. > :24:21.apply for separate membership which could take a while. Because the

:24:22. > :24:24.policy payments are higher for independent countries, the Scottish

:24:25. > :24:33.side of your business will eventually be higher. And we are

:24:34. > :24:36.crossing the border again. EU membership, pensions, keeping the

:24:37. > :24:42.pound, health care, just some of the areas where the campaigns disagree.

:24:43. > :24:51.And we have had a word with Andy about getting his dog a seat belt.

:24:52. > :24:53.To explore more of the latest stories, analysis and

:24:54. > :24:56.reports on the Scottish Referendum, visit bbc.co.uk/scotlanddecides.

:24:57. > :25:05.Now we're here on stage with Kasabian -

:25:06. > :25:15.You are going to do one song live on the show. What do you have for us?

:25:16. > :25:20.Bumblebee. And three more, including Empire, and the iPlayer. A giver

:25:21. > :25:25.joining us tonight. Jamie's Comfort Food continues next Monday at 8pm on

:25:26. > :25:31.Channel four and the book is on now. Tomorrow, Michael Pailin will be on

:25:32. > :25:33.the sofa and Sam Smith will be on the stage. We leave you with

:25:34. > :25:56.Kasabian and Bumblebee. # Get him a message, a message from

:25:57. > :26:02.me # I'm caught up in love and I'm in

:26:03. > :26:07.ecstasy # What can I do now, when nothing's

:26:08. > :26:13.the same? # And all that i know, I wanna do it

:26:14. > :26:19.again # Well tell me now

:26:20. > :26:23.# Life is so simple when you are with me

:26:24. > :26:30.# 'Cause when we're together, I'm in # I'm in ecstasy

:26:31. > :26:46.# I'm in ecstasy # All you pretty things, get on

:26:47. > :26:59.board this mothership # All you got to do is be ready for

:27:00. > :27:13.action, baby # Don't think I'm twisted, as a

:27:14. > :27:15.matter of fact # Where I fight off robots, and the

:27:16. > :27:26.men in the suits # Wear out the souls of your monkey

:27:27. > :27:31.boots # Well tell me now

:27:32. > :27:38.# Can't get enough of the sunshine # And all the colours that are

:27:39. > :27:43.coming on strong # Trying to hold on

:27:44. > :27:45.# Trying to hold on # Can't get enough of the mantra

:27:46. > :27:58.# All we will ever feel is ecstasy # We're in ecstasy

:27:59. > :28:11.# Everybody go! # All you pretty things, get on

:28:12. > :28:16.board this mothership # All you got to be is ready for

:28:17. > :28:47.action, baby # All you pretty things, get on

:28:48. > :28:51.board this mothership # All you got to be is ready for