:00:22. > :00:27.Welcome to The One Show. A quick summary of tonight's guest. She
:00:27. > :00:33.banished her gay son, overdosed on sleeping pills, was set on fire by
:00:33. > :00:38.her ex, and he is now trying to drive her insane, and cheers
:00:38. > :00:43.heartbroken because her husband has dumped her. A normal day on the
:00:44. > :00:51.square for Nina Wadia. Nice to see you. A lovely dress, very summery.
:00:51. > :00:56.I after that in trip, just take a break. -- that introduction. This
:00:56. > :01:02.evening, we have a newborn gorilla, and we need your help. Here is the
:01:02. > :01:06.baby. It was born at Bristol Zoo. We don't know if it was a boy or a
:01:06. > :01:10.girl. The zoo is keen to have an African name, to fit in with the
:01:10. > :01:16.rest of the family. We would like you to send us your suggestions,
:01:16. > :01:20.and before the end of the show, Nina will choose a name. Don't
:01:20. > :01:24.worry, little one, you'll have a name in half-an-hour. In a speech
:01:24. > :01:27.that would have made a Margaret Thatcher proud, David Cameron
:01:27. > :01:32.announced that council tenants will be given bigger discounts to allow
:01:32. > :01:35.them to buy their homes. 31 years ago, tenants were allowed to
:01:35. > :01:39.purchase their houses for the first time, which spurred the sell-off of
:01:39. > :01:49.millions of homes. This used to be a council estate in
:01:49. > :01:52.
:01:52. > :01:59.Essex. Now, it is more complicated, The Margaret Thatcher brought in a
:01:59. > :02:04.new law that gave millions of people the chance to buy their
:02:04. > :02:08.council house. They happen to live under the jurisdiction of a council
:02:08. > :02:18.is -- a socialist council that did not believe in the independence
:02:18. > :02:24.
:02:24. > :02:27.that cams with ownership. -- comes The Iron Lady visited these people
:02:27. > :02:33.to hand over the deeds to the buyers of a council house, under
:02:33. > :02:37.the government's new Housing Act. In the 70s, 31% of all homes in
:02:37. > :02:41.Britain were rented out by local authorities. The Act forced
:02:41. > :02:45.councils to allow tenants to buy them. An Englishman's home is his
:02:45. > :02:50.castle. Not really if you are a council tenant. You can make the
:02:50. > :02:55.odd minor alteration, but really, you were hardly Lord of the manor.
:02:55. > :03:01.The right-to-buy changed all this for millions of people. Dr Peter
:03:01. > :03:05.King has studied the Conservatives' policy. They lost two elections in
:03:05. > :03:08.1974, they needed something that was popular and the right to buy
:03:08. > :03:13.seems to fit the bill. They wanted to create the property owning
:03:13. > :03:16.democracy. By the late 70s, over half of the population were owner-
:03:16. > :03:19.occupiers and the people who were not were working class. This was
:03:19. > :03:22.the opportunity to give those households the chance of doing it.
:03:22. > :03:31.The other side was that Mrs Thatcher was no fan of local
:03:31. > :03:36.government. Council housing, was a most obvious statement of municipal
:03:36. > :03:44.socialism. And it was a target. There is no prouder word in our
:03:44. > :03:49.There were protests, but the policy was a big hit, with discounts of up
:03:49. > :03:53.to 50%, it was like giving money away. You could say it is probably
:03:53. > :03:58.one of the most successful housing policies there has ever been. 2.5
:03:58. > :04:00.million people took up the right to buy. If the aim was to extend own
:04:00. > :04:05.occupation and restrict council housing, it certainly achieved it.
:04:05. > :04:09.A lot of people did well out of the right to buy. Walking down a street
:04:09. > :04:13.like this, you can often tell which are the right to buy houses, by the
:04:13. > :04:18.nice wall, the gate, the posh door. If I were a betting man, I would
:04:18. > :04:22.say this place was a right to buy a house. Of course, I am cheating. I
:04:22. > :04:26.know this is a right to buy a house because I am a thorough and
:04:26. > :04:33.diligent researcher. It is owned by Milly Winters, who bought it with
:04:33. > :04:38.their sister in 1981. The price sounds ridiculous now. It was
:04:38. > :04:42.�7,000 and 10. The �10, at what that was for, I don't know. Did you
:04:42. > :04:46.start making changes straight away? Yes, we decided we would like to
:04:46. > :04:51.have the kitchen and bathroom extended. Where we are sitting now
:04:51. > :04:55.was... The garden. If it hadn't have been for the right to buy, we
:04:55. > :04:59.wouldn't have been in a position to have bought the property. There is
:04:59. > :05:02.no doubt that many individuals benefited from the right to buy,
:05:02. > :05:06.especially in pleasant areas like this. But you don't have to look
:05:06. > :05:13.too far to find some negative aspects, too. As a fearless
:05:13. > :05:17.investigative reporter, that is what I am going to do. I tracked
:05:17. > :05:21.down Bill Jennings. He was a housing officer for Barking and
:05:21. > :05:25.Dagenham council for more than 20 years. What happened to the
:05:25. > :05:29.neighbourhood? Neighbours lived side-by-side for many years, never
:05:29. > :05:35.a cross word. One of a sudden, one has bought the property and one has
:05:35. > :05:39.an, and there would be fall-outs. Things such as removing a fence and
:05:39. > :05:43.relocating it six inches, and those neighbours would no longer be
:05:43. > :05:49.friends. Bill took me on a tour to see how things had changed. This
:05:49. > :05:54.house beside us, a side extension, a garage, two small lions, just to
:05:54. > :05:58.mark their territory. Was it a good or a bad thing? I think there are
:05:58. > :06:02.winners and losers. The winners are the people who have bought their
:06:02. > :06:07.houses at a massive discounted price, and there are losers. Some
:06:07. > :06:11.people might feel it is the end of council housing as we know it.
:06:11. > :06:15.years after the right to buy began, sales have slowed to a trickle, but
:06:15. > :06:19.the policy has undoubtedly changed for ever the country's relationship
:06:19. > :06:23.with owning property. After David Cameron's announcement
:06:23. > :06:28.yesterday about England, the Welsh and Northern Ireland governments
:06:28. > :06:31.are still to decide whether tenants will get a discount. From last year,
:06:31. > :06:36.new council tenants in Scotland are no longer able to buy their council
:06:36. > :06:44.houses. It is quite a complicated subject. Arthur is here to explain
:06:44. > :06:48.it all. Don't expect me to explain it all! You said in the film that
:06:48. > :06:55.people buying council houses are at a trickle, why is that?
:06:55. > :06:58.discounts are not what they were. There are still 5 million people
:06:58. > :07:02.waiting for somewhere, so it is a big problem and I don't know how
:07:02. > :07:07.much this will solve it. Back in the 70s and 80s, Margaret Thatcher
:07:07. > :07:13.was material for you as a comedian, so what do you make of Ed
:07:14. > :07:21.Miliband's announcement? Maggie, Maggie, Maggie! People say, or we,
:07:21. > :07:25.or a, or if you are in Guildford, hurrah! The Labour Party did not
:07:25. > :07:28.disapprove of the right to buy, it was more that housing was not
:07:28. > :07:35.replaced suitably. There are still a lot of people out there who are
:07:35. > :07:40.really struggling. Cameron's plan is to replace... That remains to be
:07:40. > :07:48.seen. I am not sure what Shelter will have to say about what the
:07:48. > :07:55.result of this is. This is all very different to your kind of
:07:55. > :08:00.experience in Mumbai. Yes. We live in a Parsee colony. There are
:08:00. > :08:05.different types of social housing are there. Six of us grew up in a
:08:06. > :08:11.one-bed flat. You went to Hong Kong as a 9-year-old and then came to
:08:11. > :08:18.Britain, how did you see it very over here? I lived in flats all the
:08:18. > :08:25.way through. To be honest, not much of a difference. There was less
:08:25. > :08:30.fast as we grew up, less -- less of us as we grew up. It is a struggle
:08:30. > :08:33.for a lot of people, even first- time couples, people who want to
:08:33. > :08:37.get their foot on the property ladder, it is so difficult.
:08:37. > :08:46.wonder, why are we always obsessed with owning our houses. They don't
:08:46. > :08:50.do it so much in other countries. Everyone has got their views on how
:08:50. > :08:55.to cut council budgets but we couldn't find anybody who would
:08:55. > :08:59.want to get rid of lollipop men or women. We were surprised when we
:08:59. > :09:03.heard of one local authority, and there are others, who wanted to do
:09:03. > :09:09.just that. They take to the street come wind,
:09:09. > :09:12.rain or shine, to protect asked -- our children, but now they are
:09:12. > :09:19.mobilising for a different reason. No longer just protecting their
:09:19. > :09:24.community, this time out to protect their jobs. Thank you, see you in
:09:24. > :09:29.the morning. Be good. Apparently, there is a new Riddle going around
:09:29. > :09:34.the school playground. What is yellow, goes out in all weathers
:09:34. > :09:40.and is facing extinction? That is right, the lollipop person. One of
:09:40. > :09:44.the many places they are in dared - - in danger is Dorset, where the
:09:44. > :09:49.road safety budget has been cut, meaning some of the 60 posts may
:09:49. > :09:54.have to go. We are there for everybody, to keep an eye on the
:09:54. > :09:58.children, for the grandparents, for everybody who passes. It cheers are
:09:58. > :10:02.they up, it cheers your day up. Parents get used to lollipop people
:10:02. > :10:08.being there. They know they can trust their children to be crossed
:10:08. > :10:14.safely. Recently I had a taxi nearly go into me. If I wasn't
:10:14. > :10:19.there, that child, I don't know what might have happened. They are
:10:19. > :10:25.obviously not happy, but what about the kids to use them every day?
:10:25. > :10:29.should keep the lollipop ladies. If you look and you don't really think
:10:29. > :10:33.about the lollipop lady, you just go ahead and you might get hit by a
:10:33. > :10:37.bus or something. We don't want that.
:10:37. > :10:42.Grandma Helena also backs the campaign to save the school
:10:42. > :10:47.crossing wardens. What would you do if the lollipop lady wasn't there?
:10:47. > :10:51.It would be very awkward, because a lot of the time, my daughter is not
:10:51. > :10:56.able to take her daughters. I can help out but I can't do it every
:10:56. > :11:00.day. Some councils will say, why don't the parents chip-in and cover
:11:01. > :11:07.the cost of lollipop ladies? No, we already pay our taxes for most
:11:07. > :11:13.things. Not really, I think we have already paid for it. We really do
:11:13. > :11:18.need them. Even with the lollipop patrols, the roads around Holy
:11:18. > :11:24.Trinity Primary School get busy, so school governor Helen Toft runs a
:11:24. > :11:29.walking bass. A convoy of kids she supervises walking to school. Does
:11:29. > :11:33.she think parents can take over all together? In some cases, there are
:11:33. > :11:39.parents taking their children to school. A lot of parents simply
:11:39. > :11:43.need to work. If their job starts at 9 o'clock, they can't be in two
:11:43. > :11:47.places at once. They depend on safe routes to school, for children to
:11:47. > :11:52.get there in one piece, and to know that they will be safe. School
:11:52. > :11:56.crossing patrols began in 1937, when Mrs Betty Hunt was appointed
:11:56. > :11:59.by Bath City Council to help children cross roads outside
:11:59. > :12:05.Kingsmead School. Since then, they sprang up all over the country,
:12:05. > :12:09.becoming a much-loved part of growing up for many British
:12:09. > :12:13.schoolchildren. Surprisingly, it has never been compulsory for
:12:13. > :12:18.councils to provide them. With local authorities facing cutbacks,
:12:18. > :12:21.many are looking at ways of saving money. A recent survey found that
:12:21. > :12:25.one in four local authorities contacted were either planning to
:12:25. > :12:29.scale back, or completely scrap their lollipop teams. Could
:12:29. > :12:34.technology provide a cheaper solution? Why don't they put in a
:12:34. > :12:38.zebra crossing or a pelican crossing? Zebra crossings rely on
:12:38. > :12:44.vehicles stopping, but also one children making a decision when it
:12:44. > :12:47.is safe to cross. Sometimes they can get that wrong. Having a school
:12:47. > :12:50.crossing patrol means that is controlled. It is a brave local
:12:50. > :12:55.councillor who will want to be remembered for cutting lollipop men
:12:55. > :13:00.and women. In Dorset, the local uproar seems to be hitting the mark.
:13:00. > :13:06.How much money are you potentially going to save here, by removing the
:13:06. > :13:10.lollipop men and ladies at risk? Roughly �1,000 per crossing patrol.
:13:10. > :13:15.Bearing in mind we are dealing with public money and we have to make
:13:15. > :13:19.sure we are spending money safely and wisely, every little bit counts.
:13:19. > :13:23.The county council has to save �31 million across its budget.
:13:23. > :13:27.Dorset, the local uproar seems to be hitting the mark. We have
:13:27. > :13:31.learned the council is now having a rethink, and is likely to recommend
:13:31. > :13:36.that 50 out of 60 posts remain, whilst seeking alternative funding
:13:36. > :13:40.for the other 10. It may be that lollipop patrols are a cut too far.
:13:40. > :13:49.You could be stuck in traffic and you would get us smiling at you,
:13:49. > :13:59.and it would make your day a lot easier. That is my shift done. Buy.
:13:59. > :14:01.
:14:01. > :14:07.You can't get rid of the lollipop lady. You have got two children.
:14:07. > :14:10.That school. I have a -- that is cruel. I have a 7-year-old and a 5-
:14:10. > :14:16.year-old, they love their lollipop lady. She has taught them traffic
:14:16. > :14:26.rules, it is fantastic. She has guided them, it is horrible that
:14:26. > :14:28.
:14:28. > :14:31.I agree, but there is a thing called lollipop rage.
:14:31. > :14:38.Where some people get angry when they are held up.
:14:38. > :14:44.Is it true? Yes. And some members of the public are
:14:44. > :14:48.angry about secret cameras put in the lollipops like this! I can't
:14:48. > :14:54.believe that. I wave to mine. They are lovely.
:14:54. > :15:00.Do you use the lollipop lady to cross the road? No, but when I'm
:15:00. > :15:04.driving I always wave. -- wave. Any way, Nina, back to EastEnders,
:15:04. > :15:11.a massive storyline that leads up to Christmas. Can you give us an
:15:11. > :15:18.idea of what is going on? Only if you want me to get fired before
:15:18. > :15:24.December. It is exciting stuff. Mass ued and
:15:24. > :15:28.her are divorced. She is isolated and by herself. The doctor makes
:15:28. > :15:33.his move. The last time you were on The One
:15:33. > :15:36.Show, you were looking very happy together. There you are!
:15:36. > :15:41.perfect couple. But it's been a bad few weeks for
:15:41. > :15:46.you? Yes, it has. This terrible, poor woman. She's been drugged,
:15:46. > :15:52.isolated, no-one likes here. I'm sick of her voice and I'm playing
:15:52. > :15:58.her, so! I don't blame anyone else. You've been through the mill. Let's
:15:58. > :16:05.have a look at a clip here with your son, Sai id.
:16:05. > :16:10.I told you I made a mistake. said it was a mistake, but how can
:16:10. > :16:20.it be? You took one pill then another. You took one pill after
:16:20. > :16:21.
:16:21. > :16:25.another... Until... How can that be a mistake?! I don't know.
:16:25. > :16:33.intense! Is it really draining for you? It is. It is.
:16:33. > :16:38.My husband is sick of me playing it and can't wait for Zeinab to bring
:16:38. > :16:46.that home and being funny again. Now, it is home and straight to bed.
:16:46. > :16:49.It must be hard to get rid of that, from a human side? It is. There are
:16:49. > :16:53.certain moments, when I'm with the other economic characters, I have
:16:53. > :16:58.lots of great friendships there. When I have the opportunity I put
:16:58. > :17:03.the humour in, but right now she is gouing through such a tough time it
:17:03. > :17:09.is difficult to do that. And speaking of your real life
:17:09. > :17:14.husband, you and he are working on a film called Four, tell us about
:17:14. > :17:19.that? We had it with us for a while, it came about, we wanted to do
:17:19. > :17:23.something in the British film industry. So this script came
:17:23. > :17:30.across the desk by Paul Connell. It is with a team of any people. We
:17:30. > :17:35.felt that the script was fantastic. We got our dream cast, Sean pert
:17:35. > :17:41.wee, and the next thing we knew we were shooting. It is incredible.
:17:41. > :17:45.It is dark, mainly as you don't leave a warehouse, but it is funny.
:17:45. > :17:51.We are going to see a clip. We can't show the beginning of the
:17:52. > :18:00.clip because it is quite an adult piece it has a 15 certificate. It
:18:00. > :18:06.starts with Sean perlt wee wheeling someone in and he says "here's
:18:06. > :18:11.Johnny .". It's the Shining. Never heard of it.
:18:11. > :18:21.It is famous with Jack Nicholson in it. It was crazy, the hotel, Red
:18:21. > :18:22.
:18:22. > :18:28.Rum, Red Rum, all that. So, it's got Jack? No, it's from
:18:28. > :18:33.the film... Your name Jack or John? APPLAUSE
:18:33. > :18:37.Well, when you are aware of the situation they are in, it is pretty
:18:37. > :18:41.black humour? It is a dark piece but with great performances --
:18:41. > :18:46.performances and a loft comedy in it, and a fabulous twist.
:18:46. > :18:52.With the heavy lines in EastEnders and producing the film it must have
:18:52. > :18:57.taken its toll on you? It was a killer schedule. It was ice cold,
:18:57. > :19:03.in a warehouse and it was night shoots. I was working on EastEnders,
:19:03. > :19:09.and then I would come home and we would take over. My hubby was there
:19:10. > :19:15.during the day and we just swapped over. Never again.
:19:15. > :19:21.Any more? This one goes out October 21st, there is another one coming
:19:21. > :19:31.up the ground soon. Well, Liverpool is the home of the
:19:31. > :19:31.
:19:31. > :19:38.Beatles and the song Ferry across the Mercy.
:19:38. > :19:43.Built in the mid-1800, the al Bert Dock was one of the biggest
:19:43. > :19:48.construction projects of its time. For a while it made Liverpool the
:19:49. > :19:54.epicentre for world trade. For a decade thousands of ships unloaded
:19:54. > :20:00.and loaded their cargo here, but it was not just official produce that
:20:00. > :20:05.came in here, there were stowaways too.
:20:05. > :20:13.This old industrial heartland was a home to many. The only way to look
:20:13. > :20:20.at this habitat is to get in the water and I'm not going in alone.
:20:20. > :20:26.# I'd like to be under the sea in an October tow puss' garden in the
:20:26. > :20:30.shade. # Here we are, ladies and gentlemen in the middle of the
:20:30. > :20:35.Albert Dock in Liverpool. Susan Gibson has lived in Liverpool for
:20:35. > :20:40.most of her life. She spends her days talking about the history of
:20:40. > :20:44.the Albert Dock. That is where Richard and Judy
:20:44. > :20:48.filmed This Morning. Although she works on top of the
:20:48. > :20:54.water, she's always cures about what lies below, especially as
:20:54. > :20:59.there is a piece of a Liverpool creature lurking in the depths.
:20:59. > :21:05.There are reports of a Conga eel down there. There is a funny story
:21:05. > :21:11.going around, everyone rearfs to it as the Dockness.
:21:11. > :21:18.So, this is your Loch Ness monster!? Yes.
:21:18. > :21:26.So, with special permission, in we Are you ready for this? Yes.
:21:26. > :21:30.Feeling warm? I've been warmer. It's going to be amazing.
:21:30. > :21:40.And it really is. Every structure under the water has become an
:21:40. > :21:47.
:21:47. > :21:54.I can't get over this, it is corped in mussels, it is about that fat at
:21:54. > :21:58.the bottom with all of the mussels and the sea creatures. You would
:21:58. > :22:04.think there is space for everything, but they are all crowded.
:22:04. > :22:10.It is not like they find a fresh space, it is more like there is one,
:22:10. > :22:15.I'll grow on top of that here. The water here is able to provide a
:22:15. > :22:19.hearty meal for all of the other creatures that live here.
:22:19. > :22:26.But there is one animal that Sue has seen year on year floating
:22:26. > :22:29.around the docks. There we go, it's a jellyfish. It
:22:29. > :22:39.won't sting. They don't sting.
:22:39. > :22:40.
:22:40. > :22:48.Oh! As the water's warm up during the summer months more and more
:22:48. > :22:53.jellyfish appear here in the docks. And I didn't think we would see
:22:53. > :22:59.anything better when we got a glimpse of Susan's dockness monitor
:23:00. > :23:04.sts. Well, OK, these -- monsters. Well, OK, these Conga eels are only
:23:04. > :23:09.about a metre-and-a-half long, but I never expected to see so many in
:23:09. > :23:14.the city. Those Conga eels were beautiful. The tails twisted around
:23:14. > :23:20.each other. Then suddenly in a minute they are off. They were
:23:20. > :23:25.gorgeous. Really beautiful. want to touch them, they are very
:23:25. > :23:31.silky looking. Beautiful. Normally, these eels live around
:23:31. > :23:35.the koist, but this artificial -- coast, but this artificial reef has
:23:35. > :23:41.attracted them here, providing great habitat food. What do you
:23:41. > :23:46.think, then? It's amazing. I'm lost for words. I could stay and look at
:23:46. > :23:51.it for hours. It is fantastic. I never expected to see so much
:23:51. > :23:56.variety of life in the heart of Liverpool. Species from all around
:23:56. > :24:00.the world co-habiting successfully in their little hideaway beneath
:24:00. > :24:06.the waves. What a little dive that was. I
:24:06. > :24:11.think we are all gobsmacked at that. Miranda, the docks will be full of
:24:11. > :24:16.people now? Please, don't throw yourselves off the docks at
:24:16. > :24:20.Liverpool tomorrow morning. You do need special permission.
:24:20. > :24:26.The eels we saw are well traveled? They are. They migrate to the
:24:26. > :24:30.middle of the Atlantic, they spawn once and I adults die and the
:24:30. > :24:35.juveniles manage to find their way back to our shores. What work have
:24:35. > :24:40.they been doing to turn it into the Great Barrier Reef? In the 80s,
:24:40. > :24:50.there was a massive amount of dredging, all of this horrible mud.
:24:50. > :24:55.For years they cleaned it up, opening up in 1987. The results are
:24:55. > :25:00.on the film. Nina, now, by accident really this
:25:00. > :25:04.has happened, but we're making a feature now every week of showing
:25:05. > :25:11.our guests snorkelling. Last week we had Dannii Minogue. Here she is,
:25:11. > :25:17.looking lovely. Today we have you, having a rather unusual time behind
:25:17. > :25:25.the tea pot. That was done for the marry curaway
:25:25. > :25:28.Cancer Research UK. It was an under water Mad Hatter's tea party. We
:25:28. > :25:35.had to learn to broth with the equipment.
:25:35. > :25:41.Were you eating? Yes, you had to eat. It was food made in space it
:25:41. > :25:51.was jelly tea, I tried to put it in my mouth, I think that it went into
:25:51. > :25:54.
:25:54. > :26:01.Charlize Theron's mouth! -- Louis Therougx's mouth.
:26:01. > :26:07.Now, Lucy Siegle has tried to meet the new monkey addition, but she
:26:07. > :26:13.had second thoughts. Bristol Zoo is the oldest
:26:13. > :26:20.provincial zoo in the whole world. I'm here to meet the baby gorilla
:26:20. > :26:24.with no name. Western lowland gorillas, Salomi gave birth on
:26:24. > :26:30.Tuesday, but the constitute ball of fluff you see her with has neither
:26:30. > :26:35.a name nor the sex. Why don't you know the sex of the
:26:35. > :26:39.baby yet? The mum is keeping her close to her chest. So when she is
:26:39. > :26:44.ready to let us have a look, then we will find out.
:26:45. > :26:48.But the baby needs a name? It needs to be a good one. Something of
:26:48. > :26:53.African origin, something that fits in with the rest of the group.
:26:53. > :27:01.Something that will not sound silly when I yell at her to come and get
:27:01. > :27:09.her breakfast in the morning. Stacey? Stacey?! You see, that
:27:09. > :27:16.could abboy or a girl. Bobby? Charlie.
:27:16. > :27:23.A unisex African name? I think that they should Google that one. Zola.
:27:23. > :27:27.That's a good one. So, we need a unisex name for a baby gorilla, it
:27:27. > :27:30.needs to be African in origin and something that the zookeeper will
:27:30. > :27:35.not be embarrassed to shout for years to come. Good luck.
:27:36. > :27:41.Well, we have the names coming in. Shall we keep the suspense coming
:27:41. > :27:46.in. Shall we ask Miranda about the western lowland gorillas? How rare
:27:46. > :27:51.are they? Fairly rare, 26 were born worldwide in captivity last year,
:27:51. > :27:55.but the incredible thing is that they could be extinct in the wild
:27:56. > :27:58.within ten years if the illegal logging continues. So this is our
:27:58. > :28:04.safety net, the captive breeding programme.
:28:04. > :28:09.So you can't enter the competition, but if you could, you would call it
:28:09. > :28:17.Special? Yes. Let's run through some names.
:28:17. > :28:23.Lindsey shepherd has sent in Kukenna, that means I love you.
:28:23. > :28:31.And Kara Spencer has sent in Mahiki that means friend.
:28:31. > :28:37.So, which one? You know that picture for me sounds and looks
:28:37. > :28:45.like I love you, so I will go for Kukenna.
:28:45. > :28:51.There it is. That's it.