:00:27. > :00:30.Hello and welcome to the One Show with a newly recovered Matt Baker.
:00:30. > :00:35.Tonight, Angela Ripon investigates the e-mail scammers who targeted
:00:35. > :00:39.her and her friends. We'll give a big hand to Kenny Everett and
:00:39. > :00:49.talking to his ex-wife and meeting Oliver who stars as Kenny in a
:00:49. > :00:56.brilliant new drama. We are joined by two music legends. One of them
:00:56. > :01:06.arrived earlier today in this. It's always hard to park this thing.
:01:06. > :01:06.
:01:06. > :01:16.Good job. Beautiful landing. Good job. He is the genius behind Mr
:01:16. > :01:17.
:01:17. > :01:22.Blue Sky, The Electric Light Orchestra's Jeff Lynne. Our other
:01:22. > :01:27.guest, he has a few fans in the audience. Can you spot them? It's
:01:27. > :01:37.difficult. I'm sure you've guessed it, it's the maestro of the musical,
:01:37. > :01:41.
:01:41. > :01:46.Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber. APPLAUSE
:01:46. > :01:50.We saw you last night with Gary Barlow and Gareth Malone and the
:01:50. > :01:55.military wives. Nice to hear it again. Was it a late night? It was
:01:55. > :01:59.because we did an aftershow party at home and a few of the artists
:01:59. > :02:04.did come around and we did sort of uncork the odd bottle and we did
:02:04. > :02:14.have a bit of fun, but it was great, because it's great to see so many
:02:14. > :02:18.young performers coming through. Nicola and Milos. I loved working
:02:18. > :02:25.with all of them, but I'm getting too old. What time did you fannish
:02:25. > :02:30.up this morning? What time is it now? About 2am. Were you all
:02:30. > :02:36.sitting around at yours? Sort of. Sometimes musicians make a bit of
:02:36. > :02:42.music and it's always good fun. missed out on a good night. Andrew,
:02:42. > :02:44.we have our own performance coming up later. Carrie is in Liverpool,
:02:44. > :02:52.hoping to inspire people who haven't played an instrument in
:02:52. > :02:56.years to pick them up again. If you've got a guitar, flute, cello,
:02:56. > :03:01.triangle flugelhorn or any other instrument, get it from the atic
:03:01. > :03:04.and take a picture of it and send it to us. As the Labour Party
:03:04. > :03:10.Conference draws to a close, it emerged yesterday that whilst David
:03:10. > :03:16.Cameron does it once a week, Ed Balls hasn't done it for ten years.
:03:16. > :03:18.We are talking datenight, treating a loved one to a night out, just
:03:18. > :03:23.the two. It seems Ed believes spending time home with the kids
:03:23. > :03:30.instead of taking out the wife makes his marriage stronger, but
:03:30. > :03:34.Anita doesn't agree. Ten years and are you having a right laugh?
:03:34. > :03:38.Whatever happened to keeping the flame alive? Are the people of
:03:38. > :03:43.Great Britain romantic or not? I'm going to find out and hopefully
:03:43. > :03:50.rerindle a few relationships -- rekindle a few relationships along
:03:50. > :03:56.the way. October, pick a night and say, "I'm going on a date ". Do you
:03:56. > :04:01.go on date nights? What are they? Not very often. I can't remember
:04:01. > :04:04.our last date. There we go. You have to stick to this. Lovely. Even
:04:05. > :04:11.though you've been married for 57 years, when was the last time the
:04:11. > :04:15.two of you went on a date? Last Saturday. Date night with your lady
:04:15. > :04:21.love, getting dressed up, romantic meal. Really nice evening or
:04:21. > :04:25.football in the pub with the lads? Football. Oh, come on! It would
:04:26. > :04:31.have to be a Friday or Saturday. you regular go on date nights? When
:04:31. > :04:35.was the last one? Saying that, I can't remember. 18 couples have
:04:35. > :04:44.officially committed to date night this month, so maybe romance isn't
:04:44. > :04:48.dead after all. Such a good idea. Do you have have one? You know,
:04:49. > :04:53.it's hard with young kids, that's the thing, because you have to
:04:53. > :04:57.arrange the babysitter. You have to make a point to go out. Andrew you
:04:57. > :05:05.were saying watching that romance is high on your agenda? Very high,
:05:05. > :05:08.because I'm taking my gorgeous wife away to majashing ka after the show
:05:08. > :05:13.-- Majorca tonight after the show. Sadly, the clubs are closed at this
:05:13. > :05:17.time of year. You know what we loving doing, is getting a chance,
:05:17. > :05:20.because it's not that often with life and she has a huge
:05:20. > :05:24.professional life breeding horses and all of that, but what we love
:05:24. > :05:34.doing is just going to a great restaurant and that's the best
:05:34. > :05:37.
:05:37. > :05:41.thing to do. Seeing a musical? maybe. Which musical would you
:05:41. > :05:48.suggest would be the most romantic of your musicals? It's so difficult
:05:48. > :05:54.with all the masks here, I have to say Phantom. I was hoping you would
:05:54. > :06:00.say what restaurant? What restaurant? I probably shouldn't
:06:00. > :06:03.plug anything. The cafe is very nice. Very romantic when I came in.
:06:03. > :06:07.Last week we launched a brand new part of the show, helping out
:06:07. > :06:11.anyone with a great local cause and Lucy kicked it off by finding
:06:11. > :06:15.volunteers to befriend elderly people in Cardiff and take them for
:06:15. > :06:19.a date sort of. We didn't think it would happen. Thank you to everyone
:06:19. > :06:24.who did come out and said they would give up their time. We had a
:06:24. > :06:28.lovely response. This week we are moving to Liverpool and Carrie has
:06:28. > :06:38.a musical challenge. With her help can the city's lapsed musicians
:06:38. > :06:41.
:06:41. > :06:48.rediscover their talent and love of music? Your challenge is to inspire
:06:48. > :06:56.those who haven't played a musical instrument in years. Those you
:06:56. > :07:01.inspire must be ready to perform as a band the ELO song Living Thing.
:07:01. > :07:05.You are joking, aren't you? John is a Liverpool cultural champion and
:07:05. > :07:09.the man I have to thank for this challenge. I came up with an idea
:07:09. > :07:13.to get the older generation back into playing the instrument that
:07:13. > :07:20.they loved when they were a kid and we can basically just discover the
:07:20. > :07:23.music we love when we first started playing. We'll be the new ELO,
:07:24. > :07:28.Extraordinary Liverpool Oldies. John, there's you and me and on
:07:28. > :07:33.this stage in 36 hours we have to have a band. Yeah. This is Eric's
:07:33. > :07:40.and Liverpool. We can well do it. Easy. Easy, I'm glad he's confident.
:07:40. > :07:44.I'll need the help of local radio to get the message out. Carrie
:07:44. > :07:51.Grant joins me live. Come down between two and five today to
:07:51. > :08:01.Liverpool One. I have a fine array of instruments. I just need someone
:08:01. > :08:06.
:08:06. > :08:09.to play them. The will's there, but the memory's gone. Are you around
:08:09. > :08:13.on Wednesday? I'm not around Wednesday night. I go to Portugal
:08:13. > :08:16.on holiday on Wednesday. With little success getting the right
:08:17. > :08:22.people to audition, I'm grateful for a bit of help from someone who
:08:22. > :08:32.heard me on the radio. How are you, kid? It's Ricky Tomlinson to the
:08:32. > :08:34.
:08:34. > :08:38.rescue. Can you play ELO? Who? My arst rse. -- cars.
:08:38. > :08:43.# I'm getting married to dear old Anne
:08:43. > :08:52.# She was a girl # And the only girl that he ever
:08:52. > :08:57.had... # Definitely a yes. It's up to you and it's a yes or a no.
:08:57. > :09:03.We have drawn a crowd, but we need the right demographic of people. Do
:09:03. > :09:08.you play a musical instrument at all? No. No. I used it play when I
:09:08. > :09:16.was a child. Yeah. What did you play? Piano. Would you be
:09:16. > :09:21.interested? No. Strawberry, blackberry, any berry, you like
:09:21. > :09:31.Chuck berry. Are you available? # When I was just a little girl
:09:31. > :09:35.
:09:35. > :09:42.# I asked my mother what shall I be... # Anybody else want to join
:09:42. > :09:48.# Whatever will be # The future's not ours to see... #
:09:48. > :09:51.I have no idea who will turn up. Introducing Karl, whose guitar has
:09:51. > :09:57.been in the wardrobe for 20 years. Jamie who hung up his eight years
:09:57. > :10:01.ago. And dreeia, who hasn't performed -- Andrea, who hasn't
:10:01. > :10:04.performed since the school quie and Paul who is blowing the flute for
:10:04. > :10:12.the first -- choir and Paul who is blowing the flute for the first
:10:12. > :10:18.time in 25 years. Derek and his two kids and Patrick whose guitar has
:10:18. > :10:21.been gathering dust for ten years. With a combined total of 115 years
:10:22. > :10:31.without performing and just four hours of practice, what on earth is
:10:32. > :10:36.
:10:36. > :10:39.this going to sound like? How are rehearsals going so far then?
:10:39. > :10:43.as you heard, I've literally had to scour the whole of Liverpool to
:10:43. > :10:53.find my supergroup, but I think I've managed it. As you saw, how
:10:53. > :10:53.
:10:53. > :10:57.long has it been, Karl? 20 years. How are you feeling? Nervous.
:10:57. > :11:01.Apparently this isn't your first time here? No, we played here over
:11:01. > :11:05.30 years ago. I worked out it's probably preinternet, so that shows
:11:05. > :11:12.you how long it was. You were in the resident band here? We used to
:11:12. > :11:16.play every Thursday night. Tell me where your guitar was 24 hours ago?
:11:16. > :11:22.It was in a dark recess of a cupboard behind the vacuum cleaner.
:11:22. > :11:28.Gathering dust, but not in the right place. Andrea, singing for me
:11:29. > :11:33.tonight. When did you last sing? years ago. Years ago. How are you
:11:33. > :11:38.feeling now? Really nervous. First live gig in years and it's in front
:11:39. > :11:43.of five million people. We'll see you later. Wow. That's quite a big
:11:43. > :11:49.ask, isn't it? It is. I used to play the French horn and I used to
:11:49. > :11:53.play the violin. When I was three I was on the cover of Nursery World.
:11:53. > :11:56.Luckily my violin I can't find and more luckily my French horn is
:11:56. > :12:00.nowhere to be discovered on the planet. I don't think I can really
:12:00. > :12:03.join in the club with great enthusiasm. We can't even tempt
:12:03. > :12:10.you? You know, I did think maybe when I was looking at that, I
:12:10. > :12:15.should try to find it again, but I'm not sure. I tell you one thing,
:12:15. > :12:19.when I was a kid, about 18, my father was very famous composer and
:12:19. > :12:23.I was asked to go and judge the school music competition. I had
:12:23. > :12:29.just written Joseph and all of that and he got it wrong, it was not me
:12:29. > :12:33.they wanted, they wanted my father, so suddenly I'm in front of these
:12:33. > :12:43.18-year-old schoolgirls all judging their music competition and I rang
:12:43. > :12:45.
:12:45. > :12:49.dad and I said what words should I use. He said words like ombusure.
:12:49. > :12:54.We'll move on to Jesus Christ Superstar. It's in Cardiff and then
:12:54. > :13:00.Birmingham. Yeah. Touring all over. We've added four more dates.
:13:00. > :13:05.Wembley and Manchester again now on Sunday. Fantastic. It's gone to
:13:05. > :13:09.arenas? No, no. What it was was a rock show and it was conceived as a
:13:09. > :13:13.rock album and in this country the album wasn't a big hit to start
:13:13. > :13:18.with. It went to America and it was a huge hit and then done in arenas
:13:18. > :13:25.around America and I've wanted to bring it back to Britain, 41 years
:13:25. > :13:29.later, and it's now in the arein thats. Last time -- arenas. Last
:13:29. > :13:34.time you were on you were talking about it. How has it turned out?
:13:34. > :13:37.More than I could have hoped. It's fantastic. Just seeing it. 12,000
:13:37. > :13:41.people in Manchester. They are all loving it. There must have been
:13:41. > :13:51.challenges that you come up against with the Biggar reign naz? Tricky
:13:51. > :13:52.
:13:52. > :13:57.spots? -- big arenas? Tricky spots? Sometimes the sound isn't quite
:13:57. > :14:00.right on the first night. Two or three nights in O2, fantastic. We
:14:00. > :14:05.were back there again and we are now in Wembley. Because you are
:14:05. > :14:10.hopping from one to another every other night. It's a great, new
:14:10. > :14:14.world to me, because unlike the one we did in America was literally
:14:14. > :14:17.touring, this is a full production and there are ten trucks and before
:14:17. > :14:21.you get off stage literally you have to get off quickly because
:14:21. > :14:25.there is someone taking it away before you get off it. It's great.
:14:25. > :14:32.We have got a fabulous cast. It's been great and a real rock band and
:14:32. > :14:37.it's live. That's the thing. It's not on track or a mimed show. This
:14:37. > :14:40.is it. 60 performers live. story is up-to-date and modern
:14:40. > :14:46.twists? We haven't changed anything to do with the musical or the
:14:46. > :14:49.lyrics or words, but it's staged as if it's today. I don't want to give
:14:49. > :14:53.away what happens when Chris Moyles, if you haven't seen it, comes on
:14:53. > :14:56.stage, but it's very much today and the whole thing is staged very much
:14:56. > :15:04.in the context of what is going on in the Far East and around the
:15:04. > :15:10.world. Speaking of Chris, he left Radio 1 and how is he getting on?
:15:10. > :15:15.He's found a rather good new nearby for himself. -- niche for himself.
:15:15. > :15:19.He's terrific and funny. It's our bit of luck that he has left Radio
:15:19. > :15:27.1, because he's able to give his all to this. He's great. We'll have
:15:27. > :15:31.to go and see it. You will. We'll come. Away from music, you are
:15:31. > :15:34.judging the Heritage Angel Awards? I was working with guys on
:15:34. > :15:39.Countryfile who were stone Masons who have made the shortlist. How
:15:39. > :15:42.did you get into that for those who haven't heard? Architecture is my
:15:42. > :15:47.great love and art and anything really to do with the arts in
:15:47. > :15:51.general, so I have the foundation from everything for young people
:15:51. > :15:56.coming into music and trying to plug the gaps with the funding gaps
:15:56. > :16:00.at the moment. We also, one of the things I'm passionate about is
:16:00. > :16:06.supporting people who have got the projects which never get recognised.
:16:06. > :16:10.It's the second year. Clare Balding is hosting it. It's about people
:16:10. > :16:15.who without any kind of Government funding, or just through
:16:15. > :16:19.communities restore a building of importance. It doesn't have to be a
:16:19. > :16:23.famous church, but an industrial building, or a station. It can be
:16:23. > :16:28.anything you like, but I just think it's important that we recognise
:16:28. > :16:38.people who are doing something off their own initiative and without
:16:38. > :16:43.
:16:43. > :16:46.We've all done it. Someone takes an unflattering photo of you and
:16:46. > :16:50.you've insisted they delete or destroy it. But what happens if
:16:50. > :16:53.someone paints a bad portrait of you and then unveils it to the
:16:53. > :16:55.Nation at the Houses of Parliament? How do you delete that? Well Gyles
:16:55. > :17:01.has discovered how one of Britian's greatest prime-ministers managed it.
:17:01. > :17:06.And Winston Churchill, conquering hero of World War II, with his own
:17:06. > :17:10.faltering bulldog spirit he led Britain's stand against tyranny.
:17:10. > :17:14.You can say never before in the history of the Prime Minister, has
:17:14. > :17:18.the country been so indebted to one man but towards the end of his
:17:18. > :17:24.career, was Dymchurch will became embroiled in a curious incident,
:17:24. > :17:29.one that was hushed up in high places -- Winston Churchill became.
:17:29. > :17:34.In 1954, parliament decided to honour Churchill for a portrait for
:17:34. > :17:39.his 80th birthday. The privilege of painting him went to Graham
:17:40. > :17:46.Sutherland, interviewed here at the time. He was a most considerate
:17:46. > :17:56.sitter but I sometimes had two minutes or sometimes an hour.
:17:56. > :17:56.
:17:56. > :18:00.is your method of working? In paint all the time? No, I do drawings of
:18:00. > :18:05.him. Those preliminary drawings are locked away at the National
:18:05. > :18:10.Portrait Gallery in London. He in this box there is the greatest
:18:10. > :18:16.surviving sketch for the final painting, done from life. It is an
:18:16. > :18:19.old man looking down on this rather intimidated younger artist. It is
:18:19. > :18:25.undeniably powerful but I don't think you would describe it as
:18:25. > :18:29.heroic. It is the picture of a wounded animal. You see all kinds
:18:29. > :18:35.of rubbings and abrasions, Graham Sutherland grappling with this
:18:35. > :18:39.image. This is the saviour of the Western world. Wouldn't you have
:18:39. > :18:48.expected him Crick -- to produce at painting that flattered? But he was
:18:48. > :18:57.a modern artist, he said "and paint as A-C". I ask you to accept this
:18:57. > :19:03.portrait. -- "I paint as I see it". The painting was unveiled, but
:19:03. > :19:10.Churchill seemed unimpressed. remarkable example of modern art.
:19:10. > :19:16.LAUGHTER. And here we have a mock up of the finished picture in
:19:16. > :19:21.colour. This is a portrait that the nation would have seemed. What was
:19:21. > :19:26.Churchill's view? He was absolutely appalled, he absolutely hated it.
:19:26. > :19:32.He said, it makes me look half- witted, which I ain't. He hated the
:19:32. > :19:36.way it made him look old. I think he was deeply wounded by it, and it
:19:36. > :19:46.was not how he saw himself, which was that Churchill that was loved
:19:46. > :19:46.
:19:46. > :19:50.by the nation and loved of a nation. What was his wife's reaction? --
:19:50. > :19:53.she was intrigued at the beginning but by the end she changed her tune
:19:53. > :19:56.and thought it portrayed him as a monster.
:19:57. > :20:02.There was an assumption that the portrait would hang at Westminster
:20:02. > :20:07.after his death, but it didn't. all becomes a bit mysterious and
:20:08. > :20:13.effectively, the pit to disappear, and nobody knew anything about it -
:20:13. > :20:18.- the picture disappeared. In 1978, Lady Churchill died and the truth
:20:18. > :20:23.emerged, which was that she had had the picture destroyed. She had
:20:23. > :20:28.given instructions for it to be taken out. One theory is that the
:20:28. > :20:34.picture was chopped up and burnt on the lawn at Chartwell. The other
:20:34. > :20:37.was that it met an equally grisly end in her boiler. You have got
:20:37. > :20:44.portraits by Graham Sutherland, obviously a very distinguished
:20:44. > :20:48.painter. What would the value of this had been? �100,000. It is like
:20:48. > :20:54.in the Antiques Roadshow! But it was burnt in the garden! We are
:20:54. > :21:00.talking many hundreds of thousands now, if not more than 1 million. It
:21:00. > :21:05.is artistic vandalism. That is how the artist saw it, he said it was
:21:05. > :21:11.vandalism and he was distraught. We have lost a vital link with one of
:21:11. > :21:16.the great statesmen of the age. seems that Graham Sutherland's
:21:16. > :21:19.painting was a very unwelcome gift, so who am I to bring it back from
:21:19. > :21:25.oblivion? Perhaps the best thing to do is what Winston Churchill
:21:25. > :21:30.himself would have wanted, which is to consign it to the dustbin of
:21:31. > :21:38.history. The portrait is a remarkable example of modern art.
:21:38. > :21:42.LAUGHTER. If that is what the saviour of the
:21:42. > :21:48.country from the Second World War wanted, that is what should happen!
:21:48. > :21:54.Can you put it in the dustbin of history? No. There are too many
:21:54. > :21:58.stories of great paintings. One was caught "Moses in the bulrushes". It
:21:58. > :22:04.was cat out of the frame and somebody bought it for the frame
:22:04. > :22:13.for 200 quid and it was thrown in a skip. The person it found it. It
:22:13. > :22:23.was unknown. It was sold in Sotheby's in New York two news ago
:22:23. > :22:30.for �38 million. No! A what would you have done with this picture?
:22:30. > :22:35.This is a portrait of George V by Charles Sims, 1873. He was a
:22:35. > :22:40.landscape painter and also a painter of portraits. This was done
:22:40. > :22:46.in 1924. Picking only Esat four times for it and he did it, he said
:22:46. > :22:53.it should be burnt -- picking only sacked four times for it. He has
:22:53. > :22:58.got better legs than me! That is the point! These are not his legs!
:22:58. > :23:03.The artist only got a few sessions so he concentrated on the face, and
:23:03. > :23:09.the legs belong to an art student! Charles Sims got one of his
:23:09. > :23:17.students to pose. Why was the keen posing with his legs like this?
:23:17. > :23:23.is the night of the Garter, he is showing off the garter... What he
:23:23. > :23:29.not auditioning for an Ivor Novello at? We do not know what happened to
:23:29. > :23:38.be portrayed. The artist sadly committed suicide himself in 1928.
:23:38. > :23:43.There is a new painting of the Queen. It is displayed in Canberra
:23:43. > :23:47.this week in Australia. What do you think? The artist did not get many
:23:47. > :23:53.sessions with her Majesty, and therefore he put it in Westminster
:23:53. > :23:59.Abbey. Do you like it? I think the idea of putting it in Westminster
:23:59. > :24:04.Abbey is extremely moving, the spot where she was crowned. And on that
:24:04. > :24:08.fantastic pavement, which they have just restored. I think it is rather
:24:08. > :24:18.striking. It is obviously not a modern painting. Have you been
:24:18. > :24:25.painted? Yes. Were you happy with it? Yes, I must say. Rolf Harris?!
:24:25. > :24:35.LAUGHTER. Rolf Harris is actually very good! I know. Have we got time
:24:35. > :24:36.
:24:36. > :24:41.for a quiz? No! Next time! OK. Give us one quickly. What is the origin
:24:41. > :24:46.of the expression blue-arsed fly? Prince Philip's first came up with
:24:46. > :24:51.it in 1970s. The Oxford English Dictionary want to know the origin
:24:51. > :24:58.of the phrase, it can't have been Prince Philip. I say Australia in
:24:58. > :25:06.the 1940s. What is your guests in one word? No. We need your help! If
:25:06. > :25:09.you have a clue of where that Now, a cautionary tale. You might
:25:09. > :25:12.think a consumer journalist would be the last person you would want
:25:12. > :25:16.to defraud but it seems even Angela Rippon isn't immune to scammers.
:25:16. > :25:23.They should know, you don't rip off Rippon and expect to get away with
:25:24. > :25:30.This message is coming to you... The hotel manager will not let us
:25:30. > :25:33.leave... We got mugged by gunmen in Madrid... Imagine your e-mail
:25:33. > :25:39.account and your name was being used by scammers to try to steal
:25:39. > :25:45.money from your friends. That is what happened to me in August, when
:25:45. > :25:50.everyone in my e-mail address book got a message saying I was in
:25:50. > :25:55.trouble and needed money. Nobody send any money. But not everybody
:25:55. > :26:02.is that lucky. Martin received an e-mail which appeared to be from
:26:02. > :26:09.his friend. He was immediately concerned and he rushed to her help.
:26:09. > :26:13.I saw this e-mail so I looked at it and it was an e-mail from Annette
:26:13. > :26:20.which said, unfortunately I have had to rush to Kuala Lumpur and I
:26:20. > :26:27.have been mugged and I need �1,500.20 secured a flight. And I
:26:27. > :26:34.believed it, yes. I got the money together -- �1,500 in order to
:26:34. > :26:38.secure a flight. Martin sent �1,500 but did not call a net because he
:26:38. > :26:43.thought she was in Kuala Lumpur without her phone. Two days later
:26:43. > :26:48.he discovered she had been at home all along. He tried to get the
:26:48. > :26:53.money back. But it was too late. the thousands of hoax e-mails sent
:26:53. > :26:58.every day, it only takes a small percentage to respond for the money
:26:58. > :27:03.to clock up to an estimated �1.4 billion that is lost to online
:27:03. > :27:08.scams in the UK every year. The question is what can you do if you
:27:08. > :27:14.are targeted by the hackers? Might e-mail was breached, and my
:27:14. > :27:19.internet provider helped me sort it out. David Slater worked on my case.
:27:19. > :27:24.It turns out I inadvertently helped them to obtain my password by
:27:24. > :27:30.responding to an e-mail I thought was from BT. They send phishing e-
:27:30. > :27:34.mails, fraudulent e-mails, asking you to respond to it and click on a
:27:34. > :27:41.link to look into your account. If you receive one, to not respond to
:27:41. > :27:45.it. A wish I had known that before. But that is how the scammers could
:27:45. > :27:51.ask my contacts for money. If you are someone who receives an e-mail
:27:51. > :27:56.like this, what should they do? not panic. Look at the e-mail and
:27:56. > :28:02.the format. Normally there will be spelling mistakes, the grammar will
:28:02. > :28:07.not be correct throughout, take the time to investigate rather than
:28:07. > :28:11.blindly sending money out. In the e-mail that my friends received,
:28:11. > :28:15.there was a telephone number to call for further information. I
:28:15. > :28:22.will phone it now have to see what happens and you might be on the end
:28:23. > :28:30.of the line. The number has a London dialling code. Hello?
:28:30. > :28:34.Hallowed? Discourse sounds like it is being redirected to a mobile --
:28:34. > :28:38.the phone calls salons. It could be anywhere!
:28:38. > :28:48.I have received an e-mail from somebody's saying they need help
:28:48. > :29:06.
:29:06. > :29:09.urgently. Where do I have to send I have caught the scamming in the
:29:09. > :29:14.act. How is he going to explain this?
:29:14. > :29:18.Can I tell you that I am with the BBC and I have been recording this
:29:18. > :29:23.phone-call. I believe you are trying to get money through a scam,
:29:23. > :29:28.that this person is not in trouble because this person is me, that you
:29:28. > :29:35.are a fraud start... He has put the phone down. Surprise
:29:35. > :29:40.surprise. The UK's crime unit has received more than 1,000 reports of
:29:40. > :29:44.scams like this so far this year. The police told Martin his loss was
:29:44. > :29:49.too insignificant to investigate and he never got his money back.
:29:50. > :29:57.What have you learnt from this? Never respond to an e-mail like
:29:57. > :30:02.that again. Basically I don't look at the computer at all! My wife
:30:02. > :30:06.just tells me where the e-mails off. Unfortunately, these scams will
:30:06. > :30:13.keep on coming and the scammers get more and more devious. It is up to
:30:13. > :30:16.all of us to be more alert, to be aware, and to beef up our security.
:30:16. > :30:21.That is certainly what I am going to do.
:30:21. > :30:24.Unfortunatley that type of email scam isn't the only one around.
:30:24. > :30:29.Let's go straight to the scam experts at Watchdog, where Chris
:30:29. > :30:34.Hollins is getting ready for tonight's show. Chris? Nice to see
:30:34. > :30:39.you. Who else is phishing? There is a long running scam where
:30:39. > :30:42.fraudsters claiming to be Revenue and Customs e-mailed to say you are
:30:42. > :30:47.due a tax refund and you should send over your bank details in
:30:47. > :30:52.order to claim. If you get an e- mail like Bass, ignore it. The
:30:52. > :30:56.taxman would never contact you like that. Scammers from the Student
:30:56. > :31:01.Loans Company, e-mailing you for personal information. A legitimate
:31:01. > :31:08.one would never do that. It is really easy to fall for it. It
:31:08. > :31:11.happened to me in the first week I worked for watchdog. Just be
:31:11. > :31:17.vigilant. It is extremely difficult to get your money back. What else
:31:17. > :31:22.is coming up on the show? We are going to ask what the record
:31:22. > :31:26.downpours means for the victims insurance wise. They are facing
:31:26. > :31:30.massive hikes in their premiums even though there is minimal chance
:31:30. > :31:37.of them getting flooded themselves. Chris that barely fill half the
:31:37. > :31:47.packet, and Odeon cinemas causing grief for fans. We will be on at
:31:47. > :31:54.
:31:54. > :31:58.Also tonight, on BBC Four, there's a fantastic new drama called Best
:31:58. > :32:04.Possible Taste: The Kenny Everett Story, all about the life of one of
:32:04. > :32:11.the craziest comedy geniuses this country has produced. Here is
:32:11. > :32:17.Oliver as Kenny Everett taking on some of his most memorable
:32:17. > :32:22.characters. Welcome kids to this spleen-venting drama of...
:32:22. > :32:28.Revealing information. Looking for an education. Out rageous
:32:28. > :32:31.entertainment. Sexy Hot Gossip. What a show. How when it can not be,
:32:31. > :32:40.the central character and the star of the show just happens toe me!
:32:40. > :32:45.APPLAUSE Here is Oliver and Kenny's ex-wife.
:32:45. > :32:49.Welcome to you both. Oliver, it's just incredible, the transformation.
:32:49. > :32:53.Thank you. How did you get under his skin? Well, it's a strange one,
:32:53. > :32:57.because when you are playing a real person it's different to building a
:32:57. > :33:01.character, so you are kind of getting to know an actual person
:33:01. > :33:04.and obviously you start off by looking at all the clips and
:33:04. > :33:11.listening to his interviews and with someone like Kenny you have
:33:11. > :33:14.the character to tackle, but the real thing was to find him, the
:33:14. > :33:21.Kenny - becausely throughout 90 minutes there are all the
:33:21. > :33:26.characters and a lot more of him being him so that's when meeting
:33:26. > :33:32.Lee came in handy. You were married to him for 12 years. 14 years.
:33:32. > :33:36.of people said that it was a sham of a marriage, but when you watch
:33:36. > :33:40.the fit many it's so clear actually that you were completely in love?
:33:40. > :33:45.Absolutely. We were blown away by it, but I think the trouble was I
:33:45. > :33:50.covered for him at the end. When he came out I stuck around to cover
:33:50. > :33:55.for him and so that's when the sham marriage came in. Was it quite hard,
:33:55. > :34:01.this process, or did you find it Kath that are tick? It was horrible.
:34:01. > :34:06.I went to watch him filming and I ended up being rushed into hospital
:34:06. > :34:10.in the middle of the night. My heart was going. It was all the
:34:10. > :34:18.emotion. Was that the scene then when Kenny and yourself get
:34:18. > :34:23.married? It was our wedding. It was John and my wedding, our wedding,
:34:23. > :34:28.but he was best man and they had this bit where they played on him
:34:28. > :34:33.looking very, very upset and I - it did for me. How did this call come
:34:33. > :34:38.about for you? Was it something that you were keen to do or did you
:34:38. > :34:42.have to be persuaded? I turned it down a lot in years passed, but I
:34:42. > :34:47.was approached about two years ago and I liked the idea of what they
:34:47. > :34:54.were doing and the people, so basically I went along with it
:34:54. > :35:01.completely. To me it's repairation to me. -- reparation. What sort of
:35:01. > :35:05.pressure did you feel, Oliver, with Lee there on set? There's different
:35:05. > :35:09.senses because there's a huge pressure from the public, who love
:35:09. > :35:12.him and with the show coming up tonight you've seen how many people
:35:12. > :35:16.have been talking about it, because there's such an affection for him
:35:16. > :35:21.in the public eye, I think. Also, meeting people like Lee and John
:35:21. > :35:26.and his agent, Joe, as well. Suddenly what you are doing becomes
:35:26. > :35:30.- it takes on a much different experience than a normal acting job
:35:30. > :35:34.and you are dealing with real people and their lives and someone
:35:34. > :35:41.who was so important to all the people in his life and it's very
:35:41. > :35:45.good, because it stops all the actory input. You can't be a diva.
:35:45. > :35:50.You have to get on and get it right, because it's so important to so
:35:50. > :36:00.many people. Let's see some real Everett mayhem and Andrew you may
:36:00. > :36:06.
:36:06. > :36:16.recognise somebody in this. Can you play the essential grace and noblt
:36:16. > :36:26.
:36:26. > :36:33.of the swan? -- know built of the swan? -- nobility of the swan?
:36:33. > :36:39.Cretin. No, no. APPLAUSE
:36:39. > :36:44.He still makes you laugh. Always. He was just funny off as well. That
:36:44. > :36:50.was that. Did that hurt mim? It looked to me as if it -- hurt him?
:36:50. > :37:00.It looked to me as if it did. Thank you very much for coming and both
:37:00. > :37:03.of you. Tonight 9pm on BBC Four. As Car, i -- cp arrie is up in
:37:03. > :37:11.Liverpool we have asked for loads of pictures. Andrew, will you read
:37:11. > :37:15.that one out? I hope they don't sound like Kenny. This is from
:37:16. > :37:24.Steve Bridge if Hampshire. "I dug out the old mandolin my grandad had
:37:24. > :37:27.and I would like to play it." He says old. If he wants to play it,
:37:27. > :37:35.there it is. He looks quite confused in the picture.S this
:37:35. > :37:40.Lizzie in Birmingham playing the flute. -- this was after 27 years.
:37:40. > :37:48.Emma from Manchester. She started guitar lessons today, even though
:37:48. > :37:54.she got it two years ago. There we are. Emily has found your violin.
:37:54. > :37:59.Oh, yes. It could well be. Soon we'll chat to the man who can no
:37:59. > :38:06.doubt play all of these, ELO's Jeff Lynne. Earlier this week he was
:38:06. > :38:09.find enough to leg Claire Grogan on his Blue Sky thinking. The year was
:38:09. > :38:14.1977, the king of rock'n'roll was dead and the Queen celebrated her
:38:14. > :38:19.Jubilee and a new wave of music had exploded on to the pop charts.
:38:19. > :38:27.Probably not the best time to release a double album of
:38:27. > :38:31.orchestrated rock, but then ELO, front -- fronted by Jeff Lynne were
:38:31. > :38:37.not followers of fashion. He was playing with The Move and armed
:38:37. > :38:41.with the desire to make their own brand of rock music with a
:38:41. > :38:47.classical sound, ELO was born. Then there was this cover. It's now
:38:47. > :38:54.covered to be one of the landmark albums of the 70s and stayed in the
:38:54. > :39:01.charts for a staggering 108 weeks. # Sun is shining in the sky... #
:39:01. > :39:10.The record's highlight was Concerto for a Rainy Day. The final song was
:39:10. > :39:15.the most recognised ever, my favourite Mr Blue Sky. How on earth
:39:15. > :39:21.did you write this genius song? record company wanted me to do a
:39:21. > :39:25.double album, which was to become Out of the Blue. I went to
:39:25. > :39:29.Switzerland to a little chalet. I was there for two weeks and it was
:39:29. > :39:35.miserable and cloudy and not very nice at all. I couldn't come up
:39:35. > :39:39.with anything, but one day I got up, opened the kaur contains and
:39:39. > :39:43.thought, -- curtains and thought, wow, this is where I am. Green
:39:43. > :39:49.mountains and vistas and blue sky and it was absolutely fabulous, sun
:39:49. > :39:53.shining and it inspired me to come with it. Right away I wrote it.
:39:53. > :40:01.you do it in one big creative burst? I wish I could say. I came
:40:01. > :40:04.up with the verse. I'll try to remember it now. Obviously I hadn't
:40:04. > :40:09.finished the tune yet. # Mr Blue Sky
:40:09. > :40:14.# Please tell us why # You had to hide away for so
:40:14. > :40:19.long... # Although it's the most recognised, it wasn't their most
:40:19. > :40:24.successful, only reaching number 35 in the US charts and six over here.
:40:24. > :40:28.But those chart positions haven't hindered the popularity. It's also
:40:28. > :40:33.become a major hit on social media channels on the net and one of the
:40:33. > :40:37.most covered songs by Joe Public and if you don't leave me, take a
:40:37. > :40:47.look. # Mr Blue sky.
:40:47. > :40:53.
:40:53. > :40:57.# You had to hide away for so long # So long... # It also reached a
:40:57. > :41:01.whole new world audience as it was featured as one of the highlights
:41:01. > :41:07.of this year's London 2012 Olympic ceremonies. There's a lot of
:41:07. > :41:13.elements to the song. Do you have a favourite bit? Have you heard of
:41:13. > :41:22.Sparky Magic Piano? No. It was on long wave. It's like a kid getting
:41:22. > :41:27.a piano lesson. I'm sitting on a piano stool. What do I do now?
:41:27. > :41:32.falls asleep and he dreams that the piano can speak. Was the decoder
:41:32. > :41:36.that did it. While I was making this somebody made a brand new
:41:36. > :41:42.coder and we got the prototype and we started messing with it all day
:41:42. > :41:52.and it sounded like it had asthma and there was an electric voice.
:41:52. > :42:00.
:42:00. > :42:08.Magic. Do it again for us. # Mr Blue Sky... # Can you just
:42:08. > :42:12.clarify that the very last bit of the coder everybody thinks it's
:42:12. > :42:19.blue sky? It actually says, please turn me over, because that was the
:42:19. > :42:29.end of that side of the album. one ever did. They just pressed
:42:29. > :42:37.
:42:37. > :42:44.repeat. Jeff Lynne is here. APPLAUSE
:42:44. > :42:48.They love you. Like Andrew revisiting Jesus Christ, revisited
:42:48. > :42:55.some old work and recorded them all again. Why did you choose to do
:42:55. > :43:00.that? Because every time I hear one on the radio, the old ones, I think
:43:00. > :43:06.it doesn't sound right and I think it was better than that. What I did
:43:06. > :43:10.was I attempted to do Mr Blue Sky again to make it a little more
:43:10. > :43:16.punchy and have more clarity and I'm a much better producer, because
:43:16. > :43:24.I've had 30 years more experience than I had then, so it was like I
:43:24. > :43:27.just had to do it. I was compelled to do it and I played it to my
:43:27. > :43:32.manager Craig and he said it sounded much better and he said do
:43:32. > :43:37.nothing one. I did Evil Woman and that sounded way better and
:43:37. > :43:39.punchier. It's in my own studio now so I have total control, which is
:43:39. > :43:44.something I like and total separation so I can regard it. I
:43:44. > :43:48.play all the instruments myself, which I love to do. How many and
:43:48. > :43:53.the range as well? It's not just strings, but the drums and guitars,
:43:53. > :43:57.the whole lot? Drums, base guitar, piano and guitar and backing vocals.
:43:57. > :44:03.All that stuff. But that's all the most fun you can ever have, because
:44:03. > :44:07.I love being in the studio doing that kind of thing. It's funny that
:44:07. > :44:11.you mention control there. In this brilliant documentary that is going
:44:11. > :44:19.on on BBC Four, lots of people say you were a bit of a control freak.
:44:19. > :44:28.Do you see that? I am in music. Not in real life. I'm very easy going
:44:28. > :44:32.actually. So there! Can rerelate to that, Andrew? Well, you see,
:44:32. > :44:38.funnily enough because I'm really a composer and not a performer I
:44:38. > :44:42.didn't want to change Superstar at all, because the actual way it was
:44:42. > :44:44.played I wanted to reproduce that exactly, although the production is
:44:44. > :44:48.different. But I understand, you are coming from a completely
:44:48. > :44:57.different way than I do. I just thought that's a piece I wrote when
:44:57. > :45:00.I was 21 years old. I want to leave it there. All I'm changing is the
:45:00. > :45:07.technical aspect. The facilities like you have now, for instance, 30
:45:07. > :45:13.years on, or 34 years on, is another great, big advantage for me
:45:13. > :45:23.as a record producer. I produced all the ELO records anyway, the old
:45:23. > :46:03.
:46:03. > :46:09.You have got another album out as well. Yes, it is called long-wave
:46:09. > :46:19.and I am more proud of this than anything I have ever done. Are they
:46:19. > :46:24.covers? No, I have done my own versions of these great songs,
:46:24. > :46:30.these beautiful old songs that I used to hear when I was a kick
:46:30. > :46:36.before I took up the guitar. I never knew how they went -- when I
:46:36. > :46:43.was a child. I had to dig deep. don't read music? You just play it
:46:43. > :46:48.by ear. It is much easier than reading music. There is a great bit
:46:48. > :46:58.in it documentary got all these little gaps where you can put your
:46:58. > :47:02.
:47:02. > :47:12.naughty bits him! Let's listen to # Have mercy #.
:47:12. > :47:13.
:47:13. > :47:23.# Have mercy on me #. # Have mercy #.
:47:23. > :47:25.
:47:25. > :47:33.# Have mercy on me #. Is it true that you can record in
:47:33. > :47:41.every room? Yes. I have a really big studio, which is almost as big
:47:41. > :47:46.as Abbey Road, which is fantastic. It is a very soft sound, it has a
:47:46. > :47:53.beautiful ambience. I love the Wagle furniture is arranged as well.
:47:53. > :47:58.Jeff, you have influenced many fans over the years. We have three here
:47:58. > :48:06.but only one of them have changed their name in your honour. Can you
:48:06. > :48:15.spot which one? Is it number one? am such a fan of ELO that in 1987 I
:48:15. > :48:23.changed my name to Jeff Lynne. such a fan, that last year I
:48:23. > :48:32.changed my name to Mr Blue Sky. What about number three? I am such
:48:32. > :48:41.a fan of below that in 1990, I changed my name to Eric Light
:48:41. > :48:51.Orchestra. I like that one! I would imagine it would be Mr Blue Sky.
:48:51. > :48:54.
:48:54. > :49:03.elite? Let's find out. -- really! It is Mr Blue Sky! Take your
:49:03. > :49:13.driving licence out just to prove it. Brilliant. We haven't got time
:49:13. > :49:23.for the police tell us why bit, but he has a Mrs blue-sky as well!
:49:23. > :49:24.
:49:25. > :49:29.Lovely! There is one butterfly that has eluded Mike Dilger for the last
:49:29. > :49:35.20 years. We sent him out to ticket office list.
:49:36. > :49:39.Some might call me a wildlife geek and I suppose it is true. My
:49:40. > :49:44.earliest childhood memory is catching small tortoiseshell
:49:44. > :49:51.butterflies in a net and when I was 25, my parents bought me this
:49:51. > :49:57.butterfly book. In it are Britain's 56 of England's mainland resident
:49:57. > :50:02.butterflies. I have seen 55 of them. The chequered skipper is the only
:50:02. > :50:09.one I have not seen. My mission is to track down that butterfly and
:50:09. > :50:18.complete the set. Even footage of them is elusive. The only shots we
:50:18. > :50:24.could find in the BBC archives were Now one of the rarest butterflies
:50:24. > :50:29.in Britain, this is not going to be an easy challenge. I am starting my
:50:29. > :50:38.hunt at Glasgow Museum, where I can see one but not quite in the way I
:50:39. > :50:44.This was collected from Peterborough in 1964. In the 1940s,
:50:44. > :50:49.the population started to decline and there were efforts made to
:50:49. > :50:53.conserve it but despite the best efforts, by 1976 it was no more in
:50:54. > :51:00.England. The entire British population of chequered skipper can
:51:00. > :51:08.now only be found within a 35 mile radius of Fort William in Scotland.
:51:08. > :51:12.This population was found in the 1940s by a lieutenant, who was
:51:12. > :51:19.stationed there during the Second World War. This area offers me the
:51:19. > :51:25.only chance of seeing one. Here, a team of conservationists are using
:51:25. > :51:29.Highland cattle to help save his butterfly. They are like cute
:51:29. > :51:33.lawnmowers. In the winter we have them in the lower part of the
:51:33. > :51:37.reserve and it is their trampoline a round and grazing that stops the
:51:37. > :51:41.trees and the vegetation is from getting established, which keeps
:51:41. > :51:45.the conditions suitable for the butterflies. I am here in the
:51:45. > :51:50.middle of the three-week period that they fly, but with a wingspan
:51:50. > :52:00.of three centimetres, they are difficult to spot. Then something
:52:00. > :52:00.
:52:00. > :52:06.The Green hair streak is it could find but not the one I am after
:52:06. > :52:12.today. It has been a really frustrating experience. It is just
:52:12. > :52:15.not hot enough for the butterfly to take to the wings. 30 miles to the
:52:16. > :52:23.south is another area, where the chequered skipper is said to be
:52:23. > :52:29.thriving. Glasgow nature reserve is jilted and has a south-facing slope,
:52:29. > :52:33.meaning it will be a bit warmer. There is something interesting
:52:33. > :52:38.about this location. The reason they are hanging on here is because
:52:38. > :52:43.of the overhead power lines. The strip beneath a pile on is clear
:52:43. > :52:48.that scrub and saplings to protect the overhead wires, producing a
:52:48. > :52:53.habitat perfect for the chequered skipper. Right time, right place,
:52:53. > :53:03.right weather. I have been waiting a long time to see this butterfly.
:53:03. > :53:12.
:53:12. > :53:16.Finally, I catch sight of what I But not for long. A tantalising
:53:16. > :53:21.glimpse! After 20 years of trying to see
:53:21. > :53:28.every mainland British butterfly, I was hoping for a better side in
:53:28. > :53:34.than that. But as the sun comes out, they start appearing all around me.
:53:34. > :53:43.It is my 56 the butterfly it and the last mainland species I need
:53:43. > :53:49.and it is about 12 inches in front With an average adult lifespan of
:53:49. > :53:56.just 10 days, and just a few short weeks, these exquisite butterflies
:53:56. > :54:06.will be gone for another year. I am delighted to eventually catch up
:54:06. > :54:16.
:54:16. > :54:23.with this butterfly. I am one very Have you ever seen him so happy?
:54:23. > :54:31.The lepidopterist needs a new project. I am starting work on a
:54:31. > :54:38.new musical. It is the story of Stephen Ward, who was the great
:54:38. > :54:44.society osteopath, and he was at the centre of the Profumo scandal,
:54:44. > :54:48.but in my view he was wrongly... He committed suicide before his
:54:48. > :54:54.conviction happened, but in my view he was the scapegoat for everything
:54:54. > :54:57.that was going on. I have not got it completely clear but it is a
:54:57. > :55:01.fascinating story and it is just the time when the Beatles were
:55:01. > :55:07.beginning and everything was changing. I find it quite
:55:07. > :55:13.intriguing. How long do you hope before it hits the theatre's?
:55:13. > :55:20.likely to be 18 months. Minimum. By the time you get that a vector and
:55:20. > :55:26.the designer and the story right. - - Get the director and the designer.
:55:26. > :55:34.You work with the Beatles in 1994? They were one of the biggest
:55:34. > :55:40.influences. When I went to do it, I went with George into the studio
:55:40. > :55:45.and there they were, Paul and Ringo, and they had not been in the same
:55:45. > :55:49.room for years and years, and so I get to witness all of their
:55:49. > :55:56.reminiscing, the most marvellous stories, from their mouths as well,
:55:56. > :56:01.and do real ones, not an edited and shut up or anything. We spent five
:56:01. > :56:05.hours doing that before we got round to doing anything else!
:56:05. > :56:10.Speaking of the Beatles, it is time to go back to Liverpool now to see
:56:10. > :56:20.how Carrie is getting on in her challenge to persuade people who
:56:20. > :56:20.
:56:20. > :56:25.have not picked up an instrument in years to have another go.
:56:25. > :56:30.We have got four hours to rehearse and I have to say, that is less
:56:30. > :56:35.than most professionals would get to rehearse. John, it was your
:56:35. > :56:45.ideas so how is it going? They have dusted off their instruments,
:56:45. > :56:58.
:56:58. > :57:08.giving it a go. Let's see how we # Sitting away on the crest of a
:57:08. > :57:09.
:57:09. > :57:19.wave, it's like magic # You, and you Swede desire #.
:57:19. > :57:19.
:57:19. > :57:29.# You took me #. # High and high you, baby #.
:57:29. > :57:29.
:57:29. > :57:39.# It is a Living Thing #. # It is a terrible thing to lose #.
:57:39. > :57:40.
:57:40. > :57:50.# It is eight giving thing #. # What a terrible thing to lose #.
:57:50. > :57:53.
:57:53. > :58:03.# I am taking a dive across the sky # It is a Living Thing #.
:58:03. > :58:03.
:58:03. > :58:07.APPLAUSE As the writer, drum roll. I thought it was great. It is a
:58:07. > :58:12.wonderful idea to get people to pick up their instruments again and
:58:12. > :58:19.that group was really good, and that the singer was great. One Mr
:58:19. > :58:26.Miliband is good. I only spotted one wrong chord. -- and it Carrie
:58:26. > :58:31.is good. We have inspired you to pick up
:58:31. > :58:38.your instruments again! John Eliot is taking up piano lessons again at
:58:38. > :58:48.64. Nice to see that. Next week we will be in Shaftesbury, trying to
:58:48. > :58:49.
:58:49. > :58:53.plot 60,000 snow drop box. That is all for tonight. Good luck, Andrew.