:00:27. > :00:31.We've got a stellar line-up tonight, as usual.
:00:32. > :00:38.because we have a question, don't we, from a member
:00:39. > :00:43.because we have a question, don't your name, where are you from? Laura
:00:44. > :00:59.being on the sofa? Funny you your name, where are you from? Laura
:01:00. > :01:09.big deal about discos, the your name, where are you from? Laura
:01:10. > :01:26.a big deal. your name, where are you from? Laura
:01:27. > :01:26.lot longer to go. I hear you. LAUGHTER
:01:27. > :01:45.I get LAUGHTER
:01:46. > :01:51.remember it was exciting being on telly. You look
:01:52. > :01:51.remember it was exciting being on Brothers. How did you end up in the
:01:52. > :01:58.studio? My Brothers. How did you end up in the
:01:59. > :02:04.worked at live and kicking, who represented
:02:05. > :02:04.worked at live and kicking, who questions and if your question was
:02:05. > :02:14.good questions and if your question was
:02:15. > :02:31.question two weeks later to Andrew questions and if your question was
:02:32. > :02:31.don't have to change the questions. Who
:02:32. > :02:41.don't have to change the questions. corpse with wind issues. Which we'll
:02:42. > :02:41.get corpse with wind issues. Which we'll
:02:42. > :02:48.how you would feel if you corpse with wind issues. Which we'll
:02:49. > :03:00.and not biological parents at corpse with wind issues. Which we'll
:03:01. > :03:07.Suzi Mann from the BBC Asian network. Good afternoon
:03:08. > :03:14.BBC... Three years ago I adopted my brother's son when he
:03:15. > :03:14.BBC... Three years ago I adopted my about him when he was ten months
:03:15. > :03:30.old. Prior to this about him when he was ten months
:03:31. > :03:38.son. Instinctively, I think way before meeting
:03:39. > :03:38.son. Instinctively, I think way like to do. I don't think he fully
:03:39. > :03:47.understands I'm like to do. I don't think he fully
:03:48. > :03:57.him that I didn't give birth to you, so
:03:58. > :04:05.him that I didn't give birth to you, that's where he was born.
:04:06. > :04:14.him that I didn't give birth to you, quite young. Then I moved
:04:15. > :04:33.him that I didn't give birth to you, simplifies everything for him.
:04:34. > :04:34.him that I didn't give birth to you, when she was five months old. Take
:04:35. > :04:40.me back when she was five months old. Take
:04:41. > :04:47.adopted. I was 17, it was my surrogate
:04:48. > :04:47.adopted. I was 17, it was my moments before the celebrations
:04:48. > :05:08.began. constantly being sick. I was taken
:05:09. > :05:17.aside by the Deputy teacher, constantly being sick. I was taken
:05:18. > :05:25.losing weight drastically. I said, I'm
:05:26. > :05:33.losing weight drastically. I said, found out you were adopted? I'd
:05:34. > :05:43.losing weight drastically. I said, heartache, there would be no
:05:44. > :05:51.imagine one day finding out that the two people I call
:05:52. > :05:51.imagine one day finding out that the think it would probably collapse the
:05:52. > :06:02.world around me. Not think it would probably collapse the
:06:03. > :06:09.hotel owner in the UK. I was born think it would probably collapse the
:06:10. > :06:14.bored because I was born My uncle and Andy adopted me. It was
:06:15. > :06:39.only at My uncle and Andy adopted me. It was
:06:40. > :06:54.away with anything. And here I was, my mum
:06:55. > :06:54.away with anything. And here I was, hate my Mum, I'm not allowed to do
:06:55. > :07:00.things. If I hate my Mum, I'm not allowed to do
:07:01. > :07:08.house. Because of going through the pain in
:07:09. > :07:08.house. Because of going through the having love from two mums and two
:07:09. > :07:14.dads, and highlight the difficulties of
:07:15. > :07:21.interfamily adoption, especially if highlight the difficulties of
:07:22. > :07:28.complex in the future, I'm so son. I remember it was one morning
:07:29. > :07:44.he was son. I remember it was one morning
:07:45. > :07:44.that moment. -- he son. I remember it was one morning
:07:45. > :07:52.and this is my son. morning exploring the topic further.
:07:53. > :08:06.A lot of morning exploring the topic further.
:08:07. > :08:06.to know how common it actually is? Indeed
:08:07. > :08:13.quantify it would be very difficult. So a lot of
:08:14. > :08:19.quantify it would be very difficult. quite common in the 70s and 80s. At
:08:20. > :08:35.family knowing that this child is adopted, now they are
:08:36. > :08:46.of those circumstances, was there a common thread
:08:47. > :08:52.of those circumstances, was there a why they were
:08:53. > :09:12.of those circumstances, was there a almost like passing
:09:13. > :09:12.of those circumstances, was there a achieve with the documentary going
:09:13. > :09:19.out tomorrow? achieve with the documentary going
:09:20. > :09:25.will resonate. The whole idea of Asian network
:09:26. > :09:32.will resonate. The whole idea of were discussing adoption and plucked
:09:33. > :09:38.will resonate. The whole idea of through e-mail from his brother
:09:39. > :09:38.will resonate. The whole idea of he's still coming to terms with it.
:09:39. > :09:53.Going back to the he's still coming to terms with it.
:09:54. > :10:00.kind of closure. We really hope. These
:10:01. > :10:00.kind of closure. We really hope. important. You discuss it at length
:10:01. > :10:09.in this documentary important. You discuss it at length
:10:10. > :10:17.Tomorrow morning at 11am. Daniel, we don't want to
:10:18. > :10:17.Tomorrow morning at 11am. Daniel, we is about Harry Potter if it's all
:10:18. > :10:28.right. Cast friend Hermione. Yes. Now we're
:10:29. > :10:37.going to friend Hermione. Yes. Now we're
:10:38. > :11:03.It does look like Emma Watson. friend Hermione. Yes. Now we're
:11:04. > :11:03.look like me necessarily. The films are
:11:04. > :11:09.look like me necessarily. The films vision of the world Daniel knows
:11:10. > :11:09.look like me necessarily. The films named Jim with an extraordinary
:11:10. > :11:12.talent named Jim with an extraordinary
:11:13. > :11:19.day a single phone call turned his life upside down. Jim Kay has been
:11:20. > :11:26.asked to reimagine a magical world, but not just any world, it's the
:11:27. > :11:29.world of Harry Potter. Thanks to the films we are all familiar with the
:11:30. > :11:35.look of JK Rowling's most famous creation. But for the past two years
:11:36. > :11:39.Jim has been reinventing the world of Harry Potter from scratch for a
:11:40. > :11:45.brand-new illustrated series of books. I hadn't done many children's
:11:46. > :11:49.books and the ones I had done work quite dark so I did a book called
:11:50. > :11:54.the monster calls, which was very dark, mostly black and white. I
:11:55. > :11:57.hadn't really drawn children before. So it was huge pressure. The first
:11:58. > :12:02.six months I didn't sleep well at all. I was thinking too much about
:12:03. > :12:06.what other people would think. The thing children have is that when
:12:07. > :12:09.they draw fantasy they just do it instinctively. When you're an adult
:12:10. > :12:16.you are second-guessing. There is a big sign above my door that says
:12:17. > :12:18.it's fantasy stupid. When I was drawing Hogwarts, it's not supposed
:12:19. > :12:23.to look like it stands up, it's supposed to be held up by magic. You
:12:24. > :12:29.have to try and remember what it was like as a child to just let your
:12:30. > :12:33.imagination run free. To help Jim visualise the inhabitants of this
:12:34. > :12:36.magical world, he bases the book's characters are real people,
:12:37. > :12:42.including its star, Harry Potter. My character for Harry I spotted on the
:12:43. > :12:46.train. He was just, he had something, I thought, I'd love to
:12:47. > :12:55.draw that, just striking, big eyes, unusual. So Lavinia rolled clay
:12:56. > :13:02.Caldwell became Harry. I'm reuniting them along with his mum, Alison, and
:13:03. > :13:06.adding a touch of magic. Lots of cake. You don't have to read it all,
:13:07. > :13:09.don't worry. How does it feel knowing you are the boy who has
:13:10. > :13:16.inspired how Harry Potter will look up quite a big deal, isn't it? Well,
:13:17. > :13:20.yeah, when I found out I went a bit crazy. Eventually when I was allowed
:13:21. > :13:24.to tell my friends none of them believe me, even when I showed
:13:25. > :13:28.pictures of it. They thought it was a bit bizarre really. It must be
:13:29. > :13:32.surreal to have Jim, up to you. Very surreal, somebody you don't know
:13:33. > :13:37.begins to talk to you. Very quickly. I knew I had two stops to chat to
:13:38. > :13:41.his mum and say, I'm an illustrator. I couldn't say what it was, all
:13:42. > :13:44.secret, would you be able to help me out on the project? How did the
:13:45. > :13:48.relationship developed for you to get what you need it? We meet, don't
:13:49. > :13:56.we, at once, twice a year? Around that. I ask if your model for me.
:13:57. > :14:04.That is his mum being a demented, strangling Clay. This is acting,
:14:05. > :14:08.Alison. Clay and his mum have never been to Jim's studio, so the one
:14:09. > :14:12.show has arranged for an exclusive preview of the next book in the
:14:13. > :14:19.series. Harry Potter and the chamber of secrets. You'll be the first
:14:20. > :14:27.person to see it. The detail is just... Incredible. That's .be.
:14:28. > :14:35.I was on the chair. Chair for a broomstick. Does it make you feel
:14:36. > :14:40.proud? Immensely proud, they are stunning pictures, stunning. It's
:14:41. > :14:44.something we'll keep and treasure. It can't be easy trying to reimagine
:14:45. > :14:51.a subject that has been so embedded in the public mind. But in his own
:14:52. > :14:55.unique style Jim Kay has managed to create the world of Harry Potter in
:14:56. > :15:00.a way that is both fitting and incredibly distinctive. For Potter
:15:01. > :15:10.fans like me it means there is a whole new world to explore. Let me
:15:11. > :15:14.get this right... Evanesco! Bewildered Harry Potter goes on and
:15:15. > :15:18.on. Let's talk about this new novel you've written, Graham. A novel,
:15:19. > :15:25.yes. APPLAUSE Why not? We were talking about
:15:26. > :15:30.adoption earlier on. Can I say, I feel that applause is justified. I
:15:31. > :15:36.wish you'd been in my office when I was typing "At end". Was it a real
:15:37. > :15:41.task is to mark honestly I loved doing it, I didn't know whether I
:15:42. > :15:44.would. I've always said I wanted to write a novel. I got to the age I
:15:45. > :15:50.thought, I need to stop talking and do it. I did worry, have I given
:15:51. > :15:55.myself the longest, harder stonework in the world? But, in fact, I loved
:15:56. > :15:58.it, I loved spending time in the location, it's set in Ireland, I
:15:59. > :16:03.loved spending time with the characters. And also it's not
:16:04. > :16:05.collaborative, there's no talking to people about what we're going to do.
:16:06. > :16:15.No, I'll tell you what's happening. I don't think I would like that all
:16:16. > :16:20.the time, but it was a break from my other jobs. It was a surprise,
:16:21. > :16:26.though, because this was very different from what you have done
:16:27. > :16:29.before. I think a lot of people would not imagine Graham Norton
:16:30. > :16:37.writing about this plot. Give us a flavour of the story. I always
:16:38. > :16:40.thought I would write a kind of urban, urbane, quite cynical and
:16:41. > :16:46.funny novel. In fact, what I have written is a sort of bittersweet
:16:47. > :16:53.romance, with a tone of melancholy. Quite traditional. Very traditional.
:16:54. > :16:58.There are some laughs along the way, and ultimately it is quite
:16:59. > :17:05.optimistic. But there is an air of sadness through it. Where did that
:17:06. > :17:08.come from? They say you should write about what you know, but I didn't
:17:09. > :17:13.want to be in this book. So there are no gay characters. It is not set
:17:14. > :17:16.in London and it is not about the media. My life is so peculiar that
:17:17. > :17:22.by the time I got back to something people could relate to that I knew,
:17:23. > :17:27.I was back in Ireland in the late 70s. That was the last time I had a
:17:28. > :17:35.life like that. That was why I ended up setting it there. And rural
:17:36. > :17:38.Ireland, every 100 yards, you pass a house and there is an extraordinary
:17:39. > :17:43.story associated with the people who live there. And Irish people love
:17:44. > :17:51.telling ghost stories. And they are not about people we love -- people
:17:52. > :17:54.love telling those stories. They are not about people you know, but you
:17:55. > :17:59.store them away and collect them. So lots of things that happen in this
:18:00. > :18:05.book are versions of stories I knew growing up. Without giving it away,
:18:06. > :18:09.the end is left open so that you could do a sequel with the main
:18:10. > :18:17.character. Did you enjoy the process enough to do a sequel? I enjoyed it
:18:18. > :18:20.enough to write another book. For me, that was just the end of the
:18:21. > :18:25.book. It was only afterwards that people said, is there going to be
:18:26. > :18:36.another? And that had not struck me. So I don't know. But if the people
:18:37. > :18:39.demand it... I will step up. What would you do next time to make it
:18:40. > :18:48.easier for yourself, or do differently? I just loved doing it.
:18:49. > :18:53.I would probably try and take more time off, rather than trying to
:18:54. > :18:57.squeeze it in. But of course, when you are busy, you get stuff done. I
:18:58. > :19:02.thought I would write this book at my holiday home in Ireland. No. I
:19:03. > :19:09.was just drunk leaning against a wall that. I got it written in
:19:10. > :19:12.London, where I am working. So I would have to be off and think,
:19:13. > :19:17.today is a book day. And I would look forward to doing that. Unlike
:19:18. > :19:22.an autobiography, you are competing with the big boys. You have had some
:19:23. > :19:27.good reviews, so we look forward to the next one. Thank you. It is a
:19:28. > :19:32.gentle crime story, but I hope people enjoy it. It is out on
:19:33. > :19:35.Thursday, and you can see Graham Norton in Graham Norton's show. We
:19:36. > :19:44.will give you a plug while you are here. On iPlayer, you can see the
:19:45. > :19:51.two of us together. Who are your guests? Now you're asking. Danny
:19:52. > :20:00.DeVito, John Bishop, Miranda Hart, Ewan McGregor and somebody else. Sam
:20:01. > :20:05.Neill. And Amber Riley singing. Time to get serious. If you believe the
:20:06. > :20:13.weather forecasters, this week could be your last chance before winter to
:20:14. > :20:19.get out and paint your garden fence. That is part of my weekend job list!
:20:20. > :20:27.Honestly. I have a shed to do and a climbing frame. An insight into
:20:28. > :20:37.Matt's world. Dom is on hand with some time-saving tips.
:20:38. > :20:43.Old fence panels. To find out if these products are better than a
:20:44. > :20:47.humble print, I have come to the royal botanic gardens in Edinburgh
:20:48. > :20:54.to meet defence expert Neil Baxter. Fences and sheds have to be
:20:55. > :20:58.preserved. Give me your opinion on these fence sprayers. The joy of
:20:59. > :21:02.them is that you get out, get the job done and you can sit down with a
:21:03. > :21:07.gin and tonic. I feel a One Show test coming on. We will be running
:21:08. > :21:16.the rule over paint sprayer is. The market leaders against two own
:21:17. > :21:21.brands from Wickes and B and Q. I'm not getting my mitts dirty, I have
:21:22. > :21:27.enlisted the help of some local professionals. Yes, a team of fake
:21:28. > :21:31.tan spraying beauticians from Edinburgh College. You are obviously
:21:32. > :21:37.used to getting deliberately giving punters a bronze once over. Before
:21:38. > :21:41.the team get to work, they will have to get to know how to use their new
:21:42. > :21:51.tools, which Irena seems to be struggling with. She has got the
:21:52. > :21:57.cheapest sprayer from B's Diall range. Megan is ready to go with the
:21:58. > :22:04.second most expensive sprayer from Cuprinol. While is getting more
:22:05. > :22:09.paint on the floor than in our most expensive gadget, the precision
:22:10. > :22:13.finish from Ronseal. And she has not even start this spring the fence
:22:14. > :22:16.yet. And Natalie are taking it all in her stride, as she will be
:22:17. > :22:21.keeping it simple with a paintbrush. Don't know what the big deal is. It
:22:22. > :22:31.has taken them 40 minutes just to load up with paint. Fake tanners,
:22:32. > :22:37.are you ready? US! Go! And they are off. Is this how you do your
:22:38. > :22:40.tanning? No. All four sprayers need pressure to get the paint from the
:22:41. > :22:46.pot to the fence, and Jenna is struggling with the settings. What
:22:47. > :22:50.is going on here? You are obviously on the wrong setting, because it is
:22:51. > :22:55.dribbling out. But not everyone is having paint problems. You are
:22:56. > :23:00.steaming ahead. And what about Natalie and her paintbrush? The
:23:01. > :23:07.least amount of preparation and the hardest amount of work. Just five
:23:08. > :23:15.minutes gone, and Emma, with the Ronseal sprayer, is finished. It was
:23:16. > :23:20.really easy to use. Megan is second with the two blaster. But it is
:23:21. > :23:25.tougher going for Jenna and the Wickes one can sprayer. It looks
:23:26. > :23:32.like melted chocolate. And I read finishes fourth with B's own
:23:33. > :23:36.brand. Look at the state of that! Looks like you have plastered it,
:23:37. > :23:41.not painted it. And as we approach the half-hour mark, lagging behind
:23:42. > :23:44.his Natalie with her paintbrush. But with one final stroke, she is done,
:23:45. > :23:50.and our five fence panels are covered. But look at these clogged
:23:51. > :23:54.nozzles. They have been bunged up by the wax and the paint. I know from
:23:55. > :23:57.experience with those sprayers that when you have finished with them,
:23:58. > :24:01.you have got to clean up the pipes, the nozzles, the tubes, basically
:24:02. > :24:05.the whole shebang. And that is another 20 minutes of work. In
:24:06. > :24:09.today's challenge, the quickest sprayer with the least splatter was
:24:10. > :24:16.the Ronseal precision finish, our most expensive gadget. But good luck
:24:17. > :24:20.cleaning that up. So with your shed and climbing frame in mind, are you
:24:21. > :24:29.going to do a paintbrush or are you going to buy a sprayer? 100%
:24:30. > :24:33.paintbrush. I am old school. And your new film is called Swiss Army
:24:34. > :24:42.Man. That's the best Segway I have heard! So this to us. It is quite a
:24:43. > :24:46.roll. I am intrigued to find out how they got you to do the movie.
:24:47. > :24:52.Everyone thinks I need to be convinced. I really didn't. It was
:24:53. > :24:56.an amazing script. Yes, a very weird script, but I have read lots of
:24:57. > :25:00.weird terrible scripts, and this was a great weird script. I basically
:25:01. > :25:04.play a magical dead body who starts, after a few minutes of the film,
:25:05. > :25:08.starts coming back to life, and he is discovered by Paul Dano's
:25:09. > :25:13.character, who is a hopeless lost soul wandering on a beach. And he
:25:14. > :25:18.finds my character and they go on a magical journey together. It sounds
:25:19. > :25:23.weird, but it is actually a beautiful story about two human
:25:24. > :25:36.beings, although one is quite dead. A small detail. Your special. -Ness,
:25:37. > :25:41.and that is why I need you to help me. Back in civilisation, there are
:25:42. > :25:44.7 billion other living people on the planet, just running around and
:25:45. > :25:49.blinking and breathing and eating, and you used to be one of them. You
:25:50. > :25:53.were probably just looking for happiness. This is what you look
:25:54. > :25:58.like when you're happy. We will look for someone to make you happy, a
:25:59. > :26:01.friend, a girlfriend or dog. Good boy. Sometimes, you might be lucky
:26:02. > :26:14.enough to bump into the one person you want to spend the rest of your
:26:15. > :26:18.life with, and that is love. You take a lot away from it afterwards,
:26:19. > :26:24.because teaching you about life and what is important. And it is a movie
:26:25. > :26:27.that is about joy. There are these two odd characters, but he is
:26:28. > :26:31.reminding this dead body of why life worth living, and in the pro-sex
:26:32. > :26:36.exploring the things that make us happy. It is a brilliant performance
:26:37. > :26:43.from both yourself and Paul Dano. To give him credit, he has to hump you
:26:44. > :26:47.around for the entire film. He said he has never been stronger than when
:26:48. > :26:52.he finished this film. I am not a particularly heavy person, but I am
:26:53. > :26:56.the weight of a human being and he was lucky me around. That was a line
:26:57. > :27:02.he improvised halfway through the film. There is a moment in the film
:27:03. > :27:06.where I am not supposed to be moving it, and you can see me slightly
:27:07. > :27:19.moved my head to avoid him seeing me laugh. It was a bit that was not in
:27:20. > :27:24.the script. Well, coaxing. Yes! A lot of things happen that are very
:27:25. > :27:29.amusing, and yet you can't even blink. No. I got very good at not
:27:30. > :27:33.blinking. There is also a fear because Paul is giving his amazing
:27:34. > :27:37.performance and I am just lying there, there is a sense of, if I
:27:38. > :27:42.even move a tiny bit, I have ruined his whole scene. So that fear kept
:27:43. > :27:46.you very still. In all seriousness, you do say this is the film you are
:27:47. > :27:54.most proud of, particularly one scene where you are on the bus. Yes,
:27:55. > :27:58.it is hard to explain, as the whole film is. But this scene, if I had to
:27:59. > :28:01.let go of every other scene I have ever been in, this is the most
:28:02. > :28:04.beautiful scene I have ever been part of. It is about five minutes
:28:05. > :28:11.long. And he is teaching me about music and singing and excitement.
:28:12. > :28:15.Paul's character is talking about life back home, and it is an
:28:16. > :28:20.extraordinary moment. And we get to sing on the soundtrack as well. Me
:28:21. > :28:30.and Paul provide a lot of the soundtrack. The soundtrack is
:28:31. > :28:33.amazing. It is us and Andy Hull from the band Manchester Orchestra. The
:28:34. > :28:40.bits that are impressive were not me. That is it for tonight. Thank
:28:41. > :28:45.you to our guests, Daniel Radcliffe and Graham Norton. Daniel's film
:28:46. > :28:50.Swiss Army Man is in cinemas now and Graham Norton's novel Holding is out
:28:51. > :28:54.on Thursday. Tomorrow, straight from the Starship Enterprise, we will be
:28:55. > :28:55.joined by Star Trek's Mr Sulu himself, George Takei. Good night,
:28:56. > :28:58.everybody.