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:00:18. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to the programme. Now, the last time tonight's guest

:00:26. > :00:30.was on the show, he spoke about his new film, which had a character who

:00:31. > :00:39.could go back in time. We wondered if he would like to live this moment

:00:40. > :00:50.again. That Notting Hill, that was so boring. Old and boring, yes. It

:00:51. > :01:00.was so boring please welcome Richard Curtis! Sorry to bring that back to

:01:01. > :01:05.haunt you. It is all right. It has richly lifted the standard of my

:01:06. > :01:11.work. She was a jam. But the good news is, Lillian could not be here

:01:12. > :01:17.tonight. That is good news, she is very well. The bad news is that she

:01:18. > :01:23.has reviewed your new DVD, About Time, and she will be telling us...

:01:24. > :01:30.So, we may not sell a single copy. It is quite comp entry. We have also

:01:31. > :01:32.got a brand-new twist on a game very close to your heart, one which

:01:33. > :01:40.features in your new film, table tennis. It is quite amazing. We may

:01:41. > :01:43.even entice you to have a little game later on. We will be speaking

:01:44. > :01:47.to Richard about his films tonight, and we want you to join in by

:01:48. > :01:55.sending in your own wee creations of some of Richard's most famous movie

:01:56. > :02:02.scenes. You could do a bridge, under the duvet. You could recreate a

:02:03. > :02:07.scene from Love Actually. Or you could get your kit off and stand

:02:08. > :02:14.outside your front door, like in Notting Hill. If you are one of

:02:15. > :02:19.life's Mr Beans, then just sending a picture of yourself. How many good

:02:20. > :02:29.friends would you say you have, Richard? Three? That is a good

:02:30. > :02:35.number. Or 33. Well, you do not need many. Because if you are on

:02:36. > :02:38.Facebook, you would probably have 100,000, and they would probably all

:02:39. > :02:45.be complete strangers. To mark the 10th birthday of the social

:02:46. > :02:49.networking site, Lucy has been to Amersham to try to make some friends

:02:50. > :02:55.the old-fashioned way. I think I am a pretty sociable person, but can I

:02:56. > :03:00.make ten new friends in one day? Are you interested? It depends what you

:03:01. > :03:08.offer. Do you think we can be friends? Actually, trying to make

:03:09. > :03:13.friends is quite difficult. What is the secret to long lasting

:03:14. > :03:17.friendship? Reliability. I have got a friend I see once a year, at

:03:18. > :03:22.Christmas, and that is it. But if ever I needed him, he is there.

:03:23. > :03:27.Could I make it into your friend network? I would help you out but

:03:28. > :03:37.not a friend. Do you think we could be friends? I think so. Thank you.

:03:38. > :03:46.Hi, guys. What is the secret of a long-lasting friendship? I think

:03:47. > :03:50.understanding each other, being a good listener and a great

:03:51. > :03:54.problem-solving. People you feel do not judge you, and you can trust

:03:55. > :03:58.them. What is the biggest thing you have done for a friend? My friend

:03:59. > :04:03.rang me up and really needed to somebody to speak to at midnight, so

:04:04. > :04:08.I headed off half way across town to go and see him by taxi. I guess your

:04:09. > :04:17.friends just come to you, really. Well, maybe to you!

:04:18. > :04:23.Letzgo Hunting asks some experts who understand the true value and

:04:24. > :04:28.importance of friendship, a group of ten-year-olds. What is the secret of

:04:29. > :04:33.friendship? I think they should have a good sense of humour and not take

:04:34. > :04:38.themselves too seriously. Not to blurt out secrets. Never to lie

:04:39. > :04:43.about things. If you go to your friend and you say, I have five

:04:44. > :04:47.dogs, but then they go round to your house and you only have a hamster,

:04:48. > :04:52.they will be thinking, where are the dogs? You are not the boss of them,

:04:53. > :04:55.they can do what they want as well as you do what you want. That is

:04:56. > :05:13.nice, so you give them some free will? Yes.

:05:14. > :05:23.Well, a very big thank you to everybody who became Lucy's friend.

:05:24. > :05:26.I counted 19. That was good. But there is a question about whether or

:05:27. > :05:31.not friends would be the right time. Some of them are good friends, some

:05:32. > :05:36.not so much. Thumbs up, or thumbs down, Richard, to Facebook? I think

:05:37. > :05:41.thumbs up. It is interesting, from the perspective of a writer, what do

:05:42. > :05:47.you think about social networking, communicating just by writing? Well,

:05:48. > :05:51.we do a lot of that in Bridget Jones, with absolutely disastrous

:05:52. > :05:54.effect. One of my friends told me the other day that it would be

:05:55. > :06:00.completely unacceptable to chuck someone except by text. The horror

:06:01. > :06:03.of breaking that news face-to-face would make it impossible for the

:06:04. > :06:08.person getting chucked. To do it by text is polite, recent, humane. What

:06:09. > :06:15.is the world coming to?! It is probably a good time to mention our

:06:16. > :06:19.own Facebook page. We are asking for your favourite facts, and then

:06:20. > :06:22.tomorrow, on the show, our team of boffins will tell you whether they

:06:23. > :06:28.are true or not. My favourite so far has to be from Martin, who asks, are

:06:29. > :06:33.ants really the only insect who stretch when they wake up? When has

:06:34. > :06:40.he seen that, that is the question?! How do you know when they

:06:41. > :06:44.are asleep? I am going to be asking every insect, and also asking the

:06:45. > :06:49.boffins tomorrow. As we saw earlier, Lillian was a bit critical of

:06:50. > :06:58.Notting Hill. This is a very nervous moment. Well, as Richard's film is

:06:59. > :07:02.about going back in time, we thought we would ask Lillian back, with her

:07:03. > :07:08.friends this time, from her film club, to review the new one. Thank

:07:09. > :07:15.God for the friends. It is called about About Time. Yes, Lillian is

:07:16. > :07:24.back. And she has brought some friends - Barbara, Frederick, Joan

:07:25. > :07:30.and Andrea. They are here to watch Richard's latest film. I thought

:07:31. > :07:38.this phone was old but suddenly it is my most valuable possession. I

:07:39. > :07:46.love your frock. And my hair? It is not too brown? I love Brown. The

:07:47. > :07:52.fringe is new. The fringe is perfect, it is the best bit. I have

:07:53. > :08:01.got this dodgy friend who is about to assault me! OK, I am coming. I

:08:02. > :08:09.hope I see you again. You will. It is time for the verdict. Parts of it

:08:10. > :08:12.were sad, parts of it were happy. It was one of those films where you are

:08:13. > :08:16.frightened to get up and go to make a cup of tea or go to the toilet in

:08:17. > :08:22.case you miss something. I was totally involved. I liked the ending

:08:23. > :08:28.because it was how we should live our lives. I think it deserves

:08:29. > :08:30.eight. I would give it ten. I would give it ten out of ten. That was a

:08:31. > :08:46.much better film than Notting Hill. Isn't that lovely?! The comedian in

:08:47. > :08:51.me was -- so hoping that when you cut to her, she was fast asleep.

:08:52. > :08:56.That would have been brilliant. She was emotional, actually, Lillian, I

:08:57. > :09:00.think she had had a bit of a cry. I am absolutely thrilled, eight out of

:09:01. > :09:03.ten, who was that they know that was very thrilling and very risky

:09:04. > :09:09.indeed. I am hoping if they had given two, you would not have shown

:09:10. > :09:14.it. The DVD About Time is out tomorrow. The main character goes

:09:15. > :09:18.back in time. You have said this is going to be the last film for you as

:09:19. > :09:23.a director, is that because it encapsulates everything that you

:09:24. > :09:28.want to say? Sort of. It is a big old job directing a film, it takes

:09:29. > :09:33.in the end about three years. The message of the film is to cherish

:09:34. > :09:36.every day of your life, try and enjoy the texture of it, enjoy your

:09:37. > :09:41.address and your shirt. While we were making the film, we were

:09:42. > :09:46.filming on a beach, and we thought, wouldn't it be nice the next time we

:09:47. > :09:49.were on a beach just to be walking along and chatting, instead of

:09:50. > :09:54.working? So I think I will try to obey the orders of the film and take

:09:55. > :09:57.life a bit easier. I watched it again on Saturday, and I would

:09:58. > :10:04.really want to know, where is the house in the film? It is so

:10:05. > :10:08.beautiful. It is in a place in Cornwall, and it really is

:10:09. > :10:12.absolutely gorgeous. We had an extraordinary summer. There was a

:10:13. > :10:16.cafe selling ice cream is at the bottom of the garden, and the actors

:10:17. > :10:21.were very rarely there when we needed them, because they would be

:10:22. > :10:26.sneaking off to get an ice cream. It is a brilliant film, Richard, I have

:10:27. > :10:29.already seen it three times. Has anybody tried to persuade you that

:10:30. > :10:34.it would be such a good idea if you just did one more, maybe? No, it is

:10:35. > :10:38.literally just you. If Lillian brings me and says one more film,

:10:39. > :10:45.then I might just change my mind. We can arrange that. Emma, your

:10:46. > :10:52.long-term partner, was associate producer, how does that work, as a

:10:53. > :10:55.relationship? I come to her very optimistically and give her pieces

:10:56. > :11:00.of paper, and she tells me that what is written on them is very bad, and

:11:01. > :11:04.I must try harder. She is there to encourage me and help me make the

:11:05. > :11:09.film I want to make, but also, when I fail, to make things better. She

:11:10. > :11:13.also rented a house next to the house where we were filming, and she

:11:14. > :11:17.would make cakes each day and bring them to try to cheer up the

:11:18. > :11:22.atmosphere on the set. The family in the film is the family everybody

:11:23. > :11:28.wants to but there is a quirky character, like in every family, in

:11:29. > :11:33.this one, called Kit Kat. Have you got a dysfunctional character in

:11:34. > :11:36.your own family? Well, do you know, it is funny, one of the characters

:11:37. > :11:41.are like a mixture. There is a bit of Emma, there is a bit of my

:11:42. > :11:45.daughter, a bit of my sister, a bit of my friend Helen. It is a strange

:11:46. > :11:52.thing, you kind of steel things from other people. The character played

:11:53. > :11:57.by Bill is my dad, but there is quite a bit of Bill as well. And

:11:58. > :12:01.bits of me as well. You are using the ingredients to make something

:12:02. > :12:05.new. It is almost like the perfect film. So many people are absolutely

:12:06. > :12:10.delighted by it. It gives you everything that you kind of want. JK

:12:11. > :12:16.Rowling has recently said that she followed her heart instead of her

:12:17. > :12:20.head, with Hermione marrying Ron Weasley. But would you have changed

:12:21. > :12:28.anything if you could go back in your work? I think nobody really

:12:29. > :12:35.wants to marry Hugh Grant. That is where you are so wrong! Don't you

:12:36. > :12:42.think?! No, I think he has got many redeeming features. I wish they had

:12:43. > :12:46.all live at the end of Blackadder. You have got lots of the same cast

:12:47. > :12:49.in your films, so what are they going to do now? We are going to go

:12:50. > :12:57.on walking holidays together. Brilliant! Well, About Time is out

:12:58. > :13:02.on DVD now. When you break a leg or an arm, you do not expect to be

:13:03. > :13:09.taken to a police station. But when it comes to a mental illness, some

:13:10. > :13:13.people can spend up to writer and poet Benjamin Zephaniah spent a day

:13:14. > :13:17.with West Midlands Police to witness a new way to deal with the problem.

:13:18. > :13:23.I am spending the day with West Midlands Police as they try out a

:13:24. > :13:26.new way of dealing with people with suspected mental health problems.

:13:27. > :13:31.The idea is to try where possible to avoid taking them I am Benjamin

:13:32. > :13:37.Zephaniah, and why do I care? Because one night, my cousin, who

:13:38. > :13:45.had mental health problems, ended up in a cell, and died. From the

:13:46. > :13:52.information we have received, there is a possible self harm threat as

:13:53. > :13:57.well. This is called street triage. When the call comes in, a police

:13:58. > :14:02.officer, paramedic and mental health nurse go to the scene together,

:14:03. > :14:05.which means that between them, they can decide on the spot the best

:14:06. > :14:10.place to take that person. This call is about a man who has been

:14:11. > :14:13.threatening to harm himself. I have been asked to wait outside while the

:14:14. > :14:20.officers go inside to assess the situation. For the first time,

:14:21. > :14:24.really, we have got the opportunity to have a mental health nurse

:14:25. > :14:26.accessing the mental health records, the police officer

:14:27. > :14:31.accessing the police records, and the paramedic accessing the

:14:32. > :14:34.ambulance data, so when we get there, we will be able to see the

:14:35. > :14:41.best way to deliver the right service for that person.

:14:42. > :14:49.At the scene, the Mall is no longer there. If he was having the episode

:14:50. > :14:56.earlier in the hospital, couldn't he be having it now in the Street?

:14:57. > :15:04.Intentionally, yes. You're not going out to arrest him? No. I chested in

:15:05. > :15:12.the scheme because my cousin died in custody. This was ten years ago. --

:15:13. > :15:17.I am interested. Dealing with people who are mentally ill is one of the

:15:18. > :15:24.hardest things you do as a police officer. One fifth of this force 's

:15:25. > :15:31.call outs are under the Mental Health Act. Under this act, a person

:15:32. > :15:39.can be detained in a police cell for up to 76 hours. Whether they have

:15:40. > :15:44.committed a crime or not. I just was absolutely terrified. I was tired,

:15:45. > :15:50.exhausted, distressed, and I ended up curled up on the floor sobbing

:15:51. > :15:56.for hours and hours. This is the voice of gene. We have changed her

:15:57. > :16:02.name. She has a history of mental health problems. She's been held

:16:03. > :16:07.five times in a police cell, once for 36 hours. I remember sitting in

:16:08. > :16:13.that cell thinking, what have I done wrong? Is it my fault I am unwell

:16:14. > :16:20.mentally? Last year, a government report called for a new approach,

:16:21. > :16:26.but figures show that in 2012 and 2013, it still happened to 8000

:16:27. > :16:30.people. This triage team can decide straightaway whether it makes more

:16:31. > :16:38.sense to take a person to hospital, and assessment centre or back home.

:16:39. > :16:44.A new call has come in. And 86-year-old lady who's in a police

:16:45. > :16:51.station, very distressed, foldable and confused. So hasn't she been

:16:52. > :16:58.arrested? No, she has just walked in. Do you want us to take you home

:16:59. > :17:04.today? Re/Max he said he wanted to take me in a motorcar or something.

:17:05. > :17:11.It is taking the surfaces in as soon as we can, rather than people being

:17:12. > :17:15.moved from one place to another. People have realised we need to

:17:16. > :17:22.invest a bit more time and effort to people who are vulnerable. Is this

:17:23. > :17:28.costing more money or saving money? Saving money. The triage team have

:17:29. > :17:34.been called back to the hospital. The man has returned. He is fearful

:17:35. > :17:38.that we are going to arrest him for something, which is not the case, so

:17:39. > :17:43.to get his cooperation, we will take a bit of a step back. If you could

:17:44. > :17:48.just let him know there is a police officer inside, but just one. But

:17:49. > :17:57.the team's efforts on this occasion are fruitless. The gentleman didn't

:17:58. > :18:02.want to talk to us. The man was assessed at a later date and found

:18:03. > :18:06.not to be mentally unwell. I hope this scheme works so that the right

:18:07. > :18:13.people get the right help at the right time. At long last, I'm glad

:18:14. > :18:18.to see something is being done. Thanks to Benjamin. Something is

:18:19. > :18:23.being done. Dr Mark Porter joins us now to talk about this. The pilot

:18:24. > :18:31.scheme has been tried out in other areas. Yes, it is one of eight. What

:18:32. > :18:40.are the results? The results in Cleveland are astonishment. When the

:18:41. > :18:45.teams went out, just 12 out of 371 people needed it. When the mental

:18:46. > :18:51.health nurse was not there, there were 224 people brought in. That

:18:52. > :18:56.shows the scale of it. We didn't see any examples in the film, but

:18:57. > :19:01.children are affected by Section 136 of the Mental Health Act. Yes, it is

:19:02. > :19:11.an issue across the spectrum. What else needs to be done? You have to

:19:12. > :19:15.point out the nature of mental illness. Some of these crises are

:19:16. > :19:18.always going to be played out in public. There are things we can do

:19:19. > :19:23.early. If we can help someone with oppression before they get to the

:19:24. > :19:31.stage where they are standing on a bridge, that can help. The MP Norman

:19:32. > :19:34.Lamb has put nearly half ?1 billion into improving access to

:19:35. > :19:39.psychological services. There's a lot of ground to make up. The

:19:40. > :19:44.perception still is that there's this gulf between physical and

:19:45. > :19:51.mental illness, and that mental -- that mental illnesses are less of a

:19:52. > :19:56.priority. It's always been a huge priority for Comic Relief. We have a

:19:57. > :20:01.project that is all about public attitudes. They say that one in four

:20:02. > :20:06.of us will experience some kind of mental illness. I certainly have.

:20:07. > :20:12.The more experiments that can be done and the more it can be taken

:20:13. > :20:17.out of the shadows, the better. And if less stigma is attached to those

:20:18. > :20:22.who have problems, we can help. It's difficult to know how you cope, if

:20:23. > :20:28.you are there. The attitude of the police reflects a lot of the

:20:29. > :20:32.attitudes in society. It would be unacceptable if someone who had

:20:33. > :20:36.epilepsy was taken to a police cell. But the cup axe in mental health

:20:37. > :20:44.provision must mean that there are more people on the streets who end

:20:45. > :20:48.up in police cells. Yes, in England there has been a 2% cuts in the last

:20:49. > :20:54.few years, and there wasn't much in there in the first place. Thank you

:20:55. > :20:58.for coming in. If you need more information on anything we have

:20:59. > :21:05.spoken about, just go to our website. Our next film is all about

:21:06. > :21:12.showbiz agents, sometimes called ten percenters. Although these days,

:21:13. > :21:18.some take a bigger cut than that! An agent from a real showbiz family has

:21:19. > :21:25.some trade secrets. Showbiz agents are the deal-makers

:21:26. > :21:28.of the entertainment industry. Behind every star there's someone

:21:29. > :21:33.navigating their career and pulling the strings. Like me, they operate

:21:34. > :21:38.out of the spotlight to find their clients work, manage the highs and

:21:39. > :21:44.lows of their careers, and ideally, make them millions before taking a

:21:45. > :21:49.cut. I make my living negotiating deals for top performers and

:21:50. > :21:54.broadcasters. I'm what's known in the business as a ten percenter. How

:21:55. > :22:01.important is an agent to an artist's career? And agent is vital.

:22:02. > :22:08.It controls the blood flow of the art. They are the ones who find the

:22:09. > :22:15.person to suggest to audition for a role. Showbiz runs in my family. My

:22:16. > :22:22.dad was an agent in the 40s and 50s, and my uncle launched Sunday Night

:22:23. > :22:27.at the London Palladium, one of the biggest shows on TV at the time.

:22:28. > :22:34.Anyone who was anyone was on their books. When you think of Leslie

:22:35. > :22:39.grade, and his agency, they were the pinnacle of everything that was show

:22:40. > :22:44.business in this country. One of the unsung legends of the agency

:22:45. > :22:48.business was Billy Marsh. He work with my family, and taught my

:22:49. > :22:55.brother, Michael Grade, the secrets of the trade. Billy had one

:22:56. > :23:01.expression. Do anything for them, but never put their coats on for

:23:02. > :23:05.them or carry their bags, because you end up being subservient. They

:23:06. > :23:15.need to respect you. It was Billy Marsh who got Bruce Forsyth his big

:23:16. > :23:19.break. I was at a dreadful agent before Billy. He had me signed for

:23:20. > :23:25.life like a servant you couldn't get rid of. It was bad. What kind of

:23:26. > :23:30.qualities do you look for in an agent? It is looking far ahead,

:23:31. > :23:36.looking at what is the best for you, is the money right... And should

:23:37. > :23:41.they go a bit further, to see if they can squeeze people a bit more

:23:42. > :23:46.for money. You do work up a personal relationship with them, which is

:23:47. > :23:56.very, very important. It's a bit like a double act. Yes, but I get

:23:57. > :24:00.all the laughs! Bruce and Billy's professional relationship. -- lasted

:24:01. > :24:05.until Billy's death in 1995, but such loyalty is rare in this

:24:06. > :24:10.business. There was more competition to keep a client, because if you

:24:11. > :24:14.have a bad run with a client, all the others are around dispensing

:24:15. > :24:22.what we used to call the unhappy pill in the dressing room. You would

:24:23. > :24:28.go into the dressing room and say, you must have seen your agent. And

:24:29. > :24:32.they say, I haven't seen my agent for three weeks. You keep slipping

:24:33. > :24:40.them the unhappy pill. And then you ring them, and say, have you thought

:24:41. > :24:45.of changing agent? My father had no need of the unhappy pill when he

:24:46. > :24:51.signed Palladium regular Cliff Richard in the early 60s. Every time

:24:52. > :24:57.I came here to see a show, I always think of your dad. The man who

:24:58. > :25:04.brought us here was your dad. Sometimes, you can feel like you are

:25:05. > :25:11.just in someone else's money machine. I never felt like that with

:25:12. > :25:15.him. Today, Cliff Richard mostly organises his own career, and

:25:16. > :25:21.recognises that things have changed since my father's day. I sometimes

:25:22. > :25:25.feel sorry for people coming out of the X Factor. Even the losers are

:25:26. > :25:30.good. But are they getting the support their way that your dad

:25:31. > :25:36.supported us? We had the best of times. I'm hoping it is all

:25:37. > :25:41.cyclical. Showbiz has changed dramatically since my father's era,

:25:42. > :25:46.but one thing will always be the same - behind every talent there

:25:47. > :25:51.will always be an agent, making deals and taking their 10%.

:25:52. > :26:01.What will we be without them? And Comic Relief wouldn't be the same

:26:02. > :26:06.without you. Comic Relief had an agent, and it wouldn't exist without

:26:07. > :26:13.him. I think there are some really fantastic agents around still.

:26:14. > :26:17.Earlier on, we asked you to recreate some iconic Richard Curtis film

:26:18. > :26:34.seems. Let's do Bridget Jones first of all. OK. He's gone all Bridget

:26:35. > :26:44.Jones on us! Nearly identical! Now the father and son. From Love

:26:45. > :26:57.Actually. Here is Nick and Nathan from Doncaster. It gets better.

:26:58. > :27:04.That's really cute. I hope he hasn't got love problems already. We asked

:27:05. > :27:12.for any natural Mr Beans to send photos in. His friends always tell

:27:13. > :27:19.his dad that he is a dead ringer for Mr Bean! We said earlier on that

:27:20. > :27:24.table tennis plays a big part in About Time. Come over here. Six

:27:25. > :27:33.people can play this game of table tennis, or even up to 12 people. I

:27:34. > :27:39.will slot in here. There we go. Grab that bat and join in. Richard, why

:27:40. > :27:44.is table tennis is such a big part of the film? I always used to play

:27:45. > :27:50.with my dad, and he always let me win, for 20 years! This is very

:27:51. > :27:58.similar to the normal table tennis game. You can have up to 20

:27:59. > :28:04.players. Watch the tower behind you! You can only do two shots, and then

:28:05. > :28:09.you have to swap over. Karim, I'm going to have a go at you. The idea

:28:10. > :28:15.is to get a table like this into every single primary school in the

:28:16. > :28:23.UK. Are the rules the same as normal table tennis? No, it's different. We

:28:24. > :28:28.haven't got time to go into it! Karim, this is like a massive orange

:28:29. > :28:34.segments. What happens if you go over the white line? Nothing, you

:28:35. > :28:43.carry on playing. You can only play to the same player twice. Come on.

:28:44. > :28:52.Which is, a family of six, this is perfect for you! That is it for

:28:53. > :28:59.today. A big thank you to Richard Curtis. About Time is out as DV --

:29:00. > :29:00.on DVD. Tomorrow we are going to be joined by Lee Mack and Wayne Sleep,

:29:01. > :29:18.so get your ballet shoes on! 'Let's bring you the news...'

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