:00:07. > :00:15.Tonight, Hollywood legends in the studio, we live at Aintree, learning
:00:16. > :00:16.facts about slinkies and Chris will spend a whole programme auditioning
:00:17. > :00:24.for Bruce's old job. I have no idea what she is talking
:00:25. > :00:45.about. Welcome to the Friday show at seven
:00:46. > :00:50.and motion Mark tonight 's guest is a woman who can do sexy even when it
:00:51. > :00:57.is just her voice doing the acting. You don't know how hard it is being
:00:58. > :01:02.a woman, looking the way I do. You don't know how hard it is being me,
:01:03. > :01:10.looking at a woman looking the way you do. I am not bad, I am just
:01:11. > :01:18.drawn that way. Oh, my goodness, what a voice, it is Kathleen Turner.
:01:19. > :01:26.Welcome to the show. How do make a cartoon character that sexy? Part of
:01:27. > :01:31.it was the lines, we found when we were finishing the drawing, we put
:01:32. > :01:42.in a lot of sighing, we got a lot of action, which people like. You
:01:43. > :01:50.should try that in the morning. Did you see the papers? The Pope gave a
:01:51. > :01:54.present to Prince George. I am not sure if it is the least dangerous
:01:55. > :02:04.toy for a child. It looks pretty lethal. The Vatican thought that is
:02:05. > :02:17.what a six-month-old would like. Did you have a favourite childhood toy?
:02:18. > :02:29.Did you have goals? Dolls? I used to rip their heads off. I was a tomboy.
:02:30. > :02:34.I love your voice. We want to know if you still have a toy from your
:02:35. > :02:37.childhood, it sent a picture in. Chris has got some new toys as well,
:02:38. > :02:44.you have been on the roof experimenting. I was going to drop
:02:45. > :02:50.them on Claudia Winkleman's head, my main rival for the job. Tomorrow
:02:51. > :02:53.half a billion people around the world will watch the Grand National
:02:54. > :03:00.from Aintree, 40 horses flying to win the first ever ?1 million prize
:03:01. > :03:14.for the race. That is just for first place, not the whole prize pot. We
:03:15. > :03:19.have got your ?2. This is the kind of hat we really did pass round the
:03:20. > :03:38.office. I have to tell you which one it is. I have got Battle Group. We
:03:39. > :03:46.can speak to network and last year's winner, Ryan Mania. It has to
:03:47. > :03:50.do my life upside down. Last year I wouldn't imagine I would be on the
:03:51. > :03:56.show. The whole year has been a complete thrill ride. I owe a lot of
:03:57. > :04:04.my life now to that horse on that day. How do you feel this year as
:04:05. > :04:08.opposed to last year? I am feeling about the same. Last year there was
:04:09. > :04:11.no pressure, I was a bit naive about the whole thing, I had never
:04:12. > :04:16.experienced it before. This year is kind of the same, I know what to
:04:17. > :04:22.expect. I am riding a different horse, the pressure is off. Tell us
:04:23. > :04:27.a bit about the ?1 million prize, it has got an amazing atmosphere, is it
:04:28. > :04:31.even greater this year? The difference between the race now and
:04:32. > :04:39.when we were growing up, every horse really has a chance, they frame the
:04:40. > :04:44.race differently, there are so many great stories potentially this year.
:04:45. > :04:48.We could get the first Welsh trained winner for over 100 years, the
:04:49. > :04:52.top-rated horse bids to become only the third teenage horse to win, and
:04:53. > :05:01.incredible horse, a consecutive years. And Zara Phillips has been
:05:02. > :05:05.instrumental in preparing a horse to jump fences like this, the chair,
:05:06. > :05:08.five foot two, the guys are doing a fantastic job still putting the
:05:09. > :05:15.finishing touches to this magnificent obstacle, a tremendous
:05:16. > :05:22.spectacle. I am not used to being on the One Show. Tell us about three
:05:23. > :05:30.horses to look out for and Kathleen's horse, Battle Group. The
:05:31. > :05:35.good news about her horse, he has won three times but not over these
:05:36. > :05:40.big fences, the smaller obstacles. He has had a tendency not to start
:05:41. > :05:46.his races, he is ridden by the youngest jockey in the race, Brendan
:05:47. > :05:50.Powell Junior, his dad one at in 1988. It is a good job he is young
:05:51. > :05:56.and fearless because Battle Group is not a horse for the faint-hearted.
:05:57. > :06:05.But I wish you well, Kathleen Fulton --. How are you going to bed
:06:06. > :06:09.tonight? I will not do very much, I need all the rest I can get. I will
:06:10. > :06:13.be tended to watch Alan Carr on Channel four.
:06:14. > :06:21.Thank you, and good luck. Thank you, both.
:06:22. > :06:38.Have a look at this. You are not going to be taking over
:06:39. > :06:46.from Brucey if you dance like that. This is what you need to know about
:06:47. > :06:53.dancing. I love dancing, I have got music in my blood and honey in my
:06:54. > :06:58.hips. Once I start I just can't stop stop if you are the kind of bloke
:06:59. > :07:04.you cannot bust the moves that turned the ladies wild, we sages
:07:05. > :07:11.have find -- we sages have found a way of turning you into the next Jon
:07:12. > :07:18.Travolta. One of the psychologists at Northumbria University filmed 19
:07:19. > :07:23.men dancing and created computerised avatars with their moves. He showed
:07:24. > :07:31.these anonymous figures to a female audience. They rated the dancing.
:07:32. > :07:36.They focus on the upper body. It is the movement of the upper body, the
:07:37. > :07:42.head, neck, shoulders, chest, the speed of the movements, how fast
:07:43. > :07:45.U-turn, how fast you bend. If you did a specific move once, and it
:07:46. > :07:51.worked, if you kept on doing that move, people would think this is a
:07:52. > :07:56.bit stereotypical, boring. We think the guys that are putting in all the
:07:57. > :08:00.variability, they are also showing off things like their confidence,
:08:01. > :08:05.intelligence, creativity, perhaps also their sense of humour. We have
:08:06. > :08:11.asked males and females to rate females. Good female dancing is all
:08:12. > :08:17.in the hips. It is a languid, not as jerky movements as the men. It is
:08:18. > :08:31.more fluid. Canada my skills to the test? We have the lab prepared all
:08:32. > :08:36.ready for you. There we go. While I wait for my avatar to be created and
:08:37. > :08:42.want to take my dancing shoes onto the streets of Newcastle. What are
:08:43. > :08:53.the elements that make a good dancer? Technique, posture. Not like
:08:54. > :09:05.that. Rhythm, a bit of Samba. Don't be too repetitive. No arm movements.
:09:06. > :09:14.If it is to van snippets you. Because it means the bloke might
:09:15. > :09:22.be? Better than you. Be confident, improvise. Back at the lab my
:09:23. > :09:25.dancing avatar is ready. I know I am good, the question is my
:09:26. > :09:35.scientifically and incredible dancer? This is me. I have put a bit
:09:36. > :09:40.of weight on. It is certainly relaxed, creative, it is fun. In
:09:41. > :09:45.terms of our study my guess is you would have scored pretty high, not
:09:46. > :09:52.the best, but pretty-stop almost the best.
:09:53. > :09:57.Whatever kind of dancing you do, whether or not you throw your hands
:09:58. > :10:02.in the air like you just don't care or shove them around doing a bit of
:10:03. > :10:07.dad dancing at the main thing is you are enjoying yourself and stop I
:10:08. > :10:13.know I do! I have got the music in my!
:10:14. > :10:31.That was a great film. Have you learned something? I think he should
:10:32. > :10:33.be my first ever Strictly. I am going to find new every time you
:10:34. > :11:00.said. Have a look at this. Recollections of that actual moment.
:11:01. > :11:03.I had such fun doing that film. I do all my incidents apart from swinging
:11:04. > :11:11.across the gorge. When we were dancing, the look on her face, the
:11:12. > :11:19.character's face, is not entirely acting. A lot of it is what is he
:11:20. > :11:25.doing? Michael thinks he is a wonderful dancer. He is not. All us
:11:26. > :11:32.men think we wonderful dancers and none of us. It gets worse, the Aldy
:11:33. > :11:40.you become. Did you tell him that? Yes. I am rather known for that. You
:11:41. > :11:46.are known for being romantically involved with him in one film, and
:11:47. > :11:53.then not another. It was always him and Danny DeVito and me. It was
:11:54. > :12:01.never just me and Michael. Danny makes himself known. I am going to
:12:02. > :12:07.discount him. In War of the roses he was directing as well, which was
:12:08. > :12:13.super. It is like being in your own club, it is safe and fun. It never
:12:14. > :12:21.got awkward because there is a mediator. You cannot split. Half the
:12:22. > :12:40.time I was a referee between those two. You are back in Dumb and Dumber
:12:41. > :12:43.To. IPlayer a woman the two men both think they had an affair with 20
:12:44. > :12:51.years ago, over they have never learnt what that is. You say it is
:12:52. > :12:58.the silliest movie you have been involved in. Somebody said, how do
:12:59. > :13:02.you describe your role? I couldn't call it being a straight man because
:13:03. > :13:11.it is not the kind of humour. I would say I was a representation of
:13:12. > :13:19.normality. The 20th anniversary with this film. And we will talk about
:13:20. > :13:23.your new play. All the action is around a piece of work by an
:13:24. > :13:28.American artist. Here is Giles finding out why a William Hogarth
:13:29. > :13:33.ended up gambling with one of his own paintings.
:13:34. > :13:39.William Hogarth is one of Britain's's most distinctive
:13:40. > :13:45.artists. He exposed life's grim reality with satirical images of
:13:46. > :13:50.gambling and alcoholism. This is the story of his scandalous painting,
:13:51. > :13:57.March of the guards to Finchley which mocks the Kings troops. He is
:13:58. > :14:01.famous for his obsession with the bleak side of life but he was a
:14:02. > :14:07.charitable man who wanted change, particularly for children. He was a
:14:08. > :14:13.governor of London's foundling Hospital, I have come to the museum
:14:14. > :14:16.which keeps its name alive. This is the site of the original hospital.
:14:17. > :14:21.In the 18th century what was it doing? It was providing refuge for
:14:22. > :14:25.babies that would otherwise be abandoned. Their mothers, families,
:14:26. > :14:28.the children were either illegitimate or the families were so
:14:29. > :14:32.poor they couldn't care for them. There was no welfare state, so for
:14:33. > :14:35.many of these mothers they had no option but to simply abandon their
:14:36. > :14:41.babies at church steps, on the pavement, or even on rubbish heaps.
:14:42. > :14:46.The hospital saved 100 children each year from certain death stop with
:14:47. > :14:51.others queueing to give up their babies, money was needed. He wanted
:14:52. > :15:03.to help and did so, with his controversial painting. So here it
:15:04. > :15:07.is. Extraordinary, and so rich in detail. Absolutely. And some of
:15:08. > :15:11.what's going on doesn't seem to me to al totally respectable. Yes, he
:15:12. > :15:16.is neglecting his duties as a sergeants. He is supposed to be
:15:17. > :15:22.guarding the colours but in fact he's groping this milkmaid. And he's
:15:23. > :15:29.lost the ballot here. Absolutely. He is completely drunk and is reaching
:15:30. > :15:38.out for gin from this cellar, as is the baby, who is also addicted to
:15:39. > :15:43.gin. This is Mother Douglas, a famous brothel keeper, who is
:15:44. > :15:49.praying that her clients come back safe and sound. Men, they are all
:15:50. > :15:54.the same! The scandalous painting was displayed in the hospital to
:15:55. > :15:58.draw in the public, who would hopefully make charitable donations.
:15:59. > :16:02.But how it came to be in the hospital's possession in the first
:16:03. > :16:07.place is a matter of some suspicion. Let's rewind a year. The painting
:16:08. > :16:13.was hugely popular and he made prints of it. He did, he came up
:16:14. > :16:18.with an incredibly ingenious idea that he would offer 2,000 of the
:16:19. > :16:22.prints for sale. For an extra 3 shillings you could be entered into
:16:23. > :16:28.a lottery to win the original painting itself. This is brilliant.
:16:29. > :16:33.A marketing wheeze. 2,000 lottery tickets printed, and this is one of
:16:34. > :16:39.them. This was good business for Hogarth. Absolutely. He would make a
:16:40. > :16:47.considerable amount of money. He was aware how you could set up a win-win
:16:48. > :16:52.situation. Hogarth sold 1,385 tickets. He gave the winner to the
:16:53. > :16:58.Foundling Hospital. So there were 2,000 tickets in all. There were.
:16:59. > :17:03.And the Foundling Hospital had just 157, representing a 1 in 13 chance
:17:04. > :17:08.of winning this wonderful picture here? Not brilliant odds. OK, but
:17:09. > :17:14.the odds are against you, madam. We are not cheating, I promise you.
:17:15. > :17:20.Congratulations! You've won the picture! That's fantastic. It was a
:17:21. > :17:26.win-win situation. Hogarth may have taken the equivalent of ?80,000 for
:17:27. > :17:30.himself, and the charity won a valuable asset. Whether Hogarth
:17:31. > :17:35.rigged the draw we'll never know. But his masterpiece hung in the
:17:36. > :17:41.Foundling Hospital for 250 years, helping raise money for the 25,000
:17:42. > :17:45.children who made it their home. Hogarth's view of society may have
:17:46. > :17:47.been grotesque at times, but his scathing painting helped make
:17:48. > :18:03.Britain just a little less ugly. Your new play is Bakersfield Mist,
:18:04. > :18:08.and it is about a piece of artwork that your character discovers. The
:18:09. > :18:17.character, Maude, she lives in a trailer park, like an ex-trucker and
:18:18. > :18:23.a bartender. A rough-hewn woman? A heavy drinker, heavy smoker. She
:18:24. > :18:28.prides herself on furnishing her life, her wardrobe and trailer from
:18:29. > :18:34.second hand thrift stores. As a joke she finds a painting in a thrift
:18:35. > :18:40.store and buys it for $3 to give to a friend as a joke. She thinks it's
:18:41. > :18:48.the ugliest thing she's ever seen. Then an art teach teacher sees it
:18:49. > :18:53.and says, "It's a Jackson Pollack." And she embarks on a journey of
:18:54. > :19:00.discovery to prove that it is. It's a two-hand play isn't it? Ian
:19:01. > :19:06.McDermott plays this ex-director of the Metropolitan Museum of Art,
:19:07. > :19:11.filled with his prejudices and presuppositions, distastefully has
:19:12. > :19:17.to visit her at the trailer park. It's a wonderful funny clash of
:19:18. > :19:24.backgrounds and education. And experience. Imagine these two coming
:19:25. > :19:28.together. It is just grand. They meet in the middle somewhere
:19:29. > :19:33.intellectually in their own way? Well, they learn from each other,
:19:34. > :19:37.let's put it that way. You've got a special birthday coming up, which
:19:38. > :19:44.will you be celebrating while you are here? I'm going to be 60. I only
:19:45. > :19:49.celebrate fives and zeros now. Very wise. I'm hoping to have a whole
:19:50. > :19:55.bunch of friends come over from the States to help me celebrate. You
:19:56. > :19:59.said to us during the film, I said where do you like to hang out, but
:20:00. > :20:07.there's not much hanging out when you do six months in the theatre.
:20:08. > :20:12.No, you do eight shows a week. You love it here, because you've been
:20:13. > :20:16.here a few times haven't you? I grew up here in part. This is my third
:20:17. > :20:21.season in the West End. And you send yourself roses? I do. I like roses
:20:22. > :20:26.in my dressing room. I have a Standing Order for two dozen a week.
:20:27. > :20:32.If somebody else doesn't send them, no matter. And if you do, it doesn't
:20:33. > :20:37.matter. Bakersfield Mist opens on 27th May in London and previews are
:20:38. > :20:42.from 10th. And now it's slinky time!
:20:43. > :20:46.Chris is going to try and play with this thing.
:20:47. > :20:54.CHEERING We have some professionals to show us how to do it properly.
:20:55. > :20:58.The One Show loves setting me record-breaking challenges. Last
:20:59. > :21:03.time it was to fold a single piece of paper in half more than 12 times.
:21:04. > :21:11.It might sound easy but we needed a roll of paper two miles long.
:21:12. > :21:18.Today's challenge involves one of these. The self-descending spiral
:21:19. > :21:22.toy, commonly known as the slinky. It is pretty likely you managed to
:21:23. > :21:27.get one of these to go down maybe half a dozen steps, but what's the
:21:28. > :21:31.maximum number you can do down? Is there a limit? And, more
:21:32. > :21:38.importantly, can we set a record for other people to challenge?
:21:39. > :21:42.Surprisingly in its 70 years there's never been an official record. But
:21:43. > :21:48.Guinness World Records have set us a minimum target. We need to get one
:21:49. > :21:54.of these to walk down 25 steps. How hard can that be? Well, to find
:21:55. > :22:00.erects I first need to understand how springs work. And to give me a
:22:01. > :22:06.hand is hue Hunt from the University of Cambridge. What actually is going
:22:07. > :22:11.on? How does it go from one step to the next? One of the key things with
:22:12. > :22:16.a shrinky is wave propagation. It is like a rubber band and you stretch
:22:17. > :22:21.it and you let go, it snaps back. On one of these big, floppy plastic
:22:22. > :22:27.ones you can see the waves quite well. These are waves of kinetic
:22:28. > :22:31.energy, which have been converted from potential energy. The crucial
:22:32. > :22:41.-- they are crucial to keeping the spring moving. To show me why he's
:22:42. > :22:49.set up a rather engenius experiment. We are going to put this spring
:22:50. > :22:54.through a bit of a work-out. It might look like just a bit of fun,
:22:55. > :23:00.but this treadmill allows us to study the motion of the wave this
:23:01. > :23:03.detail. As the spring moves it never completely recoils. The tail
:23:04. > :23:07.continues forward, thanks to momentum, and then gravity takes
:23:08. > :23:10.over, pulling it downwards. Crucially, the wave keeps
:23:11. > :23:18.travelling, so the whole cycle starts again and again and again...
:23:19. > :23:22.And this will in theory keep going indefinitely. But a treadmill is one
:23:23. > :23:28.thing. To set a world record, we've got to keep this wave travelling
:23:29. > :23:36.down a staircase. It's all a matter of size. This spring is too small
:23:37. > :23:44.and it never reaches the edge of the step. And this spring is too tall,
:23:45. > :23:48.so it runs out of oomph and never goes over the step. What you need to
:23:49. > :23:55.do is match your slinky to your staircase.
:23:56. > :24:03.I think we are getting there. Trouble is, we need to find a much
:24:04. > :24:10.longer staircase. Never-ending stairs? Sadly they are against the
:24:11. > :24:16.rules. Although this escalator has only 22 steps when it is static,
:24:17. > :24:21.Hhgh has engineered a few extras. Time, serious. We have with us the
:24:22. > :24:26.Guinness World Records adjudicator. Mark, tell us the rules. For this,
:24:27. > :24:31.the slinky must travel down the steps end over end under its own
:24:32. > :24:41.momentum with no assistance. Are you ready for this? I'm ready. Let's do
:24:42. > :24:43.it. Thanks to the calculations staircase works. But the spring
:24:44. > :25:03.seems to have a mind of its own. It is a lot harder than it looks.
:25:04. > :25:08.But, finally, we got 25 steps. And it kept going, 30 steps in a row,
:25:09. > :25:15.setting a new world record. Beat that if you can.
:25:16. > :25:31.Congratulations, mate. Dr Hugh Hunt is here with his
:25:32. > :25:34.certificate. A world record holder. I love slinkies, but earlier today
:25:35. > :25:38.Chris and I discovered something that I never knew about slinkies. We
:25:39. > :25:43.need you here specifically to explain the science behind it. Tell
:25:44. > :25:49.me what we're going to do. You are going to hold that slinky up, nice
:25:50. > :25:53.and still. If you just drop it... Did you see what happened? We saw
:25:54. > :25:59.what happened because we knew what to look for. Explain to the viewers.
:26:00. > :26:06.The bottom of that slinky didn't move. As it dropped, it compressed
:26:07. > :26:12.like this until it was all there and then it started moving. We filmed it
:26:13. > :26:14.earlier when I dropped it with a very special Phantom camera. It is
:26:15. > :26:32.quite incredible. It is amazing to see that. What is
:26:33. > :26:36.happening is that what we saw in that film just before, you get waves
:26:37. > :26:41.that propagate down. It takes a certain amount of time for the wave
:26:42. > :26:44.to get to the bottom. Just like a thunderclap takes time for the
:26:45. > :26:48.thunderclap or a tsunami it takes time for it to arrive, the bottom
:26:49. > :26:55.does not know that you've let go until the wave gets there. So seek
:26:56. > :27:06.we shally, show us how it works? You let go and this bit drops and this
:27:07. > :27:12.bit and this bit. The bottom doesn't know And it doesn't matter how high
:27:13. > :27:16.you do it? Chris had to go higher, five floors. There's nothing too
:27:17. > :27:35.complicated. I was on the fifth floor there. I
:27:36. > :27:39.could have got a nosebleed! It looks like it is defying gravity but
:27:40. > :27:45.that's not possible. It is not. This is gravity. You can kind of think
:27:46. > :27:57.that the centre of the spring is there. But if I let go... The apple
:27:58. > :28:03.and the spring... Galileo Galileo! And they can make brilliant sounds,
:28:04. > :28:08.which you are going to help Katherine to -- Kathleen to make.
:28:09. > :28:16.Amy has had Zippy for 30 years and took him to work this week. Abs in
:28:17. > :28:21.East London only had marbles. Brilliant toys. Andujar yet,
:28:22. > :28:28.46-year-old mum Kay with her Easter bunny toy. What about this noise?
:28:29. > :28:38.Waves are going down the metal and they are dispersive. High freaks sis
:28:39. > :28:45.travel fast and low one ones are slow. It sound like a light sabre.
:28:46. > :28:52.Thanks Dr Hugh and of course to Kathleen Turner. Bakersfield Mist
:28:53. > :28:57.opens at the theatre on 27th May. Good luck. Have a great Grand
:28:58. > :29:00.National weekend. See you soon. Keep betting.