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:00:28. > :00:32.There was that swing to the left, followed by that huge swing

:00:33. > :00:34.to the right, and then there was that enormous U-turn.

:00:35. > :00:43.At least nobody lost their seat - eh, Jeremy?

:00:44. > :00:46.Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Alex Jones.

:00:47. > :00:50.And for his first time on this side of the sofa -

:00:51. > :00:53.the only man we know who's mastered both the salsa and the swingometer -

:00:54. > :01:05.APPLAUSE Thank you, everybody. So lovely to

:01:06. > :01:06.have you here. We've waited such a long time.

:01:07. > :01:12.You've just been in Glasgow filming Eggheads.

:01:13. > :01:18.67 shows in two weeks, about five per day. Those quiz people who

:01:19. > :01:25.answer everything, you always want them to lose. What is the trickiest

:01:26. > :01:28.question of the season. The trickiest question we had, I think

:01:29. > :01:48.the best question, what's the name of the purple Tellytubby? Hang on...

:01:49. > :01:51.Tempo Mac? Tinky Winky. Correct. Two questions for you.

:01:52. > :01:53.Which singer with an animal-inspired name will be performing her

:01:54. > :02:04.What was Angellica holding earlier today that got her this reaction?

:02:05. > :02:11.I've just had my lunch! I'm sorry, I apologise. I can't answer that.

:02:12. > :02:14.We'll find out later on - but a little clue -

:02:15. > :02:15.it does relate to our guests tonight.

:02:16. > :02:18.They're two of the stars of the sensational drama that's

:02:19. > :02:20.managed to bring Russian romance to sunday nights.

:02:21. > :02:22.From War And Peace, it's Princess Marya and Sonya,

:02:23. > :02:27.aka Jessie Buckley and Aisling Loftus!

:02:28. > :02:36.APPLAUSE The Other

:02:37. > :02:45.I don't normally get starch starstruck, but I am a bit tonight.

:02:46. > :02:49.I've been watching this series and these episodes have been insanely

:02:50. > :02:58.popular. Is the popularity a big shock to you? No. Good answer. I

:02:59. > :03:02.think it's really great. I was a big fan, did not want to watch it in

:03:03. > :03:13.advance or I've been watching it on a Sunday, and I've just been crying.

:03:14. > :03:19.Not just at myself, but with Paul Dano, when he tumbles away with the

:03:20. > :03:24.bomb, you know. I love it. I suppose it's because you haven't seen the

:03:25. > :03:32.battle scenes. We just did piece, they did war. Very powerful. We will

:03:33. > :03:34.talk all about it throughout the show tonight.

:03:35. > :03:38.News this week that our roads could soon start to look very

:03:39. > :03:39.different indeed - as research suggests that removing

:03:40. > :03:41.the white lines would make us drive more slowly.

:03:42. > :03:44.Good news for road safety - bad news for the men who make

:03:45. > :03:53.But just who are these middle-of-the-road artists, anyway?

:03:54. > :04:00.They cover thousands of miles of road every day, helping is get from

:04:01. > :04:06.a to B and keep the traffic flowing. They are the heroes of the highway,

:04:07. > :04:12.the white linemen. Dan and his apprentice, Dan, or the double Ds,

:04:13. > :04:14.the white linemen. Dan and his as they are known in the job, set

:04:15. > :04:26.How long have you been aligned off their

:04:27. > :04:35.How long have you been aligned painter for? Six years. What were

:04:36. > :04:38.you doing before that? Bricklaying, but the building trade went

:04:39. > :04:41.downhill. I had some friends who did this job, they told me about it and

:04:42. > :04:46.it looked interesting. Still get satisfaction of a good job at the

:04:47. > :04:51.end of it. Not a lot of variety, walking forward and painting lines.

:04:52. > :04:55.Have I got that wrong? Yeah, there is a skill to it and it's quite

:04:56. > :04:59.artistic. You have different designs and features. When you are doing

:05:00. > :05:05.this, what are you thinking about? what I will have for dinner!

:05:06. > :05:09.Wondering what the wife is up to. Are you happy to be out there on the

:05:10. > :05:13.road? It can be quite dangerous. You don't always have the Road closed,

:05:14. > :05:19.so you think, am I going home tonight? It dries in second, what's

:05:20. > :05:26.the worst that can happen? Spelling something wrong. In my second year

:05:27. > :05:32.working here we spells entry wrong twice in a row. Did you get a lot of

:05:33. > :05:39.stick? I kept it quiet, didn't tell anybody. You sneakily went back and

:05:40. > :05:41.changed it around so it was spelt correctly? You got away with it?

:05:42. > :05:48.Yeah, I got away correctly? You got away with it?

:05:49. > :05:52.people don't see this hard work. It's quite technical, you don't

:05:53. > :05:54.people don't see this hard work. what's behind you all coming

:05:55. > :05:57.forward. It's a job you are quite passionate about, but if they

:05:58. > :06:01.decided to take away the white lines, you could be out of work.

:06:02. > :06:04.They are there for safety reasons. You need the white lines to see

:06:05. > :06:10.where you are going, how fast the roads are. It would be crazy to get

:06:11. > :06:13.rid of them. I enjoy it, job satisfaction at the end of the day.

:06:14. > :06:16.rid of them. I enjoy it, job You are driving around at the

:06:17. > :06:29.weekend with your friend or partner, and you think, I did that!

:06:30. > :06:35.I was watching that and thinking, Jessie, that's about as far away

:06:36. > :06:40.from a job as an actor as you can get. I've actually done that!

:06:41. > :06:45.LAUGHTER In my spare time I like to paint

:06:46. > :06:50.white lines. It's quite artistic and creative.

:06:51. > :06:53.The final episode of War and Peace is on Sunday -

:06:54. > :06:56.before we speak to Jessie and Aisling, let's remind ourselves

:06:57. > :07:10.A line each on your characters. Jessie first. I played Princess

:07:11. > :07:17.Marya, the daughter of the prints, and she's in quite an impressive

:07:18. > :07:21.relationship with her father, played by Jim Broadbent. As the story

:07:22. > :07:24.progresses, she goes to ups and downs but finds strength and

:07:25. > :07:32.happiness towards the end. Don't give it away! I play Sonya, and

:07:33. > :07:46.she's the poor cousin who lives within the family, and she's madly

:07:47. > :07:51.in love with her cousin, Nikolai. In the last episode, Nikolai makes

:07:52. > :07:55.contact with Marya and we have a hint of a love triangle. I'm not

:07:56. > :07:59.going to spoil it, it's always the man who makes the trouble! It's

:08:00. > :08:07.going to get exciting. Maybe I should go like this. Everybody

:08:08. > :08:09.should watch to see how it unfolds. Let's see where we are in terms of

:08:10. > :08:17.that love triangle. I will never give you up, ever. We

:08:18. > :08:23.will be married to no matter what anybody says. I'm not in a position

:08:24. > :08:30.to promise you anything. I don't ask you to. I think you should consider

:08:31. > :08:37.his proposal. I'm in love with Sonya and I want us to be married. I love

:08:38. > :08:43.her. It's strange things turn out

:08:44. > :08:48.sometimes, isn't it? Yes, it is. STUDIO: Yellow like it's too late,

:08:49. > :08:52.Leo Tolstoy has written it, but I don't think either of you should

:08:53. > :08:59.trust Nikolai, I think he's winding you both up. Our Sonya and a rear

:09:00. > :09:09.set to collide? We can't tell you. -- and Marya. Jessie, when I see it,

:09:10. > :09:15.you are often crying in it. I know that on set they call you Tears On

:09:16. > :09:20.Tap. I would like to point out that I was one of the happiest people on

:09:21. > :09:29.set. I go from bursting out laughing to crying. That's what the job

:09:30. > :09:38.description requires. Do all actors have to be at to cry at I've seen

:09:39. > :09:44.how some people get themselves to cry. They get out the vapour rub and

:09:45. > :09:48.things like that. When you see somebody do that, you think, you are

:09:49. > :09:53.not proper, you are phoning it in. You didn't go to drama school, did

:09:54. > :10:00.you? I suppose it's all about, something like War and Peace, and we

:10:01. > :10:04.had Lily James and James on before Christmas, and they talked about the

:10:05. > :10:08.job of reading this epic book. It's all about feeling it, and that's how

:10:09. > :10:15.you can get into the characters. Did you both get to the end of it? Of

:10:16. > :10:24.the book? I've tried three times and failed. Did you read it? Yeah, I

:10:25. > :10:31.did. It's like in school, yeah, yeah. I listened to some of it on an

:10:32. > :10:36.audio book. I got to Russia and thought, I haven't finished it. So I

:10:37. > :10:44.put it on double-time, double speed on an audio book. So I got through

:10:45. > :10:51.the battles and stuff. Was everybody speaking in a Donald Duck voice? It

:10:52. > :10:54.was a comic kind of twist to it. We look forward to the final episodes

:10:55. > :10:57.on Sunday and it's been a joy to watch.

:10:58. > :10:59.So, Princess Marya and Sonya's worlds are set to collide

:11:00. > :11:06.Here's Gyles with the story of a donkey who had his day in court

:11:07. > :11:07.and sparked an animal rights revolution.

:11:08. > :11:17.This is the story of how one man not only made legal history by producing

:11:18. > :11:24.a donkey as a witness in a British court, but was also the founder of

:11:25. > :11:28.animal rights. In the early 1800 's, cruelty to animals was a common,

:11:29. > :11:33.everyday occurrence, especially among London traders, who were

:11:34. > :11:38.notorious for mistreating horses and donkeys. That was until an eccentric

:11:39. > :11:41.MP by the name of Colonel Richard Martin, held himself up to ridicule

:11:42. > :11:47.with the idea that animals could have rights too. But this wasn't

:11:48. > :11:53.your typical animal lover. Peter Phillips was the biographer. Martin

:11:54. > :12:00.was a champion due list of Ireland. He was known as hairtrigger Dick in

:12:01. > :12:03.his youth. He owned the biggest estate in the British Isles, it's an

:12:04. > :12:12.absolute wilderness right on the West Coast of Ireland. He lived in

:12:13. > :12:16.the middle of it, to put 30 miles of bog between him and various

:12:17. > :12:19.creditors. On the other hand, he was a great celebrity and orator in

:12:20. > :12:24.Georgian Society, a speaker in the House of Commons and a personal

:12:25. > :12:28.friend of the Prince Regent. Despite his sharpshooting and sharp tongued

:12:29. > :13:02.reputation, Martin had a softer side. Animal rights were

:13:03. > :13:09.In 1822 he succeeded in pushing through the cruel treatment animals

:13:10. > :13:16.act. He got the law onto the statute book, but it implemented? All the

:13:17. > :13:20.animal rights in the world now stem back to that one piece of

:13:21. > :13:25.legislation. Did the act have teeth? It wasn't long before it was put to

:13:26. > :13:34.the test. Milburn, a fruit and vegetable seller, was accused of

:13:35. > :13:37.cruelty to his donkey. -- Bill Byrne. During the trial it was

:13:38. > :13:43.apparent that Tempo Mac had mistreated his donkey. But it was

:13:44. > :13:47.apparent to Martin that his new law wasn't taken seriously. And that

:13:48. > :13:52.Bill Byrne would be let off the hook. He led the beating and big

:13:53. > :13:59.drag old donkey into the courtroom. The stunt was a success. The wounds

:14:00. > :14:08.inflicted on the animal were plain for all to see. The judge finds the

:14:09. > :14:10.man under the new Martin's law. The scene was immortalised in this

:14:11. > :14:18.painting, and there was a song written about it entitled If I Had A

:14:19. > :14:28.Donkey and it was heard bellowing from the musicals of the city.

:14:29. > :14:35.Hairtrigger Dick was now humanity Dick. Despite this early victory, he

:14:36. > :14:39.knew the job wasn't quite finished, especially when he saw the

:14:40. > :14:46.conditions in Smithfield market, the largest meat market in London. David

:14:47. > :14:50.is from the RSPCA. Every time he came to the House of Commons passed

:14:51. > :14:52.here, he saw conditions hadn't improved, so he realised that you

:14:53. > :14:55.couldn't just pass laws, you need couldn't just pass laws, you need

:14:56. > :15:00.something to enforce them. That's why he set up the Society for the

:15:01. > :15:05.prevention of cruelty to animals. Since the law was passed almost 200

:15:06. > :15:10.years ago, millions of animals have been saved from the so-called wanton

:15:11. > :15:11.barbarity that was taken for granted before. What do you say to that,

:15:12. > :15:14.handsome? STUDIO: An amazing story -

:15:15. > :15:16.and Gyles joins us now. Gyles, this isn't the only time

:15:17. > :15:27.an animal's been called It happens now and again. The French

:15:28. > :15:32.were particularly keen on bringing animals into court. A case in 2008

:15:33. > :15:38.with a murder trial, witness to the murder of a woman was a dog. Two and

:15:39. > :15:41.a half years later, the dog was brought into court, having been in

:15:42. > :15:46.the room when the woman was murdered. The dog was on the witness

:15:47. > :15:51.stand, and when he saw the accused, he barked furiously and wildly. Did

:15:52. > :15:54.they believe him? The judge didn't believe it was conclusive evidence.

:15:55. > :15:56.But did agree the dog was a good witness. The French are keen on

:15:57. > :16:08.this. The accused was invited to weld a

:16:09. > :16:13.bat towards the Labradors. One of the Labradors had been previously

:16:14. > :16:15.attacked. The hope was there would be evidence - whichever Labrador

:16:16. > :16:19.reacted would tell be evidence - whichever Labrador

:16:20. > :16:25.They were not interested in French justice at this time. They did not

:16:26. > :16:30.co-operate. Aisling, since I am sitting next to

:16:31. > :16:36.you, can I accuse you since we are in court when it comes to animals of

:16:37. > :16:41.perhaps telling a white lie to get this wonderful gig on War And Peace.

:16:42. > :16:46.You and your horse riding. I did lie... Yes! Live television... The

:16:47. > :16:50.judge and jury are watching now. What did you lie about? What did

:16:51. > :16:54.they ask you at the audition when you filled out the form? I think

:16:55. > :16:58.everyone tells the lie. You say you have loads of skills you haven't got

:16:59. > :17:05.and then they work around it. I said I could ride a horse. And I

:17:06. > :17:10.couldn't. And they like stood and someone was crouched beneath the

:17:11. > :17:16.horse holding it for me. Can I say - you ride a horse brilliantly! You

:17:17. > :17:22.couldn't until you got the job. I am a liar and a Aprilant horse rider!

:17:23. > :17:27.-- brilliant horse rider. I have lied about riding a horse!

:17:28. > :17:36.We have some pictures which are part of this story. You recognise that

:17:37. > :17:41.wonderful creature. He's called Maruto. He's a monkey and that

:17:42. > :17:46.picture was taken with a camera belonging to David Slater. The

:17:47. > :17:51.monkey picked up the camera and that is a selfie of a monkey. It went

:17:52. > :17:57.viral. It went all over the world and David Slater made a lot of money

:17:58. > :18:01.out of that charity and a charity, PETA, they felt that maybe the money

:18:02. > :18:08.should go to the monkey - didn't he have a right in his own image? He

:18:09. > :18:14.took the picture. The court ruled that the photographer owns the

:18:15. > :18:19.rights because he owned the camera. Now photobombing by a donkey. We

:18:20. > :18:26.have a man and his son aged three. They won a ?2,000 hole dai because

:18:27. > :18:32.they were photobombed by that beautiful horse. The owner said, I

:18:33. > :18:35.trained that horse to open its mouth like that and I should get a share

:18:36. > :18:39.of the booty. In fact the judge, well the ruling is they are on

:18:40. > :18:43.public land and they own the camera and the horse gets no rights. You

:18:44. > :18:47.don't have a right in your own image. You two walking down the

:18:48. > :18:51.street, I can take a snap of you, the picture belongs to me and not to

:18:52. > :18:57.you. I cannot do that. That is the difference. That is a skill!

:18:58. > :19:03.I have spoken to your wife, you can do it. You don't know that you are

:19:04. > :19:04.doing it at the time. There is some gentle snoring going on - I will

:19:05. > :19:14.bring you in the selfie next week! Sticking animals, Foxes will perform

:19:15. > :19:17.for us shortly. First, an incredible film about some music of a very

:19:18. > :19:24.different nature. Here is Richard Mainwaring with the story of a

:19:25. > :19:29.pianist who claims the inspiration for her come positions came from

:19:30. > :19:35.beyond the grave. Beethoven's Symphony No. 9, completed three

:19:36. > :19:41.years before his death was to be his last - or was it? Well, not

:19:42. > :19:46.according to a dinner lady from Balham in South London. It was in

:19:47. > :19:50.this house in 1969 that the quiet and unassuming rosemary Brown came

:19:51. > :19:56.to public attention. She claimed to be a musical medium, acting as a

:19:57. > :20:01.supernatural scribe for hundreds of new works written by the long-dead

:20:02. > :20:06.giants of classical music. In her prolific body of work, what she

:20:07. > :20:15.claimed to be Beethoven's 10th and 11th symphonies. I was very nervous

:20:16. > :20:22.of Beethoven. He looked very fierce. She was also in psychic tune with

:20:23. > :20:27.other composers. Could this and other melodies really have come from

:20:28. > :20:31.beyond the grave? I found that the composers are often with me when I

:20:32. > :20:37.am actually shopping or doing some of the house work. One thing we do

:20:38. > :20:42.know about her is she did have some piano lessons as a child.

:20:43. > :20:45.Rosemary's works were committed to record and performed in public

:20:46. > :20:51.across the country. She even played some of the more simple pieces

:20:52. > :20:57.herself. I want to see what a modern concert pianist can make of her

:20:58. > :21:01.music. I sent Cyril a piece of Beethoven's music as transcribed by

:21:02. > :21:07.Rosemary, but without telling him where it came from. I think somebody

:21:08. > :21:11.needs to have a solid background in understanding music theory to write

:21:12. > :21:15.something like this. It is complete. It has that restlessness of

:21:16. > :21:22.Beethoven. It is actually Rosemary Brown, who is a psychic. She claimed

:21:23. > :21:26.that Beethoven wrote it through her. It was written through...

:21:27. > :21:32.Extraordinary! I can not believe that, actually. That's... It is

:21:33. > :21:37.really quite incredible. I did this is really nicely written.

:21:38. > :21:44.It is beautiful and it is worth to be played. Yes, absolutely. In 1969,

:21:45. > :21:50.her unique talent brought her to the attention of the BBC. A film

:21:51. > :21:54.director, Peter Dawling got to know her well. There with me and the

:21:55. > :22:01.soundman and cameraman and not laugh or giggle. She said I cannot

:22:02. > :22:06.guarantee that Beethoven will come. So we were able to sit and wait. We

:22:07. > :22:11.got everything ready, as I say - the finger on the button. Where in the

:22:12. > :22:17.room is he? He's besides me. I hope he comes out on the cameras, but I

:22:18. > :22:22.don't expect there's much hope. And you can hear him? I can hear him. It

:22:23. > :22:29.is not like this is all in easy keys. Indeed. She was a genuinely

:22:30. > :22:31.nice person, not trying to fool anyone and not trying to make any

:22:32. > :22:36.money out of it. She was not interested in that. It with us the

:22:37. > :22:42.talk of the news room. Peter's documentary brought worldwide

:22:43. > :22:47.attention to Rosemary's peculiar talents and she won fans among

:22:48. > :22:53.musicians. Uncomfortable in the spotlight she soon disappeared from

:22:54. > :23:00.view. Rose marry Brown died in 2001. But there may be another explanation

:23:01. > :23:04.for how this was creatured. An experts in creativity on the brain

:23:05. > :23:10.explains. We absorb information from the world around us all the time. I

:23:11. > :23:16.believe her talent was in music, not a paranormal one. If you think,

:23:17. > :23:20.things go wrong. You have to let your none conscience control go on.

:23:21. > :23:25.And people are amazed. It is clever. People should praise her for that

:23:26. > :23:31.ability. It is a shame, in my opinion, that it is attributed to

:23:32. > :23:36.Beethoven and not Rosemary Brown. That is more amazing. How is she

:23:37. > :23:42.doing it? She's so nice and genuine. There's no trickery. She was

:23:43. > :23:48.ordinary, so charmingly ordinary. We may never know how Rosemary truly

:23:49. > :23:51.composed her music. What we do know is she left a body of varied and

:23:52. > :24:08.prolific work for us all to enjoy. I believe Rosemary. I believe! What

:24:09. > :24:13.other explanation? It is the ghost of Beethoven. We don't know that for

:24:14. > :24:18.a fact, actually. On last Sunday's War And Peace there was an

:24:19. > :24:21.unexpected appearance... It has been causing a stir in the press all week

:24:22. > :24:30.long and we wanted to know what you thought. Here is Angellica. I will

:24:31. > :24:33.ask the good people here if they are offended in anyway. I was thinking

:24:34. > :24:42.that War And Peace was much longer than that.

:24:43. > :24:46.OK... He was born like that I would probably have quite enjoyed that. It

:24:47. > :24:52.is a human figure. It is inappropriate. It is all about art.

:24:53. > :24:56.I have nothing against it. It is inappropriate. Why? Because children

:24:57. > :25:00.want to watch that then you show go want to watch that then you show go

:25:01. > :25:06.to channels where you want to watch it. It does not bother me. If you

:25:07. > :25:09.understand the book you would understand that is contextual. I

:25:10. > :25:14.would not want to see a boy or a girl like that. I think it is too

:25:15. > :25:17.much. Been brought up Vy to say anything after the watershed someone

:25:18. > :25:22.can be naked and swear, whatever else. I thought the purpose of the

:25:23. > :25:29.9pm watershed was so show things you would not show beforehand. I have

:25:30. > :25:34.just had my lunch! I apologise. Is it deshl that it is passed

:25:35. > :25:41.without a -- terrible that it passed without a flinch in my house? What

:25:42. > :25:46.was it like in the locations? What was the thing? It was a moment. A

:25:47. > :25:51.bit of nudity. Nothing to worry about. Sorry!

:25:52. > :25:56.Lily when she came on talked about how amazing it was to fill in the

:25:57. > :26:03.opera house in St Petersburg and the rest of it. What were your

:26:04. > :26:07.highlights? For me it was where they shot the beautiful ballroom scene

:26:08. > :26:15.and they had an orbing chest from the opera house. I had nothing to do

:26:16. > :26:20.with it. I was like crying, I am like, oh, my God, I am part of this.

:26:21. > :26:28.I was fascinated by the battlefields where so many soldiers, were they

:26:29. > :26:31.all CGI-ed? They were in training camp when we were filming in

:26:32. > :26:36.Lithuania, there was hundreds of lads. We look forward to the final

:26:37. > :26:43.one on Sunday. That is all we've got time for. Matt and I will be back

:26:44. > :26:50.next week with Stephen Fry, Cuba Gooding Junior and Ben Miller.

:26:51. > :26:59.Foxes is playing us out with her new track Amazing.

:27:00. > :27:26.# It keeps letting me down # I know

:27:27. > :27:31.# With you tonight # It will be amazing

:27:32. > :27:37.# Be amazing # I'm scared to death

:27:38. > :27:40.# Still I'm stood here waiting # Here waiting

:27:41. > :27:43.# What you want # Do what you want

:27:44. > :27:47.# Take a hold of me # Do what you want

:27:48. > :27:52.# Cause my heart keeps saying # Do what you want

:27:53. > :28:02.# That you're All I Need # All I Need

:28:03. > :28:05.Should be running away tonight # I should be finding a place to

:28:06. > :28:09.hide # But I'm starting to feel alive

:28:10. > :28:15.# And I know, with you, tonight could be

:28:16. > :28:21.# Oh, should be running away tonight # Should be finding a place to hide

:28:22. > :28:30.# But I'm starting to feel alive # And I

:28:31. > :28:31.# But I'm starting to feel alive could be

:28:32. > :28:41.# I know # With you, tonight could be amazing

:28:42. > :28:46.# I'm scared to death # Still I'm stood her waiting

:28:47. > :28:50.# Do what you want # Do what you want

:28:51. > :28:53.# Take ahold of me # Do what you

:28:54. > :28:56.# Take ahold of me # My heart

:28:57. > :28:57.# Take ahold of me # Do what you want

:28:58. > :29:03.# You're All I Need # All I

:29:04. > :29:13.# You're All I Need A touch will bring me back to life

:29:14. > :29:14.# I'm rising