05/03/2013

:00:18. > :00:27.Hello and welcome to The One Show Hello and welcome to The One Show

:00:27. > :00:30.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

:00:30. > :00:31.with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

:00:31. > :00:38.Tonight guests loves a bit of Tonight guests loves a bit of

:00:38. > :00:39.Tonight guests loves a bit of Tonight guests loves a bit of

:00:39. > :00:49.racing in the kitchen pulls DUP -- racing in the kitchen pulls DUP --

:00:49. > :00:55.

:00:55. > :00:56.It is Matt Lucas. Brilliant! Was It is Matt Lucas. Brilliant! Was

:00:56. > :00:58.It is Matt Lucas. Brilliant! Was It is Matt Lucas. Brilliant! Was

:00:59. > :01:00.that kitchen in the West End? that kitchen in the West End?

:01:00. > :01:02.that kitchen in the West End? that kitchen in the West End?

:01:02. > :01:03.was. That is when Alfie Boe and I was. That is when Alfie Boe and I

:01:03. > :01:04.was. That is when Alfie Boe and I was. That is when Alfie Boe and I

:01:04. > :01:11.live together. We were about to go live together. We were about to go

:01:11. > :01:13.live together. We were about to go into Les Miserables together.

:01:13. > :01:13.into Les Miserables together. into Les Miserables together.

:01:13. > :01:20.into Les Miserables together. would give Russell Crowe of a run

:01:20. > :01:21.would give Russell Crowe of a run would give Russell Crowe of a run

:01:21. > :01:25.would give Russell Crowe of a run for his money! Even the role of

:01:25. > :01:28.for his money! Even the role of for his money! Even the role of

:01:28. > :01:29.Sacha Baron Cohen. I played that Sacha Baron Cohen. I played that

:01:30. > :01:31.Sacha Baron Cohen. I played that role in London at the 25th

:01:31. > :01:32.role in London at the 25th role in London at the 25th

:01:32. > :01:34.anniversary. You have gone over to anniversary. You have gone over to

:01:34. > :01:35.anniversary. You have gone over to anniversary. You have gone over to

:01:35. > :01:37.the States but we have not lost the States but we have not lost

:01:37. > :01:38.the States but we have not lost youth to Hollywood. You're back

:01:38. > :01:41.youth to Hollywood. You're back youth to Hollywood. You're back

:01:41. > :01:42.tonight in a brand new television tonight in a brand new television

:01:42. > :01:43.tonight in a brand new television tonight in a brand new television

:01:43. > :01:44.series. If you have bought a paper series. If you have bought a paper

:01:44. > :01:46.series. If you have bought a paper recently, it you will have seen

:01:46. > :01:48.recently, it you will have seen recently, it you will have seen

:01:48. > :01:49.recently, it you will have seen this. It is Tesco's big double page

:01:49. > :01:50.this. It is Tesco's big double page this. It is Tesco's big double page

:01:50. > :01:52.this. It is Tesco's big double page spread. In it, they promise to sell

:01:52. > :01:56.spread. In it, they promise to sell spread. In it, they promise to sell

:01:57. > :01:58.only British fresh chicken from only British fresh chicken from

:01:58. > :02:00.only British fresh chicken from only British fresh chicken from

:02:00. > :02:00.July the Shia. -- this year. What July the Shia. -- this year. What

:02:00. > :02:02.July the Shia. -- this year. What would happen if supermarkets bought

:02:02. > :02:06.would happen if supermarkets bought would happen if supermarkets bought

:02:06. > :02:07.all their fresh meat from British all their fresh meat from British

:02:07. > :02:08.all their fresh meat from British all their fresh meat from British

:02:08. > :02:09.farmers? We have had such a fuss farmers? We have had such a fuss

:02:09. > :02:11.farmers? We have had such a fuss surrounding what we're eating. What

:02:11. > :02:13.surrounding what we're eating. What surrounding what we're eating. What

:02:13. > :02:15.if Britain decided to eat any if Britain decided to eat any

:02:15. > :02:16.if Britain decided to eat any British meat. Could it be possible?

:02:16. > :02:18.British meat. Could it be possible? British meat. Could it be possible?

:02:18. > :02:19.This former pig farmer is a This former pig farmer is a

:02:19. > :02:21.This former pig farmer is a director at the Agriculture and

:02:21. > :02:22.director at the Agriculture and horticulture Development Board.

:02:22. > :02:23.horticulture Development Board. horticulture Development Board.

:02:23. > :02:25.They know everything there is to They know everything there is to

:02:26. > :02:27.They know everything there is to know about the meat industry. Let's

:02:27. > :02:28.know about the meat industry. Let's know about the meat industry. Let's

:02:28. > :02:30.know about the meat industry. Let's start with beef. Could we really be

:02:30. > :02:30.start with beef. Could we really be start with beef. Could we really be

:02:30. > :02:34.self-sufficient and not have to buy self-sufficient and not have to buy

:02:34. > :02:37.self-sufficient and not have to buy any from anywhere else? We are

:02:37. > :02:38.any from anywhere else? We are any from anywhere else? We are

:02:38. > :02:39.producing about 80% and exporting producing about 80% and exporting

:02:39. > :02:40.producing about 80% and exporting producing about 80% and exporting

:02:40. > :02:41.producing about 80% and exporting 20%. That is cuts of meat we do not

:02:41. > :02:43.20%. That is cuts of meat we do not 20%. That is cuts of meat we do not

:02:44. > :02:45.normally consume in this country - normally consume in this country -

:02:45. > :02:46.normally consume in this country - normally consume in this country -

:02:46. > :02:47.the cheaper cuts. We are down near the cheaper cuts. We are down near

:02:47. > :02:47.the cheaper cuts. We are down near the cheaper cuts. We are down near

:02:48. > :02:54.the cheaper cuts. We are down near the 60% mark. We need to get up to

:02:54. > :02:56.the 60% mark. We need to get up to the 60% mark. We need to get up to

:02:56. > :02:57.nearly 100% by doubling production. nearly 100% by doubling production.

:02:57. > :02:59.nearly 100% by doubling production. nearly 100% by doubling production.

:02:59. > :03:00.In pork, we only produce 40% of the In pork, we only produce 40% of the

:03:00. > :03:01.In pork, we only produce 40% of the In pork, we only produce 40% of the

:03:01. > :03:02.meat we eat. That would be a meat we eat. That would be a

:03:02. > :03:03.meat we eat. That would be a meat we eat. That would be a

:03:03. > :03:06.challenge as well but we could do challenge as well but we could do

:03:06. > :03:06.challenge as well but we could do challenge as well but we could do

:03:06. > :03:11.it. It would take between four and it. It would take between four and

:03:11. > :03:13.it. It would take between four and five years for apiece. It would

:03:13. > :03:15.five years for apiece. It would five years for apiece. It would

:03:15. > :03:19.take about three to four years. take about three to four years.

:03:19. > :03:22.take about three to four years. What about lamb? We are virtually

:03:22. > :03:25.What about lamb? We are virtually What about lamb? We are virtually

:03:25. > :03:29.at 100%. It is seasonal. Ironically, at 100%. It is seasonal. Ironically,

:03:29. > :03:30.at 100%. It is seasonal. Ironically, at 100%. It is seasonal. Ironically,

:03:30. > :03:32.we export 30% and import 30%. we export 30% and import 30%.

:03:32. > :03:34.sufficiency for chicken is sufficiency for chicken is

:03:34. > :03:34.sufficiency for chicken is sufficiency for chicken is

:03:35. > :03:36.currently at 80%. We spoke to one currently at 80%. We spoke to one

:03:36. > :03:37.currently at 80%. We spoke to one currently at 80%. We spoke to one

:03:37. > :03:38.of the biggest hatcheries in the UK of the biggest hatcheries in the UK

:03:38. > :03:40.of the biggest hatcheries in the UK of the biggest hatcheries in the UK

:03:40. > :03:41.he said that all we would need is he said that all we would need is

:03:41. > :03:43.he said that all we would need is around nine months. Every poultry

:03:43. > :03:44.around nine months. Every poultry around nine months. Every poultry

:03:44. > :03:45.around nine months. Every poultry farmer in the land would want me to

:03:45. > :03:47.farmer in the land would want me to farmer in the land would want me to

:03:47. > :03:49.said they could deliver 100%. said they could deliver 100%.

:03:49. > :03:51.said they could deliver 100%. would the cost implications be?

:03:51. > :03:52.would the cost implications be? would the cost implications be?

:03:52. > :03:53.would the cost implications be? They would have to buy the stock

:03:53. > :03:56.They would have to buy the stock They would have to buy the stock

:03:56. > :03:56.and invest in to buildings and and invest in to buildings and

:03:56. > :03:58.and invest in to buildings and equipment. He is basing their

:03:58. > :04:00.equipment. He is basing their equipment. He is basing their

:04:00. > :04:02.higher speed, fertiliser and fuel higher speed, fertiliser and fuel

:04:02. > :04:03.higher speed, fertiliser and fuel higher speed, fertiliser and fuel

:04:03. > :04:05.costs ever faced. Fuel is �200 a costs ever faced. Fuel is �200 a

:04:05. > :04:08.costs ever faced. Fuel is �200 a costs ever faced. Fuel is �200 a

:04:08. > :04:09.tan. A couple of years ago it was tan. A couple of years ago it was

:04:09. > :04:10.tan. A couple of years ago it was tan. A couple of years ago it was

:04:10. > :04:12.nearer �100. We have the land and nearer �100. We have the land and

:04:12. > :04:13.nearer �100. We have the land and nearer �100. We have the land and

:04:13. > :04:16.nearer �100. We have the land and the farmers to do it. 75% of the UK

:04:16. > :04:17.the farmers to do it. 75% of the UK the farmers to do it. 75% of the UK

:04:17. > :04:19.is covered in grassland. Why don't is covered in grassland. Why don't

:04:19. > :04:19.is covered in grassland. Why don't is covered in grassland. Why don't

:04:19. > :04:21.is covered in grassland. Why don't we just do it? It is about a long-

:04:21. > :04:22.we just do it? It is about a long- we just do it? It is about a long-

:04:22. > :04:23.term commitment from the consumer term commitment from the consumer

:04:23. > :04:24.term commitment from the consumer term commitment from the consumer

:04:24. > :04:24.and retailer to want to buy British and retailer to want to buy British

:04:25. > :04:28.and retailer to want to buy British and retailer to want to buy British

:04:28. > :04:29.and be prepared to pay a little bit and be prepared to pay a little bit

:04:29. > :04:30.and be prepared to pay a little bit and be prepared to pay a little bit

:04:30. > :04:32.more for it. Peter it is a cattle more for it. Peter it is a cattle

:04:32. > :04:34.more for it. Peter it is a cattle farmer in Oxfordshire. What is the

:04:34. > :04:36.farmer in Oxfordshire. What is the farmer in Oxfordshire. What is the

:04:36. > :04:38.farmer in Oxfordshire. What is the farmers take on all of this? What

:04:38. > :04:39.farmers take on all of this? What farmers take on all of this? What

:04:39. > :04:41.other logistics? We would need to other logistics? We would need to

:04:41. > :04:43.other logistics? We would need to purchase more stock, put up some

:04:44. > :04:45.purchase more stock, put up some purchase more stock, put up some

:04:45. > :04:46.more buildings, make more foraged more buildings, make more foraged

:04:46. > :04:48.more buildings, make more foraged more buildings, make more foraged

:04:48. > :04:49.to feed the cattle. Perhaps take on to feed the cattle. Perhaps take on

:04:49. > :04:51.to feed the cattle. Perhaps take on to feed the cattle. Perhaps take on

:04:51. > :04:52.more land. It would cost you money? more land. It would cost you money?

:04:52. > :04:53.more land. It would cost you money? It does. If you're getting return,

:04:53. > :04:56.It does. If you're getting return, It does. If you're getting return,

:04:56. > :04:58.It does. If you're getting return, that is what it is all about. If

:04:58. > :04:59.that is what it is all about. If that is what it is all about. If

:04:59. > :05:00.you started immediately, it would you started immediately, it would

:05:01. > :05:02.you started immediately, it would take between three and four years

:05:02. > :05:03.take between three and four years take between three and four years

:05:04. > :05:04.take between three and four years to have extra beef come online.

:05:05. > :05:06.to have extra beef come online. to have extra beef come online.

:05:06. > :05:08.can you guarantee that more cattle can you guarantee that more cattle

:05:08. > :05:09.can you guarantee that more cattle would be looked after? We're being

:05:09. > :05:11.would be looked after? We're being would be looked after? We're being

:05:11. > :05:13.checked upon on a regular basis checked upon on a regular basis

:05:13. > :05:14.checked upon on a regular basis that the welfare is correct.

:05:14. > :05:15.that the welfare is correct. that the welfare is correct.

:05:15. > :05:16.Farmers have the confidence and Farmers have the confidence and

:05:16. > :05:18.Farmers have the confidence and they will produce the goods.

:05:18. > :05:18.they will produce the goods. they will produce the goods.

:05:19. > :05:20.Whatever supermarket, is they stand Whatever supermarket, is they stand

:05:20. > :05:23.Whatever supermarket, is they stand by what they are doing, farmers

:05:23. > :05:24.by what they are doing, farmers by what they are doing, farmers

:05:24. > :05:26.by what they are doing, farmers will supply them. I wait to see if

:05:26. > :05:28.will supply them. I wait to see if will supply them. I wait to see if

:05:28. > :05:29.they actually still say the same they actually still say the same

:05:29. > :05:30.they actually still say the same they actually still say the same

:05:31. > :05:33.thing in five, 10, 20 years' time. thing in five, 10, 20 years' time.

:05:33. > :05:35.thing in five, 10, 20 years' time. thing in five, 10, 20 years' time.

:05:35. > :05:37.I hope they are. So, it seems, it I hope they are. So, it seems, it

:05:37. > :05:38.I hope they are. So, it seems, it is possible. We could be self-

:05:38. > :05:38.is possible. We could be self- is possible. We could be self-

:05:38. > :05:40.is possible. We could be self- sufficient when it comes to meet in

:05:40. > :05:41.sufficient when it comes to meet in sufficient when it comes to meet in

:05:41. > :05:44.this country. If the farmers felt this country. If the farmers felt

:05:44. > :05:45.this country. If the farmers felt confident in the supermarkets and,

:05:45. > :05:48.confident in the supermarkets and, confident in the supermarkets and,

:05:48. > :05:49.ultimately, we are prepared to pay ultimately, we are prepared to pay

:05:49. > :05:51.ultimately, we are prepared to pay ultimately, we are prepared to pay

:05:51. > :05:54.the price. I like the sound of that. the price. I like the sound of that.

:05:54. > :05:57.the price. I like the sound of that. You quite like chicken nuggets.

:05:57. > :05:58.You quite like chicken nuggets. You quite like chicken nuggets.

:05:58. > :06:01.You quite like chicken nuggets. like processed food. It in a cow, I

:06:01. > :06:03.like processed food. It in a cow, I like processed food. It in a cow, I

:06:03. > :06:05.like processed food. It in a cow, I think, can be quite cute. -- even a

:06:05. > :06:05.think, can be quite cute. -- even a think, can be quite cute. -- even a

:06:05. > :06:06.think, can be quite cute. -- even a think, can be quite cute. -- even a

:06:06. > :06:08.cow. If it is in that kit form, it cow. If it is in that kit form, it

:06:08. > :06:09.cow. If it is in that kit form, it cow. If it is in that kit form, it

:06:09. > :06:10.cow. If it is in that kit form, it is fine. I do not want to know what

:06:11. > :06:12.is fine. I do not want to know what is fine. I do not want to know what

:06:12. > :06:14.is fine. I do not want to know what is fine. I do not want to know what

:06:14. > :06:17.it is. I do not care what it is, as it is. I do not care what it is, as

:06:17. > :06:18.it is. I do not care what it is, as it is. I do not care what it is, as

:06:18. > :06:20.it is. I do not care what it is, as long as I do not know. I am with

:06:20. > :06:21.long as I do not know. I am with long as I do not know. I am with

:06:21. > :06:22.long as I do not know. I am with you on that. I prefer to know where

:06:22. > :06:24.you on that. I prefer to know where you on that. I prefer to know where

:06:24. > :06:26.you on that. I prefer to know where it comes from and what it looks

:06:26. > :06:27.it comes from and what it looks it comes from and what it looks

:06:27. > :06:28.it comes from and what it looks like on the plate. The matt Lucas

:06:28. > :06:35.like on the plate. The matt Lucas like on the plate. The matt Lucas

:06:35. > :06:36.awards are back tonight. He's -- awards are back tonight. He's --

:06:36. > :06:37.awards are back tonight. He's -- awards are back tonight. He's --

:06:37. > :06:38.you said the first series was not you said the first series was not

:06:38. > :06:42.you said the first series was not you said the first series was not

:06:42. > :06:43.where you wanted it to be. It had where you wanted it to be. It had

:06:43. > :06:44.where you wanted it to be. It had transferred over from radio. I felt

:06:44. > :06:46.transferred over from radio. I felt transferred over from radio. I felt

:06:46. > :06:49.transferred over from radio. I felt transferred over from radio. I felt

:06:49. > :06:50.we did not get a spirit of fun in we did not get a spirit of fun in

:06:51. > :06:52.we did not get a spirit of fun in we did not get a spirit of fun in

:06:52. > :06:53.the new series. -- in the first the new series. -- in the first

:06:53. > :06:55.the new series. -- in the first the new series. -- in the first

:06:55. > :06:56.series but we do have that in this series but we do have that in this

:06:56. > :06:58.series but we do have that in this series but we do have that in this

:06:58. > :06:59.one. I am relaxed and a bit more one. I am relaxed and a bit more

:06:59. > :07:00.one. I am relaxed and a bit more comfortable. I have always been

:07:00. > :07:03.comfortable. I have always been comfortable. I have always been

:07:03. > :07:04.comfortable. I have always been blunt about the things I have done

:07:04. > :07:05.blunt about the things I have done blunt about the things I have done

:07:05. > :07:08.blunt about the things I have done - analytical - and tried to change

:07:08. > :07:10.- analytical - and tried to change - analytical - and tried to change

:07:10. > :07:11.things. The main changes we made things. The main changes we made

:07:11. > :07:13.things. The main changes we made things. The main changes we made

:07:13. > :07:13.our, I do not decide who wins the our, I do not decide who wins the

:07:14. > :07:18.our, I do not decide who wins the awards. We have a different panel

:07:18. > :07:20.awards. We have a different panel awards. We have a different panel

:07:20. > :07:25.awards. We have a different panel of judges. When week we had four

:07:25. > :07:26.of judges. When week we had four of judges. When week we had four

:07:26. > :07:28.from EastEnders. We have city, from EastEnders. We have city,

:07:28. > :07:31.from EastEnders. We have city, sweep and Sue one-week, the Grange

:07:31. > :07:32.sweep and Sue one-week, the Grange sweep and Sue one-week, the Grange

:07:32. > :07:33.Hill alumni another week. We have Hill alumni another week. We have

:07:34. > :07:34.Hill alumni another week. We have brought in a hidden talent award

:07:34. > :07:37.brought in a hidden talent award brought in a hidden talent award

:07:37. > :07:38.brought in a hidden talent award that every guest has to do. We

:07:39. > :07:41.that every guest has to do. We that every guest has to do. We

:07:41. > :07:42.picked up wards that people were picked up wards that people were

:07:42. > :07:45.picked up wards that people were more passionate about and I think

:07:45. > :07:48.more passionate about and I think more passionate about and I think

:07:48. > :07:49.it works really well. -- have it works really well. -- have

:07:49. > :07:50.it works really well. -- have it works really well. -- have

:07:50. > :07:51.awards. I can identify a car from awards. I can identify a car from

:07:51. > :07:54.awards. I can identify a car from awards. I can identify a car from

:07:54. > :07:56.the 1980s by the sound of its the 1980s by the sound of its

:07:57. > :07:59.the 1980s by the sound of its the 1980s by the sound of its

:08:00. > :08:03.engine. He knows it. What is it?Is engine. He knows it. What is it?Is

:08:03. > :08:06.engine. He knows it. What is it?Is engine. He knows it. What is it?Is

:08:06. > :08:11.engine. He knows it. What is it?Is it a BMW? What type?A 3 series. It

:08:11. > :08:14.it a BMW? What type?A 3 series. It it a BMW? What type?A 3 series. It

:08:14. > :08:16.it a BMW? What type?A 3 series. It is a BMW, 3.29. How about that!

:08:17. > :08:19.is a BMW, 3.29. How about that! is a BMW, 3.29. How about that!

:08:19. > :08:19.did it brilliantly. You can also did it brilliantly. You can also

:08:19. > :08:21.did it brilliantly. You can also did it brilliantly. You can also

:08:21. > :08:22.see that Robert Webb said he could see that Robert Webb said he could

:08:22. > :08:23.see that Robert Webb said he could see that Robert Webb said he could

:08:23. > :08:26.throw a bus Kabul over his shoulder throw a bus Kabul over his shoulder

:08:26. > :08:30.throw a bus Kabul over his shoulder throw a bus Kabul over his shoulder

:08:30. > :08:30.and get it in the hoop. -- a and get it in the hoop. -- a

:08:30. > :08:40.and get it in the hoop. -- a basketball. Some things are more

:08:40. > :08:43.basketball. Some things are more impressive than others. Gyles

:08:43. > :08:44.impressive than others. Gyles impressive than others. Gyles

:08:44. > :08:47.Brandreth turned a banana into a Brandreth turned a banana into a

:08:47. > :08:50.Brandreth turned a banana into a Brandreth turned a banana into a

:08:50. > :08:52.pig with four incisions. He has not pig with four incisions. He has not

:08:52. > :08:53.pig with four incisions. He has not pig with four incisions. He has not

:08:53. > :08:56.done that on the show! I did a done that on the show! I did a

:08:56. > :08:58.done that on the show! I did a hidden talent on another show

:08:58. > :09:00.hidden talent on another show hidden talent on another show

:09:00. > :09:02.recently. That was singing the recently. That was singing the

:09:02. > :09:03.Flintstones in German. Another Flintstones in German. Another

:09:03. > :09:04.Flintstones in German. Another Flintstones in German. Another

:09:04. > :09:09.Flintstones in German. Another thing I do, I need to go down the

:09:09. > :09:13.thing I do, I need to go down the thing I do, I need to go down the

:09:13. > :09:15.barrel for theirs. This! That is barrel for theirs. This! That is

:09:15. > :09:16.barrel for theirs. This! That is barrel for theirs. This! That is

:09:16. > :09:19.why hidden talent. We have that in why hidden talent. We have that in

:09:19. > :09:22.why hidden talent. We have that in slow motion as well now. Absolutely

:09:22. > :09:24.slow motion as well now. Absolutely slow motion as well now. Absolutely

:09:24. > :09:26.slow motion as well now. Absolutely brilliant! I will not be going home

:09:26. > :09:27.brilliant! I will not be going home brilliant! I will not be going home

:09:27. > :09:32.brilliant! I will not be going home alone. How pleased was ill mum to

:09:32. > :09:32.alone. How pleased was ill mum to alone. How pleased was ill mum to

:09:32. > :09:34.alone. How pleased was ill mum to have a second series? -- ate your

:09:34. > :09:35.have a second series? -- ate your have a second series? -- ate your

:09:35. > :09:37.have a second series? -- ate your mum. Anything that gets her out of

:09:37. > :09:39.mum. Anything that gets her out of mum. Anything that gets her out of

:09:39. > :09:41.mum. Anything that gets her out of the house is good. She is glamorous.

:09:41. > :09:42.the house is good. She is glamorous. the house is good. She is glamorous.

:09:42. > :09:45.the house is good. She is glamorous. She has been on a diet. She brings

:09:45. > :09:46.She has been on a diet. She brings She has been on a diet. She brings

:09:46. > :09:48.in home-made chicken soup, like in home-made chicken soup, like

:09:48. > :09:50.in home-made chicken soup, like every Jewish mother can make Soraya

:09:50. > :09:51.every Jewish mother can make Soraya every Jewish mother can make Soraya

:09:51. > :09:53.every Jewish mother can make Soraya Douma have to read anything out of

:09:53. > :09:54.Douma have to read anything out of Douma have to read anything out of

:09:54. > :09:58.Douma have to read anything out of the BBC canteen. -- so I do not

:09:58. > :09:59.the BBC canteen. -- so I do not the BBC canteen. -- so I do not

:09:59. > :10:01.have to eat. That returns tonight have to eat. That returns tonight

:10:01. > :10:02.have to eat. That returns tonight have to eat. That returns tonight

:10:02. > :10:04.at 10:30pm on BBC One. The news MPs at 10:30pm on BBC One. The news MPs

:10:04. > :10:05.at 10:30pm on BBC One. The news MPs would like 20 grand increase in

:10:05. > :10:07.would like 20 grand increase in would like 20 grand increase in

:10:07. > :10:08.would like 20 grand increase in 2015 if you have not had a pay

:10:08. > :10:10.2015 if you have not had a pay 2015 if you have not had a pay

:10:10. > :10:12.increase for years is probably a increase for years is probably a

:10:12. > :10:14.increase for years is probably a surprise. MPs are ready top up

:10:14. > :10:15.surprise. MPs are ready top up surprise. MPs are ready top up

:10:15. > :10:17.their salaries by taking second their salaries by taking second

:10:17. > :10:19.their salaries by taking second jobs. Gyles Brandreth explains how

:10:19. > :10:21.jobs. Gyles Brandreth explains how jobs. Gyles Brandreth explains how

:10:21. > :10:22.they manage it. Ever wondered what they manage it. Ever wondered what

:10:22. > :10:22.they manage it. Ever wondered what they manage it. Ever wondered what

:10:22. > :10:24.they manage it. Ever wondered what MPs get up to in there all day long.

:10:24. > :10:26.MPs get up to in there all day long. MPs get up to in there all day long.

:10:26. > :10:27.They are supposed to be working. They are supposed to be working.

:10:27. > :10:28.They are supposed to be working. They are supposed to be working.

:10:28. > :10:30.Would it worry you if they were not Would it worry you if they were not

:10:30. > :10:31.Would it worry you if they were not Would it worry you if they were not

:10:31. > :10:34.working just for you? It seems the working just for you? It seems the

:10:34. > :10:36.working just for you? It seems the majority of MPs are moonlighting.

:10:36. > :10:37.majority of MPs are moonlighting. majority of MPs are moonlighting.

:10:37. > :10:38.Nothing new. There is no job Nothing new. There is no job

:10:38. > :10:38.Nothing new. There is no job Nothing new. There is no job

:10:39. > :10:43.description for an MP so there is description for an MP so there is

:10:43. > :10:45.description for an MP so there is description for an MP so there is

:10:45. > :10:48.nothing to stop them. Are the 650 - nothing to stop them. Are the 650 -

:10:48. > :10:50.nothing to stop them. Are the 650 - nothing to stop them. Are the 650 -

:10:50. > :10:51.- the 650 MPs, only a few declared - the 650 MPs, only a few declared

:10:51. > :10:53.- the 650 MPs, only a few declared no outside interests at all. One

:10:53. > :10:54.no outside interests at all. One no outside interests at all. One

:10:54. > :10:56.no outside interests at all. One was a barrister or director of a

:10:56. > :10:59.was a barrister or director of a was a barrister or director of a

:10:59. > :11:00.commercial enterprise. Some earn in commercial enterprise. Some earn in

:11:00. > :11:02.commercial enterprise. Some earn in commercial enterprise. Some earn in

:11:02. > :11:03.excess of �100,000 on top of their excess of �100,000 on top of their

:11:04. > :11:05.excess of �100,000 on top of their basic annual salary of �66,000. Is

:11:05. > :11:05.basic annual salary of �66,000. Is basic annual salary of �66,000. Is

:11:05. > :11:07.basic annual salary of �66,000. Is it right our MPs are taking other

:11:07. > :11:09.it right our MPs are taking other it right our MPs are taking other

:11:09. > :11:10.it right our MPs are taking other jobs for many when we, as taxpayers,

:11:10. > :11:11.jobs for many when we, as taxpayers, jobs for many when we, as taxpayers,

:11:11. > :11:13.jobs for many when we, as taxpayers, are paying them a salary to work

:11:13. > :11:14.are paying them a salary to work are paying them a salary to work

:11:14. > :11:17.are paying them a salary to work for us? I have taken it upon myself

:11:17. > :11:18.for us? I have taken it upon myself for us? I have taken it upon myself

:11:18. > :11:19.for us? I have taken it upon myself for us? I have taken it upon myself

:11:19. > :11:22.to set up a surgery to get to the to set up a surgery to get to the

:11:22. > :11:23.bottom of this moonlighting bottom of this moonlighting

:11:23. > :11:24.bottom of this moonlighting business. Every job in House of

:11:24. > :11:27.business. Every job in House of business. Every job in House of

:11:27. > :11:29.Commons comes with a job Commons comes with a job

:11:29. > :11:31.Commons comes with a job description. This one, House of

:11:31. > :11:32.description. This one, House of description. This one, House of

:11:32. > :11:35.Commons barrister. Every job except Commons barrister. Every job except

:11:35. > :11:36.Commons barrister. Every job except Commons barrister. Every job except

:11:36. > :11:37.Commons barrister. Every job except the job of being an MP. By the end

:11:37. > :11:38.the job of being an MP. By the end the job of being an MP. By the end

:11:38. > :11:40.the job of being an MP. By the end of this surgery, I'm going to come

:11:40. > :11:41.of this surgery, I'm going to come of this surgery, I'm going to come

:11:41. > :11:42.of this surgery, I'm going to come up with my job description with the

:11:42. > :11:45.up with my job description with the up with my job description with the

:11:45. > :11:50.up with my job description with the help of a couple of serving MPs. --

:11:50. > :11:54.help of a couple of serving MPs. -- help of a couple of serving MPs. --

:11:54. > :11:54.help of a couple of serving MPs. -- ate job -- a job description. Eric

:11:54. > :12:03.ate job -- a job description. Eric ate job -- a job description. Eric

:12:03. > :12:05.ate job -- a job description. Eric -- Dennis Skinner has held his job

:12:05. > :12:06.-- Dennis Skinner has held his job -- Dennis Skinner has held his job

:12:06. > :12:08.-- Dennis Skinner has held his job for 30 years. You need to be a

:12:08. > :12:10.for 30 years. You need to be a for 30 years. You need to be a

:12:10. > :12:13.reasonable public speaker. How many reasonable public speaker. How many

:12:13. > :12:13.reasonable public speaker. How many reasonable public speaker. How many

:12:13. > :12:16.hours do you work roughly? I do it hours do you work roughly? I do it

:12:16. > :12:17.hours do you work roughly? I do it hours do you work roughly? I do it

:12:17. > :12:19.about 70, at least, a week. If about 70, at least, a week. If

:12:19. > :12:19.about 70, at least, a week. If about 70, at least, a week. If

:12:19. > :12:22.there is going to be a statement in there is going to be a statement in

:12:22. > :12:23.there is going to be a statement in Parliament, you have got to be

:12:23. > :12:25.Parliament, you have got to be Parliament, you have got to be

:12:25. > :12:28.Parliament, you have got to be there. Do you think the pay, 66,000,

:12:28. > :12:31.there. Do you think the pay, 66,000, there. Do you think the pay, 66,000,

:12:31. > :12:33.is the right amount? Yes. You is the right amount? Yes. You

:12:33. > :12:34.is the right amount? Yes. You cannot start on �61,000 a year.

:12:34. > :12:36.cannot start on �61,000 a year. cannot start on �61,000 a year.

:12:36. > :12:38.What you think about outside What you think about outside

:12:38. > :12:40.What you think about outside interests - people who do some

:12:40. > :12:41.interests - people who do some interests - people who do some

:12:41. > :12:44.moonlighting and earn more? Are you moonlighting and earn more? Are you

:12:44. > :12:45.moonlighting and earn more? Are you moonlighting and earn more? Are you

:12:45. > :12:47.actively against it? Is it wrong? I actively against it? Is it wrong? I

:12:47. > :12:50.actively against it? Is it wrong? I believe there is a conflict of

:12:50. > :12:51.believe there is a conflict of believe there is a conflict of

:12:51. > :12:52.interests. Keep your fingers clean. interests. Keep your fingers clean.

:12:52. > :12:54.interests. Keep your fingers clean. interests. Keep your fingers clean.

:12:54. > :12:56.I say no to moonlighting and they I say no to moonlighting and they

:12:56. > :12:58.I say no to moonlighting and they have done all my parliamentary life.

:12:58. > :12:59.have done all my parliamentary life. Mr Skinner things regular

:12:59. > :13:00.Mr Skinner things regular Mr Skinner things regular

:13:00. > :13:01.attendance in Parliament is a must attendance in Parliament is a must

:13:01. > :13:02.attendance in Parliament is a must attendance in Parliament is a must

:13:02. > :13:04.if you want to make yourself heard if you want to make yourself heard

:13:04. > :13:04.if you want to make yourself heard if you want to make yourself heard

:13:04. > :13:06.if you want to make yourself heard and it is a big no to second jobs.

:13:06. > :13:08.and it is a big no to second jobs. and it is a big no to second jobs.

:13:08. > :13:09.My next appointment not only My next appointment not only

:13:09. > :13:12.My next appointment not only disagrees, he thinks second jobs

:13:12. > :13:12.disagrees, he thinks second jobs are essential. Another long-serving

:13:13. > :13:15.are essential. Another long-serving are essential. Another long-serving

:13:15. > :13:18.member of parliament and he does member of parliament and he does

:13:18. > :13:19.have outside interests. Peter have outside interests. Peter

:13:19. > :13:20.have outside interests. Peter Lilley earns up to �100,000 from

:13:20. > :13:21.Lilley earns up to �100,000 from Lilley earns up to �100,000 from

:13:21. > :13:23.Lilley earns up to �100,000 from other jobs. You have managed to do

:13:23. > :13:25.other jobs. You have managed to do other jobs. You have managed to do

:13:25. > :13:25.other jobs. You have managed to do a fair bit of moonlighting. Not the

:13:25. > :13:27.a fair bit of moonlighting. Not the a fair bit of moonlighting. Not the

:13:27. > :13:27.a fair bit of moonlighting. Not the phrase I would use. I have always

:13:27. > :13:28.phrase I would use. I have always phrase I would use. I have always

:13:28. > :13:30.phrase I would use. I have always had a job in addition to that of

:13:30. > :13:32.had a job in addition to that of had a job in addition to that of

:13:33. > :13:35.had a job in addition to that of being an MP. What is the value of

:13:35. > :13:36.being an MP. What is the value of being an MP. What is the value of

:13:36. > :13:37.having outside interests? It is having outside interests? It is

:13:37. > :13:38.having outside interests? It is having outside interests? It is

:13:38. > :13:40.something to fall back on if he something to fall back on if he

:13:40. > :13:42.something to fall back on if he fell to get re-elected. A growing

:13:42. > :13:43.fell to get re-elected. A growing fell to get re-elected. A growing

:13:43. > :13:44.fell to get re-elected. A growing proportion of people - too big a

:13:44. > :13:47.proportion of people - too big a proportion of people - too big a

:13:47. > :13:48.proportion in my view - are proportion in my view - are

:13:48. > :13:50.professional politicians. They professional politicians. They

:13:50. > :13:51.studied politics in universities studied politics in universities

:13:51. > :13:52.studied politics in universities studied politics in universities

:13:52. > :13:55.and went to work for a public and went to work for a public

:13:55. > :13:56.and went to work for a public affairs company and then they got

:13:56. > :13:58.affairs company and then they got affairs company and then they got

:13:58. > :13:59.elected as a politician. They have elected as a politician. They have

:13:59. > :14:02.elected as a politician. They have never done anything else and would

:14:02. > :14:05.never done anything else and would never done anything else and would

:14:05. > :14:06.be unemployable outside of politics. be unemployable outside of politics.

:14:06. > :14:08.be unemployable outside of politics. Real world experience. He thinks

:14:08. > :14:08.Real world experience. He thinks Real world experience. He thinks

:14:08. > :14:10.Real world experience. He thinks that second jobs could make you a

:14:10. > :14:11.that second jobs could make you a that second jobs could make you a

:14:11. > :14:12.that second jobs could make you a more effective MP. I have put no

:14:12. > :14:14.more effective MP. I have put no more effective MP. I have put no

:14:14. > :14:17.more effective MP. I have put no more effective MP. I have put no

:14:17. > :14:18.and now I have to put yes. This is and now I have to put yes. This is

:14:18. > :14:19.and now I have to put yes. This is quite confusing. Not just me who

:14:19. > :14:21.quite confusing. Not just me who quite confusing. Not just me who

:14:21. > :14:24.quite confusing. Not just me who finds it difficult to get to grips

:14:24. > :14:24.finds it difficult to get to grips finds it difficult to get to grips

:14:24. > :14:25.with the matter. The Independent with the matter. The Independent

:14:25. > :14:26.parliamentary services authority parliamentary services authority

:14:26. > :14:27.parliamentary services authority consulted you and you could not

:14:27. > :14:28.consulted you and you could not consulted you and you could not

:14:28. > :14:31.consulted you and you could not agree as to whether MPs should be

:14:31. > :14:32.agree as to whether MPs should be agree as to whether MPs should be

:14:32. > :14:34.allowed to have second jobs. 77% allowed to have second jobs. 77%

:14:34. > :14:34.allowed to have second jobs. 77% allowed to have second jobs. 77%

:14:34. > :14:36.wanted to know more about what MPs wanted to know more about what MPs

:14:36. > :14:38.wanted to know more about what MPs got up to at Westminster. Despite

:14:38. > :14:39.got up to at Westminster. Despite got up to at Westminster. Despite

:14:39. > :14:40.the headlines come up outside the headlines come up outside

:14:40. > :14:42.the headlines come up outside interests are not necessarily the

:14:43. > :14:44.interests are not necessarily the money-spinning you might think.

:14:44. > :14:45.money-spinning you might think. money-spinning you might think.

:14:45. > :14:47.Around 90% of MPs with outside Around 90% of MPs with outside

:14:47. > :14:48.Around 90% of MPs with outside earnings make less than �10,000 a

:14:48. > :14:50.earnings make less than �10,000 a earnings make less than �10,000 a

:14:50. > :14:52.earnings make less than �10,000 a year on top of their salaries. That

:14:52. > :14:54.year on top of their salaries. That year on top of their salaries. That

:14:54. > :14:55.means, 10% are earning rather more. means, 10% are earning rather more.

:14:55. > :14:56.means, 10% are earning rather more. means, 10% are earning rather more.

:14:56. > :14:58.I must say, I quite like the sound I must say, I quite like the sound

:14:58. > :15:01.I must say, I quite like the sound I must say, I quite like the sound

:15:01. > :15:02.of this job. The money is not bad of this job. The money is not bad

:15:02. > :15:04.of this job. The money is not bad and moonlighting is still around.

:15:04. > :15:05.and moonlighting is still around. and moonlighting is still around.

:15:05. > :15:06.It seems the public does not It seems the public does not

:15:06. > :15:07.It seems the public does not It seems the public does not

:15:07. > :15:09.exactly know what the MPs are doing exactly know what the MPs are doing

:15:09. > :15:09.exactly know what the MPs are doing exactly know what the MPs are doing

:15:09. > :15:11.at Westminster anyway, so I think I at Westminster anyway, so I think I

:15:11. > :15:12.at Westminster anyway, so I think I at Westminster anyway, so I think I

:15:12. > :15:13.might give it another bash. Oh no, might give it another bash. Oh no,

:15:13. > :15:23.might give it another bash. Oh no, might give it another bash. Oh no,

:15:23. > :15:30.

:15:30. > :15:30.Welcome, Matt. How can the public Welcome, Matt. How can the public

:15:30. > :15:31.Welcome, Matt. How can the public Welcome, Matt. How can the public

:15:31. > :15:34.find out what their MPs are up to find out what their MPs are up to

:15:34. > :15:35.find out what their MPs are up to during the working week? Since the

:15:35. > :15:37.during the working week? Since the during the working week? Since the

:15:37. > :15:38.expenses scandal, they have to be expenses scandal, they have to be

:15:38. > :15:40.public about their outside public about their outside

:15:40. > :15:43.public about their outside interests, who pays them and how

:15:43. > :15:45.interests, who pays them and how interests, who pays them and how

:15:45. > :15:45.much time they spend. It is much time they spend. It is

:15:45. > :15:46.much time they spend. It is published in the register of

:15:46. > :15:47.published in the register of members' financial interests, there

:15:47. > :15:50.members' financial interests, there members' financial interests, there

:15:50. > :15:51.members' financial interests, there is a link on our website. There is

:15:51. > :15:53.is a link on our website. There is also the Independent Parliamentary

:15:53. > :15:57.also the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority, which produces

:15:57. > :15:57.Standards Authority, which produces Standards Authority, which produces

:15:57. > :15:58.reports are MPs' earnings, they are reports are MPs' earnings, they are

:15:58. > :16:02.reports are MPs' earnings, they are independently more on earth to them.

:16:02. > :16:04.independently more on earth to them. independently more on earth to them.

:16:04. > :16:06.You come bearing shiny things. You You come bearing shiny things. You

:16:07. > :16:08.You come bearing shiny things. You have some Matt Lucas Style Awards.

:16:08. > :16:09.have some Matt Lucas Style Awards. have some Matt Lucas Style Awards.

:16:09. > :16:11.have some Matt Lucas Style Awards. They have stuck my head on to his

:16:11. > :16:13.They have stuck my head on to his They have stuck my head on to his

:16:13. > :16:15.They have stuck my head on to his body. Is it is very slimming for

:16:15. > :16:17.body. Is it is very slimming for body. Is it is very slimming for

:16:17. > :16:18.body. Is it is very slimming for you! We have had the BBC political

:16:18. > :16:18.you! We have had the BBC political you! We have had the BBC political

:16:18. > :16:19.you! We have had the BBC political unit mind some data and we have

:16:19. > :16:22.unit mind some data and we have unit mind some data and we have

:16:22. > :16:24.come up with some nominations, some come up with some nominations, some

:16:24. > :16:27.interesting ideas about outside interesting ideas about outside

:16:27. > :16:29.interesting ideas about outside interests. The first category is?

:16:29. > :16:30.interests. The first category is? interests. The first category is?

:16:30. > :16:31.The Most Unusual Second Income The Most Unusual Second Income

:16:31. > :16:33.The Most Unusual Second Income awards. Big smiles for our first

:16:33. > :16:35.awards. Big smiles for our first awards. Big smiles for our first

:16:35. > :16:36.nominee, Sir Paul Beresford, the MP nominee, Sir Paul Beresford, the MP

:16:36. > :16:45.nominee, Sir Paul Beresford, the MP for Mole Valley, still practises as

:16:45. > :16:46.for Mole Valley, still practises as for Mole Valley, still practises as

:16:46. > :16:48.a dentist. Peter Wisheart, the MP a dentist. Peter Wisheart, the MP

:16:48. > :16:49.a dentist. Peter Wisheart, the MP for Perth and North Perthshire are

:16:49. > :16:50.for Perth and North Perthshire are for Perth and North Perthshire are

:16:50. > :16:51.still at retires -- receives still at retires -- receives

:16:51. > :16:53.still at retires -- receives royalties for his time in Celtic

:16:53. > :16:54.royalties for his time in Celtic royalties for his time in Celtic

:16:54. > :16:54.royalties for his time in Celtic rock band Runrig, he was even on

:16:54. > :16:55.rock band Runrig, he was even on rock band Runrig, he was even on

:16:55. > :16:56.rock band Runrig, he was even on top of the Pops. I have heard of

:16:56. > :17:00.top of the Pops. I have heard of top of the Pops. I have heard of

:17:00. > :17:01.top of the Pops. I have heard of them from when I was little.

:17:01. > :17:03.them from when I was little. them from when I was little.

:17:03. > :17:05.winner has to be Robert Goodwill, winner has to be Robert Goodwill,

:17:05. > :17:06.winner has to be Robert Goodwill, MP for Scarborough and Whitby, who

:17:06. > :17:08.MP for Scarborough and Whitby, who MP for Scarborough and Whitby, who

:17:08. > :17:14.runs an eco-cemetery at his farm runs an eco-cemetery at his farm

:17:14. > :17:16.and occasionally digs graves. APPLAUSE.

:17:16. > :17:18.APPLAUSE. APPLAUSE.

:17:18. > :17:21.Shall we move on? Exciting! Shall we move on? Exciting!

:17:21. > :17:21.Shall we move on? Exciting! Shall we move on? Exciting!

:17:21. > :17:24.next award is very exciting, it is next award is very exciting, it is

:17:24. > :17:26.next award is very exciting, it is next award is very exciting, it is

:17:26. > :17:31.the How Much?! Award, or the I'm the How Much?! Award, or the I'm

:17:31. > :17:38.the How Much?! Award, or the I'm All Right, Jacques award. Energy

:17:38. > :17:42.All Right, Jacques award. Energy and Climate Change committee

:17:42. > :17:43.and Climate Change committee and Climate Change committee

:17:43. > :17:46.and Climate Change committee chairman Tim Yeo earns 187 K from

:17:46. > :17:47.chairman Tim Yeo earns 187 K from chairman Tim Yeo earns 187 K from

:17:47. > :17:50.an energy and transport company. -- an energy and transport company. --

:17:50. > :17:51.energy and transport companies. energy and transport companies.

:17:51. > :17:53.energy and transport companies. energy and transport companies.

:17:53. > :17:54.That is �300 per hour for his That is �300 per hour for his

:17:54. > :17:55.That is �300 per hour for his consulting work. For the sheer

:17:55. > :17:58.consulting work. For the sheer consulting work. For the sheer

:17:58. > :17:59.number of jobs, quite astonishing, number of jobs, quite astonishing,

:17:59. > :18:00.former Foreign Secretary David former Foreign Secretary David

:18:00. > :18:01.former Foreign Secretary David former Foreign Secretary David

:18:01. > :18:02.Miliband MP. He did not get the top Miliband MP. He did not get the top

:18:02. > :18:04.Miliband MP. He did not get the top Miliband MP. He did not get the top

:18:04. > :18:06.job but he got five other jobs, job but he got five other jobs,

:18:06. > :18:08.including his speaking engagements including his speaking engagements

:18:08. > :18:10.including his speaking engagements and newspaper articles, it gets him

:18:10. > :18:12.and newspaper articles, it gets him and newspaper articles, it gets him

:18:12. > :18:13.�350,000 in the last parliamentary �350,000 in the last parliamentary

:18:13. > :18:15.�350,000 in the last parliamentary �350,000 in the last parliamentary

:18:15. > :18:16.year. And the winner for this one, year. And the winner for this one,

:18:16. > :18:21.year. And the winner for this one, year. And the winner for this one,

:18:21. > :18:22.I think, has to be Geoffrey Cox MP, I think, has to be Geoffrey Cox MP,

:18:22. > :18:27.I think, has to be Geoffrey Cox MP, who earned almost �700,000...

:18:28. > :18:28.who earned almost �700,000... who earned almost �700,000...

:18:28. > :18:30.APPLAUSE. That is thanks to his APPLAUSE. That is thanks to his

:18:30. > :18:32.APPLAUSE. That is thanks to his APPLAUSE. That is thanks to his

:18:32. > :18:33.other job as a barrister, a QC. other job as a barrister, a QC.

:18:33. > :18:34.other job as a barrister, a QC. Quite outstanding. None of these

:18:34. > :18:35.Quite outstanding. None of these Quite outstanding. None of these

:18:35. > :18:36.Quite outstanding. None of these means they do not do their jobs

:18:36. > :18:38.means they do not do their jobs means they do not do their jobs

:18:38. > :18:39.properly as MP, they can fulfil properly as MP, they can fulfil

:18:39. > :18:40.properly as MP, they can fulfil those jobs as well. If their

:18:40. > :18:41.those jobs as well. If their those jobs as well. If their

:18:41. > :18:42.electorate did not like what electorate did not like what

:18:42. > :18:42.electorate did not like what they're doing they have the

:18:43. > :18:45.they're doing they have the they're doing they have the

:18:45. > :18:46.opportunity to vote them out. opportunity to vote them out.

:18:46. > :18:47.opportunity to vote them out. opportunity to vote them out.

:18:47. > :18:48.think if you're an MP being paid think if you're an MP being paid

:18:48. > :18:48.think if you're an MP being paid think if you're an MP being paid

:18:48. > :18:50.public money, you should be an MP. public money, you should be an MP.

:18:50. > :18:54.public money, you should be an MP. There you go, that is an

:18:54. > :18:55.There you go, that is an There you go, that is an

:18:55. > :18:56.alternative opinion. You can pass alternative opinion. You can pass

:18:56. > :18:57.alternative opinion. You can pass alternative opinion. You can pass

:18:57. > :19:01.that on to them because they are that on to them because they are

:19:01. > :19:03.that on to them because they are not here to excepted themselves!

:19:03. > :19:04.not here to excepted themselves! not here to excepted themselves!

:19:04. > :19:04.not here to excepted themselves! We know that you at home are a

:19:04. > :19:06.We know that you at home are a We know that you at home are a

:19:06. > :19:07.We know that you at home are a helpful bunch, so it is no surprise

:19:07. > :19:09.helpful bunch, so it is no surprise helpful bunch, so it is no surprise

:19:09. > :19:10.that when we asked you to that when we asked you to

:19:10. > :19:10.that when we asked you to contribute to a university research

:19:10. > :19:11.contribute to a university research contribute to a university research

:19:11. > :19:13.contribute to a university research project you came through in a big

:19:13. > :19:14.project you came through in a big project you came through in a big

:19:14. > :19:17.way. Mike Dilger is in Merseyside way. Mike Dilger is in Merseyside

:19:17. > :19:20.with the results. with the results.

:19:20. > :19:21.with the results. Last year, our viewers were asked

:19:21. > :19:22.Last year, our viewers were asked Last year, our viewers were asked

:19:22. > :19:23.for help by Anglia Ruskin for help by Anglia Ruskin

:19:23. > :19:24.for help by Anglia Ruskin for help by Anglia Ruskin

:19:24. > :19:27.University to see how far the black University to see how far the black

:19:27. > :19:28.University to see how far the black squirrel had spread in Britain. And

:19:28. > :19:30.squirrel had spread in Britain. And squirrel had spread in Britain. And

:19:30. > :19:31.squirrel had spread in Britain. And when looking back at the data, this

:19:31. > :19:31.when looking back at the data, this when looking back at the data, this

:19:32. > :19:34.when looking back at the data, this geneticist got a bit more than she

:19:34. > :19:38.geneticist got a bit more than she geneticist got a bit more than she

:19:38. > :19:39.bargained for. Especially here in bargained for. Especially here in

:19:39. > :19:40.Merseyside. Our viewers responded Merseyside. Our viewers responded

:19:40. > :19:42.Merseyside. Our viewers responded magnificently with lots of black

:19:42. > :19:43.magnificently with lots of black squirrels sightings. A great

:19:43. > :19:45.squirrels sightings. A great squirrels sightings. A great

:19:45. > :19:45.response, I was getting loads of response, I was getting loads of

:19:45. > :19:48.response, I was getting loads of blacks will sightings where I was

:19:48. > :19:50.blacks will sightings where I was blacks will sightings where I was

:19:50. > :19:52.expecting them, but also some where expecting them, but also some where

:19:52. > :19:52.expecting them, but also some where expecting them, but also some where

:19:52. > :19:54.I wasn't. One of those places was I wasn't. One of those places was

:19:54. > :19:55.I wasn't. One of those places was I wasn't. One of those places was

:19:56. > :19:56.here in Formby, one of the few here in Formby, one of the few

:19:56. > :19:58.here in Formby, one of the few strongholds for the red squirrel in

:19:58. > :19:59.strongholds for the red squirrel in strongholds for the red squirrel in

:19:59. > :20:02.England. What I realised was that England. What I realised was that

:20:02. > :20:03.England. What I realised was that The One Show viewers were telling

:20:03. > :20:04.The One Show viewers were telling The One Show viewers were telling

:20:04. > :20:08.me about black red squirrels me about black red squirrels

:20:08. > :20:09.me about black red squirrels instead of black grey squirrels.

:20:09. > :20:10.instead of black grey squirrels. instead of black grey squirrels.

:20:10. > :20:10.instead of black grey squirrels. Not only do we have grey squirrels

:20:11. > :20:11.Not only do we have grey squirrels Not only do we have grey squirrels

:20:11. > :20:13.Not only do we have grey squirrels that can be black, but our red

:20:13. > :20:14.that can be black, but our red that can be black, but our red

:20:14. > :20:16.squirrels also have a darker side. squirrels also have a darker side.

:20:16. > :20:17.squirrels also have a darker side. squirrels also have a darker side.

:20:17. > :20:18.Red squirrels tend to grow a darker Red squirrels tend to grow a darker

:20:18. > :20:20.Red squirrels tend to grow a darker Red squirrels tend to grow a darker

:20:20. > :20:21.fur in winter, but for some of them fur in winter, but for some of them

:20:21. > :20:22.this pigmentation is permanent. this pigmentation is permanent.

:20:22. > :20:23.this pigmentation is permanent. this pigmentation is permanent.

:20:23. > :20:24.Were you aware of the fact that Were you aware of the fact that

:20:24. > :20:26.Were you aware of the fact that there were black red squirrels

:20:26. > :20:27.there were black red squirrels there were black red squirrels

:20:27. > :20:29.here? I knew they existed and here? I knew they existed and

:20:29. > :20:30.here? I knew they existed and expected to see them dotted around,

:20:30. > :20:31.expected to see them dotted around, expected to see them dotted around,

:20:31. > :20:32.expected to see them dotted around, but to see such a cluster in one

:20:32. > :20:33.but to see such a cluster in one but to see such a cluster in one

:20:33. > :20:35.place was really intriguing. Until place was really intriguing. Until

:20:35. > :20:37.place was really intriguing. Until now they have never been properly

:20:37. > :20:37.now they have never been properly now they have never been properly

:20:37. > :20:40.recorded in the UK. This National recorded in the UK. This National

:20:40. > :20:40.recorded in the UK. This National recorded in the UK. This National

:20:40. > :20:42.Trust site in Formby is one of the Trust site in Formby is one of the

:20:42. > :20:43.Trust site in Formby is one of the last places you can see red

:20:43. > :20:44.last places you can see red last places you can see red

:20:44. > :20:46.squirrels are mainland England, but squirrels are mainland England, but

:20:46. > :20:48.squirrels are mainland England, but squirrels are mainland England, but

:20:48. > :20:49.now, it seems, you can see black now, it seems, you can see black

:20:49. > :20:51.now, it seems, you can see black red squirrels, too. There it is,

:20:51. > :20:54.red squirrels, too. There it is, red squirrels, too. There it is,

:20:54. > :20:56.red squirrels, too. There it is, there it is! Look at that! My

:20:56. > :20:57.there it is! Look at that! My there it is! Look at that! My

:20:57. > :20:58.goodness! I've seen red squirrels goodness! I've seen red squirrels

:20:58. > :20:59.goodness! I've seen red squirrels goodness! I've seen red squirrels

:21:00. > :21:02.maybe 50 or 60 times, I have never maybe 50 or 60 times, I have never

:21:02. > :21:03.maybe 50 or 60 times, I have never maybe 50 or 60 times, I have never

:21:04. > :21:05.seen one as black as that. It's got seen one as black as that. It's got

:21:05. > :21:07.seen one as black as that. It's got seen one as black as that. It's got

:21:07. > :21:08.a jetpack tail and the whole of its a jetpack tail and the whole of its

:21:08. > :21:09.a jetpack tail and the whole of its a jetpack tail and the whole of its

:21:09. > :21:11.black -- back is jet black. But it black -- back is jet black. But it

:21:11. > :21:11.black -- back is jet black. But it has reddish face and reddish limbs,

:21:11. > :21:17.has reddish face and reddish limbs, has reddish face and reddish limbs,

:21:17. > :21:18.I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like it.

:21:19. > :21:20.I've never seen anything like it. This colour variation is not the

:21:20. > :21:22.This colour variation is not the This colour variation is not the

:21:22. > :21:23.same that causes grey squirrels to same that causes grey squirrels to

:21:24. > :21:24.same that causes grey squirrels to be black. The genetic difference in

:21:24. > :21:25.be black. The genetic difference in be black. The genetic difference in

:21:25. > :21:26.be black. The genetic difference in the grey squirrel that is making it

:21:26. > :21:27.the grey squirrel that is making it the grey squirrel that is making it

:21:27. > :21:28.the grey squirrel that is making it black, I looked at the same gene

:21:28. > :21:29.black, I looked at the same gene black, I looked at the same gene

:21:29. > :21:30.black, I looked at the same gene and the red squirrel to see if it

:21:30. > :21:30.and the red squirrel to see if it and the red squirrel to see if it

:21:30. > :21:32.and the red squirrel to see if it is the same gene making it back,

:21:32. > :21:34.is the same gene making it back, is the same gene making it back,

:21:34. > :21:36.but it is different, I'm still but it is different, I'm still

:21:36. > :21:37.searching for that genetic searching for that genetic

:21:37. > :21:38.difference. Although the population difference. Although the population

:21:38. > :21:39.difference. Although the population difference. Although the population

:21:39. > :21:40.of red squirrels in Formby is doing of red squirrels in Formby is doing

:21:40. > :21:41.of red squirrels in Formby is doing of red squirrels in Formby is doing

:21:41. > :21:42.well, it has struggled in the past, well, it has struggled in the past,

:21:42. > :21:43.well, it has struggled in the past, well, it has struggled in the past,

:21:43. > :21:44.and to boost its numbers of sport and to boost its numbers of sport

:21:44. > :21:45.and to boost its numbers of sport that some new squirrels were

:21:45. > :21:48.that some new squirrels were that some new squirrels were

:21:48. > :21:48.brought over from the Continent, brought over from the Continent,

:21:48. > :21:49.brought over from the Continent, which could explain the colour

:21:49. > :21:51.which could explain the colour which could explain the colour

:21:51. > :21:51.variation -- it is thought that variation -- it is thought that

:21:51. > :21:53.variation -- it is thought that some new squirrels were brought all

:21:53. > :21:55.some new squirrels were brought all some new squirrels were brought all

:21:55. > :21:56.the from the Continent. There are the from the Continent. There are

:21:56. > :21:57.the from the Continent. There are stories about introduction of red

:21:57. > :22:00.stories about introduction of red stories about introduction of red

:22:00. > :22:01.squirrels in the 1940s onwards. The squirrels in the 1940s onwards. The

:22:01. > :22:02.squirrels in the 1940s onwards. The feeling is that they are from

:22:02. > :22:04.feeling is that they are from Scandinavian and European stock,

:22:04. > :22:05.Scandinavian and European stock, Scandinavian and European stock,

:22:05. > :22:08.they would be added to the they would be added to the

:22:08. > :22:09.they would be added to the naturally, or at -- colonising red

:22:09. > :22:10.naturally, or at -- colonising red naturally, or at -- colonising red

:22:10. > :22:11.squirrels in the area. But squirrels in the area. But

:22:11. > :22:13.squirrels in the area. But presumably some of the diversity

:22:13. > :22:14.presumably some of the diversity presumably some of the diversity

:22:14. > :22:16.remains in the population. So could remains in the population. So could

:22:16. > :22:17.remains in the population. So could remains in the population. So could

:22:17. > :22:18.it be that the gene causing the it be that the gene causing the

:22:18. > :22:19.it be that the gene causing the darker colour in the mainly

:22:19. > :22:21.darker colour in the mainly European squirrel has become

:22:21. > :22:23.European squirrel has become European squirrel has become

:22:23. > :22:24.prevalent in this will population? prevalent in this will population?

:22:24. > :22:26.prevalent in this will population? -- the mainland European squirrel?

:22:26. > :22:27.-- the mainland European squirrel? -- the mainland European squirrel?

:22:27. > :22:29.Through the morning, we barely see Through the morning, we barely see

:22:29. > :22:30.a true red squirrel. a true red squirrel.

:22:30. > :22:31.a true red squirrel. a true red squirrel.

:22:31. > :22:35.Why do you think this area has the Why do you think this area has the

:22:35. > :22:36.Why do you think this area has the huge variation of colour? I think

:22:36. > :22:37.huge variation of colour? I think huge variation of colour? I think

:22:37. > :22:38.because it is such a small because it is such a small

:22:38. > :22:40.because it is such a small population, maybe the black ones

:22:40. > :22:41.population, maybe the black ones population, maybe the black ones

:22:41. > :22:42.have taken hold. There was maybe have taken hold. There was maybe

:22:42. > :22:44.have taken hold. There was maybe one and its genes have spread

:22:44. > :22:45.one and its genes have spread one and its genes have spread

:22:45. > :22:46.through the population. They can't through the population. They can't

:22:46. > :22:48.interbreed with other squirrels interbreed with other squirrels

:22:48. > :22:49.interbreed with other squirrels because they are cut-off, so they

:22:49. > :22:50.because they are cut-off, so they because they are cut-off, so they

:22:50. > :22:51.are interbreeding and the gene is are interbreeding and the gene is

:22:51. > :22:53.are interbreeding and the gene is are interbreeding and the gene is

:22:53. > :22:54.popping up more and more often. popping up more and more often.

:22:54. > :22:55.popping up more and more often. popping up more and more often.

:22:55. > :22:57.a result, this is why so many One a result, this is why so many One

:22:57. > :22:58.a result, this is why so many One Show viewers thought they were

:22:58. > :22:59.Show viewers thought they were Show viewers thought they were

:22:59. > :23:00.spotting black squirrels in Formby. spotting black squirrels in Formby.

:23:00. > :23:01.spotting black squirrels in Formby. spotting black squirrels in Formby.

:23:02. > :23:02.But instead of being part of the But instead of being part of the

:23:02. > :23:03.But instead of being part of the Gray family, in this part of

:23:03. > :23:07.Gray family, in this part of Gray family, in this part of

:23:07. > :23:08.Merseyside they are truly red. Merseyside they are truly red.

:23:08. > :23:11.Merseyside they are truly red. Merseyside they are truly red.

:23:11. > :23:12.That film is a landmark for The One That film is a landmark for The One

:23:12. > :23:13.That film is a landmark for The One That film is a landmark for The One

:23:13. > :23:14.Show, because in six years are now Show, because in six years are now

:23:14. > :23:16.Show, because in six years are now we have covered every colour

:23:16. > :23:17.we have covered every colour we have covered every colour

:23:17. > :23:20.squirrel there is! That is red squirrel there is! That is red

:23:20. > :23:22.squirrels, grey squirrels, albino squirrels, grey squirrels, albino

:23:22. > :23:26.scrolls, black squirrels, grey- scrolls, black squirrels, grey-

:23:26. > :23:29.black scrolls and red-black black scrolls and red-black

:23:29. > :23:30.black scrolls and red-black squirrels. We're done. Unless a

:23:30. > :23:31.squirrels. We're done. Unless a squirrels. We're done. Unless a

:23:31. > :23:32.green squirrel is found, this could green squirrel is found, this could

:23:32. > :23:33.green squirrel is found, this could green squirrel is found, this could

:23:33. > :23:35.be the last ever scroll film on The be the last ever scroll film on The

:23:35. > :23:37.be the last ever scroll film on The be the last ever scroll film on The

:23:37. > :23:38.be the last ever scroll film on The One Show. Sad news. It is a sad day.

:23:38. > :23:40.One Show. Sad news. It is a sad day. One Show. Sad news. It is a sad day.

:23:40. > :23:41.One Show. Sad news. It is a sad day. If you could just take this for us,

:23:41. > :23:42.If you could just take this for us, If you could just take this for us,

:23:42. > :23:44.If you could just take this for us, Matt. Any last words on behalf of

:23:44. > :23:45.Matt. Any last words on behalf of Matt. Any last words on behalf of

:23:45. > :23:47.squirrel films? If you are feeling squirrel films? If you are feeling

:23:47. > :23:48.squirrel films? If you are feeling really sad, don't, because a

:23:48. > :23:49.really sad, don't, because a really sad, don't, because a

:23:49. > :23:51.really sad, don't, because a squirrel is just a rat with a tail,

:23:51. > :23:53.squirrel is just a rat with a tail, squirrel is just a rat with a tail,

:23:53. > :23:54.let's be honest. Let's take this let's be honest. Let's take this

:23:54. > :23:56.let's be honest. Let's take this little fellow a way. Compose

:23:56. > :23:59.little fellow a way. Compose little fellow a way. Compose

:23:59. > :23:59.ourselves, this is quite a big ourselves, this is quite a big

:23:59. > :24:04.ourselves, this is quite a big ourselves, this is quite a big

:24:04. > :24:07.moment. I used to have a career! moment. I used to have a career!

:24:07. > :24:08.Thank you, Matt. Thank you, Matt.

:24:08. > :24:10.Thank you, Matt. Now, whilst we pull ourselves

:24:10. > :24:12.Now, whilst we pull ourselves Now, whilst we pull ourselves

:24:12. > :24:13.together, here is our hairdresser, together, here is our hairdresser,

:24:13. > :24:14.together, here is our hairdresser, Michael Douglas, cutting it fine at

:24:14. > :24:17.Michael Douglas, cutting it fine at Michael Douglas, cutting it fine at

:24:17. > :24:18.the start of his latest journey. the start of his latest journey.

:24:18. > :24:19.the start of his latest journey. the start of his latest journey.

:24:19. > :24:21.I've been told to come here to the I've been told to come here to the

:24:21. > :24:21.I've been told to come here to the I've been told to come here to the

:24:21. > :24:23.station bright and early to catch a station bright and early to catch a

:24:23. > :24:24.station bright and early to catch a very special train, a train that's

:24:24. > :24:26.very special train, a train that's very special train, a train that's

:24:26. > :24:26.very special train, a train that's going to take me on a magical trip

:24:26. > :24:27.going to take me on a magical trip going to take me on a magical trip

:24:27. > :24:28.going to take me on a magical trip that are never forget. And with all

:24:28. > :24:30.that are never forget. And with all that are never forget. And with all

:24:30. > :24:35.that are never forget. And with all that it can only mean one thing -

:24:35. > :24:36.that it can only mean one thing - that it can only mean one thing -

:24:36. > :24:37.that it can only mean one thing - I'm going to Hogwarts! OK, so it's

:24:37. > :24:39.I'm going to Hogwarts! OK, so it's I'm going to Hogwarts! OK, so it's

:24:39. > :24:41.not the Hogwarts Express, but a not the Hogwarts Express, but a

:24:41. > :24:42.not the Hogwarts Express, but a trip on the famous Settle to

:24:42. > :24:44.trip on the famous Settle to trip on the famous Settle to

:24:44. > :24:45.Carlisle line is still a memorable Carlisle line is still a memorable

:24:45. > :24:47.Carlisle line is still a memorable journey. The Settle to Carlisle

:24:47. > :24:48.journey. The Settle to Carlisle journey. The Settle to Carlisle

:24:48. > :24:48.journey. The Settle to Carlisle line was constructed in the 18 70s

:24:48. > :24:50.line was constructed in the 18 70s line was constructed in the 18 70s

:24:50. > :24:51.line was constructed in the 18 70s to open up a new rail routes into

:24:51. > :24:52.to open up a new rail routes into to open up a new rail routes into

:24:52. > :24:54.Scotland. It runs from the market Scotland. It runs from the market

:24:54. > :24:54.Scotland. It runs from the market town of settle in North Yorkshire

:24:54. > :24:56.town of settle in North Yorkshire town of settle in North Yorkshire

:24:56. > :24:57.right through the Yorkshire Dales right through the Yorkshire Dales

:24:57. > :24:58.right through the Yorkshire Dales and North Pennines to Carlisle in

:24:58. > :24:59.and North Pennines to Carlisle in and North Pennines to Carlisle in

:24:59. > :25:00.Cumbria, and the views from the Cumbria, and the views from the

:25:00. > :25:04.Cumbria, and the views from the carriage are said to be the

:25:04. > :25:06.carriage are said to be the prettiest in Britain. Everybody

:25:06. > :25:06.prettiest in Britain. Everybody prettiest in Britain. Everybody

:25:07. > :25:09.prettiest in Britain. Everybody needs they had done, it is perhaps

:25:09. > :25:10.you! you!

:25:10. > :25:11.you! you!

:25:11. > :25:13.This is the lovely Linda, and she This is the lovely Linda, and she

:25:13. > :25:15.This is the lovely Linda, and she This is the lovely Linda, and she

:25:15. > :25:16.works on this train line. I work on works on this train line. I work on

:25:16. > :25:19.works on this train line. I work on the trollies. What is so special

:25:19. > :25:19.the trollies. What is so special the trollies. What is so special

:25:19. > :25:21.about this particular journey? about this particular journey?

:25:21. > :25:23.about this particular journey? about this particular journey?

:25:23. > :25:24.in a replay is a big part. Their in a replay is a big part. Their

:25:24. > :25:25.in a replay is a big part. Their history, the people. A lot of

:25:25. > :25:27.history, the people. A lot of history, the people. A lot of

:25:27. > :25:28.tourists, a lot of day-trippers. tourists, a lot of day-trippers.

:25:28. > :25:29.tourists, a lot of day-trippers. One thing I notice more than

:25:29. > :25:30.One thing I notice more than One thing I notice more than

:25:30. > :25:32.One thing I notice more than anything is how chatty it gets on

:25:32. > :25:33.anything is how chatty it gets on anything is how chatty it gets on

:25:33. > :25:33.this drain. It's a rural this drain. It's a rural

:25:33. > :25:35.this drain. It's a rural environment and there are no

:25:35. > :25:37.environment and there are no environment and there are no

:25:37. > :25:38.pressures of the day-to-day life of pressures of the day-to-day life of

:25:38. > :25:39.pressures of the day-to-day life of commuting. The hall trolley looks a

:25:39. > :25:40.commuting. The hall trolley looks a commuting. The hall trolley looks a

:25:40. > :25:41.commuting. The hall trolley looks a bit wobbly and I always think you

:25:41. > :25:42.bit wobbly and I always think you bit wobbly and I always think you

:25:42. > :25:44.would spill tea or something. Have would spill tea or something. Have

:25:44. > :25:46.would spill tea or something. Have would spill tea or something. Have

:25:46. > :25:48.you done that? You must have done? you done that? You must have done?

:25:48. > :25:50.you done that? You must have done? I have not! That's absolutely

:25:50. > :25:54.I have not! That's absolutely I have not! That's absolutely

:25:54. > :25:56.lovely, thank you. I'm very happy. lovely, thank you. I'm very happy.

:25:56. > :25:58.lovely, thank you. I'm very happy. That there is Yorkshire's answer to

:25:58. > :26:03.That there is Yorkshire's answer to Table Mountain, otherwise known

:26:03. > :26:03.as... as...

:26:03. > :26:05.as... There are nine stations between

:26:05. > :26:06.There are nine stations between There are nine stations between

:26:06. > :26:07.Settle and Carlisle, but the whole Settle and Carlisle, but the whole

:26:07. > :26:10.Settle and Carlisle, but the whole line was once seriously threatened

:26:10. > :26:11.line was once seriously threatened line was once seriously threatened

:26:11. > :26:12.with closure by British Rail and with closure by British Rail and

:26:12. > :26:14.with closure by British Rail and with closure by British Rail and

:26:14. > :26:15.only a nationwide campaign saved it. only a nationwide campaign saved it.

:26:15. > :26:15.only a nationwide campaign saved it. only a nationwide campaign saved it.

:26:15. > :26:16.This is David, and you have worked This is David, and you have worked

:26:17. > :26:19.This is David, and you have worked This is David, and you have worked

:26:19. > :26:20.on the train lines for a long time? on the train lines for a long time?

:26:21. > :26:22.on the train lines for a long time? on the train lines for a long time?

:26:22. > :26:23.45 years in the railways. In the 45 years in the railways. In the

:26:23. > :26:24.45 years in the railways. In the 1980s, the line nearly closed

:26:24. > :26:26.1980s, the line nearly closed 1980s, the line nearly closed

:26:26. > :26:27.1980s, the line nearly closed altogether? It did. British Rail

:26:27. > :26:28.altogether? It did. British Rail altogether? It did. British Rail

:26:28. > :26:30.thought it was surplus to their thought it was surplus to their

:26:30. > :26:31.thought it was surplus to their requirements, that is when the big

:26:31. > :26:33.requirements, that is when the big requirements, that is when the big

:26:33. > :26:34.fight started. It became quite fight started. It became quite

:26:34. > :26:35.fight started. It became quite National, people from travelled all

:26:35. > :26:36.National, people from travelled all National, people from travelled all

:26:36. > :26:39.National, people from travelled all over the country and the world to

:26:39. > :26:40.over the country and the world to over the country and the world to

:26:40. > :26:41.travel on the line. There is travel on the line. There is

:26:41. > :26:42.travel on the line. There is something brilliant, it feels like

:26:42. > :26:44.something brilliant, it feels like something brilliant, it feels like

:26:44. > :26:45.something brilliant, it feels like you have gone back in time. It is

:26:45. > :26:46.you have gone back in time. It is you have gone back in time. It is

:26:46. > :26:48.you have gone back in time. It is quite -- it has hardly changed from

:26:48. > :26:50.quite -- it has hardly changed from quite -- it has hardly changed from

:26:50. > :26:50.quite -- it has hardly changed from quite -- it has hardly changed from

:26:50. > :26:53.the 1950s. Do you have a man in a the 1950s. Do you have a man in a

:26:53. > :26:55.the 1950s. Do you have a man in a box pulling levers? Yes. In that

:26:55. > :27:00.box pulling levers? Yes. In that box pulling levers? Yes. In that

:27:00. > :27:01.box pulling levers? Yes. In that box over there. Take a look.It's

:27:01. > :27:02.box over there. Take a look.It's box over there. Take a look.It's

:27:02. > :27:04.box over there. Take a look.It's all right. Very good, thank you.

:27:04. > :27:14.all right. Very good, thank you. all right. Very good, thank you.

:27:14. > :27:14.

:27:14. > :27:16.This 72 mile was certainly a feat This 72 mile was certainly a feat

:27:16. > :27:17.This 72 mile was certainly a feat of engineering worth saving. It

:27:17. > :27:18.of engineering worth saving. It of engineering worth saving. It

:27:18. > :27:20.of engineering worth saving. It took 6000 men more than six years

:27:20. > :27:21.took 6000 men more than six years took 6000 men more than six years

:27:21. > :27:22.took 6000 men more than six years to construct. This is true, he is

:27:22. > :27:24.to construct. This is true, he is to construct. This is true, he is

:27:24. > :27:26.the manager of this wonderful train the manager of this wonderful train

:27:26. > :27:27.the manager of this wonderful train line. It is fantastic, it gets

:27:27. > :27:28.line. It is fantastic, it gets line. It is fantastic, it gets

:27:28. > :27:29.under your skin, you start to under your skin, you start to

:27:29. > :27:31.under your skin, you start to believe in it. Especially when you

:27:32. > :27:33.believe in it. Especially when you believe in it. Especially when you

:27:33. > :27:34.know the history. Probably one of know the history. Probably one of

:27:34. > :27:35.know the history. Probably one of the things you have to realise

:27:35. > :27:36.the things you have to realise the things you have to realise

:27:36. > :27:40.the things you have to realise about the line is the cost in human

:27:40. > :27:40.about the line is the cost in human about the line is the cost in human

:27:40. > :27:43.about the line is the cost in human life to build it. Reports very, it

:27:43. > :27:45.life to build it. Reports very, it life to build it. Reports very, it

:27:45. > :27:45.is in the hundreds, mainly Irish is in the hundreds, mainly Irish

:27:45. > :27:46.is in the hundreds, mainly Irish navvies died building the railway,

:27:46. > :27:47.navvies died building the railway, navvies died building the railway,

:27:47. > :27:48.navvies died building the railway, navvies died building the railway,

:27:48. > :27:50.so it is a bit of a living memorial so it is a bit of a living memorial

:27:50. > :27:52.so it is a bit of a living memorial so it is a bit of a living memorial

:27:52. > :27:53.to them. What about the weather?We to them. What about the weather?We

:27:53. > :27:56.to them. What about the weather?We to them. What about the weather?We

:27:56. > :27:57.get minus 15, we get the floods. get minus 15, we get the floods.

:27:57. > :27:58.get minus 15, we get the floods. The diesel through it starts to

:27:58. > :27:59.The diesel through it starts to The diesel through it starts to

:27:59. > :28:01.The diesel through it starts to coagulate a little as minus 15, but

:28:01. > :28:01.coagulate a little as minus 15, but coagulate a little as minus 15, but

:28:01. > :28:04.coagulate a little as minus 15, but we are still going. What do you

:28:04. > :28:05.we are still going. What do you we are still going. What do you

:28:05. > :28:06.think? That looks amazing! The think? That looks amazing! The

:28:06. > :28:08.think? That looks amazing! The think? That looks amazing! The

:28:08. > :28:10.frame is lovely but the picture is lousy!

:28:10. > :28:11.lousy! lousy!

:28:11. > :28:12.This spectacular rail journey lasts This spectacular rail journey lasts

:28:12. > :28:13.This spectacular rail journey lasts This spectacular rail journey lasts

:28:13. > :28:13.less than two hours, and before I less than two hours, and before I

:28:13. > :28:16.less than two hours, and before I know it, we have arrived in

:28:16. > :28:17.know it, we have arrived in know it, we have arrived in

:28:17. > :28:18.Carlisle. The Settle to Carlisle Carlisle. The Settle to Carlisle

:28:18. > :28:20.Carlisle. The Settle to Carlisle line has transformed itself into

:28:20. > :28:20.line has transformed itself into line has transformed itself into

:28:21. > :28:21.something quite magical, a busy something quite magical, a busy

:28:21. > :28:22.something quite magical, a busy something quite magical, a busy

:28:22. > :28:23.line that is as much a tourist line that is as much a tourist

:28:23. > :28:25.line that is as much a tourist attraction as a vital service to

:28:25. > :28:26.attraction as a vital service to attraction as a vital service to

:28:26. > :28:31.attraction as a vital service to its commuters. And I am going right

:28:31. > :28:32.back again. back again.

:28:32. > :28:33.back again. back again.

:28:33. > :28:34.That has to be the most scenic That has to be the most scenic

:28:34. > :28:35.That has to be the most scenic That has to be the most scenic

:28:35. > :28:36.place ever to have your hair cut, place ever to have your hair cut,

:28:36. > :28:38.place ever to have your hair cut, normally you just look in the

:28:38. > :28:39.normally you just look in the normally you just look in the

:28:39. > :28:40.normally you just look in the mirror. When you have a guest with

:28:40. > :28:41.mirror. When you have a guest with mirror. When you have a guest with

:28:41. > :28:42.mirror. When you have a guest with alopecia on the show, do you always

:28:42. > :28:46.alopecia on the show, do you always alopecia on the show, do you always

:28:46. > :28:48.do items about cutting has? Always! do items about cutting has? Always!

:28:48. > :28:51.do items about cutting has? Always! do items about cutting has? Always!

:28:51. > :28:52.It is quite an important day today It is quite an important day today

:28:52. > :28:56.It is quite an important day today for somebody. Somebody is 39. Happy

:28:56. > :28:56.for somebody. Somebody is 39. Happy for somebody. Somebody is 39. Happy

:28:56. > :28:58.birthday, Matt Lucas! We have birthday, Matt Lucas! We have

:28:58. > :29:00.birthday, Matt Lucas! We have birthday, Matt Lucas! We have

:29:00. > :29:03.brought you a cake! Look at that! brought you a cake! Look at that!

:29:04. > :29:05.brought you a cake! Look at that! brought you a cake! Look at that!

:29:05. > :29:08.That is a real cake. Man, I love That is a real cake. Man, I love

:29:08. > :29:09.That is a real cake. Man, I love the cake! How wonderful, thank you.

:29:09. > :29:12.the cake! How wonderful, thank you. the cake! How wonderful, thank you.

:29:12. > :29:13.And that is anatomically correct, And that is anatomically correct,

:29:13. > :29:15.And that is anatomically correct, sadly. What a lovely thing, thank

:29:15. > :29:16.sadly. What a lovely thing, thank sadly. What a lovely thing, thank

:29:16. > :29:18.sadly. What a lovely thing, thank you very much. Have a lovely night,

:29:18. > :29:19.you very much. Have a lovely night, you very much. Have a lovely night,

:29:19. > :29:20.happy birthday. You can see the happy birthday. You can see the

:29:20. > :29:22.happy birthday. You can see the match figures Awards at 10:35pm on

:29:22. > :29:23.match figures Awards at 10:35pm on match figures Awards at 10:35pm on