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:00:18. > :00:27.Welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. We have been

:00:28. > :00:31.playing minigolf out there all afternoon, which is the reason why

:00:32. > :00:37.he is like this, because he got a hole in one. Of course he did! There

:00:38. > :00:44.was a random hole, straight in the hole, but to be fair, here is Alex

:00:45. > :00:51.on shot number 482. We will slow mow it, it does hit the hole. That is an

:00:52. > :00:55.inn, it's a hole in one right there. Are you sure? Apparently the player

:00:56. > :01:00.who gets a hole in one has to buy the round. Well done, Matt,

:01:01. > :01:08.congratulations. It was minigolf, so I've got some many drinks. Very

:01:09. > :01:11.cute, a bit tight of you! Cheers! LAUGHTER

:01:12. > :01:15.Don't be shy. What the heck is in there? The golf course is a treat

:01:16. > :01:19.for tonight was my guest, a golf loving comedian and panel show

:01:20. > :01:24.writer and regular. She's a former lawyer, cat fanatic and is followed

:01:25. > :01:30.around by an imaginary clap. Confused? We explain it. Let's

:01:31. > :01:34.welcome to the show Susan Calman. Would you like a mini drink, Susan?

:01:35. > :01:41.It's weird, I'm not sure what's in it. There we are!

:01:42. > :01:46.LAUGHTER I was always told not to accept

:01:47. > :01:52.drinks from strange men! Not quite the real thing. Carry on. We heard

:01:53. > :01:56.you approach life like a lorry because as Matt said, you were a

:01:57. > :02:01.lawyer for seven years so any caveats you'd like to put into The

:02:02. > :02:07.One Show contracts? I'd like to have a go at the minigolf later on, so if

:02:08. > :02:09.you can arrange for the sun to continue to shine because it feels

:02:10. > :02:13.like I'm on my summer holidays, it's lovely and warm. As it was lovely

:02:14. > :02:22.weather, that's why we set it up. Perfect. I golfed for 25 years. You

:02:23. > :02:26.will beat the Baker then. Hole in one later. A beautiful part of the

:02:27. > :02:32.world you are from, if you did take an afternoon drive up from Susan's

:02:33. > :02:36.place from Glasgow, to Stirling, to Perth, on the A9, the A9, it's

:02:37. > :02:41.beautiful, carry on and you might eventually decide to stop in

:02:42. > :02:45.Aviemore and the Cairngorms with its beautiful rivers, gorgeous lochs,

:02:46. > :02:50.snowcapped mountains, shall I go on? It sounds lovely but with all that

:02:51. > :02:54.water everywhere, why are some disgruntled customers of Scottish

:02:55. > :03:00.Water complaining that there's not a drop to drink?

:03:01. > :03:04.Now there may be a platter of the bottled stuff out there, but most of

:03:05. > :03:07.the water we drink stump -- still comes out of the tap, but how would

:03:08. > :03:13.you feel if your supplier was switched and you found the taste of

:03:14. > :03:18.your new water undrinkable? Well, some Scottish Highlanders say that's

:03:19. > :03:23.precisely what's happened. So I've come to Kincraig to talk about tap

:03:24. > :03:28.water with Laura Ross. What's it like when you take a drink from the

:03:29. > :03:34.tap? I don't take a drink from the tap anymore. It doesn't taste right.

:03:35. > :03:38.It almost has a texture to it. Does it smell? It's very chlorinated,

:03:39. > :03:46.people say their house smells like a swimming pool when they run a shower

:03:47. > :03:49.or bath. The problem dates back four years, when Scottish Water opened

:03:50. > :03:52.their treatment works at Aviemore to cope with drop growing demand.

:03:53. > :03:55.People whose waters obliges to come from the nearby loch were switched

:03:56. > :03:59.to water from underground boreholes and while 98% of the 10,000

:04:00. > :04:04.households affected seemed content with the change, the remaining 2%

:04:05. > :04:13.over 200 of them, work was enough to complain to Scottish water -- Water.

:04:14. > :04:18.What have Scottish Water said? It's safe, nothing about palatability,

:04:19. > :04:22.but it is safe. Some claim to notice a chemical tanker once every three

:04:23. > :04:26.years. Farmer John says it's not just people who can taste the

:04:27. > :04:30.difference. The dogs, cats, the horse, the horse did not like the

:04:31. > :04:34.water at all, it was the week before he would drink it the cows and the

:04:35. > :04:38.sheep inside at lambing time, when they came in, they were not keen on

:04:39. > :04:43.drinking the stuff. They are obviously smelling something in the

:04:44. > :04:50.water that we can't. Have a drink now. OK. So are my taste buds as

:04:51. > :05:00.discerning as a Highland Council? I can smell a slightly chlorine smell,

:05:01. > :05:05.swimming baths. I mean, it's not terrible, it's not very nice, but

:05:06. > :05:09.it's not terrible. It's probably better today. It feels like it's

:05:10. > :05:15.leaving a film on your tongue. It's got a sort of roughness about it

:05:16. > :05:20.somehow. So much for my taste buds. I reckon we need a few more human

:05:21. > :05:27.guinea pigs. It's time for a One Show experiment, of a highly

:05:28. > :05:30.unscientific kind. We've come 80 miles down the road to Perth, the

:05:31. > :05:36.our taste test. We've got three different types of water, a is from

:05:37. > :05:43.Aviemore, the is Greater Manchester tap water and the is bottled spring

:05:44. > :05:50.water. That one doesn't taste the same. At that one is more metallic

:05:51. > :05:53.than that one. Interesting. Surely water is just water? There's

:05:54. > :06:01.something different about this one. This is the worst. I quite like that

:06:02. > :06:09.one. Just different to two, I wouldn't say it's unpleasant. This

:06:10. > :06:13.one is better. Siebe this is my favourite. Would you be having if it

:06:14. > :06:19.came out of your tabs? No, definitely not. This tastes like

:06:20. > :06:28.water. There all the same. Stale and musty. I don't like it. What's wrong

:06:29. > :06:34.with it? Which is the one you like the least of those three? That one.

:06:35. > :06:38.He doesn't like it. We got 24 taste testers to say which water they

:06:39. > :06:43.liked least. While three couldn't tell them apart, in 11 chose

:06:44. > :06:46.Aviemore, six Manchester, and four the bottled stuff, so it seems there

:06:47. > :06:52.is something about the Aviemore water that's not to everyone's

:06:53. > :06:55.taste. And Dr Frank Mair, lecturer in inorganic chemistry at Manchester

:06:56. > :06:59.University, puts it down to the chlorine. The company supplying the

:07:00. > :07:03.water has a duty of care to ensure it's safe to drink and the most

:07:04. > :07:06.common way of doing this is the bubble chlorine through it. There

:07:07. > :07:08.will be some people who are particularly sensitive to the

:07:09. > :07:13.chlorine in the water and some people who are less though. Scottish

:07:14. > :07:16.Water's just a service boss says they are taking customer complaint

:07:17. > :07:21.seriously. The water we supply is safe, high-quality and 100%

:07:22. > :07:25.compliant with strict drinking water quality standards. But we do

:07:26. > :07:29.recognise there's a small proportion of the customers who don't

:07:30. > :07:33.appreciate the taste of the water that we provide, so we are looking

:07:34. > :07:38.to improve the processes we used to produce that water. They aim to

:07:39. > :07:43.reduce chlorine levels by adding a dash of ammonia to the mix, a

:07:44. > :07:47.process they say is widely practised throughout the UK. Let's hope this

:07:48. > :07:53.time it's to everyone's taste, humans and animals.

:07:54. > :07:56.We can only hope the taste of chlorine and ammonia is more to

:07:57. > :08:02.their liking, Lucy joins us. Would you like a mini drink? Yes. We have

:08:03. > :08:07.found out its nonalcoholic beer. Which would explain. On that theme

:08:08. > :08:12.of ammonia in the water, what does it do, and what will it taste like?

:08:13. > :08:15.Ammonia can counteract the taste of chlorine, but this is just a

:08:16. > :08:19.proposal at the moment because it hasn't been signed off by public

:08:20. > :08:22.health officials and they would introduce it in monitored doses and

:08:23. > :08:27.it's worth pointing out that public water supply is more stringently

:08:28. > :08:32.regulated than bottled water. It's very, very strict. It's true, isn't

:08:33. > :08:39.it, that water does taste different in various parts of the UK. Yes, it

:08:40. > :08:43.does. It's not just me. It's not just you, or my mum, who says that.

:08:44. > :08:47.In the north it's mainly surface water so it's been filtered through

:08:48. > :08:51.soil and trees and it gives it an earthy taste, and in the south it's

:08:52. > :08:54.primarily from boreholes so there is a mineral taste to it. But it can

:08:55. > :08:59.depend on lots of different things. If you are nearer the treatment

:09:00. > :09:03.facility, then it will probably taste, it's more likely to taste

:09:04. > :09:09.strongly of chlorine, and temperature can also affect our

:09:10. > :09:13.perception. It's seasonal? Seasonal, when reserves are low in the summer

:09:14. > :09:16.sometimes your water will be shipped in from another county and then we

:09:17. > :09:19.really notice as consumers, but interestingly research shows we

:09:20. > :09:24.prefer the taste of water that we grew up with so my family from the

:09:25. > :09:28.North have never liked the water in the south, even though they've lived

:09:29. > :09:31.there for ages, so it's about our perception really. Would you like to

:09:32. > :09:36.know in the UK where has been adjudicated to have the best water?

:09:37. > :09:44.This is a BBC study. Puke -- viewers are leaving -- Linighan for this

:09:45. > :09:53.one. Country, the blend of vegetal and salty water was the best.

:09:54. > :09:59.Vegetal. Glasgow... Yes. You did well, big bodied and smooth. That's

:10:00. > :10:03.what I say every time I have a glass of water, I swirl it around and have

:10:04. > :10:08.a sniff of the water in Glasgow is delicious actuary. Southwark, the

:10:09. > :10:16.panel said it unremarkable, sorry, Southwark! We were talking earlier

:10:17. > :10:21.about filters, I had one earlier but... It does make a difference, it

:10:22. > :10:24.must do? It can help with that mineral taste if you are in a hard

:10:25. > :10:27.water area and it can reduce chlorine taste as well. Some of that

:10:28. > :10:31.may partly be because the water is left standing in the jug, so the

:10:32. > :10:36.chlorine dissipates naturally. If you have a filter, make sure you

:10:37. > :10:44.change it regularly. I look forward to filter changed a! It's a high

:10:45. > :10:48.day! She's not kidding! Brilliant, thank you, Lucy. A change of career

:10:49. > :10:52.can make a huge difference to someone's life, full season as we

:10:53. > :10:56.said earlier, it was sobbing a career in law for a career in

:10:57. > :11:04.comedy. The lady in the next film was all set to become a typist, when

:11:05. > :11:09.a different door open for her and that door opened into a fabulous new

:11:10. > :11:13.world. Filled with Lycra, high kicks and jazz. We still got it! I'm

:11:14. > :11:18.Debbie Moore, founder and owner of one of the biggest and best-known

:11:19. > :11:21.dance centres in the world, Pineapple Dance Studios here in the

:11:22. > :11:27.heart of Covent Garden. I opened the business in 1979, when disco

:11:28. > :11:36.Friedrich -- disco fever was at its height. I left grammar school in

:11:37. > :11:41.Manchester at the age of 15, with no qualifications, and planned on being

:11:42. > :11:44.a typist. But winning a modelling competition thankfully changed all

:11:45. > :11:50.that. I moved to London, I modelled during the day, and I danced in the

:11:51. > :11:57.Covent Garden dance Centre at night. # People keep on loving #.

:11:58. > :12:03.And one day in 1978 summer I noticed they were closing, it was terrible.

:12:04. > :12:07.I thought there's an opportunity, I found an old pineapple warehouse and

:12:08. > :12:12.that's why it's called Pineapple and I just say thank god it wasn't a

:12:13. > :12:17.banana warehouse! So I took a gamble, with a ?30,000 bank loan.

:12:18. > :12:27.And a second mortgage on my house. It was a massive risk. My vision was

:12:28. > :12:29.offering dance studio for all abilities, where people could walk

:12:30. > :12:34.off the street and into a class without an appointment and nobody

:12:35. > :12:41.else was doing this. # Play that funky music #.

:12:42. > :12:46.We opened in June 1979, right from the beginning I knew that it was

:12:47. > :12:50.going to be a great success. I was responding to a need and the dancers

:12:51. > :12:55.flocked in. Not everyone welcomed the new disco kids on the block. The

:12:56. > :12:59.Royal Ballet were just around the corner. But their dancers were only

:13:00. > :13:04.allowed to train in their studios. One of their young stars, however,

:13:05. > :13:09.persuaded them to change this. His name was Wayne Sleep, and he brought

:13:10. > :13:13.the ballet world into my studios. There were all these ex-ballerina is

:13:14. > :13:16.coming to teach what they knew out of years of the Royal Ballet and

:13:17. > :13:21.being able to handle men knowledge, this was the only place they could

:13:22. > :13:28.come in London. -- hand on their knowledge. And Wayne always helps

:13:29. > :13:32.remind me of my priorities. You said, I'm so busy with paperwork,

:13:33. > :13:37.all of a sudden you moved some papers away and took your track

:13:38. > :13:44.pants off, down to your jockstrap and got onto the desk. And danced.

:13:45. > :13:48.You all looked so depressed! It was memorable. My vision for the dance

:13:49. > :13:52.studio have become a reality, but the modelling me wanted to add more

:13:53. > :13:58.style and replace the sweaty old nylon with a new fabric, cotton

:13:59. > :14:02.Lycra. But to expand, you need capital, so in 1982I floated the

:14:03. > :14:08.company as a plc on the stock exchange. I was the first

:14:09. > :14:13.businesswoman to do this. It took a model from Manchester with a dance

:14:14. > :14:16.studio to be the first woman to go public. That was what was

:14:17. > :14:21.astonishing. I didn't know I was making history. We were top of the

:14:22. > :14:24.News and front page of all the newspapers, and so it was quite an

:14:25. > :14:30.extraordinary day. Everything was changing. But -- footless tights had

:14:31. > :14:35.become leggings and my dance fashion was on the high street. Celebrities

:14:36. > :14:40.became regulars and Pineapple had become more than just a dance

:14:41. > :14:46.studio. It was now a brand. One that's lasted to the present day.

:14:47. > :14:49.# Because the players want to play, play, play #.

:14:50. > :14:53.And now it's time to share my life lessons with the next generation. I

:14:54. > :14:59.is to be going forward all the time, when I think my first famous person

:15:00. > :15:04.ever that came here was Freddie Mercury, but now we have Justin

:15:05. > :15:10.Bieber. There's been many times when things have gone really wrong. My

:15:11. > :15:14.daughter, when she was ten, she had a spinal haemorrhage and they didn't

:15:15. > :15:19.think she was going to survive, so I had a very good team of people who

:15:20. > :15:23.could keep Pineapple going. But you've got to be able to know you've

:15:24. > :15:29.got people that you have trained and built up that can carry on and make

:15:30. > :15:33.it happen. We only get today once, and make the most of it.

:15:34. > :15:38.APPLAUSE We're joined by some dancers from

:15:39. > :15:42.pineapple Studios, not too far away. Thanks for popping in. We'll have a

:15:43. > :15:47.boogie later. Susan, we know you from panel shows like have I got

:15:48. > :15:50.News for use, and Radio Four, but your passport it's got that you are

:15:51. > :15:56.a writer, which you are, and you've brought this book out, called Cheer

:15:57. > :16:01.Up Love. The book conference depression head on. Yes, it does.

:16:02. > :16:07.What was a process like of opening up and getting it down on paper? I

:16:08. > :16:13.have depression and I see that in quite a normal fashion, and with the

:16:14. > :16:18.book and writing, I have depression, it becomes a normal thing to see.

:16:19. > :16:24.You don't need to sit everyone down and say I've got something to tell

:16:25. > :16:28.you, I hurt my shoulder the other day, I can say that a lot of people

:16:29. > :16:51.are so frightened of saying they have depression.

:16:52. > :16:57.One of the things that has helped me is to admit it and talk about it and

:16:58. > :17:00.what's surprising is when you say you have it the amount of people who

:17:01. > :17:04.go, I've been depressed as well, I've just never told anyone about

:17:05. > :17:09.it, so it's really part of the more we talk about it, the more we smile

:17:10. > :17:13.about it, the better it's going to get.

:17:14. > :17:21.They are. They are frightened. The tag line is Adventures In Depression

:17:22. > :17:27.With The Crab Of Hate. Now, what are you talking about? Well, Winston

:17:28. > :17:32.Churchill talked about his black dog that he had and that is a common

:17:33. > :17:39.description of depression. Mine is the crab of hate. And what it is is,

:17:40. > :17:47.you crawl is at my back and whispered -- he crawls up my back

:17:48. > :17:53.and whispered into my ear. It is just easier to say to my wife, the

:17:54. > :17:58.crab of Haiti's here. To say you are depressed is quite difficult. So I

:17:59. > :18:03.am trying to personify it as an animal. -- the crab of hate is here.

:18:04. > :18:08.It makes it easier to talk about it so it makes it easier for me to say,

:18:09. > :18:13.I am down because the crab of hate is sitting on my back. And it is

:18:14. > :18:19.always there but you can't see it but I know it is there, talking to

:18:20. > :18:24.me all the time. So who do you hope read this book? It is -- is it those

:18:25. > :18:31.feeling like you do or to help family members feeling the same way?

:18:32. > :18:37.It is for those feeling depression but also those who live with us,

:18:38. > :18:41.work with us, are with us. Because hopefully this will give an insight

:18:42. > :18:44.into what it is like and some of the techniques I've developed with my

:18:45. > :18:50.wife and my friends if I am depressed. Because I've embraced it.

:18:51. > :18:54.It is a positive thing, this book. It is a positive thing about

:18:55. > :18:59.depression because I am on top of it. And even that title, Cheer Up

:19:00. > :19:05.Love, that is some advice as well, because you say, that is not the way

:19:06. > :19:11.to deal with it. Yes. The worst thing in the world is somebody

:19:12. > :19:18.saying, "Cheer up, love, it might never happen". And you are feeling

:19:19. > :19:23.like, "It has". You can't just Cheer up. If you could none of us would be

:19:24. > :19:28.depressed. And it is not about being nasty to anybody trying to help. It

:19:29. > :19:33.is just to say here are some cool things. For example, saying, how can

:19:34. > :19:39.I help? And open question can be a really positive thing to help people

:19:40. > :19:44.out. It is that anybody. Young people, because I don't want to feel

:19:45. > :19:46.anybody as lonely as I did when I was a teenager. So not just

:19:47. > :19:51.oppressed people sitting in a corner of a book shop reading it on their

:19:52. > :19:56.own. It is for everybody to read, to learn more about depression. Like

:19:57. > :19:59.Susan said, a really important message but hell areas at the same

:20:00. > :20:06.time. Cheer Up Love: Adventures In Depression With The Crab Of Hate by

:20:07. > :20:12.Susan is out today. If I had ?1, if I gave you ?1, what would you spend

:20:13. > :20:19.it on? I would go to a pounds shop and try to buy a ball gown. Cola

:20:20. > :20:28.bottles. No, I've changed my mind. A tug boat from ace graveyard.

:20:29. > :20:34.Amazing! I would do the same. -- a scrap yard. Watch this.

:20:35. > :20:38.This is the Danny. A small but incredibly powerful tug boat. She

:20:39. > :20:43.was part of a fleet that guided tour go along the Manchester Ship Canal

:20:44. > :20:51.to the great seaport of Liverpool. -- guided pub boats. She was left to

:20:52. > :20:58.rust into oblivion. But in 2004 the Danny was bought for just ?1. The

:20:59. > :21:05.buyer was down, a modern day tug boat captain himself. -- was Daniel.

:21:06. > :21:11.What on earth possessed you to purchase the Danny? Other than that

:21:12. > :21:14.your name is the same! It certainly wasn't me being self-indulgent!

:21:15. > :21:18.Somebody mentioned to me that the Danny was being scrapped. So I went

:21:19. > :21:25.down on the Friday afternoon and they asked me how much money I had

:21:26. > :21:31.so we agreed on ?1 to purchase it. It is at the top of the national

:21:32. > :21:37.register for his ships. I thought she would be restored in about two

:21:38. > :21:40.or three years. But it has taken him 12 years to get her shipshape for

:21:41. > :21:46.her return to the water and he had to raise ?4 million to do it. The

:21:47. > :21:49.painters and decorators are still on board and she is supposed to be

:21:50. > :22:00.sailing for the first time in 30 years tonight! So, it is all hands

:22:01. > :22:05.on deck. Have you got it? Yeah! It is quite warm down here. You have

:22:06. > :22:10.got layers on! This restoration project wouldn't have been possible

:22:11. > :22:16.without the volunteer workforce who have given 100,000 hours of their

:22:17. > :22:22.time to see the Danny float again. Stuart is the volunteer operations

:22:23. > :22:27.director. I arrived in 2009 after retiring from 40 odd years on the

:22:28. > :22:32.river as a pilot. I was sloshing around, not knowing what to do. When

:22:33. > :22:39.you get a result from volunteer efforts like this, it really is

:22:40. > :22:44.quite startling. At 113 years old, the Danny has seen a fair bit of

:22:45. > :22:49.history and had a few makeovers. After the First World War, can our

:22:50. > :22:55.traffic declined as more freight was transported by road and train. --

:22:56. > :23:00.Canal traffic. So Danny became a VIP passenger to boat, designed to be a

:23:01. > :23:04.miniature version of an ocean liner. She even hosted royal visitors such

:23:05. > :23:10.as Prince George of Denmark on his trip down the Manchester Ship Canal

:23:11. > :23:16.in 1949. So, how do the volunteers feel about tonight's relaunch? Is

:23:17. > :23:21.going to be a proud moment, it's going to be good. Miraculously, it's

:23:22. > :23:26.all come right and here we are today, the old lady is in steam and

:23:27. > :23:29.we are ready to go. We have a tight window to make our crossing from

:23:30. > :23:35.here in Birkenhead to the dock in Liverpool. We need to set off at

:23:36. > :23:40.about -- about 7:30pm tonight but when it comes to dealing with

:23:41. > :23:46.100-year-old technology, nothing is simple. But with just hours to go,

:23:47. > :23:50.there is a major setback. The steam powered steering has jammed. So

:23:51. > :23:56.although we can take to the water, we cannot steer the Danny. Luckily,

:23:57. > :24:03.another tug boat is on hand to give some gentle guidance and a bit of a

:24:04. > :24:11.shock. And we are off. -- a bit of a push. How does it feel now we have

:24:12. > :24:15.finally set off? A big relief. She is 99.5% complete. It was always

:24:16. > :24:19.going to be tight. It is the best view in the world. It has been a

:24:20. > :24:25.real honour to be here on the boat as the Danny sets sail after such a

:24:26. > :24:29.long time. And as she comes into the Albert Dock in Liverpool for the

:24:30. > :24:37.first time in over 30 years, a small crowd is waiting to greet her. And

:24:38. > :24:47.we have arrived! HORN BLOWS.

:24:48. > :24:52.She will soon be carrying passengers across the Mersey once again.

:24:53. > :24:55.Do you know what? That is what the one show is all about. Passionate

:24:56. > :25:01.people doing what they can for our heritage. -- The One Show. You may

:25:02. > :25:07.remember Paul Mayhew Archer, the writer of The Vicar Of Dibley. He

:25:08. > :25:11.recently shared his experience of living with Parkinson's and he was

:25:12. > :25:15.keen to make another film for us. As he considers the prospect of

:25:16. > :25:20.retirement, we have set him to work again. Yes. He is not the only one

:25:21. > :25:24.with ideas of what to do when he says goodbye to the nine to five.

:25:25. > :25:30.President Obama has also been giving this some thought.

:25:31. > :25:37.He is about to go from Commander in Chief to couch commander! What am I

:25:38. > :25:42.going to do in DC for two years? I can't go every day to London? Why

:25:43. > :25:47.don't you volunteer to work for one of the teams around here? You love

:25:48. > :25:51.sports. So, Barack Obama is thinking about

:25:52. > :25:55.retirement and so am I, but what does retirement mean these days? Is

:25:56. > :26:03.it joy and delight or years and years of loneliness and boredom?

:26:04. > :26:07.Here is the beauty of the whole thing. You have all the time in the

:26:08. > :26:15.world to figure this out. You can be used for a while. You can have a

:26:16. > :26:21.beer at 11:30am! -- you can be you. I wake up in the morning and think,

:26:22. > :26:29.what should I do today? So I started to cook and bake... We've done

:26:30. > :26:32.Cambodia, Italy, Peru, Australia. You must surrender there are only

:26:33. > :26:39.9000 people playing the game and are used to be in the top thousand! In

:26:40. > :26:47.the world! -- you must we member. You must do more! More, more, more!

:26:48. > :26:51.I ended up doing things I was never expecting to do. Grandchildren. I'm

:26:52. > :26:58.one of the parents who has looked after them since they were babies so

:26:59. > :27:03.my daughter could go back to work. No? Honey, enough, enough! Why don't

:27:04. > :27:12.you talk to somebody? I've got to go. And with more time together,

:27:13. > :27:17.will love blossom once again? I threatened to give up golf at one

:27:18. > :27:27.stage. Carol said, you will get out of the house and I don't want you

:27:28. > :27:30.under my feet again! Quite enjoy being together. We've only been

:27:31. > :27:35.married for seven years so we are in the honeymoon period. Would you

:27:36. > :27:45.recommend I should retire? I wouldn't hesitate! Really?! You will

:27:46. > :27:52.be able to walk out of the office. I mean, zip the dude.

:27:53. > :27:59.Now, the son has been out all day, which means a large -- the sun has

:28:00. > :28:04.been out all day, which means a large glass of wine and minigolf!

:28:05. > :28:11.We are going to see how many of these balls you can get in the hole

:28:12. > :28:14.in 60 seconds. But to make it more difficult, because you are a pro, we

:28:15. > :28:22.are going to ask you questions on the way round. What is your best

:28:23. > :28:30.one-liner? I don't have one! You are a regular on Radio 4 The News Quiz.

:28:31. > :28:33.It is presented by Miles Jupp. Who is your favourite, Miles Jupp all

:28:34. > :28:40.your friends Sandi Toksvig? I love them both equally! I cannot choose!

:28:41. > :28:51.How do you prepare for a stand-up gig? By being a superhero! When was

:28:52. > :29:02.the last time you just up your cuts? A nice tidy. Your most embarrassing

:29:03. > :29:09.moment? I burst into the train toilet when somebody was in there!

:29:10. > :29:13.They hadn't locked the door! The most unexpected thing we could find

:29:14. > :29:20.in your home. A custom-made tiger suit! Time up!

:29:21. > :29:28.CHEERING High-5! You got four. Very good. We

:29:29. > :29:32.have a trophy that you can have because we know you are going back

:29:33. > :29:36.on the sleeper train. Anyway, that is all we have time for tonight. A

:29:37. > :29:44.big thank you to Susan for joining us. And her book Cheer Up Love is

:29:45. > :29:48.out now. Will be joined by top acting talent Lily James Richard

:29:49. > :29:51.Madden and Rick Astley will be playing us out. Good night.