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:00:21. > :00:26.with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. You can say what you want about our

:00:26. > :00:32.first guest tonight but this year she's celebrating 25 years since she

:00:32. > :00:37.gave up her job as a hairdresser to become an international pop star.

:00:37. > :00:44.And as for our second guest, having played Moll Flanders it was

:00:44. > :00:50.inevitable she would get off with the Doctor. Please welcome Sharleen

:00:50. > :00:55.Spiteri and Alex Kingston! A very good evening. Somebody scripted that

:00:55. > :00:59.for me Alex, I would never have put it that way, but we did see you

:00:59. > :01:05.kissing Matt Smith, quite the treat. Were you surprised by his

:01:05. > :01:09.announcement that he was going to leave after the end of this one?

:01:09. > :01:16.wasn't surprised as we had a chat about the potential. How long about

:01:16. > :01:20.was that? ? I'm not going to say. I don't want to spoil it. At some

:01:20. > :01:23.stage you have to move on and we did discuss when would be the right time

:01:23. > :01:29.in a young actor's career if they were very associated with a

:01:29. > :01:33.particular role. You have to move on, otherwise it becomes very

:01:33. > :01:39.difficult, because you get typecast. Who would you like to see moving in?

:01:39. > :01:43.I don't know. They say it might be a woman, you see. Dame Helen Mirren

:01:44. > :01:53.has been mentioned. I don't think I could kiss her though.

:01:54. > :01:58.

:01:58. > :02:06.LAUGHTER Well... There is always a first time. I thought, are you going

:02:06. > :02:10.to be the doctor? A few years ago there was chat about that but she is

:02:10. > :02:18.married to him, essentially. lots of weird morphing stuff goes

:02:18. > :02:23.on, so you never know. And how did your audition go? Let's not star. I

:02:23. > :02:29.can't mention. Tonight we've got someone you are fans of and she will

:02:29. > :02:34.be winning more fans with The White Queen on BBC One. He asked me to lie

:02:34. > :02:40.with him and I refused, and if he dies, I will regret that forever. I

:02:40. > :02:45.regret it now. You are a girl from a House of Lancaster and you live in a

:02:45. > :02:54.country that's divided. You may not fall in love with a York King unless

:02:54. > :02:58.there is profit in it for you. writer and actress Philippa Gregory.

:02:58. > :03:03.Hi Philippa. We know that The White Queen is going to be a massive hit,

:03:03. > :03:08.ten hours of it on BBC One. We can't wait. Are you happy with the way it

:03:08. > :03:13.has gone so far from what you've seen? I'm delighted. I've seen it

:03:13. > :03:16.all. Well, the sample of it there, you've got these fantastically

:03:16. > :03:22.strong women characters, an amazing period of English history. Although

:03:23. > :03:27.we know of it we don't know a lot about it in detail. This visually

:03:28. > :03:32.beautiful very cinematic television series. We will discuss it at length

:03:32. > :03:37.as the evening progresses. And we be testing your historical knowledge,

:03:37. > :03:43.all three of you. This is tough, this. We are going to ask you to

:03:43. > :03:48.guess the famous face from the tights that person is wearing. Like

:03:48. > :03:56.that! We've been playing this afternoon. I think I know who that

:03:56. > :04:00.is. You do? Hold that thought. With the opening of the new Mary Rose

:04:00. > :04:05.Museum and the discovery of 4,000-year-old log boats near

:04:05. > :04:10.Peterborough wrecks are making a resurgence at the moment. But what

:04:10. > :04:20.of the wreck hunters who devote their lives to find new Conservative

:04:20. > :04:22.

:04:22. > :04:29.Riese. -- new Conservative Riese. The Scilly Isles, a secret location

:04:29. > :04:35.hidden 30 feet beneath the waves. A 400-year-old shipwreck discovered

:04:35. > :04:42.languishing on the ocean floor. The amateur wreck hunters Todd Stevens,

:04:42. > :04:46.a local carpenter, and Robin Burrows from the landlocked West Midlands.

:04:46. > :04:52.Their latest adventure, seven days diving by marine archaeologists sent

:04:52. > :04:58.by English Heritage. Their objective - to prove that the wreck they found

:04:58. > :05:02.is the flying Joan, part of Sir Walter Raleigh's fleet which sank

:05:02. > :05:09.without trace on its final voyage. These guys are no strangers to

:05:09. > :05:13.hunting for shipwrecks. Over the last 15 years they've found a

:05:13. > :05:18.treasure-trove of artefacts, from ancient pottery, dominoes, coins,

:05:18. > :05:25.even a 200-year-old musket. If it is down there, the likelihood is they

:05:25. > :05:31.will find it. Any disasters? Plenty. Really? You dive a great many sites

:05:31. > :05:36.just to find one of interest and you come up with a washing machine. That

:05:36. > :05:42.was eagerly anticipated, how did that get all the way out there?

:05:42. > :05:47.Clean washing I hope? We didn't look. How excited are you when you

:05:47. > :05:57.find something like this? He is worse than a dog. As soon as the

:05:57. > :05:59.

:05:59. > :06:03.engine stops he is on his kit and over the side. What makes you so

:06:03. > :06:13.confident that this latest find is important? This is quite crudely

:06:13. > :06:13.

:06:13. > :06:17.built. It all fits. Toby from welcomes Archaeology is leading the

:06:17. > :06:25.team investigating the wreck site. What you can see here are the

:06:25. > :06:30.timbers of the wreck all along here, and three guns. How important is it

:06:30. > :06:34.to you, that amateur wreck hunters do highlight cases like this for

:06:35. > :06:38.you? It is very important. When historic wrecks like this come to

:06:38. > :06:43.light we hope they would be reported to the relevant authorities so they

:06:43. > :06:47.can be protected for future generations. It is not treasure that

:06:47. > :06:54.the archaeologists are after. It is all about getting the right wood

:06:54. > :06:58.sample. Toby, that was your first dive. 1960s pleasure cruiser or are

:06:58. > :07:03.you confident that's an old wreck? It is definitely the real deal. All

:07:03. > :07:09.the evidence is pointing to a wreck for those dates. It is just finding

:07:09. > :07:13.a bit of wood that will be the right quality of sample. We would send it

:07:13. > :07:20.to a specialist. This ewould measure the distances between all the rings.

:07:20. > :07:24.The tree grow grows certain amounts each year. If it is a warm year it

:07:24. > :07:29.grows year and if it is cold, it grows less. The pattern can be

:07:29. > :07:36.matched with other trees, so you can tell exactly where that tree came

:07:36. > :07:40.from. Almost like a fingerprint?It is more like a bar code. The divers

:07:40. > :07:46.are having to battle against very poor visibility, which is unusual at

:07:46. > :07:52.this time of year. So far they haven't retrieved a sample good

:07:52. > :07:56.enough to be analysed but after 45 minutes of under underwater saw sag

:07:56. > :08:01.it looks like they've retrieved their bounty. This is exactly what

:08:01. > :08:07.we were after, so it is a much thicker piece of wood. There's very

:08:07. > :08:13.little in terms of marine borers. Hopefully we'll get some information

:08:13. > :08:17.from it. A really productive day and a massive smile on my face, because

:08:17. > :08:21.that last dive they came one that great sample. By the end of the week

:08:21. > :08:27.they need two or three similar samples that they can go and

:08:28. > :08:32.analyse. A good day. What a day and what a discovery.

:08:32. > :08:38.Philippa, you are yet to right about Sir Walter. Have you got any plans

:08:38. > :08:43.to include him? I'm worki through t the Plantagenets. He is Elizabethan,

:08:43. > :08:49.a bit further on. He is this great adventurer it. He goes to America

:08:49. > :08:59.several times and the ship is sunk after he is trying to find the

:08:59. > :09:03.fabled city of Ed doored a o. He really -- El Dorado. It will be

:09:03. > :09:08.great if it is the flying the Joan. Alison from English Heritage is

:09:08. > :09:14.here. You are collating all this information from the dive. The

:09:14. > :09:19.divers have brought some artefacts to the surface, including this

:09:19. > :09:25.cannonball. And there's some pottery, some ceramics. The thing

:09:25. > :09:30.we've been interested this is the wood samples. Can I ask why that's

:09:30. > :09:33.being kept in water? It is our standard conservation guidance for

:09:33. > :09:37.divers, to keep their finds wet, so they can get proper conservation

:09:37. > :09:45.treatment. What do you think the chances are of this wreck being the

:09:45. > :09:50.flying Joan? The finds that we have looked at today are 15th and 16th

:09:50. > :09:55.century. Until we get our wood samples back and the dating we can't

:09:55. > :10:01.be sure. That will allow us to give a date for the whole of the site. It

:10:01. > :10:04.has been a known Anchorage for centuries, so there'll be

:10:04. > :10:10.archaeological contamination. is a significant find, because you

:10:10. > :10:16.know it is that age. Boats of that age are rare, regardless of whether

:10:16. > :10:20.it is the flying Joan, it is an exciting site for us. The wreck

:10:20. > :10:24.hunters in the film got in touch with English Heritage. What about

:10:24. > :10:34.divers that might go down and take artefacts from a wreck and not pass

:10:34. > :10:37.them on. How much of a problem is that? We don't set the legislation,

:10:37. > :10:42.there's different bits of law that deal with that. We are keen to

:10:42. > :10:45.encourage people to comply with the law. If salvage is undertaken

:10:46. > :10:50.legitimately and if there is a museum and conservation in place,

:10:50. > :10:56.there is no issues. I would like to encourage divers to talk to us,

:10:56. > :11:01.because we can share our information about the known sites we know of. We

:11:01. > :11:09.work well with the diving community. We will keep our fingers crossed

:11:09. > :11:13.that it is the flying Joan. I have a question. When I was taught

:11:13. > :11:20.at school, Sir Walter Raleigh was described as some sort of wonderful

:11:20. > :11:25.nobleman, but was he really or was he a pirate? He was an adventurer.

:11:25. > :11:31.He had guts. He was an adventurer and he was an important person of

:11:31. > :11:36.his time. He was licensed as a pirate? He was, because the

:11:36. > :11:40.Elizabeth and subsequently James would allow people to attack, say,

:11:40. > :11:44.the Spanish treasure ships. They would be working as pirates but

:11:44. > :11:52.licensed by the English Crown to do so. We were not taught that in

:11:52. > :11:56.schools. Put it in a book, for goodness sake. Thanks again. It took

:11:56. > :12:00.just one step for Private Nick Franklin's life to change forever.

:12:00. > :12:04.Nick is another casualty of the war in Afghanistan, but as Dr Mark

:12:04. > :12:11.Porter has been founding out his chances of getting back to something

:12:11. > :12:13.like normal has been hugely helped by receive illusionary new surgery.

:12:13. > :12:20.In October 2011 Private Nick Franklin left behind his wife and

:12:20. > :12:24.baby son Jenson for his first tour of military duty in Afghanistan.

:12:24. > :12:29.was hard, very hard to leave them behind and leave my wife, because

:12:29. > :12:34.she was in bits, because she didn't expect me to go off so quickly.

:12:34. > :12:41.four weeks after leaving home Nick suffered devastating injuries from

:12:41. > :12:46.an IED, an improvised explosive device. The day that we went on the

:12:46. > :12:51.patrol, I said to my mate, I've got a funny feeling that we are going to

:12:51. > :12:57.get a contact from an IED or the Taliban themselves. Literally as I

:12:57. > :13:07.just turned around to take one step, off it went. I was thrown up into

:13:07. > :13:08.

:13:08. > :13:13.the air. I was screaming, "My leg! My leg! ." Within 24 hours Nick was

:13:13. > :13:18.back in the UK with Shareen at his bedside. I remember looking at him

:13:18. > :13:24.and he was a state. I remember kissing him and saying, everything's

:13:24. > :13:29.going to be all right. When thetive. ED went off, my leg went to here and

:13:29. > :13:35.the blast took the lower half of my leg outright. With the my right leg

:13:35. > :13:40.I've had a lot of fragmentation damage from the IED. It took a

:13:40. > :13:46.percentage of my knee away. On paper it is supposed to be my good leg,

:13:46. > :13:50.but it is not. With a growing family Nick is determined to get back to

:13:50. > :13:56.work but the does Abeling pain from his knee makes it seem a distant

:13:56. > :14:06.knee. I can't stand, turning, twisting, I can just about hold my

:14:06. > :14:10.

:14:10. > :14:14.son. It is too much weight on my knees. Confronted with complex bomb

:14:14. > :14:19.injuries like Nick's specialists are having to push the boundaries of

:14:19. > :14:23.orthopaedic surgery to their limits. I see you have had a lot of plastic

:14:23. > :14:28.surgical work here. Scans show the load bearing section

:14:28. > :14:35.of Nick's right knee is wearing away. The inside of the knee here

:14:35. > :14:39.has been blown away and blown into pieces by a piece of shrapnel. In

:14:39. > :14:45.Nick's case if he stands still, it doesn't hurt too much. If he tries

:14:45. > :14:50.to move, the rough surfaces grate together and grind themselves away.

:14:50. > :14:54.A standard knee replacement would mean cutting out what remains of

:14:54. > :14:59.Nick's healthy ligaments and cartilage, potentially leaving him

:14:59. > :15:03.less mobile. Using state-of-the-art 3 D scannings, they have engineered

:15:03. > :15:07.tailor made implants with measurements so precise they will

:15:07. > :15:13.have to be put in place by this robot. It is called extreme

:15:13. > :15:17.orthopaedics. The robot holds the surgeon's hand and allows the

:15:17. > :15:21.surgeon to achieve things that I couldn't achieve otherwise. If we

:15:21. > :15:24.get this right, most people in the street will have no idea there is

:15:24. > :15:28.anything the matter with them and he won't think there is anything the

:15:28. > :15:33.matter most of the time. Nick is the only the third soldier

:15:33. > :15:37.in the UK to have this surgery. think it is amazing that he has been

:15:37. > :15:41.given that opportunity. He deserves it for what he has done for our

:15:41. > :15:45.country. As a surgeon, being able to put a

:15:45. > :15:50.young injured person back together again is unbelievably exciting. How

:15:50. > :15:53.wonderful is that? Unbelievably exciting. The main thing is to get

:15:53. > :15:59.back into a civilian job. It is your pride. It is how you want to look

:15:59. > :16:03.after your family. Mark has given special access to

:16:03. > :16:09.watch Nick's operation and we can see that later.

:16:09. > :16:12.Nick, his wife and professor Cobb are here to tell us how far he has

:16:12. > :16:18.progressed and we will chat in a while. It is good to see you all.

:16:18. > :16:24.Nick is smiling. Charlene, you witnessed a minor

:16:24. > :16:29.miracle, your guitarist, Ally had had a brain haemorrhage in 2009. How

:16:29. > :16:34.is he now? He is playing guitar and touring. I mean, it is quite, it

:16:34. > :16:41.came as such a shock, him being the youngest member of the band. He

:16:41. > :16:46.lives a healthy lifestyle and had a grade five brain aneurysm. . ..

:16:46. > :16:50.There were any warnings? No. It seems to be quite, it seems quite

:16:50. > :16:54.common in musicians. But he was more than keen to get back? Oh, he

:16:54. > :16:57.couldn't wait. Basically, he was in a coma for three months and he was

:16:57. > :17:00.in hospital for about a year, but we thought once he started to get

:17:00. > :17:06.better because they really said he wasn't going to live and we thought

:17:06. > :17:10.that was the first time we really thought, he is not going to want to

:17:10. > :17:14.go on tour and he was the one that was like "I have got to get on the

:17:14. > :17:18.road. I have got to get out of this hospital. I have got to do what I'm

:17:18. > :17:23.good at." It was amazing to watch him on stage and all the old memory,

:17:23. > :17:25.he has been playing in Texas since he was 17 so all the old memory was

:17:25. > :17:29.great. Excellent.

:17:29. > :17:33.Wm, on a different note, but would be barking mad not to keep fit. At

:17:33. > :17:39.least that's the view of a growing club of dog owners in Lanarkshire.

:17:39. > :17:42.Well, after teaming up with a tour legged campanion, Sarah Mack

:17:42. > :17:46.discovered it involves more than just a walk in the park!

:17:46. > :17:50.With the Olympics last year and the Commonwealth Games come to go

:17:50. > :17:55.Glasgow in 2014, more and more of us are being inspired to get off the

:17:55. > :18:01.sofa and get fit. So I've come to Lanarkshire to join a running club,

:18:01. > :18:08.but this one is slightly different. It not only helps us to get fit, but

:18:08. > :18:13.our dogs too! Canicross has built up a large

:18:14. > :18:21.following with keen runners and dog lovers alike. It is a sport which is

:18:21. > :18:29.as healthy for man and dog. Lynnsy is a fitness fanatic who loves

:18:29. > :18:34.running. And set-up her own club along with her fury best friend. And

:18:34. > :18:41.like most dogs he loves to run. So explain the art of canicross. How

:18:41. > :18:44.does it work? Well, the dog is harnessed attached to the owner with

:18:44. > :18:48.a bungee line. The dog should be running out in front pulling you

:18:48. > :18:54.along. Can any breed of dog do it? P-yes,

:18:54. > :19:00.as long as the dog can run. They can all take partment

:19:00. > :19:05.How did you get involved? contacted local running groups and

:19:05. > :19:08.groups and asked if I could bring my dog and I wasn't able to. The power

:19:08. > :19:13.of social media, I got in touch with like minded people and we formed a

:19:14. > :19:18.group together and it grew from there. It changed my life. I went

:19:18. > :19:21.from running five Ks with the dog to running marathons in the space of a

:19:21. > :19:27.year. What do the canicross addicts like

:19:27. > :19:33.about running with their beloved dogs? I just like it because it

:19:33. > :19:38.makes you get really close to them. I am into running and I started

:19:38. > :19:47.canicross. I love running. The safety side of things of running

:19:47. > :19:52.a group is important? I would like to go places, but not on my own.

:19:52. > :19:56.How did she cope with the running? She is really good and she pulls you

:19:56. > :20:01.along with I is helpful when you are getting tired legs and you can

:20:01. > :20:05.encourage her to go in front of you. Canicross has changed my dog's life

:20:05. > :20:10.and my life. Anyone who wants to get out and ex-ear sighs their dog and

:20:10. > :20:16.if they have -- exercise their dog and if they have a behavioural issue

:20:16. > :20:20.this will help. I have come from a size 24 to a size

:20:20. > :20:23.14. I am happy to stay at the back of the pack, but give it the best

:20:23. > :20:28.you have got. When I am lagging behind at the

:20:28. > :20:31.back, will you keep me company? will be there!

:20:31. > :20:41.I'm off to join the rest of the pack!

:20:41. > :20:56.

:20:56. > :21:02.I'm feeling a wee bit nervous. So the first test to run without

:21:02. > :21:07.falling flat on my face. Thankfully, I've passed! It was exhilarating

:21:07. > :21:15.outside on a summer's evening running with 40 other dog owners and

:21:15. > :21:18.their dogs. Canicross is definitely Ah, he is tired. There are plenty of

:21:18. > :21:24.dos and don'ts when it comes to canicross which can be found on our

:21:24. > :21:28.website. But Matthew Baker has more. Make sure your dog has water. Check

:21:28. > :21:33.the ground that your ground is running on and don't over exert your

:21:33. > :21:37.dog. If you are running a certain distance, you have got to get back

:21:37. > :21:45.again. Make sure your dog isn't too tired.

:21:45. > :21:52.Philippa, do you do this with your dog? He is a big dog. He is an

:21:52. > :21:57.independent dog. It does look like him, but Ben is more handsome.

:21:57. > :22:00.They are very big. He is very big and he is gentle and

:22:00. > :22:05.afession nat, but self willed. So he will go where he wants to go and if

:22:05. > :22:11.I have to run after him sometimes and none of this co-operative

:22:11. > :22:17.running and if I scold him, he will sit with his back to me because he

:22:17. > :22:23.is a sulker and he won't speak to me for half an hour or so until I say,

:22:23. > :22:28." Shall we make up?" Talking of strong characters you have played a

:22:28. > :22:37.lot and you started at quite a young age. We have got this to show you.

:22:37. > :22:45.Oh no. Sorry, I didn't realise. You did

:22:45. > :22:49.that on purpose. That's right. I'm going to do it again. If I share my

:22:49. > :22:54.knowledge with judo with you, you should share your knowledge with me.

:22:54. > :23:01.We all want to get good results, don't we? Now work for it.You

:23:01. > :23:07.couldn't have heard what I said. APPLAUSE

:23:07. > :23:09.I have people watching The One Show and I know they will be calling me

:23:09. > :23:18.tonight. Oh dear, I'm so embarrassed.

:23:18. > :23:24.It was very well acted. My braids. Oh dear gosh. I haven't seen that

:23:24. > :23:29.for a very long time. Can we move Part of a new project that's going

:23:29. > :23:34.to let loads of people live and on the big screen see you and Kenneth

:23:34. > :23:41.Branagh perform Macbeth. Tell us about this project then? Well, I do

:23:41. > :23:49.do some judo throws on Kenneth. I am working my way up. I haven't told

:23:49. > :23:55.him yet! Macbeth, it is part of the international Manchester

:23:55. > :24:00.international festival and this has started since I have been away in

:24:00. > :24:05.Los Angeles, but it is the only festival that commission new works

:24:05. > :24:13.and that's new works in the visual arts and popular culture and in the

:24:13. > :24:19.performing arts. So the festival itself commissioned Kennet and Rob

:24:19. > :24:25.Ashford to come up with a new interpretation of Macbeth. And you

:24:25. > :24:30.are playing Lady Macbeth Yes, I am. Have you seen the concept of theatre

:24:30. > :24:33.in cinemas? You get a bigger audience and people who can't get to

:24:33. > :24:37.Manchester get the chance to see it locally.

:24:37. > :24:42.One of the difficulties is the location in which we are performing

:24:42. > :24:47.the play, it is a small space for a theatre and so the number of people

:24:47. > :24:53.that are able to see the production is limited and in fact, the

:24:53. > :24:57.production has sold out. But so I was thrilled when I found out that

:24:57. > :25:01.National Theatre Live were going to screen it and I have seen screenings

:25:01. > :25:05.in Los Angeles of performances at the National Theatre and it works

:25:05. > :25:10.really well. You almost forget that you are watching it on screen.

:25:10. > :25:14.You have come straight from rehearsal. I have, yeah. It is going

:25:14. > :25:18.really well actually. I am a little nervous, but I'm having such a good

:25:18. > :25:21.time in rehearsal and everybody is great. How is Kenneth Branagh? He is

:25:22. > :25:27.a big deal, isn't he? He is renowned for working on this type of

:25:27. > :25:31.material. How have you found him as a director? Mm, well he is

:25:31. > :25:36.codirecting with Rob Ashford because Ken is playing Macbeth he can't be

:25:36. > :25:41.in both places at the same time, but he tries!

:25:41. > :25:47.He is wonderful. I mean, he is very generous and the thing that I'm

:25:47. > :25:51.loving is that the space is safe. One feels that one can just try

:25:51. > :25:57.things and look a fool and everybody is there supporting you just having

:25:57. > :26:02.a go. So I just, I think, that it will be very, very exciting. We wish

:26:02. > :26:07.you all the best. Yes, we do. The Big Screen Live of Macbeth is on

:26:07. > :26:11.Saturday, 20th July. 69 years ago today, thousands of

:26:12. > :26:21.allied troops along the South Coast were waiting for the signal to begin

:26:21. > :26:27.what became known as D-Day. Years of plans -- planning was behind it. Dan

:26:27. > :26:37.Snow reports. The wild heathlands of hankly Common

:26:37. > :26:41.

:26:41. > :26:46.in Surrey. Recently starred as James Bond's remote Skyfall estate. In the

:26:46. > :26:53.dark days of 1943, Britain and the allies were looking forward to did

:26:53. > :26:58.D-Day. Their plan to invade the beaches of Europe and free Europe

:26:58. > :27:03.from the Nazis. And hidden in the woods was a top-secret site where

:27:03. > :27:12.one British genius was able to test his cunning ideas to take on the

:27:12. > :27:16.formidable German defences. Among them, Hitler's Atlantic Wall. Miles

:27:16. > :27:21.of concrete fortifications running along the French coast and bristling

:27:21. > :27:27.with artillery, barbed wire and millions of mines. The allies knew

:27:27. > :27:33.from experience what damage defences -- damage to fences like these dwo

:27:33. > :27:37.could. A raid on the occupied port ended in disast when their troops

:27:37. > :27:43.became trapped on the beach. Over 4,000 men were wounded, captured or

:27:43. > :27:48.killed. The allies were determined not to

:27:48. > :27:58.make that same mistake a second time. So here in the Surrey woodland

:27:58. > :28:00.

:28:00. > :28:06.they built this - a replica section of the Atlantic Wall to practise on.

:28:06. > :28:10.How did they know how to build it? Because they looked at real thing

:28:11. > :28:15.and they used information from the French resistance and sent raiding

:28:15. > :28:18.parties across at night tomed swim ashore and come up the beach to chip

:28:18. > :28:23.concrete off the real wall to make sure the mix of the concrete was

:28:23. > :28:28.right. It is jaw dropping just how much

:28:28. > :28:32.effort they went to to build this wall. Once it was finished they

:28:32. > :28:39.spent the time working out how to smash it down and to solve that

:28:39. > :28:45.problem they turned the imagination of a maverick, Major General.

:28:45. > :28:49.His name was Percy Hobart, a difficult, but brilliant royal

:28:49. > :28:56.engineer. He was renowned for his ability to think outside the box as

:28:56. > :29:01.David explains. Percy Hobart's a fantastic character. He found his

:29:01. > :29:07.moment in World War II. He takes normal battle tanks like this

:29:07. > :29:17.Churchill tank and converts them by adding new weaponry. They end up

:29:17. > :29:17.

:29:17. > :29:24.being called Hobart's Funnies. This one was called the Goat. It was

:29:24. > :29:28.designed to be against a wall and detonated from a distance. They put

:29:28. > :29:35.this mortar and this is one of the rounds they fired. Inside there are

:29:35. > :29:39.28 pounds of high explosive. It will go about 100m and make one hell of a

:29:39. > :29:46.hole in anything it is fired at. enough of these could cause a huge

:29:46. > :29:50.hole in a wall like this one? first one didn't do it, there are 28

:29:50. > :29:56.other rounds in there. You keep firing until you are through.

:29:56. > :30:03.Percy's work was supposedly top secret. This local resident wrote,

:30:03. > :30:13.our bedroom ceiling cracked in all directions during some exceptionally

:30:13. > :30:17.noisy exercises on the Commons. What Molly couldn't eknow was her bedroom

:30:17. > :30:23.ceiling was one small cushily at the in the build-up to the biggest land,

:30:23. > :30:28.sector and air assault in history. On June sixth 1944, D-Day finally

:30:28. > :30:34.arrived. After months of practise on Hankley Common, Percy's specially

:30:34. > :30:38.adapted tanks rolled on to the French beaches. In just one day they

:30:38. > :30:42.helped breach the mighty Atlantic wall and the allies were on their

:30:42. > :30:46.way. In less than a year the war in Europe was over. It just goes to

:30:46. > :30:54.show that even against an obstacle as powerful as the German war

:30:54. > :31:01.machine, a little bit of British ingenuity goes a long way. You can

:31:01. > :31:07.see the first episode of Dan's documentary D-Day - The Last Heroes

:31:07. > :31:12.this Sunday evening at ten past nine. You mentioned that your mum

:31:12. > :31:17.was part of the D-Day plans? They gave her some plans to take to

:31:17. > :31:24.Portsmouth. She had to drive from London to Portsmouth. She was in the

:31:24. > :31:29.female Yeomenry. As she was going south, there was a huge convoy of

:31:29. > :31:38.American troops, also heading south. Her car got stuck with in nonstop

:31:38. > :31:44.stream of tanks and armoured vehicles and everything. She said in

:31:44. > :31:49.a very nonaggressive female officer kind of way, help me, help me, I

:31:49. > :31:53.have to get to Portsmouth. And he stopped the convoy, which was a huge

:31:53. > :31:59.thing to do, and her car got through and she got through to the

:31:59. > :32:04.headquarters. She believes that if it had not been for her... That is a

:32:04. > :32:08.whole new book Poverties I thought he might ring Dan right now.

:32:08. > :32:14.programme doesn't go out until Sunday.

:32:14. > :32:18.Sharleen, eight years on Texas have eventually brought out a new album.

:32:18. > :32:24.It is called The Conversation. It is brilliant, but why has it taken so

:32:24. > :32:31.long and where have you been? years ago when we did the last Texas

:32:31. > :32:35.album it got to the point where we had sold so many records, been on so

:32:35. > :32:42.many TVs, did so much towering. People liked us but I think it was

:32:42. > :32:49.just a bit too much of us so we decided to take some time off.

:32:49. > :32:55.Families and kids and that stuff. And then Ally had a brain aneurysm.

:32:55. > :33:00.Are all the other members the same? Yep, everybody. We all see each

:33:00. > :33:05.other all the time anyway, so for us it was, with it felt like we hadn't

:33:05. > :33:12.stopped. We've managed to get our act together and we went back out

:33:12. > :33:22.and did some dates. We thought, stop being so lazy, make a record.

:33:22. > :33:28.

:33:28. > :33:33.album is called The Conversation. # Give it up

:33:33. > :33:43.# Never gonna hold you up # You've always been afraid of love

:33:43. > :33:45.

:33:45. > :33:51.# It is time to have a conversation. APPLAUSE

:33:51. > :33:59.That looked like you were doing Canicross there. My dog would never

:33:59. > :34:09.do that. I had a bit of an accident during the video. We've got the

:34:09. > :34:13.footage. Oh! Sharleen! You are holding your head. My mouth

:34:14. > :34:18.instantly filled with blood, so I thought I smashed my teeth. I hit my

:34:18. > :34:23.face on the corner of the pavement. It was rather sore. Were those

:34:23. > :34:29.extras there? No, they were members of the public, trying to pick me up

:34:30. > :34:34.and I was screaming, don't touch me! It was pretty painful. That must

:34:34. > :34:39.have put you out of action for three weeks? No, I got about three days.

:34:39. > :34:45.They kept saying, take arnica. everything from behind. Like we can

:34:45. > :34:52.do other shots, shoot you from the other side. Soup through a straw?

:34:52. > :34:57.Yes, it was pretty sore when I was running. I had a really bad headache

:34:57. > :35:03.for a week. Did your partner look after you? No, he's typical, he's

:35:03. > :35:09.Welsh isn't he. Sharleen!I walked in and he took one look at me and

:35:09. > :35:14.said, what happened to you? No, he was like, that looks pretty bad.

:35:14. > :35:19.ehe cook for you, because he is a celeb at the chef. I couldn't move

:35:19. > :35:29.my mouth. I just wanted to lie down. Was your dad there? He always used

:35:29. > :35:30.

:35:31. > :35:36.to come with you? My dad goes on tour with us. He will kill me. Look

:35:36. > :35:42.at his AC/DC T-shirt. He was in the merchant Navy all our lives and he

:35:42. > :35:47.drove my mum insane when he retired, so we had to take him on tour.

:35:47. > :35:55.People can come and seep you at Hyde Park? We are doing Hyde Park,

:35:55. > :35:58.Carfest. Is it north or south Carfest? Both. And we do the Texas

:35:58. > :36:02.tour in October. October and November we are out on a big Texas

:36:02. > :36:06.tour, which we haven't done in a long time. We are glad to have you

:36:06. > :36:12.back. It is about time. The Conversation is out right now.

:36:12. > :36:17.Now, the earlier on we saw Dr Mark Porter meet Private Nick Franklin as

:36:17. > :36:21.he prepared for ground-breaking surgery on his shattered knee.

:36:22. > :36:26.Here's what happened just seven weeks ago. 18 months ago Private

:36:26. > :36:32.Nick Franklin's legs took the full force of a booby trap bomb when he

:36:32. > :36:36.was serving in Afghanistan. Obviously I lost my left leg below

:36:36. > :36:41.the knee and I sustained a large amount of damage to the right leg.

:36:41. > :36:46.The bone is missing around this area here. Is it painful?Very painful.

:36:46. > :36:54.What does it stop you doing? A lot of things. I can't really pick up my

:36:54. > :36:58.little boy, because it puts too much pressure on my knee. And my wife is

:36:58. > :37:03.having to be a career for the little ones and for me. There was a few

:37:03. > :37:07.times when he said, I wish they had just took the leg off, because he

:37:07. > :37:12.was in so much pain. Getting this operation is going to make such a

:37:12. > :37:17.difference. The complex bomb damage to Nick's right leg mean there is

:37:17. > :37:22.little chance of his ever getting back to an active life. So

:37:22. > :37:30.specialists here at the King Edward VII Hospital in London are going to

:37:30. > :37:36.try to repair Nick's shattered knee with implants put in by a robot.

:37:36. > :37:40.Welcome to extreme orthopaedics. can see from the back of the knee

:37:40. > :37:44.the shrapnel blew away the weight-bearing part of his knee.

:37:44. > :37:49.is what you are going to do today different from a standard knee

:37:49. > :37:53.replacement? Most people fit high street store clothes and their knees

:37:53. > :37:57.fit department store knees, but each person is blown up did is blown up

:37:57. > :38:02.in a rather different way. So for these young men we make things

:38:02. > :38:07.specially for them. Nick's tailor-made implants will be

:38:07. > :38:11.positioned by the help of this robot fed with the exact geometry of his

:38:11. > :38:15.damaged knee and the plans for fixing it. We are about ten minutes

:38:16. > :38:21.into the operation and it is time to bring the robot in. It is very

:38:21. > :38:25.important it is done with pin-point accuracy or Nick can end up with a

:38:26. > :38:31.knee which is worse. There is no room for error. First Professor Cobb

:38:31. > :38:35.must lock the robot on to Nick's knee. With a normal operation I look

:38:35. > :38:42.and decide it is about here. What we are going to do now is find a lot of

:38:42. > :38:45.points. This is the crucial point of which any precise operation. Using

:38:45. > :38:51.an interactive touchscreen he matches up a series of reference

:38:51. > :38:55.points inside the joint with the robot's 3D images of it. Let's go.

:38:55. > :39:02.The robot is ready to begin its work, sculpting Nick's damaged tibia

:39:02. > :39:06.and femur with a high -speed cutting burr. This is the bit I'm stressing

:39:06. > :39:13.about, or one of the bits, because I'm close to the back of the joint.

:39:14. > :39:19.And you can see it is a bit like a Space Invaders game, clearing the

:39:19. > :39:24.bone. Professor Cobb is guiding the burr but the robot is keeping a

:39:24. > :39:27.close eye on his progress. As you get towards the boundary, the robot

:39:27. > :39:32.starts to resist, saying I don't want to be here. You don't want to

:39:32. > :39:37.be here either. If you know what's good for you, stop now. Would you be

:39:37. > :39:42.able to hand over completely to the robot? No. If you hand over

:39:42. > :39:47.completely it stops. It would never be possible to achieve this degree

:39:47. > :39:53.of accuraciy by human eye or hand alone. We are 45 minutes into the

:39:53. > :39:58.operation. It has all gone very well. The robot has cut the slots

:39:58. > :40:04.into the bone to accept the metal surfaces of the joint. So far, so

:40:04. > :40:09.good. I've prepared these shape shapes. These are coated in the same

:40:09. > :40:13.chemical as bone. Bone is going to grow straight on to these. Can you

:40:13. > :40:17.see this sort of technology becoming routine? If I have a knee

:40:17. > :40:22.replacement in 20 years' time might I be using this sort of thing?

:40:22. > :40:26.think what you will expect is to have plans made like this, because

:40:26. > :40:32.that doesn't cost very much and you will expect some sort of

:40:32. > :40:39.technological assistance. Are you happy? Very happy. I'm delighted

:40:39. > :40:44.actually. For an hour and 15 and the professor's put Nick's new knee in.

:40:44. > :40:49.Is technology is amazing. Let's hope it gives Nick the life he's hoping

:40:49. > :40:54.for. We can find out because Nick, Shareen and Professor Justin Cobb

:40:54. > :40:59.are here. Nick, seven weeks ago, how are you feeling now? A lot better.

:40:59. > :41:03.It is seven weeks, a long time ago, but yeah, the operation went really

:41:03. > :41:08.well and... What are you noticing? Are you noticing that it feels

:41:08. > :41:12.stronger? A lot stronger. It is a lot more secure an it was before.

:41:12. > :41:18.Obviously when I was walking, sometimes bone would lock and it

:41:18. > :41:24.would give in, so I would have to stop. And I would have to lean on my

:41:24. > :41:28.wife to get to get my leg back into its normal state. But since I've had

:41:28. > :41:32.the op done it is a massive improvement. I don't have to take so

:41:32. > :41:37.many pain killers any more. You said you wanteded to be able to interact

:41:37. > :41:41.more with your children. Is it making a big difference Shareen at

:41:41. > :41:46.home? Definitely. It has made such a huge difference. He doesn't have to

:41:46. > :41:51.lean on me any more. He is walking a lot better. He's off the pain

:41:51. > :41:55.killers can. It has improved his temperament as well. He used to get

:41:55. > :42:01.grumpy when he was in pain. what's incredible is the timing of

:42:01. > :42:09.the operation. It was vital in your lives. Tell us why? I had to get

:42:09. > :42:16.induced, because our bany Page was due on 11th April. His operation was

:42:16. > :42:22.on 18th. If I went over, he wouldn't be there for the birth. Wow!So it

:42:22. > :42:29.was like, get her out quick. Professor Cobb it is remarkable to

:42:29. > :42:33.see that. Nick was interested to have that as a log to look back at.

:42:33. > :42:40.But pioneering technology helps the accuracy. What else could this be

:42:40. > :42:42.used for? The suite of technologies allows us to almost do anything now

:42:43. > :42:48.in terms of reconstructing the skeleton but for ordinary people

:42:48. > :42:52.wearing out it has allowed us to do things much more accurately and

:42:52. > :43:02.taking away less person. The wonderful thing about Nick is he is

:43:02. > :43:03.

:43:03. > :43:07.walking abusefully so soon. -- walking beautifully so soon.

:43:07. > :43:10.must be absolutely delighted Nick. I guess you can't really put into it

:43:10. > :43:14.words. What you've been through is incredibly traumatic in itself.

:43:14. > :43:19.is traumatic and it is hard for a lot of blokes who go through what

:43:19. > :43:25.I've been through. But obviously with the support of my wife and my

:43:25. > :43:35.family I've managed to push through a hell of a lot of it. I should have

:43:35. > :43:40.been on crutches for an extra two months. And it is determination. A

:43:40. > :43:44.massive improvement. I want to push on and get on with the rest of my

:43:44. > :43:50.life. We wish all the best to you and to your family and to Professor

:43:50. > :43:56.Cobb. Now, I'm guessing you ladies have flown quite a lot. But look at

:43:56. > :44:01.this picture. That wasn't down to unruly passengers. It was extreme

:44:01. > :44:06.turbulence. Kochee on the ceiling, the lot. Marty Jopson Plett the man

:44:06. > :44:12.charged with making sure that modern aircraft are safe from lightning

:44:12. > :44:17.strikes. In the average year around 300,000

:44:17. > :44:24.lightening bolts hit Britain. 45 people are struck by lightening and

:44:24. > :44:30.in the air over 20,000 aircraft are hit. How does it happen?

:44:30. > :44:36.It is all to do with what is making my hair stand on end. Electrical

:44:36. > :44:43.charge in atoms. Inside clouds, water and ice are constantly moving

:44:43. > :44:48.around. Scientists aren't sure how, but this causes some ice to become

:44:49. > :44:53.electricically charged. The positively charged ice accumulates

:44:53. > :45:00.at the top of the cloud. The negatively charged ice builds up at

:45:00. > :45:04.the bottom. And because opposite charges attract, this build-up of

:45:04. > :45:08.negative charge pulls positive charge to the surfaces of the earth.

:45:08. > :45:15.And there is enough charge here that it flashes over and that's how you

:45:15. > :45:22.get a lightening strike. Lightening is dangerous enough on the ground.

:45:22. > :45:32.But what happens when you are at 35,000 feet in a metal tube? This is

:45:32. > :45:36.

:45:36. > :45:39.what happens. 100 million volts passes through the plane. Cardiff

:45:40. > :45:44.University have set-up a lightening laboratory to allow engineers like

:45:44. > :45:48.Chris Stone to understand the effects and come up with solutions.

:45:48. > :45:51.Chris, how often do planes get struck then? On average each

:45:51. > :45:56.commercial aircraft is struck once a year.

:45:56. > :46:01.That's a lot. It is quite a lot. So they survive it. What are they

:46:01. > :46:05.made of? They are made out of aluminium which is a good conductor

:46:05. > :46:10.of electricity. Chris has simulated what happens

:46:10. > :46:14.when lightening hits the aluminium planes. In fact, it the charge

:46:14. > :46:20.passes along the exterior and out the other end causing almost no

:46:20. > :46:24.damage. But these days, planes are increasingly being made out of more

:46:24. > :46:28.energy efficient materials. Modern aircraft are being built out of

:46:28. > :46:32.carbon-fibre to reduce weight, to save energy, to make the aeroplanes

:46:32. > :46:38.more green. The trouble is carbon-fibre isn't as

:46:38. > :46:44.conductive so the lightening causes more damage. We can simulate that

:46:44. > :46:47.here. We bring the lightening in through the cables. Pass it between

:46:47. > :46:50.these two points here and it strikes the panel.

:46:50. > :46:55.So how much current is you got then? It is three times the average

:46:55. > :46:59.lightening strike. Let's do it. Come on!

:46:59. > :47:04.Each lightening strike Chris makes contains the same energy as a

:47:04. > :47:14.nuclear power station produces in a day. So it is best not to be in the

:47:14. > :47:28.

:47:28. > :47:33.That was it? That's amazing. That's a hell of a

:47:33. > :47:38.bang. A he hell of a bang. In slow motion, we can see frame by

:47:38. > :47:44.frame what happens as the strike hits. It only lasts 32 million thsz

:47:44. > :47:48.of a second. But the damage is clear to see.

:47:48. > :47:55.Look at that. So if this was the outside of an aeroplane, that would

:47:55. > :47:59.be bad news? You wouldn't like that to happen. To ensure it doesn't,

:47:59. > :48:06.Chris tests carbon-fibre panels covered with different coatings to

:48:06. > :48:12.see which coats with -- copes with lightening best. Firing.The tests

:48:12. > :48:18.revealed the answer. A cooper weave just 600ths of' millimetre thick.

:48:19. > :48:26.This is a cooper foil. So this is the same carbon-fibre

:48:26. > :48:30.with chicken wire over the top. Yes. You can see the damage there

:48:30. > :48:35.is. This gives you the best of both worlds? Yes, the lightness of the

:48:35. > :48:40.panel and the conductivity of the metallic foil.

:48:40. > :48:46.Chris' work means when our fuel efficient planes of the future are

:48:46. > :48:52.struck by lightening, we will still be as safe inside as we are now.

:48:52. > :48:58.Well, thanks, Martin, but what is it like to be struck by lightening?

:48:58. > :49:01.Well, we know someone who can tell us, Barry Stanley. No you welcome

:49:01. > :49:07.Barry. It is nice to have you with us. What can you remember about the

:49:07. > :49:12.experience you had? It is extremely painful. Nine years down the line I

:49:12. > :49:16.still feel the pain every step I a take, it feels like walking on

:49:16. > :49:23.broken glass, broken raiser blades. It was on your birthday. Set the

:49:23. > :49:27.scene for us. You were out for a walk? I was visiting my mum in the

:49:27. > :49:30.Lake District. We were having a look and it came over dark and it started

:49:30. > :49:36.belting it down with the rain. I suggested we should head back to the

:49:36. > :49:42.car. We started walking back towards the car and 30 foot from the car, a

:49:42. > :49:45.bolt of lightening came down and I was underneath it. And what happened

:49:45. > :49:49.next then? Well, the lightening through me about six foot up in the

:49:49. > :49:55.air. I hit the deck and when I was lying on the ground, apparently

:49:55. > :50:00.there was just smoke coming off me. Me mum and brother were sitting up

:50:00. > :50:04.shaking my head, are you all right? There was me face first in the mud.

:50:04. > :50:09.Rolled me over. No pulse. They started mouth to mouth and chest

:50:09. > :50:12.compressions and got me breathing. So when did you come around then?

:50:12. > :50:16.briefly regained consciousness in the air ambulance. I looked to my

:50:16. > :50:21.left and opened my eyes and all I could see was clouds. I didn't know

:50:21. > :50:25.what was going on, where I was. idea how you managed to survive

:50:25. > :50:29.that? What have they said to you about it? More chance of you winning

:50:29. > :50:32.the Lottery than being struck by lightening, but the only thing I can

:50:32. > :50:36.put it down to is the love and support from my family and the fact

:50:36. > :50:40.I was physically strong and fit and healthy at the time.

:50:40. > :50:44.Well, you have an incredible outlook on life. You really do. And you

:50:45. > :50:47.won't let anything beat you. Thank you for coming in. Yes, thanks,

:50:48. > :50:51.Barry. Philippa. There is a lot of

:50:51. > :50:56.excitement surrounding the new television series. A ten parter on

:50:56. > :51:03.the BBC called The White Queen. Let's have a look at what we can

:51:03. > :51:08.expect. I cannot be your mistress. I may die

:51:08. > :51:17.in battle, but this could be my last request. You could deny your king

:51:17. > :51:27.that? You will not die. You are quick and brave and lucky. Then I

:51:27. > :51:29.

:51:29. > :51:34.must go and this will be the end of it. Tomorrow. Sunset. Meet me by the

:51:34. > :51:42.big oak tree even if only to say goodbye.

:51:42. > :51:48.We are all gripped. I can't wait. It is based on your series of books,

:51:48. > :51:52.the Cousins War. What was the White Queen? She is the wife of Edward the

:51:52. > :51:57.fourth and one of the stories in history we do know they are married

:51:57. > :52:01.for love. They married in secret and actually her arrival in court as the

:52:01. > :52:05.Queen is one of the things that prolongs the wars because Edward's

:52:05. > :52:09.chief adviser and mentor takes a dislike to her and that means there

:52:09. > :52:15.is another series of wars after the ones that Edward just goes off and

:52:15. > :52:16.wins. It has everything, love, lust and war. What role did you play then

:52:16. > :52:21.as well as writing the books? Bringing the story to life for the

:52:21. > :52:25.screen? Well, I was executive producer on the project. So I was

:52:25. > :52:29.involved in casting and all of those decisions, but the main thing

:52:29. > :52:33.because I'm a writer by trade, of course, the main thing I was really

:52:33. > :52:37.interested with the sciment so I worked closely with the script

:52:37. > :52:40.writer, Emma Frost and the team of script writers.

:52:40. > :52:44.And where there big arguments about the scenes you had to get off and

:52:44. > :52:48.you wanted to keep in? There are always creative differences and this

:52:48. > :52:52.was one of the happiest projects I worked on. It was extraordinary

:52:52. > :52:59.because we set off with a determination as staying as closely

:52:59. > :53:06.to the novels novels as possible. You lose, you are out of time, you

:53:06. > :53:09.know, although it is ten hours, it is based on three big novels and

:53:09. > :53:12.those focussed on three complex women characters. Of course, you

:53:12. > :53:16.have problems of how much you are going to be able to put in.

:53:16. > :53:20.A real luxury to have for you. When you see something on a big screen,

:53:20. > :53:30.you go, " It is not like that at all. They look different." It must

:53:30. > :53:31.

:53:31. > :53:34.be lovely to have that It is a lucks lucksee -- it is a luxury, you are

:53:34. > :53:39.right. Is What do you like about Philippa's

:53:39. > :53:43.work? You just get lost within the story and it is fantastic to be

:53:43. > :53:51.reading something that's historically accurate. So you feel

:53:51. > :53:54.like you are educating yourself at the same time. You can relate to

:53:54. > :53:59.pieces of it within your own life which is amazing.

:54:00. > :54:06.How much can you flesh out? From an enteartainment how much do you feel

:54:06. > :54:11.like that you want to elaborate? Nobody keeps any diary of what is

:54:11. > :54:15.use to us. Of course, they go behind a closed door. All the material has

:54:15. > :54:19.to be fiction. So it is almost like a reconstruction sometimes. You know

:54:19. > :54:22.that someone is there. You know why they are dl because you can see what

:54:22. > :54:26.they do when they are there and then you write the scene where they make

:54:26. > :54:31.up their mind to go and when they go through the emotion. It is emotions

:54:31. > :54:35.and feelings are always going to be fiction, but that is also true for

:54:35. > :54:40.people who are writing straight history. They too only have a small

:54:40. > :54:47.amount of factual material to go on. So you often find historians say, "

:54:47. > :54:52.We know that Elizabeth fillet such and such." -- felt such and such."

:54:52. > :54:56.don't know if you agree, one of the lovely things you write your novels

:54:56. > :55:01.from a female prospective. Most historians tell it from a male

:55:01. > :55:09.prospective. Do you find that? what I really enjoyed about the

:55:09. > :55:13.whole of the series of books so far is I was struck by how young the

:55:13. > :55:18.chief protagonists are. They were really very, very young and yet were

:55:18. > :55:24.put in these positions of extraordinary power and inside an

:55:24. > :55:29.awful sort of way. -- and in an awful sort of way. What they had to

:55:29. > :55:33.endure as young girls in terms of having to bed men, whatever, who

:55:33. > :55:37.were much older than them. I mean and in light of what we are dealing

:55:37. > :55:42.with today in the news and everything, I just feel like gosh,

:55:42. > :55:46.it has not really changed all that much or is it something that is

:55:46. > :55:50.actually just part of, it is an awful thing to say, nature and

:55:50. > :55:58.society, but it has been going on for a very, very long time.

:55:58. > :56:06.Well, we can indulge in pill ip pa's work -- Philippa's work.

:56:06. > :56:11.There is White Queen breaking news. Yes, the big news is that male cast

:56:11. > :56:19.members were banned from wearing tights during film of it The White

:56:19. > :56:29.Queen. On The One Show we can't get enough of men in tights.

:56:29. > :56:32.

:56:32. > :56:35.So we are going to celebrate them in a game we are calling Celebrity

:56:35. > :56:42.Tight Spots. Are you up for this? You have to try

:56:42. > :56:49.and spot the celebrity from their legs. Dave is modelling the trophy.

:56:49. > :56:54.No padded trousers on him. You see, I like those tights. Come in.Just

:56:54. > :56:59.put the trophy down, but be careful with where you bend! They are a

:56:59. > :57:04.horrible shade, aren't they? Mushroom. Let's have a look...There

:57:04. > :57:10.is not much room in them tights. Sorry. Let's look at the first set

:57:10. > :57:16.of pins. Alex this one is for you. Now, here are your clues. This actor

:57:16. > :57:21.and presenter put an adder, so ary a ladder in many pairs of tights

:57:21. > :57:26.playing comedy versions of King Charles I and the Duke of Wellington

:57:26. > :57:32.It is not Hugh Laurie. Not quite. A friend of his. You could say he

:57:32. > :57:35.is... Not Stephen Fry.Yes. Let's have a look. It is Stephen

:57:35. > :57:40.Fry. APPLAUSE

:57:40. > :57:44.Did you spot them earlier. Did you get that right? I knew that was

:57:44. > :57:53.Stephen Fry. Do you recognise these knobbly

:57:53. > :57:58.knees? This image is from a die hard actor's first TV Novembery in 1978.

:57:58. > :58:06.-- TV movie in 1978. It is Bruce Willis.

:58:06. > :58:16.It is not. He was clean shaven in Love Actually and Harry Potter. Who

:58:16. > :58:18.

:58:18. > :58:23.do you think it is? Oh Potter. AlanRicman.

:58:23. > :58:32.-- Alan Rickman. We have two pairs of legs for you,

:58:32. > :58:42.Philippa. Your clues are. These comedy brothers probably flogged a

:58:42. > :58:42.

:58:42. > :58:46.few pair of tights. They often found themselves in a tight spot and they

:58:46. > :58:49.drank in the Nag's Head. He David sayson and the other one is

:58:49. > :58:54.the other one! APPLAUSE

:58:54. > :59:00.Have weigh got time for is a decider? -- have we got time for is

:59:00. > :59:03.a decider? Thank you. The Conversation is out now. What a

:59:03. > :59:07.wonderful conversation we had. You can see Macbeth in Manchester