05/10/2012

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:00:24. > :00:29.Hello and welcome to The One Show. On the 50th anniversary of the

:00:29. > :00:37.first Bond film, I'm joined by odd- job himself, Mr Matt Allwright.

:00:37. > :00:46.from Swansea With Love, Miss Funny- penny Jones. And we have a studio

:00:46. > :00:56.of James Bonds, shaken not stirred. It's all to give a 007 welcome to

:00:56. > :00:56.

:00:56. > :01:01.the longest serving Bond, Mr Roger Moore. I'm better with this!

:01:01. > :01:05.nice to have you back. The it's lovely to be back. Big Bond news

:01:05. > :01:09.today because a del's Skyfall has gone straight in there at number

:01:09. > :01:14.one. The first singer ever to have a number one with a Bond theme.

:01:14. > :01:18.What do you make of it? I just heard it for the first time, which

:01:18. > :01:24.is interesting because I'm going to an auction at Christie's after

:01:24. > :01:32.words. A lot that I'm auctioning is the manuscript of a del's in her

:01:32. > :01:37.own hand. That will be worth a fortune. I sincerely hope so! The

:01:37. > :01:42.money goes to UNICEF, which is important. We are going to be

:01:42. > :01:46.hearing that tune later. It is a big piano number. With as, pianist

:01:46. > :01:55.Peter Mitchell will be playing some of the best-loved Bond themes at

:01:55. > :01:59.the end of the show. Time now for an exclusive, with more than a bit

:01:59. > :02:03.of a Bond twist. Cavers in Somerset have spent the past four years

:02:03. > :02:07.gaining access to a huge underground cavern they've called

:02:07. > :02:14.the Frozen Deep, perhaps occupied by a secret army commanded by a man

:02:14. > :02:18.bent on world domination in a rotating chair with a white cat!

:02:18. > :02:22.No. Yesterday we were the first camera crew to be allowed into the

:02:22. > :02:25.caves. This is the story of how Miranda journeys into the deep and

:02:25. > :02:30.actually reveals whether the diggers have found the biggest

:02:30. > :02:33.underground cavern in Britain. What could be more relaxing than a jaunt

:02:33. > :02:39.in the countryside in the Mendip Hills in Somerset? This is not

:02:39. > :02:44.quite what I had in mind! Today, a few hundred metres from that famous

:02:44. > :02:49.Cheddar gorge case, I'm joining a group whose remarkable subterranean

:02:49. > :02:52.discovery could turn British cave- in on its head. You've got about

:02:52. > :02:59.250 years' worth of caving experience between you today. I can

:02:59. > :03:03.add about a day to that! Martin is part of Mendip cave rescue. Deep

:03:03. > :03:08.underground, he and the team found a vast open chamber which could

:03:08. > :03:13.prove to be Britain's biggest cava. This was found in the early 50s and

:03:13. > :03:17.was just a drafting whole, a crack. Cavers then make it bigger and its

:03:17. > :03:22.lead to what's beyond now. What is the main chamber called? The Frozen

:03:22. > :03:26.Deep. When we're talking about big, how does this cave compared to the

:03:26. > :03:30.rest of the caves in the UK? biggest chamber known in Britain is

:03:30. > :03:38.Gaping Gill in Yorkshire. We don't know yet if it is bigger than that.

:03:38. > :03:47.We hope to find out today. Have you seen the size of that?! My

:03:47. > :03:53.goodness! Blimey! I hope it's not like this all the way. I'm OK at

:03:53. > :03:58.the moment. This is a nice bit, says Gavin. There's a lot of

:03:58. > :04:01.spiders appear. Caving isn't just intensely physical, it is

:04:01. > :04:05.incredibly psychological as well. As I'm going to find out. It's what

:04:05. > :04:09.you call a tight squeeze. They are so many twists and turns and

:04:09. > :04:13.squeezes. Every time I get to where I think the chamber is, there's

:04:13. > :04:17.just more tunnel. This is because we are climbing? This is because

:04:17. > :04:23.we're going down a drop. I will tighten it up for you. What is

:04:23. > :04:29.interesting here is you remember this was dug in the 50s, they

:04:29. > :04:33.stacked these boulders appeared using block and tackle. Some bodies

:04:33. > :04:38.stacked all these boulders one on top of each other. They were

:04:38. > :04:42.digging down at the same time and stacking the boulders or the way up.

:04:42. > :04:46.Martin tells me that the main thing a caber looks for is the feeling of

:04:46. > :04:52.a draft, indicating another chamber beyond and the right direction to

:04:52. > :04:57.dig. It's so tight! This but I'm crawling through was literally a

:04:57. > :05:00.only excavated a month ago. I'm one of the first people to have crawled

:05:00. > :05:06.through it. There are literally only about 12 people who've been

:05:06. > :05:12.through this little tunnel, and now me! We finally arrive. The Frozen

:05:12. > :05:16.Deep is incredible. Wow! It's so huge. My light doesn't even reach

:05:16. > :05:20.the back wall. It's brilliant. What I'd really like to do is give you

:05:20. > :05:26.an idea of what it looks like all lit up. That's what we'd like to

:05:26. > :05:36.see. Even with modern torch as it is just black in the distance.

:05:36. > :05:36.

:05:36. > :05:40.put the lights on, please. It looks just magical. It is amazing. It is

:05:40. > :05:44.fascinating seeing it with the light on. We didn't expect to find

:05:44. > :05:49.so many formations. And the size of them, the pillars, which are about

:05:49. > :05:55.five metres, the stalactites coming out of the ceiling. And then these

:05:55. > :05:59.20 metre below stones. Astonishing. That was formed naturally. Over

:05:59. > :06:04.thousands and thousands of years. When it comes to caving, size is

:06:04. > :06:08.everything. You all want to have the biggest cave. Who owns the

:06:08. > :06:11.record at the moment? Gaping Gill in Yorkshire. But you are hoping to

:06:11. > :06:17.have some measurements which make this possibly the biggest. We are,

:06:17. > :06:27.but we don't know the results. I have the results. Slightly

:06:27. > :06:35.ridiculously to bring an iPad down here. Gaping Gill has an area of

:06:35. > :06:40.2729 square metres. The Frozen Deep is... 2981 square metres.

:06:40. > :06:47.Yorkshire cavers are going to be annoyed. They will be really cross.

:06:47. > :06:52.Congratulations. All you've got to do now is carry all this kicked out.

:06:52. > :07:00.Frozen Deep, it does sounds like the title of a Bond film. He does.

:07:00. > :07:05.We used to go caving on live Volette died in Jamaica. -- live or

:07:06. > :07:14.let dive. We have lights up in this enormous bit which was part of

:07:14. > :07:21.whether villain was. I was standing at the back in the dark. I came

:07:21. > :07:27.forward very slowly from the dark behind the third assistant, who was

:07:27. > :07:35.called A blade. He was about 6 ft 5 and had long, thin legs in little

:07:35. > :07:44.shorts. I came up behind him and went... He went up! Most people

:07:44. > :07:54.fall down. Or jump. He just collapsed. Unfortunately, we don't

:07:54. > :08:00.

:08:00. > :08:10.have a clip of that particular A, Mr Bond, there you are. You are

:08:10. > :08:15.unexpected but most welcome. Two That was the second film I ever saw

:08:15. > :08:22.in my life. After bedknobs and broomsticks. That was the real

:08:22. > :08:30.cave? Half-and-half. That it was in the studio with the water, but most

:08:30. > :08:34.of the other stuff we shot in the real cave. That was quite a nasty

:08:34. > :08:43.bit of water. I think that was where I was taken up and I escaped

:08:43. > :08:47.with Jane Seymour. Then we went in with the sharks. Just an ordinary...

:08:47. > :08:51.Just another day! You will be able to regale everybody with your tales

:08:51. > :08:55.of Bond because you are on tour, starting in Melbourne on Sunday.

:08:55. > :09:03.It's called An Evening with Roger Moore. What can the audience

:09:03. > :09:06.expect? If they come? They will, it sold out. We are trying to get them

:09:06. > :09:14.in Southampton and Bournemouth and Basingstoke at the moment. What I

:09:14. > :09:19.will do is talk about my life up to Bond. And then Bond. And my life

:09:19. > :09:24.since Bond. Which has been terrible! Looking at some of the

:09:24. > :09:30.pictures, I don't know how you survived. It has been hell. We will

:09:30. > :09:35.talk a bit about the book as well later on. Sean Connery was the

:09:35. > :09:42.first man to play Bond on the screen 50 years ago. But he very

:09:42. > :09:52.nearly wasn't. Who stole my guitar? Larry Lamb meets the man who was a

:09:52. > :09:58.

:09:58. > :10:02.whisker away from playing the Sean Connery and James Bond. You

:10:02. > :10:06.can hardly say one without thinking the other. But it wasn't always the

:10:06. > :10:13.case. Things could have looked very different if the producers had

:10:14. > :10:20.chosen somebody else. And in 1961, they very nearly did. Originally

:10:20. > :10:25.the producers had somebody else in line to play the very first Bond.

:10:25. > :10:35.50 years on, few remember him at The One Show has tracked him down.

:10:35. > :10:36.

:10:36. > :10:40.His name is Anthony. Peter Anthony. When the Bond producers Cubby

:10:40. > :10:43.Broccoli and Larry swordsman first wanted to bring Flemming's book to

:10:43. > :10:50.the big screen, they had a hard task ahead of them because Fleming

:10:50. > :10:54.left a lot to the imagination as to what Bond actually looked like.

:10:54. > :10:58.don't have many clues in the books as to Bond's physical appearance,

:10:58. > :11:03.other than that he's quite tall and has dark hair. Beyond that there's

:11:03. > :11:09.not much to go one. Producers were very keen to modernise Flemming's

:11:09. > :11:12.character from a 1950s era into something that was more into the

:11:12. > :11:16.social and cultural changes of the 1960s. They wanted somebody who

:11:16. > :11:20.physically fit the bill, who looked as if he could hand hymns --

:11:20. > :11:26.Campbell himself in the action sequences. The producers were

:11:26. > :11:31.originally reluctant to cast a known actor. So on 20th July 1961,

:11:32. > :11:35.they deployed their secret weapon. After an unsuccessful series of

:11:35. > :11:39.auditions, a national newspaper in collaboration with the studio run a

:11:39. > :11:45.competition to find the first on- screen James Bond. Thousands of

:11:45. > :11:49.people applied at one stood out above the rest. Peter Anthony. A

:11:49. > :11:56.young model from London. And he didn't even know he'd been entered

:11:56. > :12:00.into the contest! A friend of mine sent a photograph in and the nuns

:12:00. > :12:06.to the. The next thing I know I get this letter saying had been

:12:06. > :12:10.selected to have a screen test. Broccoli described him as a Gregory

:12:11. > :12:15.Peck, and said he had an instantly arresting appearance. For him,

:12:15. > :12:20.Peter Anthony was the face of James Bond. So he had the perfect look

:12:20. > :12:25.but there was one thing missing. wasn't a dedicated actor. In fact,

:12:25. > :12:28.I wasn't an actor at all. I've never been in the studio in my life.

:12:28. > :12:35.I was fairly used to working in front of the camera but not a movie

:12:35. > :12:40.camera. What happened next was I was invited round to Harry's office.

:12:41. > :12:45.Do you remember what he said? Basically, well, you haven't got

:12:45. > :12:50.the part. Really? We don't think you've got enough experience for

:12:50. > :12:53.this role, which was obvious to me anyway. I'm happy that I did miss

:12:53. > :13:00.it in some respects. I feel I've been so lucky in my life.

:13:00. > :13:04.regrets? No regrets at all. In the end the part went to a young, up-

:13:04. > :13:09.and-coming actor named Sean Connery. To date there have been more than

:13:09. > :13:16.20 Bond bills and six official incarnations of the secret agent on

:13:16. > :13:20.the big screen. Today the story of Peter Anthony, the first faint --

:13:20. > :13:23.the first phase of James Bond, has all but faded from memory. But in

:13:23. > :13:28.these celebrity obsessed times it's nice to meet someone who came very

:13:28. > :13:35.close to fame but harbours no regrets. So, 50 years on, here is

:13:35. > :13:45.our one show salute to what could have been. But a Martini, shaken

:13:45. > :13:52.

:13:52. > :13:59.What do you think, do you think Peter Anthony would have made a

:13:59. > :14:03.good Bond? He has aged better than I have! I remember that competition.

:14:03. > :14:13.I'd never heard of this story but I remember there was a competition

:14:13. > :14:13.

:14:13. > :14:18.going on in the Daily Express. They said that, after I started Bond,

:14:18. > :14:28.they said that Ian Fleming had me in mind. But Ian Fleming was dead

:14:28. > :14:44.

:14:44. > :14:48.The outfits are fantastically stylish - did you get to keep them?

:14:48. > :14:55.Some of them. But I cannot wear them. The ones that I managed to

:14:55. > :15:04.keep, I cannot wear them, because my waistline has changed somewhat.

:15:04. > :15:08.But there was one particularly beautiful suit. It was done last

:15:08. > :15:16.day of this particular sequence, and I was looking forward to taking

:15:16. > :15:22.this suit home. And Cubby Broccoli was up a ladder, and he said, is

:15:22. > :15:28.that it, boys? Everybody said, yes, Mr broccoli. And he hit me with a

:15:28. > :15:37.whole bucket of paste. This beautiful suit. Because he knew you

:15:37. > :15:41.wanted it so much. There was a double suit. Daniel Craig, he did

:15:41. > :15:49.not take home those famous blue swimming trunks, because they have

:15:49. > :15:52.been auctioned today. He has got a lovely physique, you have to say.

:15:52. > :15:57.But at think you're the most handsome Bond there has been. Were

:15:57. > :16:05.the producers particular about how you looked? Well, they said there

:16:05. > :16:13.was a little overweight, my hair was too long. So, every day I would

:16:13. > :16:18.staff and run for half a mile, fast! And then they would cut your

:16:18. > :16:27.hair. Finally I said to them, why did you not get a bald-headed man,

:16:27. > :16:35.who was nice and skinny, and saved me all of this grief? I look as

:16:35. > :16:41.though I have had my hair cut now, don't I? It disappears. You look

:16:41. > :16:45.good, you can carry it off, Roger. I had double pneumonia earlier this

:16:45. > :16:52.year, I had a tremendous amount of antibiotics, and since then, my

:16:52. > :17:02.hair has been falling out. Every day. And yet you still got more

:17:02. > :17:06.than me. Have I? Yes, it is going at the back. Anyway, moving on...

:17:06. > :17:16.You have been quite close to a few Bond girls, but you were a bit

:17:16. > :17:41.

:17:41. > :17:49.harsh with some of them. Let's just I did nothing! You will never guess

:17:49. > :17:54.what - Caroline Munro, who played that Bond girl, in The Spy Who

:17:54. > :18:00.Loved Me, is with us now. Even though Roger actually killed you,

:18:00. > :18:05.what did you make of working with him? Well, what can I say, he is

:18:05. > :18:14.always my Bond, nobody does it better. What can I say? His sense

:18:14. > :18:20.of humour, obviously, it goes without saying. But what a waste! I

:18:20. > :18:30.mean, a waste to kill you. I know. I think it was Barbara, I think she

:18:30. > :18:33.

:18:33. > :18:40.pushed the bottom. Yes, I never had much time for her. What I would

:18:40. > :18:50.like to know was, off-screen, off camera, did Sir Roger ever raised

:18:50. > :18:51.

:18:51. > :19:01.his eyebrows at you in that way? certainly did. He does it so

:19:01. > :19:08.beautifully. I wish I could do it. Will you do the eyebrows to camera

:19:08. > :19:18.four? There Wiggo. It is the best. We think that nobody does the

:19:18. > :19:22.

:19:22. > :19:32.eyebrows better, so we put it to the public test. How do I do this?

:19:32. > :19:54.

:19:54. > :19:58.I think he looks really good, just like 007. Without the Aston Martin.

:19:58. > :20:06.What a lovely couple, but nobody is as good as you, Roger. To explain

:20:06. > :20:14.the science behind people's eyebrow raising antics is a consultant

:20:14. > :20:18.surgeon, Carrie Newlands. Well, the human face has around 14 pairs of

:20:18. > :20:22.muscles, the highest concentration of muscles in the whole of the

:20:22. > :20:26.human body. We use them to convey expression to other people, and it

:20:26. > :20:31.is one important way of interacting with people. When we raised two

:20:31. > :20:36.eyebrows, we are generally demonstrating surprise, and when we

:20:36. > :20:40.raised one, like Roger, we are sometimes conveying a question. It

:20:40. > :20:44.is thought to be genetic. People have a genetic ability, and they

:20:44. > :20:53.learn to do it as a child and they carry it on into adulthood. Have

:20:53. > :20:58.you seen anyone better at it than Roger? I think he is the best.

:20:58. > :21:07.sad thing about the eyebrow is that, I was under contract to MGM back in

:21:07. > :21:11.the 1950s, and they said, keep your face static, because you're 60 foot

:21:11. > :21:18.high on the screen, and if you raise your eyebrows, it will go up

:21:18. > :21:26.20 feet. So, all my MGM years, I sat with a face like this. And then

:21:26. > :21:33.finally, when I started the St, and nobody ever told me what to do, I

:21:33. > :21:38.maybe raised an eyebrow, and then I ended up saying, yes, as an actor,

:21:38. > :21:45.I had three expressions - left eyebrow, right eyebrow, and it

:21:45. > :21:49.stuck with me. Well, it has done you very well. When John Sergeant

:21:49. > :21:52.heard that Roger was coming into night, he could not resist doing

:21:52. > :21:58.his best impression of a secret agent. Unfortunately, in John's

:21:58. > :22:04.world, that involves wearing a tweed hat. In the world of

:22:04. > :22:07.espionage, spies, like those who work for the Secret Service, have

:22:07. > :22:11.always been worried about how their secrets are communicated. If you're

:22:11. > :22:16.going to be a spy, you have got to know about secret messages and

:22:16. > :22:20.invisible ink. From as early as Roman times, spies, like children

:22:20. > :22:26.across the world today, have used lemon juice to keep their secrets

:22:26. > :22:31.hidden, only to be revealed when heated. But in 1915, British

:22:31. > :22:36.officials intercepted a sheet of music posted by a suspected German

:22:36. > :22:41.spy, and this time, it was not heat that was required to reveal the

:22:41. > :22:48.message, it was a chemical. This was no longer child's play. It was

:22:48. > :22:51.the work of a top spy. He had a strange background - born in

:22:51. > :22:58.Austria, he became a British musical entertainer. After he was

:22:58. > :23:02.caught he was locked up for eight years in Dartmoor. I am at the

:23:03. > :23:07.Imperial War museum in London to meet Roderick, an expert on

:23:07. > :23:13.invisible ink. We have got a secret message here - how is it encoded on

:23:13. > :23:18.the paper? He has written his message behind a musical score. He

:23:18. > :23:22.has done it using an agent, invisible ink. This is then only

:23:22. > :23:27.revealed by applying another agent, to react with the ink, making it

:23:27. > :23:32.visible. This is quite typical of the secret world. The first thing

:23:32. > :23:35.he says it is, can you send me some money. So, he does not really care

:23:35. > :23:43.so much about the naval secrets which come later, it is, I want my

:23:43. > :23:47.money. That's typical, isn't it? Absolut key. This began what became

:23:47. > :23:51.the invisible ink equivalent of the arms race. No sooner had the other

:23:51. > :23:58.side discovered the recipe, then it would change again. German spies

:23:58. > :24:03.also took to hiding their ink in ingenious ways. Soap, antiseptic,

:24:03. > :24:08.toothpaste and even their own clothing were used. We have a pair

:24:08. > :24:13.of socks which belonged to a German spy, was instructions were to

:24:13. > :24:17.dampen the socks and squeeze them, to get the ink out, which he then

:24:17. > :24:22.what used to write his messages. 1918, the Germans were ready to

:24:22. > :24:26.forget their socks, and they invented the ultimate secret ink

:24:26. > :24:30.formula. In America, they thought it was so dangerous, they only

:24:30. > :24:35.released the details last year. I am meeting a chemist to find out

:24:35. > :24:42.why. The science, the chemistry, is complicated. We have got all sorts

:24:42. > :24:47.of things in here. The alcohol has to be at 90 degrees, so it is quite

:24:47. > :24:51.complicated to do. But the most clever part of this method is that

:24:51. > :24:56.this complex chemistry was only required when the message reached

:24:56. > :25:06.the German laboratory. All this by has to do is to have a tablet of

:25:06. > :25:12.aspirin, and some water. The beauty of this is that it is so simple.

:25:12. > :25:15.if you catch the spy, all he says is, I have got some aspirin, what's

:25:15. > :25:20.wrong with that? The development of invisible ink did not go any

:25:20. > :25:24.further because there was only so much information any spy could

:25:24. > :25:27.laboriously right down. By the end of World War II, espionage had

:25:27. > :25:32.embraced photographic techniques, which meant the messages could now

:25:32. > :25:37.be made up of images as well as text. By the end of the war, secret

:25:37. > :25:43.messages can be compressed into tiny dots, which were then

:25:43. > :25:46.disguised as full stops in ordinary documents. Now, the Internet has

:25:46. > :25:54.joined the spying Game, with messages buried inside otherwise

:25:54. > :26:01.innocuous looking images. Secret messages have even been discovered

:26:01. > :26:09.on popular online auction sites. Their contents have only been

:26:09. > :26:16.unlocked when there Spy supplies the right code word. Aspirin, who

:26:16. > :26:21.would have known? Exactly. As we said earlier, the new Bond theme,

:26:21. > :26:31.sung by Adele, was released today, and went straight to the top of the

:26:31. > :26:41.

:26:41. > :26:51.# Let the sky fall # We will stand tall and face it all together.

:26:51. > :26:55.

:26:55. > :27:02.# We will stand tall. # Let the sky fall # Let the sky fall! It is a

:27:02. > :27:06.brilliant song. It is beautiful. That is out on 26th October - are

:27:06. > :27:11.you looking forward to seeing the new film? Yes, but I will not be

:27:11. > :27:18.there, because I shall be in Basingstoke. Do they not have

:27:18. > :27:23.cinemas in Basingstoke? I am doing my one-man bit. How does it feel to

:27:23. > :27:32.see another man play Bond - is it strange for you these days?

:27:32. > :27:42.Humiliating. No, they are all so damn good. But nobody does it

:27:42. > :27:49.

:27:49. > :27:57.better. How clever! And in this film, the character Q is back - do

:27:57. > :28:04.we know who is playing him? always had a lovely Desmond, who is

:28:04. > :28:07.Welsh, by chance! All the best ones are, Sir boccia. Anyway, good luck