06/02/2012

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:00:20. > :00:24.Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker... And Alex Jones.

:00:24. > :00:28.Tonight we are joined by an actress who has starred in the greatest

:00:28. > :00:38.films of all time. Silence Of The Lambs. The Lord Of The Rings.

:00:38. > :00:39.

:00:39. > :00:43.Star Wars! Any excuse for a bit of dressing up. Dawn French! Brilliant.

:00:43. > :00:49.Ultimate comedy. You just have to look at that, and you start

:00:49. > :00:53.laughing. I like The Hobbit. with her make-up right and that is

:00:53. > :00:57.half of the battle. Do you miss dressing up? I still do it, but

:00:57. > :01:03.only for my own pleasure. I absolutely loved it. It was like

:01:03. > :01:07.being in your dressing up box as a kid, having that as your job.

:01:07. > :01:14.and Jennifer have so many great characters. Any favourites?

:01:14. > :01:18.Probably when we did the fat men. Those were my favourite. We could

:01:18. > :01:24.abuse people on our staff, in an unpleasant manner, and get away

:01:24. > :01:29.with it. Visually, I have to say, it reminds me of my daughter. Two

:01:29. > :01:34.years old, dressed up for sledging, four coats. A waterproof suit on

:01:34. > :01:39.the outside. She was like a double ball with a face. She couldn't go

:01:39. > :01:46.sledging at all after that. She was so restricted. Just shove her down

:01:46. > :01:49.the hill! I couldn't do my shoes up, I had so many layers on. Send your

:01:49. > :01:53.pictures of you wrapped up at the weekend and we will show some at

:01:53. > :01:56.the end of the show. The full cost of cleaning the Dale Farm

:01:56. > :02:02.travellers' site in Essex has just been officially announced. It is

:02:02. > :02:06.more than �7 million. And the saga may still not be over. Attention

:02:06. > :02:10.has switched to another site. But it is the residents protesting

:02:11. > :02:14.against the gypsies that are facing eviction.

:02:14. > :02:18.Meriden is Middle England, geographically speaking. Right now

:02:18. > :02:23.they are also slap-bang in the middle of a dispute. The two sides

:02:23. > :02:31.of the argument are quite literally split into two camps. The first one

:02:31. > :02:34.is Romany gypsies. And there is this one, a camps set up by village

:02:34. > :02:42.residents opposing the gipsy site. The council has said that both of

:02:42. > :02:48.them have to go. But this one has to go first. Tell me, what is your

:02:48. > :02:57.problem with this development? is a designated wildlife site, in

:02:57. > :03:00.the green bath, -- green belt, and it is part of a famous walk. We

:03:00. > :03:05.have been in touch with 50 villages around the country that have had

:03:05. > :03:10.the same experience. It is a three- step process. Step one, by the man

:03:10. > :03:13.secretly. Step two, send in the bulldozers, followed by the

:03:13. > :03:19.barristers. Step three, dead a council and the Government to get

:03:19. > :03:23.rid of you. Noah Burton is landowner of the site and the

:03:23. > :03:28.spokesperson for the gypsies. are not defying the council, we are

:03:28. > :03:33.here pending an appeal and an addiction appeal. We are fighting

:03:33. > :03:37.it legally. -- eviction appeal. Tooth and nail, as hard as we can

:03:37. > :03:41.fight it, and legally. But you are not, this is an illegal

:03:41. > :03:46.development? We have nowhere else to go. I have spent everything I

:03:46. > :03:49.have got on this piece of land, for somewhere to live. They are not

:03:49. > :03:54.interested in that Bush or the hedge, they just don't want the

:03:54. > :03:58.caravans. They don't want gypsies here. Some people will look at the

:03:58. > :04:02.camp and say, well, that is classic Middle England. Some of them will

:04:02. > :04:07.even say it is racism. We have had gypsies and travellers in the area

:04:07. > :04:12.for hundreds of years. The last thing we want to do is poison

:04:12. > :04:17.relations with those people. If you are given an acceptable site

:04:17. > :04:20.somewhere else, that everybody has had a democratic voice and a chance

:04:20. > :04:26.to agree on, they said they would be happy. They said they have

:04:26. > :04:30.always been gypsies here. Have there? Every time the council

:04:30. > :04:36.trying, they say, we don't want that site there. They don't care

:04:36. > :04:43.where it is. Its gypsies, we don't want it. That is not green belt, it

:04:43. > :04:46.is anti-gypsy. Both camps are facing eviction. What happens next?

:04:47. > :04:51.In the High Court, the law moves very slowly sometimes. We have

:04:52. > :04:55.moved as quickly as we can within our legal powers. As a council, you

:04:55. > :05:01.have a responsibility to provide an allocation for the gypsy community.

:05:01. > :05:05.Is that there? It is. We have a number of long-established sites.

:05:05. > :05:10.We are currently going through a further assessment to see if more

:05:10. > :05:13.are needed. This is land grab that we are looking at? It is a

:05:13. > :05:18.situation that is being replicated across the country on different

:05:18. > :05:22.sites. That seems to be the way in which it has been done, very often

:05:22. > :05:28.over a bank holiday weekend. reality is that you're camp will be

:05:28. > :05:33.gone long before that development over there. Even though this

:05:33. > :05:36.temporary structure might come down, our campaign is not going away. We

:05:36. > :05:41.will stay until we see the enforcement of the decisions that

:05:41. > :05:51.we have won. They do not care about us. It's not green belt, they just

:05:51. > :05:52.

:05:52. > :06:01.Now, it you are back with a brand new series of Roger And Val Just

:06:01. > :06:03.For people that have not seen it, it is a married couple and it

:06:03. > :06:09.follows then in real time after they have got in from work. When

:06:09. > :06:13.lots of people get home, The One Show is on. But we did have a look

:06:13. > :06:20.and there was no sign of it. don't have the television on in the

:06:20. > :06:27.background in this show. We always blame the writers. If you had

:06:27. > :06:31.written it, it would have been used. But it was your idea? Yes. I wanted

:06:31. > :06:35.to do with a show about a happily married couple. You have seen it

:06:35. > :06:41.too often before, when couples are arguing. I wanted to see one that

:06:41. > :06:44.were battling something, but not each other. In the first series, we

:06:44. > :06:48.found out that there was a bit... Not a secret, exactly, but

:06:48. > :06:53.something very difficult inside that house, the tragic death of

:06:53. > :06:56.their child 18 years before. This is a couple that are trying to live

:06:56. > :07:01.through it, get on and distract themselves. They love each other

:07:01. > :07:05.very much. They kind of play, really, in order to have a happy

:07:05. > :07:10.life. They are just trying to be nice human beings and love each

:07:10. > :07:15.other. What is on the cards for them this time? This time there is

:07:15. > :07:20.a secret. This time it comes from outside the house. It comes inside.

:07:20. > :07:27.I can't tell you too much. As it unravels, it is a massive threat to

:07:27. > :07:31.the kind of very loving marriage. It is something neither of them

:07:31. > :07:41.expected and it could totally shake them. This is what starts to

:07:41. > :07:42.

:07:42. > :07:48.unravel at the end? A little clue! When I walk into that room, I will

:07:48. > :07:55.not be alone. I will, in fact, be accompanied by three remarkable

:07:55. > :08:01.women. By Martina Navratilova... By Hillary Clinton... And by Margaret,

:08:01. > :08:11.that used to be on The Apprentice. I know it looks odd. I know that.

:08:11. > :08:16.But it's the only way I can think We should as you were going into an

:08:16. > :08:21.interview, naming three people that you would like to take with you.

:08:21. > :08:28.thought we would have a go ourselves. You are completely mad!

:08:28. > :08:32.I have chosen Stephen Fry, extra intelligent. Alan Carr, in case it

:08:32. > :08:39.gets awkward so. He has always has a joke. And Kate Middleton, always

:08:39. > :08:43.stylish and behaves. You don't want to behave! Well, if it is a job

:08:43. > :08:47.interview. I went for Albert Einstein, so I can answer any

:08:47. > :08:55.question. Usain Bolt, if it is going badly I can get out of there

:08:55. > :09:02.fast. And Tim Vine. He has a line for anything. Well done! Excellent

:09:02. > :09:09.box work. Who would you have in real life? Well, I would have the

:09:09. > :09:14.actual Queen. I would have the queen of comedy, Jennifer Saunders.

:09:14. > :09:19.I have to say that, otherwise I will be killed. And the Queen of

:09:20. > :09:28.the world, Russell Grant. Good choice! You can take that off now.

:09:28. > :09:32.I have to say, it does suit you. Thanks. We can rock a box. Anyway,

:09:32. > :09:38.Cumbria starts on Wednesday night, 10pm on BBC Two. Now it time for a

:09:38. > :09:42.bit of history, as we once again examined the customs surrounding

:09:42. > :09:46.British life. Today it is the traditional funeral, and how it has

:09:46. > :09:49.its roots in Georgian pomp and ceremony.

:09:49. > :09:54.The 18th and 19th centuries were the height of decadence and

:09:54. > :09:59.extravagant living in Britain. That was matched in death. At no other

:09:59. > :10:02.time in history were funerals such a huge event as in Georgian Britain.

:10:02. > :10:09.George and entrepreneurial skills were keen to get into this mortal

:10:09. > :10:16.market. Dr Mark Jane Eyre is an expert on the cult surrounding

:10:16. > :10:19.death in Georgian times. Funerals were all -- always a way of saying

:10:19. > :10:24.how important she were. When they buried Admiral Nelson, there was

:10:24. > :10:28.this massive procession from the Admiralty to St Paul's. It is so

:10:28. > :10:36.long that when the front reached St Paul's, the back had not started

:10:36. > :10:41.moving! His funeral was part of this entire funeral culture, in

:10:41. > :10:48.which how you were buried said so much about who you had been. There

:10:48. > :10:53.must have been people making money out of it. Oh, yes. In fact, the

:10:53. > :10:59.18th century is when you see the undertaker really taking off. This

:10:59. > :11:03.was a period of growing funeral bling. The population of England

:11:03. > :11:09.and Wales in the Georgian period more than doubled, from 6 million

:11:09. > :11:16.to over 15 million. Tiny metal plots like this found themselves

:11:16. > :11:21.with more than 70,000 bodies in them. Each year, another 40,000

:11:21. > :11:27.were being directed their way. Such numbers meant churchyards quickly

:11:27. > :11:30.became fall. Julie is from the cemetery research group at York

:11:30. > :11:35.University and is a world expert and government adviser on burial

:11:35. > :11:40.history. The demand for space was rapidly overcoming any ability of

:11:40. > :11:45.the churchyard to accommodate it. Around that time, a local man wrote

:11:45. > :11:48.a report and said the churchyards were sodden with human flesh.

:11:48. > :11:51.People had ceremonies and there were bones sticking out of the

:11:51. > :11:57.ground. Very grim places. answer to the overcrowded

:11:57. > :12:02.churchyards was this, the SEN -- cemetery, which started appearing

:12:02. > :12:06.in the 1830s. You could buy a perpetual grave there. In the

:12:06. > :12:11.churchyard, people were disturbed within weeks. Here, people could

:12:11. > :12:14.say you were here forever. Quite luxurious? When it first opened,

:12:15. > :12:18.special trains came to look at it because it was so crammed. You

:12:18. > :12:23.could see the promenade, not just for the funeral but for people to

:12:23. > :12:27.visit. Into the Victorian period, these super cemeteries opened

:12:27. > :12:33.across Britain. It wasn't just where you were buried, it was how.

:12:33. > :12:39.There was a strict code of conduct. I have come to one of England's

:12:39. > :12:42.finest Georgian homes, in Ripon, to meet Gillian Stapleton, who has

:12:42. > :12:47.studied the do's and don'ts of Georgian mourning. You have some

:12:47. > :12:53.tiny things. What are they? These are mourning approaches from the

:12:53. > :12:59.Regency. That particular one is from about 1820. Him at the centre

:12:59. > :13:04.is some hair. That would be given to somebody as a gift. The pills

:13:04. > :13:09.around the edge signified a widow's tears. What was the normal

:13:09. > :13:15.procedure following a death? were expected to be in mourning for

:13:15. > :13:19.a close relative for between one and two years. The widow would be

:13:19. > :13:22.expected to stay in black for six months. Then it would be back with

:13:22. > :13:29.touches of Wight for six months. Then she could go into half

:13:29. > :13:35.mourning. Caroline, show us what you are wearing. This would be

:13:35. > :13:38.respectable half mourning for about 1800. It is very subtle colours.

:13:38. > :13:43.You get dark brown stripes and a sash of black around the waist.

:13:43. > :13:47.That definitely signify is you are in mourning. In Georgian Britain,

:13:47. > :13:51.if you wanted to die a respectable death there was only one way to go,

:13:51. > :13:55.the very best way that money could buy. From princesses to paupers,

:13:55. > :14:04.fantastic funerals were high fashion in Georgian Britain. Many

:14:04. > :14:11.people would agree that you should A slightly morbid subject. But

:14:11. > :14:16.lovely to see you, none the less. But it wasn't just the rich that

:14:16. > :14:21.were worried about their terminal resting-place? It was everybody. It

:14:21. > :14:25.meant so much to people. In some ways, a big send-off was the last

:14:25. > :14:28.thing you could do. It was a show of love, that you could do for

:14:29. > :14:33.whoever you had lost. People really believed in that time that you

:14:33. > :14:38.needed your whole body intact if you were to be resurrected. None of

:14:38. > :14:41.this organ donor stuff that we feel much happier with. People were

:14:41. > :14:45.really minded about how you went into the earth because that was how

:14:45. > :14:50.you were going to rise up afterwards. Even after we were

:14:50. > :14:54.buried, they couldn't necessarily rest in peace, could they? It is

:14:54. > :15:01.also the time of the body snatcher. You know, Burke and Hare and all of

:15:01. > :15:05.that. The doctors work desperately trying to get hold of corpses for

:15:05. > :15:10.doing teaching, to learn to be better at doctors. Traditionally,

:15:10. > :15:14.only criminals that had been hung, only they were allowed to be cut up.

:15:14. > :15:24.There were not enough of them about. You get a trade in digging up

:15:24. > :15:26.

:15:26. > :15:31.corpses and selling them. I can't I can't see a problem with that,

:15:31. > :15:35.can you? But the lengths that one went to protect them was

:15:35. > :15:40.extraordinary? Amazing. It was like an arms race. You start with people

:15:40. > :15:45.digging up bodies, so then they put a great slab on tonne.

:15:45. > :15:49.That is fair enough. So the grave diggers go in around

:15:49. > :15:53.the side and drag the body out. Next are these things, coffin

:15:53. > :15:59.colours, so they go around the neck of a person in their coffin.

:15:59. > :16:06.That is grim. It is, isn't it sn.

:16:06. > :16:10.Still it did not stop. Then the cages were introduced? Yes,

:16:10. > :16:16.mortstone. That sinks into the ground and prevents anyone from

:16:16. > :16:19.breaking in, digging in. I'm going in a firework! I have told my

:16:19. > :16:25.family already. Thank you very much, Ruth.

:16:25. > :16:30.Now, from the end of life to the beginning. On the 25th of July,

:16:30. > :16:34.1978, the world's first IVF baby, Louis Joy Brown was born in Greater

:16:34. > :16:39.Manchester at Oldham District Hospital.

:16:39. > :16:44.Fast forward and although thousands of couples have received IVF, not

:16:44. > :16:48.everyone who wants treatment can get it free.

:16:48. > :16:52.This doctor under stands the true cost of some trying to become

:16:52. > :16:55.parents. Every child is precious. There come as point in many

:16:56. > :17:00.people's lives when starting a family is one of the most important

:17:00. > :17:06.things to do, but as many as one in seven couples experience

:17:06. > :17:12.difficulties when conceiving. One of the most effective ways of

:17:12. > :17:16.helping nature along is in vitro fertilisation, IVF.

:17:16. > :17:21.Eggs are harvested from a woman and fertilised with sperm in a lab. If

:17:21. > :17:28.the process is successful, the embryos are returned to the womb.

:17:28. > :17:34.If all goes to plan, nine months later a babe is born, but it is --

:17:34. > :17:40.a baby is born, but it is an expensive process. The 2004

:17:40. > :17:46.National Institute for Clinical Excellence recommends that coups

:17:46. > :17:52.are offered three cycles of IVF, that all depends where you live.

:17:52. > :17:54.Some Primary Care Trusts offer two cycles, some one, and some none.

:17:54. > :17:59.Although the Department of Health encourages Primary Care Trusts to

:17:59. > :18:04.take account of the guidelines, it is up to them how much funding they

:18:05. > :18:11.allocate to fertility treatments. Last year over 70% of PCTs in the

:18:11. > :18:16.UK offered less than the recommended three cycles. In North

:18:16. > :18:21.Staffordshire, where Melanie and David live, their prift has not

:18:21. > :18:25.funded any cycles since 2006. -- Primary Care Trust.

:18:25. > :18:29.We had been trying for six years for a baby. We had no success. We

:18:29. > :18:32.went to the doctor, she said because of the time we had been

:18:32. > :18:38.trying that IVF was the next option for us.

:18:38. > :18:43.That if we were to go for it, we would have to pay privately.

:18:43. > :18:50.After scraping together �5,000, they paid for their first cycle of

:18:50. > :18:58.IVF. When it didn't work the first time

:18:58. > :19:04.it's horrendous. I could cry now. Sorry.

:19:04. > :19:09.Couples pay a high price financially and emotionally. Mr Sim

:19:09. > :19:13.kins, runs a private fertility clinic in London.

:19:13. > :19:17.Why is it so ebgsz pensive? There are enormous overheads. One has to

:19:17. > :19:22.run a building, complicated machinery and medical equipment and

:19:22. > :19:24.a very large amount of staff are needed and the drugs that we use,

:19:24. > :19:29.they themselves cost at least �1,500.

:19:30. > :19:35.Do you think that the NHS should be offering more? Absolutely.

:19:35. > :19:39.Infertility is not an illness, but it causes an enormous amount of

:19:39. > :19:44.illness. Sadly, many authorities consider it a low priority.

:19:44. > :19:50.NHS resources are stretched, some question whether the service should

:19:50. > :19:56.be offering IVF at all, especially when patients with cancer are being

:19:56. > :20:04.refused drugs to prolong their lives as it is too expensive.

:20:04. > :20:08.This man is an NHS fertility consultant who works for Guy's in

:20:08. > :20:14.south London. Before he can decide whether to offer IVF he has to

:20:14. > :20:18.check their postcode. I help to achieve people to have a

:20:18. > :20:23.healthy baby. I would love ideally to focus on what should be done

:20:23. > :20:25.medically and being able to offer it successfully, in a caring and

:20:25. > :20:29.consideriate way, rather than spending time on discussing the

:20:29. > :20:32.finances. Costs for IVF varies on the

:20:32. > :20:37.complexity of the treatment required.

:20:37. > :20:42.Justine has spent �20,000 trying to have a baby. She is considering

:20:42. > :20:48.going abroad to say money on her treatment. The Infertility Network

:20:48. > :20:51.UK say that the numbers are growing. Our last psyche until London cost

:20:51. > :20:58.about �10,000 with special treatments that I needed added in.

:20:58. > :21:01.In Greece, I think that I can have the same, including the drugs for

:21:01. > :21:07.about �30,700-ish. When do you think you might decide

:21:07. > :21:12.that enough is enough? I think that I might just try one more time. I

:21:12. > :21:18.don't know if that is denial. How many times have you said that?

:21:18. > :21:21.Never. For Melanie and Christian after two cycles of I've and

:21:21. > :21:24.spending �10,000, they were successful. Here is the result,

:21:24. > :21:28.two-year-old Jack. To find out we were pregnant was

:21:28. > :21:32.the best day. It is like winning the lottery ten fold. I would have

:21:32. > :21:38.paid anything to get the little man that we have got now. He is amazing.

:21:38. > :21:43.I would not put a price on his head at all.

:21:43. > :21:47.A happy ending for Melanie and Christian. Well, Dr Sarah Jarvis is

:21:47. > :21:52.with us us, but first, Dawn, this is a subject that is close to your

:21:52. > :21:56.heart. You went through IVF 20 years ago? I did.

:21:56. > :22:00.Where do you think that the NHS should be drawing the line with the

:22:00. > :22:05.amount of treatment that should be allowed? I think that each person

:22:05. > :22:10.should have at least 84 goes, frankly. You should be able to keep

:22:10. > :22:15.doing it until you can conceive. It is heartbreaking when you can't.

:22:15. > :22:22.Why don't all of the trusts have to follow the NICE guidelines?

:22:22. > :22:27.would think it would be obvious. That we would have medicines, but

:22:27. > :22:33.then NICE says no. The bizarre thing is if they say yes, then it

:22:33. > :22:36.is a clinical thing, there is a guideline. I think it is really sad.

:22:36. > :22:40.This is national. Then there the postcode lottery.

:22:40. > :22:46.Good luck to all of the couples going through IVF at the moment.

:22:46. > :22:51.Thank you. Time now for our bug man Dr George

:22:51. > :22:54.McGavin to start digging through his wardrobe. He is in search of a

:22:54. > :22:59.hungry household invader that enjoys nothing more than dining out

:22:59. > :23:06.on our clothes. Now this is something that we don't

:23:06. > :23:11.want to see in our clothes, tiny holes. You think it is normal wear

:23:11. > :23:16.and tear, but it's been eaten, in fact, by this. The clothes moth.

:23:16. > :23:23.Contrary to what you may think it is not the adults that eat your

:23:23. > :23:28.clothes it is the larvae. Whereas most caterpillars are

:23:28. > :23:33.vegetarian, this family of moths has become the scourge of mankind.

:23:33. > :23:42.They've evolved to digest fibre, wool and even dead animals. It

:23:42. > :23:46.seems that they are becoming more common. One Show viewer Stuart,

:23:46. > :23:50.noticed that his wardrobe had unwelcome visitors.

:23:50. > :23:55.A couple of years ago we started to see a lot of moths flying around.

:23:55. > :24:01.Then in the back of the wardrobe we zis covered that old cardigan we

:24:01. > :24:07.had bought it a few years ago. There! Yes, there may abmoth about

:24:07. > :24:12.to come out. That is proib -- probably one that has hatched

:24:12. > :24:18.already. That is an obvious sign there is an infestation. When they

:24:18. > :24:23.have fed enough, they are about to pupate they normally migrate to

:24:23. > :24:30.where they are eating to the edge of the area, so when they emerge as

:24:30. > :24:34.adults they can fly off easily. This truly is the lost land of the

:24:34. > :24:43.clothes moth! To understand how to tackle this modern scourge, we have

:24:44. > :24:46.to go back to its roots. Before they began devouring our

:24:46. > :24:52.clothes they lived somewhere quite different.

:24:52. > :25:02.In fact, their home would have originally been in a nest of wild

:25:02. > :25:05.birds. In particular... Barn owls. Today the barn owl network here are

:25:05. > :25:10.removing the chicks from their nests to be ringed.

:25:10. > :25:16.That is very, very cute. It has two legs, I usually specialise in

:25:16. > :25:21.things with a lot more legs. As a -- adorable as they are, it is

:25:21. > :25:25.not the chicks that I have come to see. It is beautiful.

:25:25. > :25:30.It is actually their leftovers that I have more interest in.

:25:30. > :25:35.This is why I am here, what I have come to find. It is an owl pellet.

:25:35. > :25:40.It is not what you think, this rather large lump is regurgitated

:25:40. > :25:46.by the owl as it contains all of the bits that they cannot digest,

:25:46. > :25:51.like fur, teeth, bones. Things that the cloth moth has no problem to

:25:52. > :25:57.tackle into. If you break open the pellets, you find what the owls

:25:57. > :26:03.have been eating, but also, the larvae of the clothes moth. There

:26:03. > :26:08.is one right there. The larvae have evolved powerful enzymes that make

:26:08. > :26:14.the undigestable, digestable. The adult clothes moth will lay its

:26:14. > :26:20.eggs on the pellets so that the young can pupate and then the young

:26:20. > :26:26.can have something to eat when they enerpblg. -- emerge, but how did it

:26:26. > :26:31.get from the owl to our wardrobes? Well it may not look like, but to a

:26:31. > :26:35.clothes moth, the owl's nest and the wardrobe are similar. They are

:26:35. > :26:41.dark, warm, safe from enemies and there is lots of food. So, we have

:26:41. > :26:46.to make our homes not feel like a barn out nest. Good house keeping

:26:46. > :26:49.is key. Moths hate disturbance. Lavender seems to keep the adults

:26:49. > :26:55.away. But the most important thing is to

:26:55. > :27:00.keep the moths from getting in the first place. The best tips come

:27:00. > :27:05.from the museum, dedicated to preserving precious fabrics. They

:27:05. > :27:10.have discovered that cloths moths cannot survive a deep freeze. So

:27:10. > :27:17.before you add that vintage jumper to your collection, try sticking it

:27:17. > :27:20.in the freezer for a couple of weeks. By keeping the house as moth

:27:21. > :27:25.unfriendly as possible, you may stand a fighting chance. Of course,

:27:25. > :27:29.put the jumper in your freezer! Sorry if you were eating your tea.

:27:29. > :27:33.We watched it this afternoon, I had trouble getting through a fruit

:27:33. > :27:40.salad. Thank you very much for all of the photosow have been sending

:27:40. > :27:44.-- photos you have been sending in. This is Ruby from Yorkshire.

:27:44. > :27:52.She has cold hand syndrome, woollen gloves in the snow, never a good

:27:52. > :28:01.idea. And Dawn? I have twinss Ruby and

:28:01. > :28:05.Rose. I have to say, the massively talented woman who write my show

:28:05. > :28:10.are twins. They look exactly like that! This is from Emily, who is

:28:10. > :28:14.eight. This is her brother, Michael, going down the hill by himself for

:28:14. > :28:18.the first time. A big day. This is Karen on the top

:28:18. > :28:22.of a lovely hill in the Lake District. That is on Friday,

:28:22. > :28:27.looking nice and cold there. Lovely stuff. Before we go, you

:28:27. > :28:33.have another novel out? I have yes. Finishing it off.

:28:33. > :28:35.In pencil. I found that amazing? do. I have never written on a

:28:35. > :28:39.computer ever. Never used a computer.

:28:39. > :28:46.Come back and see us in October. I will do.

:28:46. > :28:51.Thank you very much for coming on the show, Roger and Val starts on