:00:20. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.
:00:24. > :00:27.And Alex Jones. Our guests tonight are two singers who could hardly be
:00:27. > :00:37.more different. But we think they would nestle together rather nicely
:00:37. > :00:54.
:00:54. > :00:58.in a fantasy record collection. He's the rough and ready poet from
:00:58. > :01:00.Dagenham who actually does want to change the world. And she's someone
:01:00. > :01:02.half the country would like to spend their summer nights with.
:01:02. > :01:12.It's Olivia Newton-John and Billy Bragg.
:01:12. > :01:20.
:01:20. > :01:30.You've both been in the music industry for well over 30 years. Is
:01:30. > :01:34.
:01:34. > :01:42.this the first time you've ever met? This is the first time. It is
:01:42. > :01:45.so easy stages pass like ships in the night at.
:01:45. > :01:55.Olivia, you're here to start your first tour since 1978 for goodness
:01:55. > :01:55.
:01:55. > :02:00.sake, what kept you away so long? cannot believe that. Why so long?
:02:00. > :02:04.don't like to rush. I have been coming back over here and singing
:02:05. > :02:07.with Cliff Richard's, I did not realise it was so long.
:02:07. > :02:10.Billy you've been touring the UK pretty much non-stop since the
:02:10. > :02:16.early 80s, any advice for Olivia on the best venues, motorway service
:02:16. > :02:24.stations? I have played a few, yes. I know
:02:24. > :02:27.where to get a decent cup of tea at 2:00am and a bacon sandwich. Later
:02:27. > :02:30.this evening we have a world exclusive, a musical premiere never
:02:30. > :02:33.seen or heard before and probably never again. Billy Bragg will
:02:33. > :02:43.perform an Olivia Newton-John song. Are you ready for it Billy?
:02:43. > :02:43.
:02:43. > :02:47.I am ready. Billy has always been known as a proud Dagenham and
:02:47. > :02:50.Barking boy. So proud in fact he immortalised it in his take on
:02:50. > :02:53.Route 66 called A13, Trunk Road to the Sea and Iwan Thomas is in
:02:53. > :02:58.Dagenham for us tonight to spread a bit more Essex pride aren't you,
:02:58. > :03:00.Iwan? Yes, I started in Wapping, ain't no
:03:00. > :03:03.stopping, bypassed Barking and went straight through Dagenham to the
:03:03. > :03:06.Civic Centre, why? Because tonight in Billy's honour I'll be
:03:06. > :03:08.celebrating and meeting some of the finest people who live in this very
:03:08. > :03:12.town and championing their great achievements. The film, Made in
:03:12. > :03:14.Dagenham, is getting its TV premiere on the BBC this weekend
:03:14. > :03:24.but there's more to this place than the Cortina, as we'll find out
:03:24. > :03:30.later. The civic centre. I have been there
:03:30. > :03:36.many times that. It is interesting with made in Dagenham being on as
:03:36. > :03:42.well. I rode the theme song with David Donald. He got in touch with
:03:42. > :03:52.me, I went to see it, and he asked me did I fancy writing some lyrics.
:03:52. > :03:53.
:03:53. > :04:03.We will talk more about your music been a bit. More is being spent
:04:03. > :04:03.
:04:03. > :04:07.online every year. For some people, shopping on the
:04:07. > :04:13.High Street is not the easiest option. Take Chris from Essex, with
:04:13. > :04:18.limited mobility, he prefers to buy online. But even on the most
:04:18. > :04:22.reputable website, things are not always what they seem. We decided
:04:22. > :04:27.to buy a new television because I had been having problems hearing
:04:27. > :04:32.the other one. I found a television on Amazon and it was a reasonable
:04:32. > :04:37.price. It was the free delivery that sold it to us. Chris decided
:04:37. > :04:44.to shop on Amazon because of the Consumer Protection it offers
:04:44. > :04:49.through its guaranteed. It means any purchase on Amazon is protected,
:04:49. > :04:55.even if it is with another company or private seller. As long as you
:04:55. > :05:01.do the deal through Amazon itself. Chris ordered his TV to a private
:05:01. > :05:09.seller on Amazon, but the bill he received with the address of A-Z
:05:09. > :05:15.Amazon .co.uk. It said services Amazon. It did not ring any alarm
:05:15. > :05:20.bells because Amazon have their own a to Z service. Everything just
:05:20. > :05:26.looked perfect. But this isn't the Amazon website and Chris is the
:05:26. > :05:32.victim of an elaborate con. Despite paying �920, he has never received
:05:32. > :05:36.his television. The fake website looks like Amazon, works like
:05:36. > :05:44.Amazon and knows your personal Amazon details. This is Amazon
:05:44. > :05:51..co.uk. I am locked in. Now we go to the fake Amazon site. I am still
:05:51. > :05:55.locked in. That is my account. How have they done that? It is such a
:05:55. > :06:01.very clever scam. There is no reason to believe it is fake.
:06:01. > :06:05.Everybody who has seen it has said the same thing. It is Amazon.
:06:05. > :06:10.site was so convincing, Chris agreed to transfer his money
:06:10. > :06:19.straight into what he thought was an Amazon bank account. It is a lot
:06:19. > :06:29.of money to lose, �920? Yes, nobody can afford to lose it. Gutted and
:06:29. > :06:35.annoyed, frustrated. Sick really. How has become man managed to
:06:35. > :06:39.seemingly copy Amazon's website? Tony is a former police officer who
:06:39. > :06:44.works as an internet security expert for the Government. Your
:06:44. > :06:49.technical men had been looking at this website, what is going on?
:06:49. > :06:54.What you see is the Amazon website. But they put something called a
:06:54. > :07:00.wire frame over it, like a shell. You're looking at it through a
:07:00. > :07:04.third party website. That the website was used by the scam
:07:04. > :07:08.merchants during Chris away from the real site and duping him into
:07:08. > :07:13.using a direct bank transfer instead of Amazon's protected card
:07:13. > :07:18.payment system. Basically the conman has convinced Chris to go
:07:18. > :07:22.off the Amazon website to deal with him through e-mail? Most of the big
:07:22. > :07:26.companies lead deal with will say, don't go away from the main site.
:07:26. > :07:31.The security features within the website will protect you. By taking
:07:31. > :07:37.you away from it, the protection has gone. What about the command
:07:37. > :07:41.behind it. We tried to contact him, but surprisingly we did not hear
:07:41. > :07:46.back. Their business address happens to be the House of a
:07:46. > :07:49.pensioner, who knew nothing about it. But Chris is hundreds of pounds
:07:49. > :07:55.out of pocket and has been less than impressed with Amazon's
:07:55. > :08:00.response. They cannot impose their guarantee because I did not to buy
:08:00. > :08:04.it through Amazon, as it turns out. Even if you which wrecked? Even if
:08:04. > :08:14.you are tricked. We asked Amazon if they were going to do something
:08:14. > :08:23.
:08:23. > :08:28.As for Chris, he has had to pay out another �1,000 to finally get the
:08:28. > :08:38.television he wanted. This time from a legitimate salad. It is a
:08:38. > :08:50.
:08:50. > :08:55.Our consumer champion, Matt Allwright, is here. Matt, just how
:08:55. > :08:59.did Tony get caught up in this because it's complicated isn't it?
:08:59. > :09:09.He was re directed to what looked like an Amazon website, but it was
:09:09. > :09:13.
:09:13. > :09:20.not. The A-Z guaranteed they offer, it is recognisable but it is not
:09:20. > :09:26.the same as the Amazon website. It is a wire frame and fits over the
:09:26. > :09:33.top. The thing you're looking at the real thing. Did Chris get his
:09:33. > :09:39.money back? No, and it is unlikely he will do. Amazon have taken the
:09:39. > :09:43.person selling off the site, but the site is still alive. The fake
:09:43. > :09:47.site is still there. They cannot track them down or get rid of it?
:09:47. > :09:51.No, it is to the got to know whether it is alive and still
:09:51. > :09:56.taking business. The best thing to do is play safe. I dread to think
:09:56. > :10:06.how much money they have taken. What advice do you have about
:10:06. > :10:07.
:10:07. > :10:10.people who are concerned? Firstly, type the website address
:10:10. > :10:14.in manually rather than clicking to it via a third-party website. Check
:10:14. > :10:17.you've typed it correctly. Next, make sure the payment is secure.
:10:17. > :10:20.You can tell this by looking out for two main things:
:10:20. > :10:23.There should be a padlock symbol in the browser window frame, which
:10:23. > :10:27.appears when you attempt to log in or register. Be sure that the
:10:27. > :10:30.padlock is in the browser and not on the page itself. And second, the
:10:30. > :10:33.web address should begin with https:// - the 'S' stands for
:10:33. > :10:36.secure. Look at how it's asking you to pay. Asking to transfer money
:10:36. > :10:38.into a bank account is unusual. And finally, remember as always that
:10:38. > :10:47.paying by credit card offers greater protection against fraud
:10:47. > :10:54.than with other methods. But online fraud isn't just
:10:54. > :10:58.happening when you pay, is it Matt? Fraudulence reviews are being
:10:58. > :11:02.posted on sites. There will be comments afterwards a weather has
:11:02. > :11:06.been a survey and it is printed in one of the broadsheets that says
:11:06. > :11:11.companies are getting people overseas to review their
:11:11. > :11:15.competitors poorly and themselves well. It is estimated in a few
:11:15. > :11:19.years, one in seven reviews on websites will be fraudulent.
:11:19. > :11:26.when you are looking for a hotel or something, you cannot believe what
:11:26. > :11:36.you read? You must know all about this?
:11:36. > :11:40.
:11:40. > :11:45.could name the names. When people are searching for something like a
:11:45. > :11:50.television, so many on the market, you put the television you want in,
:11:50. > :11:54.up come all the offers. You are looking at the cheapest. You trust
:11:54. > :11:59.in the internet. Perhaps too much will stop you go to the cheapest
:11:59. > :12:06.one, you don't look into the name of the website. That is the problem.
:12:06. > :12:16.It is led by the price rather than security. We all love a bargain.
:12:16. > :12:19.Chris, we do hope you are enjoying your television. The Duchess of
:12:19. > :12:22.Cambridge visited Grimsby yesterday where she met a few locals and some
:12:22. > :12:25.fire fighters. If she's got a soft spot for fire fighters, perhaps she
:12:25. > :12:32.should trot off down to Sommerset with Alex Riley to meet their
:12:32. > :12:37.latest recruit. Not Fireman Sam, but Fireman Ham.
:12:37. > :12:43.As a fire fighter you need to be prepared. Flames, explosions,
:12:43. > :12:47.saving lives. And then there is rescuing the animals. Rescuing
:12:47. > :12:52.animals has become an increasing part of the firefighter's job. That
:12:52. > :12:58.is why fire and rescue Service are running courses to train
:12:58. > :13:03.firefighters to evacuate, save and catch the animals. We get about 150
:13:03. > :13:07.animal rescues a year. There have become a number of incidents of
:13:07. > :13:12.animals becoming trapped and their owners trying to rescue them, I'm
:13:12. > :13:17.getting injured or killed. With us doing it by the right training, it
:13:17. > :13:22.makes it safer for the public and the animals. Part of this is for
:13:22. > :13:25.them to get experience of working with the animals and understand
:13:25. > :13:30.their behaviour and thinking, so when they go to an incident they
:13:30. > :13:37.can remove an animal into a place of safety. In the training is some
:13:37. > :13:41.sheep, a turkey called cranberry, a horse called James, and a 14 stone
:13:41. > :13:45.pig. When you go to move your animals in the event of an
:13:45. > :13:51.evacuation, always no way you will be putting these animals. Animal
:13:51. > :13:55.rescue trainer, Dawn Watkins knows how to save an animal's bacon. You
:13:55. > :14:00.deal with a different range of animals, how does a piggy behave
:14:00. > :14:05.differently to a turkey? Most people would use pig boards and
:14:05. > :14:10.sticks. The firefighters had used in the past, and riot shields. With
:14:10. > :14:14.paltry, you are teaching them to use sticks because it gives them an
:14:14. > :14:18.extension of their arms so it gives them a wider area to help guide the
:14:18. > :14:23.animals. When the firefighters arrive they are usually worried
:14:23. > :14:28.about getting up close to these animals. They are large. By the end
:14:28. > :14:38.of the day, they know where they can position themselves to avoid
:14:38. > :14:40.
:14:40. > :14:44.getting injured and how to minimise Another pig $:/STARTFEED.
:14:44. > :14:47.Successfully transferred to a place of safety. For many of the
:14:47. > :14:51.firefighters, their job is the only place where they are in contact
:14:51. > :14:55.with animals. Some of us have been around animals
:14:55. > :15:01.before. Some of us haven't. The ones that haven't have never dealt
:15:01. > :15:06.with a cow or a shop before and it gives them confidence when we have
:15:06. > :15:11.got to approach it and go to it. Things like today will help us know
:15:11. > :15:14.how to keep animals relaxed. Before, it was trial and error and standard
:15:14. > :15:17.procedures we learned and now we have got official training to back
:15:17. > :15:22.it up. What's the most difficult animal to
:15:22. > :15:28.make relaxed? I would say horses because they are flighty.
:15:28. > :15:36.How do you calm a horse? Catch him around the neck.
:15:36. > :15:41.Understanding the way an animal behaves could make the difference
:15:41. > :15:51.between a successful rescue and the rescue that descends into chaos.
:15:51. > :15:52.
:15:52. > :15:58.Anyway, as well as having to rescue for animals, Fire Brigades are
:15:58. > :16:04.recruiting them. I have firefighterer Baz -- firefighter
:16:04. > :16:10.Baz and firefighter, Kerry. How are the dogs helping? They are finding
:16:10. > :16:13.liquids after a fire has occurred. We use it as part of the fire
:16:13. > :16:19.investigation process to speed that process up and save us time and
:16:19. > :16:24.money as well. What do they detect? Ignitable
:16:24. > :16:27.liquids. Everything that comes out of a barrel of oil that's made into
:16:27. > :16:35.petrol or diesel or white spirit, these dogs will find it.
:16:35. > :16:41.You are going to give us a demo with Barley. Dogs are trained to
:16:41. > :16:46.search for tennis balls and we swap the odour of the ball so they
:16:46. > :16:53.search for the smell of the ignitable liquid. The dogs think it
:16:54. > :16:57.is a great game. scen? The idea so to show you how
:16:57. > :17:03.quickly the dogs work and how accurately the dogs work. The dog
:17:03. > :17:07.will not only point to the corner of the tile that has the ignitable
:17:07. > :17:13.liquid on it. There is an X on there. Look at
:17:13. > :17:17.that! I am not talking about that huge X,
:17:17. > :17:23.I am talking about that tiny one there. That's incredible. We will
:17:23. > :17:29.have to have a talk about embers get up gear? The idea is to protect
:17:29. > :17:32.her feet from sharps. The safety of the dogs is par mown and --
:17:32. > :17:37.paramount. With With Paul here, you are a
:17:37. > :17:44.husband and wife team. Paul, how are the dogs affecting the arson
:17:44. > :17:51.numbers? They have been reduced and the fire investigation team to
:17:51. > :17:58.which we like in the Fire Service. Great. Well, keep up the good work
:17:58. > :18:05.and Barley, you are a star! Dogs in boots, isn't that amazing?
:18:05. > :18:11.You are both big dog lovers. You are having a new dog soon? Yes, we
:18:12. > :18:19.are being given a puppy soon. We just lost mine to old age. You lost
:18:19. > :18:23.yours too Yes, we lost Buster to old age.
:18:23. > :18:28.Happy corner here! You are about to embark on your
:18:28. > :18:38.nationwide tour starting in Cardiff on Sunday and then doing the tour
:18:38. > :18:46.
:18:46. > :18:56.you performing in that very town # Love is to care
:18:56. > :19:05.
:19:05. > :19:10.APPLAUSE It is such a warm and cosy voice
:19:10. > :19:19.that you have there. APPLAUSE
:19:19. > :19:22.places. It was No surprise. That was a great song and they sang
:19:22. > :19:27.amazing. Wow. Are you doing anything from
:19:27. > :19:32.Greece? Of course not. Of course not!
:19:32. > :19:40.Of course, I am! Of course I am, yes. It wouldn't be
:19:40. > :19:46.the most fun parts of the show. you tell us which tracks? Yes, I do
:19:46. > :19:52.four songs. I do Youre The One That I Want. I do Summer Nights and We
:19:52. > :19:56.Go Together. 40 years in the business. How do
:19:56. > :20:02.you choose which songs you will do and are you going to change them
:20:02. > :20:08.for each venue? For England I added in songs that were successful and
:20:08. > :20:16.weren't successful anywhere else. And I do country music which is how
:20:16. > :20:20.I started out. My first songs were recorded in England, through Xanadu,
:20:21. > :20:24.through Greece and the different areas of my life and new things
:20:24. > :20:29.that maybe people haven't heard before, healing songs.
:20:29. > :20:39.And you did last year, record a record with John Travolta which we
:20:39. > :20:40.
:20:40. > :20:45.can see here. Is this a tribute to this Christmas record for our
:20:45. > :20:50.charities, for my hospital and for John's son, Jett. John put it
:20:50. > :20:55.fun to do a tip of the hat to Greece.
:20:55. > :20:59.Are you expecting him on the tour? Is there any chance of you hooking
:20:59. > :21:01.up? I doubt not. You and John in Brighton, I can see
:21:02. > :21:05.it now? I don't think it will happen.
:21:06. > :21:09.Speaking of a large catalogue, Billy, you have got the same
:21:09. > :21:14.problem, when you are touring, which you do all the time, how do
:21:14. > :21:19.you go about putting together a list? If I see someone before the
:21:19. > :21:25.show and we mention a song, I have got it on my iPhone and now I have
:21:25. > :21:33.got a band. The task is to take the new songs that the band play and
:21:33. > :21:37.the old songs and get the band to well, we did a show in London and
:21:38. > :21:44.it worked well. I woos woos please -- I was pleased with it.
:21:45. > :21:54.Where is the most unusual place you played? The most unusual? I did a
:21:55. > :21:59.
:21:59. > :22:05.gig last year on Cony Island with Steve Erroll and we played in in
:22:05. > :22:11.front of a big thing that tilts and whirls. The sun went down and we
:22:11. > :22:17.had a hot dog with Woody's daughter. It was beautiful. Woody's great
:22:17. > :22:26.grandchildren joined in. They are tiny kids and they joined in.
:22:26. > :22:35.drinks and then start start writing a letter to a celebrity? No one!
:22:35. > :22:44.# Return to sender # Return to sender. So you have had
:22:44. > :22:50.a few drinks and you want to write to someone famous and why not?
:22:50. > :22:56.The Royal Mail handles 15 billion items every year. And so it is not
:22:56. > :23:02.surprise that many items just don't reach their intended destination.
:23:02. > :23:06.Any mail which can't be delivered ends up here at the National Return
:23:06. > :23:13.Centre in Belfast which handles an incredible number of undelivered
:23:13. > :23:17.parcels and letters. Some items don't have the right
:23:17. > :23:23.address. Sometimes they are addressed to people who have moved.
:23:23. > :23:29.None of them have return addresses. So, decisions have to be made. Tara
:23:29. > :23:32.Connor worked here for 12 years. 50,000 items are received every day.
:23:32. > :23:40.Every day? And that includes parcels as well.
:23:40. > :23:41.So we have got to hurry. We open return address and get the item
:23:41. > :23:47.back to the sender. OK, let's open it then.
:23:47. > :23:53.So unfortunately we can't send that back to the sender. What happens to
:23:53. > :23:56.that then? We will dispose of it as we do with all our items that have
:23:56. > :24:00.no return items. Thrown away? Confidentially
:24:00. > :24:08.disposed of. That's a Christmas card, is it?
:24:08. > :24:12.Dear onan that, wishing you a happy Christmas and New Year. What will
:24:12. > :24:15.you do with that? There is a return address and we will send it back to
:24:15. > :24:23.the sender. The variety of objects that come
:24:23. > :24:30.into this office is astonishing. We receive locusts.
:24:30. > :24:34.Locusts? People buy them for food for their animals or their snakes
:24:34. > :24:40.or their reptiles. We have this person that keeps on sending milk.
:24:40. > :24:45.Milk? Two litres of milk keep getting sent in the post.
:24:45. > :24:52.That's a milk fanatic? Well, I would say it is something strange P.
:24:52. > :24:56.This is Star Wars? Yes, that's Darf Vader's helmet.
:24:56. > :25:00.May the force of the Royal Mail be with you.
:25:00. > :25:06.Some of the items are worth considerable sums. One package
:25:06. > :25:11.contained a Picasso sketch. Most mail is held for two months and
:25:11. > :25:15.then disposed of, but anything believed to be valuable is held for
:25:15. > :25:21.longer. If you think they are historically important? We will
:25:21. > :25:25.hold them indefinitely. Why waste the money on this stuff? It does
:25:25. > :25:35.cost for this operation to be run over �3 million a year, we manage
:25:35. > :25:41.
:25:41. > :25:49.for the parts that we can't find a How much do you make on that?
:25:49. > :25:53.sender. If we can't find the sender Some of the most difficult items to
:25:53. > :25:59.deal with are those with sentimental value. There is so much
:25:59. > :26:03.stuff here hardly worth keeping. nothing to us, but to the family
:26:03. > :26:09.involved they could be priceless. The staff say they are kept because
:26:09. > :26:15.one day they might be returned to their rightful owners and who can
:26:15. > :26:23.That's a good point. John has given us three items that
:26:23. > :26:30.are stuck in postal limbo and have no home. We want you to help us
:26:30. > :26:40.find the sender or the person they have been addressed to? This the
:26:40. > :26:49.writing says, "Mummy before she married and it is dated 191. Yths -
:26:49. > :26:55.- 1912." There are Pictures of family holidaying in Italy and in
:26:55. > :27:01.the Bahamas in 1953. Ring any bells with anybody? If it
:27:01. > :27:08.does, let us know. Olivia. Does anyone recognise this
:27:08. > :27:16.little boy? The handwriting says John six-and-a-half months old
:27:16. > :27:25.taken at Porthcawl. He would be nearly 64-and-a-half years old.
:27:25. > :27:31.Wouldn't it be great to get in touch with the owners?
:27:31. > :27:39.We have one last one. I am guessing somebody will claim this because it
:27:39. > :27:44.is worth a few quid. This is the final draft script of
:27:44. > :27:48.Jaws. So, Royal Mail says it is the
:27:49. > :27:53.complete script. If you are thinking of claiming it, you have
:27:53. > :28:01.to produce some ID. If you are the person mentioned in
:28:01. > :28:11.the film, sending milk through the with yourself!
:28:11. > :28:12.
:28:12. > :28:22.get in touch with the Royal Mail or drop us an e-mail.
:28:22. > :28:24.
:28:24. > :28:34.Don't bother writing it probably won't get to us.
:28:34. > :28:36.
:28:36. > :28:46.Billy, you are waiting for something really important? I am
:28:46. > :28:54.
:28:54. > :28:58.It's been five years since you last recorded an album and this is
:28:58. > :29:01.normally the point where we would play a clip from the album, but
:29:01. > :29:05.you're going to go one better than that for us Billy. It has been five
:29:05. > :29:13.years. A proper album that goes into the record shops. The you have
:29:13. > :29:21.brought your guitar? I wrote a song called Handy man Blues, about a my
:29:21. > :29:29.inability to do anything useful around the house.
:29:29. > :29:36.# Don't be expecting me to put up shelves or build a garden shed.
:29:36. > :29:46.# But I can write a song that holds the world how much I love you
:29:46. > :29:56.instead. I am not any good at pottery, so
:29:56. > :29:58.
:29:58. > :30:07.let's shift the settee. # I will find a way to make my
:30:07. > :30:17.poetry put a roof over our heads. # Aynho it looks I'm only reading
:30:17. > :30:27.
:30:27. > :30:36.the paper. A # But these ideas will You and my boyfriend would get on
:30:36. > :30:41.great. There will be men who identify it. Women say to me, you
:30:41. > :30:47.have written that about my husband. You've recorded the entire album in
:30:47. > :30:54.just five days, why the rush? was recorded in five days of. I
:30:54. > :30:59.went to South Carolina -- California. I normally take about
:30:59. > :31:05.five weeks to make a record. But the record industry, the way it is
:31:05. > :31:10.now, it has to be cost effective. It helped me get a focused, get at
:31:10. > :31:17.them and get the songs I had into shape. That five days it was like
:31:17. > :31:21.boot camp. We had 10 songs by the end of the week. I wrote a couple
:31:21. > :31:29.more and we completed the album. When you are in the studio and the
:31:29. > :31:38.clock is ticking, it is surprising. Bolivia, you know all too well?
:31:38. > :31:44.quickest I did was a dance track album, we only had a date. But I
:31:44. > :31:51.did not have to write them. It is very relaxing. It is a shame we
:31:51. > :31:56.have not got any -- a little camp fire. Were you nervous about going
:31:56. > :31:59.back into the studio? I was watching an interview on your
:31:59. > :32:06.website this morning, and you seemed a bit nervous about bringing
:32:06. > :32:11.a new album out? Yes, where do I fit in the record industry? Not the
:32:11. > :32:15.music industry, the record industry. They have been topical songs and I
:32:15. > :32:19.have put them on my website for a free download. As a result, apart
:32:19. > :32:26.from the political songs people think I am famous for, there was
:32:26. > :32:29.the love songs. Most of them I write on a songs. That struggle to
:32:29. > :32:32.maintain relationships, particularly long-term
:32:32. > :32:37.relationships is as worthy about writing about the struggle to
:32:37. > :32:42.change the world. I have always tried to write about both. Gritty
:32:42. > :32:49.stories, you came out and said he did not have a good voice. I once
:32:49. > :32:58.lost my voice at a gig in Minneapolis. I said to my manager,
:32:58. > :33:03.these people are coming to see me. He said, nobody comes to he using!
:33:03. > :33:09.-- here you sing. I have never been technically a great songwriter. As
:33:09. > :33:14.I have got older, my voice has dropped a little, and with a bit of
:33:15. > :33:19.forethought, I am getting there. The people of Dagenham a luvvie of
:33:19. > :33:29.ways, even if you think it is below par. They had come out in force to
:33:29. > :33:34.
:33:34. > :33:44.show how talented you are. All the culture you once is in
:33:44. > :33:51.Dagenham. I'm joined by a gymnastics club. I want the Youth
:33:51. > :33:57.Olympics. I got five medals. Coach, Lorraine, how talented is she?
:33:57. > :34:07.is very talented. We have a Hungarian International, 1 GB
:34:07. > :34:17.international, and everybody's goal is Rio. Lauren over here is a
:34:17. > :34:17.
:34:17. > :34:22.genius. Recently I achieved a 61 in an IQ test. That makes you cleverer
:34:22. > :34:32.than Stephen Hawking, that is very good. She is very talented? We are
:34:32. > :34:38.
:34:38. > :34:45.very proud of her. Just keep it up. Everyone in Essex is clever, and
:34:45. > :34:50.this is why. You have been nominated for a lifetime
:34:50. > :34:55.achievement Award... A we have believed that, because of
:34:55. > :35:02.the sound. My brother still lives there. I recently did some stuff
:35:02. > :35:08.and made a programme. It is my home. We had the Dagenham Girl Pipers.
:35:08. > :35:13.thought, how are they going to fit on the sofa? They are amazing. And
:35:13. > :35:22.they were around when I was a kid. They must be getting a bit on -- on
:35:22. > :35:30.a bit now. Used to see them sums Saturday nights in the Wimpy Bar by
:35:30. > :35:35.Dagenham's stations. Our current affairs man is normally out and
:35:35. > :35:42.about breaking news stories for The One Show. But tonight in the first
:35:42. > :35:46.of two films, he discovers the secrets on his grandfather's plan
:35:47. > :35:49.designed past and how he might have been a prototype to James Bond.
:35:50. > :35:54.always renew my grandfather had served in the Second World War.
:35:54. > :35:58.It is only three recently the family learned at the extraordinary
:35:58. > :36:02.truth, that he was hand-picked to be part of a top-secret,
:36:02. > :36:09.intelligence gathering commando units, runs from here in the heart
:36:09. > :36:14.of Whitehall. I want to find out more. His daughter, my relative has
:36:14. > :36:19.been researching of family history. What do you remember? He was an
:36:19. > :36:25.entertainer. He was a life- enhancing. He was a Jo Good, a
:36:25. > :36:32.wonderful sense of humour. You have this wonderful photo of him. That
:36:32. > :36:37.is what you see in this. Twinkly eyes. The for the war he was a dry-
:36:37. > :36:46.cleaner, so how did he end up in a frontline intelligence unit? He was
:36:46. > :36:51.39, and he was too old. They wouldn't have him. He just badgered
:36:51. > :36:55.and kept on. He was ecstatic when they heard he would be taken. They
:36:55. > :37:02.took him into the Royal Naval Reserve. Do you know what he was
:37:02. > :37:07.doing in the war? I knew he put on a diver's kit and went underneath
:37:07. > :37:12.to defuse a magnetic mines. But he was more than a bomb disposal
:37:12. > :37:18.expert, he had been recruited into a crack, covert unit run by a
:37:18. > :37:23.visionary commander. The man was Ian Fleming. And the men he
:37:23. > :37:28.recruited at whether real-life inspirations the James Bond. It
:37:28. > :37:31.superior submarines, torpedoes and the Hon cracker ball and make no
:37:31. > :37:40.code meant Germany had the upper hand in the early years of the war.
:37:40. > :37:44.Commander Fleming proposed a simple solution - steal the technology.
:37:45. > :37:49.This is where he spent six years of the second world war in this room,
:37:49. > :37:55.the heart of naval intelligence. Where did the idea come for this
:37:55. > :38:01.unit? It started when he wrote a memo on 20th March, 1942. We have
:38:01. > :38:11.got the original memo. My tea is a proposal for the unit. He puts it
:38:11. > :38:11.
:38:11. > :38:16.up to his boss, Admiral Godfrey. He has written at the bottom, "yes".
:38:16. > :38:22.With an invasion of France imminent, Fleming needed men with technical
:38:22. > :38:28.know-how. My grandfather found himself summoned to the new
:38:28. > :38:35.headquarters in Littlehampton. was selected because he had a great
:38:35. > :38:38.record and gallantry. Unveiling minds and torpedoes. He was
:38:38. > :38:43.recruited to lead the specialist team. He was going across to France
:38:43. > :38:48.and the idea was he would catch a naval intelligence, has deservedly
:38:48. > :38:53.targeting torpedos. And very important role. As a commando, my
:38:53. > :39:01.grandfather would have to get fit. Lance Corporal Alan Royle is one of
:39:01. > :39:06.only a handful of surviving veterans of 30 a youth. He was
:39:06. > :39:12.always on speed marches, street fighting. Abseiling up and down the
:39:12. > :39:18.local workhouse walls. Everybody knew D-Day was coming. Just a
:39:18. > :39:23.question of when. D-Day, the greatest amphibious invasion in
:39:23. > :39:28.history was about to begin and the unit was about to play a small but
:39:28. > :39:31.important role. Their mission - to capture Secrets and signed his in
:39:31. > :39:37.an effort to aid the battle to crush the matts seas. My
:39:37. > :39:42.grandfather played his part in that. That is where my grandfather and
:39:42. > :39:45.his troops would have headed? Tamara Clarke -- tomorrow will be
:39:45. > :39:52.following his mission and discover what happened to him when he landed
:39:52. > :39:58.in Normandy. Billy, you're saying your dad was
:39:58. > :40:05.part of the tank regiment? He was in the 43rd Royal Tank regiments
:40:05. > :40:13.and bake trained on a secret thing, the canal defence graft. That is a
:40:13. > :40:18.picture of my dad. The turret is false, it was daylight to which
:40:18. > :40:22.they deployed on battlefields to deploy at night. It was so secret,
:40:22. > :40:27.nobody knew it existed so they never used it will stop my dad
:40:27. > :40:31.ended up in India after the war. When there were riots in the
:40:31. > :40:35.streets, these tanks were very valuable because they had such
:40:35. > :40:41.powerful searchlights will stop that is the only place it saw
:40:41. > :40:44.service. You were born in the UK to a Welsh father and he played a part
:40:44. > :40:50.in the second world war? He was part of the team that crack the
:40:50. > :40:54.code. It he was at Bletchley Park and he was a wing commander in the
:40:54. > :41:02.air force and broke perfect -- spoke perfect German for some he
:41:02. > :41:10.could not talk about it. Ian works at Bletchley Park and he is going
:41:10. > :41:14.to fill the gaps in the EU and tell you more about your dad. Your
:41:14. > :41:18.father worked in a place called huts three and was involved in
:41:18. > :41:27.turning the decipher it messages into intelligence. We have a
:41:27. > :41:31.picture of him here. They took these deciphered messages and saw
:41:31. > :41:36.what was important and worked out which ones needed to be sent on to
:41:36. > :41:44.the field urgently and which went on for routine work in London.
:41:44. > :41:52.Yesterday was his 99th birthday. had quite an impact on the social
:41:52. > :41:58.side of things as well? He was a major player in the amateur
:41:58. > :42:01.dramatics and operatic Society. This is a programme from a
:42:01. > :42:05.production called, by candlelight, and you can see the pictures with
:42:06. > :42:11.your father performing. This was signed by all of the cast at the
:42:11. > :42:16.end, November 1945, so they were about to depart to the civilian
:42:16. > :42:23.jobs at the end of the war. There is your father's signature. He had
:42:23. > :42:30.a beautiful voice, he was a Welshman. I thank him for some of
:42:30. > :42:36.the genes he gave me. He was also quite a dashing chap. This is a
:42:36. > :42:43.production of Pride and Prejudice. He actually played Mr Darcy.
:42:43. > :42:48.Really?! I have never seen this before, thanks so much. You were
:42:48. > :42:53.talking about his voice and being Welsh. We have one last surprise
:42:53. > :42:56.for you. You will hear the performance of her the marriage of
:42:56. > :43:06.Figaro which was done by the Bletchley Park operatic society,
:43:06. > :43:32.
:43:32. > :43:37.and your father performed the role That is very special. It is a
:43:37. > :43:47.scratchy performance but used by the BBC on their workers' playtime.
:43:47. > :43:48.
:43:48. > :43:52.We will do a copy of those photos. That would be lovely. While we
:43:52. > :44:02.share some more memories, we are marvelling at the memory of the
:44:02. > :44:06.
:44:06. > :44:12.$:/STARTFEED. I am hoping to show there is more going on behind those
:44:12. > :44:15.eyes than most of us realise. There is one bug which has a very special
:44:15. > :44:19.trait. The humming bird hawk moth has an
:44:20. > :44:25.incredible memory. They can remember and learn which flower has
:44:25. > :44:30.the best source of nectar and will return time and time again to feed
:44:30. > :44:35.there. This unusual summer visitor to British gardens need a lot of
:44:35. > :44:44.energy. They flap their wings at over 85 beats a second and live for
:44:44. > :44:51.up to four months. All this flying uses up their energy resorves --
:44:51. > :45:01.reserves quickly. To demonstrate this impressive brain power,
:45:01. > :45:03.
:45:03. > :45:11.Alistair has raised and nurtured humming bird hawk moths for The One
:45:11. > :45:16.Show. With a week of training using
:45:16. > :45:23.artificial flowers and a sugary solution, Alistair has taught the
:45:23. > :45:28.moths to ig ignore their preference for blue flowers by providing food
:45:28. > :45:35.incentives only behind the yellow ones. I have been keen to find out
:45:35. > :45:41.how they have been getting on. You are predicting this moth should
:45:41. > :45:49.avoid the blue? It should go straight to yellow, but we are
:45:49. > :45:55.looking at animals here. We will wait and see!
:45:55. > :46:00.There you go. Alistair's training has worked. This moth ignores the
:46:00. > :46:06.blue and heads to the yellow flower with the abundance of nectar. Many
:46:06. > :46:13.insects waste time and energy by searching for food, but the humming
:46:13. > :46:18.hawk moth's ability means their ability to remember which coloured
:46:18. > :46:24.flower provides the best source of food sets them apart from other
:46:24. > :46:32.insects. We have seen them feeding at the artificial flower, but will
:46:32. > :46:38.they feed of a real flower the same colour? We will put one in and sees.
:46:38. > :46:43.A simple switch from yellow yellow to a real flower and the moth
:46:44. > :46:49.wastes no time in seeing this colour as a potential food source.
:46:49. > :46:55.That is quite impressive, isn't it? They can learn on an artificial
:46:55. > :47:00.flower or fake food source and then translate that into the real world.
:47:00. > :47:06.It is not just colour that these amazing moths can remember.
:47:06. > :47:12.Research has shown a flower's shape and size and smell can be learnt
:47:12. > :47:18.and memorised by these fury flyers. Watching them in super slow motion,
:47:18. > :47:22.it is easy to appreciate why they need to feed on such energy-rich
:47:23. > :47:26.nectar, remembering where those vital flowers on allows them to
:47:26. > :47:31.keep on flying. Although the experiment is simple,
:47:31. > :47:36.it is the principle behind what we have shown today that is
:47:36. > :47:41.extraordinary and experiments have shown that various moth can do the
:47:42. > :47:46.same thing, but none are so clever or smart as the humming bird hawk
:47:46. > :47:50.moth. There is a way of harnessing that
:47:50. > :48:00.talent, but I haven't worked it out yet.
:48:00. > :48:07.Billy, as it happens, you have had a run-in with a moth. A large moth!
:48:07. > :48:14.Those moths were flying around me when I was was doing a gig in
:48:14. > :48:19.Oklahoma and I am standing on the is 30 degrees hot and the lights
:48:19. > :48:26.are on me and the moths are coming to where the light is and they were
:48:26. > :48:29.flying around like sparrows. It was me shoulder for a um can have
:48:29. > :48:34.songs! -- for a couple of songs.
:48:34. > :48:43.When you took the picture of the moth, did you think, "This will be
:48:43. > :48:50.handy when I go on The One Show?" We think Mike has identified the
:48:50. > :48:57.family. Would it have killed me? On the wildlife wildlife theme, you
:48:57. > :49:01.are doing a bit of tree planning? Yes, I am I am going to plant a
:49:01. > :49:06.tree in Hyde Park. We are hoping the education department implement
:49:07. > :49:10.that every child when they are at school, plant a tree. Did this in
:49:10. > :49:17.Australia and we want to take it worldwide now.
:49:17. > :49:21.Excellent. Right then, Bill Billy, it is time for you to get
:49:22. > :49:27.the guitar out. They asked me if I could play a bit
:49:28. > :49:33.on the programme. Do you remember this one?
:49:33. > :49:38.# If not for you # I couldn't even findted door
:49:38. > :49:48.-- find the door # I I couldn't even see the floor
:49:48. > :49:49.
:49:49. > :49:59.# I would be sad and blue # If not for you
:49:59. > :50:01.
:50:01. > :50:10.# There would be no spring # I couldn't hear a robin sing
:50:10. > :50:20.# I will be sad and blue # If not for you
:50:20. > :50:27.# If not for you my sky would fall # Rain would gather too
:50:27. > :50:37.# Without you I would be nowhere at # I would be lost if not for you
:50:37. > :50:44.
:50:44. > :50:51.APPLAUSE Brilliant!
:50:51. > :50:56.Once a star, always a star. Once a busker, always a busker!
:50:56. > :51:06.That's my husband's favourite song. That's for you, honey!
:51:06. > :51:11.Lovely. Last time you came on, we Greece, but we are not allowed! We
:51:11. > :51:21.will have a look at Xanadu and we have a clip of you and Gene Kelly
:51:21. > :51:33.
:51:33. > :51:36.APPLAUSE Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
:51:36. > :51:43.I called the original Dancing With The Stars!
:51:43. > :51:47.I had to learn tap dancing. I had three months to learn and it was
:51:47. > :51:52.pretty intimidating, but he was lovely and he made it easy.
:51:52. > :51:56.Were you nervous on your first day? Very nervous. He did a lot in one
:51:56. > :52:01.take so you couldn't do little bits, you had to do the hole thing and
:52:01. > :52:07.not trip over your own feet! Was that a highlight for you?
:52:07. > :52:10.yeah, very exciting. How lucky am I to have danced with Gene Kelly and
:52:11. > :52:16.John Travolta? And you sang with Billy Bragg.
:52:16. > :52:20.Well, it is the biggest dance festival in the UK this weekend and
:52:20. > :52:29.we have got a performance from one of the groups taking part. There
:52:29. > :52:34.they are. They are brilliant. First, Laura tells us us what it was like
:52:34. > :52:40.to grow up with a famous mother mother.
:52:40. > :52:48.My mother was Laura Ashley. My mother didn't like to be referred
:52:48. > :52:54.asked if she had an official job tight until the company and -- job
:52:54. > :52:59.title in the company and she said, "Yes, I was the secretary to the
:52:59. > :53:09.chairman." They built up the company, Laura Ashley. In 1960, my
:53:09. > :53:10.
:53:10. > :53:19.family moved from Kent up to to mid-Wales and there was myself and
:53:19. > :53:25.my brother and sister, Jane. My mother was Welsh and she said,
:53:25. > :53:31."let's forget England. Let's go to Wales." This was our first home in
:53:31. > :53:36.Wales and it was only after we we lived in the house for a few months
:53:36. > :53:43.that it became a shop and this was the first of all the Laura Ashley
:53:43. > :53:51.shops around the world. I love your shop. It is fantastic.
:53:51. > :53:57.My mother used to sell tea towels and rugs and fabric. Yeah, I heard
:53:57. > :54:04.so many good things about your mother and the shop and how welcome
:54:04. > :54:13.she was. She would make them cups of tea. Did she print the tea
:54:13. > :54:19.towelss? My mother and father went to see a film with Audrey Hepburn
:54:19. > :54:25.and my mother loved the silk scarf she was wearing. She went to the
:54:25. > :54:29.library and got a book on how to do printing and started and that's how
:54:29. > :54:36.it started. And behind this door that I haven't been through since I
:54:36. > :54:43.was 12 years old was our bedroom. I would sleep there. I I can hardly
:54:43. > :54:53.fit in it now. I remember standing here at about this height and
:54:53. > :54:53.
:54:53. > :54:58.looking out. Amazing. And this is where my father and
:54:58. > :55:03.mother found their first factory in Wales. It doesn't look much to look
:55:03. > :55:07.at now and it probably didn't look much then. This is where the whole
:55:07. > :55:12.thing started, this little factory here. Mum and dad started off
:55:12. > :55:19.printing materials for curtains and as the demand grew, they got more
:55:19. > :55:24.and more into clothing. And then in about 1967 the station closed down
:55:24. > :55:28.and it gave my mother and father an an opportunity to buy that station
:55:28. > :55:34.and the land next to it. So we moved addross the road.
:55:34. > :55:39.It is the centre of a �10 million business export to go Europe, North
:55:39. > :55:48.America, Australia and Japan. We were very lucky because we
:55:48. > :55:55.happened on this village in mid- Wales. They were always telling us
:55:55. > :56:02.we helped them a lot, but they they helped us more.
:56:02. > :56:07.NEWSREEL: Laura Ashley has died in hospital in Coventry. She was
:56:07. > :56:11.injured nine days ago when she fell dawn the stairs -- down the stairs
:56:11. > :56:21.at her daughter's home. She never regained consciousness.
:56:21. > :56:21.
:56:21. > :56:27.The press made it impossible for my to have had because they were just
:56:27. > :56:32.outside the hospital and inside the hospital. Some of the disreputable
:56:32. > :56:36.newspapers threatened to run a story about how my mother was
:56:36. > :56:41.pushed down the stairs just the fact that the press was so awful
:56:41. > :56:45.took me many more years to mourn my mother's death than it otherwise
:56:45. > :56:48.would have taken. We, as a family, decided that the
:56:49. > :56:54.village more than any other place that we have been in our lives
:56:54. > :57:04.seemed to be the best place for mum and later for my father to be
:57:04. > :57:05.
:57:05. > :57:11.Thank you very much, David. It is time to meet Boy Blue
:57:11. > :57:18.Entertainment and none of them are wearing Laura Ashley. You were
:57:18. > :57:21.perform at the Olympics? That's right. How was that? We got to work
:57:21. > :57:24.with thousands of volunteers as well as professionals. It was
:57:25. > :57:31.working on that six months to a year.
:57:31. > :57:36.This weekend you are part of a new dance festival called Move It?
:57:37. > :57:42.is the UK's biggest dance festival and it show cases all of the
:57:42. > :57:46.different styles at all levels of dance. So we do masterclasses and
:57:46. > :57:52.there is taster classes and performances. It is at the London
:57:52. > :57:56.Olympia. You were saying that street dancing
:57:56. > :58:02.was in Xanadu? Yes. We had street dancing then.
:58:02. > :58:12.We have got time to tell you that it is it is No Smoking Day next
:58:12. > :58:17.If you are a smoker thinking about quitting, or if you would like help
:58:17. > :58:22.to stop smoking, then e-mail us with smoking in the subject box.
:58:23. > :58:27.That's it. Olivia's tour starts in Cardiff on Sunday night. Billy's