06/05/2014

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:00:16. > :00:21.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. Our

:00:22. > :00:24.guests tonight are two master illusionists whose Las Vegas show is

:00:25. > :00:30.one of the longest-running and best-selling ever. So good are their

:00:31. > :00:35.skills that you might be forgiven for thinking one of them has managed

:00:36. > :00:46.to make his own voice disappear. He hasn't, he just doesn't say much,

:00:47. > :00:54.it's Penn and Teller. Penn, you are in good voice this

:00:55. > :01:03.evening? Happy to talk? Teller on the other hand is producing 50p

:01:04. > :01:18.pieces from everywhere. We use dollars in the US. You have been

:01:19. > :01:31.doing this show in... That was remarkable! You have been

:01:32. > :01:36.doing your show in the Rio Hotel in Vegas for 13 years now. I believe we

:01:37. > :01:42.are the longest running headliners in Las Vegas history. How do you

:01:43. > :01:48.keep it fresh because that is a long time? We don't have too because we

:01:49. > :01:53.write new material all the time. The general theory of Las Vegas that was

:01:54. > :02:02.that you got a show together, you became popular and you went to Las

:02:03. > :02:07.Vegas to die. Teller and I went there and followed the same formula

:02:08. > :02:12.except we have done about five and a half hours of new material, just

:02:13. > :02:16.while we were in Vegas, like a band doing a different set list. We have

:02:17. > :02:20.been doing a lot of different material, and also the stuff we do

:02:21. > :02:27.over and over, it's wonderful to feel like you can get good at

:02:28. > :02:33.something. And you are going to do a trick for us later on. Yes, we have

:02:34. > :02:46.never done it before. World exclusive then! We have some things

:02:47. > :02:53.on the show that are right up your street. You have a Houdini corner,

:02:54. > :02:58.don't you? Teller has the first letter that Houdini wrote to his

:02:59. > :03:05.mother, where he talks about how he is happy and content on stage but at

:03:06. > :03:10.no other time. Also a letter that Houdini wrote to Arthur Conan Doyle

:03:11. > :03:20.after Arthur Conan Doyle's wife had done a spirit reading. Houdini is

:03:21. > :03:24.pointing out to Arthur Conan Doyle that maybe this isn't as accurate as

:03:25. > :03:30.you would think because the spirit reading is in English, which

:03:31. > :03:39.Houdini's mother didn't speak. Also there is a cross at the top, and his

:03:40. > :03:44.mother was the wife of a rabbi, so there are a few subtle mistakes in

:03:45. > :03:51.there. Houdini was good friends with Arthur Conan Doyle and was trying to

:03:52. > :03:55.be kind. Well, magicians are well known for making things disappear

:03:56. > :03:58.and appear but tonight we'd like to see pictures of things that have

:03:59. > :04:08.have mysteriously appeared in your own home. We've no idea what we're

:04:09. > :04:13.going to get. We were talking to Richard on camera three earlier, he

:04:14. > :04:23.lives in a cul-de-sac and a chicken appeared at his door. Very good! A

:04:24. > :04:27.chicken! Now, when you're feeling a bit under the weather and you're not

:04:28. > :04:29.sure what's wrong, it's tempting to go online and research your

:04:30. > :04:33.symptoms, which sometimes causes worry. However, a new online service

:04:34. > :04:37.is promising to allow you direct access to GPs at a touch of a button

:04:38. > :04:40.on your phone, but it does come with a cost.

:04:41. > :04:45.These days, getting to see your GP can be a real mission. With a

:04:46. > :04:50.growing population and fewer GPs than ten years ago, 15% of patients

:04:51. > :04:59.in England now have to wait at least a week to see their doctor. Could

:05:00. > :05:07.your phone hold the key? There is a new app called Babylon, and users

:05:08. > :05:13.can book video phone consultations, text question to a GP or nurse, and

:05:14. > :05:19.arrange consultations with specialists at a price. How did you

:05:20. > :05:25.come up with the idea? In other areas of our lives we have got used

:05:26. > :05:31.to using technology, we read books, we download music, we see our

:05:32. > :05:36.friends, why not see doctors? Who are the doctors you are using? They

:05:37. > :05:43.have a minimum of five years experience, on average 15 years, and

:05:44. > :05:48.they spend their time working in GP surgeries, or they are specialists

:05:49. > :05:53.who work in their free time. Aren't you just offering a fast-track

:05:54. > :05:58.system for people who can afford it? You can have this service for

:05:59. > :06:04.less than ?2 a week and we worked incredibly hard to make it

:06:05. > :06:09.affordable to everyone. This busy GP surgery in London has 10,000

:06:10. > :06:14.patients so demand for appointments is high. I have come to give three

:06:15. > :06:20.patients the chance to try out the video consultation to see what they

:06:21. > :06:24.make of it. My name is Doctor Glen, I am one of the Babylon health

:06:25. > :06:32.doctors. What symptoms have you got? I have had a swollen throat and

:06:33. > :06:41.swollen glands. I have been getting migraines again. You have got a long

:06:42. > :06:48.history of migraine, have you? Yes, and in the last few days I have had

:06:49. > :06:57.two. Are you normally fit and well person? Is your vision affected? If

:06:58. > :07:04.it doesn't settle down and 48 hours we would make another consultation,

:07:05. > :07:09.or you can see your own GP. How was that? It is more convenient than

:07:10. > :07:15.booking in appointment and going to the doctor, that was superb. Could

:07:16. > :07:25.you see yourself using a app like this? It is ideal. In terms of

:07:26. > :07:30.further symptoms I had, a sore throat and swollen gland, it was

:07:31. > :07:35.perfect, but perhaps with others it wouldn't be. Can you see yourself

:07:36. > :07:40.paying for a service like this? For the convenience yes, but I would

:07:41. > :07:47.rather have someone sitting in front of me in person. What did the GPs at

:07:48. > :07:51.the surgery think? For some people who really value getting it sorted

:07:52. > :07:56.quickly more than having a personal relationship with their doctor, this

:07:57. > :08:01.technology could be really useful. If you have a patient who needs

:08:02. > :08:06.technology could be really useful. blood checking, or who needs an

:08:07. > :08:12.examination, there will be some things that are difficult to pick

:08:13. > :08:16.up. With chickenpox, you would see a child covered with spots, but with

:08:17. > :08:23.more subtle rushes you need to be able to feel it to pinpoint what it

:08:24. > :08:28.could be, perhaps it could be a meningitis rush which has huge

:08:29. > :08:33.complications. Surely this can never be a substitute for a face-to-face

:08:34. > :08:40.consultation? Our doctors will never take a risk, they will always tell

:08:41. > :08:43.you to go to see your GP physically if it is necessary. It is just

:08:44. > :08:52.something that is available when we need it. Lucy is here now. So has

:08:53. > :08:57.this service which allows you to access a GP using your phone been

:08:58. > :09:00.approved by the NHS? No, it has been registered with the Care Quality

:09:01. > :09:07.Commission so it was registered in February 2014, but it has not been

:09:08. > :09:13.endorsed. It is a legal requirement to register with the CQC before you

:09:14. > :09:17.can operate. The Royal College of GPs advocate caution because they

:09:18. > :09:24.say nothing can replace face-to-face consultation with your doctor in the

:09:25. > :09:27.surgery. NHS England simply said the app has not been endorsed. The

:09:28. > :09:36.General Medical Council has not endorsed it but it hasn't seen it

:09:37. > :09:43.yet. It is not an NHS app, but because there has been a surge in

:09:44. > :09:53.these apps, they have put together a health app library online. There are

:09:54. > :09:57.about 160. About 170, with more being reviewed and more in

:09:58. > :10:05.development. And this is the home page we are seeing here, isn't it?

:10:06. > :10:14.Yes, this is the websites that you can find them on. Health Fabric Has

:10:15. > :10:19.A 5-star Review, It Helps You To Manage Your Healthcare And Maybe If

:10:20. > :10:23.You Have A Long-standing Condition Like Diabetes It Gives You Lots Of

:10:24. > :10:29.Information But You Can Also Pay To Enable Your Gp Records To Be Used As

:10:30. > :10:39.Part Of The App. The Other One Has Been Very Successful Is Big White

:10:40. > :10:44.Wall The Mental Health, And It Has Been Particularly Useful For Members

:10:45. > :10:53.Who Have Been Part Of The Armed Forces. You Can Get In Touch With

:10:54. > :11:05.Your Therapist Via Video And It Is A 24/7 Service.

:11:06. > :11:14.The Prime Minister announced in October last year there was going to

:11:15. > :11:18.be a fond of ?15 million, 250 practices across England submitted

:11:19. > :11:22.proposals, 20 have been taken up and these are pilot projects. We won't

:11:23. > :11:26.know the outcome because they only started last month for another year

:11:27. > :11:31.really, but if you look at them 19 out of 20 are about increasing

:11:32. > :11:35.access to GPs so they understand that is a real issue and they are

:11:36. > :11:40.trying lots of different systems like video consultations, e-mailing

:11:41. > :11:49.appointments so we will keep an eye on that. Our American friends have

:11:50. > :11:53.trash cans, whereas we have dustbins. They have gas, we have

:11:54. > :12:01.petrol, and they have Houdini so what do we have? We have Alan Alan.

:12:02. > :12:06.If you think of a man wriggling upside down in a straitjacket, you

:12:07. > :12:10.think of one name, Harry Houdini. A master showman with a knife of

:12:11. > :12:16.publicity so acute that his name is as famous today as it was in his

:12:17. > :12:21.heyday, but we in Britain have our own Houdini. A man just as gifted at

:12:22. > :12:26.hogging the headlines. Houdini was his hero, but the British equivalent

:12:27. > :12:34.of the American maestro took the showmanship and raised it to another

:12:35. > :12:38.level. His name has slipped from public consciousness now, but for

:12:39. > :12:43.years, in the second half of the 20th century, Alan Alan played to

:12:44. > :12:53.packed crowds and hungry film cameras. Crisscross is the latest in

:12:54. > :13:01.the illustrious line of escapologist and he knows that he owes everything

:13:02. > :13:07.to the greats of the past. They were masters of promotion, geniuses at

:13:08. > :13:12.playing the press and dreaming of big stunts to turn heads. They were

:13:13. > :13:17.pioneers of escapologist. Houdini was famous for escaping upside down

:13:18. > :13:26.suspended in chains in front of the audience. Alan Alan took the trick

:13:27. > :13:33.and set fire to the rope. He even used swords. People like to sit on

:13:34. > :13:37.the edges of their seats. People actually want to see the person

:13:38. > :13:44.fail. They are waiting for something to go wrong. Allen had several

:13:45. > :13:50.accidents where the rope snapped and he fell to the floor. It was never

:13:51. > :13:55.seriously hurt but the drama created by the very real possibility of

:13:56. > :13:59.failure made him an irresistible draw to audiences. His most famous

:14:00. > :14:06.brush with death was in 1949 at the beginning of his career. In 1915

:14:07. > :14:11.Houdini had attempted a buried alive stunts, where he was buried in loose

:14:12. > :14:19.earth and began to dig his way out. Just as his hands broke the service,

:14:20. > :14:23.-- surface, Houdini fell unconscious. Alan Alan wanted to do

:14:24. > :14:39.one better. He was determined to grab the attention of the world. Are

:14:40. > :14:46.you sure about this? OK. Alan Alan is to be buried alive. He is going

:14:47. > :14:50.to attempt the one thing that Houdini said was impossible, the

:14:51. > :14:57.grave. The earth was compact it tightly. His life was in genuine

:14:58. > :15:03.danger. Dig him out was the order. They have to work fast to avert

:15:04. > :15:08.disaster. He was dragged out alive and distressed but the newsreel and

:15:09. > :15:15.papers delivered acres of precious publicity. At heart, he was a

:15:16. > :15:19.magician 's magician. He passed on his skills to a young magician,

:15:20. > :15:27.Michael Vincent. Mix them up together. He meant what him for

:15:28. > :15:44.years. This is all about bringing order. -- mentored. The pair became

:15:45. > :15:49.close friends. There has not been an escapologist who had a flair for

:15:50. > :15:55.gymnastics like Houdini. In some cases, Alan Alan had the edge. Why?

:15:56. > :16:02.Because of television. He was identical. In the context of show

:16:03. > :16:08.business, I think he is one of the greatest British entertainers and

:16:09. > :16:13.speciality acts of all time. He is 87 and is fully retired. Like his

:16:14. > :16:18.hero, Houdini, who died a month before he was born, he pushed the

:16:19. > :16:23.boundaries of magic, knowing it was always the possibility of failure

:16:24. > :16:32.that made him so compelling. That is the reputation he cannot escape. We

:16:33. > :16:38.had to have an ending like that. Alan Alan had many a close shave.

:16:39. > :16:43.You could claim Houdini is British. He made it over here. He was not

:16:44. > :16:48.successful in the US until he came over to Britain and made it big. He

:16:49. > :16:53.was like Jimi Hendrix in that way. He was also born in Budapest.

:16:54. > :17:01.Claiming he was an American magician requires a lot of cheating. He moved

:17:02. > :17:09.to Budapest at three years old... Move to America, sorry. Lying about

:17:10. > :17:15.being from America, he's American. We had about the love of Houdini

:17:16. > :17:21.from you earlier on that you are celebrating 40 years of magic with

:17:22. > :17:28.UK tour. Is there an element of danger? I believe very strongly, as

:17:29. > :17:30.Houdini did, that nothing you do in entertainment should be more

:17:31. > :17:34.dangerous than sitting in your living room. The idea that people

:17:35. > :17:39.are really waiting for someone to get hurt does a disservice to the

:17:40. > :17:42.audience. I think you are supposed to be celebrating life. You do stuff

:17:43. > :17:48.that looks dangerous, like a roller-coaster. You go on a

:17:49. > :17:52.roller-coaster and this really it is dangerous but really you know you

:17:53. > :17:56.are safe. The kind of stuff that David Blaine does, when they pretend

:17:57. > :18:04.to starve themselves and go without air, is a little bit distasteful.

:18:05. > :18:09.Houdini always came out OK. Either way, so did Alan Alan. Of all the

:18:10. > :18:13.things you have done, what do you think has been the most successful?

:18:14. > :18:20.Will you be including that in this tour? I think we will be doing a

:18:21. > :18:29.very bloody soaring, soaring a person in half. We have tried to

:18:30. > :18:35.make it so there is no element of danger. We do the bullet catch which

:18:36. > :18:40.you cannot do over here. We do it in the US and the gun crazy culture. We

:18:41. > :18:44.do the bullet catch, which is the most dangerous trick imaginable. We

:18:45. > :18:52.have been doing it for 15 years and never the slightest injury. It is

:18:53. > :18:58.important when asking people to watch stuff that looks dangerous to

:18:59. > :19:01.know we are safe. In any sort of competition, the person who does not

:19:02. > :19:09.get hurt is the one who wins. That is what we are going for. You are on

:19:10. > :19:15.tour from 13th to the 22nd. I hope you know because I do not. We do not

:19:16. > :19:22.usually do this but we are going to show you a boring film next. Please.

:19:23. > :19:27.When we say boring, what we actually mean is tunnelling. It is a very

:19:28. > :19:33.happy birthday to the Channel Tunnel. In 1802, the French engineer

:19:34. > :19:38.was the first person to propose the idea of a cross Channel Tunnel. As

:19:39. > :19:46.France and Britain were at war, the idea was rejected by Napoleon

:19:47. > :19:50.themselves. It was until 192 years later, in 1994, that Britain and

:19:51. > :19:55.France were linked for the first time since the ice age. Creating the

:19:56. > :19:59.tunnel took vision, imagination, a hefty budget and engineering

:20:00. > :20:02.precision. When it opened, the American Society of civil engineers

:20:03. > :20:06.added it to their list of wonders of the modern world, alongside the

:20:07. > :20:11.golden gate Bridge in San Francisco, the Panama Canal and the

:20:12. > :20:17.Empire State Building. The Channel Tunnel is not just one tunnel, it is

:20:18. > :20:24.three. As that is where I am heading today, no need for a train ticket.

:20:25. > :20:27.Measuring 31.4 miles, it is the longest undersea tunnel in the

:20:28. > :20:34.world. It took almost seven years to build and cost ?9.5 million.

:20:35. > :20:40.Sanctioned by the British and French government, this was to be a

:20:41. > :20:50.privately funded project. It began in 1988. Nice to meet you. Today I

:20:51. > :20:54.am here to talk to Dave Johnson, one of the original engineers who worked

:20:55. > :21:00.on the project. How did you actually did this thing? What did you use?

:21:01. > :21:04.Tunnel boring machine is, basically. These were huge bit of

:21:05. > :21:07.agreement with a massive cutting edge at the front, which rotated

:21:08. > :21:15.with sharp, hard teeth, which basically tore away at the chalk.

:21:16. > :21:20.The material was deposited in a conveyor belt system which went

:21:21. > :21:26.behind, all the way back to the working surface. Does boil removed

:21:27. > :21:34.from the tunnel could have filled Wembley Stadium 13 times. -- the

:21:35. > :21:39.spoil. The waste was used to extend the Kent coastline by 90 acres.

:21:40. > :21:44.Today it is a haven for wildlife. In particular, rare orchids. British

:21:45. > :21:47.and French engineers were tunnelling at the same time needed to meet

:21:48. > :21:54.exactly in the middle. To achieve this, they both wallowed a seam of

:21:55. > :22:01.chalk marl, which ran under the Channel. It was soft enough to cut

:22:02. > :22:04.through and did not let in water. You have all these machines digging

:22:05. > :22:10.away and yet you are following the chalk. How did you know where it

:22:11. > :22:14.would meet? A lot of it was down to laser technology. It guided the

:22:15. > :22:19.tunnel boring machine, so you could get it pretty much exactly where you

:22:20. > :22:25.wanted it. It was not without its problems. Early on in the project,

:22:26. > :22:28.sea water penetrated the walls and cause delays and the costs

:22:29. > :22:34.spiralled. Engineers were determined to push forward. It was incredibly

:22:35. > :22:40.ambitious. The world 's longest tunnel being dug from either end.

:22:41. > :22:47.They met within a few millimetres when the breakthrough occurred on

:22:48. > :22:52.1st of December, 1990. Took the drills a few moments to cut through

:22:53. > :22:54.the final obstacle. Then a miner from Calais was exchanging thanks

:22:55. > :23:04.with his opposite number from Dover. Dave is taking me to the very spot

:23:05. > :23:15.where Britain and France became joint. This is it. This is the

:23:16. > :23:22.midpoint. What was it like, that day? What was the feeling like?

:23:23. > :23:27.There was a real sense of euphoria. It was a historic moment when the

:23:28. > :23:31.breakthrough came. There was a big cheer that went up. Everybody knew

:23:32. > :23:33.we had done it. I tagged it would take a further four years to

:23:34. > :23:36.complete the rout when the breakthrough came. There was a big

:23:37. > :23:38.cheer that went up. Everybody knew we had done it. I tagged it would

:23:39. > :23:44.take a further four years to complete the row in schedule and

:23:45. > :23:50.doubled the projected cost. Since then, it has transported over 1

:23:51. > :23:55.million cats and dogs, 20 million tracks, 40 million cards and a

:23:56. > :23:58.staggering 330 million passengers. To put that into perspective, that

:23:59. > :24:06.is more than the populations of the UK, France, Italy and Germany all

:24:07. > :24:10.added together. There were someone to full statistics to wrap the film

:24:11. > :24:17.up with. All right, the boys are now going to wow us with some Vegas

:24:18. > :24:23.style magic. You bought these two decks of cards. We did not buy them.

:24:24. > :24:29.You did not buy them yourself. Yes, we did. No, we didn't. One is red

:24:30. > :24:37.and one is blue. We will do this with you. I will go red. We have a

:24:38. > :24:50.razor blade should you need help opening it. I am all right. Here we

:24:51. > :24:55.go. We have the razor blade here. Four and a half minutes is going

:24:56. > :25:01.with me opening a packet of cards. That is not normally considered the

:25:02. > :25:07.hardest part of the trick. Here we go. Open it up. You will see it is

:25:08. > :25:11.sealed. Pull the cards out carefully. You will notice they are

:25:12. > :25:17.in a particular order. They are delivered to you in a particular

:25:18. > :25:22.order. Pull them out carefully. Let's see the order we have. Found

:25:23. > :25:31.them out. Throw those away. Turn them face up. You should have a

:25:32. > :25:37.joker and a joker. They go face up... Do not change the order. Those

:25:38. > :25:43.cards are in the exact same order. We are starting out with identical

:25:44. > :25:57.deck. Do you do any impersonations? Only a dolphin. Do a dolphin. On the

:25:58. > :26:04.spot, it is very difficult. Teller does physical impersonations. He is

:26:05. > :26:10.a very good mimic. He will do an impersonation of your shuffling. He

:26:11. > :26:16.was shuffle exactly like you. Do one over hand shuffle. Do it slowly and

:26:17. > :26:24.shuffle. He is copying you. Careful, careful. Looks right to me.

:26:25. > :26:28.Square them up. How are you doing? They should be in the same order.

:26:29. > :26:36.Shuffle again. Go a bit faster and make it hard for them. Here we go.

:26:37. > :26:41.Have you got it? Put the cards over there.

:26:42. > :26:49.Pick it up. Do not let the audience see it and do not let Teller see it.

:26:50. > :26:54.You will see, even though you shuffled, some of the spades stayed

:26:55. > :27:02.together. It is not a perfect shuffle. How did you do? Beautiful.

:27:03. > :27:07.I think we managed. Look through yours and find one near the middle

:27:08. > :27:13.and pull it out. Pick one at random and pull it out. Pull it out the

:27:14. > :27:18.deck. Put that back onto the top. Now, cut it into the middle remember

:27:19. > :27:25.what it is and cut it into the middle. Teller has done the same

:27:26. > :27:31.thing. Take the card back. Take his tech. Teller will take your deck and

:27:32. > :27:35.find your card game. It should be near the same place, wherever you

:27:36. > :27:42.cut it. Teller did the same thing you did. Do not cut them, just take

:27:43. > :27:47.the card out. Take the card out and they sit right down there. Do not

:27:48. > :27:54.cut it. Now, here is the hard part of this whole thing. Put the cards

:27:55. > :27:58.down there. I want you to make a cut... This is sometimes where he

:27:59. > :28:05.has trouble. Cut deep, about 40 cards off and leave about 12. Cut

:28:06. > :28:12.deep. Teller should be matching you there. Beautiful, beautiful. Come

:28:13. > :28:29.on, Teller. Matching you there. Pick them up. Just like Teller is, count

:28:30. > :28:38.them. How many did you get? He has much to perfectly so far. These two

:28:39. > :28:45.cards should be the same. Turned the top card over. That should be there

:28:46. > :28:54.and that should be there. And turned that one over. That should be there

:28:55. > :29:04.and that should be there. He has matched you completely. Very good.

:29:05. > :29:15.Wow! I will tell you what... He has followed you exactly. Ruth was on

:29:16. > :29:23.holiday and Jesus turned up. That is remarkable. This peacock has been

:29:24. > :29:28.sent him by Ben. A Goldring from Clacton. No explanation. Andrew

:29:29. > :29:37.Hargreaves had this coat ten art on his front door. Thank you both. The

:29:38. > :29:47.tour starts from the 13th of June. See you tomorrow night. Back then.

:29:48. > :29:51.Does anybody know exactly what they're eating?

:29:52. > :29:55.When these birds are gone, what happens to this place?