:00:21. > :00:27.Welcome to the One Show. It has been a big jubilee year for
:00:27. > :00:37.tonight's guest. She toured the world, meeting loyal subject, held
:00:37. > :00:51.
:00:51. > :00:58.# I'm spinning around... # APPLAUSE. The Impossible Princess,
:00:58. > :01:02.it is Kylie. It is lovely to have you on the shore. The last time we
:01:02. > :01:06.saw you will run a bus, backstage at the Jubilee concert. We spoke
:01:06. > :01:11.about it being 25 years in show business, but the concept must have
:01:11. > :01:17.gone well because she were back in front of royalty last week. I was,
:01:17. > :01:24.and more than that, I made Prince Charles do the Locomotion.
:01:24. > :01:34.didn't! He did a little bit of a dance. Was he any good? Yes. It has
:01:34. > :01:35.
:01:35. > :01:39.been a great year for you. You have been all over the place. Yes, two
:01:39. > :01:43.months left that we have done something special every month.
:01:43. > :01:50.you are celebrating 25 years of something like Kylie, she read with
:01:50. > :01:54.us and we will show as many as we can. -- shared with us. After a
:01:54. > :01:58.frantic few days of campaigning, Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have a
:01:58. > :02:04.few days -- arrows left to convince voters to vote for them. And
:02:04. > :02:08.banging the drum next to them are two very powerful woman. Who better
:02:08. > :02:13.to look at the real role of the political spouse than Glenys
:02:13. > :02:17.Kinnock, who very nearly ended up in Number Ten? In one of the
:02:17. > :02:22.closest American elections ever, two people who are not politicians
:02:22. > :02:27.have played a vital role. It is the mothers of this nation, single,
:02:27. > :02:33.married, widowed, who hold this nation together. At the end of the
:02:33. > :02:39.day, my most important title he is still mother. Throughout the
:02:39. > :02:46.campaign the candidates and their wives have been a highly visible,
:02:46. > :02:50.the promoter in their man on any TV at LED. The election role of
:02:50. > :02:56.political wives has always been clear. Nothing is too far for them.
:02:56. > :03:02.It is a world away from my experience of being the wife of a
:03:02. > :03:07.politician. I remember what it felt like when Neil Kinnock became
:03:08. > :03:13.leader of the Labour Party. I was very nervous. Unlike in America,
:03:13. > :03:19.waves were rarely seen and heard. - - political wives. They were wrong
:03:19. > :03:29.the wheeled out for the occasional photograph. And Jenkins became a
:03:29. > :03:34.political wife when her husband was elected. She founded very old-
:03:34. > :03:40.fashioned. They come as a shock? thought I knew, but the reality was
:03:41. > :03:47.quite different. Somebody asked me what I saw my role as. My answer
:03:47. > :03:54.was, whatever it took to be supportive. I knew that was the
:03:54. > :03:58.answer they were looking for. Every Friday was trying Raffles at a
:03:58. > :04:07.large function. The same with Saturday, and on Sunday, it would
:04:07. > :04:11.be civic service. I was always political so there was no way I
:04:11. > :04:16.would not go out on the campaign trail, but I understood I could not
:04:16. > :04:19.look like I was taking over. It was not that easy. In 1987, the
:04:19. > :04:27.Conservative Party accused me of being the real power behind Neil
:04:27. > :04:33.Kinnock. The Labour Party is being run by a woman who was not elected.
:04:33. > :04:39.She is the lady that makes the breakfast in the Neil Kinnock
:04:39. > :04:43.household. In fact, Edwina Currie got it completely wrong. In
:04:43. > :04:47.response we made what became quite a famous party political broadcast.
:04:47. > :04:54.It was the first time in the United Kingdom that a wife was used
:04:54. > :04:58.explicitly in her husband's campaign. They assume that one
:04:58. > :05:05.partner is dominating which I think is very immature. It does not make
:05:05. > :05:10.sense. Since then, others have followed our lead. Labour MP Peter
:05:10. > :05:14.pain's wife shied away from direct involvement in his parliamentary
:05:14. > :05:21.work. She was not prepared for how much impact been married to a
:05:21. > :05:26.politician would have won her life, running a recruitment agency.
:05:26. > :05:34.Peter decided to go for the deputy leadership, I remember being sat
:05:34. > :05:38.down by a friend and adviser of his, it been suggested to me over lunch
:05:38. > :05:43.that I should sell up the company or at the very least give up doing
:05:43. > :05:48.any of the public sector work. They said this was going to become an
:05:48. > :05:53.issue. It had not occurred to me. I did not see why I should be part of
:05:53. > :05:59.that process. When there were allegations against Peter for not
:05:59. > :06:02.donating -- declaring donations, which in the end he was let off, we
:06:02. > :06:06.were in the process of doing an investment and the investors walk
:06:06. > :06:12.away because of bad publicity about Peter. That is when I put my
:06:12. > :06:19.business into administration. spices being politically used in
:06:19. > :06:23.the marketing of their husbands, it does mean they are open to attack.
:06:23. > :06:27.In the United States, they are part of the territory, part of the story.
:06:27. > :06:31.It is unavoidable. In this country it is not the case, and women are
:06:31. > :06:37.still making choices about how close they get. At the end of the
:06:37. > :06:40.day, you are damned if you do and if you don't. In America, the wives
:06:40. > :06:50.have done all they can to help their husbands were in those
:06:50. > :06:50.
:06:50. > :06:54.crucial votes. Tomorrow we will know who will be in the crucial
:06:54. > :07:00.role of the First Lady. Justin Rowlatt is here to speak about it
:07:00. > :07:07.more. Obviously, they have gone down every avenue to get as many
:07:07. > :07:11.votes as they can. Will always help? Obviously they will. It is
:07:11. > :07:18.not just about humanising their husbands, they have been incredible
:07:18. > :07:23.campaigners. Did you realise that Michelle Obama has gone to 47
:07:23. > :07:27.rallies, 92 fund-raising events. They also have political influence.
:07:27. > :07:31.Michelle Obama is really keen that her husband is seen as a
:07:31. > :07:37.transformational president, somebody who changed the country.
:07:37. > :07:45.If she is not happy, she tells him so. It looks a better fate, you
:07:45. > :07:48.would think they would see through it. -- a bit unrealistic. Howard
:07:48. > :07:53.has the role of the First Lady compare with their counterparts
:07:53. > :07:58.over here? I think Glenys Kinnock is right, it is deferred but it is
:07:58. > :08:02.changing. At the last election, Sarah Brown was there, saying what
:08:02. > :08:06.a sensitive man Gordon Brown was. That is so different from Cherie
:08:06. > :08:12.Blair, she was really concerned to be seen as an independent woman
:08:12. > :08:18.with her own career, very keen on that. When she spoke out, she spoke
:08:18. > :08:24.about politics and was criticised. She had to say it was her speaking
:08:24. > :08:29.as an independent woman. Sounds like a difficult job. It is
:08:29. > :08:37.incredibly difficult. You do not have a formal role. It is striking
:08:37. > :08:41.the balance. It seems interesting for potential leaders did appear --
:08:41. > :08:49.to appear settled. Ed Miliband have to get married after he became
:08:49. > :08:53.leader. It is very hard to 0.2 everyone -- to speak about anyone
:08:53. > :08:58.who is not married, Ted Heath was unmarried. Alex Salmond is not
:08:58. > :09:08.married. We could find one, one American president who was not
:09:08. > :09:08.
:09:09. > :09:17.married. Anybody remember? James Buchanan, 1857. A bit before part-
:09:17. > :09:24.time. What about Julia Gillard? partner has a profile. That is a
:09:24. > :09:30.role reversal. Obviously he is influential as well. But I think
:09:30. > :09:35.she is wearing the plants. doesn't need anyone to stand up for
:09:35. > :09:41.her. -- she is wearing the underwear. I will not be lectured
:09:41. > :09:45.by sexism about -- about sexism by this man. If he wants to know what
:09:45. > :09:53.misogyny looks like, he does not need to put a motion to the House
:09:53. > :10:00.of Representatives, he needs an error. -- a mirror. You said you
:10:00. > :10:04.had not seen that. I read about it and I want to see the whole thing.
:10:04. > :10:09.Is there anything we can hear from the elections that have happened in
:10:09. > :10:13.the States? They have spent a fortune. Looking at the American
:10:13. > :10:18.elections, most people would say it is a good example of how not to do
:10:18. > :10:25.things. Billions of dollars have been spent, endless rallies, no
:10:25. > :10:33.real debate, look at that. Look at our electoral system and say, thank
:10:33. > :10:39.God it is not like that. television debate came from America.
:10:39. > :10:46.They are good, but they are quite narrow. Elsewhere, the debate is
:10:46. > :10:49.very limited. Our very own Tuffers will be giving his own take on
:10:49. > :10:55.election night after spending a night at the American embassy in
:10:55. > :10:58.his sleeping bag. That is an image for you. You can follow it with
:10:59. > :11:06.BBC's coverage tonight. To save you the trouble the sleepless night, we
:11:06. > :11:16.have an exclusive preview of the result. Is this accurate? I don't
:11:16. > :11:17.
:11:17. > :11:26.think we can say that for certain, Forget the pundits, this is
:11:26. > :11:36.Cheyenne the US bald eagle. Who will she choose? We have Mitt
:11:36. > :11:42.
:11:42. > :11:49.Romney on the left, let's see what Barack Obama wins it. Met Ronnie
:11:49. > :11:57.nearly had it. Thank you for letting you on the so far. We know
:11:57. > :12:03.that you're First Lady lets you wear the trousers. Over the past 25
:12:03. > :12:13.years, we have not been able to get Kylie's songs out of our heads.
:12:13. > :12:25.
:12:25. > :12:35.# I can't get you out of my head # Your loving is all I think about. #
:12:35. > :12:43.
:12:43. > :12:53.Every night. # Every day. # Just to be there in your arms.
:12:53. > :13:03.
:13:03. > :13:11.# I can't stand it. # Ever and We apologise for some of the images
:13:11. > :13:14.if you're having your dinner! was great, thank you. You have a
:13:14. > :13:20.bright new album, Abbey Road Sessions. It's absolutely
:13:20. > :13:26.phenomenal. It is Kylie classics for grown-ups. Is that right?
:13:26. > :13:35.could say that, but I have been thrilled with the response I got
:13:35. > :13:40.from fans on social media. Aside from the pop music, the production
:13:40. > :13:48.is taken away and replaced with classical instrumentation, guitars,
:13:48. > :13:56.piano. It is very moving. Some of it is quite strong. You can play a
:13:56. > :14:02.great game with it, you can try and guess which one it is. It will be
:14:02. > :14:07.good for a pub quizzes. Just when you thought you knew my songs.
:14:07. > :14:14.really changes the mood. The lyrics have a whole different meaning.
:14:14. > :14:21.was a lot of fun reinterpreting them. Some songs, one of my songs
:14:21. > :14:31.from the 1980s, I did not pay too much attention to the lyrics, and
:14:31. > :14:41.it is a very sad version. Hand on heart, I did not realise what it
:14:41. > :14:43.
:14:43. > :14:52.was until this chorus. Let's hear the track.
:14:52. > :14:56.# I can't get you out of my head. # All the lovers... #
:14:56. > :15:06.All the lovers... # All the lovers... #
:15:06. > :15:06.
:15:06. > :15:16.#I should be so lucky... # Lucky, lucky.
:15:16. > :15:21.
:15:21. > :15:28.That's a classic example. Could you ever go back to singing it the
:15:28. > :15:34.other way? Well, I just came back from doing a show, a 90-minute show
:15:34. > :15:38.in Abu Dhabi, because I was confused with all the edits and now
:15:38. > :15:41.I'm going, which version is it? If - depending on whether it's
:15:42. > :15:48.something like proms in the park where we performed these versions
:15:48. > :15:52.or the pop version, yeah, I have to have my thinking hat on. Among all
:15:52. > :15:57.the classics, there is a new track, but you have performed it before
:15:57. > :16:03.and it's called Flower and it's a song that will resonate with girls
:16:03. > :16:08.like you, who are of a certain age. What is the story? I wrote it in
:16:08. > :16:12.2007 and it didn't make that album, which turned out to be an
:16:12. > :16:19.electronic album. I had written the lyrics about whether or not I would
:16:19. > :16:25.be able to have a child, so it's like a love letter to a child, a
:16:26. > :16:30.spirit. It's a beautiful song. It just didn't make it on to the
:16:30. > :16:34.album. I performed it on tour, because I needed to get it out of
:16:34. > :16:38.my system and since then it's been a real fan favourite and I was so
:16:38. > :16:42.delighted that it ended up on the album. It's so hard, because it's a
:16:42. > :16:49.subject that everybody keeps asking you about. Yeah. I don't like
:16:49. > :16:53.talking about it and then I release a song about it. I was asked or it
:16:53. > :16:57.was written about saying I'm feeling broody and it's from 2007,
:16:57. > :17:00.so obviously it's on my mind, but it's something that's a delicate
:17:00. > :17:08.balance between how much you want to share with the public or not.
:17:08. > :17:12.Are you going on tour then with this new style? I haven't got
:17:12. > :17:18.anything planned, but proms in the park was a great, great experience.
:17:18. > :17:23.I know it can be done. It's a really good balance for me to have
:17:23. > :17:28.the big pop shows and then have - this show is spectacular in a
:17:28. > :17:32.different way, but stripped back and not flying on things like I
:17:32. > :17:36.normally do. You need different venues? If I could snap my fingers
:17:36. > :17:42.I would make it happen, because it's a real pleasure to perform in
:17:42. > :17:50.that way. All your fans are crossing their fingers. The album
:17:50. > :17:57.is out now. On Friday, our six fantastic young riders will be
:17:57. > :18:01.starting their anticipatic 411-mile journey from Llandudno to London
:18:01. > :18:05.for Children in Need. We have a 6am start on Friday morning, which I
:18:05. > :18:08.can't wait for. We've already met some of the inspirational
:18:08. > :18:13.youngsters who are taking part in the challenge and today we meet
:18:13. > :18:20.James, who has had to put his whole life on hold to care for his very
:18:20. > :18:24.poorly mum, brother and sister. name's James. I'm 18. Since I was
:18:24. > :18:30.four or five I became a young carer. I care for three members of my
:18:30. > :18:36.family, my brother and sister and mum. My brother is autistic and my
:18:36. > :18:44.sister is also autistic, with spine problems and my mum suffered from a
:18:44. > :18:48.brain injury. I had encephalitis 16 years ago and it left me with a
:18:49. > :18:58.brain injury. I am forgetful and I am weak down one side and I have no
:18:58. > :19:03.concentration. I forget when things are in the oven and I forget when
:19:03. > :19:11.I'm cooking. James has been a God send with helping out with the
:19:11. > :19:18.family because I go off to work early. To organise the two siblings
:19:18. > :19:22.and his mum, he's been an absolute rock. It's hard to live with
:19:22. > :19:29.someone who has got severe autism. It's very difficult because my
:19:29. > :19:32.brother will get up very early. He has four hours sleep. I need to
:19:33. > :19:39.help my sister get up and getting washed. It's hard for her to walk
:19:39. > :19:41.about for very long. I also help with her physio and during school I
:19:42. > :19:47.wasn't concentrating very well, because I was tired throughout the
:19:47. > :19:52.days and in the back of my mind I'm always thinking if mum is OK or is
:19:52. > :19:57.my sister all right. I think being a young carer has been hard on
:19:57. > :20:00.James because he's missed out on doing the stuff ordinary kids do.
:20:00. > :20:06.Getting out and about. Bringing friends home. He's not been able to
:20:06. > :20:10.do any of that. That's been an awful shame. He didn't really have
:20:10. > :20:14.much sense of his own worth. As much as I needed him, I wanted him
:20:14. > :20:22.to go out and just get his confidence and realise how
:20:22. > :20:27.brilliant he was. Crossroads is a place for young carers to meet up
:20:27. > :20:32.and hang out and get away from everything. It's given James the
:20:32. > :20:41.freedom to go out and be a teenager and go out there and he can blow
:20:41. > :20:47.off steam and generally be with all the kids. I have known James since
:20:47. > :20:52.he was ten years of age. We have supported him and his family over
:20:52. > :20:58.that decade. Actually, it's been wonderful to see that young boy
:20:58. > :21:04.turning into a young man that he is today. I'm doing the rickshaw
:21:04. > :21:09.challenge to raise awareness for Crossroads as they are overlooked
:21:09. > :21:12.and teachers don't really know that their students are young carers so
:21:12. > :21:16.they are treated the same as everybody else, when actually they
:21:17. > :21:19.have quite a lot of stuff on their plates so they struggle. I think
:21:19. > :21:24.the challenge is definitely going to be one of the toughest things
:21:24. > :21:28.I've done. If there's one thing I'm worried about, it's the hills, as
:21:28. > :21:32.the rickshaw is very heavy. gives him the opportunity to give
:21:32. > :21:37.something back and if he can raise a lot of money for Children in Need
:21:37. > :21:42.that would be absolutely brilliant. To see him doing something like
:21:42. > :21:45.this, it's great, he deserves to have some fun.
:21:45. > :21:50.APPLAUSE A strong member of the team there.
:21:50. > :21:58.Kylie, would you do us a massive favour and tell our viaers how they
:21:58. > :22:01.can text to support. To show your support text team to 70705.
:22:01. > :22:06.Messages will cost �5 and that will go to Children in Need. You must
:22:06. > :22:11.ask the bill payer's permission before you text. You can visit the
:22:11. > :22:21.website for all terms and conditions. You can also donate any
:22:21. > :22:23.
:22:23. > :22:29.amount you like by sending a cheque to the rickshaw challenge: We don't
:22:29. > :22:33.mind how you send the money, as long as you send the money. We
:22:33. > :22:36.start in Snowdonia National Park. It's very hilly. You wouldn't
:22:36. > :22:41.believe it. The terrain is literally like that. Are they going
:22:41. > :22:46.to do it, Matt? Well, you know what, we are setting out and we've got
:22:46. > :22:52.the directions in mind and we'll keep going. We have a few little
:22:52. > :23:01.plans. We had eight Po ten shals, but we narrowed it down to six --
:23:01. > :23:06.potentials that we narrowed it down to six. If it's all too much?
:23:06. > :23:12.just - I might have to hop on. You might have to hop on. I'll be on
:23:12. > :23:20.then. Kylie, you might have to hop on. I can cycle for five minutes.
:23:20. > :23:23.Good. From Friday, the One Show is going on the road. It would be
:23:23. > :23:28.brilliant if you can turn out and support us as we make our way to
:23:28. > :23:32.London. On Monday, our whole show will be live from Cardiff. If
:23:32. > :23:37.you're near come down to the castle to cheer the riders on. Then on
:23:37. > :23:40.Tuesday, we will be in Bath, Salisbury and Reading on Thursday,
:23:40. > :23:47.before making our way to London for the big special from London on
:23:47. > :23:55.Friday night. Great. Pack your thermals, it's going to be cold.
:23:55. > :24:03.OK! Speaking of them, now some droughty old ruins may not be
:24:03. > :24:10.everybody's idea of a rezrez. one. These -- des res. Nice one
:24:10. > :24:17.these are happy anywhere. Britain's fascinating past has left behind a
:24:17. > :24:21.land full of ruins. These buildings may no longer be used for their
:24:21. > :24:28.original purpose, but many provide a home to some unusual occupants.
:24:28. > :24:32.This is Mount Grace Priorary in North Yorkshire. It was built in
:24:32. > :24:36.1898 and it's the best preserved monastery in the country, but it's
:24:36. > :24:41.not monks that the place is famous for now, but something a little
:24:41. > :24:45.more elusive, stoats. Since the early days of the monastery,
:24:45. > :24:49.wildlife here has played an important role. There was even a
:24:49. > :24:53.licence to control the rabbit population dating back to 1310.
:24:53. > :24:57.More recently, the stoats here have become quite a tourist attraction
:24:57. > :25:02.and I went to catch a look for myself, but as they're so quick and
:25:02. > :25:09.nimble I need to enlist the help of Barbara Owen from English Heritage.
:25:09. > :25:16.The ruins here are just stunning. Why do they love it here? Why is it
:25:16. > :25:19.ideal for stoats? The food source is good, lots of bunnies. Where
:25:19. > :25:23.there are rabbits there should be stoats as well. The link between
:25:23. > :25:26.the stoat and the rabbit is surprising. As almost ten times
:25:26. > :25:33.their size, the rabbit is the favourite prey of these small,
:25:33. > :25:38.agile hunters. With plenty of prey around, these ruins provide the
:25:38. > :25:41.perfect ambush opportunity for a hungry stoat. The drainage tiles
:25:41. > :25:45.are fascinating, because they're everywhere and it looks hi-tech,
:25:45. > :25:49.but that is a great place for a stoat to run down. Yes. You see
:25:49. > :25:57.them going into the drain and you lose sight of them and then some
:25:57. > :26:01.time later they'll pop up somewhere else. If the stoats are regularly
:26:01. > :26:05.being seen using the drainage channels to get around the site,
:26:05. > :26:14.then if we put a camera track like this down, we may just get a chance
:26:14. > :26:23.of catching a glimpse of one. With all the kit and crew spread around
:26:23. > :26:33.the monastery, all we can do now is sit patiently and wait. And wait
:26:33. > :26:36.
:26:36. > :26:42.some more. After nearly two days of waiting in this beautiful priorary,
:26:42. > :26:49.we saw the sum total of two squirrels, one pheasant and lots
:26:49. > :26:53.and lots of bunnies. But just as we were about to give up, we finally
:26:53. > :26:57.caught the briefest, most tantalising glimpse of a stoat.
:26:57. > :27:06.They were here all along, just hiding from view in this Medieval
:27:06. > :27:11.maze. Those fleeting appearances were enough to entice our cameramen
:27:11. > :27:21.who came back day after day until he was rewarded with a simply
:27:21. > :27:37.
:27:37. > :27:41.For me, the stoat has lived up to his reputation of being elusive,
:27:41. > :27:48.but it's really good to know the long-term residents are still
:27:48. > :27:53.thriving in their lovely spot. Lovely. How nice to be able to
:27:53. > :27:58.introduce Kylie to the stoat. cute. They are. Now, we would like
:27:58. > :28:02.to just say sorry to Alex and Moira, who are very much married, despite
:28:02. > :28:07.what Justin said earlier on. they are probably rowing now after
:28:07. > :28:11.that. We hope you make up soon. We talked about you being 25 years in
:28:11. > :28:18.showbiz and celebrating that and you've got a lovely book out as
:28:18. > :28:23.well. It's a lovely coffee table book, with all your looks that you
:28:23. > :28:29.have worn in the shows. They are many and varied. Over 25 years.
:28:29. > :28:37.like this one actually. Can you explain the story behind this one?
:28:37. > :28:42.That was shot for Australian Vogue and my hair was just growing back
:28:42. > :28:47.after chemo treatment and so I was channelling Joan of Arc and trying
:28:47. > :28:51.to be strong when I probably wasn't feeling that strong. I think it's
:28:51. > :28:55.beautiful. I think. It must be something for you to look back on.
:28:55. > :28:59.Of all the things I've done this year, that's been the hardest thing,
:28:59. > :29:02.making that book, because I say it's like when you - if you're
:29:02. > :29:07.moving house and you get to the park where your photo albums are
:29:07. > :29:16.and you get stuck because everything has a memory and it was
:29:16. > :29:21.hard. So many people have sent in their pictures of their last 25.