:00:19. > :00:23.Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones. Coming
:00:23. > :00:26.up tonight, we are going to be finding out why a bus full of
:00:27. > :00:31.Lottery millionaires, including Britain's biggest winner, is on a
:00:31. > :00:41.magical trip across the country. First, a singer-songwriter that has
:00:41. > :00:41.
:00:41. > :00:51.written many tunes you might # You make me feel like a Natural
:00:51. > :01:01.
:01:01. > :01:06.As luck would have it, it is the very song and I am doing the waltz
:01:06. > :01:11.took on Strictly on Saturday night. By sheer coincidence, the lovely
:01:11. > :01:15.lady who wrote that song is with us tonight, Carole King. Lovely to see
:01:15. > :01:21.you. Can you believe that? It is just a massive coincidence. I know,
:01:21. > :01:24.I heard about it. I was thrilled. We haven't fully choreographed the
:01:24. > :01:30.dance yet. What was going through your head when you wrote it? It
:01:30. > :01:33.might inspire me to add a bit of a story. I don't know. I can't say
:01:33. > :01:39.what was going through my head, but I know I have had many people come
:01:39. > :01:49.up to me and say, you know, I conceived my little girl to that
:01:49. > :01:54.song. Well, we won't go that far... You don't want to act that out?
:01:54. > :01:59.you in the UK for a long time? a week. It would be lovely if you
:01:59. > :02:03.wanted to come on Saturday and see us perform it. Alas, I am leaving
:02:03. > :02:08.the day before your performance. You will be there in spirit.
:02:09. > :02:12.Christmas spirit. I will be, it is so great that you're doing that.
:02:12. > :02:17.will be speaking to Carroll later about her new Christmas album, A
:02:17. > :02:22.Christmas Carole. I see what you did then! We are sure you know,
:02:22. > :02:26.Carole, that gun laws are much tighter here than in the States.
:02:26. > :02:30.But it might come as a surprise that children as young as 10 have
:02:30. > :02:33.been granted shotgun licences in the UK. Lucy Siegle has been to
:02:33. > :02:43.meet one young lad who feels strongly that it can be a safe
:02:43. > :02:46.
:02:46. > :02:50.Strolling in the countryside, it is not uncommon these days to hear the
:02:50. > :02:55.sound of gunshots in the distance. Over 1 million people enjoy
:02:55. > :03:00.shooting in Britain. If you think you know the profile of them, you
:03:00. > :03:04.might be surprised. The surprise is that there are nearly 5000 children
:03:04. > :03:07.in England and Wales who possess shotgun licences. Now there is a
:03:08. > :03:13.new Bill in Parliament that wants to make 14 the minimum age for
:03:13. > :03:18.holding one. That would rule out 13-year-old Jordan stead. I thought
:03:18. > :03:23.it was exciting. When you are a kid, you start shooting a gun, everybody
:03:23. > :03:28.wants to try it and stuff. Did you have to learn about respect for the
:03:28. > :03:32.gun? The first coaching lesson I had, they sat me in a room and they
:03:32. > :03:37.told me the basics of the gun, how to use it and all of the safety.
:03:37. > :03:41.They didn't just let me walk out and shoot it. Anti-gun campaigners
:03:41. > :03:45.have already succeeded in getting many types of firearms banned for
:03:45. > :03:50.shooting enthusiasts of all ages. Now they are turning their
:03:50. > :03:53.attention to young shotgun licence holders. Jordan's dad is not happy.
:03:53. > :03:59.Do you understand people who say that no children should be around
:03:59. > :04:03.guns? I totally disagree with that. If you are at a gun club or
:04:03. > :04:09.shooting School, it is totally safe. We are not running about the
:04:09. > :04:13.streets with guns. We are in a safe place, proper environment. Jordan
:04:13. > :04:19.is very level-headed and focused, but children of 10 have been
:04:19. > :04:23.getting gun licences. Do you think that is OK? Yes, the sport is that
:04:23. > :04:27.they get a licence. They cannot actually take the gun out. I have
:04:27. > :04:31.got to get the gun out of the Cabinet and give it to him. Their
:04:31. > :04:38.parents have to go with them. There is massive responsibility on the
:04:38. > :04:42.parents. Anti-gun campaigner Lucy copes's 22-year-old son, Damian,
:04:42. > :04:46.was shot and killed in London. She thinks giving kids any access to
:04:46. > :04:51.guns is likely to result in more deaths. She has never visited a
:04:51. > :04:55.shooting range. This is the first time she has come face-to-face with
:04:55. > :05:01.gun enthusiasts. The Experience is proving more difficult than she
:05:02. > :05:06.imagined. Have you got any pre- conceptions about the sort of
:05:07. > :05:16.people that will be here? Whoever they may be, they are very
:05:17. > :05:19.
:05:19. > :05:25.This is Charlie. How do you do? Sorry that it is a shock to the
:05:25. > :05:31.system. It is a big shock. Pretty scary for you? You are completely
:05:31. > :05:35.safe, there is no danger. There are no instances of guns being stolen
:05:35. > :05:39.from clay shooting ranges. They are not weapons that are used in crime.
:05:39. > :05:49.Guns are not used in crime? These sporting weapons. They can be
:05:49. > :05:53.converted. Well, they can be. Only in the wrong hands. It is not the
:05:53. > :05:59.weapon that kills, it is the person. It is the weapon, it is the bullets
:05:59. > :06:04.that killed. You are flinching every time a bullet gets fired.
:06:05. > :06:11.is horrible. What I am hearing is the last sound that my son heard.
:06:11. > :06:15.Every time I hear the shot guns go off, I am counting the amount of
:06:15. > :06:20.lives I now have been taken. Lucy is never going to be convinced. She
:06:20. > :06:23.is opposed to the idea of shooting. Statistically, there is very little
:06:24. > :06:28.evidence of sporting guns being used in crime. It is illegal
:06:28. > :06:33.weapons being used in crime, not legally held once. I think people
:06:33. > :06:37.have a misconception that people are being shot, these gang related
:06:37. > :06:41.incidents are using legally held weapons. They are not, they are
:06:41. > :06:44.using illegally obtained guns. It is an Olympic sport that children
:06:45. > :06:47.participate in safely, and have done for years. It doesn't mean
:06:47. > :06:52.that because you use a gun you are suddenly going to want to kill
:06:52. > :06:58.someone. What is the connection between shooting as a sport and
:06:58. > :07:03.leisure, as we are seeing here, and the tragic, tragic circumstances in
:07:03. > :07:09.which your son was killed? This kind of thing hypes them up. They
:07:09. > :07:13.hear about this kind of stuff and see it. They learn from it and it
:07:13. > :07:22.doesn't matter if it is Grantham or if it is Nottingham or London. This
:07:22. > :07:26.kind of thing just shows these boys that it is cool. Very interesting
:07:26. > :07:31.to see what comes from that. We were just talking during the film,
:07:31. > :07:36.it is a different situation in America, in the countryside, the
:07:36. > :07:41.wilderness, with bears and what have you. There is a reason. If
:07:41. > :07:45.people go hiking with their grandchildren, if a bear came along,
:07:45. > :07:49.maybe the first response would be to shoot into the air and scare it.
:07:49. > :07:55.I am a third and the leader in animal rights. But I am also a
:07:55. > :08:01.believer in the right to protect yourself and your children. But I
:08:01. > :08:06.do think that in America there is an excess of use of guns, a lack of
:08:06. > :08:09.education about it. We have a lot of work to do, but we have to
:08:09. > :08:12.counteract the National Rifle Association, the lobbying
:08:12. > :08:19.association for the manufacturers. Do you have something like that
:08:19. > :08:23.here? Yes, with this Bill going through, there's lots of...
:08:23. > :08:27.complex! You don't have to give me the whole answer, but I understand.
:08:28. > :08:33.For now for a musical mystery you might not have heard about. Rumour
:08:33. > :08:37.has it that Carole's old friend Paul Simon was inspired to write
:08:37. > :08:45.homeward-bound on his way from the town of Widnes in Cheshire. Carrie
:08:45. > :08:50.Grant looks at the evidence. In 1965, a stranger came to stay on
:08:50. > :08:55.this quiet suburban street, in a sleepy Cheshire town. He was an
:08:55. > :09:00.American folk singer who hardly anyone had heard of. The stranger's
:09:00. > :09:04.name was Paul Simon. That's right, the same Paul Sion and -- Paul
:09:04. > :09:07.Simon who, in my opinion, has written some of the greatest songs
:09:07. > :09:13.of the past 50 years. It is said that one of his biggest hits and
:09:13. > :09:16.most enduring songs was inspired ride here in Widnes. Ben Bowden
:09:16. > :09:24.plays in a Simon and Garfunkel tribute group and is something of
:09:24. > :09:32.an expert on his hero. He told me that Paul came to Britain to live
:09:32. > :09:36.after their first album flopped. The group split, and he went on a
:09:36. > :09:42.tour around Britain. Was it just for the gigs? I think he was
:09:42. > :09:50.writing as well. Being the artist he is, he was absorbing at the
:09:51. > :09:55.In Widnes, he stayed at the House of a man who booked him to play at
:09:55. > :09:59.a local club. Geoff Speed now has a folk music show on BBC Radio
:10:00. > :10:03.Merseyside. How did he end up staying with him? It is the sort of
:10:03. > :10:07.thing that happened. You booked him to sing and he would offer him
:10:07. > :10:14.their accommodation. He would sit in this room, look through the
:10:14. > :10:18.window. He had a note pad, which he would be writing songs in. His folk
:10:18. > :10:23.club had not yet got a permanent base, so he hired rooms when he
:10:23. > :10:28.could. Paul was paid �12 for each gate. I've got the receipt, they
:10:28. > :10:38.made him sign for it. He played four or five, and one of them was
:10:38. > :10:42.up there in the Windsor Rooms. Paul played here on September 13th, 1965.
:10:42. > :10:48.The support act was the black diamonds. Their singer was Chris
:10:49. > :10:53.Sherwin. Can you paint me a picture of what this place looked like?
:10:53. > :10:57.home-made stage, a wooden box stage. We sang on it and introduced Paul
:10:57. > :11:03.to the audience. Is there a particular song that stood out for
:11:03. > :11:13.you? I think sound of silence was definitely a winner. The haunting
:11:13. > :11:15.
:11:15. > :11:18.How does it feel, knowing that you have played on the same stage as
:11:18. > :11:24.such a legend? It is a great story to tell the children and
:11:24. > :11:29.grandchildren. The Windsor Rooms was where he played, but it is time
:11:29. > :11:32.spent at Widnes station, as he prepared to leave the town, that
:11:32. > :11:42.has gone down in folklore. It is said that he had quite a wait, so
:11:42. > :11:48.
:11:48. > :11:52.Homeward Bound is an American sounding June, but it is set in and
:11:52. > :12:02.inspired by the North of England. This plaque claims it was written
:12:02. > :12:02.
:12:02. > :12:06.on the platform. Geoff Speed thinks differently. No. I dropped him off
:12:06. > :12:11.before the train was due. We said our farewells, as he walked through
:12:11. > :12:15.the door, the train came through the station. If he wrote it in that
:12:15. > :12:21.time, he was a miracle worker. himself is vague about where it was
:12:21. > :12:25.written, as he said when he appeared on Going Live in 1990.
:12:25. > :12:29.played in Widnes, Warrington and Liverpool. It was on that trip that
:12:29. > :12:34.I wrote the song Homeward Bound, about going back to London. I think
:12:34. > :12:42.that is why they put the plaque up. He soon was Homeward Bound to New
:12:42. > :12:47.York. In January 1966, do sound of Silence hit the charts and he
:12:47. > :12:52.returned to form Simon and Garfunkel. One thing is clear, he
:12:52. > :12:56.was a dedicated musician. That helped him to become one of popular
:12:56. > :13:03.music's greatest ever songwriters. How brilliant that little old
:13:04. > :13:09.Widnes had a part to play in that. Carole, enthusiastically nodding at
:13:09. > :13:13.that. Dedicated musician? Absolutely. I saw him perform in
:13:13. > :13:18.New York and he is as good, or better than ever. You said you were
:13:18. > :13:23.going to e-mail him when you get back, to clarify? I will see if I
:13:23. > :13:28.can get an answer! Let's talk about your Christmas album, A Christmas
:13:28. > :13:33.Carole. Everybody has their favourite Christmas track. How did
:13:33. > :13:37.you pick the 12? I worked with my daughter, Louise. She was my
:13:37. > :13:42.producer. She brought me most of the tracks. Some of her favourites.
:13:42. > :13:46.I picked from those. They are not all of the usual ones. For example,
:13:46. > :13:55.every day will be like a holiday. It is not specifically about
:13:55. > :14:01.Christmas. This Christmas is another song. They were not the
:14:01. > :14:06.usual ones. Christmas is a family time. You have three generations on
:14:06. > :14:11.one of the tracks, Handicap Prayer? I wanted to include something from
:14:11. > :14:16.my heritage. Louise said, singing to his microphone, I will put it
:14:16. > :14:23.into my computer and build a song. She did. We both sing on that, and
:14:23. > :14:27.had little boy, 8 at the time. I love the idea that the prayer that
:14:27. > :14:31.my parents taught me is marching forwards through the generations.
:14:31. > :14:41.Let's have a little look at New Year's Day, from the album. Louise
:14:41. > :14:42.
:14:42. > :14:46.# In this time of your life. # Everything is going to turn out
:14:46. > :14:56.all right. # It will be OK, in every way.
:14:56. > :15:00.
:15:00. > :15:04.# Making it better. The relationship that you have with
:15:04. > :15:12.your daughter, is it hard with her being like a boss or does it happen
:15:12. > :15:16.relaxed around the kitchen table? It was as we say in New York, like
:15:16. > :15:20.butter, talk amongst yourselves. It was so easy, she has a real gift
:15:20. > :15:24.for producing and she co-wrote that song with one of your fellow
:15:24. > :15:30.citizens, Guy chambers. Part of the reason why Louise has produced it
:15:30. > :15:37.is because you are busy writing your memoirs. That's right, thank
:15:37. > :15:39.you, lovely segue. Why has it taken you so long? I have been living my
:15:39. > :15:44.life, supporting American presidential candidates and the
:15:44. > :15:48.like and working to protect biodiversity and things like that.
:15:48. > :15:51.But it's coming out in April. It's published in April. It was great
:15:51. > :15:54.fun to write and I didn't have brain space for this, Louise took
:15:54. > :16:01.it over. That's April, but Christmas Carole is out now.
:16:01. > :16:06.Now, earlier we showed thu bus load of lottery winers who set off on
:16:06. > :16:12.Monday from Loch Lomond with a road trip with a difference.
:16:12. > :16:15.Anita has been to join them to find out what they're up to and why they
:16:15. > :16:19.need wrapping paper. This Christmas for the first time
:16:19. > :16:23.ever, lucky lottery winners will be playing at Santa and travelling to
:16:23. > :16:29.ten children's hospices around Britain and making festive wishes
:16:29. > :16:33.come true. How are they going to do it? On the Winner Wonderland bus,
:16:33. > :16:38.of course. When was the last time you all travelled on a bus?
:16:38. > :16:45.But before this London London routemaster bus can make its way
:16:45. > :16:50.across the country it needs to be more Christmas-y.
:16:50. > :16:55.# Everybody's having fun # Look to the future...
:16:55. > :17:00.They said to the kids go and get the tickets, we might have won a
:17:00. > :17:05.tenner. I said oh dear, she said what's wrong, have we won more than
:17:05. > :17:10.a ten stpher. I said it could be. How many numbers have you got? I
:17:10. > :17:16.said six. Helping wrap the presents is Europe's biggest ever lottery
:17:16. > :17:20.winner, Chris who won �161 million. I am wrapping up some presents for
:17:20. > :17:25.the children's hospice. These are presents for little girls.
:17:25. > :17:29.Christmas is a time for children. It make it is so much more special.
:17:29. > :17:32.Nobody wants to be in hospital at Christmas.
:17:32. > :17:38.The bus arrives and the millionaires set to work,
:17:38. > :17:44.delivering their gifts to the children in the hospice.
:17:44. > :17:48.Shall we see what you have got? It's a nice thing for them to do
:17:48. > :17:52.for all the kids, it's lovely. great being hands-on, rather than
:17:52. > :18:02.donating some money. It's good to see what they're actually doing and
:18:02. > :18:05.
:18:05. > :18:15.being hands-on. He is actually 18, the disease, they don't usually
:18:15. > :18:16.
:18:16. > :18:21.live to 18. He loves it. They have a jacuzzi. One hospice done. Nine
:18:21. > :18:24.more to go. Next stop Newcastle. 150 miles south. A new group of
:18:24. > :18:32.lottery millionaires are waiting to deliver presents.
:18:32. > :18:39.I know it's not Christmas, but we should open it.
:18:39. > :18:43.OK. It is a Scalextric. Wow! can't think of a hospice as a sad
:18:43. > :18:47.place. They're here to make whatever the children have got left
:18:47. > :18:51.happy. This little girl is the most gorgeous little girl. She's happy.
:18:51. > :18:55.You have won the lottery and you have been given this huge lump sum
:18:55. > :18:58.of money. Anybody could do this, regardless of how much money
:18:58. > :19:01.they've got. Yes, they need thousands to run the place and
:19:01. > :19:05.millions, but they also need little things too and that's the most
:19:05. > :19:08.important thing at this time of the year, the little things that make a
:19:08. > :19:12.difference to those children. has been an incredible day and what
:19:12. > :19:15.it's made me realise is that anyone can do this. You don't have to have
:19:15. > :19:20.millions in the bank to buy a present and put a smile on a
:19:20. > :19:23.child's face. What a nice thoeupbg do. -- thing
:19:23. > :19:27.to do. The bus will continue to travel up and down the country for
:19:27. > :19:30.the rest of the week. L Carole, as you are here to talk about
:19:30. > :19:33.Christmas songs, we thought we would put your expertise to the
:19:33. > :19:37.test. We have got some of the hopefuls for the number one slot
:19:37. > :19:43.this year. We would like to know whether you think that they are a
:19:43. > :19:48.Christmas cracker. Or a Christmas Turkey. The first is
:19:48. > :19:58.from a reality show, we call it TOWIE, it's a bunch of people from
:19:58. > :20:01.
:20:01. > :20:11.Essex and they have remade the Wham single... I recorded it, there may
:20:11. > :20:11.
:20:11. > :20:14.be a version of it. I know the song. # Last Christmas I gave you my
:20:14. > :20:24.heart # The very next day you gave it
:20:24. > :20:30.away so, is it a cracker or a Turkey?
:20:30. > :20:40.APPLAUSE. Gone for cracker. know what, it's the song. The song
:20:40. > :20:42.
:20:42. > :20:52.choice. Great song. Next, it's the Wombles of Wimbledon. It's Wombling
:20:52. > :20:53.
:20:53. > :20:58.Merry Christmas. P we wish you a Wombling merry
:20:58. > :21:04.Christmas. Turkey or cracker? Turkey. They
:21:04. > :21:14.don't have mouths! How can they be singing? The final one is a
:21:14. > :21:15.
:21:15. > :21:25.tearjerker from a ten-year-old girl called Arrina Morgan.
:21:25. > :21:31.
:21:31. > :21:41.# The songbirds keep singing # And I love you, I love you
:21:41. > :21:41.
:21:41. > :21:50.#. Surely you can't say Turkey, can you? No. It's a cracker! APPLAUSE.
:21:50. > :21:53.Lovely. See if your predictions come true. Dr George McGavin loves
:21:53. > :22:00.travelling around the country examining curious beasts. Tonight
:22:00. > :22:05.he is in Dumfriesshire to examine a creature that's not changed in
:22:05. > :22:11.millions of years. It's a triops. Thank goodness, I thought you were
:22:11. > :22:18.talking about Bruce. The British Isles, during the
:22:18. > :22:23.triassic period. A land ruled by prehistoric giants. Now long gone.
:22:23. > :22:28.But there is a species that's still here. For over 200 million years it
:22:28. > :22:33.hasn't changed in size or appearance. These prehistoric
:22:34. > :22:43.beasts are triops, the oldest creatures on earth. Recently, they
:22:44. > :22:49.
:22:49. > :22:53.have been discovered off the west coast of Scotland. Dr Larry Griffin
:22:54. > :22:57.monitors the numbers. Well, I am very excited because I haven't seen
:22:57. > :23:06.these things in the wild. They should hopefully be sitting
:23:06. > :23:14.newspaper the shallows, -- sitting up in the shallows. See, over there.
:23:14. > :23:20.Just off that little ridge of mud there. I can see it. It's a large
:23:20. > :23:30.one, actually. Are they quick? They're fairly nippy. That's
:23:30. > :23:30.
:23:30. > :23:40.incredible. Look at that. That's the first time I have ever caught a
:23:40. > :23:44.
:23:44. > :23:53.prehistoric monster. My goodness, that's a fair beast. Triops are are
:23:53. > :24:00.crustaceans. They feed on anything from dead animal matter to cow dung.
:24:00. > :24:05.The three eyes, you can see why they're called triops, they have
:24:05. > :24:10.two at the front, and a tiny one in the middle, which is a single
:24:10. > :24:15.little eye. What is really amazing to me is that here we are and we as
:24:15. > :24:21.a species evolved only a fifth of a million years ago on the plains of
:24:21. > :24:25.Africa. This thing, 200 million years old. I mean, what a survivor.
:24:25. > :24:29.I guess that design is still suited to this sort of habitat. It's a
:24:29. > :24:33.simple habitat. There is not a lot of other competitors in there.
:24:33. > :24:41.There's been no tinkering particularly by evolution. It's
:24:41. > :24:47.stayed as it is. If it it ain't bust, don't fix it. Living in
:24:47. > :24:50.shallow pools they have a remarkable life cycle. An
:24:50. > :24:56.individual triops is male and female, meaning you only need one
:24:56. > :25:00.for a population of these beasts to develop. Their eggs can withstand
:25:00. > :25:04.extreme weather conditions and even lie dormant in the mud for over ten
:25:04. > :25:12.years, waiting for the conditions to be just right.
:25:12. > :25:16.This has a -- as a species makes them pretty bombproof. It does look
:25:16. > :25:25.prehistoric. Larry has been able to learn more about the specialised
:25:25. > :25:29.existence that they lead using tive populations -- captive populations.
:25:29. > :25:34.These are a week to ten days old, very small really. They're amazing
:25:34. > :25:38.to watch. Larry is also hoping to find undiscovered triops
:25:38. > :25:42.populations in other parts of the UK. We want to try and establish,
:25:42. > :25:45.get to the bottom of whether they are more prevalent across the
:25:45. > :25:48.country, whether they've a wider distribution than we are currently
:25:48. > :25:52.seeing at these two points 400 miles apart, basically. You are
:25:52. > :25:56.hoping it isn't simply a site in Scotland and a site in Hampshire,
:25:56. > :26:00.that there are little sites all over England and Wales? That's it,
:26:00. > :26:03.yes. We would like to get a firm hand on whether there really are a
:26:03. > :26:08.few more populations that haven't been found yet T would be ease
:26:08. > :26:12.tkwroeu overlook them, it really would. So the next time you are out
:26:12. > :26:16.walking in a field that looks like this, keep your eyes peeled in the
:26:17. > :26:22.puddles and pools because you might have walked past the UK's only
:26:22. > :26:28.living fossil. 200 million years old. It's
:26:28. > :26:36.incredible. George is here with some more living creatures with
:26:36. > :26:39.prehistoric origins. And we are calling it this.
:26:39. > :26:45.I am not afraid of them. I wouldn't be screaming normally. The first
:26:45. > :26:53.one has a scary name. It's the vampire squid. It isn't the vampire
:26:53. > :26:58.and a squid, it's in the same group of octopus. It has this amazing
:26:58. > :27:03.cloak it can draw over itself which is black and hide itself from
:27:03. > :27:09.enemies. That's an ancient animal. The next one is this amazing animal,
:27:09. > :27:13.the horseshoe crab. Now it is probably unchanged in shape and
:27:13. > :27:18.function for 300 million years. They would have looked like this.
:27:18. > :27:23.There are now four species on earth and this one comes from the eastern
:27:23. > :27:28.seaboard of the US and it's now under threat because they're hunted
:27:28. > :27:32.for fish bait. Actually they're harmless. You found that one.
:27:32. > :27:37.found this on the shore in New Jersey. They've been around 300
:27:37. > :27:41.million years and now humans are... Under threat from us. The last one
:27:41. > :27:46.is a very interesting shrimp. It has eyes that are ten times more
:27:46. > :27:50.acute than ours. They're able to see ten times more of the spectrum
:27:50. > :27:56.than we can and they hunt prey, here is sa crab hidden under a
:27:57. > :28:01.glass, and they smash with these front legs that have the same
:28:01. > :28:08.energy as a shell of a gun and that's been virtually unchanged for
:28:08. > :28:18.about 350 million years. It's amazing they can smash glass.
:28:18. > :28:21.
:28:21. > :28:26.That's like body armour. It is, in fact, it could be, like a cycling
:28:26. > :28:31.helmet. Or a clock. We have had an e-mail from the Wombles, they can't
:28:31. > :28:35.believe you gave them a Turkey, gutted! Thank you, George. You can
:28:35. > :28:42.see George on BBC4 this evening at 9.00pm in Afterlife. What's that
:28:42. > :28:47.about? The strange signs of decay. Don't miss it. That's all we have
:28:47. > :28:52.time for tonight. Lovely having you here, Carole and good luck with A